WEBVTT - 5. So Close

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>During the time my Terse was missing, a search party

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<v Speaker 2>organized by doctor Ronda Hampton discovered a mural in a

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<v Speaker 2>culvert high above Montanito on the cement around two large tunnels.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone had painted a series of naked black women in

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<v Speaker 2>various degrading and bizarre poses. This is doctor Hampton describing

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<v Speaker 2>the scene in a video made by documentarian Chip Croft.

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<v Speaker 3>This culvert area here is where there was the images

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<v Speaker 3>that were taken by the searchers of approximately thirteen African

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<v Speaker 3>American women with afros who were nude in very thick,

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<v Speaker 3>sexually provocative positions.

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<v Speaker 2>One was hula hooping, one was spread eagle, one was

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<v Speaker 2>doing a handspring, one was climbing out of a vagina.

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<v Speaker 2>Another was in a wheelchair giving a thumbs up. At

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<v Speaker 2>the center, there was a man's face with crazed eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and a mop of curly red hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Along the concrete here were wordings indicating entering afro Land

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<v Speaker 3>or something similar to that. Over the side here it

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<v Speaker 3>said afro hose h o e s so afro hose.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some other writings on.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the figures really caught doctor Hampton's eye.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the images was of a woman who was

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<v Speaker 3>painted blue, kneeling on all fours on our Botox area.

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<v Speaker 3>She had a simple the letters L A, and she

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<v Speaker 3>had a marijuana joint out of her mouth. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>makes us think that it's possibly that the person's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about my trees in terms of the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that she was from LA, that she was accused of

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<v Speaker 3>having marijuana.

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<v Speaker 2>To my Teresa's friends and family, this mural was tantamount

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<v Speaker 2>to a confession, a narrative depiction of her abduction, rape,

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<v Speaker 2>torture and murder. According to my Teresa's mother, Latiste Sutton.

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<v Speaker 2>There was even a forensic psychologist who wrote up a

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<v Speaker 2>report about it unsolicited, saying it was a quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>sick trophy, the killer's calling card. But the day after

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<v Speaker 2>it was discovered, when doctor Hampton went to see it

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<v Speaker 2>for herself, it was already gone. She found that suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Here she is again at the scene this immage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday was painted with the mural, which is what we're

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<v Speaker 3>calling it, and here today the city has quickly come

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<v Speaker 3>by and painted it over.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing to see but a swath of babs paint,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind used by the Graffiti Task Force. Law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>questioned the artist. It turned out he didn't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about my trees. This was just his thing, painting naked

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<v Speaker 2>black women with afros in sexually explicit positions. He sent

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Hampton an email telling her he was sorry for

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<v Speaker 2>her loss. I knew the mural didn't have a direct

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<v Speaker 2>connection to my trees, but still it was so unbelievably

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<v Speaker 2>eerie and compelling, like a real of found footage explaining

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<v Speaker 2>the total mystery of what had happened to my trees.

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<v Speaker 2>So Haley and I figured we should see the spot

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<v Speaker 2>and understand its proximity to the neighborhood and to Dark Canyon,

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<v Speaker 2>where my Teres's remains were found. We met in Montanito

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<v Speaker 2>and drove way up into the mountains. We parked on

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<v Speaker 2>a narrow shoulder and got out. The covert ran underneath

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<v Speaker 2>the road, so it wasn't visible till you went down

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<v Speaker 2>below start level. I think we were expecting to see

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<v Speaker 2>the beige government paint. We were seriously surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's some weird graffiti here right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not look like a it's like a similar style.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I just got all the hairs on

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<v Speaker 4>my arms.

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<v Speaker 2>Set up on the main panel above the culverts tunnels.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone had painted a new mural. It was nowhere near

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<v Speaker 2>as elaborate as the original, but it did seem to

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<v Speaker 2>share some basic DNA, Like that caricature over on the

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<v Speaker 2>left looks similar to the and the yellow one too.

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<v Speaker 3>The green one, well, that's creepy as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I poked my head into one of the tunnels.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do I not want to go in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then over on the right, I noticed something really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this help.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same like creepy orange chair. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>face outlined in orange with curly orange chair and crazy

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<v Speaker 2>eyes next to the word help. Then there's another face,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looks like there might be like a marijuana

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<v Speaker 2>leaf in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 5>What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go home?

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<v Speaker 2>The original mural turned out to be a red herring,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was just a copycat. So why did I

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<v Speaker 2>feel a mounting sense of dread? I think it's because

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<v Speaker 2>I was starting to see how easy it is to

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<v Speaker 2>get turned around in these mountains, to be misled by

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<v Speaker 2>seeming clues that don't solve anything. And I'm guessing that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much what my Teresa's friends and family were feeling

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<v Speaker 2>when the first mural was discovered and debunked. They still

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what had happened to my Trees. They were

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<v Speaker 2>desperate to find her or find out, but they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>distinguish what might be crucial information that could lead them

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<v Speaker 2>to an answer from what was spinning them blindfolded in circles.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dana Goodyear and this is Lost Hills, episode five,

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<v Speaker 2>So close. Throughout the fall of two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa's case was all over the news, and the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on the Sheriff's department to explain their decision to release

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<v Speaker 2>her without a safe ride home was intense. Here's a

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<v Speaker 2>report from NBCLA.

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<v Speaker 6>Among all the swirling questions in this case, one thing

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<v Speaker 6>is certain. My Terce Richardson was lasting leaving this substation

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<v Speaker 6>a week ago.

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<v Speaker 7>She was not intoxicated, she was not disoriented. The La

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<v Speaker 7>County Sheriff's Department did not only everything procedurally correct, but

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<v Speaker 7>was morally right.

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<v Speaker 6>The Sheriff's department says they'll launched another expansive search, a

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<v Speaker 6>hunt for clues as authorities try to figure out how

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<v Speaker 6>a beautiful young woman could simply vanish into the night

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<v Speaker 6>outside a sheriff's station.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sheriff's Department had arrested and released my Terse on

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<v Speaker 2>the assumption that she was not gravely disabled or a

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<v Speaker 2>danger to herself or others. Now that she was missing,

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<v Speaker 2>they were at pains to explain why, if she was

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly fine, she had not returned to her family. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a recording that documentarian Chip Croft made of a

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<v Speaker 2>press conference outside Lost Hills station three weeks after my

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa's disappearance.

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<v Speaker 7>Steve Whitmore, Sheriff's department spokesman. Now, the important thing that

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<v Speaker 7>I want to say, and I've said since the beginning,

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<v Speaker 7>is we want to find my Terce Richardson. That's all

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<v Speaker 7>we want to do. We want to find her.

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<v Speaker 2>At the station, he said, my Teres gave no indication

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<v Speaker 2>of needing psychiatric help.

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<v Speaker 7>She exhibited no signs of incapacitation whatsoever, no mental challenges,

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<v Speaker 7>not she was not under the influence. We gave her

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<v Speaker 7>an extensive field sobriety test, where the eyes are checked,

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<v Speaker 7>where the pulse is checked, where this language is checked,

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<v Speaker 7>where a person's physical abilities are checked.

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<v Speaker 2>The jailer, he said, had offered my Teresa bed in

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<v Speaker 2>an unlocked cell and also told her she was free

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<v Speaker 2>to wait in the lobby for a ride.

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<v Speaker 7>And when she came here, the jailer was an African

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<v Speaker 7>American jailer, by the way, a woman who had been

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<v Speaker 7>a jailer for fourteen years with the La County Sheriff's Department.

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<v Speaker 7>Talked to a great length visited where they talked about music. Jazz,

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<v Speaker 7>she liked, gospel, she didn't. There was a lucid conversation

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<v Speaker 7>that jailer said, why don't you stay?

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<v Speaker 2>A quick aside, A very senior member of the Detective Division,

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<v Speaker 2>now retired, told me that one of the Sheriff's Department's

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<v Speaker 2>biggest mistakes in the whole my Terce Richardson episode, was

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<v Speaker 2>that they didn't ask the Lost Hills jailer, Sharon Cummings,

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<v Speaker 2>a black woman, to explain to the public why she'd

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<v Speaker 2>been released. I wondered what Cummings would have said. She's

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<v Speaker 2>also retired now, so I called her. The minute I

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<v Speaker 2>said my Terce Richardson, she hung up the phone. At

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<v Speaker 2>the press conference, Steve Whitmore, the Sheriff's department spokesman, continued

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<v Speaker 2>to defend the decision to let my teres leave.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a twenty four year old adult who is

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<v Speaker 7>fully coggon, sent of her surroundings, and coherent to said extent.

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<v Speaker 7>If we hold them against their will, it's called overt detention.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't do that in America.

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<v Speaker 2>But reporters pressed, didn't the lost Hill's deputies have some

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility to help her? Shouldn't she have been driven back

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<v Speaker 2>to her.

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<v Speaker 7>Car if she had asked?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure?

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<v Speaker 7>But let me that's an interesting question. We did that before.

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<v Speaker 7>We've been asked to do that, and we've done it,

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<v Speaker 7>and then we've been disciplined for doing it back exactly. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>we've been people. If if it's late at night, if

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<v Speaker 7>the situation warns it, not only a malleable, but any station,

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<v Speaker 7>there's some especially in some stations where like Century, where

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<v Speaker 7>there may be some danger. And I mean real danger.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean you know, real danger. Now that doesn't say

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<v Speaker 7>there's no danger here.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense the Sheriff's department didn't want to dwell

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<v Speaker 2>on my Teresa's mental state. It might expose them to liability.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon.

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<v Speaker 2>My Teresa's family sue the county for negligence, intentional infliction

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<v Speaker 2>of emotional distress, and wrongful death. That claim ended in

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<v Speaker 2>a nine hundred thousand dollars settlement for the family, but

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<v Speaker 2>for the LAPD, the lead agency tasked with finding her.

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<v Speaker 2>My Teresa's mental health was becoming an important investigative angle.

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<v Speaker 2>Not long after my Teresa's disappearance, detectives reached out to

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<v Speaker 2>Hannah Parks, the woman she'd fallen for in the summer

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<v Speaker 2>of two thousand and nine. She knew my Terse was

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<v Speaker 2>missing and was waiting anxiously for her to get in touch.

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<v Speaker 5>In the back of my mind, I kept thinking, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>she'll pop up, Like I thought, maybe she would just

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<v Speaker 5>come to my house. I was waiting for her to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like reach out. I thought it was weird

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<v Speaker 5>that she wasn't texting or calling, but then of course

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<v Speaker 5>she didn't have her phone. But for me, in the

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<v Speaker 5>back of my mind, of course, I was concerned because

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<v Speaker 5>I knew the mental states she was in. But I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, she'll come over, Like she'll she'll pop up.

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<v Speaker 2>She was startled to get a call from LAPD Robbery Homicide.

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<v Speaker 5>They said, hey, we need to meet with you about

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<v Speaker 5>the disappearance of my Terce Richardson, and we're on our

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<v Speaker 5>way right now, and I'm like, I'm at work, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, we don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Hannah called her mom and together they went to meet

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<v Speaker 2>the detectives at a Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 5>They just asked me a bunch of questions about how

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<v Speaker 5>I knew her, our relationship, things like that, and I

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<v Speaker 5>asked them why why la homicide? Like why homicide? Because

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<v Speaker 5>she's just missing, right, so shouldn't this be like missing persons?

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<v Speaker 2>At first, Hannah felt like she might be a suspect.

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<v Speaker 5>Then once they started talking to me more, I think

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<v Speaker 5>they very quickly reed like I wasn't I didn't have

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<v Speaker 5>anything to do with it. Then they started trying to

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<v Speaker 5>just get more information out of me regarding my trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, the detectives asked Hannah if they could look around

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<v Speaker 2>her home.

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<v Speaker 5>They ended up following me back to my apartment, and

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<v Speaker 5>I gave them like everything I had of my terces.

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<v Speaker 5>So there was a couple journals, some clothes, and just

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<v Speaker 5>a few little things like I didn't have that much,

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<v Speaker 5>but I gave them everything of hers that was at

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<v Speaker 5>the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives also searched my Teresa's car at the tow yard

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<v Speaker 2>in Malibu and recovered a black purse containing several more journals.

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<v Speaker 2>According to her father, They also found her wallet underneath

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<v Speaker 2>the seat. It contained a bank card connected to an

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<v Speaker 2>account with plenty of money in it. The journals were

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<v Speaker 2>handed over to Detective Chuck Knowles, one of the LAPD

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<v Speaker 2>robbery homicide detectives who'd been assigned to take over what

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<v Speaker 2>was still officially a missing person's case. Knowles had the

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<v Speaker 2>journals analyzed by an LAPD psychologist who saw indications of

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<v Speaker 2>severe bipolar disorder from my Teresa's phone records. They determined

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<v Speaker 2>that she had not slept for five days by the

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<v Speaker 2>time she arrived at Jeoffrey's. Knowles now understood how acute

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<v Speaker 2>my Teresa's mental illness was at the time of her disappearance.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the very recognition her friends and family had

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<v Speaker 2>hoped for to add urgency to the search, but it

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<v Speaker 2>had an unintended effect, because now the LAPD appeared to

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<v Speaker 2>view her illness and erratic behavior as a likely explanation

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<v Speaker 2>for the fact that she couldn't be found. My Teres

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<v Speaker 2>might have committed suicide or succumbed to the elements, or,

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<v Speaker 2>as Detective Knowles told the La Times, she could have

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<v Speaker 2>quote gotten herself into a comfortable relationship outside of her

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<v Speaker 2>immediate friends and family. In other words. The cops were

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<v Speaker 2>implying my Teres had made herself disappear. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>central mysteries of my Teresa's case is how she got

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<v Speaker 2>from Lost Hill Station to Montanito, six miles in the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement checked with local taxi companies. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>record of her leaving Lost Hill Station. She would have,

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<v Speaker 2>in all likelihood walked east on a Gurra road. In

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<v Speaker 2>about a mile. She would have hit Las Virgines Road

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<v Speaker 2>to the left, past the McDonald's and a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>gas stations. Is the one O one freeway.

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<v Speaker 1>To the right.

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<v Speaker 2>The road takes you through Malibu Canyon to Montanito. If

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<v Speaker 2>you keep going you hit Pacific Coast Highway and the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>Was she trying to get back to her car? And

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<v Speaker 2>had she really gone all that way on foot? As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as my Trees went missing, her inner circle began

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<v Speaker 2>demanding documentation of her arrest and detention. More than anything,

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to see the video footage of my Trees

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<v Speaker 2>leaving Lost Hill Station. They wanted to see which way

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<v Speaker 2>she walked, or if someone who had yet to come

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<v Speaker 2>forward had picked her up. They were hoping for a clue,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were told there was no videotape, at least

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they were told at first.

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<v Speaker 3>That story changes. So originally okay, So originally we were

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<v Speaker 3>told there were no front.

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<v Speaker 2>Cameras, Doctor ron Dehampton.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, every weekend, we were doing a search somewhere in

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<v Speaker 3>some way, right, and so we kept coming back to

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<v Speaker 3>how do we know that we're going in the right directions?

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<v Speaker 3>So we were asking about the video so that we

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<v Speaker 3>can see which way she walked when she out the

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<v Speaker 3>front door. And then they just denied that there was

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<v Speaker 3>ever the existence of a video.

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<v Speaker 2>When they presented the Sheriff's Department with a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>the camera at the front of Lost Hill Station, the

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<v Speaker 2>story shifted.

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<v Speaker 3>We were told, oh, there are cameras, but it's recorded over.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the story shifted again.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next one was it's live and so

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<v Speaker 3>we don't record that.

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<v Speaker 2>All three of those, the evolving answer did nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>satisfy my Teresa's friends and family and did everything to

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<v Speaker 2>convince them that the Sheriff's Department was hiding information to

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<v Speaker 2>throw them off on purpose. Eventually, doctor Hampton says she

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<v Speaker 2>asked about the video in a meeting with Tom Martin,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the captain at Lost Hills Station when my

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<v Speaker 2>Terse went missing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Tom Martin admitted at that point that he

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<v Speaker 3>had the video, that he had had it, and that

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<v Speaker 3>it was in his desk.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a video, and this whole time it

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<v Speaker 2>was at the station, in the captain's desk.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we were. It was pretty heated because it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, wait, you lied all this time and said

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<v Speaker 3>that there wasn't a video, you know, like, why would

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<v Speaker 3>you hide it? He never answered that question.

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<v Speaker 2>The impression that the Sheriff's Department was lying only deepened

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<v Speaker 2>when my Teresa's friends and family actually got to see

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<v Speaker 2>the video. It was screened for them with a homicide

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<v Speaker 2>detective named Lieutenant Mike Rawson who was assisting on the case.

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<v Speaker 2>It showed my Teres inside Lost Hill Station, and, contrary

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<v Speaker 2>to what the Sheriff's spokesman had claimed, she did seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be acting erratic.

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<v Speaker 3>From what I recall seeing on the video. She's placed

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<v Speaker 3>in the cell with another woman, and she interacts with

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<v Speaker 3>that woman a bit, and she's pacing back and forth,

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<v Speaker 3>and eventually the woman leaves, and so she's there by herself,

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<v Speaker 3>and she goes up to the phone. She picks up

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<v Speaker 3>the phone several times. She picks up the phone, puts

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<v Speaker 3>it down, picks it up, puts it down. She starts

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<v Speaker 3>swinging on the side of so like the door and

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<v Speaker 3>the jail has like a bar on it kind of,

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<v Speaker 3>and so she starts swinging. You know how kids you'll

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<v Speaker 3>see them kind of doing it in like when they're

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<v Speaker 3>in a crib. It's kind of doing that. And then

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<v Speaker 3>my teres is kind of sitting or laying like in

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<v Speaker 3>fetal position on this like concrete bench.

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<v Speaker 2>When it got to the part of the video where

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<v Speaker 2>My Rise was about to be released, doctor Hampton watched attentively.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the moment she'd been most focused on where

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<v Speaker 2>she might get to see which way my terse went

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<v Speaker 2>or if someone had picked her up.

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<v Speaker 3>They're collecting her and say they gave her this, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a clear baggie, right, and it has like

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<v Speaker 3>her belt in and her hat's in it. There's some

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<v Speaker 3>other paperwork in there, and then she's putting on her

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<v Speaker 3>putting on her items, and then they walk her out.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon comings, the jailer walks her out of the side door,

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<v Speaker 3>and so when she opens that door, it's pitch dark,

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<v Speaker 3>so that when they both exit together. After that, all

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<v Speaker 3>you see is darkness and then the screen goes black.

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<v Speaker 3>Right at that point when the screen went black, we

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thought the video was over.

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<v Speaker 2>But the tape was still rolling showing the darkened exterior

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<v Speaker 2>of the station.

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<v Speaker 3>So the guy who was showing us the film, I

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting to his right, and so even though the

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<v Speaker 3>screen was black, he looks over at me and he

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<v Speaker 3>like nods his head like he's trying to get me

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<v Speaker 3>to look at something, so I, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of look up. And then Jonathan also looked up

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<v Speaker 3>my Teresa's cousin and he says, who's that because even

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<v Speaker 3>though the screen was black at some point, So two

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<v Speaker 3>minutes pass, but Sharon Cummins comes back and opens her door,

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<v Speaker 3>and then at the same time, the deputy a deputy leaves.

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<v Speaker 3>Like as soon as that door shut, the deputy leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>They hadn't known that a deputy had left the station

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<v Speaker 2>shortly after my trees. It seemed like the answer they'd

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<v Speaker 2>been looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>So they were like, wait a minute, who was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Who was leaving? I can tell that Lieutenant Rawson was

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<v Speaker 3>very surprised that that there was more footage on that video.

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<v Speaker 3>Because his face turned absolutely beat red.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sheriff's Department claims that all the deputies working that

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<v Speaker 2>night were accounted for, and a report from the Office

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<v Speaker 2>of Independent Review, a civilian oversight group, concluded that deputies

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<v Speaker 2>had acted lawfully in my Trees's arrest and release. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, many people have speculated that a deputy

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<v Speaker 2>from Lost Hills might have picked up my Teres, assaulted her,

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<v Speaker 2>killed her, and dumped her body, or that a deputy

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<v Speaker 2>may have picked her up and assaulted her, causing her

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<v Speaker 2>to flee into Montanito, where she died. There is no

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<v Speaker 2>evidence to support either scenario, but it doesn't seem to matter.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sheriff's Department's consistent impulse to shield themselves from blame

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<v Speaker 2>made everything they did look like a cover up. Here's Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>my Teresa's dad. This is from the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>met him almost five years ago, at an event being

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<v Speaker 2>held on the ten year anniversary of my Teresa's disappearance.

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<v Speaker 2>He was firm in his belief that my Teresa's death

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<v Speaker 2>was an inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Job, so it was a cover up.

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<v Speaker 8>From the time my Terce was released all the way

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<v Speaker 8>up and still to now to this day, is still

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<v Speaker 8>a cover up, and even though you know, let's say,

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<v Speaker 8>how can you one hundred percent surely say it was

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<v Speaker 8>a sheriff that did so to my trees? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 8>very easy at this point in time. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 8>lie about something that I didn't do. If I didn't

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<v Speaker 8>do it, here's all the information. And ironically, the same

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<v Speaker 8>thing that the shares expect for you to do as

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<v Speaker 8>a witness. If you don't do it, you get arrested

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<v Speaker 8>for it. So like saying, withholding evidence such as the

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<v Speaker 8>tape of a crime, guess who's going to jail the

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<v Speaker 8>person withholding And none of them went at jail.

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<v Speaker 2>With the help of doctor Hampton, Mitteresa's family asked then

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<v Speaker 2>California Attorney General Kamala Harris to open a criminal investigation

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<v Speaker 2>into the conduct of sheriff's deputies, including Captain Tom Martin,

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<v Speaker 2>for his possession of the videotape. In a twenty sixteen report,

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<v Speaker 2>Harris's office found, quote, it is entirely doubtful that Martin

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<v Speaker 2>can be successfully prosecuted for concealment of evidence. The tape

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<v Speaker 2>was preserved and its contents eventually produced. In the course

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<v Speaker 2>of our reporting, we heard of two more irregularities from

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<v Speaker 2>very different ends of the spectrum regarding deputies and my

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<v Speaker 2>Trees at the time of her release. The first was

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<v Speaker 2>from Chermaine Henderson, my Terce's cellmate at Lost Hills. She

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<v Speaker 2>said she was uncomfortable with the way my Trese was released,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they were no longer in the same cell.

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<v Speaker 2>She could tell that my Teres was leaving the station

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<v Speaker 2>without a ride after midnight. That seemed wrong to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they sighted her out.

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<v Speaker 9>But when you cite someone out, you still don't let

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<v Speaker 9>them leave, and so they have a way to get somewhere.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, they can call a calf on their own,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, something like that, you know, because it's in

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<v Speaker 9>the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But what she heard next actually gave her the creeps.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was hearing like they were saying they would

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<v Speaker 1>drop her off.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the deputies, she said, offered to give my

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<v Speaker 2>Terse a ride.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, one of deputies. That was a male deputy.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think that was weird or inappropriate that he

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<v Speaker 2>had offered to give her a ride?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I think it was.

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<v Speaker 9>When you release your release and you're gone, it is

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<v Speaker 9>like they won't cares that you arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, you released that rise. That's not the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it with a grain of salt, because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a snippet of a story from someone whose memory is,

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<v Speaker 2>by her own admission, unreliable, and I have seen no

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<v Speaker 2>documentation to support it. The second thing we heard about

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<v Speaker 2>my trees and cops and cars came from a very

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<v Speaker 2>different source. Doctor Lisa Shyman, the forensic pathologist who conducted

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<v Speaker 2>the autopsy. She worked closely with law enforcement as part

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<v Speaker 2>of her job. She was sympathetic to the bind that

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<v Speaker 2>the deputies were in when they believed they were legally

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<v Speaker 2>obligated to release my trees, and she wanted to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were very nervous about letting her go because

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<v Speaker 2>they knew she had nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was dark out, and they knew it was remote.

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<v Speaker 4>But if she said no, they couldn't force her to stay,

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<v Speaker 4>so they had to let her go.

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<v Speaker 2>She vaguely recalls hearing that deputies were so concerned that

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<v Speaker 2>they decided to go out of their way for her.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe somebody said they actually followed her after she

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<v Speaker 4>left a bit from a distance with a car, just

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<v Speaker 4>to see that she was okay, And eventually they veered off,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were actually quite concerned about her.

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<v Speaker 2>If any of this is true, then all of these

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<v Speaker 2>deputies and anyone they spoke to about it conspired to

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<v Speaker 2>stay silent when the disappearance of My Trees became a

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<v Speaker 2>nationwide scandal, and no one from law enforcement has ever

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<v Speaker 2>come forward with any information about this. Intriguing as these

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<v Speaker 2>fragments are, they don't lead anywhere, and they detract from

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<v Speaker 2>what I think is the deeper truth. Had My Trees

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<v Speaker 2>been given a ride from the station, she would likely

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<v Speaker 2>still be alive. In January twenty ten, when My Trees

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<v Speaker 2>had been missing for four months, authorities launched one of

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<v Speaker 2>the largest searches in Los Angeles history. There were more

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<v Speaker 2>than three hundred people, more than sixty horses, dogs, ATVs, bikes,

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<v Speaker 2>and air support. They searched from Calabasas to Pacific Coast Highway,

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<v Speaker 2>including all throughout Malibu Creek State Park and the Backbone Trail.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Sergeant twey Wright of Malibu Search and Rescue.

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<v Speaker 10>I can tell you that it was a huge undertaking

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<v Speaker 10>and it was pretty much unprecedented. I've never done a

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<v Speaker 10>search with four hundred personnel before that or since then.

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<v Speaker 2>By now, investigators had a clear understanding of my Teresa's

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<v Speaker 2>mental state. They focused the January search on the area's

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<v Speaker 2>below cliffs and dams and rock faces, thinking that my Trees,

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<v Speaker 2>in her distress, might have jumped. Law enforcement had pledged

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<v Speaker 2>to search every inch of the area, and there were

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<v Speaker 2>trails near the Smith's house where my Trees was last seen,

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<v Speaker 2>connecting to Dark Canyon, the treacherous steep, poison oak infested

0:28:42.916 --> 0:28:48.196
<v Speaker 2>canyon that yawns above Montanito. It seemed unlikely that someone

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to get back to her car would have

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<v Speaker 2>gone in there, but maybe a person in the midst

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<v Speaker 2>of a bipolar episode would, maybe a suicidal person would.

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<v Speaker 2>Sergeant Wright ordered it to be searched. Back in the

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<v Speaker 2>early two thousands, when Sergeant Wright was a narcotics detective,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd learned about an illegal marijuana growing operation in Dark Canyon.

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<v Speaker 10>So having that in the back of my mind when

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<v Speaker 10>we're doing the matri search, I wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 10>what we call a sworn team in other words, an

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<v Speaker 10>armed team with armed peace officers, was that it was

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<v Speaker 10>a sign to search Dark Canyon.

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<v Speaker 2>They were carrying some rudimentary GPS devices partly reliant on

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<v Speaker 2>cell service. They were supposed to be able to track

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<v Speaker 2>where each deputy had walked. The cell service in Montanito

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<v Speaker 2>is spotty even today. Back then it was very limited,

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<v Speaker 2>and in Dark Canyon it was pretty much non existent.

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<v Speaker 10>They didn't work. We had no way of telling exactly

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<v Speaker 10>how far searchers went up Dark Canyon.

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<v Speaker 2>He also tried using drones, a new technology at the time.

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<v Speaker 10>It was from a experimental drone. The program was out

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<v Speaker 10>of I believe it was Sand Diego University down there.

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<v Speaker 10>I would call this drone pretty rudimentary by today's standards.

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<v Speaker 10>And what I mean by that it was a sort

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<v Speaker 10>of what I would call a bat wing drone. You

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<v Speaker 10>had to turn it on and throw it and it

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<v Speaker 10>would take flight.

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<v Speaker 2>They searched the bottom of Dark Canyon, but didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>very far. The operators were afraid of losing their drone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's these searches of Dark Canyon that fill Sergeant right

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<v Speaker 2>with regret to this day. Knowing what he knows now,

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<v Speaker 2>he told me he would have pushed the team to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on Dark Canyon from the beginning and search its

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<v Speaker 2>full extent.

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<v Speaker 10>It was so obvious in hindsight, it was one of

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<v Speaker 10>the darkest deepest canyons right there, and in hindsight, obviously

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<v Speaker 10>we didn't go deep enough soon enough. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 10>was so Closegeant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been retired since twenty nineteen, but the Mitrice Richardson

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<v Speaker 2>case has continued to bother him. He wishes, of course,

0:31:17.436 --> 0:31:20.596
<v Speaker 2>he'd found her alive, or even found her body sooner,

0:31:20.796 --> 0:31:23.596
<v Speaker 2>when her remains could have told a more complete story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think all of that is why he decided

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<v Speaker 2>to do something no one else in law enforcement has

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<v Speaker 2>been willing to do. Help us figure out what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to her, But that came a little later. At first,

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<v Speaker 2>he just helped us understand what it had been like

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<v Speaker 2>when my rise was missing. As the months passed, it

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<v Speaker 2>was clear to authorities they were no longer searching for

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<v Speaker 2>a lost person. They were searching for remains, possibly a skeleton.

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<v Speaker 2>Finding bones is actually fairly common in Malibu because of

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<v Speaker 2>all the wildlife. Here's Sergeant right.

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<v Speaker 10>People see bones when they're hiking on trails, and they

0:32:04.996 --> 0:32:07.076
<v Speaker 10>also see him on the side of the road. The

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<v Speaker 10>Ticku Lilean turnouts. We might have an area where you

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<v Speaker 10>could park a car and maybe look over at a

0:32:12.516 --> 0:32:16.236
<v Speaker 10>beautiful view of the ocean or something. People are standing

0:32:16.236 --> 0:32:19.396
<v Speaker 10>there and then they see bones and or they smell

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<v Speaker 10>a dead smell.

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<v Speaker 2>But everyone in Malibu was on high alert, and so

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<v Speaker 2>were the authorities. They were looking for a high profile

0:32:28.316 --> 0:32:31.796
<v Speaker 2>missing person. Those bones could be hers.

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<v Speaker 10>During the time of the Matrese investigation, we never ignored

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<v Speaker 10>any of those. We went out on each and everyone,

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<v Speaker 10>and we were thorough and would investigate. And I do

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<v Speaker 10>recall some of those where people reported the smell of

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<v Speaker 10>something dead. I remember when we sent a team out

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<v Speaker 10>and they went out and they looked, and they smelled something,

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<v Speaker 10>and they looked and they basically found the remains of

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<v Speaker 10>a dead coyote.

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<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement records show that on June tenth and twelfth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ten, two months before my Teresa's remains were found,

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<v Speaker 2>Malibu Search and Rescue conducted two operations in response to

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<v Speaker 2>reports of bones in the area.

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<v Speaker 10>I do recall a tip came into the Detective Bureau

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<v Speaker 10>and there was some talk of a rib cage was

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<v Speaker 10>observed by somebody who was at a particular location off

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<v Speaker 10>of Payuma where they described a fort like a tree fort.

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<v Speaker 2>Sergeant Wright assembled a team, including his tracker and a

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<v Speaker 2>cadaver dog.

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<v Speaker 10>We went out there and a couple of different vehicles.

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<v Speaker 10>We took at least one rifle with us, and maybe

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<v Speaker 10>even a shotgun because it sounded suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>The location was in the wilderness off Payuma Road, about

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<v Speaker 2>a mile up the mountain from the smith's house in Montenito,

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<v Speaker 2>close to the Backbone.

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<v Speaker 10>Trail, and we went in and eventually we found what

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<v Speaker 10>could be described as a fort or in the marijuana

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<v Speaker 10>investigation days, we would call it a hooch, which is

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<v Speaker 10>a term basically from Vietnam of a tent type outpost

0:34:21.356 --> 0:34:27.876
<v Speaker 10>in thick jungle. So that's what we found. We spread

0:34:27.916 --> 0:34:30.716
<v Speaker 10>out and approached it, and I could see that it

0:34:30.756 --> 0:34:36.116
<v Speaker 10>was made from camouflage tarps that had wrapped around several trees,

0:34:36.876 --> 0:34:40.076
<v Speaker 10>including a real big tree, and it had a roof,

0:34:40.196 --> 0:34:44.156
<v Speaker 10>and it had a doorway area, and we went in

0:34:44.396 --> 0:34:50.356
<v Speaker 10>and clearly on public land, we went in and cleared it,

0:34:50.996 --> 0:34:55.716
<v Speaker 10>and there was nobody inside. Inside was sort of a

0:34:55.716 --> 0:34:59.356
<v Speaker 10>bed area where you could tell somebody could sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone was definitely living there.

0:35:03.516 --> 0:35:08.956
<v Speaker 10>And I do recall one book in particular, it was

0:35:08.996 --> 0:35:13.116
<v Speaker 10>a the US Army Survival Manual. I saw that in there.

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<v Speaker 10>I saw on the outside of the outside the fort

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<v Speaker 10>there was some cubes called grow dan cubes that were

0:35:22.836 --> 0:35:27.716
<v Speaker 10>consistent with starting marijuana plants, and I actually saw some

0:35:27.796 --> 0:35:33.476
<v Speaker 10>marijuana growing there, like a couple inches high.

0:35:31.836 --> 0:35:34.476
<v Speaker 2>Hanging from a tree. Outside the fort, they spotted the

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<v Speaker 2>rib cage. This was the reason they were there because

0:35:38.356 --> 0:35:41.716
<v Speaker 2>the tipster had thought this rib cage might belong to

0:35:41.756 --> 0:35:42.916
<v Speaker 2>my Terce Richardson.

0:35:43.956 --> 0:35:47.716
<v Speaker 10>The ribcage was taken as evidence and submitted to the

0:35:47.756 --> 0:35:50.836
<v Speaker 10>corner to the crime LAMB. If I recall, it turned

0:35:50.876 --> 0:35:51.796
<v Speaker 10>out to be deer bones.

0:35:52.556 --> 0:35:58.636
<v Speaker 2>Deer bones, still, the fort was potentially significant. The person

0:35:58.756 --> 0:36:01.836
<v Speaker 2>living there seemed to have a funny habit of collecting

0:36:01.916 --> 0:36:04.396
<v Speaker 2>items that belonged to various women.

0:36:05.156 --> 0:36:07.716
<v Speaker 10>What I recall on it is I think it was

0:36:07.796 --> 0:36:16.956
<v Speaker 10>IDs identifications and or ATM cards for a couple of

0:36:16.996 --> 0:36:17.836
<v Speaker 10>different females.

0:36:18.836 --> 0:36:22.076
<v Speaker 2>But my Teresa's driver's license, which she had on her

0:36:22.156 --> 0:36:29.116
<v Speaker 2>when she left Lost Hill Station, was not among them,

0:36:29.356 --> 0:36:33.276
<v Speaker 2>while my trees was missing. Her dad, Michael Richardson, had

0:36:33.276 --> 0:36:37.036
<v Speaker 2>a wrenching experience. He was in Las Vegas with some friends.

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<v Speaker 8>My friend was driving. I was in the backseat and

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<v Speaker 8>I was on the window side, So when I looked

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<v Speaker 8>over to the right, I just seen a girl standing

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<v Speaker 8>at the light getting ready to walk across the street.

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<v Speaker 8>Lit looked just like my trees. And I just stopped.

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<v Speaker 8>The car stopped and they're like what what what? And

0:36:56.916 --> 0:36:58.596
<v Speaker 8>I just jump out the car and they're like, man,

0:36:58.596 --> 0:37:02.236
<v Speaker 8>where you going? And cars was stopping almost about to

0:37:02.276 --> 0:37:04.356
<v Speaker 8>hit me, and they all get out like what what?

0:37:04.716 --> 0:37:05.036
<v Speaker 8>I said?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:37:05.196 --> 0:37:07.036
<v Speaker 8>I could have sworn I just seeing my daughter standing

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<v Speaker 8>right here and we would in the alley. Did you

0:37:10.196 --> 0:37:12.716
<v Speaker 8>just see this girl like that? Nobody saw that person

0:37:13.196 --> 0:37:16.716
<v Speaker 8>that we were talking about, And I was like, I know,

0:37:16.836 --> 0:37:19.916
<v Speaker 8>I'm not tripping. I saw that, you know, and I

0:37:19.956 --> 0:37:23.876
<v Speaker 8>will still stand behind that. But this person that I

0:37:23.996 --> 0:37:28.436
<v Speaker 8>saw vanished into the thin air, and it was another

0:37:28.476 --> 0:37:28.996
<v Speaker 8>dead end.

0:37:30.156 --> 0:37:32.596
<v Speaker 2>When he got back to his hotel room, he called

0:37:32.636 --> 0:37:34.316
<v Speaker 2>the LAPD detectives.

0:37:34.916 --> 0:37:37.156
<v Speaker 8>But I called it and said, man, I think my

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<v Speaker 8>daughter in Vegas? All right, what makes you think that? Michael?

0:37:41.956 --> 0:37:46.436
<v Speaker 8>And yeah, all right, well we'll check it out and

0:37:46.636 --> 0:37:50.356
<v Speaker 8>let you know what we find. And it was like, eh,

0:37:50.476 --> 0:37:53.636
<v Speaker 8>it was a dead end, Michael. I'm like, I know,

0:37:54.236 --> 0:37:56.476
<v Speaker 8>I said, okay, Man, maybe it was just me wanting

0:37:56.476 --> 0:37:57.516
<v Speaker 8>it to be her. I don't know.

0:37:59.156 --> 0:38:02.436
<v Speaker 2>Then someone else thought they saw my terse in Las Vegas.

0:38:02.716 --> 0:38:05.236
<v Speaker 2>It was a high school friend of hers. This was

0:38:05.276 --> 0:38:09.516
<v Speaker 2>in June twenty ten. The LAPD took the sighting seatiously

0:38:10.236 --> 0:38:10.716
<v Speaker 2>and I.

0:38:10.716 --> 0:38:14.476
<v Speaker 8>Mean they all detectives and everybody set up camp and

0:38:14.516 --> 0:38:15.436
<v Speaker 8>shop down there.

0:38:17.556 --> 0:38:21.236
<v Speaker 2>But today Michael thinks this was a trap, a diversion

0:38:21.476 --> 0:38:24.516
<v Speaker 2>by law enforcement to keep him out of Malibu so

0:38:24.596 --> 0:38:28.796
<v Speaker 2>they could discover her remains.

0:38:27.596 --> 0:38:32.876
<v Speaker 8>And they were trying to get us and me falling

0:38:32.996 --> 0:38:35.796
<v Speaker 8>foid flew to Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a wild theory, fueled by frustration and mistrust and

0:38:42.316 --> 0:38:48.196
<v Speaker 2>by an unfortunate coincidence. On August ninth, twenty ten, while

0:38:48.236 --> 0:38:50.956
<v Speaker 2>Michael was in Las Vegas for a press conference about

0:38:50.996 --> 0:38:54.676
<v Speaker 2>My Trees, some park rangers checking out an old pot

0:38:54.716 --> 0:39:00.156
<v Speaker 2>grow discovered her skull among the fallen leaves. The site

0:39:00.236 --> 0:39:02.596
<v Speaker 2>was about a mile from where My treece was last

0:39:02.636 --> 0:39:06.876
<v Speaker 2>seen on the side of a steep ravine in Dark Canyon,

0:39:12.276 --> 0:39:13.996
<v Speaker 2>next time on Lost Hills.

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<v Speaker 8>So it is all unfolded like they did a botched

0:39:18.836 --> 0:39:22.276
<v Speaker 8>up job anyway, by sweeping or remains in a plastic bag,

0:39:22.716 --> 0:39:25.276
<v Speaker 8>flying it out before the corner got there to make

0:39:25.316 --> 0:39:29.756
<v Speaker 8>the call, which contaminated the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 2>That's next in episode six, Reconnaissance. Lost Hills is written

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<v Speaker 2>and hosted by Me Dana Goodyear. It was reported by

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<v Speaker 2>Me and Haley Fox, our senior producer. The show was

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<v Speaker 2>created by me and Benadere. Lost Hills is a production

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