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Speaker 1: Cobelt Radio. Today was a big day at the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court for cities and towns, especially in the western part

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Speaker 1: of the country governed by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

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Speaker 1: They had two decisions in recent years which made it

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Speaker 1: difficult for some cities and towns to clear out homeless encampments,

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Speaker 1: saying that it was a cruel and unusual punishment to

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Speaker 1: these towns and cities were able to appeal these decisions

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Speaker 1: and it went to the US Supreme Court. Hearings were

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Speaker 1: held today by the justices and to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk with Jeff Briggs. Now you may

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Speaker 1: remember Jeff Briggs, co host of the show about what

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Speaker 1: was a week and a half ago and he was

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Speaker 1: from his appearans that you know, we said, you know,

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Speaker 1: behalf of those organizations, he filed Amica's reefs with the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court on this particular case. The shorthand for the

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Speaker 1: cases is Boise and Grant's Pass Boise, Idaho, Grant's Pass, Oregon.

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Speaker 1: They're the two cities whose ordinances were taken to court.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what he thinks about today's hearing.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Briggs, Hey, John, glad to be back.

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Speaker 1: Why you're a star? I mean, I don't get the

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Speaker 2: Good Lord, well thanks, I just want you to know

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Speaker 2: I can't afford to pay for it again or I'll

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Speaker 2: have to be a chef Bruno spaghetti client myself.

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Speaker 1: So well, this will be this will be a freebie.

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Speaker 1: You can just do it. You'll work for food here,

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Speaker 1: all right, So tell tell us, give us an overview

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Speaker 1: what those ordinances did and and and why the cities

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Speaker 2: So, in a nutshell, Grant, the city of Boise, he

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Speaker 2: and the Court the Ninth Circuit said, you can't have

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Speaker 2: for every single homeless person, you can't enforce it with

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Speaker 2: And the Ninth Circuit extended the Boise case. We also

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Speaker 1: All right, so talk about the group you're with. You

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Speaker 2: Haven't haven't been alone in that. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: So obviously they're tremendously impacted by the failure of cities

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Speaker 1: So you filed briefs on their behalf with the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Right, they're called the Friends of the Court briefs, and

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Speaker 1: Okay, why don't we pause for a second now that

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Speaker 1: we've set up the whole history of this, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: I could you can log in and hear the oral argument?

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Speaker 2: You can at lifetime?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an audio stream, right yeah? Okay, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: So today's the day the Supreme Court's going to hear

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Speaker 1: the case which helped cause a lot of mayhem in

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Speaker 1: it's cruel and unusual punishment, a violation of the Eighth

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first thing I just want to say is

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Speaker 2: that predicting what the Supreme Court is going to do

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Speaker 2: oral arguments is about as accurate as putsatani phil. You know, people, uh,

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Speaker 2: But since everybody else is going to do it, I'll

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Speaker 2: They're punishing the conduct that comes along with being homelessness,

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Speaker 2: that the eighth circuit was used in advance, before anybody

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Speaker 2: they do that. Now, what's interesting about it is that

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Speaker 2: they will probably try to back that and and try

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Speaker 2: to have the court essentially punt on this. And so

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But I don't, okay, So it's been.

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Speaker 1: A punt okay. So so I mean if that happens

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Speaker 1: the way you laid it out, then then uh, cities

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Speaker 2: Be able to arrest and find them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but that but but then the the the

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Speaker 2: On an individual basis by case, which which which not

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Speaker 1: All right. Jeff Briggs. And he's an attorney, and he

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Speaker 4: The genitals of the genitals.

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Speaker 1: Of the day. I guess you know you have surgeons

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Speaker 1: What kind of award do they get? Well, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: Turns out that Quang's secretary complained more than ten years

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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, isn't it. I mean, I don't even know

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't be laughing, but of course he wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you would never be able to talk about this

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Speaker 1: Dubairas Yes, that's right, you would be.

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Speaker 1: I think they would take my head off anyway. He

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Speaker 4: You don't need to talk about it anymore.

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Speaker 1: He would. He would also comment on the fat rolls

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so but okay, I have an idea. Let's strip

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Speaker 1: This is one of those everyday stories. This is what

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Speaker 1: And by time Johansson's assistant could forward a copy, the

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Speaker 1: two American teams didn't feel safe because Johnson said, even

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Speaker 1: when the game is over. You don't know if they're

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Speaker 1: waiting for you, So even if the cops kicked them out,

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Speaker 1: it may not be over. And they decided both teams

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Speaker 1: decided this is too dangerous. Parents told them they were

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Speaker 1: rattled by the incident and they don't want to play

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Speaker 1: at the field anymore. Of course, there aren't too many

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Speaker 1: available fields in East Harlem. Field space is limited, but

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Speaker 1: the migrants won that one. Police wouldn't enforce the law.

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Speaker 1: Nobody does conways here, We've got some heavy news today, John.

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Speaker 1: I know Monday is.

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Speaker 5: Supposed to be light, but there's a shriff's deputy that's

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Speaker 5: been there's swarming a neighborhood in West Covina following a

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Speaker 5: shooting that apparently targeted a motorcycle deputy in the area,

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Speaker 5: so we'll talk about that. Also locking you out of

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Speaker 5: flint Ridge. A school is on lockdown because of a

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Speaker 5: lunatic there. So those are the two heavy stories. But

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Speaker 5: if you know it's today, there's not a lot of

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Speaker 5: people out on the road. I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: I notice that I think it's a combination of Coachella,

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Speaker 5: Jewish Holiday, and I don't know it's spring.

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Speaker 1: I don't know but there's nobody out of there, like

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Speaker 1: when you analyze the calendars. It's one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: parts of the show. But nobody's in the calendar effect trap.

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Speaker 5: Although you know, maybe it's a post four to twenty

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Speaker 5: hangover to yesterday was for twenty? How'd you celebrate four twenty?

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Speaker 5: Wasn't aware of it? You didn't take a big ripper?

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Speaker 1: I never do.

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Speaker 5: No, you didn't break out Deborah Deborah Cobelt six foot

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Speaker 5: glass bong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we do at my house, sit around

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Speaker 1: the kitchen table, sucking on bond.

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Speaker 5: You put her up on your shoulders and she gets

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Speaker 5: hits that six foot She loves that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dragonfly, what'd you get push? You think I

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Speaker 1: know this stuff? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I Eric, you know all the weeds or are a crozier?

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Speaker 5: What are some of the popular weeds? White widow cush.

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Speaker 1: So far, you're the only one who knows hard ty stick,

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Speaker 1: dime bag. Like you're doing pretty well there. Yeah, I lid.

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Speaker 1: You don't need any help from them seedless they still seedless.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is what you do all day.

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Speaker 5: Shake Mexican shake. Remember that weed when you're a kid

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Speaker 5: By dimebag of that back crap. I thought you can

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Speaker 5: get your buzzy, all right, so whatever, okay, thing, all right,

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Speaker 5: we're here.

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Speaker 1: Crozier's got the news Why twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom. Hey,

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