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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Yo, the sun don't shine forever, but as long

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Speaker 2: as it's here that we might as well shine together

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Speaker 2: better now than never? Business before pleasure be did he

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Speaker 2: and the fan who you know do it better?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right? No matter what we add tight, So when you

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Speaker 2: hear something, make sure you hear it right. To make

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Speaker 2: an ass out of yourself by assuming our music keeps

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Speaker 2: you moving?

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Speaker 4: What are you proving?

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Speaker 2: You know that two levels above you, baby hove and

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Speaker 2: you baby, I'm gonna make you love me. Baby talking

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Speaker 2: crazy ain't gonna get you nothing but choke, and that

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Speaker 2: jealousy is only gonna leave you broke. So the only

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Speaker 2: thing left now is God for these cats a big

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm too hard for these cats. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: win becus I'm too smart for these cats. While they

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Speaker 2: making up facts, were making up plaques. Hey in the

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Speaker 2: commission you as Hey, Welcome to the black Outs podcast

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Speaker 2: your house, Rod.

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Speaker 1: And Yeah out of place morns about a half some.

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Speaker 4: Keep pump, keep pounding. That's one of the best.

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Speaker 2: That might be my favorite rap like that first verse

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Speaker 2: at all time, just because of the way the beat

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Speaker 2: bills up with the horns, and then it's all just

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Speaker 2: a preamble to Bigs.

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Speaker 5: You know, And I'm like, look, God, damn now I

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Speaker 2: All right, well hold on, let me, let me go

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Speaker 2: find it. But it's all like this preamble to to

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Speaker 2: Biggs very.

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Speaker 1: And it just kind of layers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and Big was dead when it

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Speaker 2: of the last last verses from Big we were ever

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Speaker 2: gonna hear, you know, which obviously sucked, but it was like,

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Speaker 2: what an epic ass way to go out?

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Speaker 6: Is?

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Speaker 4: Uh? The verse on on? I think it was victory?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: Is that the name of let me? I don't know

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Speaker 2: why this isn't coming up. I was literally just looking

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Speaker 2: at this now. I gotta look at it for p Diddy.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, p Diddy puffed it. I don't know he

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Speaker 5: got about forty five he p did it forever for me.

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Speaker 5: I don't care what you change you names here.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 2: The video had bust rhymes in it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, before he got fat Yo.

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Speaker 8: The sun don't shine forever, but as long as it's.

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Speaker 2: Time, and we might as well shine together better now

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Speaker 2: than never business before a pleasure. He did he and

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Speaker 2: the family who you know will do it better. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: no matter what he had tight And when you hear something,

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Speaker 2: but when you hear it right, don't make an ass

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Speaker 2: out of yourself by assuming Mom, you was in cheap

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Speaker 2: I'm two loves above your baby.

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Speaker 5: Oh my baby, I'm gonna make you love me baby.

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Speaker 9: Hey, gonna get you nothing but chokes and the fellas

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Speaker 4: Black Joe Lewis and the Honeycombs. Oh wait, Honeybears.

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Speaker 1: Kill? What wrong when you can give you? Should I

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Speaker 1: Bomb in my hand, I got fund in my hand at.

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Speaker 4: Black Joe Lewis and the Honeybears is dope, man. I've

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Speaker 4: been listening to him.

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Speaker 1: It is they've been off the chain.

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Speaker 1: Don't they don't They have one called me last night?

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Speaker 8: Get up, put up, Get up, put up.

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Speaker 1: Get up.

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Speaker 2: May want to go get my best girl and go

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Speaker 2: I know what's going on over here.

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Speaker 4: Anyway. I like that, like that group.

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Speaker 2: SO and you know how I found them by accident.

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Speaker 2: I just typed in bitch into Spotify and I said,

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Speaker 2: what is this, bitch? I love you? What the cook?

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Speaker 4: What could that possibly be?

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Speaker 13: I know?

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Speaker 2: I end up liking it.

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Speaker 4: So don't be afraid to try new things, kids, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I have a question.

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Speaker 1: Is this like an old artist or this is like somebody?

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Speaker 4: It's like two thousand and nine twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: These are new albums. Tell them What your Name Is

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Speaker 1: And all their music. I keep thinking, I'm here, James.

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Speaker 4: But they do have them horns.

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Speaker 2: I love some horns.

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Speaker 2: About that time? Right here we go his wife's call

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Speaker 16: Here's ABC's Lindsay Davis.

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Speaker 17: Will Smith, known for smashing box office records, is now

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Speaker 15: It's a systematic bias that needs, a systematic bias that

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Speaker 2: Knowing how black love worked. Just because y'all, don't don't

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Speaker 15: Yeah, you was like, this is not about a couple

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Speaker 17: Smith says the all white acting nominees up for Oscars

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Speaker 17: The Academy plans to be next week to discuss what

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Speaker 2: David, thanks to you and ro Roberts tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said he probably had no idea, that's what

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Speaker 2: Did Yeah, I mean, why would he like one, Like

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Speaker 2: But it's not a real realistic depiction of marriage. My

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Speaker 4: See that's the other thing too. These are still their coworkers.

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Speaker 2: Even if even if Vola Davis was like, I'm just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we're talking about racism. Let me

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Speaker 1: YEA, And I have a question.

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Speaker 5: Where is an old chick that stood up there talking

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Speaker 2: You gotta think outside the box to think, well, this

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Speaker 2: You could. You could probably line up all the A

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Speaker 2: Now that's the problem. You can change the Academy. But

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Speaker 2: what is that vote?

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Speaker 4: What does that a vote for?

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Speaker 2: That's a valid point. You know, other people have been

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Speaker 2: what's a boycott of the Oscar gonna do? It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the topic is multi faceted. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 5: And it makes you upset because people act like you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always this assumption like, well, if you do this,

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Speaker 4: But I feel like Viola.

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Speaker 2: David speaks to what a lot of people have been saying,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with fire rocks. They reward

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Speaker 5: And it's just one of those things where it just

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Speaker 5: that's the thing that people refuse to do. It's like, yeah, yeah,

444
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Speaker 5: we can do this diversity, but I'm not giving more

445
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 5: spot of y'all can. But where I'm sitting, I refuse

446
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: to give up anything. And so you're basically saying that

447
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: you won't the status quo when you say you want diversity,

448
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 5: but you really don't want anything to change you that

449
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 5: that that that that doesn't make any sense. And the

450
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 5: thing about it is that diversity includes black people. It

451
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Speaker 5: also includes brown people because you have Latinos, you have

452
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Speaker 5: Hispanics and all other groups LGBTQ, all these other groups

453
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Speaker 5: of people who have even less people being represented than

454
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Speaker 5: black people.

455
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when they bring this up.

456
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Speaker 5: It's always centralized, I mean always centralized around black people,

457
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Speaker 5: but there are other minority groups too, And the thing is,

458
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 5: it's like once the door is open, everybody shit be

459
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Speaker 5: able to walk through, right, and that's what they don't want.

460
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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Oscar nominee, Charlotte Rampling has claimed the

461
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Speaker 2: current campaign the boycott to twenty sixteen Academy Awards overclaims

462
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Speaker 2: a diversity a diversity deficit is racist to white people.

463
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Speaker 2: By the way, claims of a diversity deficit, So as

464
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Speaker 2: far as she concerned, look forty white people are just

465
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Speaker 2: always the best option. Rambling, sixty nine, is up for

466
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Speaker 2: Best Actress Fries for her role in the British drama

467
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Speaker 2: forty five Years from director Andrew Hyge, where she will

468
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Speaker 2: compete against the Rumsbree Lars and Carroll's Kate Blanchett, George

469
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Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence and Brooklyn Sierra.

470
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Speaker 4: Ronan SoRs.

471
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Speaker 2: Ronan Okay asked for her take on the current fure

472
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Speaker 2: over a all white list of nominees on French radio

473
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Speaker 2: network You're One on Friday morning.

474
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Speaker 4: The British actor did not mince her words. It is

475
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Speaker 4: racist to whites, she said.

476
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Speaker 2: One can never really know, but perhaps the black actors

477
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Speaker 2: did not deserve to make the final list, added Rambling,

478
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Speaker 2: asking if asked if.

479
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Speaker 4: The Academy of motion pictures.

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Speaker 2: Aren't society should introduce quotas a proposal which no current

481
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Speaker 2: advocates have increased diversity hasn't muted, has Well said.

482
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Speaker 4: She responded, why classify people?

483
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Speaker 2: These days?

484
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Speaker 4: Everyone is more or less accepted.

485
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Speaker 2: People will always say him, he's less handsome, him he's

486
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: too black, he is too white. Someone will always be

487
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Speaker 2: saying you are to this or that. But do we

488
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Speaker 2: have to take from this that there should be lots

489
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Speaker 2: of minorities everywhere? When the interviewer explains that black members

490
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Speaker 2: of the film industry feel like a minority, Rampling replies,

491
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Speaker 2: no comment, bitch.

492
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Speaker 4: You should have said no comment about five questions.

493
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Speaker 1: Ago, right, because you're rambling.

494
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Speaker 5: Then somebody asks you, like a real question that that

495
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Speaker 5: actually challenges everything that just come at your mouth, and

496
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, it's no comments.

497
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Speaker 2: Rampling stance on the diniversity stands and start. Contrast to

498
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Speaker 2: the position taking by a number of fellow members at

499
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Speaker 2: the last week's announcment on the all white list of

500
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Speaker 2: the Oscar nominees and at the categories for a second year,

501
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Speaker 2: Both Larson and Mark Ruffalo, who is up for Best

502
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Speaker 2: Supporting Actors, spoke out on Thursday and supportive efforts to

503
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Speaker 2: improve opportunities for actors from the black and ethnic minority

504
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Speaker 2: communities in the film industry.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, she said that, and uh, then today she said,

506
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Speaker 4: I'm very sorry.

507
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Speaker 1: Somebody got a hold of your ass. I'm like, bitch, shit,

508
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: the fuck up?

509
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 5: You are not helping, like, like, I guarantee you. Somebody

510
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 5: got a hold of her and was like, do you

511
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Speaker 5: not realize.

512
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Speaker 1: How many angry phone calls?

513
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Speaker 5: And because it's the thing, did they go out there

514
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 5: but their staff and their people have to deal.

515
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Speaker 4: With Oh wait, I'm sorry, hold on, that wasn't her.

516
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 4: That was a different way. Okay, I'm sorry, okay, but

517
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Speaker 4: but not even her.

518
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Speaker 5: Whoever did that was done because when you have staff

519
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 5: and shit like that, people represent you, they get the

520
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: backlash of your stupidity.

521
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So the one who said she was very sorry,

522
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Speaker 2: that's different. That's uh Julie Depley, who said Adelpi who

523
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: says nothing worse than being a woman in this business

524
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: during the RAPS Interview Studio act interview at the RAPS

525
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Speaker 2: Interview Studio. Frustration of a Hollywood diversity debate bubbled over

526
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Speaker 2: it at the sun Dance Film Festival, on Friday, as

527
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Speaker 2: actress and writer Julie Delpi said she felt muzzled by

528
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Speaker 2: the industry and added, there's nothing worse to being.

529
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Speaker 4: A woman in this business. Hey, Cam, I'm maybe I'm

530
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Speaker 4: a look confused.

531
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Speaker 2: Are there any black women in the world or is

532
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: being just a woman the only thing that black women are?

533
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: That just women, not black and women?

534
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

535
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I said, it's just one of those things

536
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Speaker 5: where when you know it's certain code royds, you used

537
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: that when people say, you go, okay, you're excluding me.

538
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Speaker 5: I get this because when you use that phrase, which

539
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 5: is a lot of white feminists used, you're.

540
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Speaker 1: Not you don't care nothing about me.

541
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Speaker 5: All you say is being a white woman in this

542
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 5: world has got to be the worst thing ever. But

543
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 5: what you fail to realize there's other brown women, baby,

544
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 5: who got a whole lot worse than you could have

545
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 5: a dream of based off of the color of their skin.

546
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Speaker 5: But because you don't have to deal with that, you

547
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: want everybody to be included. Because when everybody included, you

548
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 5: got numbers. But yet when their plights come up, you

549
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 5: don't you their their plights don't matter because it doesn't

550
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Speaker 5: run on the platform.

551
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Speaker 1: Of all us being women.

552
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Speaker 2: It also speaks to the fact that, like I said,

553
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Speaker 2: the media is white. Because I'm on now, you can

554
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: tell no black woman was asking this question. No black

555
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: person was asking this question.

556
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Speaker 5: No, because if they was a lot of answers that

557
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: we would be getting would be completely different if a

558
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Speaker 5: black person was asking them this question. These asking these

559
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: white women these questions, they would not dare come out

560
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: because they would have to deal with that person looking

561
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Speaker 5: them in the face, right and possibly saying something back

562
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 5: to them and challenging them on everything that came out

563
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Speaker 5: their mouth. But when you have people that look like you,

564
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Speaker 5: and it's okay with the status call, Actually these questions,

565
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 5: you're not gonna have any follow up. You're not gonna

566
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Speaker 5: have any in depth question. You're not gonna have any

567
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: second or third questions. You're not gonna have there's not

568
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: gonna be explaining yourself because your quote unquote understood per se.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she says. Now she's been OSCAR nominated for before

570
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Speaker 2: midnight and before sunset, she said that she has had

571
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Speaker 2: She has raised the same issue of how few women

572
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Speaker 2: were members of the academy and most picture are the

573
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Speaker 2: scientists and scientism was shut down two years ago. I

574
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Speaker 2: said something about the Academy being very white male, which

575
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: is in reality, which is the reality, and I would

576
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Speaker 2: slash the pieces by the media. She told the raps

577
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Speaker 2: Jeff Schnyder, It's funny women can't talk. I sometimes wish

578
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Speaker 2: our African American because people don't bash them afterwards.

579
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Speaker 1: Oh bitch, you don't get the holy fuck out of here.

580
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Speaker 5: Oh my god, what and see that that's the thing

581
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: when people don't really know or don't really understand, what

582
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 5: it's like to be goddamn black. See she definitely didn't

583
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Speaker 5: say this in the room full of black women, people

584
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Speaker 5: who had to be black all their motherfucking lives.

585
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Speaker 4: You know, black people don't get bashed after we speak

586
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Speaker 4: up for ourselves.

587
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: We all know this.

588
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Speaker 5: Oh so she ain't been paying attention to Black lives matter.

589
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: She she hadn't been paying paying attention to Netta. She

590
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: hadn't been paying attention to Vola Davis when Vola Davis

591
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: made her speech. She hadn't been paying attention to a

592
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 5: motherfucking thing that's been happening. Anytime we open up our

593
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 5: motherfucking mouse period about anything that happens to us, it's

594
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 5: an automatic backlash. It's automatic. We're being divisive. It's automatic.

595
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: We've bring a race into shit, shit that directly affects us.

596
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 5: This is what happened when people open up their mouths

597
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: and racism does not motherfucking affect you at all.

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Speaker 2: Yep. That's also why I always say you could be

599
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: a quote unquote liberal ally and still be the enemy

600
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, because you you just

601
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: don't want to give up any of your space. When

602
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: push comes a shove too, you know, like she's like,

603
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Speaker 2: I guarantee she hasn't paid attention to anything you just mentioned, right.

604
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Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, you don't don't

605
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: get care, right, you don't care.

606
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Speaker 5: And the sad part about it, particularly when these white

607
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: women speak up, they fail to realize diversity, if you

608
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Speaker 5: really want to talk about diversity, benefits you more than

609
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: any other group. When we start talking about diversity, you

610
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: benefit more than any other brown person, just like with

611
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Speaker 5: affirmative action and all these other things.

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Speaker 1: You benefit.

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Speaker 5: That means all of a sudden, you start getting these positions,

614
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Speaker 5: you start going up the ranks, you start getting paid.

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Speaker 1: More in addition to us, but a lot of times

616
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Speaker 1: with us whatever. For every dollar you getting We're probably

617
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Speaker 1: getting twenty to thirty cents on that fucking dollar.

618
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Speaker 5: So it's just one of those things where you really

619
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: don't care unless it involves white women. Because I guarantee

620
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Speaker 5: you when you went there and talk to talk talk

621
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Speaker 5: to them about this brown people wutting on your radar.

622
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 5: LGBTQ people was not on their radar. You wentn't considering

623
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Speaker 5: these groups of people when you're quote unquote standing up

624
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Speaker 5: for rights.

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Speaker 4: She went on, it's the hardest to be a woman.

626
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Speaker 2: Feminist is something people hate above all, nothing worse than

627
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Speaker 2: being a woman in the business.

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Speaker 4: I really believe that.

629
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Speaker 2: She appeared on the RAPS Interview Studio at Sunday It's

630
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Speaker 2: on Friday to promote a new Todd Sullen Dogs film

631
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Speaker 2: called Wiener Dog, along with co stars Daddy de Vito

632
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Speaker 2: and Kiaren Cocin. The veto was similarly harsh in his

633
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Speaker 2: assessment of Hollywood and the rest of the United States.

634
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Speaker 2: It's unfortunate that where xenophobic. It's unfortunate that women make

635
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: thirty percent less than men at various times. I just

636
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: found out I just found out happens in the film business.

637
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: Women are hired for less money than men. Behind the scenes,

638
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Speaker 2: Delpi said she was frustrated at having trouble getting her

639
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Speaker 2: movies made, so women have it the hardest. Then later

640
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Speaker 2: on she said, I'm very sorry for how I express myself.

641
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Speaker 2: It was never meant to to minister injustice done the

642
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Speaker 2: African American artist or to any other people that struggle

643
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: with opportunities and rights. On the contrary, all I was

644
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: trying to do is to address the issues of inequality

645
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: opportunity in the industry for women as well as I

646
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Speaker 2: am a woman. I never intended to underestimate anyone else's struggle.

647
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Speaker 2: We should stay alert and united and support each other

648
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Speaker 2: to change this unfair reality, and don't let anyone sabotage.

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Speaker 4: Our common efforts by distorting the truth.

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Speaker 1: You meant what you said.

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Speaker 2: She went on to say, again, I'm so sorry for

652
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Speaker 2: this unfortunate misunderstanding. People who know me know very well

653
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Speaker 2: that I can't stand inequality and injustice of any kind.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you meant what you said, and this is one

655
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Speaker 5: of those things, like I said, with folks, I get

656
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 5: them phone calls and emails, and your Twitter feed you

657
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: blow up, and your Facebook posts blow up, or whatever

658
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 5: your Instagram pictures get total pieces and social media and shambles.

659
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Speaker 5: Somebody in your public relations department get a hold of you.

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Speaker 5: But I bit, you better apologize because because we've been bombarded.

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Speaker 5: Other than that you would not care. We wouldn't have

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Speaker 5: got this apology.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but this kind of obvious. What's going

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Speaker 2: on there? Dan de Vito said that we are a

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Speaker 2: bunch of racist Uh, straight to the point. I actually

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Speaker 2: love that. I love that ship, like man, you you

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Speaker 2: you you you and you yeah, you're like fuck that ship. Man,

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Speaker 2: I ain't about to hear my black well white ass up.

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Speaker 7: The entire country. And he's a racist country and we

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Speaker 7: so it's this is one example of the fact that

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Speaker 7: even though some people are, you know, giving great performances

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Speaker 7: to movies, they weren't even thought about. So it's like,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's we are We are living in a

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Speaker 7: in a country that.

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Speaker 18: Discriminates and and it has certain certain racial tendencies, which

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Speaker 18: racist tendencies, and so sometimes this man invested.

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Speaker 8: In things like this.

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Speaker 9: It's illuminated.

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Speaker 18: But just generally speaking, we're a racist.

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Speaker 12: We're a bunch of racists.

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Speaker 19: I applaud their attempts to do something about it, which

682
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 19: is great. But again, this is dealing with the symptom,

683
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Speaker 19: not starting at the root cause of how we even

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Speaker 19: get to results like this, which has to do with

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Speaker 19: inclusion and access and the ability for people of color,

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Speaker 19: women minorities to get a entry level positions where you

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Speaker 19: can become someone who can green.

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Speaker 7: Light a movie.

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Speaker 13: I'm baffeled by it. I mean, I would have thought

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Speaker 13: that I dressail about this is Sam Neil and Sam

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Speaker 13: Jackson would have been a shoeing for nominations. But jee,

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Speaker 13: I don't live in Hollywood. We live in a skilled

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Speaker 13: little part of the world where we don't think about

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Speaker 13: these things very much.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Carl whiteness. We live in a place called privilege.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to consider these things very often. Let's

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Speaker 2: see who else had something to say. Oh, Michael Kaine.

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Speaker 2: Michael Caine, You guys may know him as Alfred in

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Speaker 2: the New Batman trilogy. Michael Kaine's the Laser to start

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Speaker 2: away in on diversity issues. In an interview with Nick

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Speaker 2: Robinson for BBC Radio four, Kine was asked about the

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Speaker 2: argument going in on in how going on in Hollywood

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Speaker 2: at the moment that not enough black actors, in fact,

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Speaker 2: none have been nominated for this year's Oscars. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but there's loads of black actors. You can't vote for

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Speaker 2: an actor because he's black. You can't just say I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna vote for him. He's not very good, but he's black,

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Speaker 2: I'll vote for him. You have to give a good performance.

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Speaker 2: He added that he was sure there were very good

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Speaker 2: performances last year actors of colors, especially citing Beast of

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Speaker 2: No Nations star Eddris Elba, who was one of the

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Speaker 2: most surprising Oscar snubs.

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Speaker 1: The one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether Edris got nominated. Okay, so he

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Speaker 2: didn't even fucking know I saw Wait, what the fuck

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Speaker 2: you mean he didn't know? The question was nobody black

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Speaker 2: got nominated?

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Speaker 4: So the fuck you mean?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't Maybe he I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: he got nominated. It looks to the fucking question. Stupid. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: the one I don't I don't know whether Idris got nominated,

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Speaker 2: Kane said, I saw Idris. I thought he was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I thought he would get nominated. Did he not get nominated?

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Speaker 5: All hmmm, that asked you about it being all white?

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Speaker 5: Of course didn't get nominated.

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Speaker 2: Then of course he got told he didn't get nominated.

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Speaker 2: That's the fucking basis of the question. He says, Well,

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Speaker 2: look at me. I won the European Film Award for

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Speaker 2: Best Actor and I got nominated for nothing else. The

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Speaker 2: eighty two year old actor had been in contention for

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Speaker 2: his role in Youth. The great thing about it is

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Speaker 2: you don't have to go, Kane said about failing to

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Speaker 2: receive a nomination. He then joked that he wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to sit here there clapping for Leonardo DiCaprio. I love Leonardo,

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Speaker 2: he played my son in law in the movie. But

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Speaker 2: I don't want to travel that far. I'm too old

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Speaker 2: to travel that far to sit in the audience at

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Speaker 2: clap for someone else. Asked by Robinson of his message

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Speaker 2: to non white what if his message to non white

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Speaker 2: actors is be patient? Kane said it was be patient.

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Speaker 2: He said, of course it will come. It took me

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Speaker 2: years aget an Oscar. Since last week's Oscar nomination, Mini

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Speaker 2: started Elie, all right, yeah, all right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: He clueless. Yeah, he's part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of clueless, Stacey Dash clapped back at b E

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Speaker 2: T because, ah.

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Speaker 1: They was like it was our money back then. Since

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Speaker 1: you don't want us to exist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, BT uh started showing video rap videos with her

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Speaker 2: in it. Uh, you know, all kinds of stuff. Ever

751
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Speaker 2: since I said this on Fox yesterday, Black Entertainment Television

752
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: has been throwing shade. They reminded me and the rest

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Speaker 2: of America that I appeared on the show called The Game,

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Speaker 2: which appeared on BET.

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Speaker 4: So at real st can we get our check back?

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Speaker 4: Or now the Instagram catch.

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Speaker 2: And red hashtag? Remember hashtag you are on the game

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Speaker 2: hashtat we don't mean the rapper. Well here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for reminding me. Since most people have never

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Speaker 2: heard of that show, why it's on BT? Quick named

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Speaker 2: the top shows on BT, probably being Mary Jane, the

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Speaker 2: house Husband show Drawing a Blank. No, I was not

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Speaker 2: drawing the blank, Stacey. Think I made my point, thankfully? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: drawing a blank? White people that I'm really writing this too?

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm thankful for all of the acting jobs I've had,

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Speaker 2: but I look forward to the day when people don't

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Speaker 2: self segregate based on skin color. While loudly complaining about

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Speaker 2: a segregated society, that might be hard for people at

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Speaker 2: BT to understand, especially after I read this quote from

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Speaker 2: a BT executi about the Oscars. It would be great

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Speaker 2: if the Oscar nominees represented every I mean even closely

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Speaker 2: the percentage of moviegoers who are of different ethnicity. But

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Speaker 2: they don't set Stephen Hill. Wow, apparently mister Hill doesn't

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Speaker 2: understand what an Oscar is. Oscars are awarded to the people,

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Speaker 2: to the actors and actresses who excel something that Stacy

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00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: never has, not the audience. What's next a war rewarding

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Speaker 2: one million dollars to the guy sitting in the pajamas

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Speaker 2: on the couch watching Survivor.

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Speaker 4: Wow, this she is dumb. This is one dumb lady.

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Speaker 2: Given a blue rhythm, a blue ribbon to the kid

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Speaker 2: who stayed home from Phield Day, Given a Noble Peace

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00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: Prize to a president who escalated wars in Iraq and

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Speaker 2: Afghanistan Obama Shade, No, that would be unreasonable. What's funny

785
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: about this is that they're not saying, give awards to

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00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: the actual people who go see movies. Stupid and Will

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Speaker 2: Smith didn't sit at home on his couch or it

788
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: just Elver didn't sit at home, you know, like, come on, man.

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Speaker 2: My problem goes back to the notion that every area

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Speaker 2: of life needs to break down exactly according to demographic ratio,

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Speaker 2: except those areas which black people have decided they want

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Speaker 2: to have their own space. I don't have a problem

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00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: with black people have in their own space. I have

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00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: a problem with folks at BT absolutely freaking out where

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Speaker 2: other institutions don't match up to what they think is best.

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: At National Review they put it this way, Yeah, you

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00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 2: do have a problem. And also, by default, you're saying

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Speaker 2: the OSCARS is a white space and shit remain so

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Speaker 2: from their undisputed cultural heights. Progressors have sold the American

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Speaker 2: people that in the fantasy that says America is racist,

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00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: unless every demographic group enjoys the benefits of its life

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00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: and shares this burden and exact proportion to the numbers

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Speaker 2: and accept of course, when it comes to areas of

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Speaker 2: cultural dominance by African Americans, the article goes on to

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00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: say that it's perfectly fine for hipopogaze be overwhelming black,

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00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: but lord help the institution that doesn't measure up the

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00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: standards of diversity they deem is acceptable. BT lies to

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Speaker 2: American Black people by telling them that the rest of

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00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 2: America is racist, so stick close to your own kind.

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Speaker 2: Anything that promotes segation bad and they're absolutely mortified to

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Speaker 2: someone like me, an independent thinking black woman dares call

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Speaker 2: that blood. Yeah, she's more like a dependent thinking black woman,

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Speaker 2: depending on what these white people checks club.

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Speaker 5: Right, all right, because if they stop paying, what's what's

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Speaker 5: the purpose of you showing up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? She I mean yeah, it's hard to take her

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00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: seriously on any level. The View talked about her.

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00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 20: The View Fox News contributor Stacey Dance just waiting on

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00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 20: the Oscar boycott, and she claims it's not just the

820
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Speaker 20: academy who needs to be racially inclusive.

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Speaker 3: Take a look.

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Speaker 12: We have to make up our minds either we want

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Speaker 12: to have segregation or integration. And if we don't want segregation,

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Speaker 12: then we need to get rid of channels like b

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Speaker 12: ET and the b ET Awards and the Image Awards,

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Speaker 12: where you're only awarded if you're black.

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Speaker 1: If it were the other way around, we would be

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Speaker 1: up in arms. It's a double stamp. So you say

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Speaker 1: there shouldn't be a BEET change, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 12: No, just like there shouldn't be a Black History Month.

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Speaker 12: You know, we're Americans, period, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have to black history. There's White History Month

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Speaker 1: is every other month.

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Speaker 17: So Black History Month is there to spotlight on, you know,

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Speaker 17: the history, and it's important.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think it's the height of

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Speaker 3: hypocrisy that Stacy Dash would say that there should be

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Speaker 3: no beet when she had a recurring role on the

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Speaker 3: VET show They Game for one, she was a presenter

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Speaker 3: at the NAACP Theater Awards.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am talking to you, Ms Dash.

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Speaker 3: She's graced the cover of Jet Pride, Heart and.

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Speaker 1: Soul Smooth Change. Really, Stacy Dash.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it's incredible that she would

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Speaker 3: give up whatever value she had in the first place

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00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: to pander to an audience that is sort of angry

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00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: and scared of people that don't look like them, and

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Speaker 3: she is giving them.

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Speaker 1: Continue to be angry, angry and scared the job.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm so glad Raven had the day off.

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Speaker 5: Me too, because I thought I was like, oh lord,

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Speaker 5: this Raymond, this is gonna be some ignorant ship. But

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Speaker 5: whoever that lady is now on Dreda. She ain't gonna

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Speaker 5: be there alone, right, She she had research, she had facts.

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Speaker 5: What no, you ain't gonna be there on yeah? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: So she was a sitting she had to be because yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, they don't get this level of intelligence.

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Speaker 2: Raven would have been sent up there talking about she agreed.

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Speaker 2: Come on, now, she's just an American.

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Speaker 1: I don't and that's no such thing as color.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Uh so uh yeah. Oscar winning producer denounces for all

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Speaker 2: brats crime racism. As far as Michael Morris concerned, he's

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Speaker 2: a socialist, always looking to insert his brand and racist hatred.

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Speaker 2: Spike Lee Han't I heard this from him before, says

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Speaker 2: Schindler Lists producer Gerald Molin.

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Speaker 4: Schindler's List producer.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Oh yeah, it's just one of those things. Well,

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to I've said this before when I was

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Speaker 5: on the Interracial Jones. When it comes to the Holocaust,

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Speaker 5: we remember forever. You fucking will never ever forget. They

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Speaker 5: will show dead bodies, they will show you videos. Sendler's

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Speaker 5: List will actually be the movie that you watch. But

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Speaker 5: when it comes to shit that affect brown people, forget

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Speaker 5: about it.

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Speaker 1: It ain't that important. Why why should we even care?

877
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, wow, She's lists list.

878
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: Come on, dog?

879
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 11: Uh?

880
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: He said, there's no racism except for those who create

881
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: an issue that is the worst kind uses such an

882
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: ugly way of complaining. The idea ofcott Boycott is ridiculous.

883
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: Are their noses been out of shape by the award nominations?

884
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: Of course that is normal in a town of egos,

885
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: of red carpet desires. While there were many performances of note,

886
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: not all my choices for the best inarious categories have

887
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: been realized. Mollin revealed that Steven Spielborth's Bridges Spies got

888
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: his vote for Best Feeling. He thought the film was

889
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: masterful and sadly that placed a lot of other films

890
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: in second place, But that can only be one The

891
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: veteran producer said he at least had some sivity for

892
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: will Smith because he gave a worthy performance and concussion.

893
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: But even then, it's not like he has been ignored

894
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: or overlooked in the past. I understand his disappointment, but

895
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: see no prejudice of racism in his not making it.

896
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe he lost by one vote I saw.

897
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: I say to all my co members, stop acting like

898
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: sporil brats. Look to the next award show for recognition

899
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: if you deserve it, right. I also addressed each of

900
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: the four who had announced that non participation individually. The

901
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: only comment that might have.

902
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: Been some legitimate substance is the one from Jada Pinkett.

903
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: I understand her disappointment for her husband, but that doesn't

904
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: mean she has corrected her analysis. As far as Michael

905
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: Moore is concerned, he is a socialist, always looking at

906
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: Sera's brand.

907
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: Of racist hatred.

908
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: Spike Lee, having I heard this from him before, he

909
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: also disagrees with many of his academy compatriots. Disagrees with

910
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: many of his academy competris is to be expected. After

911
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: producing Schindler's List, Jurassic Park, Twister, Raymond, Minority Port, other

912
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: black busters. He executive produced twenty sixteen Obama's America, the

913
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: documentary from conservative activist the Niche Dzuza. Molland added, he

914
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: doesn't know the racial makeup of the more than six

915
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: thousand members of the Academy, but it is a stupid

916
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: assumption to presume a good number of white members aren't

917
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: voted for black actors due to their skin color. In

918
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: a liberal time like Hollywood. That makes about as much

919
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: sense as saying all the members in the Academy vote Republican,

920
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: He equipped.

921
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: And that's probably true, but it's just one of those things.

922
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: Where wait, why are you saying that's probably true? Oh,

923
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: that's a lot of them vote Republican. No, he said,

924
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: that's as silly as assuming that his point was the opposite.

925
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: Sarcastic not bad, I think for me.

926
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: Uh just everything he said was racist.

927
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: And he was talking about if they deserve it, So

928
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 5: a lot of times they use these phrases the basically

929
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 5: say black people just don't deserve it, black people didn't

930
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: perform well enough.

931
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: It's not the fact.

932
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 5: And it's funny how they've came out and said that

933
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 5: out of the seven thousand members, like they've broke these

934
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 5: six thousands, I mean six thousand members, they've broke down

935
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: the race and genders of people. But everybody act like, well,

936
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 5: we don't know what this number pertains.

937
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: You just just ignorance.

938
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to be racist and be liberal. I

939
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: mean the end of the day, you're still a rich

940
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: white person.

941
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 20: You know.

942
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: It's like the interview with Stephen Colbert and Deray where

943
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: he talked to by his privilege of having money and

944
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: having the show, and he's like, how can I work

945
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: on this? And he's like, well, I'm not giving up

946
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: my money on my show, and it's like, yeah, diversity

947
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: means you got to give something up.

948
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 4: Nobody want to do that part.

949
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey uh talked about his friend Cosby Oscars boycott

950
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: and Miss Universe fiasco.

951
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: Oh who asked him?

952
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 7: Uh uh?

953
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: He said, I understand what they're saying. What I don't

954
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 2: understand is asking Chris Rock about the host.

955
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

956
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: Mm hm uh yeah, he he said.

957
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 4: I understand the boycott, I understand the saying. I understand something.

958
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: Chris Rock not the host. I think Chris Rock should host.

959
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: Chris Rock doesn't determine who who the nominees are. That

960
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: academy does, and nobody knows who the academy is, right, right.

961
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 5: And that's one point that I have because a lot

962
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: of these people that's voting, a lot of them, they've

963
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 5: been voting for years. A lot of people in the sixties, seventies, eighties,

964
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: nobody knows who the fuck these people are. So a

965
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 5: lot of these people are very anonymous. So even if

966
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 5: you read their names, you still don't know who the

967
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 5: fuck they are. You did a movie back in nineteen

968
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 5: seventy two, I wouldn't got them born then. I don't

969
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: know who you are, and it's just one of those things.

970
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: But that's how they've been allowed to be like this

971
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 5: and be like this for years, because nobody's ever challenged

972
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 5: them on why they vote the way they vote.

973
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Quincy Jones talked about it. He said, they called

974
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: me to go present with pharrel in Common. When I'm

975
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: back in Los Angeles, I'm going to ask them to

976
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 2: let me speak for five minutes on the lack of diversity.

977
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 4: If not, I'm going to present. I'm not going to present.

978
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: Jones words came as more black artists are calling out

979
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for its

980
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: lack of diversity and membership of Anno Reeve's actress Jada

981
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: Pinkett Smith and filmmakers Spike Lee have both said that

982
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: they want to pay or want to attend the OSCARS.

983
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 4: Academy members have defended the move.

984
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: CEO Don Hudson has spoken out, saying it's almost at

985
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: a point of crisis. I've been involved. I've been involved

986
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: with the Academy longitan I can to remember, said Quincy

987
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: Jones and Miami Beach to be honored by the National

988
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: Association Television Program Executives, I was the first black board member.

989
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: I hate first black because that means only Jones does

990
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: have a long history with the Oscars. He was named

991
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: musical director and conductor of the Academy Award ceremony in

992
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one. In nineteen ninety five, he was the

993
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: first African American to receive the Academy Jean Hershaw Humanitarian Award.

994
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 2: Jones wouldn't go so far as a comment on those

995
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: who have already said they were boycott the Oscars, but

996
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: he did note that he's seen to favor something more proactive.

997
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: There are two ways to do it. You can boycott

998
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: or you can fix it. It's frightening to see ninety

999
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 2: percent white at eighty percent white male.

1000
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: Okay, well, the boycott is can cause it to be

1001
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 4: fixed though, right, And.

1002
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 5: The boycott is what's causing people to quote unquote get

1003
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 5: up in the pandit because it's one of those things

1004
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 5: where the truth be told. When it comes to the Academy,

1005
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 5: it's the gold standard and people can't debate that. It

1006
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 5: is like the gold standard among your peers. And yes,

1007
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: you have these other awards that people win, and these

1008
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 5: awards do mean something to people, but let's just keep

1009
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 5: this real. These other awards don't get you a lot

1010
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 5: of times the places that you need to be in

1011
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 5: your industry. A lot of times people immediately doors open

1012
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 5: for people, They get more opportunities to do shit, they

1013
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 5: get more money, they get bigger budgets for winning this award.

1014
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 5: And it's one of these things where you want your

1015
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 5: award to be prestigious, but yet when people tell you

1016
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 5: that black people a brown people can be prestigious too,

1017
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, no, it's okay the way it is.

1018
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways.

1019
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 5: You can't be like, well, this War Award quote unquote

1020
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 5: is only for white people that we feel dean good enough.

1021
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: But yet they work with black peers.

1022
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 5: Black players are their co workers, you know, they work

1023
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 5: around their artists, producer, makeup artists and all this shit,

1024
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 5: and you just ignore all these people, which mean these

1025
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 5: people never get the opportunity to do the things that

1026
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 5: they may have on their radar two and never get

1027
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 5: to work with people that they've always wanted to work with,

1028
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 5: or get to the position where they can produce their

1029
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: own shit. And it's just one of those things where

1030
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 5: to me, when I look at it, things have got

1031
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 5: to change in boycotting matters because a lot of these

1032
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 5: black people, it's they are people that people will recognize

1033
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 5: when these people aren't there, and people gonna go, Okay,

1034
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 5: why aren't you here? And it's like, you don't want

1035
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 5: the backlash of not being diverse, but you want to

1036
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: claim you're diverse.

1037
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: Right, You're making a statement and you're taking your presence

1038
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: away so they won't be cutting it to you during

1039
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: the black joke section, you know, not to mention the

1040
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: commercials theyre.

1041
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 4: Putting out right now. It's like they're trying to find all.

1042
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: The past Black Award winners and put them in all

1043
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: the ads and shit, Like it's clear what they're doing.

1044
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: You know, it does matter, and public spectacle and embarrassment

1045
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: often are the ways that you can get get shit accomplished.

1046
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, because at the end of the day, you hope,

1047
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 5: you hope that people care and that people have the

1048
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 5: humanity in their hearts. But you know what, fuck it,

1049
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: I don't care if you care or not want to

1050
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 5: come on certain things. I'm going to embarrass you to

1051
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 5: do the right thing. And sometimes me embarrassing you causes

1052
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 5: you to change, even if you don't want to change

1053
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, it's all about dollars, right,

1054
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 5: that's all it's all about.

1055
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: It's all about dollars. People don't make certain.

1056
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 5: Decisions because they quote unquote care about diversity.

1057
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: They do it because the dollars make sense.

1058
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 5: And it makes no sense for black people not to

1059
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 5: be there, because you know what that means the black

1060
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 5: people who keep shit trending on social media, particular Twitter,

1061
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 5: which everybody keeps their eyes on. If we're talking about

1062
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 5: something else, you're going to see your ratings go down.

1063
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 5: And that ship matters too, because if your ratings go down, sorry,

1064
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 5: that means if your ratings go down.

1065
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Guess what that means? People are getting less for those

1066
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: spots times.

1067
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: I definitely, I don't know why, let me just mute

1068
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 2: it's a problem.

1069
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: When you have less eyes on it.

1070
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 5: That means that the next year people aren't going to

1071
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 5: be willing to spend as much for these commercial spots

1072
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 5: because why am I spending all this money and nobody's

1073
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 5: watching it.

1074
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, it's about money.

1075
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: And you just don't want to become the institution that's

1076
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: viewed as the racist institution. Correct, you know, what I mean,

1077
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: like like the past. In the past, I feel like

1078
00:56:54,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: that that having that stigma was already bad. But then

1079
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: a couple of people won and people went, Okay, well

1080
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: this kind of barrier has been broken. Now black people

1081
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: will be recognized. And then all of a sudden it's like,

1082
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: oh wait, no, no, it's like this is egregious. We

1083
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: have to discuss it, right, And I feel like because

1084
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: it's worse than it has been uh in recent history,

1085
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: because people felt like that ground was broken. Uh yeah,

1086
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: you're you're damn right. People are gonna continue to discuss

1087
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: it and bring it up and then and if you

1088
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: don't want the stigma of doing being that racist institution,

1089
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: you have to make some drastic change that.

1090
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: And is just one of those things to where.

1091
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 5: The first year everybody was like, oh okay, it was

1092
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 5: a problem then, but everybody go two years in the row, okay,

1093
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 5: y'all just flat fucking ignoring people, and y'all just are

1094
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 5: not even considering these people, And people go, well, yes,

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00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 5: we know you're not, because if you were considering them,

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00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 5: they would be.

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00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: Up for the h Just coincidentally, no black.

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00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: People, no people for two years, for two years in

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00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: a row, Okay, we're all these.

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00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 5: Black movies been coming out, and you mean to tell

1101
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 5: me no, because honestly, a lot of people defended this

1102
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 5: shit going.

1103
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: There's no brown people worthy.

1104
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 5: There's no Indians, there's no Latinos, no hispanic that you know,

1105
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 5: no Asians like you know, no Native Americans that you

1106
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 5: know that we ain't talking about, No Muslims.

1107
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: No, there's nobody worthy but.

1108
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 5: These white people and I And when people push against that,

1109
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 5: everybody fucking Panics.

1110
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: And you know what happens, People's racism comes out.

1111
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 5: When when people when the traditionals that is quote is

1112
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 5: pressed upon, and people know shit is about to change, people's.

1113
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: Racism come out. And that's all a lot of this is.

1114
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 5: It's just people that have been racist for a long

1115
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 5: time and now they're angry, and now they're mad, and

1116
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 5: now they're quote unquote fed up because now they have

1117
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 5: to be diverse.

1118
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, Muslim is not a racist, just a religion,

1119
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: but Muslim people. But yeah, but but but also there

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00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: there are any Muslim nominans, you know what I mean? Yeah,

1121
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: there's you know, just that's not even a you know,

1122
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: that's not even just a race.

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00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: That's just like my bad. I't mean it like that,

1124
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: but you no, it's fine.

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've even I don't even know

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00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: if I don't know if a Muslim persons one that

1127
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: I that I can think of anyway. Also, Chris Rocky,

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00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: you guys have to go read it for yourself because

1129
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: very long. But Chris rock panned are pretty nice open

1130
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: letter that's really in depth talking about Hollywood's race uh

1131
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: issues and that it's a white industry. I really enjoyed it.

1132
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: The headline for The Hollywood Reporter called it a blistering essay,

1133
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: but I don't think I don't think it was blistering

1134
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: like it wasn't.

1135
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 16: You know.

1136
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: They have to frame it as angry and aggressive and

1137
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: trying to like trying to start some shit.

1138
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: But he wasn't even using any angry or aggressive language

1139
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: or whatever it's, you know, but he just was being honest.

1140
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 18: You know.

1141
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: I guess if you're trying to say it was blisteringly honest, maybe,

1142
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: but yeah, it was. I loved it.

1143
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1144
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: He said it's the most liberal town in the world,

1145
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: and that's part of there's part of it that's kind

1146
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: of racist, not racist, like fuck you nigga racist, but

1147
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: like an acceptance that there's a slave state in LA,

1148
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: that there's acceptance that Mexicans are going to take care

1149
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: of white people in LA that doesn't exist everywhere else.

1150
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: I remember I was writing the House in Beverly Park

1151
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: while doing some movie, and you just see all the

1152
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: Mexican people at eight o'clock in the morning in a

1153
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: line driving into Beverly Park like its general motors. It's

1154
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: just weird town, you know. So yeah, it's just a

1155
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: good it's a good read. The whole thing is good.

1156
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: So google that.

1157
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: Chris Rock Hollywood reporter Ice Q wade in on the

1158
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: Oscars controversy and whether hill Boy you know, made his

1159
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: name by you know what I'm saying, burn Hollywood, burn

1160
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: and shit. He said, I never used to go anyway.

1161
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: You can't boycott something that you never went to anyway.

1162
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: Yep, like them people, I'm boycotting Chick fil A. Do

1163
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: you got Chick Filan in your state?

1164
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 5: No?

1165
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you boycotting? Uh?

1166
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: That's actually pretty real. So I look at it like

1167
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: a horse race. Once your horse lose the race, you

1168
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: tell your ticket and you just back on out. But

1169
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: Q didn't hold any grudges, and what's philosophical about Oscar slight?

1170
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 2: About this Oscar slight. We don't do movies for the industry.

1171
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: We do movies for the fans. For the people in

1172
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: the industry. If they give you a trophy or not,

1173
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: or pat you on the back or not, it's nice

1174
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: and it's not something you should dwell on. We got

1175
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 2: so much praise for the movie, it's like, how could

1176
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: you be mad because one other academy or guild or

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: anybody didn't say it was It's crying and not having

1178
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: enough iceing on your cake.

1179
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: It's just us.

1180
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: So he said, basically, he had lower expectations. Now, honestly,

1181
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: those lowered expectations might be part of systematic racism, though

1182
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: the fact that you've accepted that I won't be getting nominated,

1183
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: so it would be nice if I did, But honestly,

1184
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't expect to.

1185
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 4: No matter how well my ship does.

1186
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm not waste my time.

1187
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 5: If I win something today, somebody's gonna have to take

1188
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 5: it on my behalf because I won't be there.

1189
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 4: So the Academy basically made a change.

1190
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: Due to that hashtag Oscar so white and all the

1191
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: pressure from that and uh, the galvanizing forces online, and

1192
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: you know, uh, they decided that they did need to

1193
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: make some changes because.

1194
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 4: You know, the ship was looking bad.

1195
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: And they got Chryboon Isaacs there in charge, partially because

1196
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: they were trying to show that they were committed to diversity,

1197
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: right and she under the rules that they had, it

1198
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: just wasn't happening fast enough. And as a warning shot,

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01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: it really wasn't a warning. You know, people were like, oh,

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01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: fucking business as usual.

1201
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: They really thought that.

1202
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: Who So, three seats appointed by the President are being

1203
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: added to the Board of Governors, and individual members voting

1204
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: rights will be reviewed every ten years. The Academy of

1205
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: Motion Pictures, Arts and Scientists unveiled on Friday several dramatic

1206
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: changes in its structure and voting regulations in the effort

1207
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: to promote diversity. Its goal, that Academy said, is to

1208
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: double the number of women and diverse members of the

1209
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: Academy by twenty twenty, so that women comprise forty eight

1210
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: percent of the organization and diverse group groups make up

1211
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: fourteen percent of a total membership. The move come comes

1212
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: as the moves come at the as the Academy's face

1213
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: the mounting controversy or the lack of diversity at this

1214
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: year's OSCARS nominations. They keep saying this year it's the

1215
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: last two years. Though for organization that change comes slowly

1216
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: and incremental incrementally. Fridays announcement represents an unusually quick response

1217
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: and the sweeping development. While Academy President Cheryl Boone Isaacs

1218
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: and the group CEO Don Hudson have been looking have

1219
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: been working to improve diversity representation within the Academy for

1220
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: the past several years, Boone Ozicks admitted in a previous

1221
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: statement January eighteenth, the change is not coming as fast

1222
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: as we would like, and it's time for big changes.

1223
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: The Academy is adding three new seats to its fifty

1224
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: one person Board of Governors rather than representing existing branches.

1225
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: The members chosen to fill those seats will be nominated

1226
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: by the president for three year terms and then confirmed

1227
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: by the board. Boone Isaacs is expected to name the

1228
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: new board members as soon as early February. The Academy

1229
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: also said it will take a media action to increase

1230
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: diversity by adding new members who are not on the

1231
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: Board of Governors to his Executive and Committee board committees,

1232
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: where decisions about membership and governance are made in the

1233
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 2: hopes of allowing new members to have a move more

1234
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: active role in Academy decision making. The organization is also

1235
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 2: instituting new rules affecting voting status. Each new members voting

1236
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: status will last ten years. Renewal is dependent on that

1237
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: new member being active in motion pictures during that decade.

1238
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: In addition, members will receive lifetime voting rights after three

1239
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: ten year terms or if they have won or been

1240
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: nominated for an Academy award. The same standards will be

1241
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: applied retroactively to current members. Those who do not qualify

1242
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 2: for active status will be moved to emeritis status, while

1243
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: they will enjoy all the privileges.

1244
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 4: For membership except being able to vote.

1245
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: None of those changes yet will affect the year the

1246
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: voting of this year's oscars. In an effort to recruit

1247
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: new members, the Academy will continue with this traditional process

1248
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: in which current members sponsor new members, but will also

1249
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: launch what is called an ambitious global campaign identify and

1250
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: recruit qualified new members who represent greater diversity. The Academy

1251
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: is going to lead and not wait for the industry

1252
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: to catch up to boonogics in a statement, there's these

1253
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: new measures regarding governance and voting were having a media

1254
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: impact and begin the process of significantly changing our membership composition. Yeah.

1255
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: The one thing I wonder about this, how because you

1256
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: know how entrenched like whiteness and white privileges. I wonder

1257
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: if this will dilute the meaning of an oscar for

1258
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: many people. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like now

1259
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: it's oh, well, they're just given. I mean, not that

1260
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: black people are in the decision making process. I mean

1261
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: they don't mean what they used to mean. I mean

1262
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: back when Oscar meant something you know a lot of Yeah,

1263
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 2: it was more exclusionary. It meant something to win, especially

1264
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: like the first couple of black or brown people that

1265
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: get nominated.

1266
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: Oh, well, of course it's because of this new Oscar initiative.

1267
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, was he really good in that movie?

1268
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 4: Or was it just that they had to have a

1269
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 4: black guy or they had to have a black woman?

1270
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: You Knowaday is going to lean The moves are hell

1271
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: by Kevin Sujahara, chairman and CEO Warner Brothers and an

1272
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: Academy member himself, who said in the statement the changes

1273
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: made by the ampas are a great step toward broadening

1274
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: the diversity and inclusivity of the Academy and, by extension,

1275
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: the industry. While the Academy is promising to double the

1276
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: number of women in minorities in organization by twenty twenty,

1277
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: today it has not revealed exactly how many women in

1278
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: minorities currently are in this membership ranks.

1279
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 4: In fact, in the past, when.

1280
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: Asked to provide these statistics, the Academy I said it

1281
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: doesn't keep track of its members demographic makeup, and I

1282
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: don't believe that on purpose.

1283
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 4: On the well, I believe them they do it on purpose.

1284
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: Probably they probably like, yeah, we don't want to know

1285
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: that number, because we already know it's something. It's gonna

1286
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: be ninety nine percent white or some crazy shit. Oh okay, okay,

1287
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 2: So why would we even keep track of that shit.

1288
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: It's not looking good.

1289
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know it.

1290
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 5: That's why we're trying to change it. And once we

1291
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 5: change it again to you moving forward, they'll keep track.

1292
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: On the Board of Governors itself, they're currently seventeen women

1293
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: among the fifty one members, making up thirty three percent

1294
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: of the board, which has the ultimate authority in determining

1295
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: Academy policies. Boone Oajacs is the only African American on

1296
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: the board.

1297
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: You don't say fifty one people.

1298
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: One black woman.

1299
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: The changes were approved unanimously by the Border Governors on

1300
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: Thursday night. The Academy said in announcing the changes, they

1301
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: were developed by Boone Isaacs and the board members Ship

1302
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,919
Speaker 2: and Academy and committee chaired by Phil Robertson, who represented

1303
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 2: the writer's branch of the Border.

1304
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 5: Governors, right, because they're feeling that pressure, and the pressure

1305
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 5: meets the pressure actually means more to them than it

1306
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 5: does the fucking voters. Like they don't realize, like they're

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 5: the ones getting the scrutiny, not the actual people that's

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01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 5: casting the fucking votes.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 5: So they was like, Nah, we gotta make some changes,

1311
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 5: and we gotta do this shit without y'all because y'all

1312
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 5: are the problem, because y'all will never y'all will never

1313
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 5: even consider certain shit. So we have to we have

1314
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 5: to kind of make it more diverse so that certain

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 5: things would even get considered.

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Speaker 1: Even if it doesn't win, at least getting mother fucking considered.

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01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: And explaining to the members of new rules regarded voting rights,

1318
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: she said, we have no reason to believe this will

1319
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 2: affect you your receiving screeners, and underline this will not

1320
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: affect voting for this year's Oscars. It will not. It

1321
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: was not immediately clear how many of the organizations six thousand,

1322
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty one voting members would lose eligibility

1323
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: to vote under the old rules. The announcement also raised

1324
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: a question of how the Academy will define being active

1325
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: in motion pictures and what process it will use to

1326
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: review members eligibility for voting rights. Ultimately, the Board of

1327
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: Governors will rule on the status of individual members, with

1328
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: input from the branch executive committees. Also, they said, which

1329
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 2: is so funny, because it's just such such a truism

1330
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 2: about critics. They had to be like, hey, you'll still

1331
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: receive your free screeners, okay, So even if you don't

1332
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: get a vote, you still get to get all the

1333
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 2: free moves at your house.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

1335
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: Old people don't get mad, right, right. So that's what

1336
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: a lot of people are.

1337
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: In it for, the access to that kind of shit

1338
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: right before it comes out.

1339
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 2: So The Hollywood Reporter also spoke with some OSCAR voters

1340
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 2: in the wake of the Academy's dramatic and controversial announcement

1341
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: about which members can and cannot vote in the Oscars.

1342
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: Let's see who are they talked to.

1343
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 2: Supporters have been have been most open with their reaction.

1344
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Aver de Verne, a member of the Director's Branch who

1345
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 2: controversially did not receive a director nomination for Someone last year, tweeted,

1346
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 2: one good step and a long complicated journey for people

1347
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: of color and women artists. Shame is a hell of

1348
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: a motivator. Where all we've all felt shame, even when

1349
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 2: we didn't believe we were wrong. It's the fact that

1350
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: everyone else thinks you're wrong. Fix it mode kicks in.

1351
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 2: Marginalized artists have advocated for Academy change for decades, actual

1352
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: campaign calls voiced from the stage, deaf ears, closed minds.

1353
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 2: Whether it's shame, true feelings, or being drag kicking and screaming,

1354
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: just get it done because the alternative isn't pretty right. However,

1355
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: of the wirecross section of members with whom The Hollywood

1356
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 2: Reporter spoke on Friday and Saturday, far more were displeased

1357
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: with the move than pleased with it, insisting that the

1358
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: Academy's older members were being unfairly scapegoaded notes from the

1359
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: soon to be retired Peanut Gallery was a subject line

1360
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: of an email for one long time member of the

1361
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: writer's brand, who credits all came from the nineteen seventies.

1362
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm an obvious candidate, he acknowledged, which does not bother

1363
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: me too much. But I have voted often for Denzel Washington,

1364
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: Holly Berry, Samuel Jackson, and other people of color. As such,

1365
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: a procedure does raise the question of the nature of

1366
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: the Academy. Is it members Is its membership based on

1367
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: mariort and accomplishments or in tuneus with all that is

1368
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: currently popular.

1369
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, all out of funding. A lot of these people

1370
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 5: are very, very out of touch, and that's the problem.

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 5: It's a lot of movies that you today wouldn't even

1372
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 5: goddamn consider because it's just not their genre. And we

1373
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 5: talked about that, how critics just have their fucking favorites,

1374
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 5: and I think the quote unquote the common Man Academy

1375
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 5: would drive them up the wall.

1376
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you expect me to believe. Jennifer Lawrence is always

1377
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: an Oscar Award winning, always always Oscar.

1378
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 4: She needs to be nominated every year for that performances

1379
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 4: that she gives.

1380
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: Come on, dog, nah man.

1381
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: It is about a club. It is about nepotism, it's

1382
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: about social nepotism. And now you're being kind of exed

1383
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: out and you're being told you're not gonna be on

1384
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: the end crowd.

1385
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 4: By the way, I make no, I have no sympathy

1386
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 4: for these people.

1387
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: And also, I make no, I don't have a lot

1388
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: of optimism just because they're younger, more active members are

1389
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: voting that suddenly those people won't be.

1390
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 4: As racially tom deaf.

1391
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: As the older people. I mean, correct, it can still.

1392
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: You know, most of Bernie's voters seem to be young

1393
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: white people, and they're just as racially tom deaf as

1394
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: anybody else. So it's it's not necessarily an age thing.

1395
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: But if you're not even active in movies, what the

1396
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 2: fuck are you sitting around doing?

1397
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 19: Right?

1398
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 4: Your opinion? Like the opinion really doesn't matter anymore.

1399
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: Who ain't been doing nothing?

1400
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, and vote?

1401
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 2: And the whole point of the oscars is being culturally

1402
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: in tune and current. I'm sorry, that's why people care.

1403
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: They don't, They don't. No one goes, well, what did

1404
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: that ninety year old do think about that movie? Nobody does? Sorry,

1405
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: but people just go by the movies they saw that

1406
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: year and the current perceptions of how things are going.

1407
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 2: Y'all aren't picking timeless classics and shit. I'm as a

1408
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 2: member who has stepped partially away from the industry, it

1409
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: feels like someone like me is being victimized. I'm in

1410
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: the mentoring phase of my life. I teach, so I'm

1411
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: now supposed to not be relevant, even though I'm being

1412
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: as relevant and working with young artists as people who

1413
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 2: have current credits are. And by the way, I've contributed

1414
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: a lot of time to the Academy as a judge

1415
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: for the Nickel Fellowships and Student Academy Awards.

1416
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 4: So basically they're saying that I don't matter anymore.

1417
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: It seems like this is a hastily put together reaction

1418
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: to a firestorm, and you know what, and to me,

1419
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: let's just keep it real.

1420
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 5: A lot of this is I'm old, I've done shit

1421
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 5: in my past, and the shit I've done in the

1422
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 5: past shit stand the test of time. Yep, when at

1423
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 5: the end of the day, nobody cares, and they don't

1424
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 5: want to admit that nobody cares.

1425
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Sam Wiseman who said that. One who else,

1426
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: tab Hunter eighty four said. A member of the Actors

1427
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: Ranch who's a member of the Actors branch concurred, Colin

1428
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: the Academy award the announcement bullshit, he elaborated, Obviously, it's

1429
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 2: a thinlyvil ploy to kick out older white contributors the

1430
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,879
Speaker 2: backbone of the We're talking about the backbone of the industry,

1431
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: to make way for younger, politically correct keep putting quote voters.

1432
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 4: The Academy should not care.

1433
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 2: It came into media hype and change the rules without

1434
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: talking to or getting votes from all the members. First.

1435
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 5: They didn't because they know y'all don't give a fuck

1436
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 5: and nothing will change.

1437
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all put these votes up right, so it's nothing

1438
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: to talk about. The documentary branch members Arnold Schwartzman, an

1439
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: Oscar winner for nineteen eighty two Genocide, was aggrieved on

1440
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: behalf of his fellow members angry and I'm all right,

1441
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: I've got my Oscar, But what about all these people

1442
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: that were elected to the Academy because they are skilled,

1443
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 2: but who never got an Oscar nomination? He continued, I

1444
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: just resent being characterized by some people as a racist.

1445
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 4: We well, you volunteered it motherfucker.

1446
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 8: We don't know you.

1447
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 4: We judged our marriage.

1448
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: There were some great films with white people that didn't

1449
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: get in that I was upset about. Race had nothing

1450
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: to do with any of it. Yeah, we didn't. It's

1451
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: not like we let in all the films. We didn't

1452
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: let any films with brown people in it. And there

1453
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: was also some white films that didn't get in. Right

1454
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: about Executive branch member Marsha and that side of eighty nine,

1455
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 2: who was recent de has worked as an independent producer,

1456
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: asked what the word active even means in the odds

1457
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: of the Academy.

1458
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 4: Someone has to answer that question.

1459
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: It sometimes takes ten years to get a movie made

1460
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: when you work on it as a producer, So what

1461
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: does this mean for producers?

1462
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 4: Mike Mattavoice says, thank god, I'm active.

1463
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: He's seventy five. Also of the executive branch, he said

1464
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: to the new member requirers, my feeling is generally that

1465
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: they're fair. There are a lot of members that got

1466
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: in because at the time there were executives. But if

1467
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 2: you haven't been active for over ten years, then you're

1468
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: not active. It seems to me you have to justify

1469
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 2: your membership. He questioned, though, if the changes would impact

1470
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: diversity of the academy selections, you can keep adding members

1471
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: pack it like the Supreme Court during the Franklin D.

1472
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: Roosevelt administration. But I don't think that answers the question.

1473
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: I also don't think that the boy Oscar ceremony called

1474
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,520
Speaker 2: on by some is a good idea because it diminishes

1475
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: the rest of the people at the Academy. Yeah. Well,

1476
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: we've been diminished in our selections or lack of selections

1477
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: on stage, so somebody already being diminished, and I don't

1478
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: want to show up and support that. Come on, a

1479
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: member of the music branch, you wish to remain. Anonymous

1480
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: suggested that the move has far more bark than it

1481
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: has bite.

1482
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 4: I don't know how many.

1483
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: People is actually going to affect, he said, noting she

1484
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: said noting that the majority of old Thomas were invited

1485
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: after being nominated, although some got in under rules that

1486
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: used to allow people with questionable condid just to become

1487
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: a member upon receiving a recommendation of two other members.

1488
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 4: Lee Castle, an agent.

1489
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: YEA, some of them old folks got in here because

1490
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: of who they do.

1491
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, one person saying I'm on the kit. I'm kind

1492
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 2: of on the fence about it and trying to look

1493
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: at both sides. I go to the Academy a lot.

1494
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: There are some people there that shouldn't be voting. They're

1495
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: very elderly, and they don't look as if they can

1496
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 2: really judge what's in today's market.

1497
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: That way, it has some merit.

1498
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: But there are some people that are ninety years old

1499
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they're perfectly vibrant and very much with it.

1500
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 2: And while they may be retired, it doesn't mean they

1501
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 2: aren't functioning on all cylinders. They have earned the privilege

1502
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: of being in the Academy through their work, and just

1503
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: because they're no longer active doesn't mean they can't be

1504
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 2: a good judge or what they're looking at. People were

1505
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 2: chosen on merit. Don't think it had anything to do

1506
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 2: with color. I mean I would have picked Will Smith

1507
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: for concussion. I think he did a marvelous job in that, and.

1508
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 4: It's very typical.

1509
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: But the reason that didn't get anywhere is the same

1510
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: reason that that truth didn't get anywhere.

1511
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 4: Money talks.

1512
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: But see, the thing is not trying to keep bringing

1513
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: real Smith up was terrible, y'all. It was bad. Yeah,

1514
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: it's like y'all not giving no good examples.

1515
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 2: I probably didn't see the other movies, that's true.

1516
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: They was like he black, so yeah he.

1517
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 4: Did you know Coogler for director? You know, like they don't.

1518
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 4: They probably don't know who directed Creed.

1519
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a lot of hurt feelings, a

1520
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: lot of hurt, a lot of ad l tears, yes,

1521
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: crocodile tears just going down their faces. So you know,

1522
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: they was mad that this decision being made and not

1523
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,799
Speaker 2: being made by them, right.

1524
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: Because why should we consult you?

1525
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 5: Is that they're going because the way y'all vote, we

1526
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 5: had to do this, So why would we come to

1527
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 5: the people who made us have to make the decision

1528
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: because all you voted was white people two years in

1529
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 5: a row.

1530
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: My favorite thing of all this stuff, and I said

1531
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: that for last is actor Matt Damon says Hollywood must

1532
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: do more to support diversity, except for the.

1533
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: Black woman you look to in her face and told

1534
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: her that it didn't matter.

1535
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey man, we picked diverse women to play prostitutes

1536
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: and stuff in our films.

1537
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 4: I don't understand what the problem is.

1538
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: Slaves, those are the only roads that matters.

1539
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: Matt Damon says the movie business has a long, long,

1540
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: long way to go when it comes to diversity. We're

1541
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 2: talking about Hugh systemic injustices around race and gender that

1542
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 2: are a lot bigger than the oscars. They're massive issues

1543
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: in our industry and in our country. But yeah, he said,

1544
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 2: it's a wonderful first step. But that's what it is,

1545
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 2: a first step. So we'll see what happens.

1546
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 5: I don't believe you, sir, and I don't know because

1547
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 5: of that bullshit. He and I never really do this.

1548
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 5: He's on my I don't think I ever watched another

1549
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 5: movie with you in it list because I was so

1550
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 5: furious with that.

1551
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen The Mars. I don't. I don't care

1552
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 1: how good or how much of a comedy.

1553
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 5: I'm not watching that movie because it's just one of

1554
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 5: those things where it is just amazing on how oblivious

1555
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 5: you are and how you sit down that black woman's

1556
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 5: face and told her that bullshit.

1557
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: Fuck you.

1558
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: Sir responded to that that.

1559
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: That segment by saying that that statement was taken out

1560
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: of context.

1561
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: By the way.

1562
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably go see if he do Born Again,

1563
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 2: Maybe go see that ship. I don't think I'll go

1564
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: see anything else. But anyway, I'm not trying to convince you.

1565
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't I don't care. I go to the movies

1566
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: by myself all.

1567
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: The time, you know what I'm saying, y'all.

1568
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 4: But I couldn't see the Martian, so who knows.

1569
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: I wish you to win up there and stayed. I

1570
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: don't even know what happened, but I stayed, he didn't

1571
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: really go to Mars.

1572
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, here's here's one story. And I'm not

1573
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: gonna cover the whole thing because it's literally too long

1574
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: to read, and I just encourage everybody to go read

1575
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: it themselves. BuzzFeed published this really good article by Anita Badejo.

1576
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: It's called our Hands are Tied because of this damn

1577
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: brotherhood sisterhood thing, and it talks about how students as Spelman,

1578
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 2: the historically black women's college in Atlanta, and you know,

1579
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: they have the brother University Morehouse, right, and it's always

1580
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: been this like brother sister relationship they're supposed to have. Well,

1581
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 2: how there's been decades of sexual assault committed by students

1582
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: from Morehouse towards students that go to Spelman that have

1583
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 2: either gone unreported or covered up or not or not

1584
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 2: spoken about but now in the wake of petitions, protests,

1585
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 2: and a federal investigation. Uh, their messages are reading loud

1586
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: louder than ever. Why haven't we heard them? That's the

1587
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 2: like subtitle to all of it. But it goes in

1588
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: and it talks about specific instances where and how sexual

1589
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: assault is handled on campus. And I mean it's kind

1590
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: of like not shocking in the fact that it's campus

1591
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: sexual assault is extreme problem, and not just because of

1592
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 2: the numbers, but also because of just how it's systematically handled, righties. Yeah,

1593
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: it's very much a wilful like willfully trying to be

1594
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 2: ignorant and to get them out of the way, like, hey,

1595
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: let's just we can just get them, you know, get

1596
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 2: just taken care.

1597
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 4: Of and just cover it up, you know.

1598
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: And it goes through the sexual assaults of a couple

1599
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: of women and their personal stories, you know, with women

1600
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: that you know, one woman went to because they part

1601
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: of it is because of the universities Spellmen, uh and

1602
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: more House. They call them spell House almost because they're

1603
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be like, you know together, Uh. While Spellman

1604
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: the Women's University is fenced in. You know, it's like

1605
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: very much keep stay out of here. Get away from

1606
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: these women. You know, you sisters will learn, you know,

1607
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: to keep your lagers close.

1608
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 4: But it's very much like.

1609
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: A you know, a very well the you know, these

1610
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 2: women is gated and all this stuff. But with the men, uh,

1611
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: the university is not, you know, so right, and then

1612
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 2: they pair you when you come in with a man

1613
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 2: like this will be your brother from more House, and

1614
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: y'all are going, we expect this friend Yeah, we expect

1615
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: this friendship, this relationship to last for the time that

1616
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: at the university.

1617
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 4: You know, some people just last for a lifetime.

1618
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 2: You you'll be friends, you'll talk, you know, it's not

1619
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 2: necessarily supposed to be romantic, but it's supposed to be

1620
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: like your buddy, right, Okay, you look out for him,

1621
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 2: he looks out for you. Trying to promote that brotherhood,

1622
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: the sisterhood. But the problem is in when it comes

1623
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: to practice. When in practice it doesn't necessarily work that way.

1624
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 5: And I'm pretty sure for a percentage of the people

1625
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 5: nothing happens. But if you have somebody in their quote

1626
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 5: unquote assigned to.

1627
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 4: You, well, it doesn't mean you're going to hang out

1628
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 4: with them anything.

1629
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 2: It's just it's a lot of this ship is for show, okay.

1630
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 2: You know when I have my campus visit, you know

1631
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: with Feverel State, you know, the guy was like, I'm

1632
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: gonna take your son in church every week. And I

1633
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 2: was already thinking, like, I don't go to church every

1634
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: week at home, but I'm not doing this shit.

1635
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 4: But but it's for show, you know. It's what they

1636
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 4: think parents want to hear and all.

1637
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, I'm with you now. It's almost like

1638
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 1: the selling points.

1639
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of you know, it's part of the

1640
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: prestige of the universities, is that y'all had this pairing.

1641
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 2: But anyway, and I'm sure some of them do last

1642
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's all bullshit, but I'm sure and

1643
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: you know, the kids and in the vast majority of

1644
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: them probably like the day that that shit is over,

1645
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: it's like I'm not never seeing this nigga again.

1646
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, a lot of them they probably was like, okay, piece,

1647
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 5: you go your way, I go mine, Like there's no

1648
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 5: obligation here.

1649
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 16: You know.

1650
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 2: Maybe they do stuff to try to reinforce it, but

1651
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: you know, you can't make somebody be friends correct anyway.

1652
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 4: So but that's alwaysize the point, like she one of them.

1653
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: She went down her friends Morehouse brother, you know, his

1654
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: his room because she was going through some stressful shit

1655
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 2: and basically he took advantage of her. She said no

1656
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: at least twice he you know, forced himself on her anyway.

1657
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 2: Then she reported it to her campus at you know

1658
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: as Spelman. They told her because the sexual assault took

1659
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 2: place in Morehouse, she had to report it the Morehouse.

1660
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden they were like, you know,

1661
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 2: wipe our hands up it, We're done. So now Spelman's out.

1662
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 2: She goes back to Morehouse and the first thing they

1663
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 2: really did was have her sign something that was like

1664
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: you will never press charges with the actual police.

1665
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh yep, I bet she didn't even know she was

1666
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: signing it.

1667
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 4: No, she knew she was signing it. They made her

1668
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 4: put that.

1669
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: The thing is, if something happens to you at seventeen, eighteen,

1670
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: nineteen years old, and the people that are you're being

1671
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: told will look out for you, your brothers, the people

1672
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: that want to get to the bottom of this, that

1673
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: want to protect you and all the shit, and they're

1674
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: telling you, like, sign away your right to escalate this,

1675
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: you're not to mention in most cases, well, Act, and

1676
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: it goes on, it goes further, but let's just start

1677
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 2: with there. You might sign it, Yeah, because you're seventeen

1678
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: years old. Yeah, you're thinking it'll be handled somehow in

1679
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: house and they'll take care of it. He'll be kicked out,

1680
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: he'll be he'll go to jail some some repercussions. So

1681
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: plus you're young, right, you know young, so, and it's

1682
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 2: overwhelming to even have to report this shit. It's almost

1683
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: out of your hands. You don't necessarily know what your

1684
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: rights are and aren't. And you know, and so these

1685
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: people are supposed to be guiding you, helping you, right, So,

1686
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: so you.

1687
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: Assuming that they have your best interest at heart.

1688
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: Right, and they just had a university's best interest in mine.

1689
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Come on, so they tell you know, they got her

1690
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 2: to sign that her right away, to do that basically,

1691
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: then they're like, we'll look into it with this guy.

1692
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: They look into it.

1693
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: What to dude, And.

1694
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 2: They like, like, typically title none says you need to

1695
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: investigate these things. I want to say, within thirty or

1696
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: sixty days, they don't get to her. She didn't even

1697
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: get to her case as far as and this is

1698
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: just not criminal court, this is just the school.

1699
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 4: Just a board of her peers.

1700
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 13: Uh.

1701
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 4: So the only punishment that can happen is like expelsion,

1702
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 4: expulsion from the school or community service.

1703
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: Or something like that, right, which is not real punishment. Right.

1704
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: So that takes a year, basically half a year. They

1705
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 2: took a half a year, over a half a year

1706
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: something like that for her to even get that.

1707
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 11: Uh.

1708
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: They're supposed to render a judgment within twenty four hours.

1709
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 2: They didn't get to her till until a week later.

1710
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: They told her basically like, ain't sure we can do

1711
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 2: about it, right, we decided that you would not assaulted.

1712
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1713
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 2: And during her her hearing, they were asking questions like

1714
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 2: what she was wearing, why did she even go over

1715
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 2: there at night, all that stuff. So then she was,

1716
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, very hurt by this, and she decided to

1717
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 2: go to the police on campus about it. They had

1718
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: lost her initial report of it. They didn't even have

1719
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: record of it. Oh my god, so she had to

1720
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: foil a new report that this of this thing that

1721
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 2: happened a year ago. Uh oh yeah, And then they

1722
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: uh talk with her. They talked with him even though

1723
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: they determined and and by the way, campus police have

1724
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 2: to escalate it up to local police. So the campus

1725
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: police that during their investigation, nothing happened.

1726
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 4: That's the end of it.

1727
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: There's no well, I'll just go to the Atlanta police,

1728
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 2: you know, in addition to the fact you already signed

1729
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: that away. They're like, yeah, whatever, we decide, that's that's

1730
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: how it ends. So unless we tell the Atlanta police

1731
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: that this is a criminal action, you need to come

1732
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 2: get involved.

1733
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 11: No.

1734
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 4: So they also gave her a.

1735
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 2: I want to say, an out of state like counsel

1736
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: or something like a person that's supposed to look at

1737
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: her case and stuff.

1738
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 4: He talked to her, He owed the phone one time.

1739
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 4: He talked to the.

1740
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: Dude on the phone, and he said he determined that

1741
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: nothing happened, and he was using the rules that more

1742
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: House has in their student guidelines and basically said that, hey,

1743
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: even though they say they have zero tolerance, even though

1744
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: they say no means no. Even though she said she

1745
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: said no twice at least, and the guy said she

1746
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: said no twice at least, they determined that because during

1747
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: sex at one point she was on top. Therefore they

1748
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: decided that it couldn't be right. Yep. They also.

1749
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 4: What was the other thing they did?

1750
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: Oh, so so once they determined that. Then the police

1751
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: decided that it wasn't ripe either. But he did get

1752
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: in trouble. He got forty hours of community service and

1753
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 2: I can't and in a mandatory sexual harassment sexual assault

1754
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 2: online course that he had to take, and that was

1755
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 2: you know, and this is a school that encourages activism

1756
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: and stuff like this and forward thinking. So a lot

1757
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: of these women are now speaking up and they're standing

1758
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: out and stuff, and it's you know, like I said,

1759
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: it's a really good read. It took me a while

1760
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 2: to read it because very long. But for all the

1761
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: people to just think of sexual assault as trying to

1762
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 2: get over, trying to try to set me up, like

1763
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: a lot of these people need to read that, you know.

1764
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 4: And it's still this culture is still pervasive, still going

1765
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 4: on today.

1766
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 2: A lot of it was sparked by one of the

1767
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: pictures in this article is a picture of a more

1768
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: House guy who wrote a sex contract for women to

1769
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 2: uh and it got somehow they got someone got their

1770
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: hands on it and they posted a picture of It's

1771
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: called grave sexual consent form. It's written in you know,

1772
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 2: hand it's hand written. It says I whole signature Allow

1773
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Graves resident, your name in room number, room number to

1774
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: perform any and all sexual behavior on me from the

1775
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: time I walk in time to the time I leave

1776
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,959
Speaker 2: and visitation is over. By signing this I host signature

1777
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 2: will not spread misleading truths and or ignominious lies. If

1778
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 2: found in violation of this consent form, my whole signature

1779
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 2: will be indicate, indicted, and prosecuted accordingly, as well as

1780
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: be exposed. Cabbage wise as a line, bitch, image and

1781
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: integrity is value highly at more House, especially Grays Hall.

1782
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 4: By signing this I hoe and.

1783
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 2: Our Graves resident are keeping both host signature date Graves

1784
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Resident's date. So yeah, just let you know the mentality

1785
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 2: and this idea that you know that, oh we respect

1786
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 2: our sisters and shit, you know. And I guess the

1787
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 2: worst part of all of this was at the end

1788
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: of the day, the women were made to feel guilty

1789
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 2: because and not just your typical because it's already bad

1790
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: enough when there's the typical guilt of you's actually assaulted,

1791
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 2: how is it your fault? It's also this idea of like, well,

1792
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna ruin this young black man's life

1793
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 2: and put him in the system, and you can't have that.

1794
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you really want to ruin this man's life,

1795
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: not his actions that put him in the system, not

1796
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: the criminal act, not the fact that he victimized you.

1797
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: They're expecting you to take on not only the victimhood

1798
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 2: but also the guilt of what he did, so that

1799
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: you won't put him in jail, because we know that's

1800
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 2: the worst place for a black man to go, you know,

1801
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 2: not to mention how many other victims do some of

1802
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 2: these guys have, you know, like, uh, not to mention

1803
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, some of the stuff

1804
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 2: they want to do to these men is not even

1805
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 2: criminal shit. It's just kick him out of school. And

1806
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 2: it's still like, sister, you kick him out of school,

1807
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen?

1808
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 11: Then?

1809
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: Have you thought about him?

1810
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: You know, love him? Fuck him right?

1811
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 5: Fuck him the second he decided to go against me.

1812
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 5: It's one hundred percent of fuck you.

1813
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1814
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 2: It's like I said, it's an amazing read, and there's

1815
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 2: more than one story it's and it's difficulty. It's a

1816
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,759
Speaker 2: difficult read. Like I said, I have never been sexualists

1817
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 2: all this, so I don't have necessarily the triggers and

1818
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 2: stuff that maybe some people have because some people are like,

1819
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 2: I want to read it, but it's just too much,

1820
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,879
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, and I understand.

1821
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying like, just go read. It's important,

1822
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 4: you better read. I don't care what you feel. But

1823
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 4: for me personally, it was very important to read.

1824
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people will find it very

1825
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 2: important because it puts faces and names and stories to

1826
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 2: a lot of shit that we talk about vaguely. A

1827
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 2: lot of numbers we talk about statistically, but we don't

1828
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 2: we don't talk about the fact that those are people.

1829
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 2: And I think you know. And it also ties into

1830
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:27,560
Speaker 2: the Cosmi shit, the respectability politics of it. You know,

1831
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: Cosm modeled his healm in college off of spelmen, you

1832
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: know what I mean, for the different world. So like

1833
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff that people grew up worshiping,

1834
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 2: it can be very harmful when you look at the

1835
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,440
Speaker 2: fact that we're asking black women, as part of solidarity

1836
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: and sisterhood, to take on the fact that they're being

1837
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 2: sexually victimized by their brothers and be silent about it.

1838
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 5: Right, And it's also funny how that that demand is

1839
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 5: never put placed on men, right, that that the man

1840
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,759
Speaker 5: never placed the men you know, if man makes a decision,

1841
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 5: it's not Come on, brother, you made the decision.

1842
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: You got to consider this this woman.

1843
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 5: You know, all of a sudden, it's like for some reason,

1844
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 5: that burden is suspected to be placed upon that woman.

1845
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, I think, uh, I think that was

1846
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 2: pretty important. All right, let's get ahead and getting a

1847
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 2: guest the race, because I mean a hundred.

1848
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the whole show everything. Yeah, y'all didn't realize

1849
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 5: y'all was y'all have been playing the whole show.

1850
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 1: We didn't. We didn't realize it either. But yeah, the

1851
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: game and the whole show, and everybody got a hundred.

1852
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: One hundred for everything. Everybody, everyone got a hundred. If

1853
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: you listen to this a hundred mm hm, Lenda Brothers,

1854
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 2: is your birthday to day?

1855
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 4: A hundred dollars? All right, let's play some guests the race.

1856
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 6: It's time for some guests the race. That's right, This

1857
01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 6: guests the race time. Now that it is time, you

1858
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 6: want some guests the rays. That's right, this guest the

1859
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 6: race time.

1860
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 4: That's right.

1861
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: It's time for guests the raise the number one game

1862
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 2: show going across all the podcasts.

1863
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 4: Here we read the play news artist from all over

1864
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:14,719
Speaker 4: the globe.

1865
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: And we asked our contestants today the chat room to

1866
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 2: guess the rays send the chat room in is or

1867
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 2: racist and guess the race is brought to you by

1868
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 2: Bebo Bell was the person I was shaving system design

1869
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 2: specifically for course curly hair and sensitive skin. Step up

1870
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 2: your shave game and say goodbye to Raizor bumps. Beva

1871
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 2: also has a sleek looking new clipper Dog. It's not

1872
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 2: out yet, but you can go pre order that joint.

1873
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 3: Now.

1874
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 2: The code does not give you a discount on that yet.

1875
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're working on with us or whatnot,

1876
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: but you know, if it's anything like these raisors, it's

1877
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: gonna be off the hook. It's gonna be designed strictly

1878
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 2: for your face and worth every penny. Man, I I

1879
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 2: enjoy it, and especially when you know, I think about

1880
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 2: going to buy razors back at the old way. Man,

1881
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 2: you you go there, you gotta get a fucking person

1882
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 2: to come open up the things so you can buy

1883
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: some razors. Like what the fuck are people stealing razors for?

1884
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 2: Like there's a bunch of suicides going on out here

1885
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 2: nobody know about, man, Like just uh like I gotta ask,

1886
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 2: like a little kid, can you open this for me?

1887
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, feel like I'm back at Target buying video

1888
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 2: games again or some shit. Man, I'm just trying to

1889
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: shave my face like an adult, like a boss. But

1890
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 2: with this, you don't have to worry about that, because

1891
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Bebel comes to your house and neatly packaged uh you know, supplies,

1892
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 2: and you open it up baboom. You know, no, no, no,

1893
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 2: raising your hand and asking somebody who uh who's working

1894
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: at CBS to come over and help you out. None

1895
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 2: of that.

1896
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 4: So be an adult, get bebel by do you how

1897
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 4: do you get Bebel?

1898
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 2: You go to getbebbel dot com g E t B

1899
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: e v E L dot com co tbg do you

1900
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 2: get twenty percent off? And uh, I think you guys,

1901
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 2: we'll thank us for it later.

1902
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to some guessing of the racing.

1903
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: Police. A man defends himself with a sword against a

1904
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 2: shovel wilding woman.

1905
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 1: Oh, shut out, they're fighting in the snow.

1906
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 4: That's right, Karen, Oh wait, I forgot the volume was off.

1907
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 16: Couble before the homeowner kept her at bay with a sword.

1908
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 16: Officer to say that.

1909
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 4: Eighteen that's right, it's kind of is now in charge.

1910
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 16: With a felony tonight after police say that she forced

1911
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 16: her way into a home with a shovel before the

1912
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 16: homeowner kept her at bay with a sword. Officer say

1913
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 16: that eighteen year old Audrey Davis grabbed a shovel yesterday

1914
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 16: and then barge into a home there on the one

1915
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 16: thousand block of Ninth Street. That's when police said the

1916
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 16: people inside used a sword to force Davis out the door.

1917
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 2: Again.

1918
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 16: Once outside, police say Davis then used that shovel to

1919
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 16: damage someone's car. No word what led up to all this.

1920
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 16: She's now charged with felony residential one tree.

1921
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 14: All right, guys, shit, So she took the shovel, that

1922
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 14: was like I'm coming in there to day apparently, so

1923
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 14: guess the race of what was her name, Audrey C.

1924
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 4: Davis, shovel wielder against going against that sword?

1925
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 2: You know, I was wondering if there's gonna be any

1926
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 2: drama because of the blizzard everybody trapped inside. Maybe that's

1927
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 2: what the drama was. She came out with that shovel,

1928
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 2: and but it had to pull out the sword and go, you.

1929
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 4: Know, go ham ah.

1930
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: What was he doing with the sword outside? Though, that's

1931
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 2: my question, Like what was he shoveling snow with the sword?

1932
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 1: Like?

1933
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 5: Another think that said he got the sword, like she

1934
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 5: tried to come into the house, and then they child

1935
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 5: they used the sword to keep us from coming into

1936
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 5: the house.

1937
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 2: Uh, both of them were white enough to get lost

1938
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: in the snow, says BB one who blends in with

1939
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 2: the snow. As white as a snow. She used that

1940
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 2: shovel on as pure and white as a snow. That

1941
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 2: would know want to be shoveled. Ain't nothing in this

1942
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: world harder than a white woman in the Hollywood.

1943
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 8: White.

1944
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 2: She tried to break into Elon James White. I guess

1945
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 2: white black people netflix and chill during the snow. White.

1946
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 4: Well, the correct answer is in all of you got

1947
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 4: it wrong.

1948
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: She was black. Let that sad.

1949
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 4: Yes, boo the hell out of them. Y'all racist as hell?

1950
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 4: What's wrong with y'all? Black women don't go out in

1951
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 4: the snow no more. Damn y'all racist? Mm hm hmmm.

1952
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 4: Let's go to the next one. Racist sons of bitches.

1953
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 2: This man, this woman beat up her husband with nunchucks because.

1954
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 4: He refused to have sex with her. Oh shit, feminine

1955
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:03,919
Speaker 4: and just so fragile.

1956
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 2: A woman allegedly battered her husband with nunchucks because he

1957
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 2: refused to have sex with her. See it's why you

1958
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 2: shouldn't put women in the friend zone, guys. That's right,

1959
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 2: I'll be saying y'all arguing in the chat, you know,

1960
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 2: at the Facebook group. What's wrong with y'all?

1961
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1962
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 2: Sondra Earl Kelly fifty one is alleged first to have

1963
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 2: her ceramic figurines at her lover when he refused to

1964
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 2: stop watching TV and go to bed with her. Well,

1965
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 2: that's one way to get him in bed, get him

1966
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 2: in the mood. I throw ceramic figurines at your ass, right,

1967
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: that get your dig card? Nobody wants to have sex

1968
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 2: with somebody to own ceramic finger INDs. Come on, let's

1969
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 2: be honest. Then she reportedly grabbed a pair of nun

1970
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 2: chucks and began to beat them with them.

1971
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 1: Ah aesus, shit got real?

1972
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are they even doing with nunchucks sitting sitting

1973
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,839
Speaker 4: around at that time where they ceramic?

1974
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 6: There?

1975
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 2: All right, ship, baby, come get in the bed with me. No,

1976
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm watching the game. I mean no, I'm watching the game.

1977
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 8: Oh baby, what are you doing?

1978
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 4: Listen? You can put those down. The game will be

1979
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 4: off in a couple of minutes.

1980
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 2: Please, baby, don't oh god, oh ouch, okay, listen, I

1981
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 2: will give you.

1982
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: Some dick please. Just kidding everybody.

1983
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to imagine she was using them like

1984
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 2: Bruce Lee and enter the Dragon.

1985
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I am there for it.

1986
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm not there for domestic violence.

1987
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 2: Ever. Police found blood on the walls of the couple's apartment.

1988
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 2: That's the other thing.

1989
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: Pick the hell out of hell.

1990
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Nunchucks are dangerous as fuck. They like nunchucks are so

1991
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 2: dangerous they hurt you for trying to learn.

1992
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because I've used them before you and I

1993
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 5: popped myself one of two times.

1994
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck this shit. I mean no, no,

1995
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm not there for the I go back. I'm not

1996
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: there for the domestic violence aspect. But I just not

1997
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: got that. No, I'm not den for that.

1998
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 8: That's what you said.

1999
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 1: You say that bad.

2000
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 5: I mean I'm there for like the music you had

2001
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 5: playing and yeah, and the yellow and black suits.

2002
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm not there for the beat.

2003
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 4: And see, you don't have to classy, I know what

2004
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 4: you mean.

2005
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 2: Earl Kelly, who was also who was also said to

2006
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 2: have taken a tranquilizer tablet over the course of the

2007
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 2: evening as a charge of aggravated domestic violence.

2008
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: Tree clouds a tablet.

2009
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 4: She spent the night in Charlotte, South Carolina. Police self.

2010
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 4: That's a Charlotte, South Carolina learned something every day.

2011
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do guess the race of Sandra Earl Kelly

2012
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 2: fifty one years old. Let's see what the chat room believes. Wait,

2013
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 2: nunchucks could be negroes as white as the baby batter

2014
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 2: she wanted for him. She wanted him to beat it

2015
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 2: up so she could beat him up. White one who

2016
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 2: has to carefully pronounce ninja to avoid unnecessary uses. Whiter

2017
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 2: than the walls of that trailer. Go Ninja, Go ninja,

2018
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 2: Go Asian cerramit figurina, nunchucks. Well, the potato faced man,

2019
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:21,719
Speaker 2: name's Donkey white, Vernita green, black, wigedy black white.

2020
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 4: She wanted to go cal Bonga on the d white,

2021
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 4: not miss Vernon.

2022
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 2: Oh, yet only Asian people have ninja weapons readily available.

2023
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: That's black robes. She knew how to use nunchucks to Asian.

2024
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 2: She knew all the words the goodbye Earl. I bet

2025
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:49,640
Speaker 2: the correct answer is she was white. Some of you

2026
01:44:49,720 --> 01:45:06,759
Speaker 2: missed it all right. A frostbitten fifteen month old girl

2027
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 2: was left in a car overnight.

2028
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 4: The dad has been arrested.

2029
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 2: Oh yep, fifteen months old left in the car overnight

2030
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 2: by her daddy.

2031
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 11: Milton Man is accused of leaving his baby in a

2032
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 11: freezing car during a drug fueled binge. Twenty nine year

2033
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 11: old Michael Dufour pleaded not guilty in court today. Officers

2034
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 11: believe he was high on meth and heroine when he

2035
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 11: left his fifteen month old daughter inside a car on Saturday.

2036
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 11: Temperatures dipped to twenty six degrees that night. The girl

2037
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 11: is in the hospital. She suffered minor frostbite to her hands.

2038
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 4: Meth and heroin, dy no behin.

2039
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 2: It's going for the record. The fuck.

2040
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 4: That's the race, chat room.

2041
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 2: That was a quick one. The race. What's his name?

2042
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 2: Michael A.

2043
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 6: Du four?

2044
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 4: All right, let's see what they say.

2045
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 2: Meth, white says ratchet assist Milton. That man white as

2046
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 2: hell oscar rot ha meth. Come on, man, frosty the

2047
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 2: white man. Oh he White brothers leave their kids while

2048
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,799
Speaker 2: completely sober, White white squared.

2049
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what the big deal is. White kids

2050
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:18,759
Speaker 4: love frozen.

2051
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 2: White, white as the first, why is the frosty left

2052
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 2: on that baby?

2053
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 4: A black father wouldn't have been around him? Again with damn,

2054
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 4: you can't blame this one on swifty in d money.

2055
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 2: They wouldn't leave their babies in the car white, white,

2056
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 2: trailer trash, white, trailer park trash, white, Walter White's first customer. White.

2057
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 2: The baby may be blue beforehand, but she was white. Correct,

2058
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 2: that's his white. Nobody missed that one. All right, let's

2059
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 2: go the bonus round.

2060
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 8: Double up, the double up, and the race.

2061
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 2: That's right, double the points, double the race in the

2062
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 2: balus round.

2063
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 4: I guess the race.

2064
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 2: So far, everybody's all over the place. But let's see

2065
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 2: how they end not in everything double. I think the

2066
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,759
Speaker 2: chat room was getting a little nervous. A former daycare

2067
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 2: worker is in trouble.

2068
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 4: That's right, guys.

2069
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: You know how it is.

2070
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 4: It's never good when you start with former daycare worker.

2071
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 11: No, you know.

2072
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a former for a reason.

2073
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, used to let you look at the kids. Now

2074
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 4: not so much.

2075
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 16: Guilty verdict for a former daycare provider who abused toddlers

2076
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:52,839
Speaker 16: at a Woodbridge daycare.

2077
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: I'm out Olonga and I'm Leslie Foster.

2078
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 21: Sarah Jordan's sprayed water. It's scared children.

2079
01:47:58,840 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: She encouraged them to fight.

2080
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 21: All of this at the Miniland Academy, at the Glenn Daycare.

2081
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 21: Sarah chen has been following this case. She's in the courtroom.

2082
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: She joins us now live in the Nassis with.

2083
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 21: More on the breaking news. Say well, Leslie and Adam,

2084
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 21: we're talking about one and two year old children who

2085
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 21: were abused. Sarah Jordan now faces decades in jail. And

2086
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 21: I saw parents wipe away tears as the judge read

2087
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 21: his verdict. One father tells me his son was made

2088
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 21: to fight in what prosecutors call a baby fight club.

2089
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 13: Shit, realie, realief Enjoy.

2090
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:38,719
Speaker 21: Blake Buckner, reacting to the guilty verdict. Sarah Jordan faces

2091
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 21: forty one years in jail.

2092
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 13: Hopefully she gets it all.

2093
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 21: Buckner's five year old son was encouraged to fight among

2094
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 21: his friends.

2095
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 16: The teacher was making him.

2096
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 21: You know the class bullet pretty much your reaction when

2097
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 21: the prosecutor said a baby fight club.

2098
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, it really hurt.

2099
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 16: You know.

2100
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: I was trying to hold back to tears the whole

2101
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 1: time while I was in there was just the emotion.

2102
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: It was very deep.

2103
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 21: Social Services report that Sarah Jordan targeted children scared of water,

2104
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 21: put the hose on high pressure and sprayed the toddlers

2105
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 21: in their face, and would dump buckets of water over

2106
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 21: children and her co defendant would laugh. She stepped on

2107
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 21: toddler's toes and tripped them, even told a girl she

2108
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 21: was ugly and looked like a rat. Motivation for physically

2109
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 21: and emotionally abusing the children entertainment. Those in the courtroom

2110
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 21: who associated with Jordan didn't want to talk. Buckner says

2111
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 21: it was hard to sit through the trial hearing about

2112
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 21: his son made a fight and being dumped with water.

2113
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 13: Yes, it pissed me off. I mean, she knows what

2114
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 13: she did and then, and I'm just glad that justice spare.

2115
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 21: Buckner says his now five year old son is doing

2116
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 21: well at another daycare, hoping to not have to think

2117
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 21: of the abuse his son and dured two and a

2118
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 21: half years ago.

2119
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 16: It really pleased me and it touched me, and I'm

2120
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 16: glad that she's in jail.

2121
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 21: The defense argued that this was just the terrible twos

2122
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 21: and that's why parents were their children act out. The

2123
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 21: judge didn't buy it, revoked bond and sent Jordan to

2124
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 21: jail now. Her co defendant, Kiera Spriggs is accused of

2125
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 21: similar mistreatment, including forcing kids to eat flaming hot Cheetos

2126
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 21: and enjoying that reaction. Her jury trial is next month.

2127
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 21: Liva Manasis sirach in w USA nine.

2128
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: In this case is just amazing, Thank you, siray.

2129
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 11: At least eight parents have hired a lawyer and are

2130
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 11: considering a civil lawsuit against Minyland.

2131
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 5: Well, holy shit, I'm grown and flaming hot Cheetos is

2132
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 5: a lot.

2133
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 2: They definitely violated the first ruler fight club. I mean

2134
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 2: they talked, Yeah, first rule of Tyler Fight Club as

2135
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 2: you don't babble about Tyler fight Club.

2136
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 4: Everybody knows that.

2137
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though they can't babel.

2138
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: Let's see what the chat room says. Tyler Durdon's sister.

2139
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Rule number one about Baby fight Club. You don't talk

2140
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 2: about Baby fight Club. White. You're gonna earn your money

2141
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 2: around here. Black hood bugger, black black woman? Was John

2142
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 2: just trying to raise the next Floyd Mayweather's ungrateful parents. Black.

2143
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: I hope she has an allergic reaction to her quick

2144
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 2: weave blue and dyes hot cheetos. Black. Damn. I hate

2145
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:19,040
Speaker 2: to say black but black baby Django's unstroller precious Mama

2146
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 2: got a daycare job. Her hurt my soul. But yeah,

2147
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 2: she's a sister of black flaming hot Cheetos. Changing that

2148
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 2: the black she earned her childcare license. That go on

2149
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 2: tilam obey. You could tell she's black because of the

2150
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 2: flaming hot Cheetos though, from Pitt Bulls to Tyler's Mike

2151
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 2: Viggers evolving black. Damn she's black, yo. All y'all went

2152
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 2: were black, I think except for Lennard Brothers. All y'all

2153
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:48,480
Speaker 2: went with black. And it's fitting because it's Leonard Brother's birthday.

2154
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 2: She was white.

2155
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 1: The rest of y'all wrong.

2156
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 2: That's right, Koge nigger is your birthday to you? Messed up,

2157
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 2: but good for you. Lenner Brothers, Man, I don't know

2158
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 2: how Linda got that one. I would have missed it too.

2159
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 2: Even her friend that showed up at the fucking trial

2160
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 2: was black. Let's do that.

2161
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 4: Get out of my face? Like what who does she

2162
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 4: hang out with?

2163
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 15: That?

2164
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 4: Feel like that's partially on us, you know.

2165
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 7: What I mean?

2166
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Speaker 1: She must have been the one every time, but it

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01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: was laughing and ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is you know, sometimes we hang out white

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01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 2: people and we just let them get away with too

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01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 2: much anyway, sore ratchiness.

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Speaker 1: Some pole kid's gonna see the flaming Chito thing and

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01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 1: run fucking me up too.

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Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Dead Tyler Fight Club, Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: Man caught with meat cleaver and sword at Gellette Stadium

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01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: held on seventeen k ball and out of state man

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01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: accused of threatening multiple people with in the rare weapons

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Speaker 2: outside of the Gillette Stadium this weekend has been ordered

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Speaker 2: to held on seventeen five hundred dollars cash bell. The

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01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 2: Foxborough Police Department received multiple calls reporting a man threatening

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01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 2: people in the employee parking lot of the Gellette Stadium

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Speaker 2: Friday morning, two hours prior to the start of the

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01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,879
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen went to classic hockey game between the Boston

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Speaker 2: Bruins and the Montreal Canadians. Police say they found a

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01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 2: man with several weapons on this person, including a meat cleaver,

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01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,040
Speaker 2: a large sword, and a stun gun. Shit Matthew you

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01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 2: Bronson of North Grandby, Connecticut was arrested on charges of

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Speaker 2: assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, trespassing, and the

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01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 2: legal possession of a stun gun. He reportedly went to

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01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 2: Gillette on Friday, it helps with buying the last minute

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01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: ticket to the Bruins Canadians game, but decided they were

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01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: too expensive. During his arraignment, well it's not he's expensive

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01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 2: a seventeen thousand, five hundred dollars, They report that the

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01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 2: forty eight year old man laugh smiled, shook his head

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01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: wild before the judge. Bronson was arranged on seventy five

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 2: hundred dollars cash bell for charges over the weekend and

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01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars cash Bell for being a fugitive from Connecticut.

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01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 2: CBS Boston reports he has a long police record at

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Speaker 2: his home state.

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Speaker 4: What was he laughing about? Hey, it's crazy to me too, man, sit,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I was thinking. This is wild.

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Speaker 2: Ah A, all right man, We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: Until then, I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you too.

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Speaker 8: Nah