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Yo, what's 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:16.440 going on? 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.640 We're back in Indie and it's not as cold this time, 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:19.440 so I'll take it. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:20.959 The Big Eye is what people are calling now. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.640 It's game day for Michigan and Yukon. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.240 Yukon, who do you have? 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:29.200 I'm staying in the Michigan Hotel, so I kind of feel. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.360 Like I like that I gotta do it. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.600 Honestly, I think like two or three weeks ago, I 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.720 would have seriously said Yukon would have had it. But 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.839 now watching Michigan, oh yeah, those are just big boys 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.920 that are pros. I think I'm going Michigan. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.880 They beat a one seed by thirty points. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.040 If I was a betting woman, I would bet on Michigan. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:45.720 Yeah. But beautiful studio. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.080 Yeah, it looks good. We've got the trophy back here too. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.120 We'ly from a mariat. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.000 We've had some good studios that we've been shooting in 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.279 with our guests. We do have our last one today. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.480 We just came from Phoenix, YEP and had great pot 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.760 episodes and then today we're with Jay Williams, who Rocks. I' 0:01:58.800 --> 0:01:59.640 probably seen him on TV. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.000 I saw or heard the voice. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:02.840 Yeah, I actually saw him on TV this morning. I 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:03.520 turned ESPN on. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.080 We're excited to have him. He's gonna be a good one. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.080 So a lot of freaking okay, has that sound? 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.120 Let's talk some ball, well, fun tournament, a lot of 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.480 one seed supremacy, which I hate. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.760 It was like the things we're supposed to happen, you 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.800 know what it sounds like. The duke in Yukonton. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.760 That was like the biggest thing to me for sure, 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.000 the biggest moment of the attorney. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:22.440 Yeah, but you need those. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.360 Actually, I would say round one and two there were 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.280 a few little uppy sets. Uppy sets. I'm always a 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:27.720 fan of that. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.799 You're always going to have those upsets, but I always 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.280 want like underdog underdog to like around truly make it. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.440 We've talked about it before with l It's like way harder. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.520 Okay, But let's talk at a little Yukon Michigan forerial though. Okay, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.320 have you have you been keeping up with them a little? 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.359 I mean I watched Michigan dominate Arizona. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.120 Yeah, I watched Michigan with our sweet brother keV. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:47.840 Oh did you. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.919 Yeah, we went to a little bar in downtown Funds. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:50.560 That's fun. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.200 Every time we got wings and burgers, and every time 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.160 we'd look up at the TV, Michigan was like ally 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.240 looping from from like half court. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.800 Okay, here's my thing. And hopefully I'm not eating my words. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.840 But Yukon are phenomenal players, like I'm not trying to 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.560 take away from them whatsoever. Really good players, really good 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.560 systematic players. But compared to Michigan, Michigan just has a 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.560 bunch of hoopers who can just play. Yukon is going 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.440 to have people who go to the pros on thousand percent. 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.720 I'm not saying that. But Michigan has dogs, dogs who 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.400 are going to go to the Prosy, who just know 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.400 how the rhythm of the game. They don't need a system, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.160 they just know how to go get a bucket. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.120 Well, and like the biggest center in the bracket, I 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.959 was just kind of crazy. Yeah, you have spent a 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.919 lot of time in it, the great city of Indianapolis. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.160 I have what do you think the Final four brings 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.680 to the community. Weirdly enough, the final fours men's and 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:40.920 women's are like your home bases. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:41.600 This is that weird. 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:42.200 That is weird. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.000 Is it the Year of Me? Kind of so loves 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.400 I gotta get behind this. I feel like, honestly, the 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.680 w has done a great job of bringing a lot 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.120 of money into the state of Indiana. Okay, having a 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.040 men's Final four anywhere. I just think the restaurants thrive, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.600 the people around town that get excited, the gas, the hotels. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.960 I think the cities do a really good job having 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.760 people feel important, embracing them into their culture of Indiana, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.600 and people are showing out is packed here. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:14.680 One thing that's like underrated. Unlike a lot of major 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.360 sporting events where it's one event and then you go home, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.839 there's two games because it's the Final four, so you 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.720 have the Round four and then you have the championship. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.360 So there's four schools in town at once. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.000 Two of those teams, unfortunately, do lose, and they have 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.840 probably booked their flights and hotels assuming that they'd be 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.880 in the championship game, and then their whole job after 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.279 that is to hang out and just catch vibes. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:35.520 Okay, explore the city. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.200 Well that's what I was going to say. We just 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.360 had people in here from Arizona and they're still here 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.920 because they want to see the championship game. And so 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.840 you're right, they're just catching vibes. They're getting to see 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:47.120 the beautiful downtown Indianapolis, And so say, almost, go get 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:48.239 you some shrimp cocktail. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.440 Have you been a livery here? 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.200 I've not, thanks to the Mexican restaurant. Really, we had 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.440 a great time because we've been here. We were here 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.880 first Selection Sunday and now Final four. I was kind 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.200 of staying downtown, but last night we went and got 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.640 dinner like more in the not like in the suburbs. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.680 But it was like a ten minute uber. Yeah. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.640 I like to drive to a restaurant and just kind 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.360 of like scope out neighborhoods and field at home and 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.800 like there are a bunch of houses with like colts 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.200 flags and a cute little streets with like trees and 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:14.960 old stoops. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.320 Being back in the Midwest, we just love our sports. Yeah, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.080 like we love our sports. And I know that like 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.599 Indiana they won with their the football and I know 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.200 it's known for like a basketball state, but like everyone 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.640 is waving the flags, everyone is like wearing their colors, 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.440 and I absolutely love that about college sports culture in 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.279 the Midwest. So I think the coasts kind of lose 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:34.680 it a little bit, or they don't get it. They're 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:35.920 not fired up as much as we are. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.440 I would agree, and I mean it helps that there's 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:39.320 that they're good. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:40.320 Yeah. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.920 Yeah, because the Colts kind of caught on fire and 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:43.760 like people. 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.479 I was thinking about the Peyton Manning era and how 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.359 foot would have been to be here with with that 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.000 whole team, yeah, when they were rocking, trying to compete 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.480 with Tom Brady every single fall. Yeah, but for sure, 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.719 the Midwest is like the best place to be a 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:56.719 fan of any team ever. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.080 Wait, I have a I have some especially the fever. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.440 Wait, let's let's walk through. Okay, if you are a 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:07.120 fan and say your team was in the championship game, 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.159 what is your ideal day? Game is at nine pm tonight? 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.520 Oh so you have to like walk me through. When 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.200 you're waking up, what are you doing? Your friends are 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:15.880 in town, what's going on? I like this. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.320 I'm gonna try to be a little wholesome. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.400 I'm gonna wake up at like eleven, just a quick 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.839 thirty minute inclined walk downstairs in the treadmill. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.000 I was sweat out last night expecting that at all. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.920 And then I'm gonna I'm going to the hotel bar, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.280 break downstairs. Okay, have this beautiful mariat yep, and I'm 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.000 gonna wait for all the boys to come downstairs. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.000 Like noon twelve thirty. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.720 I think that's probably around one one okay, one lunch. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:35.680 Maybe we just. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.039 Wander around because we're not doing a big dinner because 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.000 we're gonna be ready to go to the game. So 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.320 maybe it's like a late lunch reservation. Stay there, drink 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.040 a little bit, bar hop because you're bar hopping during 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.160 the day and we're gonna come back, shower, put on 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.680 our collegiate clothing, and then head inside. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:49.159 I like that. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:50.960 And may I say before we head out of here, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:52.720 my water pressure pretty good? 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:53.160 Sick? 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.200 Yeah, it was good. It was really good. So salute 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.039 stayc was good too. I walked to my room and 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.240 I was like, west Wood, enjoy this. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:01.120 It's beautiful. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:01.320 Man. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.280 I woke up this morning, turned on ESPN because that's 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:09.520 what I do most mornings. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.440 Did you see a lovely, beautiful. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.040 Man in a dark turtleneck yep with blue So the 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:20.520 story started that blast, Yeah, and so I felt special 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.440 because said person on my TV screen was coming to 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.400 hang out with us soon after. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.920 So he's been working already this morning was that live? Yeah? 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.480 Every hit has been live, yeah this morning starting up 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:31.280 five thirty am. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.320 So that was special for me. But before I started 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.240 asking you a thousand questions, let me give you a. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.640 Special little intro. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.239 If you're down, guys, our guests, expectations high, our guests today. 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.240 Former Duke standout and one of the most recognizable voices 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.280 in college basketball. National champion in two thousand and one, 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.640 a first team All American and National Player of the 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.680 Year in two thousand and two, he is one of 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.360 Duke's all time greats. After his playing career, he's become 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.760 one of the most trusted analysts and commentators for ESPN 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:58.640 and beyond. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.120 We'll see if he's trusted after this turned that out. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.800 Please welcome Jay Williams. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:08.120 Everybody. Guy. I gotta tell you A big fan of 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.200 the pod, big fan of the pot. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.560 All right, well, I'm just going to get right into it. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.560 How are you feeling after that Duke's loss? 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.440 I thought this was like a positive it is. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.400 I think it's It's always one of those things I'm 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.280 torn about, right. I think what I recognized a long 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.680 time ago doing TV is that if I try to 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.840 be objective. My fan base hates me because I'm being objective. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.840 If I'm a homer, everybody else hates me because I'm 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:31.280 a homer. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.280 So I just stop really giving a damn what people think. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.520 And I root for my team and I tell you 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.600 if I think they're bad in the matchup, and it's 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.720 painful to see Yukon here in the championship game. Plus 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.040 they've owned our number for the last ten to fifteen years, 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.280 since nineteen ninety nine. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.720 Turning it back to being positive. The Boozer boys, and 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.120 especially the one who did the term, Yeah, he owned it. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:54.760 He owned it, and I just wanted to give him 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.280 a squeeze because he's a freshman. He's young, un experienced 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.280 at the collegiate level, but like he stepped up to 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:00.920 the plate, you know what I mean, and so like 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.160 he had a heck of a season. The whole du 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.079 team did. But that was a heartbreaker. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.040 So can I tell you his dad is my teammate. Yes, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.440 So I've held him when he was a little baby, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.120 which is crazy now I'm just an old man. No, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.439 it's like those are like the little babies, you know 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.480 what I mean. So watching him and you know how 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.680 it is, and like we all have our experiences, like 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.800 losing on that stage with social media, like that's all 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.160 people will try to label. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.080 You as so. But he's a strong kid. He's gonna 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:28.360 be all right. Yeah, he's gonna be all right. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.040 Talking about like your college days, all of our college days. 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.280 Talk about like your favorite travel memories is back in Duke, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:35.800 Like with teammates. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.080 I'll probably say one of my best experiences traveling was 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.679 you know, every time Duke has won a championship, we've 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.640 either won it in Minneapolis or Indianapolis. Interesting, which once 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.040 again you know, not to put poor salt on the wound, 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.960 but we want in Minneapolis and we want it and obviously, 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.480 you know, like winning a championship is just crazy in general, right, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.520 And we. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.640 All got on the team bus. You know, Coach k 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.120 is always like everything you see him, he talks like 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.880 this and he's pretty I love him. He's you know, 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.640 he's military, you know what I mean. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:10.360 And watching him on the bus in Minneapolis dance, he 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:12.679 let his shoulders start. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.120 Flowing and I was like, oh, now I see why 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.040 that's all coming together. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.800 Like that was like it was like a you know, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.240 you know, it is like you know, I didn't get 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.319 a chance to see my coach be human a lot. Yeah, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.160 it was always like so just monotonous every single day 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:28.440 that there was a great moment. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.880 Typically you hit the airport after an away game. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.600 But when you guys won in Minneapolis, did you get 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:35.720 to stay at the hotel one more night? 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.920 Oh my god? Yeah, right, just just great. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.800 Coach K just hit me in the chest with three 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.559 of his national championship rings. Two of them just hit 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:44.319 me so heartily. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.160 I'm not going to wait. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.880 What is Yeah, what is something you really learned from him? 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.960 Because I think Coach K is one, He's a lot 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.920 of people's favorites. I just like the more that you 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.000 just listen to him when you're you're away from the sport, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:58.880 not that you're away from it, but you're not being 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.760 coached by him every day, So it's different perspective, a 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.040 different lens, Like, what is something that you really learned 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:03.480 from him? 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.640 I think you know, he often talked about and it's 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.360 been critical for my life because you know, like being 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.400 drafted second overall, you're getting a chance to live out 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:16.760 your dream right and for me, my dream was cut short. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.280 By a mistake that I made. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.920 So as you can imagine similar to Kaid and Booze 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.480 or why probably run towards kids like that is you 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.800 make a mistake on a national scene. Everybody has some 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.640 type of judgment that they think they would do if 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.280 they were in your shoes. That's why I love like 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.160 man in the arena, right, It's like it's a great speech, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.000 and I think for him, in particular to your question, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.240 there will be mistakes. Do you look at them as 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.439 mistakes or do you look at them as growth opportunities? 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.800 Like he was by my side at the hospital, like 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.480 literally two days after I got hurt, amazing and just 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.160 pray with me and just told me next play. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:50.199 That was always his thing. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.040 Like if I had three turnovers in a game like Jay, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.120 next play, if I made four shots to Jay, next play, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.520 I say something stupid on TV was a mistake because 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.800 you're on TV for seven hours a day, Next play. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.360 Make a mistake in a relationship. All these things right, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.000 and for me in that moment when you want to 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.800 wallow in your own pity, yeah, think about the next player. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.640 Yeah so good, Okay, real quick, I'm gonna lob you. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.599 Every year, Final four Weekend brings the games, the pageantry 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.199 and legions of loyal fans to one city. It's a 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.640 stage that's bigger than anything else in college basketball. What 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.319 about Final four weekend do you. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:25.160 Look forward to the most? I love trash talking to 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.520 fan basis. I love it. It is so my thing. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.840 It just it makes me warm inside, you know, like 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.960 because I think you know fans often just that exchange 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.319 is great. And I also like I know as a 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.720 as a player that played in it, it's there's so 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.520 much noise. I'm just like you, guys, there's so much 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.520 noise that always leads up to all this, right, and 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.800 then there's something about tucking yourself in a bunker and 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.880 it just being you and your your team, these people 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.840 that I'm rocking with, Like that's my squad. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.120 Right now, and like it's I miss that so much. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.520 Yeah, I could never you never get a chance to 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.720 do that again, being here in that moment where everything else, 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.920 like you're playing from sixty thousand people. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.080 It's just you and your your squad. It's a beautiful feeling. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.440 Man, Okay, now, not playing. What is something you look forward. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:16.679 To watching other people experience their moments? Like watching my 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.360 freshman in my junior year, we lost in the sweet 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.840 sixteen to the team that lost in the national championship 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.760 game each year and like and that hurts, Like that's 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.599 like you're like, oh yeah. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.360 Like ty me like Duke right now watching Yukon. Yeah right, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.000 I just said I think I. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:34.800 Would watch every time we got kicked out of the tournament. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.520 I stopped watching he did. Yeah, I was like on 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.400 the beach or like I just didn't want to I 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:38.840 was over it. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:39.079 Yeah. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.040 I respect that because because if you're on my team, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.079 I don't like you, but then want my team love you. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.400 So I feel like I'm petty LaBelle. I'm like very petty. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.280 I like the store memories and just use that, just 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:50.840 use that. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:57.839 That's motivation that fits Duke. Can I say that? Sure? 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:02.480 That fits like a Duke rad expound small. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.320 Private school, like and people are more petty towards you 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.160 and like you just have it to give back at 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:08.680 all times? 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:09.560 Is that fair to say? 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:09.840 So? 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.360 I'm from Jersey, Okay, okay, Like, but I feel like I. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.400 Have a West Coast vibe, Like I love the mountains, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.760 I love the beach, chill out there, listen to the water, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.160 like that's my whole energy being recruited by them I'm 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.120 like regardless, Like I was at Georgetown, like do I 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.760 not go there? Like it was coach k Like do 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.760 I say no to that? And then like we played 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.800 a style of basketball like we were like kind of 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.840 like the Golden State Warriors before they started playing Golden 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:35.800 State Warriors basketball. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.680 So all of a sudden, people started. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.480 Comparing me to WOJ like Bojahawski and Bobby Hurley and 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:41.080 Christian Lanterer. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:45.200 I'm like, I got nineteen tattoos, Like I'm not Christian la. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:46.480 I love you guys. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.440 I know, like the turtleneck may throw you off a 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:49.880 little bit, like you know what. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.600 I mean, and a blue sox, I get it, but 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:52.560 like that's not who I am. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.560 So it's almost like people have this perception of who 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.920 they think you are. I'm sure you guys see it 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.560 all the time too. Didn't mean you're like, oh you're 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.520 actually you're really cool. I'm like, nah, duh, what do 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:02.080 you mean? 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:02.440 You know? 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.720 I feel like everyone who is living in public eye 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.080 everyone relates to that. But I think the majority of 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.800 people it's like, oh wait, like I actually really like you. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.520 You're not It's like, well, yeah, because you guys don't 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.320 know me. You guys, that's that's what you think, because 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:15.880 like we all hate each other on the court, you 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:16.360 know what I mean? 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.360 Jay, as a traveling man, a college athlete in your 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:23.600 professional Okay, yeah, you're on the road a lot, Yes, hotels, cars, planes, whatever. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.480 What keeps you grounded while you're traveling, like. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.680 A marryout rewards points? Since I've been thirteen years old? Okay, yeah, 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.800 since I've been thirteen years old. I was telling the 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.760 crew all back. They're like what, I'm like, Yeah, my 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.880 dad worked at AMEX, so I've been staying in Marriott 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.080 since I've been little. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.040 What then, Okay, then let's do that. What do you 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.800 need in a hotel room or hotel cleanliness? 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.360 Of course? Yeah that's not of course here it is, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.520 well here it is. Yes that hate being next to elevators. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.120 Can't do it, Okay, but I can't, like you just can't. Yeah, 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:53.880 you can't do it. Okay, I can't do it. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.280 So you like you'd rather take the walk. I like 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.320 to be in the middle of the hotel. What's what's 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.360 an underrated basketball city in Europe? It could be professional, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.440 it could be w it could be college. I gotta 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.600 be honest with you, Okay. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:06.760 He's gonna say Chapel Hill. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:12.400