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Speaker 1: We're back in Indie and it's not as cold this time,
Speaker 1: so I'll take it.
Speaker 3: The Big Eye is what people are calling now.
Speaker 1: It's game day for Michigan and Yukon.
Speaker 3: Yukon, who do you have?
Speaker 2: I'm staying in the Michigan Hotel, so I kind of feel.
Speaker 3: Like I like that I gotta do it.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I think like two or three weeks ago, I
Speaker 1: would have seriously said Yukon would have had it. But
Speaker 1: now watching Michigan, oh yeah, those are just big boys
Speaker 1: that are pros. I think I'm going Michigan.
Speaker 2: They beat a one seed by thirty points.
Speaker 1: If I was a betting woman, I would bet on Michigan.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But beautiful studio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks good. We've got the trophy back here too.
Speaker 3: We'ly from a mariat.
Speaker 1: We've had some good studios that we've been shooting in
Speaker 1: with our guests. We do have our last one today.
Speaker 2: We just came from Phoenix, YEP and had great pot
Speaker 2: episodes and then today we're with Jay Williams, who Rocks. I'
Speaker 2: probably seen him on TV.
Speaker 1: I saw or heard the voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually saw him on TV this morning. I
Speaker 3: turned ESPN on.
Speaker 1: We're excited to have him. He's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 3: So a lot of freaking okay, has that sound?
Speaker 2: Let's talk some ball, well, fun tournament, a lot of
Speaker 2: one seed supremacy, which I hate.
Speaker 1: It was like the things we're supposed to happen, you
Speaker 1: know what it sounds like. The duke in Yukonton.
Speaker 2: That was like the biggest thing to me for sure,
Speaker 2: the biggest moment of the attorney.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you need those.
Speaker 2: Actually, I would say round one and two there were
Speaker 2: a few little uppy sets. Uppy sets. I'm always a
Speaker 2: fan of that.
Speaker 1: You're always going to have those upsets, but I always
Speaker 1: want like underdog underdog to like around truly make it.
Speaker 2: We've talked about it before with l It's like way harder.
Speaker 1: Okay, But let's talk at a little Yukon Michigan forerial though. Okay,
Speaker 1: have you have you been keeping up with them a little?
Speaker 1: I mean I watched Michigan dominate Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched Michigan with our sweet brother keV.
Speaker 1: Oh did you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went to a little bar in downtown Funds.
Speaker 1: That's fun.
Speaker 2: Every time we got wings and burgers, and every time
Speaker 2: we'd look up at the TV, Michigan was like ally
Speaker 2: looping from from like half court.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my thing. And hopefully I'm not eating my words.
Speaker 1: But Yukon are phenomenal players, like I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: take away from them whatsoever. Really good players, really good
Speaker 1: systematic players. But compared to Michigan, Michigan just has a
Speaker 1: bunch of hoopers who can just play. Yukon is going
Speaker 1: to have people who go to the pros on thousand percent.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. But Michigan has dogs, dogs who
Speaker 1: are going to go to the Prosy, who just know
Speaker 1: how the rhythm of the game. They don't need a system,
Speaker 1: they just know how to go get a bucket.
Speaker 2: Well, and like the biggest center in the bracket, I
Speaker 2: was just kind of crazy. Yeah, you have spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time in it, the great city of Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: I have what do you think the Final four brings
Speaker 2: to the community. Weirdly enough, the final fours men's and
Speaker 2: women's are like your home bases.
Speaker 1: This is that weird.
Speaker 3: That is weird.
Speaker 1: Is it the Year of Me? Kind of so loves
Speaker 1: I gotta get behind this. I feel like, honestly, the
Speaker 1: w has done a great job of bringing a lot
Speaker 1: of money into the state of Indiana. Okay, having a
Speaker 1: men's Final four anywhere. I just think the restaurants thrive,
Speaker 1: the people around town that get excited, the gas, the hotels.
Speaker 1: I think the cities do a really good job having
Speaker 1: people feel important, embracing them into their culture of Indiana,
Speaker 1: and people are showing out is packed here.
Speaker 2: One thing that's like underrated. Unlike a lot of major
Speaker 2: sporting events where it's one event and then you go home,
Speaker 2: there's two games because it's the Final four, so you
Speaker 2: have the Round four and then you have the championship.
Speaker 3: So there's four schools in town at once.
Speaker 2: Two of those teams, unfortunately, do lose, and they have
Speaker 2: probably booked their flights and hotels assuming that they'd be
Speaker 2: in the championship game, and then their whole job after
Speaker 2: that is to hang out and just catch vibes.
Speaker 3: Okay, explore the city.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was going to say. We just
Speaker 1: had people in here from Arizona and they're still here
Speaker 1: because they want to see the championship game. And so
Speaker 1: you're right, they're just catching vibes. They're getting to see
Speaker 1: the beautiful downtown Indianapolis, And so say, almost, go get
Speaker 1: you some shrimp cocktail.
Speaker 3: Have you been a livery here?
Speaker 2: I've not, thanks to the Mexican restaurant. Really, we had
Speaker 2: a great time because we've been here. We were here
Speaker 2: first Selection Sunday and now Final four. I was kind
Speaker 2: of staying downtown, but last night we went and got
Speaker 2: dinner like more in the not like in the suburbs.
Speaker 3: But it was like a ten minute uber. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like to drive to a restaurant and just kind
Speaker 2: of like scope out neighborhoods and field at home and
Speaker 2: like there are a bunch of houses with like colts
Speaker 2: flags and a cute little streets with like trees and
Speaker 2: old stoops.
Speaker 1: Being back in the Midwest, we just love our sports. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we love our sports. And I know that like
Speaker 1: Indiana they won with their the football and I know
Speaker 1: it's known for like a basketball state, but like everyone
Speaker 1: is waving the flags, everyone is like wearing their colors,
Speaker 1: and I absolutely love that about college sports culture in
Speaker 1: the Midwest. So I think the coasts kind of lose
Speaker 1: it a little bit, or they don't get it. They're
Speaker 1: not fired up as much as we are.
Speaker 2: I would agree, and I mean it helps that there's
Speaker 2: that they're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Colts kind of caught on fire and
Speaker 1: like people.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about the Peyton Manning era and how
Speaker 2: foot would have been to be here with with that
Speaker 2: whole team, yeah, when they were rocking, trying to compete
Speaker 2: with Tom Brady every single fall. Yeah, but for sure,
Speaker 2: the Midwest is like the best place to be a
Speaker 2: fan of any team ever.
Speaker 3: Wait, I have a I have some especially the fever.
Speaker 1: Wait, let's let's walk through. Okay, if you are a
Speaker 1: fan and say your team was in the championship game,
Speaker 1: what is your ideal day? Game is at nine pm tonight?
Speaker 1: Oh so you have to like walk me through. When
Speaker 1: you're waking up, what are you doing? Your friends are
Speaker 1: in town, what's going on? I like this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to be a little wholesome.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wake up at like eleven, just a quick
Speaker 2: thirty minute inclined walk downstairs in the treadmill.
Speaker 1: I was sweat out last night expecting that at all.
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna I'm going to the hotel bar,
Speaker 2: break downstairs. Okay, have this beautiful mariat yep, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna wait for all the boys to come downstairs.
Speaker 1: Like noon twelve thirty.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably around one one okay, one lunch.
Speaker 3: Maybe we just.
Speaker 2: Wander around because we're not doing a big dinner because
Speaker 2: we're gonna be ready to go to the game. So
Speaker 2: maybe it's like a late lunch reservation. Stay there, drink
Speaker 2: a little bit, bar hop because you're bar hopping during
Speaker 2: the day and we're gonna come back, shower, put on
Speaker 2: our collegiate clothing, and then head inside.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: And may I say before we head out of here,
Speaker 2: my water pressure pretty good?
Speaker 3: Sick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. It was really good. So salute
Speaker 1: stayc was good too. I walked to my room and
Speaker 1: I was like, west Wood, enjoy this.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I woke up this morning, turned on ESPN because that's
Speaker 2: what I do most mornings.
Speaker 1: Did you see a lovely, beautiful.
Speaker 4: Man in a dark turtleneck yep with blue So the
Speaker 4: story started that blast, Yeah, and so I felt special
Speaker 4: because said person on my TV screen was coming to
Speaker 4: hang out with us soon after.
Speaker 3: So he's been working already this morning was that live? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Every hit has been live, yeah this morning starting up
Speaker 5: five thirty am.
Speaker 2: So that was special for me. But before I started
Speaker 2: asking you a thousand questions, let me give you a.
Speaker 3: Special little intro.
Speaker 2: If you're down, guys, our guests, expectations high, our guests today.
Speaker 2: Former Duke standout and one of the most recognizable voices
Speaker 2: in college basketball. National champion in two thousand and one,
Speaker 2: a first team All American and National Player of the
Speaker 2: Year in two thousand and two, he is one of
Speaker 2: Duke's all time greats. After his playing career, he's become
Speaker 2: one of the most trusted analysts and commentators for ESPN
Speaker 2: and beyond.
Speaker 1: We'll see if he's trusted after this turned that out.
Speaker 2: Please welcome Jay Williams.
Speaker 3: Everybody. Guy. I gotta tell you A big fan of
Speaker 3: the pod, big fan of the pot.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm just going to get right into it.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling after that Duke's loss?
Speaker 3: I thought this was like a positive it is.
Speaker 5: I think it's It's always one of those things I'm
Speaker 5: torn about, right. I think what I recognized a long
Speaker 5: time ago doing TV is that if I try to
Speaker 5: be objective. My fan base hates me because I'm being objective.
Speaker 5: If I'm a homer, everybody else hates me because I'm
Speaker 5: a homer.
Speaker 3: So I just stop really giving a damn what people think.
Speaker 5: And I root for my team and I tell you
Speaker 5: if I think they're bad in the matchup, and it's
Speaker 5: painful to see Yukon here in the championship game. Plus
Speaker 5: they've owned our number for the last ten to fifteen years,
Speaker 5: since nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Turning it back to being positive. The Boozer boys, and
Speaker 1: especially the one who did the term, Yeah, he owned it.
Speaker 1: He owned it, and I just wanted to give him
Speaker 1: a squeeze because he's a freshman. He's young, un experienced
Speaker 1: at the collegiate level, but like he stepped up to
Speaker 1: the plate, you know what I mean, and so like
Speaker 1: he had a heck of a season. The whole du
Speaker 1: team did. But that was a heartbreaker.
Speaker 5: So can I tell you his dad is my teammate. Yes,
Speaker 5: So I've held him when he was a little baby,
Speaker 5: which is crazy now I'm just an old man. No,
Speaker 5: it's like those are like the little babies, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So watching him and you know how
Speaker 5: it is, and like we all have our experiences, like
Speaker 5: losing on that stage with social media, like that's all
Speaker 5: people will try to label.
Speaker 3: You as so. But he's a strong kid. He's gonna
Speaker 3: be all right. Yeah, he's gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: Talking about like your college days, all of our college days.
Speaker 1: Talk about like your favorite travel memories is back in Duke,
Speaker 1: Like with teammates.
Speaker 5: I'll probably say one of my best experiences traveling was
Speaker 5: you know, every time Duke has won a championship, we've
Speaker 5: either won it in Minneapolis or Indianapolis. Interesting, which once
Speaker 5: again you know, not to put poor salt on the wound,
Speaker 5: but we want in Minneapolis and we want it and obviously,
Speaker 5: you know, like winning a championship is just crazy in general, right,
Speaker 5: And we.
Speaker 3: All got on the team bus. You know, Coach k
Speaker 3: is always like everything you see him, he talks like
Speaker 3: this and he's pretty I love him. He's you know,
Speaker 3: he's military, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And watching him on the bus in Minneapolis dance, he
Speaker 5: let his shoulders start.
Speaker 3: Flowing and I was like, oh, now I see why
Speaker 3: that's all coming together.
Speaker 5: Like that was like it was like a you know,
Speaker 5: you know, it is like you know, I didn't get
Speaker 5: a chance to see my coach be human a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was always like so just monotonous every single day
Speaker 5: that there was a great moment.
Speaker 3: Typically you hit the airport after an away game.
Speaker 2: But when you guys won in Minneapolis, did you get
Speaker 2: to stay at the hotel one more night?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Yeah, right, just just great.
Speaker 5: Coach K just hit me in the chest with three
Speaker 5: of his national championship rings. Two of them just hit
Speaker 5: me so heartily.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to wait.
Speaker 1: What is Yeah, what is something you really learned from him?
Speaker 1: Because I think Coach K is one, He's a lot
Speaker 1: of people's favorites. I just like the more that you
Speaker 1: just listen to him when you're you're away from the sport,
Speaker 1: not that you're away from it, but you're not being
Speaker 1: coached by him every day, So it's different perspective, a
Speaker 1: different lens, Like, what is something that you really learned
Speaker 1: from him?
Speaker 5: I think you know, he often talked about and it's
Speaker 5: been critical for my life because you know, like being
Speaker 5: drafted second overall, you're getting a chance to live out
Speaker 5: your dream right and for me, my dream was cut short.
Speaker 3: By a mistake that I made.
Speaker 5: So as you can imagine similar to Kaid and Booze
Speaker 5: or why probably run towards kids like that is you
Speaker 5: make a mistake on a national scene. Everybody has some
Speaker 5: type of judgment that they think they would do if
Speaker 5: they were in your shoes. That's why I love like
Speaker 5: man in the arena, right, It's like it's a great speech,
Speaker 5: and I think for him, in particular to your question,
Speaker 5: there will be mistakes. Do you look at them as
Speaker 5: mistakes or do you look at them as growth opportunities?
Speaker 5: Like he was by my side at the hospital, like
Speaker 5: literally two days after I got hurt, amazing and just
Speaker 5: pray with me and just told me next play.
Speaker 3: That was always his thing.
Speaker 5: Like if I had three turnovers in a game like Jay,
Speaker 5: next play, if I made four shots to Jay, next play,
Speaker 5: I say something stupid on TV was a mistake because
Speaker 5: you're on TV for seven hours a day, Next play.
Speaker 5: Make a mistake in a relationship. All these things right,
Speaker 5: and for me in that moment when you want to
Speaker 5: wallow in your own pity, yeah, think about the next player.
Speaker 2: Yeah so good, Okay, real quick, I'm gonna lob you.
Speaker 2: Every year, Final four Weekend brings the games, the pageantry
Speaker 2: and legions of loyal fans to one city. It's a
Speaker 2: stage that's bigger than anything else in college basketball. What
Speaker 2: about Final four weekend do you.
Speaker 3: Look forward to the most? I love trash talking to
Speaker 3: fan basis. I love it. It is so my thing.
Speaker 5: It just it makes me warm inside, you know, like
Speaker 5: because I think you know fans often just that exchange
Speaker 5: is great. And I also like I know as a
Speaker 5: as a player that played in it, it's there's so
Speaker 5: much noise. I'm just like you, guys, there's so much
Speaker 5: noise that always leads up to all this, right, and
Speaker 5: then there's something about tucking yourself in a bunker and
Speaker 5: it just being you and your your team, these people
Speaker 5: that I'm rocking with, Like that's my squad.
Speaker 3: Right now, and like it's I miss that so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could never you never get a chance to
Speaker 5: do that again, being here in that moment where everything else,
Speaker 5: like you're playing from sixty thousand people.
Speaker 3: It's just you and your your squad. It's a beautiful feeling.
Speaker 1: Man, Okay, now, not playing. What is something you look forward.
Speaker 5: To watching other people experience their moments? Like watching my
Speaker 5: freshman in my junior year, we lost in the sweet
Speaker 5: sixteen to the team that lost in the national championship
Speaker 5: game each year and like and that hurts, Like that's
Speaker 5: like you're like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Like ty me like Duke right now watching Yukon. Yeah right,
Speaker 3: I just said I think I.
Speaker 1: Would watch every time we got kicked out of the tournament.
Speaker 1: I stopped watching he did. Yeah, I was like on
Speaker 1: the beach or like I just didn't want to I
Speaker 1: was over it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I respect that because because if you're on my team,
Speaker 1: I don't like you, but then want my team love you.
Speaker 5: So I feel like I'm petty LaBelle. I'm like very petty.
Speaker 5: I like the store memories and just use that, just
Speaker 5: use that.
Speaker 3: That's motivation that fits Duke. Can I say that? Sure?
Speaker 3: That fits like a Duke rad expound small.
Speaker 2: Private school, like and people are more petty towards you
Speaker 2: and like you just have it to give back at
Speaker 2: all times?
Speaker 3: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: I'm from Jersey, Okay, okay, Like, but I feel like I.
Speaker 5: Have a West Coast vibe, Like I love the mountains,
Speaker 5: I love the beach, chill out there, listen to the water,
Speaker 5: like that's my whole energy being recruited by them I'm
Speaker 5: like regardless, Like I was at Georgetown, like do I
Speaker 5: not go there? Like it was coach k Like do
Speaker 5: I say no to that? And then like we played
Speaker 5: a style of basketball like we were like kind of
Speaker 5: like the Golden State Warriors before they started playing Golden
Speaker 5: State Warriors basketball.
Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, people started.
Speaker 5: Comparing me to WOJ like Bojahawski and Bobby Hurley and
Speaker 5: Christian Lanterer.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got nineteen tattoos, Like I'm not Christian la.
Speaker 3: I love you guys.
Speaker 5: I know, like the turtleneck may throw you off a
Speaker 5: little bit, like you know what.
Speaker 3: I mean, and a blue sox, I get it, but
Speaker 3: like that's not who I am.
Speaker 5: So it's almost like people have this perception of who
Speaker 5: they think you are. I'm sure you guys see it
Speaker 5: all the time too. Didn't mean you're like, oh you're
Speaker 5: actually you're really cool. I'm like, nah, duh, what do
Speaker 5: you mean?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone who is living in public eye
Speaker 1: everyone relates to that. But I think the majority of
Speaker 1: people it's like, oh wait, like I actually really like you.
Speaker 1: You're not It's like, well, yeah, because you guys don't
Speaker 1: know me. You guys, that's that's what you think, because
Speaker 1: like we all hate each other on the court, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Jay, as a traveling man, a college athlete in your
Speaker 2: professional Okay, yeah, you're on the road a lot, Yes, hotels, cars, planes, whatever.
Speaker 2: What keeps you grounded while you're traveling, like.
Speaker 5: A marryout rewards points? Since I've been thirteen years old? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: since I've been thirteen years old. I was telling the
Speaker 5: crew all back. They're like what, I'm like, Yeah, my
Speaker 5: dad worked at AMEX, so I've been staying in Marriott
Speaker 5: since I've been little.
Speaker 2: What then, Okay, then let's do that. What do you
Speaker 2: need in a hotel room or hotel cleanliness?
Speaker 3: Of course? Yeah that's not of course here it is,
Speaker 3: well here it is. Yes that hate being next to elevators.
Speaker 3: Can't do it, Okay, but I can't, like you just can't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't do it. Okay, I can't do it.
Speaker 2: So you like you'd rather take the walk. I like
Speaker 2: to be in the middle of the hotel. What's what's
Speaker 2: an underrated basketball city in Europe? It could be professional,
Speaker 2: it could be w it could be college. I gotta
Speaker 2: be honest with you, Okay.
Speaker 3: He's gonna say Chapel Hill.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no. My junior year, like how many
Speaker 5: times when you're a little girl, were you in your
Speaker 5: backyard and you're shooting and you close your eyes and
Speaker 5: you're like three.
Speaker 3: Two and a shot goes up and it goes in right. Okay, Yes.
Speaker 5: My last college basketball game, sweet sixteen against Indiana at Kentucky.
Speaker 5: It's the only time in my life I think I
Speaker 5: ever heard Kentucky fans root for Indiana. That never happens
Speaker 5: because they despise us so much. Down four in Lexington
Speaker 5: in Lexington, Sweet sixteen at the.
Speaker 2: Arena where Kentucky plays Arena. Oh okay, okay, they take
Speaker 2: a shot.
Speaker 5: I get to my rookie freshman, takes the ball down
Speaker 5: the right side of floor, shoots the three. We're down
Speaker 5: four with eight seconds left to go in the game.
Speaker 5: The ball hits the back of the rim, bounces to
Speaker 5: me at the top of the key, literally like every dream,
Speaker 5: catch the ball. This guy, Dane fIF is right there
Speaker 5: from IU. Give him a headfake. He jumps. I close
Speaker 5: my eyes and jump into this dude. Throw it up
Speaker 5: and all goes in. Three and a half seconds up
Speaker 5: on the clock. Every kid's dream. They call time out.
Speaker 5: Coach K's great at drawing, like all these visionary stuff.
Speaker 5: He's like, when you make this free throw, we're going
Speaker 5: into our forty one press.
Speaker 3: Like hands up. He's talking about all these next defensive plays. Right,
Speaker 3: I'm locked in.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna make the free throw. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: make the free I'm gonna make thee to the free throw.
Speaker 5: My routine, ball goes in and out. My teammate Carlos
Speaker 5: Boozer gets the rebound, gets foult. They don't call it.
Speaker 5: We lose to Indiana. Now, I tell you this because
Speaker 5: I happened to marry a girl that went to IU
Speaker 5: and her brother and her dad also went to AU
Speaker 5: and all I hear about is the miss free throw.
Speaker 5: For the last ten years of my life. Fans are
Speaker 5: Indiana fans are crazy when it comes to the ball.
Speaker 3: It's very flat, not a lot to do around here.
Speaker 5: I do respect downtown things that came up along way,
Speaker 5: but like Indiana fans pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: Man, They're pretty Bloomington, is it ole? Do you think
Speaker 2: the stay giving.
Speaker 3: Giving a state love?
Speaker 5: I'm also given like Indiana basketball. They will now say
Speaker 5: they're a football school because the wow.
Speaker 1: Wait, so what are you? You have a lot to
Speaker 1: say about all these sports and I love this, But
Speaker 1: what are you looking forward to today.
Speaker 3: In the National Championship. Yeah, I've known Dan Hurley since
Speaker 3: I've been We need.
Speaker 1: To talk about him.
Speaker 3: And the ref was it's the funniest figure I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: The ref is my boy. Yeah, the ref is my boys.
Speaker 3: He's been around forever.
Speaker 5: What he does is every time I call a game,
Speaker 5: like a Big twelve or a CEC game, he walks
Speaker 5: over to me. He's like, yo, I had on the
Speaker 5: pink Flamingo soup pants tonight, I had the gray Patchino
Speaker 5: loafers on, I had the jacket on.
Speaker 3: Like. He always tells me what.
Speaker 5: His game fit is, like all like it's down to
Speaker 5: a team and I always see him leaving. He's the
Speaker 5: best dress referee there is in the game. And him
Speaker 5: and Dan are kind of boys, so like they kind
Speaker 5: of like that this moment of they're cool, Like it's
Speaker 5: like they're like, you don't think anything about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, to Dan was just hype like crazy, it was
Speaker 2: just hyped.
Speaker 3: That's nut. Dan's always been hyped. Though.
Speaker 2: I do have to also say I listened to the Keishawn,
Speaker 2: Max and j podcast all the time.
Speaker 3: Max's genius.
Speaker 5: Maxis straight up tell you like, so we have like
Speaker 5: our preproduction meeting every day, like at four forty five
Speaker 5: in the morning. Right, yeah, you're like all right, so
Speaker 5: when you go to bed, you just pretty much don't sleep,
Speaker 5: just keep going.
Speaker 1: Is that why you're doing circles around this table?
Speaker 5: So Maxic come on the show and like all like, oh,
Speaker 5: the Monday Night Game was last night. Max were like
Speaker 5: I did not watch one second of it, and I'm like, so,
Speaker 5: where do we go with this? So then Max would
Speaker 5: read and then he would hear a couple of people.
Speaker 3: And have their assessment.
Speaker 5: And next thing, you know, like ten minutes into the show,
Speaker 5: he has this thesis that it is brilliant? How did
Speaker 5: you just Meanwhile, Key's coming in from the bar the
Speaker 5: night before He's like, oh, I was watching The Girl
Speaker 5: with all the boys, Like so everybody just had their
Speaker 5: like the true part about like the reason why your
Speaker 5: show was good. You guys are just authentically yourselves, right,
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't feel performative, You're just kicking it.
Speaker 3: I don't think we've said a stat entirely.
Speaker 1: Player of the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she doesn't tube.
Speaker 1: So we talk about a lot on court and some
Speaker 1: of the experiences you've had, but walk us through like
Speaker 1: you as a player, not on the court. What are
Speaker 1: the hotel stays like? What are the meals like the
Speaker 1: bus like.
Speaker 2: With tournament, specifically when it's a NonStop city city city
Speaker 2: bang bus game hotel.
Speaker 5: A lot of video games, video games are played, Call
Speaker 5: of Duty, NBA two k lats of stuff like that.
Speaker 5: As a player, a lot of just shenanigans that typically
Speaker 5: occur when you're dumb and you're seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years old, you.
Speaker 1: Do that like with coach k as your coach.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you gotta know, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta tell Actually tournament or just like normal season.
Speaker 5: I can either confirm nor deny the specific time or
Speaker 5: location of some of these things that have occurred.
Speaker 2: Jay, We've talked about this. You travel all over the country.
Speaker 2: When you're traveling, how do you like to explore a
Speaker 2: new city? Like for me, find like an old bar
Speaker 2: sitting in it, have a couple of beers and just
Speaker 2: see who comes in, who comes out, Maybe talk to
Speaker 2: the bartender. What do you like to do when you're
Speaker 2: in a new city, how do you take it in?
Speaker 5: So the last couple of years have been hard because
Speaker 5: I have three kids under seven, so I'm always tired
Speaker 5: of Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the best too.
Speaker 5: So sometimes like when I go into cities with them,
Speaker 5: like I kind of like I like history, love so
Speaker 5: like just going through, like, hey, where are the top
Speaker 5: five places that we can go visit where I can
Speaker 5: teach my kids about history, because I don't find that
Speaker 5: people talk about that anymore so going to locations. I'm
Speaker 5: big on that, like sight seeing and just kind of
Speaker 5: like talking through like what used to be right to
Speaker 5: understand like where we are now.
Speaker 3: So I love anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad's very much like that, And I appreciate
Speaker 2: those memories now that I'm older more than I did
Speaker 2: when I was younger, because when your little history is
Speaker 2: hard to like truly grasp me just like the importance
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: You know, But when you're physically there too though, you
Speaker 1: just you get to take it in.
Speaker 2: Looking back now and like the fact I've been to
Speaker 2: x Y, the historical place is so special seein I'm
Speaker 2: seeing your kids will be very proud of those experiences and.
Speaker 5: Correct for boys, I think girls are different, like I
Speaker 5: have two girls and one boy. Right, So, like my
Speaker 5: friend Scott made this video they're all having a beer
Speaker 5: at this bar. Just the difference between girls and boys.
Speaker 5: Because my kids are seven, five and three. So my
Speaker 5: son is in the middle, right, Okay, So Amelia, Zane Penelope,
Speaker 5: And this video was all these guys sitting at the bar,
Speaker 5: four guys and one of my friends stood on top
Speaker 5: of the table and they did it by ai and
Speaker 5: kind of like jumped out of the roof and then
Speaker 5: jumped into outer space, right, And my son is like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's so cool, And my oldest daughter is like, how
Speaker 5: can he breathe?
Speaker 3: He's an outer space And I'm.
Speaker 1: Just like girls have brains activated earlier, right, So like
Speaker 1: my daughter when we go places, she's like she'll talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: That's dope for like a while, Like.
Speaker 5: She'll talk about Indiana places she's been, like remembers it
Speaker 5: all like that. Where my son's just so it's I
Speaker 5: guess about timing and when the brain forms, you know.
Speaker 1: True, speaking of kids when you were little, who is
Speaker 1: your favorite player growing up and why? And also now
Speaker 1: watching collegiate hoops or pro hoops, who's something that you
Speaker 1: still really love?
Speaker 3: So I am so like all these conversations. Whenever I
Speaker 3: start talking.
Speaker 5: About business, I geek out, yep, like I love sitting
Speaker 5: at this intersection of sports and business.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm six'. TWO i never THOUGHT i
Speaker 3: was going to be six.
Speaker 5: Eight but Like Magic johnson was like my favorite person
Speaker 5: of all, time even.
Speaker 3: THOUGH i used to Watch.
Speaker 5: Magic i'm, Like i'm gonna be more Like, isaiah but
Speaker 5: Like irock with You, magic, Right so like Meeting magic
Speaker 5: and spending time With, magic And magic's like my little.
Speaker 3: Brother he calls me as a little.
Speaker 5: Brother i'm, like, oh thank, you, lord, yeah just because
Speaker 5: like you, know what he's built is. LEGENDARY i think
Speaker 5: like WHEN i see guys, now LIKE i got the.
Speaker 3: Best job, ever you really, do, honestly so GNARLY i.
Speaker 5: Get a chance to hang out with Like Asia wilson or,
Speaker 5: you or like some of the best players in the
Speaker 5: w get a chance to play out Like lebron or
Speaker 5: talk to D wade about history Or mellow or you,
Speaker 5: Know i'm Watching Kate cunningham And detroit like all these
Speaker 5: different people and just sports in, GENERAL, NASCAR, NFL, nhl
Speaker 5: LIKE nhl hockey.
Speaker 3: Playoff it's just.
Speaker 5: Awesome SO i think when you get a chance to
Speaker 5: like spend time With Pete, Carroll i'm, like, yo you
Speaker 5: are way more, Smart like you're. BRILLIANT i never knew
Speaker 5: him like, that, right and so Cal, perry you just
Speaker 5: made mention of, Him like you, know my father in
Speaker 5: law Is, Italian so LIKE i just watched literally like
Speaker 5: these And i'm From, jersey so my friends called me
Speaker 5: like a Black italian growing, Up like let's watch these
Speaker 5: two just like kick, it, yeah and like and they're, like,
Speaker 5: oh it's For gazi and all these eff like is
Speaker 5: so it's you get a chance to know people on
Speaker 5: a human, level which is it's just cool to.
Speaker 2: Me meeting people is such a better human experience than
Speaker 2: thinking you know people from media OR tv or.
Speaker 1: Because you get to know them and like why they
Speaker 1: are the way they, are and like when you are
Speaker 1: around people who are so brilliant at their craft and
Speaker 1: then you get to pick their, brain it's just LIKE
Speaker 1: i love that stuff and now That i'm kind of
Speaker 1: on this side of, it and you do get to
Speaker 1: kind of like see the, stories, yeah and it's just
Speaker 1: like people are just genius and the way they think
Speaker 1: about the. CRAFT i, know you say sports in. General
Speaker 1: but for me When i'm still, playing, LIKE i just
Speaker 1: love seeing different people's perspective on the sport of. Basketball
Speaker 1: and it's it's cool as a, player it's cool as an,
Speaker 1: analyst and SO i KNOW i appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Too what's your favorite part about doing media?
Speaker 1: Now my favorite thing is being around the players and
Speaker 1: seeing their daily, habits picking their brains on why they
Speaker 1: do what they. DO i love breaking down offenses and
Speaker 1: defenses and why they're playing a certain, way why they
Speaker 1: switch up that. STYLE i was With The sun's broadcast
Speaker 1: for three or four, years and Once katie got, there
Speaker 1: and you, know books, phenomenal But katie is JUST i feel,
Speaker 1: like on a whole other. Level, Yes and so just
Speaker 1: like always seeing his little right to left crossover right
Speaker 1: at that. Elbow no one could stop. IT i saw
Speaker 1: so many game winners and just everyone knows that's his,
Speaker 1: move but they couldn't stop. It and so just like
Speaker 1: picking up on small details and you, know getting to
Speaker 1: See whimby play, live getting to, say See luca play,
Speaker 1: lives getting to see these you, know amazing players just
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, know they're the elite level App it's
Speaker 1: in the entire world and you get to see it,
Speaker 1: firsthand then talk about it and then interview. THEM i
Speaker 1: just think that's so.
Speaker 2: Special yeah, ye speaking of little, Details, jaye did you
Speaker 2: have a routine or, like are you superstitious in any
Speaker 2: way anything you did at the hotel before you played
Speaker 2: or even before a big.
Speaker 5: Day it's crazy being a parent the most humbling thing
Speaker 5: that can ever happen to.
Speaker 3: You, Right it gets you outside of.
Speaker 5: Yourself and and this is positive because you KNOW i
Speaker 5: almost died WHEN i was twenty. One, yeah, right so
Speaker 5: that was a very hard experience for me to learn
Speaker 5: WHO i, was but not through the lens of other,
Speaker 5: people like for myself and WHO i wanted to.
Speaker 2: Be.
Speaker 5: RIGHT i lost my, mom you, know three years, ago
Speaker 5: coming up in a couple of, days, right it's. Okay
Speaker 5: AND i lost my dad this, year and so you,
Speaker 5: know my parents have always instilled faith in. Me so
Speaker 5: LIKE i ALWAYS i always say to serenity prayer BEFORE
Speaker 5: i go to sleep and then like WHEN i wake,
Speaker 5: up BUT i say it in my, mind, right and it's, Like,
Speaker 5: god grant me the serenity to accept the THINGS i cannot,
Speaker 5: change the strength to change the THINGS i.
Speaker 3: Can in the way to know.
Speaker 5: The difference BECAUSE i just feel like AND i say
Speaker 5: it to my kids because, man life throws so many
Speaker 5: different things at, You and especially When i'm.
Speaker 3: TRAVELING i don't know how you guys, are but like.
Speaker 5: Being out and, ABOUT i absorb a lot of people's
Speaker 5: energies all the, time, Right so it's And i've definitely
Speaker 5: had a couple of bumpings with, people like WHEN i
Speaker 5: was younger THAT i THOUGHT i wanted to meet AND
Speaker 5: i was so disappointed WHEN i met them because they
Speaker 5: didn't take that time right just to treat me LIKE
Speaker 5: i was a. Person and so like When i'm out and,
Speaker 5: about people come up to me and they'll talk to,
Speaker 5: me And i'm, like all, RIGHT i have a choice
Speaker 5: in this, Moment Like i'm dead, Tired i've been going
Speaker 5: SO i was four, Am LIKE i have no, Words
Speaker 5: like how DO i try to engage with this.
Speaker 3: Person for a? Minute?
Speaker 5: Right and when my kids have that same type of like,
Speaker 5: hospitality like that same type of like, thoughtfulness yes with
Speaker 5: life because it meant it's nobody SAYS i.
Speaker 3: Have to be here man yea ye like.
Speaker 5: And also like when my mom and my, Dad i'm like,
Speaker 5: Whoa Like i'm forty four years, Old LIKE i got
Speaker 5: twenty three extra years with, Them like nobody SAID i
Speaker 5: had to have.
Speaker 3: That so it's a, gift you, know it's a. Gift
Speaker 3: that's a great.
Speaker 1: Perspective it's good AND i think we can all feel
Speaker 1: that because you are, Exhausted like you just told us
Speaker 1: your schedule after, this and it's, like how are you
Speaker 1: doing what you're? Doing you do this like on a daily,
Speaker 1: basis just just to feed off. THAT i feel like
Speaker 1: our parents are always, like leave people better than you found.
Speaker 1: Them how can you put a smile or how can
Speaker 1: you make? PEOPLE i love the word, Hospitality Like i've
Speaker 1: never even thought about that because you're thinking about in
Speaker 1: so many, ways but how can you do that when
Speaker 1: people come up to you and so you can feel,
Speaker 1: THAT i think we filed your energy right when you came.
Speaker 1: In we're, like this is gonna be.
Speaker 3: Great that's a good way to put.
Speaker 2: It, Yeah i've always just thought THAT i think being
Speaker 2: and maybe not for, everyone but being kind and nice
Speaker 2: at least comes naturally TO i would like to think
Speaker 2: it comes naturally to. Everybody but, yeah when you meet
Speaker 2: people who don't take the time to whether it's be
Speaker 2: respectful or give you the. TIME i just feel like
Speaker 2: that would drain me more than it would like taking
Speaker 2: the time to like energy.
Speaker 1: Management, baby it's a real.
Speaker 2: Thing quick little game of this or? That, okay and
Speaker 2: we're asking, you but like we'll probably chime in hotel
Speaker 2: breakfast or postgame room, service hotel.
Speaker 1: Breakfast cutting down the? Nets are hanging a banner in the?
Speaker 3: Banner really hanging the banner.
Speaker 1: A game in your hometown or a game on the
Speaker 1: other side of the.
Speaker 3: World game on the other side of the. World that's. Good,
Speaker 3: yeah there's such good. Basketball have you seen those videos
Speaker 3: with the fire's?
Speaker 1: Wild you will never get over because when you play over,
Speaker 1: there you get to experience. That and when he was
Speaker 1: like when they're, like oh is the crowd and he's,
Speaker 1: Like i'm From, serbia, brother and then you see. Guns
Speaker 1: whole thing is.
Speaker 3: Shaken game Of cameron Or final, Four final?
Speaker 1: Four, Okay, wow this is a salty.
Speaker 3: Question trying to hang Banners, west that's.
Speaker 1: True free upgraded sweet or crunch time free throw free upgraded?
Speaker 3: SWEET i hate you? Both tell you one story throw
Speaker 3: to get worked into the.
Speaker 2: In flight movie or good. MUSIC i internally battle this
Speaker 2: one a. Lot actually this is.
Speaker 5: Tough and BECAUSE i love country music like the low,
Speaker 5: key it makes me chill.
Speaker 3: Out BUT i do love a rate in flight. MOVIE
Speaker 3: i love. It IF i have to go, MUSIC.
Speaker 2: I always Think i'm gonna watch a movie and THEN
Speaker 2: i just kind of, LIKE i just get comfortable with
Speaker 2: my shuffle AND i just let.
Speaker 3: IT i just let it.
Speaker 1: Easy one Here durham Or Chapel.
Speaker 3: Hill what AM i?
Speaker 5: Doing cruis hanging out cruising years, old because the old
Speaker 5: me would have be Like Chapple.
Speaker 3: HILL i love hanging out on Chop. Hill, No i'm
Speaker 3: always gonna choose their film slash or shoot. Around Shoot?
Speaker 1: Around you fully unpack or live out of your? Suitcase
Speaker 1: depends on how a lot of.
Speaker 3: People will fully unpack all the. TIME i kind of
Speaker 3: go back and. Forth, OH i Know jay's answer for this.
Speaker 2: One it's probably all three of us, postgame hotel recovery
Speaker 2: or go out and. Celebrate come, on, dude, yeah shoutout one.
Speaker 1: Sixty point game or twenty point triple, double.
Speaker 3: Twenty point triple double like. That, yeah did you get
Speaker 3: a lot of you? Boards? Guy? NO i got? Boards you? Did?
Speaker 2: YEAH i THINK i was like six Rebog Dog cinderella
Speaker 2: story Or Blue blood. SHOWDOWN i kind of like the
Speaker 2: Blue blood. Show, yeah that's.
Speaker 3: Good that's.
Speaker 1: Good team bus or, FLIGHT nba or.
Speaker 3: College that's WHAT i was about to, say.
Speaker 1: Experience, YEAH i would SAY i was just about to
Speaker 1: say as a pro team flight.
Speaker 3: Team, flight but no doubt about.
Speaker 1: It but as a college team, Bus.
Speaker 2: Yes pregame workout or pregame meditation.
Speaker 3: Sash pregame? Workout did you work out for? Games? Yeah
Speaker 3: that was my? Meditation, okay the workout was the.
Speaker 1: Meditation watching a game on set or in seats one?
Speaker 5: Set, yeah on space just BECAUSE i can talk to
Speaker 5: all my we will be able to.
Speaker 3: Talk, yeah you know WHAT i, Mean, like where AM
Speaker 3: i a? Game be, like, oh what do you think about?
Speaker 3: IT i, Stop i'm watching the game with these people right.
Speaker 3: Here facts.
Speaker 1: Respect all, right we're gonna switch a little. Bit you
Speaker 1: have been super outspoken about THE, wnba WHICH i big.
Speaker 1: Fan let's just give us your thoughts and, Why like
Speaker 1: why do you care so? Much because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people in your position who you, know they just
Speaker 1: want to stick on the men's. Side but you have
Speaker 1: been a big supporter of, Us.
Speaker 3: So thank you my, PLEASURE i mean you're human.
Speaker 1: Beings, yeah thank you human.
Speaker 3: Beings and you play you play a sport that is growing.
Speaker 5: Immensely, yep and, uh you, know sharing a piece of
Speaker 5: a pot is.
Speaker 3: CRITICAL i think for a multitude of.
Speaker 5: REASONS i think number, one, like growing, UP i played
Speaker 5: one of the first COACHES i ever. Had his name
Speaker 5: was Rich, leary and he coaches team The New Jersey.
Speaker 5: Demons and we had a girl on our team Named Asia.
Speaker 5: Jones And asia played At.
Speaker 1: Yukon, YEAH i was gonna, say why DO i know?
Speaker 5: That she was an absolute Savage and we worked out
Speaker 5: all the time together and my coach was so cool
Speaker 5: BECAUSE I a six were so part of the game
Speaker 5: AND i would see all these guys play and it
Speaker 5: was always running up and down And duncan and he
Speaker 5: would be, like all, right, ja like let's do ballhandling
Speaker 5: and he.
Speaker 3: Do it with like the, girls right and like some
Speaker 3: of the. Girls i'm, like her handle is better than. Mine,
Speaker 3: YEAH i.
Speaker 2: Work she talks about all the time how like the
Speaker 2: W nba fundamentals.
Speaker 3: Are it's just.
Speaker 1: BETTER i, mean but it has to be like you
Speaker 1: guys are just way more, athletic where we have to
Speaker 1: have our.
Speaker 5: Fundamentals SO i learned at a young, age AND i
Speaker 5: think just being around a lot of women's, players LIKE
Speaker 5: i would hear LIKE i would hear all these, stories
Speaker 5: like WHEN i was in, College LIKE i would listen
Speaker 5: To sue like super talk about like going over and
Speaker 5: what she had to do going, Overseas LIKE dt is
Speaker 5: an absolute, beast AND i will watch down to her
Speaker 5: tell stories about going. Overseas i'm, like, wait they can
Speaker 5: just cut your contract and she's, like, yeah they just
Speaker 5: cut our. Contract WHENEVER i would hear all these stories
Speaker 5: And i'm, Like, yo this is just. Wild i'm, like you're,
Speaker 5: here you play here for several mile, months and then
Speaker 5: you go over there because you can make three four
Speaker 5: x with.
Speaker 3: That that's the way they treat you over. There it's
Speaker 3: just so as you watch this sport grow and grow and, grow.
Speaker 5: Like and also Like i'll be really guys Like i've
Speaker 5: always been passionate about, it and they're, like my oldest
Speaker 5: like is starting to love. Basketball she loves, basketball, right
Speaker 5: so you start thinking about the future of the. SPORT
Speaker 5: i already thought about it that, way but, now like
Speaker 5: WHEN i take my daughter to A liberty game.
Speaker 3: And you're like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah so, like, OH i have a platform and for, me,
Speaker 5: like once, AGAIN i don't like to see anybody taken advantage.
Speaker 5: Of so, yeah like we're just going to dive into
Speaker 5: the subject And i'm going to stand up for WHAT
Speaker 5: i think is right AND i. DO i was glad
Speaker 5: that you guys decided to take a stand because at some,
Speaker 5: day like at some, point you have to be the
Speaker 5: advocate for yourself because in any big, business they're going
Speaker 5: to keep trying to they say they're going to do
Speaker 5: the right, thing but they're in the business to make,
Speaker 5: mats to make.
Speaker 3: Profit LIKE i.
Speaker 1: APPRECIATE i think that it's really. Cool when we talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about it With Alison, feaster when she
Speaker 1: was talking because she's with The Boston, celtics she does
Speaker 1: stuff with their front, office and she was, LIKE i
Speaker 1: love that you're hearing. More kobe kind of started the
Speaker 1: trend of. IT i would, say you, know the orange.
Speaker 1: Sweatshirt but like all THE nba guys and people who
Speaker 1: play at a high, level they love our, sporm they respect.
Speaker 1: It it's cool when you see someone with your, background your,
Speaker 1: platform and now you have a daughter and you're just
Speaker 1: even more invested because hopefully us players now when it's
Speaker 1: her time to, shine it's way better than we could
Speaker 1: have ever, imagined you know WHAT i. Mean and SO
Speaker 1: i think every little piece is. Important and THE cba
Speaker 1: it was super. Important it was, huge and we fought
Speaker 1: for you, know our revenue share was the biggest. Thing
Speaker 1: our salary cap is way, better you.
Speaker 5: Know so it's interesting like how the public frame something
Speaker 5: as opposed to what it actually.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 5: Right so like a lot of times for the w
Speaker 5: IT'S i hear it's come up a lot in. Commentary,
Speaker 5: well like THE nba, subsidizes, right and you're, like, well
Speaker 5: that's investment like it, should, right and THE nba is
Speaker 5: looking to get that investment. Back and as you see
Speaker 5: this asset continue to grow and, grow that that's why
Speaker 5: the media write steals.
Speaker 1: Better.
Speaker 5: Right SO i think you're you're starting to see In
Speaker 5: one of the THINGS i hear a lot on is like, Academies,
Speaker 5: LIKE i really think, guys that we're moving toward day and.
Speaker 5: Age LIKE i sit on the board For Overtime. Elite
Speaker 5: it's a really big conversation.
Speaker 1: Academies, Yes, OH.
Speaker 5: I think it's a really BIG i think in particular
Speaker 5: for women's. Basketball it's going to become bigger and bigger and.
Speaker 3: Bigger love this, Right david L, Yeah David laido used
Speaker 3: to be the assistant coach AT.
Speaker 2: Uq recruited me for a, while so he went To
Speaker 2: dave went to Rock, bridge we went to high.
Speaker 3: School.
Speaker 5: Wow, YEAH i Love dave l all. Time polase tell
Speaker 5: my absolutely. Will so it's interesting that when we talk
Speaker 5: about kids getting, paid, right it's such a polarizing topic in.
Speaker 5: College you know a lot of people, say, well you,
Speaker 5: know it takes away from the. Sport i'm, like, okay
Speaker 5: well it's been taken away from has it been taken
Speaker 5: away from? Tennis has been taken away from? Boff like
Speaker 5: has been taken away from? Overseas like everybody gets into
Speaker 5: a conversation Around luca right now in his, hamstring, Right
Speaker 5: AND i talk a lot about and athlete. Habits, yeah,
Speaker 5: okay well you become a pro and you don't know
Speaker 5: what you don't. Know now as a, COACH i can
Speaker 5: mold your, habits, Right luca's been a pro since he's
Speaker 5: been fourteen years.
Speaker 1: Old, yeah, yeah, Valid so a.
Speaker 5: Lot of his habits are habits that he's not going to. Change,
Speaker 5: Yeah And he's been rewarded for those habits over and.
Speaker 5: Over so you, know In europe this is a this
Speaker 5: is a common. Thing you could be a pro when you're.
Speaker 5: Fourteen look at all these academies in.
Speaker 1: Soccer, well when you are like a pro, pro they
Speaker 1: have kids who are thirteen fourteen that are kind of
Speaker 1: like our practice players who do get, paid and then
Speaker 1: they're just like developing them than to take our. Spots
Speaker 1: so it's but it's. Smart. Smart.
Speaker 5: Yeah SO i look at this as trade, school AND
Speaker 5: i think it's going to start. Happening it's the same
Speaker 5: way when you think about in five years where it's
Speaker 5: gonna be some of the highest paying jobs like.
Speaker 3: Plumbers. Yep nobody wants to, So like at some point
Speaker 3: when you get your.
Speaker 5: Education you guys both graduate from, school you're, like what
Speaker 5: DID i major? In, Yeah, like is it actually applicable
Speaker 5: to like Anything i'm doing right? Now if you want
Speaker 5: to be involved in, sports if you're a young girl
Speaker 5: you want to be A wnba, player doesn't it make
Speaker 5: sense for you to learn about the business of. Basketball
Speaker 5: you could be an, agent you could be A gm
Speaker 5: you could be a, president you can be a lawyer for.
Speaker 3: Somebody there's so many different jobs.
Speaker 2: In academies or be not just training but. Educational you're
Speaker 2: going to change the whole.
Speaker 1: Curriculum because the only reason, why AND i KNOW i
Speaker 1: speak for probably a lot of, people we knew that
Speaker 1: there were overseas players who didn't go to college because
Speaker 1: they were already getting. Paid the only reason WHY i
Speaker 1: truly went to college is because that was the next
Speaker 1: step In america to become A wnba, player to become a.
Speaker 1: Pro but also to your, point AND i think social
Speaker 1: media there's good things about, it there's bad things about,
Speaker 1: it BUT i also think that it's shown a lot
Speaker 1: Of i'm speaking on the female side of, things those
Speaker 1: types of. Jobs like growing, UP i had no, Ideas
Speaker 1: LIKE i had no. IDEA i was, like, OH gm
Speaker 1: had no idea that we could do. That you know
Speaker 1: WHAT i, mean you know nothing about. It they don't
Speaker 1: tell you anything about. It and SO i feel, like
Speaker 1: you go to college and you have to in the sports,
Speaker 1: world it's either you're playing or YOU'RE i don't, know
Speaker 1: you just don't get taught the sports business as much
Speaker 1: AS i wish you. Would SO i just.
Speaker 5: Got done speaking AT Usa, Basketball Like Jim, tooley And
Speaker 5: Sean ford then in the men's, program AND i would
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Speaker 5: Pick everybody raise their? Hand who in here wants to
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Speaker 5: Hand SO i picked the one And i'm, like, hey
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Speaker 5: in the? Draft he said, yes? SIR i, said. Cool
Speaker 5: how much does the first pick in the draft? Make
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Speaker 5: know what the first pick in the draft? Makes how
Speaker 5: much is your contract inflated by on an annual?
Speaker 3: Basis no one knows. ANYTHING i don't know.
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Speaker 5: like let's say you made a million, dollars, right you're
Speaker 5: twenty one years. Old you made a million, dollars, Right, okay,
Speaker 5: great drafted By. Miami you both live In, miami, right
Speaker 5: but where are you going to. Live, yeah and he's, like,
Speaker 5: Oh i'm going to live in my own high. Rise i'm,
Speaker 5: like all, right, cool how are you gonna spend for your?
Speaker 5: Partner he's two hundred thousand, Iars, like two hundred thousand.
Speaker 5: Dollars it doesn't get you anything In miami. Now he's
Speaker 5: like eight hundred thousand. Dollars i'm, like all, right, cool
Speaker 5: what kind of caring in the? Drive, yes and he's,
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Speaker 5: Yeah i'm, like AM I you're gonna spend in their?
Speaker 5: House he's like a million. Dollars i'm, Like yo're already.
Speaker 5: Over you're only netting six hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Dollars bigger picture would this pie so that people don't
Speaker 2: have to also then waste money on other people to
Speaker 2: manage their money if people just knew how.
Speaker 3: To do, It BECAUSE i, mean to know how to
Speaker 3: ask the right, question that's the right.
Speaker 2: Question, Yeah AND.
Speaker 1: I think like we in our high, school which is,
Speaker 1: crazy we had financial, advising which was, nice AND i
Speaker 1: think everyone should have to take that especially kids who
Speaker 1: are getting paid that type of. Money take the financial,
Speaker 1: courses like know where your money's. Going, no the tax
Speaker 1: like another THING i didn't. Know everywhere we play you
Speaker 1: get taxed in that, State like you get taxed it
Speaker 1: every ever you stick because we're an entertainment business and
Speaker 1: so it's just like little things like that.
Speaker 3: And it's all applicable.
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Speaker 5: i use my points My marriott Like bombo like reward, points.
Speaker 3: Like so es we just putting me on the road
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Speaker 5: Marriott i'll stay, here give them my, number get my,
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Speaker 3: Over i'm LIKE i could take my family on a.
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Speaker 3: It but these are things that people have to teach
Speaker 3: you how to. Do if, not they just go. UNNOTICED,
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