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Speaker 2: Doctor.

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Speaker 3: All right, Rory.

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Speaker 4: Today we are back with a new episode, and we

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Speaker 4: are joined. We got another guest, probably a guest that

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Speaker 4: I think we've both been wanting to sit down and

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Speaker 4: talk to for a minute.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's probably the most excited I've been for a

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Speaker 5: guess in a minute. And I don't mean that in

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Speaker 5: a bad way to our other guestscause everyone's great. Everyone,

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Speaker 5: every guest is the greatest guest you've ever had.

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Speaker 1: But this is somebody we're supposed to somebody.

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Speaker 5: It's somebody I've argued with, like I've yelled at the phone,

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Speaker 5: I've yelled about like with this person.

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Speaker 2: I've never met them.

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Speaker 3: I've raised my eyebrow.

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Speaker 1: What do you just say? What do you just saying?

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Speaker 4: But he's one of the guys that I respect because

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Speaker 4: he's actually done it.

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Speaker 3: He has knowledge in the game.

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Speaker 2: An R music manager.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's worked with you know everybody, Lizzo, Beyonce, Ran

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Speaker 4: The Future, you know, he's so, he's an ELI chopper. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's one of the he's one of the guys that

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Speaker 4: I respect. But when he says certain things, I'd be like, yo,

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Speaker 4: I wonder I want to ray first back and forth

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Speaker 4: line because then it comes across the world. So today

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Speaker 4: we are joined by raced love Me, Love Me by

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Speaker 4: far the last the last year some of my favorite

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Speaker 4: content that's that's come out of this music podcasting space,

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Speaker 4: because I do feel like this got oversaturated the way

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Speaker 4: everything has.

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Speaker 1: So it's very tough to find people that are just

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Speaker 1: starting in this game where it's like refreshing, like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this person's gonna say.

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Speaker 1: As I told ma, I took, I said we should

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Speaker 1: have did you two years ago? I'm like, bro, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't ready. I had to earn this, Like I feel

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Speaker 1: like I earned this seat, like I feel like when

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Speaker 1: I did other shows. It's because who I am and

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Speaker 1: what I've done, and I got relationships with everybody, so

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Speaker 1: I can cheat my way into certain rooms. But it's

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Speaker 1: those rooms of people who don't know you, who's like

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Speaker 1: I found you online, but I respect what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: so I appreciate that you work with my brother Yeah

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Speaker 1: that no, listen, your brothers are my family, bro. So

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Speaker 1: when they told me, when they told me you were

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Speaker 1: they family, I was like, that makes sense because from

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Speaker 1: our space, it takes a lot to be to do

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Speaker 1: what we do, like and go outside and like and

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Speaker 1: like give your opinion right, Like it's hard to do this.

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Speaker 1: So when I see you, I'm like, oh, he talks

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Speaker 1: like he doesn't give a fuck. He has to come

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Speaker 1: from something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he comes from something.

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Speaker 1: He talks like I don't care if they called me,

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Speaker 1: like I don't give a fuck, Like I'm a stand

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 5: And even on top of that, because I mean, despite

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Speaker 5: what podcasts, fans and listeners think, our opinions are not

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Speaker 5: bought based off our relationships. I've worked in the major

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Speaker 5: label system.

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Speaker 1: You have as well.

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Speaker 5: Mall is from fucking hip hop royalty family. The amount

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Speaker 5: of calls I have gotten with people I've worked with,

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Speaker 5: like yo, can you say this nah? Or get mad

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Speaker 5: at you when you start saying shit on the micro

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Speaker 5: fountains going to come very taxing of.

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Speaker 1: Like, yo, we worked together for ten years at Universal. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say nothing disrespectful, but I'm always gonna

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Speaker 1: have my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Have you ran into that at all?

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Speaker 1: You know? This is this has been the hardest journey

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Speaker 1: for me, and I feel like I'm just getting into

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Speaker 1: the place where I'm having fun, Like like I got

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Speaker 1: online and start talking out of desperation, Like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like I wanted to. Like, if I didn't write this letter,

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Speaker 1: dear white music execs, I'm probably EVP of president of

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Speaker 1: a label right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I wrote a letter that.

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Speaker 1: Put a light on me, that made my peers see

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Speaker 1: me as black.

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Speaker 2: I was clear.

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Speaker 1: So like I would be in the room working on

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Speaker 1: records for Zara Larson, Pussycat Dolls, all these pop acts,

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Speaker 1: and they'll ask me what I think, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I grew up listening to eight Ball and MJG. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving you my subjective opinion. I'm giving you

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Speaker 1: my objective opinion. Like I know objectively how to make records.

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Speaker 1: But it's been hard, bro. That's why I'm glad I'm here,

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Speaker 1: because if I would have got it earlier, it would

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Speaker 1: have been like, oh, they probably just know them from

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Speaker 1: such and such. That's why they let them on. Like

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Speaker 1: this is a real journey I'm on because I feel

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Speaker 1: like I see the future and I'm like, and I

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Speaker 1: talk to God every day, and I'm like, I know

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Speaker 1: what needs to be done, Like y'all are more of

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Speaker 1: the future than they are. They just have the infrastructure

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Speaker 1: and the history, so they are arrogant about it. But like,

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was coming up in the music

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Speaker 1: business when shakir knew your name. If kp knew your name,

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Speaker 1: you will if your brother hip hop me. I remember

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Speaker 1: the first time your brother called me and he said, ray,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm in the game.

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Speaker 2: H yeah, my name.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I came up in that industry.

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Speaker 1: And then when I finally got to my top SVP title,

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Speaker 1: instead of signing what I wanted, I signed what they

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Speaker 2: So now it was like, well, we signed what they

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Speaker 1: Then, like we should all be outside because like and

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Speaker 1: then you start realizing, like y'all don't know how to pick.

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Speaker 1: Because see, what people don't know about a major label

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Speaker 1: is when they sign you, they're betting a million dollars

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Speaker 1: off top because even if they gave you half a million,

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Speaker 1: they know they have to commit to video, spending.

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Speaker 2: Travel, so like they're betting on the write off.

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Speaker 1: But even if it's a write off, they still know

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Speaker 1: they got to spend. So my point is, if they

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Speaker 1: have one hundred million allocated, they only can spend sign

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Speaker 1: a certain It's not that they can sign five hundred

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Speaker 1: things and see what works like or it's not that

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Speaker 1: they can say we're gonna give instead of giving one

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Speaker 1: hundred artists a million, we're going to give a thousand artists.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what, Like you're making it bigger like it's

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Speaker 2: This is an exclusive thing we're in.

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Speaker 1: So once I started realizing we were letting anything in,

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Speaker 1: anybody in, and it was like, like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm that nigga, Like I feel like I've earned the

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Speaker 1: I come in a room and I got to sell

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Speaker 1: you to an art myself to an artist, that's weird

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Speaker 2: I knew who Shake was, I knew who it was.

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Speaker 2: I knew who Kaiser was.

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Speaker 1: You had to know the players to be in the game,

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Speaker 1: but now you don't have to. All you got to

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Speaker 1: do is make some noise online. And now they're treating

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Speaker 1: you like you're the next big thing and you feeling it,

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Speaker 1: but you don't even know.

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Speaker 2: They just need that record.

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Speaker 1: They don't have no they don't know what to do

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Speaker 1: with you after they get that record, and they know

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Speaker 1: you need a record, You need a record. They all

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Speaker 1: that means I'm hot. The record don't have to work, y'all,

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Speaker 1: the record don't have to make no money. But the

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Speaker 1: fact that I got the deal tells the company he's

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Speaker 1: I signed an Lee Chopper, it was like a huge

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Speaker 1: moment because it was like, how did you get that?

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Speaker 1: You beat baby? How did you do that? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I just stayed in it, and I just know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a human bro. I know how to close shit, Like,

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Speaker 1: I know what I want to hear.

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Speaker 2: I know what I heard.

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Speaker 1: I know the buffalers told me to make me say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's off in four hundred, he's off in five hundred,

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Speaker 1: he's off in this. But I like him the most.

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Speaker 1: I know what that what he said. So I just

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Speaker 1: it's like being a human bro. Just fuck with people

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think even like, well, what you're doing, you know.

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Speaker 5: Being a former VPA and R, we've always talked about

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Speaker 5: the irv's dames, like those type of execs not existing anymore.

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Speaker 5: Of course, we have QC, we have Orlando. We have

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Speaker 5: great execs, don't get me wrong, but not ones that

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Speaker 5: are forward facing, Like if you could imagine if IRV

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Speaker 5: and Dame had TWITCH in two thousand and one. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if they'd make music anymore, but do you

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Speaker 5: think that that's kind of missing where there is an

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Speaker 5: Dame were entertaining, they're both they were both recipes or

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Speaker 5: geniuses in their own right. Yes, on a marketing side

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Speaker 5: and business side, but they are also you.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask y'all something. I have a statement

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Speaker 1: that I want to make to y'all. I believe that

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Speaker 1: the moment on backstage when Dame cursed out Kevin Lywles,

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Speaker 2: Every before just agree with it. Hit me out.

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Speaker 1: Everybody from that point forward. If you're watching Dame and Kevin,

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Speaker 1: I know everybody that I was with wanted to be Dame.

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Speaker 1: Which man, you wanted to have your own stay outside

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Speaker 1: It was like you a tou you lame, So we

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Speaker 1: almost lamed ourselves out the building and now the lames

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Speaker 2: So I think that.

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Speaker 1: So to me, it's like, you got to understand a

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Speaker 1: cool nigga's not intimidated by another cool nigga walking in

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Speaker 2: You know some shit I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But when you're not a cool nigga, cool niggas intimidate you.

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Speaker 2: Like nigga.

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Speaker 1: I remember me and adult. I knew it was different

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Speaker 1: when I signed this kid two K baby. First thing

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Speaker 1: he asked me, now do I know Timbland?

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Speaker 3: Now do I know? For real?

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Speaker 1: Do you know Gary Vee? I'm like what he was like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: can you get me in the room with Gary V?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, why the fuck do you want to

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Speaker 1: talk to Gary Vee? What the fuck does he do?

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Speaker 1: You think he knows more than me? I mean, for me,

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Speaker 1: it was just it was interesting because you know when

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Speaker 1: I want to work with Timbland, I'm like FaceTime timbling

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Speaker 1: my nigga, I work with Jamaine. You get those relationships

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Speaker 1: you take pride. No, So I'm like, who you want

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Speaker 1: to work with? And you say a name.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Like, that's what you want to do?

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Speaker 1: So you start understanding, like the world is different, you

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Speaker 1: rather talk to Gary Vee. And then that made me say,

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Speaker 1: So I knew the whole. I knew all the labels

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Speaker 1: What years were you at Epic twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen?

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Speaker 5: I asked that question because one of my first gigs

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Speaker 3: Over to Epic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, were you there the day that Bobby Schmurder was

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Speaker 1: Yo, Gotti wants him. It's this whole thing. He's in

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Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest executives, like as a black

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I want to last though, like what did Epic,

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Speaker 5: Like what did y'all think when that video went viral

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that was the way you got the

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Speaker 1: know the story of Nelly. Nelly was signed, he got

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, it was that was a little crazy. Yo

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Speaker 2: But everybody else in the room.

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Speaker 1: If y'all, Bob y'all head right, say, and we in

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Speaker 1: a meeting, bro, and I like, I want to sign her.

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Speaker 1: She's with us, and I'm like, I'm signing her, y'all,

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Speaker 1: So sometimes you gotta And that's another tactic that we

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you just stare at the camera.

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Speaker 1: You stare at the artists in the eye and you

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Speaker 1: Nobody usually gets in front of an audience and it's

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Speaker 1: You gotta go out there hopefully make an impression. So

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean, I've been in plenty of conference

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Speaker 5: You know, he was a young kid from Flatbush. That's

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Speaker 5: how he acts like. I don't think he was doing

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Speaker 2: They bring in new new challenge you. I can tell you.

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Speaker 1: By the way. A shout out to la Read because

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Speaker 1: in Sierra's Jackie album. So this is Sierra. She's a

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Speaker 1: I'm walking my artists out. I know I got to

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Speaker 1: Money and what's my man name?

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Speaker 2: I'm a classic.

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Speaker 1: Man, Jandenna Jdnna And they all dressed like Michael Jackson

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Speaker 2: I'm a classic man.

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Speaker 1: Nigga La told me after it was done, that's how

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Speaker 1: But that's how you get a label excited. You make

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Speaker 1: see you. And I was like, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: So you're right, bro, but it's also a necessary evil.

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Speaker 1: I need to see if you can do this, because

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Speaker 1: see if you're gonna do this, it's gonna be pile

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Speaker 1: on my face. Nobody likes him, he doesn't perform, it

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Speaker 4: But the talent level, and we was talking off Mike

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Speaker 4: We can sprinkle talent around you, but you have to

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: What you just described has been the industry for the

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Speaker 1: one sage in the market. I'm like, the number one sage,

438
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 1: like you know, like that's the shit you like. I'm like,

439
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,600
Speaker 1: I never thought I would hear that from I'm trying

440
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,600
Speaker 1: to tell you, let's put on more music, and you're like, nah,

441
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,320
Speaker 1: we got the number one sage. We enjoy what we

442
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 1: at artists, artists treating themselves like spokesman and just selling

443
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,240
Speaker 1: whatever they could sell.

444
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 2: If it's music, cool, but if.

445
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,280
Speaker 1: It's this shirt, and I can make ten million doing that.

446
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 1: As long as I got rich, I won. And that's

447
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 1: not the artist. Lauryn Hill was sick as she wasn't

448
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 1: on top. You understand I'm trying to say, like these

449
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson would be depressed if he wasn't the biggest

450
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,639
Speaker 1: in the world. Like I remember Michael Jackson's documentary Bad Documentary, No,

451
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,479
Speaker 1: not the the bad, Yeah bad, And Michael was calling

452
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 1: the CEO of the label Mark not cares about but

453
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 1: the guy I forgot Walker yetnikov and and Mike will

454
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 1: be calling him saying, we're not number one yet, what

455
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? We're not number one? Think about that.

456
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 1: Michael fucking Jackson from Thriller one hundred million is calling

457
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 1: his labelhad like, we're not number one? What are we

458
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 1: doing to get number one? That's why it worked. These

459
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 1: artists don't care about number one, they care about money.

460
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 4: I'm rich alsto the labels care about money too, and

461
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 4: I think a lot of that is the labels are like, listen,

462
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 4: we don't care how we make this money. We don't

463
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 4: care about the artists after the artist is done here,

464
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 4: like we want to make money. And I think that

465
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 4: a lot of the you know, the problems or the

466
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 4: lack of great music that we have is because the

467
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 4: mindset changed in both the labels as well as the artists.

468
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 2: But would y'all not say that, stay right there?

469
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: But would you not then blame it on the shareholders?

470
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 3: Right?

471
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: Because like, if you invest in the music, you have

472
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: to know you're investing in music being invested in music

473
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: and don't want to take no else.

474
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 2: Who the hell do you know? You were all teaming

475
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 2: this shit?

476
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 5: Wait, hold on, what P and L sheet has music

477
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 5: on it? You can't hear a P and L sheet?

478
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 1: They care about what you mean, that's what they care about.

479
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 5: But even we talked about the Big Three as far

480
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 5: as major labels, Big three is now with streaming services

481
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 5: with movies, and they're just regurgitating.

482
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 1: Every Marvel movie that ever happened.

483
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Speaker 3: They up.

484
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck about film.

485
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 5: You think they give a fuck about music, it's a

486
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 5: P and L sheet, but in trouble and on.

487
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Speaker 1: Top of that, you should have sound fucked up.

488
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,239
Speaker 5: Sorry to cut you off, It did start too when

489
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 5: you have people Hove I'm a hustler.

490
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 2: Just so happened. I know how to rap.

491
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 5: I'm not Hoove loves music, you know, that's a music

492
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 5: nerd at the end of the day. But his goal

493
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 5: at the end of the day was not for his

494
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 5: love of music. Hole was trying to get the fuck

495
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Speaker 5: out the projects.

496
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 2: You're trying to get that money.

497
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 5: As he fucking should. Jez was trying to get the

498
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 5: fuck out of Macombe, Georgia. Like they wouldn't do that

499
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 5: if it didn't lead to a financial situation. Now they

500
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 5: happen to be extremely talented at what they do.

501
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: These kids are just looking at the lick like that's

502
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you, Like everybody just going YouTube do

503
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: it like Jay came from the greatness code.

504
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: Jay thought. Jay cared with.

505
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: Big thought, Jay cared with nas thought, he cared with

506
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: jazz thought. That's what made him great. These new sexy

507
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: Red doesn't give a fuck with with Lauren thinks about

508
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: her music. She don't care what Nikki thinks about her

509
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: music because I'm rich, and that's the problem. You're gonna

510
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: get rich, but there has to be a respect part

511
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: to it, whereas like I want the respect of their peers.

512
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: So that's why even me like you starting up saying

513
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: we saw these guys like that's respect to me. That

514
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 1: means I heard someone speak like my peer. So I

515
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: want to talk to you rather than like, who the

516
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: fuck is this guy?

517
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 2: Where did he come from?

518
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: So a lot of it is just you know, putting

519
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: it out and hope they find it. But like people

520
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: don't care no more. That's my problem, Like you don't

521
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: care what with your idols, think about what you're doing

522
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: right now.

523
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Speaker 5: I mean, the goal was always that no matter who

524
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 5: it was. Again, back to the Jay example. Jay is

525
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 5: so smart. If he didn't know he was one of

526
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 5: the best rappers, he wouldn't have looked at that as

527
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: a lick. Now, the link doesn't need talent, do you,

528
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 5: Like Jez had to kind of learn how to even

529
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Speaker 5: though he's in the South.

530
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: But I think if you.

531
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Speaker 5: Compare right now to Jez Jesus the crazy Jesu's Nos

532
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: as far as lyricism goes, compared to what's going on

533
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 5: now and his catalog is so much because he knew

534
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 5: that that's what it took to be in the market,

535
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 5: and the market doesn't call for that.

536
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 2: But this goal was the exact same. Jez and Hole

537
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: was trying to get.

538
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: Rich, but it was trying to do Is it just

539
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 4: an our culture though, because I don't think this happens

540
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 4: outside of hip hop and outside of.

541
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Speaker 5: You know, I think, as you think people aren't for

542
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 5: the love of stocks, I think it's.

543
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Speaker 1: Our culture because our culture is the poorest, right. Our

544
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: culture came from poor people not having anything, saying let's

545
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: create something. So I think that hip hop is our extract.

546
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: I guess how we can make money. And like, my

547
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: mother will be driving school buses right now for twenty

548
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a month if it wasn't for hip hop,

549
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for her son having an opportunity at

550
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: hip hop to retire her in twenty twelve. So to me,

551
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: hip hop is our savior. But we're allowing it to

552
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: be a joke. And that's my issue where it's like,

553
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't mind a jokey artist, but can we get

554
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: some real? But you can't get real if you don't

555
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: have real execs in the seats, and these people can't

556
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: tell you. And there's a few like Sycamore, Larry Jackson

557
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: dash over at a giffing. There's a few that are

558
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: really good. Orlando gret Orlando. It's like Orlando, if it's

559
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: some shit happened, I don't give a fuck. If it's

560
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: in a third world country. Orlando's gonna pull up with

561
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: his jury on and a Rose Royce and he gonna

562
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: close it. That's what makes him a great executive, right.

563
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: He's like music, Yeah, and you got to you have

564
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: to understand that part. We don't have that part no more.

565
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: It's like like I remember having to play a record

566
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: for La to get it out. Now you don't have

567
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: to play records that get it out. You don't just

568
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: put it out. You need twenty dollars, three dollars at

569
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: some places, like just put it out free at some place.

570
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: We'll take our money on the back end.

571
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: So I think they made it the entry so low

572
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: that everybody's coming in.

573
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: But I think it's fading. I think we passed that.

574
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: I think that the music is about to get back

575
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: to what it was because the gold rush is over.

576
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: Like when the last time a TikTok artists made like

577
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: was it?

578
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: Jello?

579
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: Jello's probably the last TikTok artist that had a bid

580
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: and war that had like and look at what happened

581
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: with that. So it's like with TikTok, no break deal

582
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: seven million, eight million, eight million?

583
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: He thought that was great.

584
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 5: No, I thought it was a great deal for death Champ.

585
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 5: But I think they recouped in two months, no hell

586
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 5: on their investment.

587
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: Oh y'all out, y'r mind.

588
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 5: This is why I think it's crazy you're saying this

589
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: because you're worth ten million, thirteen million.

590
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: You're one of the few people that.

591
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 5: That understands streaming that's on YouTube talking about the shit.

592
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: You don't think that.

593
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: They made their money back and in the span of

594
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Speaker 5: the months that that.

595
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Speaker 1: Jello had you know what, It depends on how big

596
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Speaker 1: they market share was.

597
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 2: So let me get you an example.

598
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Speaker 1: Let's say if they will point eight market share and

599
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Speaker 1: Jello record took them one point one, that point three

600
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: percent jump is worth more than eight million dollars. You're

601
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: right about that, but it's just the way streaming is

602
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: paid out. So that's why that's another thing we're not

603
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: rewarding the greatest. We're just like it don't matter. It's

604
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: like I made money this court, I keep my job.

605
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: And it's like I remember La told me. He was

606
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: telling me about Clive and he was like, Ray, I've

607
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: never had the number one artist in the world.

608
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Nigga, you signed Bieber.

609
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, they were huge, but Clive had

610
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: Whitney and you know me, I'm like, I know Whitney

611
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: was big, but to me in the nineties, I think

612
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: Rihanna is just as big.

613
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: And he was like, you have no idea.

614
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Speaker 1: La doesn't come from the world where having a hit

615
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: and making money makes him happy. He would be sick

616
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: if he had a hit and he was making money.

617
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: He needs a superstar. But that's what he feeds off.

618
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: La is one of like the last music men again

619
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Speaker 2: President So like.

620
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Speaker 5: Shot Steve Bartle's like everyone that's involved Lucy whatever, they're

621
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 5: not music Like La, You're you're talking a foreign language

622
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 5: right now.

623
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Speaker 2: Yes, ways, so I hear you.

624
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Speaker 5: But nah, Jello with Sinks made that back in two

625
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: fucking months.

626
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: He probably did. But but but here's the thing. What

627
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: happens when somebody else comes in the run? What a

628
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: deaf jam deal. What happens when the next person comes

629
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: in the room. The viral record where you think he

630
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell death? And first of all, I don't think

631
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: he got thirteen liquid. I think they put it up

632
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: against something and they made it back on what what

633
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: they put up. I think he made a little bit

634
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: of change, but they put against the loan that they had. Yes,

635
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: for sure, but the way streaming pays out, if he

636
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: helped their market share jump a few points, it's.

637
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: Worth over eight million.

638
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: Like if that five if I made three hundred motherfucking

639
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: million and they got to pay you one hundred and

640
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: fifty million, And it's based on market share, so that

641
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: means if it's one hundred million, you get eight hundred thousand.

642
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: Death Ja was worth it, yes, So I'm like, so

643
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: that's what he did it for. But yeah, I wouldn't

644
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: let that number get out. I can't believe they left.

645
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: But did you with a little nigga company? You gave

646
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Joe eight million?

647
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: I won nine?

648
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: Right? Right?

649
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: I mean to me, that that marketing, I think respectfully,

650
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: anyone that does like announce those those numbers and shit,

651
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 5: it's stupid just because of IRS. But to me, that's

652
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 5: marketing with all right, you guys in the bidding war

653
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 5: that was for Jello. You started the bidding war when

654
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 5: you already had to deal with him for marketing purposes.

655
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 5: You're putting that number out to make Jello seem bigger

656
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 5: than he really is. In that regard, it's like, oh, never,

657
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: may I gotta pay attention.

658
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: To It's gonna give you some information. I don't even

659
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: i'mupposed to say this, but fuck it. When we signed

660
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: an elite Choppa his we gave him eight million. That

661
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: was the biggest deal in Warner Records history in the

662
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Atlantic for new artists. And the way the deal was

663
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: set up, we got we didn't get his Masters because

664
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: he had a partnership with United Masters, so we had

665
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: the income. Yeah, nigga, I think nine months in we

666
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: got a three point seven million dollar check from United Masters.

667
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: Now think about how big Choppa was compared to how big.

668
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: One song from Jello is.

669
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think people understand standing numbers like

670
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: and by the way, you and Masters might pay differently

671
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: compared to major labels how to get streaming. But I

672
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: know we were cooped. I ain't gonna lie we getting

673
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: an eight millen. I was like, Man, we fucked. I

674
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: was like, I guess we ain't gonna never get that back.

675
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: I mean, Alie Trappers not not my type of shit,

676
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: But I would guess he's somewhere in the twenty million

677
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: as far as value of which he would bring to

678
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 5: a label.

679
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: He probably makes.

680
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: He probably makes Warner about fifteen to twenty five million

681
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: that year, whether he puts out an album or not. Yeah,

682
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: just with the back catalog that he has already. That's

683
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: made me never take a job again. That's why I

684
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: can't do what I did again. I can't like, i

685
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: ain't been at that company in four years and I'm

686
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: still making tens of millions of dollars and I don't

687
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: get no royalties, no nothing. I'll never help somebody get

688
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: rich again and not have something on the back end

689
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: for me.

690
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 5: So all right, here's what change your business model. This

691
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: may be a quick NERD segment.

692
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Let's go. I like NERD moments. I agree that you

693
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: should be paid way more.

694
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: Okay, haste off that if you bring someone in and

695
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 5: they're bringing in this amount of money to a company,

696
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: I'm with you. I've seen a lot of a and

697
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: rs try to put themselves in splits. They that they

698
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: didn't fucking do. They're in PUBB that they didn't fucking do.

699
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 5: And to me, I hear you as an A and R.

700
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 5: You should make more money if you bring in someone

701
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 5: that is generating this type of income for a company.

702
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: But I've seen A and RS do some fucking wild shit.

703
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: Of wait, you have ten percent of this record? Why

704
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 5: why because you because you showed up that day and

705
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: transcribed the lyrics? Though, because they tell they because they

706
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: tell me, they say I produced it.

707
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: You ain't producing a fucking thing on here. This is

708
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: what they do.

709
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Rory and Mile is somebody y'all can get on the album.

710
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: You ain't nobody. I want ten percent if you make

711
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: the album. Me bringing them in the room, I'm supposed to.

712
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: They everybody want to work with them. Me bringing you

713
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: in a room. I'm not so I'm I'm bringing you

714
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: in the room. I'm gonna need a percent. I think

715
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: that's whack. I think that's dumb. And I always say,

716
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: like the person remembers it, like you know, the statement

717
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: they say, the actual gifts, but the tree remembers the

718
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: person that you took that little ten percent from. Will

719
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: always remember you the motherfucker that took from me when

720
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: I like a my worst moment, So like I hate that,

721
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: but like it's a big thing, bro, And it's just

722
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: like nobody has a problem. It's like nobody's saying nothing.

723
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: It's like we I can't believe this, Like just blake,

724
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Like I came up, you put your mama name, Like

725
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna put my name. I'm gonna put my

726
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: mother name. They ain't gonna know who that is. But

727
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: they just putting their name Like it's like damn, yeah, no, shame.

728
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Because my mind, I'm afraid of an artist. Like my

730
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: biggest fear, My biggest fear is a artist trying to

731
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: call me out, because when the artist calls you out.

732
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: You're done in this business, are you though?

733
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: Yes, name somebody theme somebody to recovered from a real

734
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: artist calling him out. Can you give me some examples.

735
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't think ERV recover after fifty called him out.

736
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: You think ir recovered after fifty called him out? Earth

737
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Like he got back to the same IRV got it

738
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: after fifty called him out.

739
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 5: No, I think a lot of that had to do

740
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: with the trial with Supreme and that came and then

741
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 5: being falsely accused of money laundering.

742
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not.

743
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: Arguing none of that, but what I'm I'm my point

744
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: is still in the socialiation that he got caught up in.

745
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: H Yeah, but that was just the That was the

746
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 5: perfect storm, the movie perfect storm when three storms come

747
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 5: together as one. Fifty was coming at one point. Uh,

748
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 5: at some point when you peak, you're going to start

749
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 5: to fall. Murder, inc owned everything. There's only one way

750
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: you can go after that. On top of that, all

751
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 5: of our assets are being frozen because I'm being falsely

752
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: accused of never giving pre money except to do a

753
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: fucking movie, which is legal. I don't understand when that

754
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 5: became illegal to give someone money to fund a movie

755
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: the movie to give you premun.

756
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Selling crack on talking about.

757
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: So, I think it was a perfect storm of those

758
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 5: three things, of the peak just hitting its peak and

759
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: starting to fall as everyone does the same way. Fifty

760
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: fifty at a peak and fell musically everyone hits that.

761
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: Why nobody working? So, I don't know what you're.

762
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: Saying to ask your question, why is nobody working with?

763
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: What's Mary J. Blig's husband name ex husband name? O?

764
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: God?

765
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Can do?

766
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: Can do?

767
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: You?

768
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: Can do, salute King Listen, can do.

769
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Can't manage anything now because married don't funk with him. Yeah,

770
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: but when married don't fuck with you, you're not on

771
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: the island no more.

772
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: You're done.

773
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: What you got to pick win for losing there?

774
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 5: You be the only man that gets alimony out of

775
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 5: a case in the history of the court system.

776
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: That's true. Own that shut the fuck up and sit

777
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: over there, but them table, but them tables you was

778
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: able to sit at? Oh yeah, of course, jay Z

779
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: table where you're sitting at. You're done. He can't come around.

780
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: One artist said he can't come around.

781
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: You're done. Pastor Troy did his masterpee. He killed him.

782
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: He killed No Limit. He killed No Limit.

783
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: I don't but again, I think that's more of a

784
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 5: perfect storm of what was going on with No Limit.

785
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Pastor Troy killed No Limit.

786
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I aint gonna lie bro I was in Atlanta. I

787
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: was there.

788
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: I was a nigger.

789
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: I thought I was a no limit soldier dog. I

790
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: wore no limit soldier. And then when Pastor Troy said,

791
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: tailp them down South, Georgia boys is ready for war.

792
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: I was living in Georgia. I'm like, man, forget them souls.

793
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm a down South Georgia. It's like artists can change

794
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: how people see people.

795
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

796
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: Biggie did it to Kwame the fucking polka dots is like,

797
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: what's one person that's new says your ship is old?

798
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: You are. Jay Z did.

799
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: It to t Pain death of Bottle Tone Paint.

800
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: Admitted it like y got good nice check though she

801
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: just told that catalog he got no.

802
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I think it pushed back. Let's go, this

803
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 5: is insane and this is whole Vengers. Let's you are

804
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 5: the most jay Z bias podcast of all time. If

805
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 5: there's one thing that jay Z did not end, the

806
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: death of Auto Tune.

807
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: Was a resurrection.

808
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 5: Jesus Christ walked again after that death, Auto Tune is

809
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 5: still here and it's the number one thing in rap

810
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: right now.

811
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Ja, he didn't kill Shit Pain. He did not kill

812
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Ta Pain. He did not kill He did not kill

813
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Wearing Tims anymore. That's the only two things jay Z

814
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: tried to kill and didn't kill.

815
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Jay Z killed, he killed. He might he might not have.

816
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: He killed Jerseys. Auto Tune he did kill Jerseys. He

817
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: did kill Rims.

818
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: He might not have killed auto tune, but he killed

819
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: the face of auto tune too much T painted like

820
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: when he said like T pain't even admitted it, like

821
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: his noney went.

822
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: From here age today that hurt pain though, did.

823
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: Hurt I think? I think T paint is.

824
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: How is that the case when you said death of

825
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 5: autotune and within the same months your number one artist

826
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 5: ever under you, Kanye West was an icon, stopped rapping

827
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 5: and did a fucking.

828
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: T Paint album with Atoys.

829
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: He did the album that he did the album because

830
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: his mother died. And the one thing that Yay did

831
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: with Ato Ways or Heartbreaks is that he kills auto

832
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: tune because his mother died. No, I think that he

833
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: was emotional. He went to sing, and I think he

834
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: was just trying something. I think I think his mother

835
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: dying triggered him to say I'm gonna go because my

836
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: father died played a huge role in me. Like I

837
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: when Delta called me back after nine to eleven, I

838
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: went back. My father died and I was like, man,

839
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: Bill Cobseley was my father. I wonder if I would

840
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: be working at Delta. It was like death. When you

841
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: as a parent, it changes how you see things. So

842
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I can see I can see that happening and being like.

843
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: I respect that point, and I think that's a separate

844
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 5: point that you're deflecting from.

845
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, he did not talk about I look at this.

846
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: Let's go, he did not kill altitude. What's he might

847
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: I say he killed?

848
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: He did?

849
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: He might not have killed auto tune. I'll give you

850
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: that because people still use it. I think he killed

851
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: the face of attotune, which was T Pain, And I

852
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: think T Pain was saying, listen, I think if T

853
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: Pap was sitting in his chair, he'll say, hell, ye

854
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: ain't fucked my business up?

855
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, for sure. There was a few

856
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: months where that was the case. D A came out

857
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 5: in what year old one would be my guest. T

858
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: Pain had a number one album after that.

859
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: He still had he still had bags people fucking with him.

860
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: So you know, T Pain, he Paint can make a

861
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: hit with anything.

862
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Like you know, black folks, weren't you and that Boody

863
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, no nigga like that, but like white

864
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: people was like gamming that, right.

865
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: So Three Rings came out this around the same time.

866
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: Okay, let's go that that shit happened, and now we're

867
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: going through Choppin Screw with Ludacris.

868
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: Chopin Screw.

869
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: That record was.

870
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: Fucking huge, true. Can't believe it with Lil Wayne, Oh,

871
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: I can't.

872
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: That came out after this was the same time that

873
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: day was happening. But you look at you saying, though

874
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: what you're saying about, But you're saying when you say

875
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: when you say little Way, when you say Little Wayne

876
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Speaker 1: and Ludacris, that's like saying he was accompanied by the sun.

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00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,600
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00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,200
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Speaker 1: Rose I agree with that.

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Speaker 5: I'm not mad everyone did aller like, all right, if

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890
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,000
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00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,000
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902
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Speaker 4: Ray you, one of the things that I definitely wanted

921
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: to talk to you about, let's go, was your stance

922
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: on uh, Drake's top tier rain being over as a

923
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 4: result of him.

924
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're talking suing during.

925
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: The whole battle thing. Now, let's let's let's be to that.

926
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: Do you think that Drake's rain at the top is over?

927
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 4: Do you think Drake's career will never be the same.

928
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: Do you think people will never look at Drake the

929
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: same as a result of suing the labels or just

930
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: as a result of the battle.

931
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I think all of it is one and the same.

932
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: And I love that you're a Drake fan and you

933
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: say some stuff. I'm like, come on, bro, you know,

934
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: but like what was like, like, nah, you team Drake like, hey, hey,

935
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: I think you said. I think you you are the

936
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: only person on record that is credible because a lot

937
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: of people say, but you're the only credible person I

938
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: know that, say, Kendrick Lost the only person that I

939
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: know to say that. So it's like that's a little

940
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: like God, damn, he really much thind.

941
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 4: Just turning though, I'm seeing more and more people say,

942
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: your family matters was the best record in the whole

943
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: beefs algorithm though.

944
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like like I'm my business partner. Alexis

945
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: is famous for telling me that's your algorithm because they

946
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: know what you interested in. He showed me something totally different. Okay,

947
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: So here's what I say. Number one, I said, Drake

948
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: is done if he continues the lawsuit, because what happens

949
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: is is you're acting like a Karen. Now you gotta understand.

950
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Rap is about being the coolest nigga. Rap is about

951
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: being effortless. Rap is like I woke up great, like

952
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: we wouldn't we wouldn't like Hope if he tried harder.

953
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: Part of what we love about him is he so

954
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: effortlessly great. So Drake comes while.

955
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: He tries so hard, Like that's why he's so great.

956
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: He tried hard. You're right, he stays, he stayed, but

957
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't make it seem like he's trying

958
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: to try, like Michael Jordan. The only time we saw

959
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: him stressed out was the Flu game, But every other

960
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: time he looked like Michael George joke with.

961
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: My friend, there's no way holes ever woken up after

962
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: ten am. Yes, yes, but nah.

963
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: But Bro, when I said he's done, it's like, you

964
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: got to understand from the inside.

965
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: I'm in the inside, right on the inside.

966
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: You suing real people, You sewing people you sat down

967
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: to ate dinner with. These are the same people. That's

968
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: like you suing us, like you sawing us for doing

969
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: what we probably only revealed to you because you was

970
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: half us. You half us, You're not like they don't

971
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: tell black people a lot of shit in the music business.

972
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: Bro, I ain't been at too many tables with white men.

973
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: That just was forthcoming with how for me to win

974
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: black men all the time, but not white men. Drake

975
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: is half Jewish, so he's at these table them Jewish man.

976
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: They're like, bro, here's what we do. So he knows

977
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: the secrets. So when you got mad, when he got

978
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: used against you. To me, that's like, bro, you only

979
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: know what they doing and you sewing because they showed you,

980
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: which is something going against the mob.

981
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: Shit Like dog, you know, how much shit do you know?

982
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: And you know that you will never you probably say

983
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: ninety ten percent of the shit you know in ninety

984
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: percent you'll never say, right, because we understand the world

985
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: that we come from. So when Drake started like this

986
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: and this, and it's like, oh, you have a kid.

987
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: When you have a baby, they hit their head right,

988
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: everybody knows this. Don't react because you rap, they're gonna cry.

989
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: But if you don't and you got like nothing happened,

990
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: they'll be like everything round, everything is fine.

991
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: But if they see you run.

992
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: Into them like, oh you okay, And it's like Drake,

993
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: if you just acted like you were okay, bro, we

994
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: would have thought you were okay. Like, let's be clear,

995
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: him losing the battle wasn't a detriment to his career.

996
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: When rap battles happen, we know someone is gonna lose.

997
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: We know y'all are friends. We know it's nobody gonna

998
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: shoot each other. So it wasn't like a real battle.

999
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, we know it's a battle amongst friends.

1000
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: So when you can't take a joke amongst friends, you

1001
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: make yourself different. It's like when we started off talking

1002
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: about when I'm in class, I don't want to raise

1003
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: my hand because I don't want to interrupt. Like it's

1004
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: like you're interrupting the movie, Bro, Why are you suing?

1005
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: Bro? It's over. We would have forgot about it if

1006
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: you didn't sue.

1007
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, but it's different in the case of if

1008
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: you're Drake and have information on.

1009
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: Exactly what the labels were.

1010
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: Doing behind the scenes on that whole thing true, and

1011
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: funds that were being used that you generated, and this,

1012
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 4: that and the third in business, now you're in negotiations

1013
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: with these labels and you may have asked for a

1014
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: number and they don't want to give you that. So

1015
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: on this side, this new imprint that we signed, we're

1016
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: gonna help this artist do something that may, you know,

1017
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: kind of take a hit on your career and your

1018
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: name and your brand. So we're gonna help support that.

1019
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: Like you can't see what artists will be like, Oh,

1020
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: I see what you are.

1021
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: So so let me tell you Drake's you actually just

1022
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: really helped me, see something that I didn't see, what

1023
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Drake didn't understand, was that you're suing Lucian's office. Lucian

1024
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: is the daddy to all the companies. So one of

1025
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: his sons, this is in the scope, and they son

1026
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: is Kendrick. Another son is Mantia, and his son is Drake.

1027
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: I have to treat both parties the same. So if

1028
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: he's winning, I have to help the same way if

1029
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: he's winning, because if he don't help, then you can

1030
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: have top of him saying they showing faith to their favorite.

1031
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: They don't want to help.

1032
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: So it was so a lot of the times, it's

1033
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: like you have to let the chips fall what they may,

1034
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: and Bro, everybody gets knocked down. And I ain't gonna lie.

1035
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: Bro Like, I'm more of a Drake fan than I

1036
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: am a Kendrick fan. I just know Kendrick is more gifted,

1037
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say. It's like I

1038
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: listen to Drake music way more and I listen to Kendrick.

1039
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: But you know the difference with how Drake is Chick

1040
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: fil A, he's the top, he sells. It's always guaranteed.

1041
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: Kendrick is Mashros. We might not eat there every once

1042
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: a week, right, but when we do eat there, we

1043
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: know we're going for something special compared to Chick fil A.

1044
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: So my thing was, you gave him the advantage, bro,

1045
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm a Drake fan. I'll be wishing I was

1046
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: these niggas friends, so I could tell him, Bro, don't

1047
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: do that. Here's a Lucy ain't gonna do. As soon

1048
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: as you see what they gonna do. This guy is

1049
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: acting like a baby.

1050
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: Look at him.

1051
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna make you look worse. So you so I

1052
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: get it. Don't get me wrong. It's an ass whipping,

1053
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Whatever it was, come back with

1054
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: a record, And if I was you, I would have said,

1055
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: like remember how when Pink did the don't let Me

1056
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: get Me and she went from like R and B

1057
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: to pop rock and she goes LA told me you'll

1058
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: be a pop star. Nigga La hated that line. Well

1059
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: he hated that shit, but it was like she told

1060
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: her truth and they put a fake La Red in

1061
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: the video and that's it. So my thing is is

1062
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: it's all the game, bro, Like you are the biggest,

1063
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: you are the best. If you, if you, it's like

1064
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: a nigga getting punched. You know you walk all on

1065
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: the shit. You might cry in the car, but y'all

1066
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: not gonna see me. All I'm saying this, nigga cry

1067
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 1: in the car. These chicks love you. You can't cry

1068
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: in front of black women. You know that. You can't

1069
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: cry from them. You can't be lame in front of

1070
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: You can't unlame yourself in front of black women.

1071
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: You know that.

1072
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: That's why niggas will shoot the club before they get

1073
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: their ass whip, because you niggas, she ain't gone. You

1074
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: ain't even no ass now if you get your ass whipped.

1075
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: So did you better off killing a nigga going to

1076
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: jail with five? It's coming out at least broads are

1077
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: gonna like you. I'm a d That's my point. So

1078
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: with Drake, it's like you would have been more of

1079
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: a legend if you just let it go. But now

1080
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: we're talking about Iceman and the lawsuit. We should only

1081
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: be talking about the music right now. You brought the

1082
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: lawsuit into this, That's all I'm saying. I'm like, if

1083
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: you keep that going, you think universal? Would y'all do

1084
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: it if y'all was universal? You think universal is going

1085
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: to work? You and give you their best if you

1086
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: have a lawsuit against them.

1087
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 4: No, I think they almost have to. Nah, he demands

1088
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: too much of the space right now. No, No, all

1089
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: of these we got we got some good music out

1090
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: this year. The only album that everybody wants to hear,

1091
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: the only artist that everybody wants to hear from, is

1092
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: the one that is now deemed not cool. Cry baby,

1093
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 4: you know lost the battle. It's suing. That's not by coincidence.

1094
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: That's me by that because he is the biggest and

1095
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: the best, hardest, true.

1096
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: But when but when you're the biggest and the best,

1097
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: you can't play by the rules that the small guy

1098
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: plays by. You have to be the big gets in

1099
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: the best. That's what makes you that. It's like Mike Tyson,

1100
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: he lost the Holy Feel, but he's still my favorite

1101
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: box there because no matter how many times he lost,

1102
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: he got up like a man. He took it on

1103
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: the chin and he kept going. He didn't say they cheated.

1104
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: It's like once you win the ring. When Drake was

1105
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: saying they cheated for him, so I'm gonna sue him.

1106
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Bro lost It's okay.

1107
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 5: I like that point that you're saying, who on earth

1108
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: is playing by the same rules as Drake. Nobody Nobody

1109
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: so granted, Jay and I is probably one of the

1110
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 5: at that time, the biggest battles we've seen in hip

1111
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: hop of what we would call two A list artists

1112
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 5: going at I don't know if hip hop was the

1113
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 5: biggest genre data wise at that point. Now, hip hop

1114
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 5: is that everything evolves and changes, and the way things

1115
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 5: evolve and change, especially with business. When you are a

1116
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 5: hip hop artist, Drake's and Pop start cool whatever, He's

1117
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 5: still hip hop on roll day when you now control

1118
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 5: close to the same market as Taylor Swift when it

1119
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: comes to a label. Back to the perfect storm theory,

1120
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 5: the biggest battle we've ever seen in our entire lives

1121
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: is Kendrick and Drake because the two biggest A list

1122
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 5: artists when hip hop data wise, money wise is at

1123
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: the highest it's ever been. I know it sounds crazy

1124
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 5: to the Internet, but we can never speak like we

1125
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 5: know what Drake is going through and how important it

1126
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 5: would be when you're negotiating a deal at the level

1127
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 5: that he is during the biggest battle where you generate

1128
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 5: that much money to keep the lights on there and

1129
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 5: y'all got the motherfucking nerve to put money bonds in somebody. Yeah, right,

1130
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 5: of course it wasn't quiet because you are correct.

1131
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: What do you what did Drake think they were gonna do?

1132
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 5: Pr wise? But of course they're going to make him

1133
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: look out to be a cry baby. And I'm not

1134
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: mad at anyone that says he's a cribbag, I get it. Yeah,

1135
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 5: but I could never imagine in that situation generating the

1136
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: money that I do, knowing the information that I have

1137
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 5: to be like, Yo, it's all about the all about

1138
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 5: r L y'all, you know, and that's just all like

1139
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 5: you're not what y'all saying, But this is not Hip

1140
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 5: hop is the number one genre, or has dropped a

1141
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 5: little bit, but it's still the biggest big genre on

1142
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 5: earth as far as cultural impact, and Drake has surpassed

1143
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 5: all of that. It's him and Taylor Swift in that building. Bro.

1144
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 5: Of course, I'm fucking suing.

1145
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: What are we talking about? Hundred percent right?

1146
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is is that it's like, no,

1147
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm not suing. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm

1148
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: gonna look at this. You know what Drake would have

1149
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: been better? You know, I wouldn't have sued you know what,

1150
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm stupid. You know, I wouldn't have sue if I

1151
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: was Drake seeming, you know, would have told him, let's

1152
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: ask to leave the label. No but that all right?

1153
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: No, no, hit me out.

1154
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: That's what I suing.

1155
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: What happens then they're afraid of me. It's my fuck

1156
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: about to leave. We gotta make it right.

1157
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: But when you sue like I would have asked to

1158
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: leave you, let me out of here, said y'all, Like said,

1159
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: y'all want to work out of y'all. Y'all forgot that

1160
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: I'm the favorite. Y'all didn't protect my likeliness. Let me

1161
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: out this deal because he's worth Drake is probably worth

1162
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: three or four His catalog is worth for about three

1163
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: billion dollars, like if he sold it on the open market.

1164
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: So why are you taking a half a billion dollar advance?

1165
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: You should have did what the Weekend did when it

1166
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: leverage the god a loan, leverage it against it. But

1167
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: you like the machine too, bro, And that's what I'm saying.

1168
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: You can't get mad when the system works for you,

1169
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: and when you get mad when it doesn't. Like that's

1170
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: my only thing. And like I said, I hate this

1171
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: mall I'm glad I'm talking about this because I'm a

1172
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: real Drake fan. Like nigga. I love this nigga like

1173
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: I remember fighting niggas. Like he's gonna be the biggest

1174
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: artist in the world. That's kind of how I got

1175
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: credibility from niggas because I would be the first nigga

1176
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: when best I ever had came out. He's gonna be the

1177
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: biggest artist in the world. How the fuck you know?

1178
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: I could tell you he's hot, black, he's half Jewish,

1179
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: he's talking directly to women.

1180
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: He has he's no violence in them.

1181
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: He's from Canada, he's clean, clean cut, he's he's gonna

1182
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: be the biggest and you know why the most important thing.

1183
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: He can do any genre because he's from Canada, Like

1184
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: Kendrick can't do one dance.

1185
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: He can't unless he's with a UK artist and he's

1186
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: a feature, but he can't make that his song Drake

1187
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: is the ultimate cheat code of music. You you got

1188
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: tricked out of your spot by by the culture. And

1189
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: to me, that was the part that I felt like

1190
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: the culture really fucked you up. They we're gonna do

1191
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: the battle. Drake had nothing to gain from the Kendrick battle.

1192
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, me nothing like you.

1193
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: The top.

1194
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: The top I could do is lose. Why we do

1195
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: this again?

1196
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: No?

1197
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: But but you can't win for losing that now?

1198
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: But no, he because I'd sit on this couch if

1199
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: Drake duck the like that smoke, I'd be on this

1200
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 5: couch saying yo.

1201
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: But the like that smoke. But the like that smoke

1202
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: came from the first person shooter right then. It was

1203
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: a response to him. I think I think what happened

1204
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: with Drake was this is what I think happened. I'm

1205
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what I think happened from the.

1206
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: First person shooter Drake.

1207
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't have no idea, but they have a long

1208
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: history of I think that what happened with Drake was

1209
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: that none of his peers could beat him. They knew

1210
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: they couldn't, and it was like, and the nigga could

1211
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: do anything he wants. He can do Rick Ross type music,

1212
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: he can do Travis type music, he can do AP

1213
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: he could do a core K pop song if he wants.

1214
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: He could do every because he's from Canada, and I

1215
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: think it's peers got a little frustrated with that. So

1216
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: I think they've been trying to bait him, and you

1217
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: know he probably knocked off everybody girl, right, so you

1218
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: know you really want to get him. And it's like

1219
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: Ross can beat him on on one. It's like we

1220
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: in jail, bro, like who can beat this nigga? Like

1221
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: who's the one? And I think the only person alive

1222
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: that can beat Drake in the battle was the only

1223
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: person he bat There's not another human that could touch

1224
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: him nowhere close. But you went against the one nigga

1225
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have and then you took the bait. So

1226
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: when he's doing the slave shit, he's he's leveraging the half.

1227
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: He's leveraging the halfs you part that was your superpower?

1228
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: Now was the cultures looking at you like you don't

1229
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: know no better? Hold on, he don't know, Bro, You

1230
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: went into Kendrick comes from Compton. My nigga, they burpies.

1231
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: The niggas is Burpi's lifting weights. Since at five in

1232
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: the backyard, they're three hours behind us.

1233
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Bro, Like what time?

1234
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: Whatever time it is right now, it's four thirty, Right now,

1235
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: it's one thirty.

1236
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: There, that's a whole difference.

1237
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: The only thing that's funny about that, I know, man,

1238
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: niggas in a confident that don't do burpe'st nigga doing.

1239
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: A push up some ship and I'm like, don't don't

1240
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: battle him, y'all.

1241
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: Don't battle that guy like his friends want to get you.

1242
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: Like I know to t I know these guys, been

1243
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: around these guys, these guys are guys you don't want

1244
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: to play with. Drake is Canadian? Bro be Canadian? Another

1245
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: thing I would have said. They never have hit me out.

1246
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: He's being Canadian, but hit me out. Let me tell that.

1247
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: Mean, here's what I'm saying.

1248
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: Kendrick has to come to Toronto one time, and that's

1249
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: on tour. Drake, you're in l A one hundred times

1250
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: a year.

1251
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: That's just what I'm saying.

1252
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, like when one of y'all get

1253
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: off the train or get off the plane, you never

1254
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: know if it's a tsa motherfucker that's cool with somebody

1255
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: from top. It's like you just never know. So I'm like,

1256
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: don't have that fight. If Cole comes in, do it?

1257
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: What if Cole lined him up? What if you told

1258
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: we go I just thought about damn, that's what if

1259
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: Cole lined him up?

1260
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 4: In him? I've been saying because.

1261
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: If they if if Cole joins the battle, it doesn't

1262
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: go that bad for Drake because there's three people fighting

1263
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: each other.

1264
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I know the.

1265
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 5: Definition definition of lining someone up, and I don't think

1266
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 5: that was the case. Why do you think that cold

1267
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 5: would have lined him up in that situation? I think

1268
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: cold back.

1269
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: Okay, look at it from the standpoint Drake and j

1270
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: this was for funzies and I'm kind of the same person.

1271
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: Yes, right, is just.

1272
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: Dreads.

1273
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: When you got dreads, they don't look at it that way.

1274
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: True, but he grew to dreads. What you got d

1275
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: d You know that you got.

1276
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: Forget about Drake braiding his son's hair.

1277
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.

1278
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: I love you.

1279
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.

1280
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: To who got it? It was funny, it was.

1281
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: But my thing is, bro, you listen if J Cole

1282
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: does the battle, If I'm Drake's team and I'm sitting

1283
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: with him, and I'm like, Okay, I don't listen, bro

1284
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: Kendrick is dangerous and we gotta go to l A.

1285
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: I'll do it.

1286
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: If Cove's involved, like, let's all hit each other. But

1287
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: if is gonna be you versus him, let's gratefully bow out.

1288
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 5: No, I don't think Drake thinks that way. I think

1289
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 5: Cole thought that way. I think Cole lined them up.

1290
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: As I'm talking to you all about I haven't talked

1291
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: about this because one and that hates me when I

1292
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: say something. When I say Drake, they like, we hate

1293
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: this niggas. I'm like, let me stop talking about it

1294
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: because I'm a fan of his. But I think as

1295
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, I think Cole might have lined

1296
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: Think about it. If J Cole line Drac up, that

1297
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: is the greatest line up in the history of rap music, nigga.

1298
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: Let me think about that. They were all torn together.

1299
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: They probably like, were gonna go ahead him, Let's do

1300
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: it for the hell of it.

1301
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 2: Man. You know what, I'm.

1302
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 5: Straight, I think you're I think you're giving Cold too

1303
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: much credit in that regards. I really think he just

1304
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 5: wrapped on first person shooter. Yo, it's the Big Three,

1305
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 5: Like I just think he was. I think Cole is

1306
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 5: an actual nice I mean that good way nice guy,

1307
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 5: but also competitive rapper and just said some ship.

1308
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: And I think you're not a competitive rapper.

1309
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying at the time when it was time to compete.

1310
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: Can I finish it? Oh no, just take that off of.

1311
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: His name, you think at that time?

1312
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 5: Yes, And I can totally understand Kendrick's point of view.

1313
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 5: If I'm looking like y'all, y'all hugging on stage, y'all

1314
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 5: need to do a tour together, I could see Kendrick

1315
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 5: looking at that like.

1316
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: You know, he was gross.

1317
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: You know he was at the backyard doing fucking push ups.

1318
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: Y'all want to get together.

1319
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: I can I can totally see Kendrick, especially being Kendrick,

1320
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 5: being a very funny. When I say clown, I mean

1321
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 5: a good way, like Kendrick clown on people.

1322
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

1323
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 5: Like looking at that ship like this is gross, y'all

1324
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 5: hugging on stage to talk about the last twenty years

1325
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 5: to get get the fuck out of here, and they're.

1326
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: Doing it like that versus that was hip hop.

1327
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I respect it. I respect all that.

1328
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm wait for him to get I think apologizing explain

1329
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 4: that part.

1330
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 5: I think when it comes to being competitive and here

1331
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 5: for the sport, Drake and Kendrick are alike, but I

1332
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 5: think as human beings, Drake and Cole are like. And

1333
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 5: then when it got agree to that point, Cole is like,

1334
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 5: I'm not you Drake, because Drake doesn't get enough credit

1335
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 5: for going after anyone that says a word about him.

1336
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: I give him. That's true, which a lot of rappers

1337
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: have included.

1338
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 5: You just give a little subliminal here, Drake will rap

1339
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 5: at you right away, no matter who you are.

1340
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: But that's what that's what Ray is saying. I don't,

1341
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't.

1342
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 5: I don't stand Drake are similar humans where Kendrick doesn't

1343
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 5: need to be part of.

1344
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: But my thing is.

1345
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: The game is the game, and when you in the

1346
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: game and you're richest Drake, that mean you've taken a

1347
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: lot of losses, but you're taking way more wins to

1348
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: be as rich as successful as Drake. My whole thing is,

1349
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: that's a loss we don't have. If that's a loss,

1350
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: that we focus on. The battle was a two years ago.

1351
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: We still talk about it because of the lawsuit. If

1352
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: the lawsuit went away, he would drop music. It'd have

1353
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: been over him at Kendrick would a hug those stage

1354
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: in Toronto.

1355
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: It had been over And.

1356
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think it's because of the lawsuit.

1357
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that I think that that was

1358
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: such a big moment that we're gonna be talking about

1359
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 4: that forever. You can't be two years removed from the

1360
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 4: biggest moment.

1361
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: And rap history and not talk about it unless you're

1362
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: the biggest artist in history of rap.

1363
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: Now do you feel like music wise, because you know,

1364
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 4: we've gotten some music this year, some good albums, some

1365
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 4: good music, but this is clearly a gap is clearly

1366
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: and we say there's no who other superstars?

1367
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1368
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: Right, So do you feel like there is clearly a

1369
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: wide gap missing witness, no Drake album music to really play?

1370
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: So we need him?

1371
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't feel like that.

1372
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: No, if they don't feel like that, they're not paying

1373
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: attention to the economy. Like Drake made artists that we

1374
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: might not have taken.

1375
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: A serious feel more serious.

1376
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: Like when Drake does a record with black Boy JB,

1377
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: like you look at him differently, like Drake co signed them,

1378
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Like he got a hit, but Drake co signed them.

1379
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: So it's like, you need him because a Drake co

1380
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: sign is worth three years of a career, And if

1381
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Drake just co signed you, that's three years of getting

1382
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: money right because of that, So I think we need him.

1383
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I just I just wish he didn't take it so personal.

1384
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: Like if I was you, I would have I would

1385
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: have took it personally, but I would have never let

1386
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: them know I would have.

1387
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: I would have took Lucy in job. Let me tell

1388
00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: you something.

1389
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson was having problems with Tommy Mottola, and he

1390
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: was like, they not gonna oh y'all, not gonna oh y'all, y'all.

1391
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: They're not gonna treat me like I'm Michael Jackson. He

1392
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: flew to Japan, met with the Japanese family that owns

1393
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: Sony and got Tommy Mottola fired. That way from this

1394
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: dinner table. This motherfucker race, this motherfucker racist, he gotta go.

1395
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: They fired him. So imagine if you was Drake and

1396
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: you flew them. You don't think the owners of Universal

1397
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: the indeed, his daughter probably is obsessed with Drake, would

1398
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: love to sit probably get my hand job under the table.

1399
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Why he's talking to the dad and then say, yo, bro,

1400
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't like what they did. He would have got

1401
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: way more from it. But my thing was, you're acting

1402
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: like a spoil your child. When you are spoiled child,

1403
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: don't act spoil when you.

1404
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: Are spoiled, but by spoil the white.

1405
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: Because you've always won.

1406
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: The reason why he's acting like this is because this

1407
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: is his first time he took a real, genuine laws, so.

1408
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: He's always won because he was better than there.

1409
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: That's my point. I agree with you, But the one

1410
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: time you don't spoil like they gave it to none.

1411
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: But the one time, no, you're right.

1412
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: I think Drake is incredible, like the one he was

1413
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: in my top three until a lawsuit like that took

1414
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: him out.

1415
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah to me because like bro like y'all.

1416
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: Don't know a lot about me, but like the music industry,

1417
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: like they did me dirty in twenty twenty. They basically

1418
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: set me to die and I could have sued and

1419
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: probably got crazy money, but I know they would have

1420
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: never respected me because they able to have thought you

1421
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: need to sue a win. Nigga, I'm gonna get put

1422
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: a camera on me. That's a hip hop I'm gonna

1423
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: come back the rest of the world suit. But you

1424
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: like what you told me, right, But if we're in

1425
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: hip hop, you have to play by the rules or don't.

1426
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: And right now Drake is not playing about.

1427
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 5: The rules of hip hop because he's suing and I'm

1428
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 5: not comparing this to the Drake thing, but you're not

1429
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 5: gonna play about rules. All the hip hop artists that

1430
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 5: we love and respect have sued people before. I'm not

1431
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 5: saying it a rap battle. I want to make that clear.

1432
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 5: But let's not act like jay Z's not sued somebody before.

1433
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 5: Fifty Cents not sued somebody before like that.

1434
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: But I think when jay Z sued somebody, everybody feels

1435
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: like it's valid. I think this is the first time

1436
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: when no one feels his lawsuit is valid except for

1437
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: Drake's stands and his friends and him. If I think

1438
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: that the lawsuit is dumb, it's not gonna work.

1439
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: It goes go away profession wise.

1440
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: And my thing is is there, Drake is more powerful

1441
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: than Lucian Grange. Let me make this know. If I,

1442
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: by the way, Drake don't notice, he needs to notice.

1443
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: He is way more powerful.

1444
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: To Lucian Grange.

1445
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: Ever will be because Lucien only controls a back office.

1446
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: I think he knows that, which is why he shoot.

1447
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have sued.

1448
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: I would have. I would have sat up on the

1449
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: table so I would what you're saying.

1450
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 5: But I's percentage of Universal's income per year.

1451
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 4: But back to the superstar thing, I think it's one

1452
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 4: for stars breed stars for sure, but do we I

1453
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 4: think it's clear now. And I laugh because you know

1454
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: a lot of my homies my chat, you know, they

1455
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 4: text me to yo yo, mall tell Drake, we sorry,

1456
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 4: we need him Brody twenty four, we all lied, like

1457
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 4: you know, it's like it's a lot of that. And

1458
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 4: I'm just laughing because they're saying, like we're getting good

1459
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 4: music and artists are dropping and you know, we're getting

1460
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: some good projects. But to what they're saying, it's it's clear.

1461
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 4: It's like, bro we need that.

1462
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 3: We need night from him.

1463
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: We don't need music. We need to excitement. Drake.

1464
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: He brings excitement like none of these like you got

1465
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: to remember, like yeah, is a great performer because Yay,

1466
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: watch Hove whole watch came. These other people ain't watching

1467
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: nobody like they're not watching. These young boys ain't watching

1468
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: Travis saying I want to be great like Travis. They

1469
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: just getting their money and saying I made three million

1470
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: dollars last year. You can't tell me I ain't a boss. Okay,

1471
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: you know you need to make three million dollars. The

1472
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: rest of your life every year for you to maintain

1473
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: the lifestyle you have right now, that three million will

1474
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: burn out real quick in six months if you ain't

1475
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: got three more coming in. So keep working, keep going.

1476
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: But I don't really think that's the full problem. Like, yeah,

1477
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: Drake is needed here, but Drake is also a legacy

1478
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: act now and was getting probably the longest run, the

1479
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: most dominant run we've ever seen in music. The issue

1480
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: is there's no one else to me like Drake, no matter.

1481
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: Let's take the battle out of everything, no matter what.

1482
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: Drake was eventually going to get to legacy era and

1483
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: he's about to be forty soon, like we're gonna get

1484
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: it's still no country for old men to some regards

1485
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: with new music. You take the battle out and Drake

1486
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: is still the biggest artist and no one has a

1487
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: weird perception of him. It's still like Dawg, like Drake

1488
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: can't keep the shit moving for the rest of our

1489
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: fucking life like it, no matter what people would have been, like,

1490
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want the Drake coson on

1491
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: someone that's twenty one and Drake.

1492
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: Is formed that as talented, is he gonna be honest

1493
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: with you?

1494
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: That's another thing they did when they called his age

1495
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: out because you gotta remember drakedn age, Like, Drake was

1496
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: still like twenty five to me, right, and then they was.

1497
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: Like, he's thirty eight, thirty seven, Why has he messed

1498
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: with a twenty one year old?

1499
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: Then it becomes like, yo, he gave them to Ammo

1500
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: too much Ammo Like it was like he didn't have

1501
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: to play by the rules, so he didn't.

1502
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: And then once they started.

1503
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: Focusing on him and they realized how many rules he

1504
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: was allowed to break.

1505
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what made aus peers come after him.

1506
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: It's jealousy.

1507
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: I ain't saying is wrong, but if Drake would have

1508
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: went against any other rapper in the world, we would

1509
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: not be sitting here. He only went against Kendrick and

1510
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: that was the only person you shouldn't have went again.

1511
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, I would tell you I want

1512
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: to tell some funny. Let me tell you some funny.

1513
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: I want to tell you the story about five years ago,

1514
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio with a super producer.

1515
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you off camera who it is, but I'm

1516
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: not gonna say now.

1517
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: In a in a big songwriter, the producer was huge

1518
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: and they was arguing Drake versus Tupac, and the producer

1519
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: is from the old school, so he's arguing Pac and

1520
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: the songwriters from the new school. He's like Drake, Drake

1521
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: Trek and he starts screaming, you know, George Drake. So

1522
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: the guy got up and punched him in his mouth. Wait,

1523
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: it's a true story, no, ma, this is a true story.

1524
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: This in the studio. No no issue, No no, this is

1525
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: no This is a true story. By the way, this

1526
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: is five six years ago. And I'm gonnaell when I

1527
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: tell you who it is, I'm gonna laugh. But he

1528
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: punches him in his mouth.

1529
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 4: And producer punches the songwriter in his mouth, and the

1530
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 4: songwriter falls.

1531
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: To the ground, like what are you doing? Bro? What

1532
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: are you doing?

1533
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: Bro?

1534
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: And the producer stands over him and says, that's the

1535
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: difference between my generation your generation.

1536
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: Nigga.

1537
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: Keep that in mind, because that's really like, I came

1538
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: from a world where a nigga will punch you in

1539
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: your mouth. Yeah, you say something crazy, you might get

1540
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: pussing your mouth. And he got pushing his mouth. And

1541
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: as soon as he's like, what are you doing? Can

1542
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: I ask you what? The sentence was that got him punched. No,

1543
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't yo.

1544
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't even that.

1545
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: He just was He was just yelling like yo, And

1546
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: the producers are yeller too when I tell you and

1547
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, I know how he is.

1548
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: He yells too.

1549
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: So the other guy started yelling nigga, oh yo. He

1550
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: said what Yeah. He just pushed me in his mouth

1551
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: right front of everybody, and the nigga just fell to

1552
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: the floor and he was standing over him, and I

1553
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: swear to god, he was like, that's the difference between

1554
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: my generation your generation, little nigga. The little nigga got up,

1555
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: got up, was like he hear me no move. He

1556
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: hear me no move, and just walked out and said

1557
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: he'll never work with me again. That nigga ain't made

1558
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: no hit sense that songwriter, but the producer is fucking

1559
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: filthy rich.

1560
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 5: I gotta tell that story because it was like, there's

1561
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 5: a metaphor somewhere in this entire The whole point is that.

1562
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: The whole point is that you're gonna get punched in

1563
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: your mouth at some point for sure, and what you

1564
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: and what you do back is gonna tell us what

1565
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: generation you're from. Are you gonna get up and fight

1566
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: like a man? Are you gonna walk away? Are you

1567
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna sue? That tells us everything.

1568
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: Oh you sue? Oh you my son of age. Oh

1569
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: you fight?

1570
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: You must be about to fight, okay you it's just

1571
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: the generations.

1572
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 4: But I get what you're saying. But I just think

1573
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: that also sued. Yeah, it's a difference. I just think

1574
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 4: that again because we hold Drake to this. You gotta

1575
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 4: be hip hop all the way through, right, because you're

1576
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 4: saying that if you can't sue, because that's not hip hop,

1577
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 4: that's not our culture. That's not But it's like we

1578
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: give everybody else a pass. They could do shit that's

1579
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 4: not hip hop, and it's like, nah, it's so good.

1580
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 4: You know what, Drake, what Jake Cole did is not

1581
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 4: hip hop. You're right, in my opinion, I agree, but

1582
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: nobody wants to call that out. Well what he did

1583
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 4: is oh no, he wants to protect his family, and

1584
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 4: you know he was. He saw that it was about

1585
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 4: to get ugly and nasty. I saw niggas die over.

1586
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

1587
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: What was the number one sneaker from the nineties, Jordan's

1588
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: Barkley has sneakers? Barry Bonds, has Sneakers, Dan Santas has Niagas.

1589
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: But why was Jordan number one? Because he was winning?

1590
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: And that's my thing, Like like in my mind, if

1591
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: Drake is the only person the last twenty years have

1592
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: belonged to Drake for sure, like dog like dog one year,

1593
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: you take a who cares?

1594
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: But it wasn't It wasn't again, I think everybody you know,

1595
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: it wasn't the music. I think it was more so

1596
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 4: what he knows that the labels, that's we're doing. And

1597
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: like you said, he's more powerful than Lucian, so he's challenging.

1598
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: He only knows because they told things of all and

1599
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm all to the biggest only because they told him,

1600
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: And they only told him because he's on their side too.

1601
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: Once he used you know, how to tell people.

1602
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: Remember the whole Ryan Kugler deal thing, and everybody's making

1603
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: a big deal of his deal. You know what pissed

1604
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: me off about it? Ryan Coogler is not the first

1605
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: person to get that deal. He's the first black person.

1606
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,959
Speaker 1: Spielberg been having that deal. It just never when black

1607
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: people get it, it becomes a big fucking deal, Like,

1608
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: oh oh, it's a turning point.

1609
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: We get it. So that's what I'm saying.

1610
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: It's like he just he just shouldn't have went into it,

1611
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: and if he did, he should have took what came

1612
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: with it, kept them moving. He sit up with Kendrick

1613
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: and then kept it going like, oh hell yeah, let

1614
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: us make it do.

1615
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 5: Y'all think it's wild that Tommy Mottola was racist and gay.

1616
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: He was gay. I thought he was married to Mariah.

1617
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: He's gay.

1618
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: Sexual if you knew told the story how he became

1619
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: in power, he was. He's a He's a smart motherfucker

1620
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: because he only managed Hall.

1621
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 3: Of Notes, that's all he had, and then Mariah.

1622
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: He signed her and then he married her.

1623
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Tommy Mottola is not gay.

1624
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: According Yeah, he's a heterosexual. He is a heterosexual male

1625
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 4: music executive.

1626
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: That's what he wants you to know.

1627
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 5: We we we're talking of Mike and you had the

1628
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 5: statement that rap is a joke. I know you didn't

1629
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 5: mean rap is a j but I did want you

1630
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 5: to expound a little bit on on that.

1631
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: Outside of anything we told with Drake and Kendrick.

1632
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I stress that rappers should treat rap like wwe WWE

1633
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: proves that men just want to be entertained, like all

1634
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: those guys are friends behind closed doors, but we don't care.

1635
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: We love the characters, and I just think that if

1636
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 1: you play more into that. So like say, for example,

1637
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: if all this was happening and we knew Kendrick and

1638
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 1: Drake was somewhere laughing at us, we would see it differently, right,

1639
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: That's what I mean by wwe meaning like say, if

1640
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: y'all got something going on, and I'm like, who else

1641
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: got something going on? And then you find like, let's

1642
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: just do something against each other. I don't care, like,

1643
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden we're in the headlines

1644
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: and it's like we're making each other bigger than ever.

1645
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: For the moment to take drip records of sales. We

1646
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: all won.

1647
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: We ain't really beef from behind closed doors. It's over

1648
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: like who cares well? I mean that's happening on the

1649
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: Execs Stole we talked about Lucian. I mean his sons

1650
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: are on the three.

1651
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 5: Lucian has done monopoly. He has all a park place everywhere.

1652
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 5: When you're putting your son in your rival as the

1653
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 5: head of that. But here's the things. Are you signing

1654
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 5: six y nine and he's beefing with somebody on your

1655
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 5: son's label.

1656
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: Like, here's what people don't know. Everyone's laughing about it,

1657
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: but here's what people don't know about his son. His son.

1658
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 2: Lucien didn't want his son to go to Warner. He

1659
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: didn't want that.

1660
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: He just couldn't get the deal approved by the board

1661
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: because it was his son with his son wanted the

1662
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: boy was like, we're not giving that to your son. No,

1663
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: he's not getting that. So Warner gave it to him.

1664
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: That's why he couldn't get it. He didn't place his

1665
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: son there.

1666
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: He didn't.

1667
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: But I think that that also is like, look at

1668
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: Lucy and Lucian is probably about the exit warning I

1669
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: mean universal right now. He might be like that's what

1670
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like he knows it. My thing is, Drake,

1671
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: if you mad at him, just don't say nothing. Get

1672
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: him on, not back here and fuck his wife or

1673
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: something like I'm dead that got him in the twenty

1674
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: v Hey, I would listen. My point is this, I'm

1675
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna get your ass back somehow, Nigga. I might not

1676
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: get you back, I can't beat you over there, but

1677
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you back somehow. Drake could get his wife,

1678
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: fuck his daughter, dog's daughter who cares like something to

1679
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: hurt him, but not sue him.

1680
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

1681
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 5: But then y'all call it Drake Corney when he posted

1682
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 5: Lucian's daughter or whoever the fuck it was.

1683
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: When it's it don't matter what Drake anything Drake do.

1684
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: Right now, they're gonna say corny because of lawsuit. And

1685
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: that's what I mean by like, I hate that he

1686
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: did that cause it's like that follows them. Yeah, it's like, bro,

1687
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: you he too greatful that to follow him, But it's

1688
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: no choice because.

1689
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 2: Of how the culture is.

1690
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: It's like you could go nine hundred and ninety nine

1691
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: days being the best man on earth, good that one

1692
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: thousand day you have a day off, they turn on you. Yeah,

1693
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: that's fucked up. I feel if I'm Drake, I wouldn't

1694
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: even drop music lettle Hey, well, y'all nigga listen.

1695
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 4: That was That was another thing I was gonna get into,

1696
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 4: like do we feel like like should Drake even drop

1697
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 4: music anymore?

1698
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: Listen?

1699
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: Man? I told Joe just let us suffer, like, just

1700
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: let us keep it to Joe. And I'm gonna tell

1701
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: you all this. I can't. If I own the seven

1702
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: sixty seven plane, nobody could get me to respond. I

1703
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: will fly my plane over by your fucking house, call

1704
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: you and tell you look outside. I'm gonna pay the

1705
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: FCC fine, nigga, I don't give a fuck how much

1706
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: it costs. I want to just ride by and show

1707
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: you I could do what I want. Like, I can't

1708
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: be for nobody, I will not be for nobody ever

1709
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: in history. I feel like unless I'm be for another thing,

1710
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: I own a private jet like mine.

1711
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: But if that's it, nobody's on his level.

1712
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: But that's why.

1713
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 4: But that's why I respect it, because you see how

1714
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 4: you say that yeah.

1715
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: But because he he's hip, he cares about the coach.

1716
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 4: He carries that to a different level, Like how you

1717
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 4: say something to me, I'm coming at you like yeah

1718
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: to me. I think that's more commendable because he doesn't

1719
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 4: have to respond. He's at a level. But if he didn't,

1720
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 4: as a culture, we would have all said he I

1721
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 4: would sing it on camera.

1722
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna saying this on camera.

1723
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: Talking to you has made me feel more empathy for

1724
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: Drake than I ever felt that because you're right, It's like,

1725
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I mean. I hate when people

1726
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: take my words out of like he's done it, he's done.

1727
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: If he doesn't drop like by the way, anybody has

1728
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: done that, they don't drop like like like you don't

1729
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: think Rihanna is a little scared, just a little, like

1730
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: what if they don't like this ship? Like I know

1731
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: they anticipating it, but once I put it out, there's

1732
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: no more anticipation, So you don't think part of us.

1733
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: Like when she was in every year album cycle, I

1734
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: was on every album. I love that cycle. Rihanna ain't

1735
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: dropped the album in ten years. Like of course when

1736
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: she comes she nervous. I won't play them games. I'm

1737
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: scared to death. Everybody could listen to my music.

1738
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 5: And as much as I pushed back on the mall

1739
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 5: with this entire Drake and Kendrick thing, which we can

1740
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 5: add that part you talked about superducers, which I'll tell

1741
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 5: you off Mike, Yeah, superducer that that is very much

1742
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 5: tied to that side. I saw on personally pulled me aside.

1743
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 5: He whispered my ears and said, oh it's right, m.

1744
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: Mmm, but see this, But because I've had the phone calls,

1745
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 4: but I know it's a lot of shit.

1746
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'm not even bringing up until.

1747
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 5: The internet, I won't believe anything I'm saying, though, Ya,

1748
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 5: your favorite producer over there was like, you're all right,

1749
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 5: you know what it is.

1750
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: You know what it is.

1751
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: The Battle They not like us, not like us as

1752
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: really the song that kind of pushed it because it

1753
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: was the first hit in the Battle.

1754
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 2: Everything else we was just listening to wait for what

1755
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: was next. Not like us.

1756
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: Was the first record that they left, and like nine

1757
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: months later we were still bumping it. So it's like

1758
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: we forgot it's a Drake this It's just a bop

1759
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: in our head. It's like Meek Mill dreams of all

1760
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: night Man. It's like, play that ship. We want to

1761
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: jump to it. But well, that's it represents something. That's

1762
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: where Drake mismanaged the entire thing. Another amazing MC said,

1763
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: they're they're both em c's. Drake ran into a writer,

1764
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: not an MC.

1765
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: A writing.

1766
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 5: He wrote the script of what was going to happen.

1767
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 5: Whereas Drake thought he was about dealing with Kendrick. He thought,

1768
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 5: because Drake is from hip hop, don't get it twisted,

1769
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 5: Drake is a fucking EMC was rapping on Dilla beats.

1770
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 5: When he came out, Drake thought, because I'm going against Kendrick,

1771
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 5: I'm about to do my rap shit, I'm about to

1772
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 5: have every on Tandra, I'm gonna do everything. And Kendrick

1773
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 5: knew that was coming and said, oh no, I'm gonna

1774
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 5: go in your world and.

1775
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: Make it hit.

1776
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 5: I'm about to do this, you know, to be felt

1777
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 5: like you know, you know, but that was the okie dope.

1778
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 5: That's why Kendrick was brilliant in his strategy. That's what

1779
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 5: I'm saying it Like, Yo, the lyrics on not Like Us,

1780
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 5: it's like the worst lyrics I mean, outside the third verse,

1781
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 5: but they're all bro just because he knew Drake was

1782
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 5: gonna be like, Yo, let me go try to outwrap

1783
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 5: Kendrick because I think Drake is just a formal MC

1784
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 5: as Kendrick is. But like, nah, if I'm Kendrick and

1785
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 5: I'm a clown and I mean that in a good way,

1786
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 5: and I'm a writer, and I know that Drake's gonna

1787
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 5: try to rap with me, Na, let me just go do,

1788
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 5: let me go do not like Us.

1789
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: And I tell you what it felt like, you know

1790
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: what I felt like? It felt like he got lined

1791
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: up in the hood right like slap boxing. You know,

1792
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: slap boxing, like slop box. You're getting the red right,

1793
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 1: and then he slapped and then all of a sudden,

1794
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 1: he punches you. They're like, what the fuck now, They're like,

1795
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: keep going. You're like, hold on, man, we supped to

1796
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: me slap boxing.

1797
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: This nigga just pissed me.

1798
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: Keep going. Now, you gotta fight.

1799
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 4: I said all the time that no matter what I

1800
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 4: think the coach was gonna say, Drake, they lined him

1801
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: up if he would have to. Rory said, made a

1802
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 4: hit or made us dance. Yo, this was trying to

1803
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 4: make you dance to make a hit.

1804
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: Can't win for losing, and Drake soul.

1805
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: No matter like.

1806
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 4: So to end it, like you said, at the top,

1807
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 4: when you're at the top, all.

1808
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: You can do is lose. That's why I want he

1809
01:14:59,360 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: did it.

1810
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 4: You know, I understand it, but I respect it because

1811
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 4: he kept it hip hop. He stayed in the battle

1812
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 4: no matter what. He didn't apologize, He didn't back down

1813
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 4: from nobody.

1814
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you take an l when you was in

1815
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 2: the ring, I respect.

1816
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: Okay, one question I'm asking you that you might know

1817
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:14,919
Speaker 1: the answer to case I'm just curious.

1818
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 3: Does he planning as a classic?

1819
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 2: Okay, no, I hope it is.

1820
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: But my question is does he plan on dropping Iceman

1821
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: while the lawsuit is still pending or do you think

1822
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna wait for the lawsuit to end and then

1823
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: drop Iceman Because it's hard to drop Iceman and get

1824
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: it to work with the same people you're suing. That's

1825
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: what I'm asking Still.

1826
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 4: Drake though, Yeah, it's still Drake. I think no matter what,

1827
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 4: it's gonna work, the registers will ring. It's gonna be

1828
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 4: number one he's gonna have.

1829
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: You don't think they'll play dirty games and to compress

1830
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: him to maybe shadow ban him to make it a

1831
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: way if he does two hundred instead of five hundred.

1832
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 4: But this album was so anticipated, it's gonna break through.

1833
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 4: They're gonna try. They're gonna try.

1834
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 5: But even like Nokia, you saw the dirty games with that,

1835
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 5: and I hate that. I'm like on the Drake defending

1836
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 5: side of this, but I'm just in a rejective human being.

1837
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 5: No Kia was a huge hit. That would have been

1838
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 5: crazier if they weren't playing dirty games to block that

1839
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 5: record like No.

1840
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: Kia would have What did I miss. That s what

1841
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: I miss was hard. Niggas was like, that's not it.

1842
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, but see, here's the one thing that happened.

1843
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: When he lost the battle, you gave us reason to

1844
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: question you. We never questioned you. Like when what I like,

1845
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: when I was questioning left foot step, that ship wouldn't

1846
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: work today.

1847
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: Half of his records will work won't work today. Like

1848
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 2: that's my point. It was we didn't.

1849
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: It was Drake, so we all accepted it. Now we're like,

1850
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: how you feel about this?

1851
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 5: No, there was just the time that left foot step,

1852
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 5: all that TikTok shit he was doing during the pandemic.

1853
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 5: I didn't care because I already know he has one

1854
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 5: of the greatest catalogs of all time. If you want

1855
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 5: to do left footstep with a fucking shikesty on your

1856
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 5: crib during pandemic, I don't hold that against I really

1857
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 5: I thought it was stupid, Like but like, I don't

1858
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 5: really care, But what did I miss?

1859
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 2: I thought that was hard?

1860
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 5: I know, but at that point to you're to what

1861
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 5: you're saying, it felt like a clean slate. To some degree,

1862
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 5: we're looking at a new Drake. You got to come

1863
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 5: with something crazy and no Kia was fire. I just

1864
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 5: think the labels did their their spear campaign during it

1865
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 5: in the same regard. But I do want to get

1866
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 5: off this to your point that you've said a bunch

1867
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 5: of times that we've also said. I think that battle

1868
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 5: ruined hip hop. It ruined everything. So I don't even

1869
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 5: want to talk about anymore.

1870
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: It hurts me to talk about it now because he

1871
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: might not ever get hip hop again the way we

1872
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: had it.

1873
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 5: I said after like that we could pull up the episode.

1874
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 5: I said, let's all enjoy this now because this is

1875
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 5: the last time we're going to see him.

1876
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 2: I agree.

1877
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: I think this was before the bat.

1878
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 5: I said, like that, this is the last time we're

1879
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 5: ever going to see him pop again, because you know

1880
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 5: what it is, no.

1881
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 1: Superstars has done after this. Yeah, it's hip hop. Was

1882
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: always the cool guy. So it's like, remember rock was

1883
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: running in the eighties and the nineties and actual roles

1884
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: and Welcome to the Drugs. It was like so different,

1885
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, they was lame. They

1886
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: costumes looked lame, everything, but it was like played out

1887
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what rap is right now.

1888
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 2: We just don't realize it yet.

1889
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: Because our kids still look like the rappers, but our

1890
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: kids are all famous now, like everybody's famous now, So

1891
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 1: I just think it's a I'm.

1892
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 2: Afraid for hip hop. I feel like.

1893
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: Until I see a label that has like a top

1894
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: dog type CEO, we're dead.

1895
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 5: I think it's going to go through the same cycle

1896
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 5: as as every genre really has and just go to

1897
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 5: legacy and there'll still be some young acts there. But

1898
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 5: we're now seeing because hip hop is so young, we're

1899
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 5: seeing the Nass and the jay Z's age in.

1900
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: A cool way.

1901
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, like if I mean, obviously Nas is an investor

1902
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 5: in ring camera.

1903
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't even go intour, but.

1904
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 5: We're if we needed him to be what Bruce Springsteen

1905
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 5: is as far as that, like my dad go to

1906
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 5: MetLife loving.

1907
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: Bruce is the cool, like the boss he could be.

1908
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 5: He could wear a fucking button up shirt, but just

1909
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 5: sit there with a guitar and he'll be cool.

1910
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: If Nas needed to do that.

1911
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 5: I think hip hop is starting to age that way

1912
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 5: where I think KRS and Kane didn't get that that

1913
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 5: opportunity because they were knocking the door down at the time.

1914
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 5: I think if Elvis Uh lived, I don't think he

1915
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 5: would have been this cool.

1916
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: Legacy act that y'all think he would have fuscated it

1917
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: because because you get a chance to get out of shape,

1918
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: the hairs get gray, stomach could go out, and it

1919
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: becomes like you don't.

1920
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 5: Look but now, but now you'll get grateful dead leads

1921
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 5: that like people that can now tour in rock as

1922
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 5: legacy acts.

1923
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: I should even kiss, will take the makeup off, go

1924
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: do the thing.

1925
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 5: Now we're seeing rap do that because it's such a

1926
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 5: young genre. So I don't think it's over in that regard.

1927
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 5: Legacy is just starting. His hoop is doing roots picnic

1928
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 5: and that's gonna be old music.

1929
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

1930
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you what I think, because you're right.

1931
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying hip hop is over. I'm saying hip

1932
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: hop the genre of music is done. I think hip

1933
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: hop has. So you gotta remember, first of all, like

1934
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 1: my kids are in the culture. Like probably if you

1935
01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: had kids, he's in the culture right like you have.

1936
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: So my kids when Drake and Kendrick was dropping, my

1937
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: son is the one that called me when family matters dropped, Yo, Dad,

1938
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna listen Like my son is sixteen at

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 2: It's like we in the culture together.

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Speaker 1: Now, when I was a kid, my mother was listening

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Speaker 1: to Anita Baker and Luther Vandraws, and I was listening

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Speaker 1: to rock Camp. Now me and my kids are listening

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Speaker 1: to the same thing. So I think hip hop has

1945
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to spread, but we're so used to we

1946
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Speaker 1: trying to go through the roof and it's like, no,

1947
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Speaker 1: there's no more roof, the ceiling is up there. All

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Speaker 1: we can do is just populate the floor were on

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 5: It's old, I believe, going through the same cycle of

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Speaker 5: every genre, and unfortunately hip hop is hitting the worst

1952
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Speaker 5: time in history where music is meeting commerce. So in

1953
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Speaker 5: twenty years, Kendrick's going to do the thirty year anniversary

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Speaker 5: Damn tour and everyone to be there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But as far as the young version of keeping the

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Speaker 5: genre going, I don't know where that's going because everything's

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Speaker 5: content based. And now you're running into Lee or Cohen,

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01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 5: who's the head of YouTube music, saying we're not focused

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Speaker 5: on the songs. Yeah, so it's it's fucked not because

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Speaker 5: of a hip hop reason, it's fucked because of of

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Speaker 5: the But but you know what I say.

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: The playing field that we're in.

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Speaker 5: But hip hop will live for hip hop is is

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Speaker 5: going to drive towards some point like hip hop has

1966
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Speaker 5: always been the driver.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anything that pop music made popular, right,

1968
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Speaker 1: like a sneaker, like when Will Smith goes men in

1969
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Speaker 1: Black and all of a sudden, we sell three million

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Speaker 1: rate band glasses in the following few months, like hip

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Speaker 1: hop is the only Like let's be clear, like let's

1972
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Speaker 1: just say it, like the black man is the coolest

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Speaker 1: man on earth, right, any table at a black man too? No, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, But I say any table that a black

1975
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Speaker 1: man is at that table, there's there's eight other races there.

1976
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Speaker 2: They all look cooler because a black man is there.

1977
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Speaker 1: So like that's kind of like our currency. So I

1978
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: don't want to just ran on, but like black men

1979
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: are to me, hip hop is our extract. And I

1980
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, man, he just got to come on board, bro,

1981
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: Like like I love I love Drake. I just I

1982
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Speaker 1: just wish that he understood that it's not personal. From

1983
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Speaker 1: from Canada, so you don't know how we do in

1984
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Speaker 1: the States. In the States, we joned each other like

1985
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna snap on you from the beginning to the end.

1986
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Speaker 1: Like my best friend. The first thing he said to

1987
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Speaker 1: me was a big head motherfucker, where you think you going?

1988
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Speaker 1: And he joned me the whole walk home from the

1989
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Speaker 1: school bus. And I just don't think Drake understands that.

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Speaker 1: In America, we're gonna laugh at you from time to time.

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Speaker 4: I know, I think he understands that. But ain't nobody

1992
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Speaker 4: joking with pedophile though that's true. We've never joked with that.

1993
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Speaker 4: You can't tell me one time growing up somebody that

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Speaker 4: is so chester to the Molesta, that's so true.

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Speaker 3: When you ever heard that.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: You don't play with that.

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Speaker 1: That's not something we play with ill he plays with

1999
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Speaker 1: that though. The nigga that want you to get in

2000
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Speaker 1: the ring and fight him, that's why he did it.

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Speaker 3: Listen, That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's what's back.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Dude that's been in the back lifting weights, doing burbies,

2005
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Speaker 1: that can't wait to fight somebody.

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Speaker 3: I understand.

2007
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the problem. He just we can wake

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Speaker 1: He needed that money, No, but that was the problem

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Speaker 1: with the entire thing. He knew he said it.

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Speaker 5: Rudy, I know you got a thousand records sitting in

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2013
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Speaker 3: I'm a rapper, I'm apper, just leading issues.

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Speaker 5: Ray, you have posted a rapper that we love supported

2053
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 5: for a long time herel Russell. You posted him a lot,

2054
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 5: You've talked about him a lot. How have you felt

2055
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 5: outside of Hill signing with Rock? And then the Lil

2056
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 5: Wayne comes you're heaving, said, I just want to make

2057
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 5: that clear.

2058
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Speaker 1: You are.

2059
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Speaker 5: I just want to I just want to make that

2060
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 5: just so you feel comfortable with the couch. Everyone here

2061
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 5: is heaven, said, I just want to make that, make

2062
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 5: that very clear.

2063
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: How have you.

2064
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 5: As someone that has coached a lot of people's careers. Yes,

2065
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 5: And we love Larrussell so much. That's why I like

2066
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 5: love him. I hate that he's going through some shit

2067
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 5: even though he's a human being and be fucking up

2068
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 5: the same way I do.

2069
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Speaker 2: With the attention he.

2070
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Has on him.

2071
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: Now, has he been handling things?

2072
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 2: Okay? You know what I think he has.

2073
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 5: I just want someone to put him like in a

2074
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 5: just give him a nuggie and be like, yo, you

2075
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 5: are you shut the fuck up?

2076
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

2077
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: So let me tell you that the greatest thing an

2078
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: artist can do is draw a line. And it's saying

2079
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: and say I'm over here. That's the greatest thing the

2080
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,879
Speaker 1: artists can do. Like that means you know your your audience,

2081
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: you know who you're making it for, you know everything.

2082
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: So to me, l Russell, to me is he's finally

2083
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: drawn his line. He had it, like he's like so

2084
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: like he's saying things like, I'm not gonna lie that

2085
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: Hitler is Heaven said. I understood where he was coming from,

2086
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: but he has to understand that that's like a white

2087
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: man saying every KKK man is Heaven said, and we

2088
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: would be offended by that. So I get what you're

2089
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: trying to do, but just because you're trying to do

2090
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: good doesn't mean that you don't hurt people. So to me,

2091
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: that was the only thing he said. Well, I was

2092
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: like the little Wayne thing. I agree with, right. I

2093
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 1: just I think that Lil Wayne is a great rapper.

2094
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think that Lil Wayne. I don't even

2095
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 1: want to say this because it becomes bad. I'm just

2096
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: saying Lil Wayne can rap. That's what he's great at rapping.

2097
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: I think that we like other people because of the

2098
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: character they also play.

2099
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Speaker 3: Like.

2100
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't just like jay Z as a rapper. I

2101
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: like the character he plays. I don't like Yay as

2102
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: a rapper. I like Wayne as a rapper. I don't

2103
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: like the character he plays where he's like I don't

2104
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: like think about it. He's like Black Lives Matter. Was

2105
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: that Like he's just never been with us. He's always

2106
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: kind of been like, man, I sit in my own

2107
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: corner and do my own thing, and he's been able

2108
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: to get with that. But I don't think that's not

2109
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 1: why I would ever put him in that same space.

2110
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: And so when someone like Larrussell says, who got to

2111
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: remember listeners? I love pak more now than I did

2112
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. When I was a kid,

2113
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: I loved him, but as a man, I really love

2114
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: him because I'm like, man, this man was talking some shit.

2115
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: He was twenty two twenty three talking shit that sell

2116
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: affects me today.

2117
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Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is to look at that from

2118
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Speaker 2: the Russell standpoint.

2119
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Speaker 1: You're getting older, you becoming more of a man, and

2120
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: now you're looking at your idols like, damn, that's what

2121
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: he did. I wish you would have did this. So

2122
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: I know people judging him, but that's what happens when

2123
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: you grow. You got to think about this whole Probably

2124
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 1: grew up loving Big Daddy Kane and Rock Him, but

2125
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: at some point you got to measure yourself against them

2126
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: and be like, nah, I don't like what they did.

2127
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: I like what I'm doing. And I think that's what

2128
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Larussell is. And I think growth hurts no matter what

2129
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: any if you think about the time where you probably

2130
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: got to the furthest you was probably going through the

2131
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: most you've ever went through in that moment. So growth

2132
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: hurts anyway, bro, So to me, L Russell is just

2133
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: growing and now there's a line in the sand where

2134
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: everybody was behind him, like we love him, but now

2135
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: it's people over here that don't like him, and those

2136
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: people get that's what drives an artist. Go back to

2137
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: the WWE thing. Like my favorite wrestler of all time

2138
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: is Stone Coach Steve Austin. He's the greatest heel ever.

2139
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: I don't like a baby face.

2140
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: I like heel.

2141
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: So it's like you can play different you can play

2142
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: different sides of the fence and still win.

2143
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, we are saying the

2144
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 5: same thing with the L Russell part. I forget what

2145
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 5: he rapped about, forget the Wayne shit because I agree

2146
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 5: with Wayne thinks.

2147
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: Well, like I kind of looked at Wayne inside Ray.

2148
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 3: Was mad Wayne didn't get the super Bowl.

2149
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: Nah, no, no, no, I I don't think Wayne. I

2150
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: don't think Wayne should do the super Bowl because Wayne

2151
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: should never do. His vocals are so hard to follow,

2152
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Like imagine him singing a million like if you thought

2153
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: they had a problem with Kendrick singing damn and we

2154
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: imagine that I being in over the like it would be.

2155
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: I just don't think he should do the super Bowl.

2156
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: Wayne should not do it.

2157
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't think.

2158
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 4: And that's okay, that's what everybody's.

2159
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Not meant for the super Bowl, Like the super Bowl

2160
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: is everybody. It's not just one corner of the world.

2161
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: Because of low Wayne deserves this. So this kid Rocky,

2162
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: because he's that, he's Lil Wayne to that world.

2163
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, kid, that's what I didn't even see

2164
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 5: bad Bunny. I saw Marlon Marlon uh, but not with

2165
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 5: the Russell ship. I guess it's just interesting to see

2166
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 5: how somebody is finally dealing with not being a darling.

2167
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: I love that.

2168
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 5: That's why I'm observing this the Russell ship. And we've

2169
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 5: clowned him after he said that ship, but we support

2170
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 5: and love La Russell. I'm just observing somebody finally not

2171
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 5: being darling and how they handle that, Like it's not

2172
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 5: just a woman thing. But I judge anyone how they

2173
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 5: deal with attention. Yes, that's a attention, you said attention.

2174
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 5: That's really I like that. That's how people deal with attention.

2175
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 5: Is is kind of how I view them.

2176
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's who you are, Like, I know who

2177
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: you are once once you have but you have the light.

2178
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 5: Yes, Like how are you in this regard now? I'm

2179
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 5: not saying that in Larussell's case because Larussell's had a

2180
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 5: bunch of attention on him.

2181
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking at now how you deal with negative attention because.

2182
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 5: You have been nothing but as rightfully so, you started

2183
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 5: this shit in your backyard. You deserve every bit of

2184
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 5: flower you've gotten in this entire time. But that's not

2185
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,799
Speaker 5: how the world works. Now, you say one motherfucking thing wrong,

2186
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 5: which is kind of true about Wayne, or you say

2187
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 5: that dumb ass shit. I'm not judging Larrussell's rhymes based

2188
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 5: off that bumb ass Epstein shit because l Russell has

2189
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 5: had ten thousand hours of amazing rhymes. That makes sense.

2190
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 5: You're just an idiot and that we understand what you

2191
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 5: were saying.

2192
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Stop it.

2193
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm judging Larrussell right now of how he's dealing

2194
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 5: with negative pub what you think through the whole thing.

2195
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 5: I think that's what separates everybody. I think jay Z

2196
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,839
Speaker 5: got killed, came out and we saw how he pivoted

2197
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 5: and said, we're doing streets is watch him? Yeah, he

2198
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 5: knows how to pivot once you finally get some negative shit.

2199
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 5: To me, that defines what an artist is. And I'm

2200
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 5: finally judging Larussell. How are you going to figure out

2201
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 5: for the first time, not being the darling independent rapper?

2202
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 5: How are we moving now? Because it was stupid? Stop

2203
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 5: trying to explain. I don't know what Heaven sent me.

2204
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: Yo.

2205
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 5: It was dumb. It was dumb. It's not profound. I'm

2206
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 5: sorry what you said. We're not profound, mister school, which

2207
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 5: we all do. We all missed the market. Come on,

2208
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 5: I'm never judging somebody missing, but how you.

2209
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: Want to move?

2210
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 3: We all missed the mark.

2211
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: But but but to me, I think l Russell is

2212
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: fine becausel Russell is a household name in the hip

2213
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: hop space. And none of us probably know any of

2214
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: his music, which means we hear him talk that, we

2215
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: don't hear him rap.

2216
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 2: We know what he does, like I know a few

2217
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: of his songs.

2218
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: But I'm saying you can't pay Larussell puts out eighty

2219
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: songs a year, like he has a whole different model.

2220
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 3: Right.

2221
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 5: That was my first conversation with Rest in Peace d Hovane,

2222
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 5: which was which was his manager.

2223
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: At that point. So I can't keep up with this output. Yeah,

2224
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: he he's putting out so much music.

2225
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 5: I'm paying attention more to what he's doing in the

2226
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 5: backyard and what he's saying saying.

2227
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: I was trying to keep up with it. He was

2228
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: putting out like ten EPs in like six months.

2229
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, six month period.

2230
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: He's playing a different game. He's treating music like a

2231
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 1: I want to say, like a hustle. But he's treating

2232
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: it like it's his trap. And he's playing a different game.

2233
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: And I don't think this the Hitler thing is gonna

2234
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna blow over because he's not going to stand

2235
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: on it like YA did. Like he's not going to

2236
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: stand in it. He's like he's talked about it, because

2237
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: remember what you saw what he said. He said, he said,

2238
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: I was just trying to say they haven't said because

2239
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: everybody that's boring is having sent that they become evil.

2240
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: But you playing a game with words that can hurt people.

2241
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm like, he missed it.

2242
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 5: But he's he's acting like he's saying something profound. And

2243
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 5: we talked of the last episode. Even though I disagree

2244
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 5: with a lot of what Yay said, at least ye

2245
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 5: started a conversation that came from an actual perspective point

2246
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 5: of view. You just saying everybody's having said like you

2247
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 5: arguing with us being mad at that.

2248
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 1: It's like, though you didn't say anything profound, that was

2249
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: the first time, you know what, I have no perspective

2250
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 1: on this.

2251
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, La Russell.

2252
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the Lil Wayne thing was I didn't

2253
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: think he thought I was gonna do what it is

2254
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: because I think he was telling his truth and that

2255
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 1: was unfortunate. But I think this time is the first

2256
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: time where he he's learning, Like this is his first

2257
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: time he put his foot this mouth and he's like, oh,

2258
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: because they're not gonna he's gonna lose something for that,

2259
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Like he's probably already lost him He's probab already lost money.

2260
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: We don't want you to do a show. Probably at

2261
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 1: Missfu he was gonna get twenty five thoughts. He probably

2262
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: missed some money already because of it.

2263
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 2: But I just.

2264
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: To me, this is the first time we're gonna see

2265
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: how he handles it, And I think.

2266
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: He's a great talker.

2267
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: I just think that he should say I fucked up,

2268
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: keep it going, But he has this silly side to him.

2269
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: We'll be like, what's wrong, let's talk. I don't think

2270
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: he should do that this time. I think he should

2271
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 1: just let it go.

2272
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 4: I'm on the opposite side of it, only because l

2273
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 4: Russell was so self built. I don't think nobody that

2274
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 4: supports Larrussell's music, that knows his music will stop listening.

2275
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 3: Of course, I don't think.

2276
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 4: Nobody that has been to his backyard the goola will

2277
01:33:58,439 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 4: not go anymore.

2278
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 3: I don't think that l Russell loses anything.

2279
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 4: I think people that really don't care about any of

2280
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 4: the shit La Russell was saying are the only ones

2281
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 4: that all of a.

2282
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Sudden care about. Right Whatlla Russell was saying.

2283
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody cares about this shit the way

2284
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 4: they're trying to pretend they care about it.

2285
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 5: I think that Epstein ship was the dumbest thing ever.

2286
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 5: I'm sitting here, I'm a Larrussell supporter.

2287
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:18,480
Speaker 3: Same aaa.

2288
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 2: I thought it was stupid, but it would never change

2289
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 2: my mind. It's not going to I'm.

2290
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Like, I'm here to supports something that needs to be

2291
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: some ship. But all right, uh, there is not one

2292
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: celebrity that has ever lived that I agree with everything

2293
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 1: they said and did.

2294
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 3: Nobody, no personal.

2295
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: We live in society now where we think if we

2296
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: don't agree, that means we don't support and I think

2297
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,520
Speaker 1: that we got to lose that like it's okay to disagree.

2298
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 1: He says something dumb. Everybody does. Everybody does something dumb.

2299
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: It's how they recover afterwards that we should focus on.

2300
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: And to me, I think he deserves the benefit of

2301
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 1: the doubt because he's been after us, he's been talking,

2302
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: and he ain't fucked up.

2303
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 2: Literally, he ain't said nothing crazy. But also let's also

2304
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: be a beautiful example of how you should move.

2305
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Let's also be clear, La Russell is he's gonna learn

2306
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: this because he's with Hove now, he's under the microscope.

2307
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 2: Everything he do, they gonna think rock Nation town.

2308
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:08,759
Speaker 3: That's the difference.

2309
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 2: That's the difference.

2310
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 1: So I think that I think that he if he's smart,

2311
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: he turned it on because he's like I want rock Nation.

2312
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 1: They gonna think I'm They gonna they might as well

2313
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: do some mafioso type shit anyway, because y'all don't think it.

2314
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 2: I could see him doing that.

2315
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 5: You know what's so fucked up about the position Lar

2316
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 5: Russell's in is what he said, the Wayne thing. I

2317
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 5: know for a fact that there were people backing that

2318
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 5: clip for a smear campaign because he was signed to Jay.

2319
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 5: Mm Now with that said, with his Epstein thing, where

2320
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 5: it's catch twenty two with the internet, now you have

2321
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 5: that already, I'm signing here. Now I'm getting a smear

2322
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 5: campaign on x Twitter because I'm signed with him. Nobody

2323
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 5: give a fuck about that Wayne. Yeah, nobody really cared

2324
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 5: about that Winge shit. It was a smear campaign behind

2325
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 5: it for sure.

2326
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2327
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 5: Now I say something about Epstein and now the smear

2328
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 5: campaign is Jay told him support like, how can you

2329
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 5: even And I'm saying what he said, what's stupid? But

2330
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 5: it's now to your point, being under the microscope with

2331
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 5: everything rock Nation. That's why I laugh. People think rock

2332
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 5: Nation has way more power than it does. And I'm

2333
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 5: telling you the people against rock Nation are doing way

2334
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 5: more smear campaigns than rock Nation is doing.

2335
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 2: Y'all.

2336
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 1: I could tell you, I'll give you some insight on

2337
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: rock Nation. From that standpoint, jay Z is hated amongst

2338
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: his peers because he's the only one that's famous. So, like,

2339
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: jay Z, what do you consider it's pierous when you

2340
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: said that, the CEOs of the labels Lucien Lucien, the

2341
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 1: see like they all are trying to kill his name

2342
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: because he beats them every time. And y'all got to

2343
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: spend two million to get with Jake has spent half

2344
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: a million again because he's j So they gonna always

2345
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: hate on us. So jay Z. I remember being in

2346
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: the staff meeting with the CEO of a company Swear

2347
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: to God, just says it in front of everybody. I

2348
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: say something about jay and they was like, nobody wins

2349
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: when they do business with Jay's like in front of them, Like,

2350
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 1: yall remember this, Like this is a CEO but major

2351
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: label talking in front of fifty of his employees. Nobody

2352
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: wins in business with jay Z. That's why we don't

2353
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: do business with him. He's the only one that wins.

2354
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: That's how he is.

2355
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: And it's like, why the fuck would you say that

2356
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,719
Speaker 1: in the like, but that's the ship we're talking about.

2357
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: You have to somehow discredit him because the work. Let

2358
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: me tell y'all something, If Rock Nation gets one win

2359
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: the Big Three on Trouble.

2360
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 2: One, not not this version of rock Nation. I'm not talking.

2361
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: About with whole leading J Cole, this my little I'm

2362
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: talking about this staff, this team.

2363
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 5: If they break, something's over. The Title was the start

2364
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 5: of that, and that's why I I respect jay Z

2365
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 5: for so many things. Starting Title, to me was the

2366
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 5: most gangster shit he's ever done in his entire I

2367
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 5: thought that was a bad move.

2368
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 2: Fucking like boy.

2369
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Why it didn't work out because now the reason I

2370
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: thought it was a bad move was because the way

2371
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 1: he did it.

2372
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 2: The marketing plan was the worst thing ever.

2373
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: So if jay Z would have started Title and said,

2374
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to create a fun artist is going to

2375
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: eat from everyone type thing.

2376
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 2: But jay Z did what that.

2377
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: He has a famous line, less is more right, So

2378
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: he had so you pick, hand picked the people you

2379
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: want to be on this table with you, and now

2380
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: you got twelve of the biggest artists in the world.

2381
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: But the other nine hundred and ninety five that are

2382
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: out there like, we never fucking with you, we never

2383
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: And Title paid more than everybody else. But it was like,

2384
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: it's just about to say, you think about that. You

2385
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: know that artists out bro way more than anything about this.

2386
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Why an artist not telling everybody to listen to the

2387
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: music on title, Well, because jay Z picked the artists

2388
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: that he wanted to represent title and that was the

2389
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 1: people that I was ushered and Nicki Minaj's, the people

2390
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: that signed the pay Alicia Keys, the people that owned it. Okay,

2391
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 1: I Prince, I think Prince was.

2392
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 3: No Prince was?

2393
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 4: Did I think Prince was after the release the press release?

2394
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: I know Madonnague I think he may have passed, like

2395
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: maybe the same year. Yeah, but I know madonad was.

2396
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Prince was on stage.

2397
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 5: Hear me out, worst marketing plan ever when they had

2398
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 5: everybody on stage there, because as a consumer, we looked

2399
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 5: at it like, why are all these millionaires complaining? It

2400
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 5: was the same way when Talica did Napster and it

2401
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 5: was like like I was Metallica was, I was downloading

2402
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:24,480
Speaker 5: the kaza.

2403
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Metallica, I'm like, I know, kids money, I'm downloaded.

2404
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 5: This hit the marketing plan as as far as that

2405
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 5: of what it looked like to consumers, not what it was.

2406
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:36,919
Speaker 2: I'm talking about what I'm a consumer.

2407
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 5: It's a bunch of millionaires up here telling me they

2408
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 5: not making enough money, which is true true, But Jay

2409
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 5: at that exact same time, was also dealing with Apple

2410
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 5: about to start Apple Music, and knew that Apple Music

2411
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 5: was going to start to do their exclusive deals.

2412
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 2: They did one with Chance, they did one with Drink.

2413
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 5: Everyone knew that these DSP wars were starting out as

2414
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 5: exclusive deals. You have to pay for my app to

2415
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 5: get that. So Jay At, being the genius that he is,

2416
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 5: is saying, Yo, Nikki, I will give you steak in

2417
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 5: this and we'll put all of our albums through this

2418
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 5: entire thing. And you know who, ironically, is the only

2419
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 5: one that ever stuck to that, not even Jay Jay

2420
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 5: didn't even stick to it.

2421
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 2: Beyonce.

2422
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 5: M you couldn't get lemonade off top. Beyonce is the

2423
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 5: only one that stuck to that motherfucking deal. If everyone

2424
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 5: stuck to that deal that was on that stage, we

2425
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 5: would be having a different conversation. And I don't know

2426
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 5: the backs, I don't know why they didn't, and it's

2427
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 5: not my business to know that.

2428
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 2: I agree.

2429
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 5: I'm saying what Jay was trying to do was one

2430
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 5: of the most gangster shit I've ever seen in my life.

2431
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 5: Going against the Big three period, like you're going against

2432
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 5: you're going against Spotify in the whole country of fucking

2433
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,759
Speaker 5: Sweden at this point, if he would have gotten everyone

2434
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 5: to stick to that exclusive plan, he didn't even stick

2435
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 5: to it.

2436
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 2: I say, but why didn't he?

2437
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Because they his wife is they know he was the

2438
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: only one that stuck to it.

2439
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 2: That's real.

2440
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: I just think I just think that that was a

2441
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: bad move. I think the way he did it was bad.

2442
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 1: I think he still I wish you didn't sell it

2443
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: because I.

2444
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 2: Think that I'm glady.

2445
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: I think that the time right now to get behind

2446
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 1: title because Spotify is kind of like the reversal now, raight,

2447
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: I hear you, But consumers are based on routine, and

2448
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: at that point everyone was scrambling to hey, are you

2449
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: on Spotify or you on Apple? Title would have been

2450
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: the time to do that if all of our favorite

2451
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: artists only had exclusive albums.

2452
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 5: On that point, we're too programmed. This is my phone.

2453
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 5: I got Apple Music, Spotify. If you bring me a

2454
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 5: new DSP, I'm not signed up for it. But like,

2455
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 5: I'm just not.

2456
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: What if every artist said to you, What if every

2457
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 1: artist said, we don't we know you don't care where

2458
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: you listen to music Spotify, Apple, Twitter or whatever, But

2459
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: if you listen on title.

2460
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 2: It means more to so please good a title.

2461
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 3: I think.

2462
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 5: No, that's where you get Patreon, That's where you get

2463
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 5: those those paywall things that are important. I'm saying Jay

2464
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 5: was trying to do something that we complain about. Why

2465
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 5: don't artists have unions? Why don't everyone do it? Jay

2466
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 5: tried to do that, and no one stuck to the plant.

2467
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 5: And again I think Jay had horrible marketing with that. Yeah,

2468
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 5: that's what I don't have my guys with the masks

2469
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 5: on telling me they're poor, Like I just I'm.

2470
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Cool, we're poor, which you guys own private jets. We

2471
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 1: don't want to feel sorry for none of you. Yeah,

2472
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: like I don't want to see Diplo tell me about

2473
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: the ship. I'm just saying that he tried, and that

2474
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:32,719
Speaker 1: time is past.

2475
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 2: It's over.

2476
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 5: It's Spotify and Apple, and that's just the world that

2477
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 5: we live in the same way that it went from

2478
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 5: HBO go now it's Max now, it's everything is just

2479
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 5: falling under the same everybody.

2480
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 2: Trying to figure out what they're going to be. We

2481
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 2: don't know yet.

2482
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, I don't think the music business though, we

2483
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: still try to figure out.

2484
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 2: I think Iceman is going to tell.

2485
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 4: Us, well, I want to think that's supposed to put.

2486
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 4: I cannot wait until this album come out because I

2487
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 4: want to have a conversation with you.

2488
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 2: Bro, liter Cup anytime, and y'all come to that Lanta.

2489
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: We follow each other like, Bro, y'all, I love this

2490
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: shit because y'all are peerist. No matter what, I like

2491
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 1: peerists like keep it pure.

2492
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 3: Absolutely, don't.

2493
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: Don't dilute the waters for yourself because that's cheating. Like,

2494
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: just keep it pure, bro, Like, as long as it's pure.

2495
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: Everybody got a chance to win. It's like sports. It's

2496
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: like just gets nigga. Everybody get a chance to win.

2497
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: Don't just cheat for one person.

2498
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna were gonna have a good We're gonna have

2499
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 4: a conversation once this Iceman album dropped. I'm coming back

2500
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 4: once everything happens, please, Like, I can't. I can't wait

2501
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 4: to sit next to Ray and then have another conversation

2502
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 4: about you know, everything that has transpired.

2503
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 2: You know he've from the Bronx on the Love Really

2504
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Patterson projects.

2505
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 3: Nah.

2506
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: I went to PSA team, I graduated, I went to

2507
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: one eighty three middle school, junior high school. I left

2508
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: the Bronx when I was twelve, right after my twelve birthday.

2509
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, and I talk like that I loved. Let

2510
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: me tell you something I loved. I was in New York,

2511
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: New York, New York from twelve to fourteen. When I

2512
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: came to some of that Biggie dropped, Juicy dropped. That's summer.

2513
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: Biggie had New York on fire. I came to see

2514
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: my family. I was New York all day. I hang

2515
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: around my cousins. They like, you old country motherfucker. And

2516
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, like I'm representing you, ain't you

2517
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: country ass nigga? That was like shit, I might as

2518
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: well be from Atlanta. Y'all are gonna represent. I can't represent.

2519
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 1: And I always say, bro, if you go to passing

2520
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 1: projects right now, you might run into a cousin of mine.

2521
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: Might one out of a million chances maybe. But if

2522
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 1: you go anywhere in Atlanta, Georgia and you say my name,

2523
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 1: they all see me grind. That's why I claim Atlanta,

2524
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: because that's why I became a man. But I did

2525
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 1: see the bronx hustling. I do come from something from

2526
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: early early DNA years. And I'll tell people I think

2527
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm great at music because I grew up in the

2528
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 1: New York in the eighties, so I've seen the block

2529
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: party turn into hip hop being what it is. And

2530
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 1: then I left atlant for Atlanta in ninety one and

2531
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: now I'm watching Atlanta flourish and I'm also seeing New

2532
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 1: York flourish. So I had that point, but I wanted

2533
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 1: to tell you something real quick. So I'm the creative

2534
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: director of the cut. It's a haircut out and I

2535
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. You know so we got jacket for you,

2536
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 1: but I want to for I got this for you.

2537
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 1: I got one in my pocket. I'm gonna show y'all.

2538
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna offer that. Listen, I'm gonna get this to

2539
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: my guys. I only even hold on. I think I'm

2540
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: here go free haircuts for a year, oh wow for you.

2541
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 1: Free and rory for you too. So all you gotta

2542
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 1: do is all you gotta do a tough cut. It's fun,

2543
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:17,600
Speaker 1: no no. But what I'm saying, as many times you

2544
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: want to get your haircut, that's your gold card. All

2545
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,759
Speaker 1: you gotta do is you can say with the same barber.

2546
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is tell your barber the download

2547
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 1: the app he should already. We got three hundred thousand

2548
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: barbers on the app. Tell him to download the app.

2549
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Every time you get a haircut. He pressed the button.

2550
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: You said it with him, he gets paid. You don't

2551
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: have to cover nothing. So yeah, free haircuts on me, man.

2552
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: I just want to thank y'all for having me on

2553
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 1: y'all show.

2554
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Yeah, because I'm gonna get I'm gonna

2555
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 2: get my barbered.

2556
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:42,600
Speaker 1: You don't love you, by the way the spire and

2557
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 1: by the way listen, and I'm gonna tell y'all, y'all

2558
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 1: if y'all shout it out time to time, I shout

2559
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 1: it from time to time, we might give y'all another

2560
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 1: year and another year.

2561
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 2: Like come on, brother like and.

2562
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 1: If you ever want to do something in the community,

2563
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: give haircuts to your neighborhood.

2564
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 2: Anything with haircuts, barbering, call us.

2565
01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 3: We got you.

2566
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 5: They climb me a lot because my barber is also

2567
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 5: Jake Coles barber Sam by the way here.

2568
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: And we have you can do house calls too, Okay, Yeah,

2569
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you're out of town, anywhere you

2570
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: go anywhere you need a haircut, I'm the fucking you

2571
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: on Africa wherever you go use that.

2572
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 5: Barbara gonna find you come cut your hair on us.

2573
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 5: The cut the cut, and if my barber signs up

2574
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 5: for this, I could use that. You probably already on there,

2575
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 5: but all you gotta do is sign up for that.

2576
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 5: And when you get his haircut, he gets paid. All

2577
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 5: your money gonna pay him that.

2578
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, cool, this is dope. Thanks for having me, man.

2579
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 1: I just want to appreciate you'all for having Ray. I

2580
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 1: appreciate you. We're gonna talk to you a man.

2581
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 5: Please come back after the show. We definitely want to

2582
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 5: go on your platform.

2583
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 1: Listen anytime y'all in Atlanta, y'all come pull up, coming

2584
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: to talk.

2585
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm coming.

2586
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 2: I like talking shit, you know, I like talking shit,

2587
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 2: and I love it. I love it.

2588
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 3: I love it.

2589
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm glad we finally got a chance to sit down

2590
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 4: and talk. Appreciate everything you bring to the coach old

2591
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 4: conversations and keep the knowledge all of the Jews that

2592
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 4: you drop.

2593
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: That's Ray Daniels.

2594
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 3: I'm that nigga.

2595
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: He's just ginger.

2596
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 3: Peace.