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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: at Law. We are the world's number one podcast for

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Speaker 1: everything cannabis.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one o one.

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Speaker 3: My name is Blue.

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Speaker 2: Alongside of me is Joe Grande and the world famous

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Speaker 2: Pot Brothers at Law. And you are now tuned into

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Speaker 2: the greatest cannabis show in the country, in the world.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely on my block, the most famous across all

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Speaker 3: ipot say it again, across all what we smoke another?

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Speaker 4: Maybe the podcast?

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Speaker 3: Did you lose them? Oh my god's not smoking before

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Speaker 3: we came on right now, and this is why this

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Speaker 3: smoke sweet before.

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Speaker 4: You always can quarantine. I took quarantine. I haven't for

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Speaker 4: looked enough today is the problem. I mean, he doesn't

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Speaker 4: smoke all day and I and I just took my

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Speaker 4: first hit just now. So yeah, but yeah, remember the

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Speaker 4: best first drink. You have the best podcast in the

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Speaker 4: galaxy for sure.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 2: You know what funny Craig is yesterday it was you

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Speaker 2: forgot the script?

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Speaker 3: I did. I did not.

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Speaker 4: I was given a twist. I was given a coronavirus

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Speaker 4: twist to the script, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Where it is, guys, we got an amazing show for

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Speaker 2: you guys today. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us, Craig and let me say this, Joe,

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Speaker 2: let us know what's going on with the ship.

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Speaker 3: But thank you guys all for listening to the podcast

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Speaker 3: Cannabis Talk one on one on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

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Speaker 3: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. But before we

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Speaker 3: start the show, I got to tell you guys about

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Speaker 3: some new science regarding cannabis and it's saying it's making

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Speaker 3: you less constipated. If you're struggling with constant, heavy bow movements,

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Speaker 3: you might want to try smoking some weed. This is

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Speaker 3: according to research published in the American Journal of Gas

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Speaker 3: tril internal Ology, and inter Ology. One of these publicists,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I'm far from a

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Speaker 3: doctor and I can't read. But bottom line is those

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Speaker 3: who recently smoked weed were less likely to suffer from constipation. Now,

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Speaker 3: this study lasts about six years, which is dope, But

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Speaker 3: scientists still don't completely understand how the cannabis affects the

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Speaker 3: gas show system and the digestive process all this. But

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering with you guys, especially you Mark and Craig,

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Speaker 3: does it really help you? I mean, Craig, I understand

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Speaker 3: now why you wear it depends all the time.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I'm just wondering it really helps. I'm not even

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Speaker 4: sixty yet, Joe, I'm not even sixty yet. See Stincy's

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Speaker 4: sixty yet, So want of poop?

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Speaker 3: Does it help you? Because I take a probiotic every day,

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Speaker 3: actually every day and every night my wife has.

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Speaker 4: I was sixteen, I don't know if it helps or not.

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Speaker 3: Have you been.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem in that department you can poop?

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Speaker 4: Do you have an idel? I don't have an issue

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Speaker 4: in that department, so I don't. Maybe it's been helping

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Speaker 4: me all these years since I was in the last

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Speaker 4: forty something years.

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Speaker 3: And then what about little brother?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well I have irritable bow syndrome, not IBS.

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Speaker 5: You know, I deal with that, but you yeah, and

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Speaker 5: and and I'm not having any problems, you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: You know, I have nice, comfortable, soft long you know

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Speaker 3: But you know, I wish the description. I was mentally

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Speaker 3: going down it with you, and I mentally went there.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay, because that's that's.

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Speaker 4: What you want. That's what you want when you have

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Speaker 4: a bowel movement. Yeah, big brother, doctor duty, Yeah, doc dud.

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Speaker 3: Do you notice it when you're smoking weed that you

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Speaker 2: Let me say this, actually's funny to say that, because

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Speaker 2: this one. Because when I do edibles, I noticed the

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Speaker 2: smell of cannabis made in your poop in my poop.

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Speaker 2: So if I eat an edible and and I actually

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Speaker 4: So Marcus, your.

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Speaker 3: Bathroom must smell like weed all day every day.

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Speaker 2: Don't you come over tomorrow, Joe, and I'll let you

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna come in a big old white mascot. Just

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Speaker 4: He smells like butterible edible bubble. It might change the color,

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute, now, is that just th HC? Or

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Speaker 5: is what about CBD?

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Speaker 4: Because you Joe, you you won't you use only CBD?

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Speaker 5: Have you noticed anything with regards to I just got

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Speaker 5: some new CBD pre roll joints too, from your boy

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Speaker 5: who dropped them off today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I believe the those are the exclusive STF you

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Speaker 5: uh silent pre roll.

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Speaker 3: The taste nice. I cannot wait to smoke, I know,

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Speaker 3: thank you Blue for giving me credit for that. Oh wait, though,

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Speaker 3: as you No, Actually, when I smoke it, I just

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Speaker 3: can't say I reflect and go, oh yeah, it helps

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Speaker 3: me more or not. I don't have can't why I

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Speaker 3: don't smoke? We right, Yeah, I just won't change spoke.

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Speaker 3: I smoke CBD.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: But in the article though, it didn't mention UC CBD

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Speaker 3: and everything else too, so it did say by using

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Speaker 3: all of it, it does.

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Speaker 4: You have problems? Joe?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't, like I said, I take a probi

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Speaker 4: I wonder, I wonder what's uh, I wonder who's making

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Speaker 3: Craig, can you show down? We're still talking about poop

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Speaker 3: and THCD.

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Speaker 4: I know I was trying to change the subject.

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Speaker 3: I want to get this out there.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about poop and tc.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. Well, you guys sit out of the show. Craig

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Speaker 3: has a bad hairdo, but he does have some cannabis

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Speaker 3: all at our houses, of course because of COVID nineteen,

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Speaker 4: COVID hair right now, no hair cut. I usually get

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Speaker 4: it done every six weeks and it's and for those

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Speaker 4: who don't know, please let me educate you.

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Speaker 3: When he says every six weeks, that means he's on

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Speaker 2: Now with the cod.

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Speaker 4: By the one person I haven't gidden cut, I have

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Speaker 4: him hair in person at where's that one person at? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the guys, wait, you're gonna until they open everything back up.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get better, he looks like and I like

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Speaker 4: it so crazy cannabis news.

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Speaker 3: Little brother Mark Washer has stories from when cannabis goes bad,

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Speaker 3: and he always has great ones. I got your go

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Speaker 3: green money making stories. And I got this good story

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Speaker 3: out of the Bay Area that you're gonna like to

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Speaker 3: hear because it's gonna help keep people safe and save

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Speaker 3: a lot of time. And now it's time to hear

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Speaker 3: from Blue with who's making waves out there in the

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Speaker 3: cannabis industry? Brother, what's going down?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 2: Dan Bullsarian, owner of cannabis brand Ignite, is perhaps one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest influences in cannabis. Formerly known as the

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Speaker 2: King of Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Not a lot of people always has around him in

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Speaker 3: all this posts, he's oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, yes, So this guy, this guy actually you know,

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Speaker 2: first fifty million dollars in playing poker.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't big up to him.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your service, Dan. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So so truthfully, this guy's got, you know, an amazing

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Speaker 2: have seen his parties on social media, but he throws

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Speaker 2: parties with some of the Vegas. Oh they're extravagant. I

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Speaker 2: mean he's had one where like a Halloween party with

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. He invited Davin Granny to one

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Speaker 4: of his parties, I remember last year, so she was

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Speaker 4: a little giddy about it. And you know, people say

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Speaker 4: some good things, bad things about the guy. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you don't have haters, most times you haven't made it.

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Speaker 4: You know, that says the haters.

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Speaker 3: But you was going to be invited next.

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Speaker 2: I was going to go into that. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people don't like the fact that it seems like he's

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Speaker 2: he takes them all these exotic places and and it's

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Speaker 2: but for me, I feel like he's the new Hugh Hefner,

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Speaker 2: you know it. But for cannabis now, you know, and

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Speaker 2: it's it's weird because you know, he's actually feeling a

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Speaker 2: nature for himself because he's that, you know, that influenceable.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he should start bringing tigers around him as well,

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Speaker 3: so you can have women and tigers like the Tiger

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is that the is that the new stigma we

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Speaker 2: It's not that. It's not that. So here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: You know the guy, the guy's brother a veteran, right,

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Speaker 2: he's a he's a huge hit.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He's actually made fifty million dollars in playing poker. Then

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Speaker 2: he turned around and has twenty six million followers on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: But prior to to to to Cannabis created the company

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Speaker 2: Ignite and now has has branded it out there to

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Speaker 2: be one of the biggest companies in cannabis history. The

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Speaker 2: guy's crushing it, Mark, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: But he's eating off women and stuff.

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Speaker 3: He's paying these women to be around.

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Speaker 5: Joe, Joe, the things you have done in your radio,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to even hear from you.

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Speaker 4: I I know you love all everything.

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Speaker 3: Bothered by Dan having all these chicks in the pictures

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Speaker 3: that you put in your spank bink.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's it's not about it's not about

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Speaker 4: But we're sitting up here, we're Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 5: I we have some trailers and promos run and talking

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Speaker 5: reason to go out and say they're already saying it.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're exploiting people, you're exploiting women. You know,

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Speaker 4: eat somebody.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference there.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between you know, going out there and

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Speaker 2: and be abusive, but having beautiful women carry your brand

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Speaker 4: Cannabis, or I can understand. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people the Navy.

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Speaker 2: This guy's the Navy seal.

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Speaker 3: Why does that even bother? You know?

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Speaker 4: You know what, Joe, You know what, Joe, he's jealous.

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Speaker 2: Well, there it is, guys. It's cannabis talk one on

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Speaker 4: Let's get straight into it, Joe, Let's go straight into it.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny. This is a story I think you

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Speaker 4: two of them have not done it yet. That's why

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I think Adam is the one

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Speaker 3: of these big cannabis influencer chicks that bought it. I

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Speaker 4: Doesn't it doesn't look good for med men at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, my theory, what happened, Joe, what

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Speaker 4: There's second don't blue Blue, You don't understand they don't

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Speaker 3: Is Joe not Blue? I don't know how old you're getting.

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Speaker 4: I said Joe.

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Speaker 5: This is.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, I'm looking at he said, he said, you said Blue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, really.

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Speaker 4: It's directed to Joe because he's the one who was all,

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Speaker 4: you know, they can never fail and blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: Anybody's listening to this podcasting is a doctor? Can you

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Speaker 3: please listen to Craig and if he's okay.

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Speaker 4: You know what. This is what Joe. This is what

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Speaker 4: Joe does when he doesn't get his way, having a position,

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Speaker 3: Let me be blue and I have said, we believe

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Speaker 3: Medmen is so big strong that they're gonna go and

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Speaker 3: gonna say to that. That sucks for what's going on there.

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Speaker 3: But here's their what they can lean back on. They

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Speaker 4: Their smaller markets, their l a market. I don't know

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Speaker 4: gonna cut you off because you don't know your facts. Okay.

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Speaker 4: They don't own the properties their least, they don't necessarily

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Speaker 4: So well that's not that we're not talking about. And

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Speaker 4: they should probably do. But the way they did things.

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Speaker 4: We read in the paper there was a lawsuit buying

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Speaker 2: Let me say this. Let me say this real quick,

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Speaker 4: This has this has nothing to do with that because

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Speaker 2: But the shareholders are what afraid? So what happens? They sell, sell, sell,

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Speaker 2: So now they don't have that capital to operate. They

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Speaker 2: they're down. I'm not saying that they didn't have problems already.

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Speaker 4: I'm not they have Maybe they have money to pay

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Speaker 3: You keep saying, do you have a reference that you

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Speaker 4: You know, no absolute proof that they're calling up they're

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes that money in business sto that's what happens.

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Speaker 4: I mean, stuff goes bad. I'm just saying, though, I'm

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Speaker 4: at Law and that was your cannabis news. What do

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think you're just having a hard

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Speaker 4: To argue with me if you don't got the facts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my facts are right.

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Speaker 4: Marketing Blue actually to give you a huge amount of credit, Blue,

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Speaker 4: you argue facts about what's occurring now, and what's causing

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Speaker 4: the stock market to crash. Okay, the stock market crashing

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Speaker 4: is different than what I'm talking about. And these guys

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Speaker 4: it's other stuff that's different. What you said is to

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Speaker 2: Well, I think this. I think they'll have some kind

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Speaker 4: I don't wish any any business, let alone the cannabis

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Speaker 3: And I think what they've done in their concept being

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Speaker 4: You're the guy had loaned, unless you're these guys who

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Speaker 4: They could be out two million bucks in lawsuit. Yeah

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Speaker 4: not fun. I don't fun.

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Speaker 2: But hey, big Joe, let's go green baby.

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Speaker 3: I already told you guys about how legal marijuana dollars

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Speaker 3: and they're saying, Joe, your Go Green segment was dead on,

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Speaker 4: But I did tell you that I hurry on it.

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Speaker 4: It was very.

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Speaker 3: Strong and it's beautiful. And shut up, mister Orange man. Anyhow, Craig,

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Speaker 3: don't take me down a side path, you bastard. I

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Speaker 3: But now I'm going to talk about a company, Kaliba

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Speaker 3: huge entity out there, you know. I mean Jay z

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Speaker 3: is their chief marketing guy, if I'm not mistaken, or

442
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Speaker 3: PR guy Joe Montana put in like fifty million on

443
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Speaker 3: the company. But so what I did was I actually

444
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Speaker 3: called Hyper earlier today and I talked to the director

445
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Speaker 3: of marketing and I wanted to get some more information

446
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Speaker 3: on exactly how it works because I've helped a lot

447
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Speaker 3: of companies in the past that are dispensaries or cannabis

448
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: companies deal in this payment processing solution, and a lot

449
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Speaker 3: of these things are work around, so I wanted to

450
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Speaker 3: get deep into it. So I'm explaining to you guys

451
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Speaker 3: how this works and how it's actually great. So I

452
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Speaker 3: finally found this company Hyper that I'm like, hmmm, this

453
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Speaker 3: works amazing because there was another company called PPI that

454
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Speaker 3: was doing all the dispensaries before. Meaning if you went

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Speaker 3: to a dispensary, I don't care if you were in

456
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Speaker 3: an La, Chicago, New York, Arizona, you were able to

457
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Speaker 3: pay with your debt.

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Speaker 4: How does it work so you're able to pay with

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Speaker 4: your debit card?

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Speaker 3: It's the acch rails there's two different rails, right, so

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Speaker 3: there's acch rail, which is your.

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Speaker 4: Debit what's a rail.

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about like a way you can use

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Speaker 3: your card. So if you pull out your credit cards

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Speaker 3: and debit cards, even though one may look like that's

466
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: both of them, when you processing, it goes down different rails,

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Speaker 3: different channels.

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Speaker 4: Talk like everybody knows about process well and exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I'm trying to.

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Speaker 4: Point is there's two ways.

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Speaker 3: If there are two ways of getting the money from it, right,

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Speaker 3: it's the credit side or your debit side, but that's

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Speaker 3: with your card. So this thing Hyper what they did

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Speaker 3: is they created this app now just to use the

475
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Speaker 3: you know, it's like PayPal, but it's not PayPal right

476
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Speaker 3: because PayPal you can pay with a credit card. On

477
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Speaker 3: this app, it has to directly connect to your ACH account.

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Speaker 3: Here's the difference from what PPI was doing. The first

479
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Speaker 3: company that got shut down early on when you were

480
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Speaker 3: able to buy cannabis before is because Visa got upset

481
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Speaker 3: that they were going on these ACH rails, which was

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Speaker 3: the going straight to your bank account, but they were

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Speaker 3: using a card to do that. Swipe Hyper said I'm

484
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Speaker 3: going to punch in your card your your your numbers

485
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Speaker 3: from your check, right, So I'm gonna see your numbers

486
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Speaker 3: from your check and I'm gonna directly go to your

487
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Speaker 3: checking accounts. So that's the AH way. So this is

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Speaker 3: their work, not not at work around, so to speak,

489
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Speaker 3: but going directly to your bank account. So they're no

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Speaker 3: longer using the visa MasterCard rails of collecting money from

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Speaker 3: your own bank account. So if that's too hard to understand,

492
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Speaker 3: I'm just finally happy that I get it. And the

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Speaker 3: best part about this is Hyper is not charging the

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Speaker 3: customers that come in to do this. A lot of

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Speaker 3: these places, you guys, were actually charging customers another three

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Speaker 3: dollars and fifty.

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Speaker 2: Cents to use your card. So really, I mean so really, Joe,

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Speaker 2: It's just a debit. It's like cashing a check.

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Speaker 3: It's like cashing a check. Bottom line is you get

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Speaker 3: an app.

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Speaker 2: I was just exploited card.

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Speaker 4: No cardard, you're not using a bank.

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Speaker 3: You get the app, you guys. It's kind of like

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Speaker 3: you know, PayPal. You connect the app to your bank account,

505
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: so that's how you do it, but it's only through

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Speaker 3: the ACCH you can't do a credit card. And then

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Speaker 3: when you do that, the other good part that Hyper's doing.

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Speaker 3: They're only charging the merchants about three percent, so that's

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Speaker 3: good for the merchants. And I'm all about companies saving

510
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Speaker 3: money because these other companies that were doing them, they're

511
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Speaker 3: hitting them for like five six percent and then a

512
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Speaker 3: three dollars service fee and all this stuff. As I said,

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Speaker 3: I helped a lot of businesses do this. I love

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Speaker 3: what they were doing. I love the people that I

515
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Speaker 3: were talking to at Hyper And the only problem is

516
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Speaker 3: not a lot of dispensaries have it. So it's a

517
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Speaker 3: beautiful app that people can use. And if you can

518
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Speaker 3: do it, especially during this COVID nineteen time, you're gonna

519
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: say from touching your money, who knows where that money

520
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: is going in there and getting money back you just

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Speaker 3: use the app. And I'm really happy to say that

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Speaker 3: Dennis O'Malley, the CEO of that company out there, Khaliva,

523
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Speaker 3: he hooked up with them to say we're going to

524
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Speaker 3: try to be a little safer, So more dispensaries try

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Speaker 3: to be a little safer real quick.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Kaliva, man, they carry a lot of products,

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Speaker 2: you know, like vabes, flowers, edibles, wellness products, CBD and

528
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Speaker 2: things like that. They have some very very fantastic gummies

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Speaker 2: and just awesome products, and you know, I, you know,

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Speaker 2: I really think that they're a huge brand that's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: They're integrated. I have all grows and everything else. And

532
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Speaker 3: the way they do their grows. If you go to

533
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Speaker 3: Kaliva dot com and watch how they do their goes.

534
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Speaker 3: They're in white suits, they're in shoe Marxers. They're not

535
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Speaker 3: allowing tennis shoes to walk into their grow areas. They

536
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: treat it like a straight medicine lab, like crazy over

537
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Speaker 3: the top matamo and it's just for recreational youth. So

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Speaker 3: I just think that more companies don't use adult use

539
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Speaker 3: medical use. I thank you, But don't you guys agree

540
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Speaker 3: that it's great for somebody to look out and say,

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Speaker 3: you know what, why come out with cash when you

542
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Speaker 3: could do something that's still using your own cash to

543
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Speaker 3: buy it? But I think more dispensaries should do this,

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Speaker 3: your guys' thoughts.

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Speaker 4: On it, I don't know why they wouldn't. It'd be

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Speaker 4: another option to, you know, for selling geez well.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of dispensaries still like the cash,

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Speaker 2: you know, just to be honest with you people. People

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Speaker 2: enjoy cash, you know, whatever reason.

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Speaker 3: Why I can reason why getting charged three percent to

551
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Speaker 3: use this, but it's not that much. It's part cost

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Speaker 3: of doing business. But I hear you.

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Speaker 4: Well, safety too, Safety because people deliveries.

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Speaker 3: That's the key thing right there, Mark, for safety of

555
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: delivery services. Why now when you deliver it to me,

556
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about somebody following you and

557
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: robbing both of us, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, or and and bonus, you're not touching other people's money.

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Speaker 2: That's true, especially now right now, right now, that makes

560
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Speaker 2: the most sense. And and I see it as the future,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be difficult for the world to change.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We're just so used to paying cash for cannabis. It's

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like a traditional thing.

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Speaker 3: But and it's federally I legal to use a credit card.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I'm giving props out to these two

567
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Speaker 3: companies Khaliva and hyper and not only that, to do

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Speaker 3: it for a good cause of like trying to save

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Speaker 3: people's lives. I'm Joe Grande and that's your go green moments.

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Speaker 3: Mark Washerman aka little brother of the world famous pop

571
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Speaker 3: Brothers at Law. What's going on with when Cannabis Goes Bad.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Joe.

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Speaker 5: But before I get into that, I would like to

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Speaker 5: give a very special thanks to our producer Elvis, working

575
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Speaker 5: tirelessly at home even and he just tested negative, testing

576
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Speaker 5: positive after being positive and going through it all for

577
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Speaker 5: a couple of weeks. Elvis, we love you, Thank you

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Speaker 5: for all you do. And we also want to thank

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Speaker 5: our social media director Jennifer Dan at the Hollywood iHeart

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Speaker 5: Building for helping us get this podcast up and out

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Speaker 5: to the world. Sophie, Jack and Will, and a huge

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Speaker 5: shout out to big Boy, Big Boy and everyone else

583
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Speaker 5: who's supported Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 4: We truly appreciate you all.

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Speaker 5: Now, you know, I like to rip these stories from

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Speaker 5: out of the headlines wherever I can get them all

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Speaker 5: over the world. But today we're going back to a

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Speaker 5: consultation call for when Cannabis Goes Bad because we receive

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Speaker 5: these calls almost daily. So can we record we have

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Speaker 5: a woman recall them. Well, we need their permission to

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Speaker 5: do that, and we have actually.

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Speaker 4: We've we we've clip of them.

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Speaker 5: We've done it in the past, so we can we

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Speaker 5: can certainly listen in on some of them who don't mind.

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Speaker 4: But this woman called she was pulled over.

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Speaker 5: At one am in Del Norte, California.

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Speaker 3: Well, be out after twelve o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Like my mama used to say, nothing good happens after midnight. Right,

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Speaker 4: there you go.

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Speaker 5: That's one note. It's about to go bad. So the

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Speaker 5: officer started the conversation by letting her know the reason

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Speaker 5: why she was pulled over now, which was not for

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Speaker 5: swerving or any other indication.

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Speaker 4: Of impaired driver. She was white getting pulled over.

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Speaker 5: Acasian Okay, she was Caucasian, and this is what she

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Speaker 5: got pulled over for. And we've been saying this for

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00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: a while now, and it's been going on across the country.

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Speaker 5: We hear getting pulled over for the illuminating light on

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Speaker 5: your rear driver's license plate being out. Now, I know,

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Speaker 5: you know, I've done other stories from Cannabis goes bad

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Speaker 5: and it starts like this a lot that that lights out,

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Speaker 5: they pull you over. Now, now, getting back to what

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00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: this officer was doing is really good teaching moment because

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Speaker 5: you never know which officer you are going to make.

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Speaker 5: The officer, the officer that truly truly wants to keep

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Speaker 5: people safe. He intends on giving you the traffic citation

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Speaker 5: you were pulled over for, unless something jumps out of

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Speaker 5: his face, or the officer who is looking to turn

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Speaker 5: that traffic stop into a dui or some felony or misdemeanor.

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Speaker 5: So now when they immediately of them, well, well when

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Speaker 5: they immediately tell you why they pulled you over, which

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Speaker 5: is what they're supposed to do, it's either the officer

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Speaker 5: who really wants to just give you that ticket and

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Speaker 5: let you be on your way, or he's taking that

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00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: friendly approach, which is to get you comfortable so you

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Speaker 5: will answer questions later on. And so this officer then

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Speaker 5: asked this one compound question. He did, Joe, do you

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Speaker 5: know what a compound question is?

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Speaker 3: I know, but I know what a compound is. It's

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Speaker 3: where I used to live at when I was locked

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Speaker 3: up in this basement growing up.

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Speaker 4: I well, I wanted to make sure.

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Speaker 5: So a compound question is when somebody asked a question

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Speaker 5: that's full of other questions.

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Speaker 3: So here, what did you say?

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Speaker 4: I all right? Have you?

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Speaker 5: And so here was here was the question have you

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Speaker 5: had any alcohol, drugs or marijuana this evening?

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Speaker 3: I'm not discussing what she said.

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Speaker 4: What you know what Joe hold on.

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Speaker 5: Now, you're a little ahead of me, because I was

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Speaker 5: going to ask you, what's the first thing she should say?

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Speaker 5: You were close, But I'll give you one more chance.

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Speaker 5: Now she just got pulled over.

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Speaker 3: Why am I being pulled over?

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Speaker 4: Officer?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 4: But that's okay? But that's okay.

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Speaker 5: I would you repeated any even though he just said it?

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Speaker 5: Say it back to him.

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Speaker 4: Why did you pull me over and make him repeat?

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Speaker 3: Ask me a question if I I'm not discussing my

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Speaker 3: day boo.

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Speaker 4: And that that was just and that's and that's coming.

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Speaker 5: And so she said instead of that I smoked about

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Speaker 5: an hour ago.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I.

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Speaker 4: Smoked about two hours ago. Waited an hour and then I.

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Speaker 5: Left and she was taking a ten minute drive from

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Speaker 5: her friend's house.

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Speaker 3: Can I just tell people that it's not lying if

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Speaker 3: you don't say it, okay, it's not why I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not That's why I'm not discussing my day.

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Speaker 3: So nervous are I don't want to lie? And shut

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Speaker 3: the fuck up?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. You never lie, You never lied, never

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Speaker 4: say it.

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Speaker 5: So so she then made another bad move when she

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Speaker 5: did all of the requested field sobriety tests now here

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Speaker 5: in California, those are voluntary and in some in other

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Speaker 5: states too. You got to google it in your state,

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Speaker 5: but a lot of a lot of states it's voluntary

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Speaker 5: for your rests are geared to get you to fail.

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Speaker 5: And so in California we'll speak to that. You don't

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Speaker 5: have to do the field sobriety test. Side note, if

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Speaker 5: you get arrested and taken into custody, then you have

678
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Speaker 5: to do a blood breath or urine test or the

679
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Speaker 5: DMV will take your license for a year under what's

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Speaker 5: called the implied consent law. So you don't want to

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Speaker 5: do those here in California. She did all those and

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Speaker 5: they're gonna say she failed, and they always do that.

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Speaker 5: And then the officer asked her another question, which you know,

684
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Speaker 5: I've been doing criminal defense for twenty four years and

685
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Speaker 5: reading police reports and surveillance reports, seen a lot of

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Speaker 5: crazy things, heard a lot of crazy things. But this question,

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Speaker 5: I've this question, He asked her, on a scale of

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Speaker 5: one to ten, how affected are you by the cannabis

689
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Speaker 5: you smoked two hours ago?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 5: What should have been her response if we're sticking to

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Speaker 5: the script, not discussing my day, But she.

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Speaker 3: Already messed up by saying that, So she can't. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I discuss or.

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Speaker 4: Or or if you're on your toes, you're like, nothing

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Speaker 4: doesn't affect me at all. So I'm not discussing my day.

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Speaker 5: But we we can't get so lucky here, because this

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Speaker 5: is when cannabis goes bad.

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Speaker 4: And she said four. You know, it's like picking an

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Speaker 4: arbitrary number.

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Speaker 3: Out of the air, but just say one. Nothing. I

702
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Speaker 3: don't feel nothing.

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Speaker 4: And that's even more surprising. I'm not discussing my day.

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Speaker 4: That's why you can't grow up.

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Speaker 2: You've already you've already just incriminated yourself, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean because you know, police officers like, well, how drunk

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Speaker 2: are you? Between wanted.

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Speaker 3: Well and see?

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Speaker 5: And this is this is this is a lot of example,

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Speaker 5: a good example of why what we say about the

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Speaker 5: script and doing what we say is important to defending cases,

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Speaker 5: because in a case like this, if she did not talk,

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Speaker 5: if she followed the script and SDF you and everything

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Speaker 5: we say, it's a completely defendable case.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these cannabis.

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Speaker 5: DUIs will be completely defendable if you don't say anything.

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Speaker 5: Her statement I smoked about an hour ago. I mean

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Speaker 5: I smoked about two hours and waited and then I

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Speaker 5: left and then answering the scale, that's horrible.

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Speaker 4: What do you tell her?

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Speaker 3: What do you tell her besides you know your consultation

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Speaker 3: feast four grand.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, no, it's not four grand is we have

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Speaker 5: very reasonable Actually we just started doing zoom consultations for

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Speaker 5: drastically discounted rates. So you know, eight five five washed lots.

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Speaker 5: This cannabis goes bad for you. You can you can

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Speaker 5: give us a call and we can talk about it.

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Speaker 5: But I tell you the truth, as you know from

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Speaker 5: from our videos, as you know from us being you know,

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Speaker 5: me and my brother who we are, we tell it

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Speaker 5: like it is and we're not going to sugarcoat it.

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Speaker 5: And with my you know, criminal defense attorney hat on,

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Speaker 5: a statement like that is just killer. If a jury

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Speaker 5: here's a statement like that. There's so many reefer madness

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Speaker 5: out there, people out there that are just so worried

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Speaker 5: that they'll, oh, no, she spoke two hours and she's

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Speaker 5: got to.

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Speaker 3: Take her case like that and let her know, look

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Speaker 3: at your chances of really getting off for very slim

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Speaker 3: because you open your mouth and it's just now we

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Speaker 3: have to try these other angles of I mean, what

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Speaker 3: are you saying.

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Speaker 4: It's like, it's like it's like this. You know, you're

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Speaker 4: you've you've.

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Speaker 5: Got yourself in a bad spot. And when they first

746
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Speaker 5: come like this, like now, I need to wait and see.

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Speaker 5: When we go in all criminal defense case, whether it's

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Speaker 5: jaywalking or attempted murder, we're going in we're pleading not

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Speaker 5: guilty because I need to see the evidence.

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Speaker 4: I need to.

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Speaker 5: See what they're portraying as the evidence that's going to

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Speaker 5: persuade a jury at the end of the day to

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Speaker 5: convict my client. Where's the where's your PAF? You know,

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Speaker 5: maybe maybe the cop messes up on the report.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: All I know is that we have to look at

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Speaker 5: the police report, look at surveillance evidence, if there's audio video,

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Speaker 5: and put it all together and see where we could

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Speaker 5: put poke holes.

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Speaker 4: And you know, because.

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Speaker 5: Her statement alone while damaging, with proper experts for these

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Speaker 5: marijuana cannabis DUIs, you can get in there and show, look,

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Speaker 5: there was no driving that was impaired, she wasn't swerving,

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Speaker 5: there was just what oh, and then these arbitrary touch

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Speaker 5: your nose and do this. We can get our own

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Speaker 5: experts to come in and then breaking down the blood.

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Speaker 4: That's the major.

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Speaker 5: Factor because of what's called the active THC and carboxytch

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Speaker 5: which is non CARBOXYTCHC, which is non psychoactive, and that

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Speaker 5: gets ready.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different factors.

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Speaker 5: But we as criminal defense attorneys cannot help you to

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Speaker 5: the best.

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Speaker 4: Of our abilities if you talk and you say things

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 5: So the moral of a story like this is to

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Speaker 5: just shut the fuck up when cops asked questions. Stick

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Speaker 5: to our twenty five words script. Let's run through it

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Speaker 5: just one time really quick, with the COVID nineteen twist,

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Speaker 5: Big brother, Yeah, what do you say when the cops

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Speaker 5: first pull you over?

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Speaker 4: Why'd you pull me over? And when they start asking

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Speaker 4: you questions? Politely? I'm not discussing my day or evening,

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Speaker 4: sir ah ma'am.

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Speaker 5: And they keep asking and they start asking more questions

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Speaker 5: and getting your face.

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Speaker 4: Am I being detained? Or am I free to go?

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Speaker 4: And then he says, Hey, there's a stay at home order?

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Speaker 4: Why are you out? I'm going to go get my cannabis,

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Speaker 4: which has been deemed essential.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're probably gonna go get some trannies too. You

792
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Speaker 5: getting some transvestites, You're picking it.

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Speaker 4: Up, being detained? Are my free to go? You know what,

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Speaker 4: You're being detained. Get out of the car, sir, I'm

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Speaker 4: evoking my Fifth Amendment rights. And then what do you do?

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Speaker 4: I shut the fuck up. I shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 4: That's it, and that that's the story of the day. Right.

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Speaker 3: I would just say, I'm not discussing, and I want

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Speaker 3: to tell everybody out there because Blue and I have

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00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: argued this to death with them, meaning does this work

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Speaker 3: for minorities like Blue and I are Latin and we

802
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: think of our black folks, And you know what, because

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00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: Blue and I have been harassed so many times when

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Speaker 3: thinking I don't know if it would work like that,

805
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: that Blue could a test firsthand. It has worked for him.

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Speaker 3: And then bottom line is what I say when we

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Speaker 3: talk it all out, no matter what, and I love

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Speaker 3: how Mark put it this way. If the cop is

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Speaker 3: gonna beat your ass is going to beat your ass,

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Speaker 3: no matter what, just shut the fuck up, follow the

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Speaker 3: script and we have a better chance of getting you

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Speaker 3: out of it and helping you sue them and win

813
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Speaker 3: everything back for you. So it's not a guarantee that

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna get harassed, not gonna get cuffed or

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Speaker 3: to jail, or arrested.

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Speaker 4: Or beat up. Right, it's not about it's the best opportunity.

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Speaker 3: To get everything taken away from the police officer that

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Speaker 3: does do that to you. So I just want to

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Speaker 3: be clear on that.

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Speaker 4: So one other more, one other moral.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to point out because you heard I smoked

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Speaker 5: two hours ago. I smoked that and we just said,

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Speaker 5: don't lie. And a very common response for people who

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Speaker 5: are drinking.

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Speaker 4: I had one drink, I had two drinks. And then

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Speaker 4: a thing applies admitting you're drinking and driving.

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Speaker 5: Never tell the cops what, when, where you smoke, how

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Speaker 5: much you had to drink? Nothing, don't lie. Stick to

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Speaker 5: those twenty five words. We just went over because with

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Speaker 5: this lady, that's how cannabis goes. I'm Mark Washerman, little

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Speaker 5: brother of the Pop Brothers at Law.

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Speaker 2: Well there it is, guys. It is Cannabis Talk one

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Speaker 2: on one. Remember this. If no one else loves you,

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Speaker 2: we do peace.

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