1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: M Hi. Everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined today by a special guest, 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: the newest member of our Packers digital team, John Coon 4 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: is here to recap the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft 5 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: with me. While West is out of town for a 6 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: couple of days. He'll be back on our next show. 7 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: But John, we survived the three day frenzy of the 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, hopefully got a day of rest on Sunday, 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: and we're back. Anything from this eight player class for 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: the Packers that stands out to you as kind of 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: the the the over overwhelming trade or trend as far 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: as these players that Brian Gains brought in, I think 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: the entire draft class as a whole. You could use 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: the theme big guys that I mean, it's it's truly amazing. 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: You can just run down the list of each guy there. 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Forty time is exceptional, their explosion is exceptional, and they're big, 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: they are taught, they are long, they can run. The 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: linebacker Tye Summers, wow, I mean I had to do 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: a little research of him after the draft, but he 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: is four or five one with twenty seven reps on 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: the bench press. He's a stat sideline to sideline speed 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: with some pops, So I mean top to bottom, they 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: are some explosive uh some players. Yeah, a lot of 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: athletic traits certainly that that applied to this class. I 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: want to go through. We'll just go through in chronological 26 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: order here, Day one, Day two, Day three, and what 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: Brian Gudacunsen his personnel staff did here. You look at 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: day one, John, and I tell you if anything speaks 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: to the mantra of best player available drafting, it was 30 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: this day one for the Packers because two edge rushers 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: and a safety were end in free agency. And then 32 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: on Day one, with two first round picks, Gudacon's drafted 33 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: an edge rusher in a safe exactly. He had players 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: he really liked as he thought the best players in 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: those spots. Obviously made a trade up for Darnell Savage, 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: the safety from Maryland at twenty one. But these are 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: these are two guys who are definitely going to have 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: an opportunity to step in and perform early and often 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: for Mike Petton's defense. Yeah, and I don't think there's 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: a real secret behind what they're trying to do here. 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: When you look at Mike Patton's defense. You can think 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: of one word savage, A bunch of guys with relentless 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: attack towards the ball. And that's what they're building here. Uh. 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: When you sign three out of four free agents in 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: the off season to your defense, and then five out 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: of eight draft picks again go to your defense, that's 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: showing a dedication and one that we're getting guys who 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: are gonna come downhill at you play after play after play, 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: and you see that. You see that with Gary, they 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: have the edges covered with the Smiths, which, by the way, 51 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: how easy is it to say just the Smith's in 52 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: referring to the edge, Like we don't have to worry 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: about remembering three different we could just say And then 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: you add Gary and and you have three guys here 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: that that are all kinds of versatile, can jump inside, 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: can jump outside. Third down is going to be an 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: incredible down to watch this defense. And I think also 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: you go to the middle, the interior defensive line, and 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: that was probably the most solid part of our roster. 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: When you look at Tyler Lancaster, Mike Daniels, Ma, Trevius Adams, 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, and then you you're throw in the mix 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: that Gary can do that too, and King's Lee Kiki 63 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: later in the draft. I mean all kinds of options 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: at the defensive line front. Yeah, you said it with 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: the word versatility, because it looks like what's being built 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: here with this defensive front. And you also said it 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: on third down, it's about mixing and matching different packages, 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: different alignments. You know, you could see Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith. 69 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: They on a third down, they might be on the edge, 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: they might be on the interior. Rashaan Are he gives 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: you those same options, they'll be What I see developing 72 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: here on the defensive front is on a week to 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: week a game plan to game plan basis, Mike Patton 74 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: looking for specific matchups on certain downs. He wants this 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: guy against that blocker to get after the quarterback. And 76 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: they're trying to build this defensive front to give him 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: as many options as possible in that game planning sense. 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: And when you used to watch the old Baltimore Ravens 79 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: or the old Pittsburgh Steelers, they used to run this 80 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: defense that was really difficult for people to pick it up. 81 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: The forty Niners ran it to a certain extent, later 82 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: on too, and we would just give it the name 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: Summer defense because some guys are here and some guys 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: are there, and they're all just standing up on the 85 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: prout ready to pounce on the offense when they snapped 86 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the ball. I see all kinds of options for the 87 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: defense to go in this direction this year. Mike Petton 88 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: is gonna have a grand old time standing at the 89 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: board right next is and knows finding ways for guys 90 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: to come and and an attack. But uh, but I 91 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: also think that second pick in the first round with 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: Darnell Savage also adds quite a bit of versatility to 93 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: this defense because he's a guy who in center field. 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: He has an innate characteristic for being able to find 95 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: the ball hunted down, play that center field and hold 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 1: the middle of the field down. But what he's also 97 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: good at doing, and we've seen this at Maryland, he 98 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: drops down, he can cover the slot, and he can 99 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: come in the box and fit on runs. That's a 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: huge asset to have on the back end, to be 101 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: that versatile play all three of those different angles that 102 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: safety sometimes find niches for now he can do all three. Yeah. 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Well with certainly with Savage, this was a guy that 104 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: that Brian Goudacuns targeted and he really liked. He gave 105 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: up two fourth round picks to the Seattle Seahawks in 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: a trade in order to move up from the thirty 107 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: spot up to twenty one to get the safety he 108 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: wanted on paper. This is the guy who has the 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: biggest opportunity in front of him in terms of potentially 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: being a full time starter right from day on, from 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: the day that he walks in here and uh, boy, 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: Rashawn Gary fot seventy seven pounds, you kind of scratch 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: your head at that. And then this guy Savage four 114 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: three six in the forty You know, I don't I 115 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: don't think the Packers have had this kind of speed 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: with a pure center field or safety since probably Nick 117 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: Collins was the guy back there. Wouldn't you agree? I 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: would agree, And that to me is what makes him 119 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: so special. That speed is why he can drop down 120 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: and cover the slot and uh and make plays on 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: the ball. Impress man. But let's sit him out in 122 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: center field and he could cover all fifty three yards 123 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: from sideline to side. Right, It's gonna it's gonna be 124 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: an incredible thing to watch this defense and how it 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: grows in year two. Yeah, all right, Well, before we 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: move on to day two, a little bit of sponsor 127 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: business here, John, the Green Bay Packers get ready for 128 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: game day with the powerful noise canceling technology of Bo's 129 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: Quiet Comfort thirty five headphones. To learn more at www 130 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: dot bows dot com, slash Packers Bows the official headphones 131 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers, and at Homer. 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Here in the draft, early on in the 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: second round, there was kind of a run on offensive tackles. 141 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: The Packers were the twelfth pick up in the second round. 142 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: There were four offensive tackles that were taken before the 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Packers were on the clock, and the Packers did decide 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: to go offensive lineman. But but they went with an 145 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman Elton Jenkins from Mississippi State, a two 146 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: year starter at center his final two years in the SEC, 147 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: but a guy who started at pretty much every position 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: at some point on the offensive line. The Packers are 149 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: going to first look at as a guard potentially to 150 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: uh to compete for time there. Yeah, and when you look, 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: when you're six five and you have the arms as 152 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: long as his, you are not pegged in a spot. 153 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: You're not a center, a guard or a tackle, you 154 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: can play all five. And we saw that he did. 155 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: He did just that back in college. And and and 156 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: that versatility again, We're gonna go through every single guy. 157 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: That versatility again is what makes him so appealing. And 158 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: now I look at this offensive line and I think, wow, 159 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: we go across the front. We got David Bucktier, we 160 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: got Lane Taylor, we got Corey Linsley. Um, we got 161 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Billy Turner, we got Brian Bulaga. But we didn't even 162 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: mention yet Cole Madison coming back last year's fourth round pick. 163 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: And now you got out and Jakets. This line looks 164 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be stout. This line looks really really good. Now, 165 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to be excited about going in 166 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: running the zone run offense with this with these guys, 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: and they're all really good pass protectors. It's I mean, 168 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about what they did with the offensive 169 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: line and how that's gonna progress here moving forward. Yeah, 170 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: and Corey Linsley is a guy who's played every snap 171 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: at center for the last two years. But if he 172 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: were to need a backup, the Packers haven't really had 173 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: a pure experienced center as a as a potential backup 174 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: to Lindsley. So if Jenkins is not in that starting 175 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: lineup as a rookie, certainly it looks like he could 176 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: be a backup obviously at multiple spots down on the interior. 177 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: And people don't understand how difficult it is to actually 178 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: field the roster on game day, and with his versatility 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: the ability. I mean, normally on game day you only 180 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: dress seven maybe eight lineman, so that means you can't 181 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: even back up every single position. Sure if you get 182 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: three guys or god forbid, a fourth guy hurt your 183 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: line in tight ends or d lineman. I mean we've 184 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: seen that happen in the past. Yea. And to have 185 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: a guy who can literally go in and fill any 186 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: single spot that that that let you rest easy at 187 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: night as head coach Matt the floor knowing you have 188 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: that guy who is a plug in play guy. Yeah. 189 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: With the third round, then at pick number seventy five, 190 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: the Packers took a tight end j Sternberger out of 191 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Now, this is a guy he 192 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: started out at Kansas, things didn't work out there. He 193 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: went to a junior college, then gets an opportunity to 194 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: play at Texas A and M in the SEC and 195 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: as a one year player there seventeen point three yards 196 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: per catch and ten touchdowns in the Southeastern Conference. Those 197 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: are numbers that that jump out at you. Now with 198 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: only one really year as a full time starter as 199 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: a college player, there's a lot of development here to 200 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: go with Sternberger, but you can't ignore those numbers that confidence. No, 201 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Uh. He I'm so excited and and he 202 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: is probably the most out of all the draft picks 203 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: to one, I'm most excited about because there is so 204 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: much unknown and yet the ceiling is so high with 205 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: this guy. He just said, one year of Division one 206 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: football is really alwa played. But he had great numbers 207 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: in a great conference. That conference, by the Way had 208 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: forty nine guys drafted this weekend, which is I think 209 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: they said the highest. I think that was a record 210 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: for one and so what he was able to do 211 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: in that one year was quite exceptional. And and then 212 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: you go and you think, man, he gets to come 213 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: in and learn how to run routes behind Jimmy Graham, 214 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: and he gets to learn how to block with technique 215 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: from Mercedes Lewis. He has everything right at his fingertips 216 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: to become a great player. And in Matt Lafour's offense, 217 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the key is getting separation for the tight end. You 218 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: can run them on over routes, you can run them 219 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: on stick routes. There's all kinds of combinations that they run. 220 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: And this guy showed he's able to create separation at 221 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the highest level in Division one, and that's why he's here. Yeah, 222 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: And the biggest investment the Packers have made in the 223 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: draft in a tight end in five years, having used 224 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: a third round pick on Richard Rogers, so Um and Sternberger. 225 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: I think, in my opinion, West and I had talked 226 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: about this in shows leading up to the draft. If 227 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: you don't have those two Iowa tight ends, which was 228 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: very unusual to have those guys rated as high as 229 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: they were in both coming from the same school. These 230 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: other tight ends that were taken in the second, third, 231 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and fourth rounds would have potentially been much higher picks 232 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: in other years, so I find that interesting as well. 233 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: With Day three, Packers had four picks ended up sitting 234 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: and picking at all, all four spots for all the 235 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: trading that was going on, and I believe that was 236 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: another record in this draft overall, was the number of 237 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: trades that were executed. No trades from the Packers. Gouda 238 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Kuns ends up taking three defensive players, Kingsley Kiki, defensive 239 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: lineman from Texas A and m Kadar Holman, a cornerback 240 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: from Toledo and Ty Summers, inside linebacker from TCU. With Holman, 241 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: I tell you, I don't know what exactly your path 242 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: was to get to Shippensburg University, but what Holman had 243 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: to do just to get an opportunity to play in 244 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: college football, to to to get a chance at Toledo, 245 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: and then now for him to be drafted, it's quite 246 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: a story, it really is. And people forget to play 247 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: college football it's scholastic athlete. You still have the scholastic first, 248 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: and his struggles were trying to make sure his S 249 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: A T scores were good enough to get in. And 250 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: he grinded for a year until he got him at 251 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: a level where he could get in it. I mean, 252 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: now he has his college degree, he's working on a masters. 253 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: It's just the biggest three sixty story that you could imagine. 254 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: And then he gets drafted. And he not only gets drafted, 255 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: he gets drafted to the Green Bay Packers, where he 256 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: can come in, he can develop, he can flourish. The 257 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: guy's tall, he's six ft tall, he runs a four three. 258 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm all kinds of excited about a guy with those 259 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: measurables on the outside, and he's a three year starter. 260 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: You can't take anything away from a guy a three 261 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: year starter in Division one. You have it. You have toughness, 262 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: you have leadership, you have those in eight characteristics that 263 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: were gonna lead you to excel. Yeah, I mean it's 264 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: not at this point. It's not quite the you know, 265 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: bagging groceries and ending up in the Hall of Fame 266 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: like kurb Horner. But a guy who's unloading trucks for 267 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: Dunkin Donuts and then, uh, suddenly then becomes a sixth 268 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: round draft pick of the Green Baby's email in his 269 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: game film to college, somebody give me a chance and 270 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: he bring him in as a walk one and he 271 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: makes the team, and yeah, yeah, it's a it's an 272 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: incredible it's an incredible story. Can't wait to meet this 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: guy when when he arrives later this week. Um, you 274 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: talked about Kingsley Kiki earlier. He kind of falls into 275 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: that same versatile defensive lineman thing. And then with Ty 276 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Summers now an inside linebacker. But you know this is 277 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: this is a guy, another one with a lot of 278 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: the measurables, tested really well and strikes me as one 279 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: of these guys that if he can make the fifty three, 280 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: is one of these guys that you that you plug 281 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: in on special teams, on almost all those units and say, 282 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: use those athletic traits, go get it. Yeah. You know 283 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: the first thing with with Kingsley kick is I saw 284 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: two and and I saw or right. I thought this 285 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: guy's an interi your linement, he's an interior alignment. But 286 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: they said he played some defensive end and made a 287 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: transition in college, and but I still thought interiorlignement until 288 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: I went back and watched his forty at the combine. 289 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: He is an athlete. He is a speedster. I mean 290 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: he was trucking on the forty yard dash, and he's 291 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: he can show that versatility. He will be able to 292 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: do that with that type of speed. He'll be able 293 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: to bounce around at three or four different defensive line techniques. 294 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: And that again is a manage from Mike Petton. Yeah, 295 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: he made a transformation with his body because he started 296 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: out as a nose tackle at A and m then 297 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: drop somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty pounds. They move 298 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: him out to defensive end for his final year, and 299 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: he gets seven sacks in the SEC. That you know, 300 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: when you jump out and play that position for the 301 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: first time and you get seven sacks again in that 302 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: type of conference, that's a guy that looks like, you know, 303 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: it's it's an arrow that's pointing up and you don't 304 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: necessarily know how high it might go. Yeah, and and 305 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: and let's be let's face it, most starting tackles in 306 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: the SEC end up playing in the NFL at some 307 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: point in time. It's just that's how good that conference is. 308 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: And and again I just go back to his forty time, 309 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: the way he ran, I think he was a train 310 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: coming down. Yeah. Well, the the other pick we haven't 311 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: talked about yet, the one offensive selection that was made 312 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: on Day three in the sixth round. Dexter Williams of 313 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: running back from Notre Dame. Another interesting story in terms 314 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: of his mother and some illnesses that she's dealing with, 315 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: and she moved from Florida up to Notre Dame to 316 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: uh to be with him. A really close, obviously tight 317 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: knit family. He was dealing with a suspension, suspended for 318 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the first four games of last season. Then he comes 319 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: off that suspension. The first time he touches the ball, 320 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: he runs for like a forty five year old touchdown, 321 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: and then it was I think a week or two 322 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: later he breaks off a ninety seven yard touchdown, which 323 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: is the number two longest touchdown running Notre Dame's record books. Now, 324 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: this is a guy his forty time was in the 325 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: high four fives. But then you look at the film 326 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: and the big playability. This is a guy who runs 327 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: a wave. People does not correlate what Now. I love 328 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: running backs. I love running backs, and and the thing 329 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: that excites me about him is he is perfect for 330 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: this Matt Lafloor zone run game. He has a one 331 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: cut downhill and run away from people type back. Uh. 332 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: He's he's larger, but he's not the biggest guy, but 333 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: he's still fast enough that he can take off. He 334 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: had a ninety yard touchdown in college. And what really 335 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: excites me about him is the fact that when he 336 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: touches the ball, what he's able to do on the 337 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: second level make guys miss. It's not just one cut 338 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: into the traffic. Boom bang bang, we got five yards, 339 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: you got the last two. He's taking it to the house. 340 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: He's a home run hitter in this offense, where if 341 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: you think about it, going back to the days of 342 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: Mike Shaner, Mike Shanahan and Denver when they had trilled 343 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Davis one cut to the house. He was a late 344 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: round draft pick. I'm not making comparisons other than the 345 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: fact of the offenses, but it's pretty exciting to see. Yeah. 346 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Well with William the thing that's interesting now the one 347 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: year last season was his first opportunity as the as 348 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: the full time number one running back at Notre Dame. 349 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: He rushes as I said, he sat out the first 350 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: four games because of a suspension that was for undisclosed reasons. 351 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: It was a suspension imposed by the school. He gets 352 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: in the lineup, and over nine games he rushes for 353 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: nine yards and twelve touchdowns, I believe. So you wonder 354 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: if he had played all thirteen, you wonder what numbers 355 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: he would have put up. But the other thing that 356 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: jumped out at me, you look at the previous year 357 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: when he was in a part time role, he averaged 358 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: nine point two yards of carry. He only had thirty 359 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: or thirty six carries because he was a part time guy. 360 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: But every time he got the ball, he's getting a 361 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: first down. I mean, you can't ignore that kind of No, 362 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: you can't ignore that. And and his knock was a 363 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: little bit of off the field issues that he had. 364 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: But man, when you talked to him in his interview, 365 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: he seems like he's come full circle. He seems like 366 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: he's really focused. He's addressed these things in the past. 367 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: The fact that he's bringing his mom up here to 368 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: live with me. He calls her his guardian angel. I 369 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: just think his fantom. I mean, my mom did move 370 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: up here into I had kids. I wish I had 371 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: my mom taking care of me, making me dinners and 372 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm launching for me. But that's why I just think 373 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: it's so great. He seems so focused, he's got his 374 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: vision straight, and I see nothing but upside with him. 375 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we could talk about this draft class 376 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: probably all day long, but we're running out of time here, 377 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna call it a wrap on this edition 378 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. A big thanks to our newest member 379 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: of the Packers digital team, John Kon, for sitting in 380 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: and rapping with me about the draft. West will be 381 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: back for our next show, and until then, we'll see 382 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: you next time.