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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We have had a lot of fun so far this week,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to finish strong. I hope you all

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Speaker 1: have started your weekend, maybe even a little bit early,

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Speaker 1: and you are rolling in here for what is for

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Speaker 1: many of you going to be a graduation weekend. We've

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Speaker 1: got so many different people out there, high school and

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Speaker 1: college graduation season underway. We've got a loaded program for you.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you an idea of what we got

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Speaker 1: going on. At one o'clock, Justin Marino is going to

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Speaker 1: join this. Justin Marino is the attorney. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get into this story, and we've hinted at it a

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Speaker 1: couple of times this week. Crazy viral video of a

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Speaker 1: six month pregnant nurse trying to get a bike to

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Speaker 1: ride home after her shift at a hospital in the

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Speaker 1: New York City area, and she was accused of being racist.

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Speaker 1: She was attacked, just an incredibly graphic detail all over Twitter.

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Speaker 1: She's had to relocate so she and her husband are safe.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk with her attorney. He's coming in

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Speaker 1: studio at one o'clock. Will also be joined in the

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Speaker 1: second hour by Riley Gaines, who has been fighting out

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Speaker 1: for women's sports. And then in the third hour, Senator

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Speaker 1: Josh Holly of Missouri has a new book out. He's

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Speaker 1: going to hop in with us. In the final hour

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Speaker 1: of the week, all that scheduled to break down with you.

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Speaker 1: We've got news that Tim Scott, Senator from South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: has filed paperwork to officially become a candidate for president.

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Speaker 1: He is reportedly going to announce on Monday and began

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Speaker 1: his campaign for president, which means that to South Carolinians,

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Speaker 1: Nikki Haley also already in the race. And then there

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Speaker 1: are reports that Ron DeSantis is going to announce in

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Speaker 1: Miami on Wednesday, So we will give you all the

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Speaker 1: latest analysis there. With Ron DeSantis prepared to announce, there

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Speaker 1: is a monster, probably four or five thousand word attack

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Speaker 1: piece on Casey Santus, his wife. We will discuss that Fetterman,

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Speaker 1: more audio of Fetterman attempting to inject himself into the

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Speaker 1: body politic. We will discuss that Georgia and Arizona battleground states,

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Speaker 1: new polling out, what is it? Tell us? We will discuss.

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Speaker 1: And there is a lot of news out there surrounding

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Speaker 1: what has suddenly become a very controversial topic. And Buck,

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Speaker 1: if I had told you, if I had told you

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Speaker 1: Buck in twenty sixteen, that we were going to be

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Speaker 1: in a situation where fourteen and fifteen year old kids

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Speaker 1: were going to be having surgery to remove body parts

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Speaker 1: and change their gender, and that the idea that a

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Speaker 1: state should say, you know, we're not going to allow

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Speaker 1: that would somehow be a battleground issue. Would you have

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Speaker 1: believed that we were going to end up there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: in all honesty, I would not have ever believed, even

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen that a fourteen year old having for instance,

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Speaker 1: her breast removed, stopping that from occurring, or some of

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Speaker 1: these sterilization basically procedures. Yet that is where we are,

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Speaker 1: where left wingers in this country are up in arms

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Speaker 1: over the idea that we would say, hey, if you

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Speaker 1: to adulthood. Are you stunned that this is where we are?

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Speaker 2: You know, as a normal person just walking around day

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Speaker 2: to day, I can understand how somebody would say, how

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Speaker 2: did we get to this place? Couldn't have seen this coming.

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Speaker 2: But when you understand the nature and the inclination of

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Speaker 2: the left, and the way that they engage in in

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Speaker 2: relentless activism, and the way that they're willing to lie endlessly,

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Speaker 2: you see that from the very beginning, Clay, it was

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Speaker 2: always premised on a man can become a woman. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's always been this incoherence. All of the different you know, qualifications,

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Speaker 2: And so what the leftist realize is that the only

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Speaker 2: way this whole thing sticks together, the only way that

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Speaker 2: all the way, because otherwise there are limitations, right, otherwise

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Speaker 2: there are concerns. What I mean is if you don't

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Speaker 2: believe that you can transition your gender, then you don't

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Speaker 2: trying to think of before all these accommodations, usage of

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Speaker 2: otherwise you start to get into Well, if this is

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Speaker 2: of reality for everybody else? You may have seen this.

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Speaker 2: NBC News had parents file a police report after teacher

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Speaker 2: offers LGBTQ themed book to her middle schoolers. But when

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Speaker 2: you actually look at what NBC News is sharing on this,

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Speaker 2: when you actually look at what the book is, they're

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Speaker 2: what's in the book. And this reminds me of here

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Speaker 2: the reader context on Twitter. Here the incorrect book is

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Speaker 2: shown by NBC. The book in question is this book

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Speaker 2: is gay, which explains how to find sexual partners online

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Speaker 2: and contain sexually explicit pictures.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only way NBC News can make this argument about

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Speaker 2: now look at how terrible these parents are for stepping

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Speaker 2: lie about the book that the parents don't like because

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Speaker 2: no sane person thinks you should be teaching fourth graders

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Speaker 2: about where to find partners for any sexual proclivities online.

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Speaker 1: No same person can make that argument. Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I actually went and looked up this book, and

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Speaker 1: I would just encourage because there is this argument on

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Speaker 1: the left as you well know that these are books

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Speaker 1: just a discussion about what's appropriate at what age for

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Speaker 1: which is and has long been the province of parents.

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Speaker 1: And I just go back to movies. Every time. Every

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Speaker 1: there just a discussion about age appropriateness in the same

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Speaker 1: what's the first thing you're probably gonna look at when

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Speaker 1: If you've got a ten year old, probably not gonna

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Speaker 1: do that, So that is the appropriate respond I think.

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Speaker 1: But I want to play these buck because I will say,

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Speaker 1: they are encouraging young children to be uncomfortable in their

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Speaker 1: listen to Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, explain this bill

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Speaker 3: I'll be signing it, Harris. This is about protecting children.

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Speaker 3: Now remember this, and that is a person under the

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Speaker 3: age of eighteen, they don't have the mental capacity to

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Speaker 3: make a life change. Decision to lose their sex organs.

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Speaker 3: In the Senate of Texas, if you're under the age

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Speaker 3: sex organs. That's just outrageous. In Texas, we believe that

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy that this has to be said.

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Speaker 1: The same thing, by the way, also happening in Florida.

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Speaker 4: We also did a bill, which is sad that we're

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Speaker 4: ideological physicians. And we've had heartbreaking testimony from people that

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Speaker 4: We ban this administratively last year through our medical board.

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Speaker 4: So if a medical doctor did this, they lose the

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Speaker 4: had to do more. I mean, if you're taking off

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Speaker 2: This is the most obvious, the most common sense position

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Speaker 2: I think it's worth note in Clay that one of

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Speaker 2: They're running through these clinics. These clinics are going to

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Speaker 2: be funded by by the Left. It's very ideological. But

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Speaker 2: What happens when we get data on the percentage of

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Speaker 2: them who how else do you say?

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Speaker 2: Grow out of it? Which is going to be very

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Speaker 2: high mark my words. You know how You know this

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Speaker 2: because you look at the practice of psychiatry before it

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Speaker 2: The most left wing of all of the medical specialties.

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Speaker 2: Is psychiatry by far. Before psychiatrists were just all, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing their their best to destroy civilization in the name

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Speaker 2: what's the harm If it's so important, what's the harmon?

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Speaker 1: The harm?

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Speaker 2: And waiting, Clay is what you have to You have

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Speaker 2: to live, you know, not the way that you think

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Speaker 2: an adult. Ever, they have open gashes folks that never heal,

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Speaker 2: and you're supposed to pretend that the gash is female genitalia.

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Speaker 2: This is the definition of monstrous.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really is. Buck And there was a

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Speaker 1: and I saw the Wall Street Journal build on it.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Monday or Tuesday's Journal. They wrote

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Speaker 1: all of the laws out about tattoos. And you know,

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Speaker 1: giving kids under eighteen in some states is a felony

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Speaker 1: a tattoo, literally giving them a tattoo, And the whole

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Speaker 2: Sanity in an Insane world, the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: yesterday I talked to you about this story where Adidas

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Speaker 1: Riley, thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Of course, thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 2: So what's going on with a global sportswear company putting

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Speaker 5: I see this and of course let's take it back.

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Speaker 5: We just saw Nike do this right with their women's

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Speaker 5: and the reaction was an uproar. Women across the aisle,

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Speaker 5: it's demeaning. It's belittling to what womanhood and what being

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Speaker 1: Riley, First of all, I saw you yesterday or a

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Speaker 1: These people are making millions of dollars And there's almost

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Speaker 5: And I actually like how you said it. It's the

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Speaker 5: ultimate form of misogyny. It's the ultimate form of man's pointing.

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Speaker 5: You're a man telling a woman what feminism is and

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Speaker 5: You don't see women going into men's sports. You don't

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Speaker 5: That's not happening. No, we're seeing men dress up as

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Speaker 5: It's a lot bigger then that. Of course, look at

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Speaker 5: what's happening in prisons. You don't see women identifying as

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Speaker 5: I'm actually right here in Green Hills, Clay, I know

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Speaker 2: Where do you think it's going next? Rod we're speaking

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Speaker 5: You know, I hate to say it, but I do

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Speaker 5: I mean, we can't even define the word woman. Part

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Speaker 5: to answer your question, I think it gets worse before

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Speaker 5: it gets better. But ultimately I see this getting better.

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Speaker 5: It has to. I don't understand how this lunacy, this

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Speaker 1: Riley. I think you're super brave. Obviously people have seen

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Speaker 1: what happened to you, I believe is San Francisco State

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Speaker 1: you actually get more positivity though, when you're out and about.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious on that, But also I think the story

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Speaker 1: You have said and you can explain to our audience.

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Speaker 1: If Leah Thomas, that is a man doesn't decide to

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Speaker 1: What would you be doing in your life right now?

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Speaker 5: My intention, my plan. I graduated from school with my

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Speaker 5: I think it's crazy and it shows the true state

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Katie Porter, who's taken shots at you. She's

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Speaker 5: What happened, Yeah, I kind of backstory. What she said

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Speaker 5: actually just wanted to respectfully ask her what she disagreed

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Speaker 5: she of course turned and ran the other way. I said, hello,

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Speaker 5: representive porter, my name is Riley Gaines, to which I

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Speaker 5: know you know that, but I.

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Speaker 2: That you could catch her if you wanted to. I'm

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Speaker 2: just putting that out there.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I very easily could. I'm just saying, and now

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Speaker 5: I'm not a fast runner, if if that tells you anything.

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Speaker 5: But she turned and walked the other way. As I'm

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Speaker 5: telling her, you know, this isn't about clicks. I'm like

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Speaker 5: to say, that is completely disingenuous and as a woman,

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Speaker 5: it's heartbreaking to have another woman attack you for trying

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Riley Gains for being with us. Follow

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Speaker 2: Riley on Twitter and she's doing stuff for the Independent

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Speaker 2: Women's Forum and Riley, next time we're going to go

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Speaker 2: We'll promote it here on the show and make sure

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Speaker 2: stands so the lunatics can surround the building.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you guys are who I'm calling for security, So

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Speaker 5: you got it.

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Speaker 2: But Clay and I know some guys. We know a

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Speaker 2: But we'll we'll direct them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, Riley, Just to be fair, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that you want to go radio guys as

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Speaker 2: We got friends who are like seals and Delta and stuff.

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Speaker 2: We'll ask them to come to security. But thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Riley. Great to have you on.

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Speaker 5: Of course, thank you guys, Clay.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't it that she's even in this position?

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Speaker 1: Get to know the guys outside the issues. Sunday Hanged

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the second hour of the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 2: Buck Suxton Show. A video that has gone megaviral over

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Speaker 2: forty million views online and counting of a young woman.

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Speaker 2: She has been named Sarah Comery.

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Speaker 1: Is her name?

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Speaker 2: Who is accused was accused, I should say, we can

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Speaker 2: clear all this up today of taking a city bike

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Speaker 2: from a young black man. The black man in this

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Speaker 2: case claimed that he paid. So just you understand, this

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Speaker 2: is right outside of the hospital in New York City.

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Speaker 2: This is a little what earlier. This was on May twelfth,

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Speaker 2: so about a week ago, and it's right outside of

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Speaker 2: her hospital in New York City. She is six months pregnant.

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Speaker 2: She had worked a fourteen hour shift at the hospital.

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Speaker 2: We now know also that she was somebody who worked

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Speaker 2: in the hospital throughout COVID. Remember we used to you know,

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Speaker 2: clap our hands, the pots and pans for the first

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Speaker 2: responders and all that in New York I remember I

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Speaker 2: was there. So she's trying to get home and she

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Speaker 2: gets to her city bike, which are these bikes for

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Speaker 2: those of you who don't know that you can rent.

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Speaker 2: You put in a credit card and you're in some

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Speaker 2: sort of a program. And there's these docking stations, and

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Speaker 2: a young black man, in fact, I believe a number

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Speaker 2: of young black men surround her and actually place hands

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Speaker 2: on the bike, pushed the bike into the dock. Again,

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Speaker 2: claim that she is taking one of that effectively one

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Speaker 2: of the men have rented this bike that she is

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Speaker 2: taking a bike that they rented. Here is we have

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Speaker 2: the audio of it. Here is some of what this

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Speaker 2: exchange sounded like, playing.

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Speaker 5: I'm not.

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Speaker 6: I do stop, you stop.

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Speaker 2: So you get the idea this this woman, uh Sarah

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Speaker 2: Comery being harassed. At one point one of the one

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Speaker 2: of the black men in the video says, you're putting

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Speaker 2: your fetus on my hand, which I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what that is supposed to mean, but claiming that she's

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Speaker 2: initiating the contact. They were initiating contact. She felt like

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Speaker 2: she was in a difficult and uncomfortable situation. She wanted help.

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Speaker 2: And the interesting part of all this is guess who

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Speaker 2: the bike actually belonged to. Well, we have now somebody

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Speaker 2: who can answer some of these questions and more. In

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Speaker 2: studio in New York City is Justin Marino, Sarah Comery's lawyer,

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Speaker 2: justin Thank you for being with.

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Speaker 7: Us, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: So let's just get to the facts of this.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you please feel free to I

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Speaker 2: just know the media reports you're a lawyer on the case,

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Speaker 2: you're representing Sarah Comery, but we do know for a fact,

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Speaker 2: and you can add anything else you like in terms

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Speaker 2: of facts that Sarah did rent this bike and that

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Speaker 2: she had every right to take this bike.

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Speaker 7: That's one hundred percent correct. The only misstatement is it

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Speaker 7: was actually a twelve hour shift, not a fourteen hour shift,

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Speaker 7: which still is remarkable for a woman who's six months pregnant.

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Speaker 7: She's a physician's assistant, by the way, at Bellevue Hospital

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Speaker 7: in New York City, which has the most economically disadvantaged

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Speaker 7: population ever and so excuse me, one of the most

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Speaker 7: within the country. And so she literally saves lives with

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Speaker 7: her colleagues on a daily basis, work through COVID, and

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Speaker 7: has spent her whole life helping people. She could have

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Speaker 7: easily got a job on Park Avenue and another medical

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Speaker 7: capacity making more money, but she literally self is is

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Speaker 7: trying to help others, and so for her whole life

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Speaker 7: helping people, it is effectively ruined with a one minute video.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this to me is so fascinating, and we

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Speaker 1: got Justin Marino in studio here in New York City

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Speaker 1: with us. He's the attorney representing this woman who did

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong and has gone viral. As Buck mentioned, somewhere

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Speaker 1: around forty million views of this she was labeled as

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Speaker 1: a Karen as a racist. Benjamin Crump, who is a

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Speaker 1: professional racial agitator, tweeted out that she was in some

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Speaker 1: way engaging in racist behavior based on her interactions with

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Speaker 1: these young kids. They were the ones who took the video,

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Speaker 1: they edited it, I believe, and then shared it and

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Speaker 1: it has been distributed widely. What has happened? Because I

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Speaker 1: think this is a fear of many people out there.

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Speaker 1: It almost has a Nicholas Sandman association with it. Where

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Speaker 1: for those of you who remember the young high school

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Speaker 1: kid who was standing on the Lincoln Memorial steps did

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong, but they labeled him as a racist because

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Speaker 1: he was wearing a Maga hat. This is a six

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Speaker 1: month pregnant nurse. This video goes viral. What has happened

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Speaker 1: to her since this video has gone viral? How has

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Speaker 1: her life changed? And what is it like right now?

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Speaker 1: To your understanding, her.

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Speaker 7: Life is devastated. She quite literally isn't hiding. She's received

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Speaker 7: threats to her life and her husband's life. This is

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Speaker 7: the absolute worst thing that anyone can envision happening to anyone,

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Speaker 7: and it is. It's simply tragic, and it's quite literally

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Speaker 7: a result of the irresponsibility of the media.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask also what this status is with her employer.

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Speaker 2: Justin We were and by the way, were speaking to

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Speaker 2: Justin Marino, lawyer for Sarah Commery, the woman in the

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Speaker 2: ultra viral video being accused of a Karen, of being

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Speaker 2: a Karen and a racist. These are all rooted in

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Speaker 2: lies about what actually occurred. Justin her employer placed her

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Speaker 2: on leave and is investigating. What is there to investigate

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Speaker 2: at this point other than she didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 7: Initially they came out and their first reaction is to,

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Speaker 7: you know, look into it. And frankly, I don't blame

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Speaker 7: them for doing an investigation, and I would expect them

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Speaker 7: to do so. And as an employment lawyer, I think

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Speaker 7: it's perfectly acceptable. They're basically looking, they're they're trying to

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Speaker 7: presumably speak to other witnesses. We presented our case to

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Speaker 7: them on day two. They immediately put her on leave

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Speaker 7: on day one or the first business day, and you

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Speaker 7: know they're going to fulfill their their their role. But

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Speaker 7: part of me being here is so that you know

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Speaker 7: public perception is going to change, because now you know

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Speaker 7: the reality of what occurred. So then this employer is

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Speaker 7: going to be hopefully harassed by you know, the mob

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Speaker 7: saying you must fire her, and and hopefully they can

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Speaker 7: be compelled to make the right decision.

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Speaker 1: How do you unring the bell in a situation like

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Speaker 1: this when you have a false accusation, And to be fair,

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Speaker 1: there are lots of false accusations about public figures, but

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Speaker 1: they have the opportunities times to go out and defend themselves.

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Speaker 1: For instance, Trump can say, hey, this is fake news.

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Speaker 1: He can go out when you have a legitimately false

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Speaker 1: accusation made against what is to this time, and you

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Speaker 1: can correct me if I'm wrong. Someone who's not a

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Speaker 1: public figure, right, someone who's just a private individual working

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Speaker 1: in the hospital, is a nurse six months pregnant, living

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Speaker 1: her normal life. Suddenly she is branded as an awful,

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Speaker 1: heinous racist. How do you unring that bell? In your

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Speaker 1: experienced labor and employment lawyer, what can she have happen

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Speaker 1: in the future that in some way helps to provide

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Speaker 1: some form of normalcy in her life? How do you

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Speaker 1: get back to that.

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Speaker 7: I suppose we're hoping time heals all wounds, and knowledge

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Speaker 7: and evidence of these receipts will show that the underlying

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Speaker 7: chaos that cause this is actually completely false. The problem,

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Speaker 7: of course, is there are individuals, irrespective of what we

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Speaker 7: still going to have this anger and hate towards her.

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Speaker 7: And you know, there's crazy individuals that may follow her.

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Speaker 7: So this is a problem and ultimately it cannot be

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Speaker 2: Justin is there anything that Sarah wants the public to know,

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Speaker 2: either additional context or just something because clearly was this

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Speaker 2: was edited, released and framed in a way that was

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Speaker 2: dishonest and meant to defame her, meant to really really

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Speaker 2: harm her in the all the ways we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just wondering if there's anything that either transpired

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Speaker 2: right before, right after additional context that doesn't show up

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Speaker 2: in the video that she wants the public to know about.

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Speaker 7: Despite everything that happened to her, despite that a complete

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Speaker 7: wants everyone to know that we her and her lawyers

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Speaker 7: do not have any ill will towards these young men.

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Speaker 7: She legitimately wishes them the best because the fact is

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Speaker 7: is the hatred and the scrutiny that's been applied to her,

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Speaker 7: we don't want to apply to anyone else, including these

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Speaker 7: young men. And so despite everything she's gone through, you know,

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Speaker 7: she is so compassionate that literally she wishes these people

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Speaker 7: the best and she hopes that no repercussions will ever

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Speaker 7: occur to them because they're young men. You know, people

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Speaker 7: make mistakes. You know, that's fine that this We would

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Speaker 7: not be here today it had their skin color. Everyone

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Speaker 7: in that video been the same. Yeah, and it is

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Speaker 7: the media's fault for blowing it up.

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned Nicholas Sandman earlier, and we're talking to

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Speaker 1: Justin Marino Laborn, employment attorney for Sarah Commery, who is

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Speaker 1: a totally innocent nurse six months pregnant, who was accused

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Speaker 1: because of a viral video that over forty million people

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Speaker 1: have watched. Nicholas Sandman sued many different media organizations, individuals,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately those were settled because he was not a

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Speaker 1: public figure, right and there was a video that was

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Speaker 1: distributed many different news organizations piled on at the idea

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Speaker 1: is a high school kid who was doing nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: When the full context of the video came out, Pierre's

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Speaker 1: your client also done nothing wrong, one hundred percent innocent,

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Speaker 1: has been vilified, dragged through the mud. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: that you have because she's a private figure when this

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Speaker 1: video went public, do you believe that you have causes

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Speaker 1: of action against some of these individuals in media or

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Speaker 1: with large public profiles that have tried to attack her

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Speaker 1: as an awful racist, essentially defamed her and as you said,

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Speaker 1: made it very difficult for her to get back to

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Speaker 1: her normal life.

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Speaker 7: Without question, there is a reason in this country we

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Speaker 7: have a cause of action called defamation. Yes, it is

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Speaker 7: for this very purpose, and so you can't take someone

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Speaker 7: who has literally just she's a hero. She's saved people's

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Speaker 7: lives with her colleagues in the most economically disadvantaged hospital

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Speaker 7: potentially in the country, and with one fell swoop. You

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Speaker 7: call her a racist, you call her a thief, you

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Speaker 7: call her a white supremacist, you call her a Karen

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Speaker 7: all of those words, in my opinion, excuse me, according

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Speaker 7: to the law, and we'll prove that Karen is per

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Speaker 7: se defamatory. But every single part of it is outrageous

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Speaker 7: and we do plan to go after the media to

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Speaker 7: rectify this so that they don't do it again.

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Speaker 1: So what's the timeframe on when those lawsuits might be filed?

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Speaker 1: In your mind, to try to send a message, much

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Speaker 1: as Nicholas Sandman did himself.

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Speaker 7: Right now, our focus is her employer making sure she

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Speaker 7: still has her job, to her safety by making sure

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Speaker 7: the general public knows the truth that she is a hero.

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Speaker 7: After that, the statute limitations give us a year to

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Speaker 7: go after them. I would imagine we'll be filing lawsuits

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Speaker 7: well before then.

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Speaker 2: Justin Marino, appreciate you coming in to tell us about

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Speaker 2: Sarah Comery ant to really set the record straight. And

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Speaker 2: we'll continue to follow this case and hope that there's

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Speaker 2: some justice. And please give Sarah regards from us and

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Speaker 2: everybody listening that we wish her and her family well.

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Speaker 2: We're thinking about her and praying for them.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Next Tuesday morning is going to be really a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun. I hope a lot of you will join

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Speaker 2: ten am before the show starts. Here, join me for

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Speaker 2: an exclusive interview with an extraordinary market analyst who's got

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Speaker 2: an awesome name, Mason Sexton. That's right, it's my dad,

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Speaker 2: my father. He'll be telling us about the great Disruption

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three. Dad received worldwide attention for his

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Speaker 2: uncanny prediction of the nineteen eighty seven stock market crash,

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Speaker 2: and then went on to make many other incredibly accurate

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Speaker 2: nine financial crisis months in advance, he called the top

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Speaker 2: He also called the exact top of the market in

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Speaker 2: the bull market after stocks went nowhere for fourteen years. Now,

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Speaker 2: major prediction in thirty years, something big and about to

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Speaker 2: be set in motion over the next eight weeks one

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Speaker 2: and no more. Sign up online to join us. Go

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Speaker 2: to Disruption twenty twenty three dot com. That's Disruption twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Sexton, He's Clay Travis.

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Speaker 2: Together they're breathing sanity into an insane world.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We are joined now

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Speaker 1: by Missouri Senator Josh Holly, father of three. He's got

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Speaker 1: a new book, Manhood, The Masculine Virtues America needs. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure, Senator you look around and see

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Speaker 1: some of this ridiculous stuff. The Adidas has men wearing

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Speaker 1: women's bathing suits. We've got men winning women's championships. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody can argue that masculinity, in many ways

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Speaker 1: is under siege. So is femininity, So is the very

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Speaker 1: idea that there's a different in the sex, difference in

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Speaker 1: the sexes. How do we fix this?

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks for having me on. It's great to be

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Speaker 6: with you. You nailed it. It is. The left is

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Speaker 6: waging a war on the whole idea of gender. They're

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Speaker 6: telling men that they're inherently toxic. They're telling women that

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Speaker 6: they don't exist. You know, anybody can be a woman today.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it is crazy stuff. The way we fix it,

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Speaker 6: I think, is we first of all, insist that on

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Speaker 6: the reality of biology, that there are really biological men,

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Speaker 6: that's a real thing, and there really are biological women,

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Speaker 6: and those things are different. Number one. Number two, it's good.

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Speaker 6: It's good to be a man. It's good to be

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Speaker 6: a woman. And then I think for young men, we

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Speaker 6: need to send the message that hey, there are role

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Speaker 6: models out there of what a good strong man looks like.

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Speaker 6: We need strong men in America. We need men who

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Speaker 6: are going to take responsibility for their lives, for their families,

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Speaker 6: ultimately for their country, and we need to send that

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Speaker 6: message to young people, especially.

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Speaker 2: Senator Hollyot's back. Thanks for being with us. Want to

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Speaker 2: know you, Clayon. I talk about this a lot. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to hear your take on it, which is, why

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Speaker 2: does the left want to undermine masculinity so much? It's

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Speaker 2: very clear there's a concerted effort here. What's the motivation

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Speaker 2: behind that.

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Speaker 6: I think it's power, you know. I think that men

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Speaker 6: who are strong and independent are a threat to the

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Speaker 6: leftists and to the elitists who want to run the country.

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Speaker 6: You think about buck. Their message to men for the

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Speaker 6: last twenty thirty forty years, it's been, hey, go turn

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Speaker 6: on a screen, go entertain yourself, buy some stuff, be

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Speaker 6: an androgenoust consumer, but don't rock the boat. You know,

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Speaker 6: let us let the experts run the country. You just

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Speaker 6: sit there and do as you're told. I think men

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Speaker 6: who are independent who say not. Actually, I've got a job,

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Speaker 6: I'm economically independent, I provide for my family, I'm morally independent,

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Speaker 6: I've got my own political views. That's a threat to

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Speaker 6: the liberal elites, the so called experts running this country.

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Speaker 6: And that's exactly why we need men to stand up,

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Speaker 6: be stronger, to take responsibility. That's what liberty is. Liberty

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Speaker 6: is when we run our own lives, right. Liberty is

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Speaker 6: when we run our own government. So to reclaim the

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Speaker 6: promise of liberty in this country, preserve it, we need

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Speaker 6: men who are going to stand up, take responsibility, be

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Speaker 6: strong and independent.

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Speaker 1: You know, Buck and Eye talk a lot on this program.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain things that I see and

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Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to have predicted that this would ever occur.

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Speaker 1: Even even if you go back to like twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, even the idea that there wouldn't be and

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Speaker 1: I know you guys just voted on this, there wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a single Democrat in Congress, in the House or

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Speaker 1: the Senate that was willing to say, hey, men's sports

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Speaker 1: should be for men and women's sports should be for women.

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Speaker 1: Blows my mind. Did you ever think, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: grew up playing athletics. Like we said, you've got three

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Speaker 1: kids as well. You're in Missouri. I'm sure that most

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Speaker 1: of your constituents think this is wild too. Do you

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Speaker 1: ever think we'd see an entire political party unwilling to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we should separate men and women's sports.

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Speaker 6: No, No, I did not. I wouldn't have thought that

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Speaker 6: just three or four years ago. I mean, it is incredible,

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Speaker 6: this radical ideology that is so totally unhinged from reality.

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Speaker 6: And Clay, you know, you know, parents don't want this,

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Speaker 6: and that crosses political lines. At least, it doesn't mind

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Speaker 6: state Democrat parents, independent parents. They don't care if they

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Speaker 6: just want their kids number one, to be affirmed for

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Speaker 6: who they are, not that you know, if your boy,

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Speaker 6: you need to be a girl. If you're a girl,

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Speaker 6: you need to be a boy. Crazy. They want their

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Speaker 6: girls to actually be able to play sports and not

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Speaker 6: have men pushed into their same sports leagues or into

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Speaker 6: their same walker rooms. This is pretty basic stuff. And

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Speaker 6: I think the left has gotten so out of control here,

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Speaker 6: They've gotten so far afield that they've just completely lost

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Speaker 6: touch with reality. And that's why, you know, conservatives, this

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Speaker 6: is the time for conservatives to stand up and to

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Speaker 6: defend manhood, to defend womanhood, to say those things are real,

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Speaker 6: those things have value, and we should recover what healthy

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Speaker 6: role models for both of them look like.

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Speaker 2: Senator Holly with us now from Missouri. Senator, you're Democrat

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Speaker 2: senate colleagues on this gender issue? Do you think I mean,

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Speaker 2: without asking anyone specifically, but as a general matter, do

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Speaker 2: they believe the stuff the slogans they on TV about

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Speaker 2: how it's fine that, you know, men can actually be

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Speaker 2: women and they should compete. Or are they just so

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Speaker 2: afraid of the cult and their political power demands it

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Speaker 2: that they're willing to go along with it?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Are they true believers or are they just they don't

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Speaker 2: have a choice in their minds.

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Speaker 6: I think it's probably the second thing. And I say

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Speaker 6: it because I have respect for these people, and I

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Speaker 6: just can't believe they actually believe this stuff, you know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's that the lobby here, the

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Speaker 6: radical left lobby. Let's remember who the base of the

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Speaker 6: Democrat Party is now. It's people who fly around the

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Speaker 6: private jets and go to conferences at Davos like that's

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Speaker 6: their base. Those are the people with the power, the

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Speaker 6: radical activists who also tend to be very rich and

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Speaker 6: well connected, so I think they're very responsive to those people,

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Speaker 6: and those people are pushing this trans ideology, this no

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Speaker 6: gender ideology all the way. I mean, hook line and sinker.

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Speaker 6: I think the left bought it, so that to me

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Speaker 6: is what's driving this. But you know it is it's crazy.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's crazy talking. I think of the hearing

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Speaker 6: that I had some months back where we had called

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Speaker 6: by the Democrats, where we had an elite law professor

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Speaker 6: who wouldn't even say the word woman. You know, she

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Speaker 6: kept saying persons with birthing capacity, and it's like, you

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Speaker 6: mean woman. Right, Here's the point that we're at in

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Speaker 6: America with the left. They won't say men, they won't

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Speaker 6: say woman. And I think one of the reasons I

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Speaker 6: wrote the book is to cut across all of that,

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Speaker 6: all of that nonsense. Let's tell the truth. We need

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Speaker 6: good strong men. We need good strong women too, But

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Speaker 6: for men, this is really a call to step up,

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Speaker 6: to take responsibility and to go out there change your

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Speaker 6: own life first and then change your family, change this country.

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Speaker 1: The book is Manhood, the masculine virtues America needs. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I've got three boys, so I spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time thinking about this fifteen, twelve, and eight. And

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Speaker 1: obviously I see a lot of their friends around and

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Speaker 1: everything else, and one thing I hear from them, And

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Speaker 1: I'm curious if you're hearing this from your own kids

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Speaker 1: or if you're hearing this from constituents. A lot of

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Speaker 1: young you know, men, a lot of boys, they look

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Speaker 1: around and say, you know, we're being told that we

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Speaker 1: are toxic because we are boys. And like I'll hear

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Speaker 1: from my own kids, like there's a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: pro femininity still out there, the girl Power initiative and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of young boys growing into

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Speaker 1: men are really lost and they don't know how to

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Speaker 1: be comfortable in their own skin. I think this is

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Speaker 1: also happening with women because you look at high rates

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Speaker 1: of suicide and depression that exist out there. How do

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Speaker 1: we fix it? Because this is something that I think

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Speaker 1: is so important. There's a lot of lost souls in

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Speaker 1: the younger generation. I'm sure you see it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you're trying to address it in the book, But

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Speaker 1: do you feel it? Do you feel that when you're

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Speaker 1: around the country. Senator Holly that even for something like

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Speaker 1: when you and I would have grown up, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty years ago, this didn't exist. It really feels

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Speaker 1: like men are truly under assault in this.

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Speaker 6: Kind one hundred percent. And I think the message that

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Speaker 6: you just articulated is one hundred percent what men, especially

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Speaker 6: young men here, which is that if you're a man,

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Speaker 6: you're toxic. If you're a man, you make the world

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Speaker 6: a worse place just by being a man. And that

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Speaker 6: is incredibly disorienting to young men, you know, who naturally

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Speaker 6: come built in with a sense of adventure, a longing

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Speaker 6: to you know, go out and discover and push boundaries

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Speaker 6: and be aggressive like that. You know, that's just listen.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you've got you've got boys. I've got boys

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Speaker 6: like this is how boys are. And when they're told

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Speaker 6: from the time they're little, that's a problem. You're a problem.

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Speaker 6: You need to stop that. It is it profoundly disoriented

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Speaker 6: and disorienting to them. So how do we change that?

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Speaker 6: I think part of the answer is we try and

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Speaker 6: tell good stories, recover role models. This is what I

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Speaker 6: try to do with the book. I tell stories from

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Speaker 6: my own life, coaches, mentors who are significant to me

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Speaker 6: from American history, from the Bible, what does it look

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Speaker 6: like to be a good strong man? And I think

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Speaker 6: we can hold up those role models for young men

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Speaker 6: today and say, look here, this is what it looks like.

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Speaker 6: It's good to be a man. It's good to have ambition,

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Speaker 6: it's good to want to be strong. Channel that in

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Speaker 6: service to others, and then you've got the recipe to

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Speaker 6: really make a difference with your life.

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Speaker 2: The book is Manhood, the Masculine Virtues American Needs. Senator

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Speaker 2: Josh Holly, thanks so much for being with us.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of momentous life changing decisions going on

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Speaker 2: sure who the father is, but it doesn't matter. There

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Speaker 2: is nobody in my life who thinks I should have

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