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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Girls Talk,

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Speaker 1: Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, preferred dating partner of

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World

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Speaker 1: headquarters at the Star. Well, what is up, Cowboys Nation?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented

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Speaker 1: by Jigsaw, the preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We're coming live to you from the Ess WBC podcast

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Speaker 1: studio at the beautiful and yeah, very rainy Star at Frisco. Today.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by my two amazing co hosts, of course,

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Speaker 1: Christie Scales and Aisha Morrison. I'm Jess Navarrez. Ladies, I

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Speaker 1: wish we were talking victory Monday today, you know, coming

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Speaker 1: off of a loss to the Green Bay Packers of course,

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Speaker 1: thirty one twenty eight, the Cowboys fell short in an

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Speaker 1: overtime loss that almost felt equivalent to a playoff loss

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Speaker 1: really when you just look at how down everybody is

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Speaker 1: right now. But we're here to talk all things a

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, Dallas Cowboys. We're gonna break down the good,

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Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly. What needed work. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: want to jump right in with you, Christie, because you

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Speaker 1: were there at Lambeau Field. What was the atmosphere like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know, changing quarter to quarter? Maybe was

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Speaker 1: it more of a roller coaster of emotions? What did

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Speaker 1: you notice from the sidelines right off the bat? It

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Speaker 1: really wasn't until the middle of the fourth quarter that

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Speaker 1: it felt more Lambeau like when they played jump around

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Speaker 1: and roll out the barrel. And really there were a

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Speaker 1: lot more Cowboy fans than there normally are at Lambeau. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was a Cowboy takeover by any means,

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of the fans. I'm told

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Speaker 1: by locals there in Green Bay that after they had

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Speaker 1: lost to Detroit the week before and five in a

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Speaker 1: row for the Packers, that that spurred a lot more

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Speaker 1: season ticket holders to sell their tickets behind the visiting bench,

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Speaker 1: and so it was a really nice showing by the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys fan base. They were in the stadium early and

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Speaker 1: it got pretty loud, but in the fourth quarter finally

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Speaker 1: they had the Packers had stuff to cheer for, and

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Speaker 1: so it felt Lamba like they're near the end of

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Speaker 1: the game. But I just look at yesterday's loss as

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Speaker 1: wasted opportunity and just more evidence of this team is

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Speaker 1: not good enough to overcome self inflicted wounds. What are

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Speaker 1: the things that we talk about the most on Mondays?

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Speaker 1: We talk about turnover deferential and what happens after those turnovers,

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Speaker 1: the points off, you know, fourteen points in the first

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Speaker 1: half for the Packers off of Cowboys turnovers, and then

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Speaker 1: those penalties, particularly fourth quarter, and then overtime, shooting yourselves

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Speaker 1: in the foot when you're really driving in overtime and

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Speaker 1: maybe not even have to settle for a field goal,

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Speaker 1: but maybe taking it in and instead go forward on

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Speaker 1: fourth down, don't get the call, and then Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So yeah, it was just a very frustrating,

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Speaker 1: disappointing into the game. And I can tell you, ladies,

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Speaker 1: it was a very quiet ride home on the play

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Speaker 1: last night. On the team Charter would definitely imagine. So Christie,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of the conversation going into this

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Speaker 1: game was weather, and from what I could see when

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Speaker 1: I was checking the weather during the game, the fields

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Speaker 1: like temperature felt like twenty five degrees. I think the

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Speaker 1: actual temperature, the actual air temperature was in the thirties.

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Speaker 1: Do you think weather had any kind of impact in

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Speaker 1: this game, whether it be physically or mentally for these

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Speaker 1: players only in regards to how it affects the kicking game. Also,

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Speaker 1: that field is can be a bit slippery, and so

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Speaker 1: by the end of the pregame warmups, I've heard some

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Speaker 1: players expressing concern about it being slippery. It's a natural

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Speaker 1: grass field, but they Kentucky blue grass. It looked beautiful

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Speaker 1: when we first arrived, but then by the end of

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Speaker 1: the field. They had redone a few years ago, but

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Speaker 1: in that it wasn't so much cold. It's just that

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Speaker 1: But to your point, Christie, I wanted to when you

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Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like like it felt like the

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Speaker 1: you know, gave us an idea of what this team

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Speaker 1: was like. We always say, like week eight, week nine,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll definitely get down to that. But this

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Speaker 1: me personally, it really refocused what this team needs to

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you all is I have managed

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Speaker 1: place post Cowboys loss. I mean, let's be honest, not

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Speaker 1: I do you think it was simply just the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: And when you look at the run, like specifically what

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Speaker 1: teams have done attacking the run defense of the Cowboys, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: schematically they're doing things to put them in spots where

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Speaker 1: You know, doing their job. It's also tackling like as

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Speaker 1: they like, we've talked about it, and we've heard of

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Speaker 1: being accountable. Well, it's now to see it. It's now

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Speaker 1: time to see it on the field. Oh that's beautifully

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Speaker 1: said Christy. What is your take on that. Do you

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Speaker 1: think this was more of a blueprint game or you know,

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Speaker 1: just a series of events that led to the loss. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know Aaron Jones and the previous two games that

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, it's it's going to get more challenging

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Speaker 1: me the rushing yards every time. Yeah, Okay, because it

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Speaker 1: two different things. Absolutely, And taking a quick look at

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Speaker 1: these stats right now, the Cowboys had four hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: fifty nine were rushing yards. The Cowboys were averaging five

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Speaker 1: for me personally obviously, aside from the penalties it was disappointing,

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Speaker 1: struggling on those third downs there. But I think that again,

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Speaker 1: play calling in that situation. But again, that's just looking

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Speaker 1: back at things and hopefully they learned from it. Hindsight

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Speaker 1: is always twenty twenty. So I want to flip the

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Speaker 1: page a little bit too, because Christy you mentioned this earlier.

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Speaker 1: The picks the Dak Prescott through during this game, the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers capitalized on both of which scored and

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Speaker 1: that essentially kept them in the game. Dak actually talked

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Speaker 1: about this during his postgame press conference and visibly, of

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Speaker 1: course another frustrated person. When talking to media postgame, Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott said, at this point the is to stick together

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Speaker 1: and make the team better moving forward. Time to turn

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Speaker 1: the page. And what I really appreciated out of Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott in this postgame press conference was how open and

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Speaker 1: honest he was about we wanted this win for Mike.

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Speaker 1: This was a game that had high stakes. Obviously a

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Speaker 1: win in the in the division is important, but also

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Speaker 1: this was a game that I feel like these guys

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Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on themselves to win for

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Speaker 1: their coach because it was you know, Mike McCarthy's I

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Speaker 1: don't want to call it homecoming because obviously he's home

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Speaker 1: now and the star, but you know, his his return

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Speaker 1: into a place that has a lot of emotional ties

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Speaker 1: for him, and I can see why those players want

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Speaker 1: to ride for him so much. But I really, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dak just said, there's no other way to say it.

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Speaker 1: This sucks that we didn't get the win. But Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: of course, let's see, I had those stats pulled up.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at what Dak did yesterday during the game.

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Speaker 1: He had two hundred and sixty five yards, three touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: two interceptions four. Let's see, he was twenty six of

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Speaker 1: twenty seven excuse me, of forty sixty six. Say it again,

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Speaker 1: say forty six attempts, forty six attempts. So there we

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Speaker 1: get a lot. That is a lot, it's a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: And so again we go back to what Christie's point

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Speaker 1: was earlier of when Dak is being forced with or

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Speaker 1: any quarterback is being forced to throw the ball, that's

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Speaker 1: the that's the run game not being established. Which how

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Speaker 1: many times have we seen the same old dance with

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Speaker 1: the same old song of when the run game is

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Speaker 1: not established, you're put in this pinch of a position.

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Speaker 1: And you know, especially just in this kind of situation

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Speaker 1: in setting, definitely something to keep an eye on. But

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on Dak's play yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Christie and Aisha. Christie will start with you, how do

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Speaker 1: you think Dak looked in the grand scheme of things

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Speaker 1: and going forward? What is something you expect to see

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Speaker 1: from him? I have total faith in Dak moving forward,

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Speaker 1: but he did not have a good day yesterday. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about the two interceptions. That one

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Speaker 1: in the red zone was a killer. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: could have put a knife in Green Bay and you know,

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Speaker 1: didn't do it. But and there's arguments of, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: CD's got to cut that. You know, you can't let

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Speaker 1: the defender get in front of you. And then Dalton

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Speaker 1: Schultz on the one in the end zone. So but

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about some of the other passes where

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Speaker 1: he just he was not sharp yesterday, even on some

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Speaker 1: of the completions, you know, the smoke out to Michael Gallup.

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Speaker 1: Put it where the guy can catch it and keep

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Speaker 1: running instead of reaching back and reaching down to do it.

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Speaker 1: And that's one thing. Like with Aaron Rodgers, I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Christian Watson had a great game, a

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Speaker 1: real coming out party. But here's the thing. Those ball

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Speaker 1: the passes just hit him right and stride that one

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Speaker 1: to Sammy Watkins right in between the numerals, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean the back shoulder one. And so it's not

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Speaker 1: just completions, it's making it friendly. You talk about receiver

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Speaker 1: being quarterback friendly, Well, quarterbacks they can throw open their receivers,

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Speaker 1: but it's also exactly the placement of the past where

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Speaker 1: they can catch it and stride and keep running. And

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Speaker 1: so that's what you saw on those long touchdowns yesterday

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Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers, just the pinpoint precision. And Dak yesterday

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Speaker 1: he just he wasn't on. Now, he did have some

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Speaker 1: beautiful throws too, you know, so I can point to

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Speaker 1: a handful of those, but even early in the game,

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Speaker 1: it's just he just wasn't sharp. It didn't look like

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Speaker 1: I'm just again talking about from the field level. And

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Speaker 1: it's something we were talking about on the Cowboys radio broadcast,

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Speaker 1: Brad Sham and Babeloffenberg and I even Babe, you know,

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Speaker 1: his eight years as a quarterback in the NFL. He's saying, like, man,

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Speaker 1: it's that ball's doesn't seem to be coming out of

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Speaker 1: Dak's hand right today, you know, so, um, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just feel I'm disappointed for Dak and you you could

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Speaker 1: see and since the frustration and as you referred, it

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Speaker 1: was coming through when the postgame press conference as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was definitely a gradual thing because I felt like

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Speaker 1: even Aaron Rodgers it took him a couple of drives

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Speaker 1: to to get the field for the ball. It was

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Speaker 1: coming out of his hand hands weird too. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that has to do anything with the weather change,

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Speaker 1: but I will say that in regard to this offense,

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Speaker 1: slow starts have hurt them. They've hurt them multiple times,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately, this is one of the times where they

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Speaker 1: getting off to a slow start I think is what

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Speaker 1: put them in a place to where they had to

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Speaker 1: they started passing the ball more or whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be. Now, I think the second drive it was

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Speaker 1: a second. It was in the second a quarter, like

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Speaker 1: midway through the second quarter. They had that big drive

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Speaker 1: where they scored and CD had the dope catch and

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Speaker 1: he fought to the you know, end zone. They started

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Speaker 1: getting going from there. But there's just inconsistency what you

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Speaker 1: were saying. Yeah, and that's and that's what's up. No,

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Speaker 1: I was just I wanted to point out when they

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Speaker 1: started doing well like that. You mentioned the word earlier tempo,

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Speaker 1: when they went tempo, Yes, and and so you know,

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Speaker 1: did that earlier. I was mildly surprised that they didn't

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Speaker 1: go tempo earlier this first couple of drives, because what

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Speaker 1: happened was that first quarter they completely wasted good field position. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're scoring drives were the long ones

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Speaker 1: when they were backed up, you know. And and but

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Speaker 1: they didn't take advantage early or late some of the

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Speaker 1: good field position they have. But but it's to your point,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to reinforce what you said in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter. Tempo makes a big difference. Yeah, And it's

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Speaker 1: just um with this offense right now that the communication

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Speaker 1: is is sounds like it's a problem or it's obviously

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Speaker 1: it's led to to turnovers. It led to turnovers twice

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Speaker 1: where both the players are coming out speaking out. You know,

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Speaker 1: there was just miscommunication there. There was clearly miscommunication there.

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Speaker 1: They're also too on that the last play, the last

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Speaker 1: fourth down play, like you see that the offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: somebody didn't pick up somebody that would need to be

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Speaker 1: picked up there, and you had a free runner to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback there on that on the last game, you know,

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Speaker 1: the last play owned down. So I think that this

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Speaker 1: offense has to get with each other and communicate better because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, that's been it's starting to lead to turnovers.

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Speaker 1: And also I think that this offense is a tone offense.

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Speaker 1: And the way that they ran. I think they ran

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Speaker 1: the ball well in certain spots, but the way that

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Speaker 1: they ran the ball yesterday was not authoritative. It was

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Speaker 1: not let's dominate the line of scrimmage, go downhill and

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00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: physically where on these gentlemen. It was. It worked, It worked,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if Green Bay's defense was worn

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Speaker 1: down at the end of this game or anything like

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Speaker 1: that to break open the offense and for you to

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Speaker 1: get a feel or rhythm of the game. And I

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Speaker 1: think that was the difference. And a couple of things too.

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Speaker 1: To that point, when Mike McCarthy was talking about the

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Speaker 1: two interceptions, he said, it boils down to two things,

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Speaker 1: route adjustments and timing issues with the Cowboys offense, which

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Speaker 1: yet goes back to your point, miscommunications at its finest

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Speaker 1: and in this case cost them a game. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to down how the scoring worked in this game. So

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Speaker 1: of course, the first quarter zero zero. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the first the second fourteen fourteen, it looked like

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Speaker 1: for both of the teams, both the Packers and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the third quarter Packers didn't score anything, so

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Speaker 1: this has been another topic of conversation. The Cowboys had

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Speaker 1: that fourteen point lead in the third quarter that they

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Speaker 1: just could not hang on to because, of course, in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of the Packers scoring fourteen, Cowboys scoring nothing,

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Speaker 1: which led to the demise, the thirty one eighteen thirty

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Speaker 1: one twenty eight loss. And you know what's interesting too,

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Speaker 1: is we talk about the one two punch of Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott every week on this podcast, almost

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Speaker 1: every day at this point, do you think that having

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Speaker 1: Zeke in this game would have maybe impacted, like you said,

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Speaker 1: a should making more of a dominant stance with that

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Speaker 1: run than it did yesterday during the game, I think

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Speaker 1: that it starts with your offensive line. But I will

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Speaker 1: say they like a Canucks explaining it. I can't really

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Speaker 1: put my finger on it, but watching the game, there

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Speaker 1: were certain instances where I was like, dang it, where

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Speaker 1: Zekiel and it wasn't And then again it's not. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a knock too. It's just the fact that when

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Speaker 1: you see how hard Dylan was running at them, and

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Speaker 1: then Aaron Jones comes in there and he's slippery, but

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Speaker 1: he has some physicality. We've seen it multiple times. This

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Speaker 1: is kind of the Norman the NFL now is that

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Speaker 1: most teams have the one two punch. And even though

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Speaker 1: Malie Davis came in and did some good things, I

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Speaker 1: think Tony Pollard has physicality to him that the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage on both sides of the ball yesterday was

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Speaker 1: not physical enough to me. And I think that one

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Speaker 1: of the tone setters for that is Ezekiel Elliott. And

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Speaker 1: so I can't explain it, but I feel like a

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Speaker 1: little bit in some way, I was like, there are

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Speaker 1: multiple times yesterday I was like, Zeke would eclipped him,

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Speaker 1: Zeke would a toy up, he would have dipped the shoulder.

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Speaker 1: But that's maybe just being unfair for you. And I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of it too is this is the

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Speaker 1: case usually when we talk on this podcast about stats,

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Speaker 1: it's of course stats are important, but they don't always

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Speaker 1: tell the full story of what actually happened. So when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at these stats, Tony Pollard twenty two touches

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Speaker 1: on the ball. He had one hundred and fifteen rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: He averaged five point two yards a carry. Malik Davis

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Speaker 1: had five touches on the ball for thirty eight yards.

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Speaker 1: He averaged seven point six yards of carry. You usually

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Speaker 1: look at that when Zeke is healthy and in the game,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of opposite. It almost felt like Tony Pollard

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Speaker 1: took the Zeke role with this game and was trying

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Speaker 1: to wear down that defense as much as he possibly could.

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Speaker 1: But to me, I think giving Malik Davis maybe more

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Speaker 1: of those touches all goes back to the third down efficiency.

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Speaker 1: Give him the chance to touch the ball if you

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Speaker 1: had the opportunity to give him the ball more if

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Speaker 1: you weren't not efficient on the third down conversions. There

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Speaker 1: something too in this postgame packet that Christie had sent

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Speaker 1: to us so kindly always sends us these amazing things.

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Speaker 1: It said the Cowboys opening touch down drive in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter was seventeen plays long, and I know y'all

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Speaker 1: know which drive I'm talking about. It was beautiful, cohesive

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Speaker 1: football at its finest. The last time the Cowboys had

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Speaker 1: at least a seventeen play drive that ended in a

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Speaker 1: score was in twenty twenty against Arizona. That is a

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Speaker 1: long time ago, really when you look at it now,

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Speaker 1: when the Cowboys ran eighteen plays in a drive that

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Speaker 1: ended with a touchdown. So you have the chemistry, you

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00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: have all of the right ingredients when you're doing things

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Speaker 1: like this. But you look at those seventeen drives, what

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Speaker 1: were the Cowboys doing that just magically worked? They're running

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Speaker 1: the ball, well, they're also not shooting themselves in the foot.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So we say it every week, and

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Speaker 1: So let's get into that the Cowboys defense. Let me

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Speaker 1: the same things, the same kind of issues we've been

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Speaker 1: themselves in the foot. Tackling there you go, tackling, just tackling,

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Speaker 1: I just feel, well, I saw is different right now,

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Speaker 1: You have a lot of gentlemen on this defense that

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Speaker 1: Like there are instances, and they're instances in the game

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Speaker 1: twenty two. They all move at one step, and that's

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Speaker 1: how you know. But then there's times you see and

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Speaker 1: And I understand, I understand all of the other stuff

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Speaker 1: This Cowboys defense has to play more discipline, contain and

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Speaker 1: play better for each other as a collective. Great point there,

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Speaker 1: and Christie, I wanted to ask you as far as

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Speaker 1: Do you think that? I think there were a couple

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Speaker 1: But there were there were other times where they were

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Speaker 1: that was wide open there. But um, my concern moving

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Speaker 1: And we'll find out more from coach McCarthy later today,

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Speaker 1: Joseph was taken off gunner on punt coverage gunners the

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Speaker 1: all this energy on special teams. So you saw it

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Speaker 1: and that we talked about hidden yardage. You know that's

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Speaker 1: another eighty three from penalty. Like special teams was important

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Speaker 1: in this game too. Yeah, yeah, And I just want

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Speaker 1: there you go. Well, and something too that I want

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Speaker 1: because that's not something we've seen from this defense in

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