Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services.
Speaker 1: We're here in the play MGM Studios, Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen,
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder Jamison, thanks for joining us. All right, so
Speaker 1: before we dive in here, Halloween recently passed. I just
Speaker 1: want to get your power rankings of candy bars. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: I figured it was topical Halloween's recent. I feel like
Speaker 1: before we get into the Thanksgiving spirit, you gotta get
Speaker 1: some some candy power rankings from Jamison here. Okay, I
Speaker 1: only eat like three candy bars anyway, all right, that's great,
Speaker 1: keep it short. Number one would have to be a
Speaker 1: baby Ruth Baby Ruth. Number two would be as Snickers,
Speaker 1: and number three would be a I'm enjoy. I don't
Speaker 1: if they count, but I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 1: had a baby Ruth. I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 1: had an Almond Joy Joy, my little mama Joy. You
Speaker 1: asked my lady, my girlfriend, like anytime she goes in
Speaker 1: the store, like you know, from getting some games. You
Speaker 1: want to go and get something. But how off it's
Speaker 1: a guy like you having candy can you can you
Speaker 1: do anything you want during the season because you don't
Speaker 1: you don't have much body fat, right, and like I,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's not yeah, I'm not eating it.
Speaker 1: I'm not eating a candy bar every day. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, every now and then, like I said,
Speaker 1: it may stop the store, pump gas whatever, or it's
Speaker 1: bit well not pump gas New Jersey because you'all don't
Speaker 1: do you like that? But that's cool. Did you know
Speaker 1: that when you first came here? No, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't actually, so I actually found out that. Um, it
Speaker 1: was like that I was. It was an off season.
Speaker 1: I was at duke training and uh, one of the
Speaker 1: trainers that work in the training room. Um, she lives,
Speaker 1: she's from New Jersey, lived in New Jersey for a
Speaker 1: long period of time, and um, she explained that to
Speaker 1: me because you know, in North Carolina we have just
Speaker 1: you know, convenience stores. You know, the gas you get out,
Speaker 1: pump your gas, you go in, you know, like every
Speaker 1: other state in the country. Yeah, basically, you know, get
Speaker 1: your drink, it's a candy bar. But up here, you know,
Speaker 1: like the first time I had gone, like I said,
Speaker 1: she had a weird you know, she let me know
Speaker 1: about it, and now it was weird like, first of all,
Speaker 1: I went there, you know, the guy came up to
Speaker 1: my window and he was like, yeah, what do you want?
Speaker 1: Like ninety three whatever? You know, So it was kind
Speaker 1: of weird but it's cool though, Like what's your favorite
Speaker 1: cheap food? Oh, my favorite seat food. I probably have
Speaker 1: to say, like just like some some chicken wings, like
Speaker 1: I love, I love wings stop. Back home, I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't found the wings stop out here because that
Speaker 1: sounds fourn to meion wings stop. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we have any upen New York, NA. What I mean Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like if you're if you're looking for chicken wings,
Speaker 1: you just gotta find the barbecue, right right. But dinosaur well,
Speaker 1: dinosaur barbecue. There's one in Syracuse, there's one in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: there's one in New York, Newark, there's one in Harlem.
Speaker 1: That's probably that might be dinosaur barbecue originate in Syracuse, right, yes,
Speaker 1: first one? Alright, well yeah I might have checked that out.
Speaker 1: But back home, wing stop. Man. So what has the
Speaker 1: transition been like for you? You grew up in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: you want to do? You played in Washington, which I
Speaker 1: consider somewhat northeast, but this is really northeast, right right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's been a little bit of
Speaker 1: a different, you know, transition, but I think that you know,
Speaker 1: I've adjusted well to it. Um, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: still trying to learn my way around this area. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking forward to to the winter. It was. It was,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times while I was there, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I we would I would miss you know,
Speaker 1: um and that winter storm would probably come in more
Speaker 1: so like late January, early February, so you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of guys would with would uh you know, we
Speaker 1: get out of town or be gone by then. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, so whether there's a significant difference, what else
Speaker 1: you see it changing people up here? Yeah for sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, um, you know a lot of people attitude,
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody though, it's not it's not as uh,
Speaker 1: you know, back home, you know, everybody's hey, how you doing,
Speaker 1: you know, and speaking and everything. But up here, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just more so you gotta just you know, going
Speaker 1: about your business. You know. The driving up here, they
Speaker 1: drive crazy. Are you a conservative driver? Now? I'm not
Speaker 1: a conservative driver, but I'm just like people driving bad, right,
Speaker 1: Like you know, every time I go to the hotel
Speaker 1: on Saturdays, like you know, on uh I go, I
Speaker 1: guess I go around like the back way on in
Speaker 1: the State eighty. I want to stay. I go in
Speaker 1: the State eighty and it's like man of speeding on
Speaker 1: those sixty five seventy And you know sometimes I kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's saving that might go Savni folk
Speaker 1: say five minutes cars just going. I'm like, man, ain't
Speaker 1: no way they're going sitty. They got going like eighty five. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that sounds Northeast to me. Yeah. And then I
Speaker 1: went out to the city a few times and now
Speaker 1: you hear at the horn the light just turned green. Home.
Speaker 1: I'm like, could I could from the game? Man, I
Speaker 1: feel I feel like a shame because I'm from Manhattan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now old I you know, it's I like it
Speaker 1: because like every time I go to the city is
Speaker 1: like I get a little bit excited because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not really used to being in a big city
Speaker 1: like that, or just being in this area in general.
Speaker 1: So have it taken the train to the city. Are
Speaker 1: you driving all the time? Well? Normally what I'm going? Yeah, uber,
Speaker 1: but um, you know, before the season started. There was
Speaker 1: times like I went out there on a Saturday with
Speaker 1: my family and stuff and I drove out there and um,
Speaker 1: you know, the driving whness bad, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: that time square area. It was you know, congested. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but um we went we and my family went on
Speaker 1: the event. We uh did a tour of the one
Speaker 1: World Trade Center and that we found the parking garage
Speaker 1: not you know, far from there, and it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1: So you know, I can I think I can manage
Speaker 1: geting around a little bit. I wanta pack forward. Was
Speaker 1: that for you going down to the World Trade Oh? Man?
Speaker 1: That was that was unique? That was uh, that was cool,
Speaker 1: you know to go see that. Um, you know, just
Speaker 1: to think back to when that happened. I remember I
Speaker 1: was in like the third or fourth grade and at
Speaker 1: the time, you know, I didn't really understand what really
Speaker 1: was going on, but just knowing you know, how how
Speaker 1: tragic and you know how south and how significant that
Speaker 1: day was in like US history, you know, and seeing
Speaker 1: the or is the ground zero at the water thing?
Speaker 1: So that was that was that was a cool experience.
Speaker 1: And um, you know that's that's stuff I like to do,
Speaker 1: you know, in my downtime when I have time, you know,
Speaker 1: just go out there and see different things. What's the
Speaker 1: biggest difference between let's say New York City and d C. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: for one, that's the buildings the south, the skyscrapers. D
Speaker 1: C they didn't really have. I guess that's the architecture.
Speaker 1: They don't have tall buildings, so you can't have them.
Speaker 1: Because of the monuments there, monuments and all kind of
Speaker 1: they got like a no flyes on in certain areas
Speaker 1: and stuff. Um, but I think, oh know, like you said,
Speaker 1: like you said, d C, it's a little bit you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of getting into like the Northeast. You can
Speaker 1: definitely feel that they still got a little feel of
Speaker 1: like southern a little bit, you know. Um, but d
Speaker 1: C was was unique. You know. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of things to do out there. It was always something
Speaker 1: to do. Not as much, I would say in New
Speaker 1: York obviously, but DC had had a lot of nice
Speaker 1: in the restaurants, going to see the mone Man smith
Speaker 1: Sony and things of that nature. It was always something
Speaker 1: to do. So DC is definitely, you know, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite cities. You talked about your family a little bit.
Speaker 1: How close are you guys talk about your parents and
Speaker 1: your and your brother. Of course it's just the two
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, just the two of us. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: the two of us. Um, you know my parents, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, they they you know, I get a lot
Speaker 1: of my mentality, a lot of my thinking from them. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, they raised me well, they taught me, you know,
Speaker 1: from right and wrong, and um, you know, they tried
Speaker 1: to always have me involved in something, um, you know,
Speaker 1: from a young age. Uh, just so I could uh
Speaker 1: you know, be successful or at least get exposure to
Speaker 1: two things that a lot of my friends excuse me,
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends and people I grew up with,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't necessarily getting that exposure. So um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, my family, man, we've always been close and
Speaker 1: uh you know. And then my little brother, and they
Speaker 1: tried to do the same with him, you know, try
Speaker 1: to expose him to things. It's a little different. It
Speaker 1: can be challenging at times, just because you know he
Speaker 1: uh you know, deals with disability and can't speak and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But they want to make uh, you know,
Speaker 1: his life very similar to how I grew up. So also,
Speaker 1: though about your brother, he loved sports and I saw this.
Speaker 1: I think he didn't. I think Duke did a video
Speaker 1: that I watched the other week. You the relationship between you,
Speaker 1: your parents, your brother, and you guys would go out,
Speaker 1: meaning you and your brother Jamorris would play hoops together
Speaker 1: and you do everything together even though there's an age difference.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, yeah, we'll go to the park, you know,
Speaker 1: just to get him at the house. You know, he
Speaker 1: hasn't been as active as I have been, you know
Speaker 1: obviously with sports and things like that, but you know,
Speaker 1: it just it was just things just to do. Let's
Speaker 1: get him out the house. I can get out the house.
Speaker 1: We go to the part right up the street, um
Speaker 1: from where you know our house was at, and we
Speaker 1: just go up to the super basketball or just go
Speaker 1: over there and pay on the playground, so said, or
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you know, just you know, just
Speaker 1: like any other sibling, you know, brother, brother, type of
Speaker 1: type activity. So um, like I said, you know, you
Speaker 1: always we always need my family. We've always tried to
Speaker 1: make um, you know, him feel just you know, like
Speaker 1: everything is as normal as possible. And he obviously lives
Speaker 1: with down syndrome. What does that mean in terms of
Speaker 1: your communication because you talked about it before. He can't speak,
Speaker 1: So how do you guys go about having that connection
Speaker 1: because everybody talks about Jamison says that that bond is
Speaker 1: truly unique. It's something that you can see you don't
Speaker 1: even have to see any verbal communication. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's you know, like like you said, he can't can't speak,
Speaker 1: but he's still smart, like he knows you know, right
Speaker 1: from wrong and stuff. He you know sometimes you know
Speaker 1: he's he's a teenager, you know he can well he's sixteen,
Speaker 1: he'd be seventeen in December, so uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: think sometimes Mrs tries to manipulate us, you know, in
Speaker 1: no way because he can you know, he can be
Speaker 1: a handful at times. But um, you know, but like
Speaker 1: I said, with the communication, you know, if he wants
Speaker 1: something here, he'd go and get it and uh you
Speaker 1: know he'd bring it to you. If it's a bag
Speaker 1: of chips, he'd get the chips, eat them, you know.
Speaker 1: So um, but it's just that verbal communication and um,
Speaker 1: you know we've tried to get into like the sign
Speaker 1: language and stuff like that. He knows some sign language,
Speaker 1: so that's another way that um, you know, my folks
Speaker 1: kind of communicate with him, just like on basic you know,
Speaker 1: basic sign language like eat stuff like that. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I've tried, like I said, just like some of the
Speaker 1: little basic things like I'm not really that advanced in it,
Speaker 1: but just some of the basic things like you know,
Speaker 1: eating stuff like that. You know, he'd tried to pick
Speaker 1: up on that from time to time. But if you'd
Speaker 1: be like Jamore, she wants some neat and here, you know, here,
Speaker 1: he would come with you or whatever. You know, he
Speaker 1: he knows. And then like times when we ride in
Speaker 1: the car uh, you know, North Carolina, we have bow
Speaker 1: Jangle stuff like that, so we may pass the bow
Speaker 1: Jangles and uh, he may want some neat and he
Speaker 1: may start fussing. You know, it's kind of start fussing
Speaker 1: a little bit um and that that's letting us know
Speaker 1: that he's hungry or he sees something that he wants.
Speaker 1: Now every time we don't stop, you know, because sometimes
Speaker 1: he just had something but he wants something else. But
Speaker 1: those the ways that we picked up on, um, you know,
Speaker 1: what he wants and things like that. So how frequent
Speaker 1: are those FaceTime conversations between you and your parents and
Speaker 1: your brother? Yeah, they pretty frequent, pretty frequent. Um, my
Speaker 1: mom's got a new phones, so her phone was messing
Speaker 1: up like two weeks ago. But they're pretty frequent though.
Speaker 1: You know, I always talk to my folks, talk to
Speaker 1: him like every day and uh you know some days,
Speaker 1: uh sometimes you may go to or three days not
Speaker 1: speak to him. And my mom black I ain't heard
Speaker 1: from it. You know, she always checking in on me. So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's freaking it's always weak and it's FaceTime or
Speaker 1: or over the phone. It can be FaceTime over the phone,
Speaker 1: you know, either or I'll talk to my dad. You know,
Speaker 1: my mom she may still be at work getting ready
Speaker 1: to get off whatever. My dad had caught me and uh,
Speaker 1: my dad he just recently retired. So what did he do?
Speaker 1: So he was he was a coach and an educator.
Speaker 1: He taught. He taught at my middle school. Um, so
Speaker 1: he taught for a long time. When the year he
Speaker 1: was like, uh yeah, he was a soch studies teacher
Speaker 1: and um a coach. So when I was coming through,
Speaker 1: he was my coach, he called coach the middle school
Speaker 1: basketball team. So he was my coaching middle school. How
Speaker 1: was he as a coach with with this something Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. You know, it was just it was a
Speaker 1: tougher for you than the rest of the kids. He
Speaker 1: went tough for me. It wasn't tough for me because
Speaker 1: he you know, he wasn't really like that, you know,
Speaker 1: I did something wrong, he let me know. But um,
Speaker 1: you know in middle school level, man, we had a
Speaker 1: really good team. Um and set down there, like like
Speaker 1: the way the rules set up, you had to be
Speaker 1: in seventh or eighth grade just doing the team. So
Speaker 1: both years were really good. Um on the lost three games. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, both years combined, so it wasn't really a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't really getting on me too much.
Speaker 1: We was winning, you know, Georgia the time. So when
Speaker 1: you were playing point, were you one of these new
Speaker 1: age guys as first score first or you were dishing first? Oh, No,
Speaker 1: I was more. I was more. I was more of
Speaker 1: a facilitator. Um, I could score, you know sometimes. That
Speaker 1: was one of the things that like my folks with
Speaker 1: my dad's always you know kind of till me on
Speaker 1: the side. Like I was like a very unselfish player,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I would be on service to a fault,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I was always trying to you know,
Speaker 1: get everybody involved making nice pass and stuff, um instead
Speaker 1: of scoring, you know, just an easy level or whatever.
Speaker 1: So but I could see you picking some people's pockets too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I just you know, play the passing lane.
Speaker 1: You know, I get a couple of steves, man, go
Speaker 1: down and get a couple of dunks. You know, but
Speaker 1: at what age could you dunk? So when I first,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you my first time I I dunk
Speaker 1: was my It was after my sophomore year, going into
Speaker 1: my junior year. That's summer I had gone to a
Speaker 1: five star basketball camp down in Virginia at Hampton Sydney University,
Speaker 1: a little small school, and um, me and my cousin
Speaker 1: we went to the camp and so like it was
Speaker 1: like the first day that we got there was like
Speaker 1: the check in day or whatever. And there was a
Speaker 1: couple of guys that already checked me into the camp
Speaker 1: that were there, and they was in the just shooting
Speaker 1: ball in the gym. So we just wanted to started
Speaker 1: shooting a little bit, started playing a look, you know
Speaker 1: one whatever it was, and so I got the ball
Speaker 1: one just one time I threw it up and it
Speaker 1: bounced went up and dunking, and my cousin was like, man,
Speaker 1: hold on you, that's crazy. And that was the first time.
Speaker 1: So that was my first time duncan like that was
Speaker 1: my first time. First the first time dunking in the
Speaker 1: game was my junior year. So the first time I
Speaker 1: dunk was going into my junior that summer. And then
Speaker 1: my junior year against Pe my high school, I stole
Speaker 1: stole the pass and uh, I went down and just
Speaker 1: dunked in. And I guess, you know, it's surprised a
Speaker 1: lot of the fans, you know, a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of people knew me in my area. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at your hands. You got big hands though now I
Speaker 1: ain't that big, but I like for me, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's a it's surprise. It's surprised a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, and it was like that ain't
Speaker 1: done it. So like the crowd go wild, Yeah, they went,
Speaker 1: can you pomit? I could? I could, yeah, but but
Speaker 1: like when I was dunk, when I was dunk though,
Speaker 1: I never palmed it though, like I just I would
Speaker 1: cover it like you would. Yeah. So um, so that
Speaker 1: was like the crazy thing about it, Like I could
Speaker 1: I could never just pomit in the game, like you know,
Speaker 1: I can palmit if I just you know, put my
Speaker 1: hand up or you know it's picking it up. But
Speaker 1: in the game I couldn't get you know, my hand
Speaker 1: when that big I weren't doing all that. You know,
Speaker 1: I went, did you ever take a tennis ball? That's
Speaker 1: what we used to do one where kids because we
Speaker 1: couldn't pomit, but we'd lower the rim a little bit
Speaker 1: and take the tennis ball and try to bring it down.
Speaker 1: But no, I never I never did that. I never
Speaker 1: did that. It was I know, like like ninth grade,
Speaker 1: I had got like these dn't had these shoes called
Speaker 1: sprinting shoes, and it was like you walk up, it's
Speaker 1: like on the front part of your shoes like a
Speaker 1: little plate. So it kind of forced you like to
Speaker 1: walk on your toes and it supposedly supposed to like
Speaker 1: you smith your calv muscles. So like me and my
Speaker 1: cousin were just fascinated with trying to dunk. So we
Speaker 1: got like Smith in his shoes and all kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, looking back, it was just
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, Asian matur got a little older.
Speaker 1: You know, that's really for me, that's all. It would like.
Speaker 1: I'm a tour got a little older, got a little
Speaker 1: more explosive. Um. I don't think the smithing shoes worked
Speaker 1: at all. You know, we don't tell them that because
Speaker 1: they're trying to make some money, right, but I really
Speaker 1: haven't seen them. Yeah, probably I think that was the
Speaker 1: thing doing that, you know, during that time. So you
Speaker 1: talked about your pops a little bit. The social studies
Speaker 1: teacher recently retired. He also played ball himself in college.
Speaker 1: But what about your mom? What did she do and
Speaker 1: how much of an influence did she have on you?
Speaker 1: She's had a huge influence something. She she works now
Speaker 1: for company cars Hillodonova. They like specialized in making like
Speaker 1: titanium for like airplanes and stuff like that, So she
Speaker 1: works like an accounting for them. It's a little it's
Speaker 1: a plant that's in my city and in my town.
Speaker 1: And um, she's been there. She's she's about to retire also,
Speaker 1: so um she's been there for a while. Um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: she's you know, she's the one that that that really
Speaker 1: you know, keeps me going. And you know, every day
Speaker 1: I always trying to tell me something where I need
Speaker 1: to get better at like, um, you know, coming through school,
Speaker 1: it was just always like she was always when I
Speaker 1: was pushing me to make sure that I was doing
Speaker 1: I need to do in the classroom and stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, even though a lot of times you want
Speaker 1: to kind of do what I need to do to
Speaker 1: get by, but she was like, no, you gotta, you know,
Speaker 1: go to extra step, you know, in stead of getting
Speaker 1: a instead of having a B, you know, get that
Speaker 1: A or you know, write whatever it may be. So so, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was the one that always wanted me to do
Speaker 1: the extra go to extra mile. So and are you
Speaker 1: more like your mother or your father? Oh? Man, I say,
Speaker 1: I think I'm more like my dad. Come my dad
Speaker 1: a little bit more laid back, a little bit more
Speaker 1: laid back. To my mom, she's very like folks, you know,
Speaker 1: very expressive, very like um. She likes to be in charge,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not really like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not really like that. But I ain't just gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: put myself out there and just start out being vocal
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I'm more like I'm more like my dad.
Speaker 1: I'm more like laid back sill. So, So why did
Speaker 1: choose sociology as your major Duke, and man, you got
Speaker 1: a minor in African American studies too. I believe in
Speaker 1: the marketing management and uh MMS certificate Marketing Management and
Speaker 1: he did that, the duke too well. So why we
Speaker 1: decided I and what do you think that? Do you
Speaker 1: have a thought processes? First, listen, you're gonna play for
Speaker 1: a long time. You're a successful guy out there on
Speaker 1: the field. But have you thought about post career? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have. I think about it. I think about all
Speaker 1: the time. But you know, I think about it now.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at the stage of my career
Speaker 1: where it's it's it's you know, a thought that I
Speaker 1: always do, UM that I always have. UM. At this point, man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really trying to get into I want to
Speaker 1: get into the real estate. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: Want something, you know done. I bought a few properties
Speaker 1: in my area Carolina, Yeah, down in North Carolina, just
Speaker 1: about my folks and in my house that they you know,
Speaker 1: currently moving into in the process of moving into, uh
Speaker 1: down in North Carolina as well. It's in monro Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's kind of yep, I grew up. It's kind of
Speaker 1: more so on the on the edge of like getting
Speaker 1: into like the county, like in the country, the country
Speaker 1: where we call it. Uh guess here it's like the suburb,
Speaker 1: but it's the country. Um uh you know back home.
Speaker 1: But um, like I said, I got a few rental
Speaker 1: properties that um, you know this upcoming all season that
Speaker 1: I want to kind of you know, get get going
Speaker 1: and uh, I gotta go and do some renovating stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So you know, I'm still trying to learn it,
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, just yesterday, UH was got Bryce
Speaker 1: with with with us they work with that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: they got a few programs at the NFL um p A.
Speaker 1: They offer like a few business things and in all season.
Speaker 1: Um I did. I did one of those two years.
Speaker 1: Three years ago when I was in Washington, I did
Speaker 1: an internship with the uh Marriott he ad quarters him.
Speaker 1: But there's the Maryland. So yeah, I've been thinking about
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I know this football stuff don't last, man.
Speaker 1: So I've been trying to you know, diving dead and
Speaker 1: certain things. See if I like it, um, you know
Speaker 1: what I can get into you know after after after football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you should talk also to Brandon Copeland. We had him
Speaker 1: on the podcast he's a big real estate guy as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I want to know about Duke because here's basketball.
Speaker 1: You love hoops. Duke is obviously one of the mecca's
Speaker 1: in the college football or college football college football. We
Speaker 1: can see him later. Okay, So they got my boy
Speaker 1: over there across the way. Pretty good. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you're tight with Quinn Cook, aren't you? Is not your
Speaker 1: guy queen? Pretty cool? Yeah, and you were telling us before,
Speaker 1: but I want to bring it back on the podcast.
Speaker 1: When you were recruited to do you played pick up
Speaker 1: just with one of the plumb Lea's and that team. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the team that was I want to say
Speaker 1: that was a team that was so the year before
Speaker 1: to what year? What year we're talking about, So we're
Speaker 1: talking about twenty so it was going into my senior
Speaker 1: year and I graduated twenty eleven, so it had to
Speaker 1: be like the summer of twenty team the summer of
Speaker 1: teen going into my senior year. Uh So, but the
Speaker 1: year before Duke had won the national championship. That's when
Speaker 1: they had Nolan Smith. She Knowlan Smith and them had
Speaker 1: just graduated. So I think that year before that, that's
Speaker 1: when they had won it and it was Kyrie. It
Speaker 1: was Kyrie was an incoming freshman. But anyway, making long
Speaker 1: story short, was on a recruiting visit there and it
Speaker 1: was during the summer. So me and my family just
Speaker 1: there and ran into Marshall Plumley and we got to
Speaker 1: talking with him. A mom initiated the conversation. She's the talker,
Speaker 1: and we end up, you know, long story, so we
Speaker 1: end up. You know, he asked me, I want to
Speaker 1: come play pick up ball with them? So I ended
Speaker 1: up going to playing pick up ball and it was
Speaker 1: you know, Kyrie, Andre Dawkins, Um, John Heirs thing, Uh,
Speaker 1: Tyler Thornton, Um, shoot all those guys man. So we
Speaker 1: end up playing pig ball and it was it was,
Speaker 1: you know, a great experience for me, you know, just
Speaker 1: go out there and play with those guys. Man. Like
Speaker 1: you said, I held my own. I held my own
Speaker 1: for so but it was cool though. It was cool.
Speaker 1: Dunk No, I didn't die. I didn't. I didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance, you know, you know, dunk man. But but
Speaker 1: but this is fascinating to me because obviously you're an
Speaker 1: elite athlete, so sometimes we see overlapping, uh, and you
Speaker 1: played a high school ball. So you you go to
Speaker 1: do you're the top receiver from a statistical standpoint of
Speaker 1: all time at Duke. But um, you know you overlapped
Speaker 1: with Kyrie Irving a few times and you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: there were multiple times we got like court, what did
Speaker 1: you think about him at that time? Did you know
Speaker 1: he was gonna be what he's becoming? Also, how do
Speaker 1: you like? Playing Cameron? Was cool? So we actually played
Speaker 1: pickup ball in the press facility, which but I've been
Speaker 1: a camera you know, plenty of times, um at the time.
Speaker 1: And it was crazy though I really didn't even know
Speaker 1: Kyrie like that, you know, because you know, he's a
Speaker 1: new Jersey guy. Whatever. It's like a lot of times
Speaker 1: I found like, you know, I was like a lot
Speaker 1: of guys from North Carolina area, but you know, I
Speaker 1: ain't got word of he like the number one croup
Speaker 1: you know whatever. So that was cool. That was cool
Speaker 1: playing with him, And um, I think that man as
Speaker 1: far as point guards with with with scorn ability and
Speaker 1: with handles, he's definitely the top top of my list. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, even back then playing against him just pick
Speaker 1: up ball. And then you know, obviously now when the
Speaker 1: top guards in the in the NBA. Uh So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's why I think about him, and uh it
Speaker 1: was cool. It was a great experience when you when
Speaker 1: you played with Plumbly and Kyrie and you're going into
Speaker 1: your senior year from high school, Like are you freaking
Speaker 1: out being like crap him about to play with the yea?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I remember, I was nervous. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was like, man, they just want that's
Speaker 1: a tempionship like I play, you know, high school ball.
Speaker 1: It's like a whole another level. So that was cool
Speaker 1: and I was I was. I was definitely a little nervous,
Speaker 1: but like I said, I didn't got to play with
Speaker 1: those guys and I, you know, score a couple of buckets.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you know, I play a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, but did you have your own Did you
Speaker 1: have your own shoes? One thing that I'm giving your clothes.
Speaker 1: But she was a very important. Man. If I can
Speaker 1: find a picture, my family had it. Man, Man Miles,
Speaker 1: he went back there. He got me, ain't on the shirt, shoes,
Speaker 1: shorts and everything. Because I was this on the V
Speaker 1: I had jeans and a college shirt. And then I
Speaker 1: was like I don't have anything like, Man, I can
Speaker 1: I take care of you? So your parents watching this?
Speaker 1: My parents was watching and everything. So what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find them pictures. I'm gonna find them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see them. You wanna find the pictures
Speaker 1: for y'all. What your pops say afterwards? Man, he say much,
Speaker 1: you know, and a matter of fact, I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell who pops to talk to authors uh
Speaker 1: Ow it was Brodakowski. The guy he was was that
Speaker 1: Mark cat Now it was a famous point for coach
Speaker 1: of course, and talk with him for a while after
Speaker 1: we had finished playing, and um, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my son, you're telling you my son, you know, could
Speaker 1: possibly be coming here on football scholarship. So it was
Speaker 1: just it was just a great experience. Man. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the caught here in second. But did you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity being such an established receiver there on
Speaker 1: the campus there and Durham, did you have any interaction
Speaker 1: with Coach k yourself? Oh, I've made him a couple
Speaker 1: of times after I graduated, So while I was there,
Speaker 1: I never had really, you know, any interaction with him.
Speaker 1: I mean one time, me and Queenn were just hanging
Speaker 1: out and Queen was on the phone with him, and uh,
Speaker 1: I didn't say nothing that you know, but other than that,
Speaker 1: it was after I graduated, my first time getting a
Speaker 1: chance to meet coach k. So I've met him a
Speaker 1: few times, you know, when I go back in the offseason. So, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: David cuck left. How did he get you two Duke?
Speaker 1: And what did he mean to your career? Not just
Speaker 1: there but now is you're sitting here a veteran of
Speaker 1: the National Football Lake Yeah, well, I mean he got
Speaker 1: me there. Uh. I just felt like Duke was the
Speaker 1: right place for me, excuse me at the time, and
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of crazy how how the
Speaker 1: recruiting process um kind of happened and how things kind
Speaker 1: of changed. Uh, you know at first, uh with Duke
Speaker 1: my first offer, so I was very thankful for that.
Speaker 1: And then Carolina came, and then like East Carolina came
Speaker 1: to a couple of schools and so State. Yeah, for um,
Speaker 1: I had pretty much out of North Carolina schools, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm had a couple of smaller D one double as
Speaker 1: schools and uh, initially, um, you know, I really didn't
Speaker 1: know you know, I was kind of leaning towards Carolina, dude,
Speaker 1: you know, ECUs just up in the air. But um,
Speaker 1: uh Carolina, they wanted me to come in and play
Speaker 1: defensive back. So like when I was going on recruiting
Speaker 1: visits there, I was meeting with the defensive coordinator and
Speaker 1: in the UH in the cornerback, and I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to play defense. I played
Speaker 1: defensive high school, you know, both sides, both sides of ball.
Speaker 1: But um, I really I really wasn't feeling you know, defense.
Speaker 1: You know, at the next level, I feel like I
Speaker 1: was better with the ball in my hand. And then um,
Speaker 1: East Carolina at the time, they had like the air
Speaker 1: raid offense with UH coach McNeil and m Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: was the offensive corner So um, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, East Carolina the really good But the only
Speaker 1: thing with like East Carolina. One of the reason why
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, two ago, there was you know,
Speaker 1: the conference that they played in that want of my
Speaker 1: family to come to the game. So they were like
Speaker 1: in uh, I don't want to say the room they
Speaker 1: were They're playing like Tulane and Tulsa. It's like a
Speaker 1: lot of the games. Now, yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is, but a lot of their games where you know,
Speaker 1: some of the games were probably used to be the
Speaker 1: Conference USA, so like you know, some of the games
Speaker 1: like that was for farther And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: A c C and Coach Cut they wanted to come
Speaker 1: and play offense the coach cause they just made me
Speaker 1: feel like it was a home atmosphere, like you know
Speaker 1: if they made me really feel like they bring me in,
Speaker 1: you know, not timming what I want to hear, but
Speaker 1: timm it was right. But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: made me feel like I'm a part, you know, a
Speaker 1: part of the program and everything. And then it was
Speaker 1: also the A C C. So you know, I thought
Speaker 1: about my family. Okay, if we're not playing that, dude,
Speaker 1: away game might be you un right down the road.
Speaker 1: My family can still come, or we ain't playing it, dude,
Speaker 1: we might play it wake forwards and when to say
Speaker 1: them my family can still come. So that's what really,
Speaker 1: you know, got me there. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: I said, Coach Cut, they made me feel like really
Speaker 1: welcome and stuff. So and then obviously you know camp
Speaker 1: pass up on the on the duke education you know, Um,
Speaker 1: that was the main thing. Um. So yeah, that's really
Speaker 1: how I got to do all right, So I want
Speaker 1: to bring things full circle here before we let you go.
Speaker 1: You do a lot of work in the community. You're
Speaker 1: talking about your family. You do a lot of work
Speaker 1: or kids with disabilities. So what have you done and
Speaker 1: what do you hope to do in the future. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we had to camp I don't know if
Speaker 1: I mentioned this before, but we had to camp down
Speaker 1: and then um in North Carolina that duke in all
Speaker 1: season for you know, kids with Downson John in that area,
Speaker 1: and then um, you know, just trying to you know,
Speaker 1: raise money and stuff like that. So next Tuesday, I
Speaker 1: want to say, not next to it, but the following tuesday,
Speaker 1: it'll be November to twelve, I'm having an event at
Speaker 1: the moles Moles and um, you know, we're just sign
Speaker 1: some all the graphs to be there from five to
Speaker 1: eight and uh, you know, it's just the proceeds when
Speaker 1: they come in is gonna go to um, you know,
Speaker 1: National Downson John UH Foundation and everything. So that's that's
Speaker 1: coming up. That would be November twelve, is the camping Duke.
Speaker 1: Is that the one that you worked with my friend
Speaker 1: in Syracuse, Michelle Sain. Yeah, yeah, that's her shout. What
Speaker 1: what should people know about families who have somebody with
Speaker 1: downs and what is out there that it's just a
Speaker 1: misperception that people think. Yeah, I mean I think, um,
Speaker 1: some of that people should know. Well, I know, for like,
Speaker 1: just speaking from experience, are some of the challenges you know, um,
Speaker 1: just the challenges day to day challenge Like you know,
Speaker 1: in my area, we don't really have a lot of
Speaker 1: resources for Jamar's or for my family. You know, if
Speaker 1: my family want to go out and do certain things,
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of resource and not
Speaker 1: a lot of places they can go where they have
Speaker 1: um you know, uh centers or something where they can teach,
Speaker 1: you know, on on on their level or help them
Speaker 1: you know, develop. So a lot of stuff my family, myself,
Speaker 1: we have to do on ourselves. So I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the things that for me personally, I want
Speaker 1: to get my brother and I know there's a lot
Speaker 1: of other famils out there in the same situation and
Speaker 1: get my brother exposed to you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: come together and you know, talk about the challenges family
Speaker 1: differ family, talk about the challenges and then try to
Speaker 1: come up with a solution or something we can help.
Speaker 1: You know, those families that they don't have those resources
Speaker 1: in those areas that you know, can help their family
Speaker 1: member with downs grow and develop. Um. That's the main
Speaker 1: thing that I that I think, Um is uh, you
Speaker 1: know on the day to day challenges that that I see,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta ask in your family's been incredible
Speaker 1: with that. It's uh, And I think and what you're
Speaker 1: doing on the what is it the November eleventh? You
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta shot, get out there, meet Jamison, getting
Speaker 1: photo taken with him and get something from most Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the proceedson I posted on my Instagram. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: it's out there. I'll just keep give the shot out
Speaker 1: on Instagram. What's the handle? Yeah? Oh man my Instagram
Speaker 1: j Underscore crowd. We gotta ask you man though, before
Speaker 1: you get out you're going back to Washington here soon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you just be looking for a victory, but
Speaker 1: what what what what goes through your mind? Uh? The
Speaker 1: opportunity to go back and play against the team that
Speaker 1: drafted you and you had a number of good seasons
Speaker 1: there before signing with jetson Freeny. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's definitely I'm looking forward to, you know, obviously looking
Speaker 1: forward to this game this week. You know. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to going to Washington as well, you know,
Speaker 1: playing against those guys, a lot of guys. I know,
Speaker 1: I have a really good relationship with, um, you know, Washington,
Speaker 1: and I just look at it, you know, uh as
Speaker 1: a as a as a blessing. You know, they gave
Speaker 1: me opportunity to get into this into this league, into
Speaker 1: this business. You know, they drafted me and um, you know,
Speaker 1: gave me up to get my foot in the door.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it. But I definitely look forward to
Speaker 1: playing November twelve, Mos floora Park, meet Jamison. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming five pm to eight pm, five to eight
Speaker 1: November twelve, Mo. We gotta have it back, yeah all right,
Speaker 1: yeah we gotta have a hoop segment. I enjoyed it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to you know, talk a little basketball. Yeah
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Speaker 1: joining us. Well, we'll have you back on for some
Speaker 1: blook talk alright, Yeah sounds good.