WEBVTT - Listen: Jamison Crowder (11/5) 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.840 Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.520 We're here in the play MGM Studios, Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.399 Jamison Crowder Jamison, thanks for joining us. All right, so 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.880 before we dive in here, Halloween recently passed. I just 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.560 want to get your power rankings of candy bars. Huh yeah, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.720 I figured it was topical Halloween's recent. I feel like 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.640 before we get into the Thanksgiving spirit, you gotta get 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.159 some some candy power rankings from Jamison here. Okay, I 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.040 only eat like three candy bars anyway, all right, that's great, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.159 keep it short. Number one would have to be a 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.560 baby Ruth Baby Ruth. Number two would be as Snickers, 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.959 and number three would be a I'm enjoy. I don't 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.800 if they count, but I don't know if I've ever 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:49.639 had a baby Ruth. I don't know if I've ever 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.559 had an Almond Joy Joy, my little mama Joy. You 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.000 asked my lady, my girlfriend, like anytime she goes in 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.800 the store, like you know, from getting some games. You 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.560 want to go and get something. But how off it's 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.520 a guy like you having candy can you can you 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.959 do anything you want during the season because you don't 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.120 you don't have much body fat, right, and like I, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:12.800 like I said, it's not yeah, I'm not eating it. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.960 I'm not eating a candy bar every day. You know, 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:16.520 it's just you know, every now and then, like I said, 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.920 it may stop the store, pump gas whatever, or it's 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.800 bit well not pump gas New Jersey because you'all don't 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.600 do you like that? But that's cool. Did you know 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.040 that when you first came here? No, I didn't. I 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.360 didn't actually, so I actually found out that. Um, it 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.400 was like that I was. It was an off season. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.039 I was at duke training and uh, one of the 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.559 trainers that work in the training room. Um, she lives, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.400 she's from New Jersey, lived in New Jersey for a 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.600 long period of time, and um, she explained that to 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.240 me because you know, in North Carolina we have just 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.440 you know, convenience stores. You know, the gas you get out, 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.480 pump your gas, you go in, you know, like every 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.280 other state in the country. Yeah, basically, you know, get 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.880 your drink, it's a candy bar. But up here, you know, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.800 like the first time I had gone, like I said, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.280 she had a weird you know, she let me know 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.200 about it, and now it was weird like, first of all, 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:02.600 I went there, you know, the guy came up to 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.360 my window and he was like, yeah, what do you want? 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.760 Like ninety three whatever? You know, So it was kind 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.280 of weird but it's cool though, Like what's your favorite 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:13.639 cheap food? Oh, my favorite seat food. I probably have 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.920 to say, like just like some some chicken wings, like 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.520 I love, I love wings stop. Back home, I haven't. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.320 I haven't found the wings stop out here because that 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.280 sounds fourn to meion wings stop. I don't know if 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:31.040 we have any upen New York, NA. What I mean Like, 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.919 I feel like if you're if you're looking for chicken wings, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.680 you just gotta find the barbecue, right right. But dinosaur well, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.120 dinosaur barbecue. There's one in Syracuse, there's one in Brooklyn, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.359 there's one in New York, Newark, there's one in Harlem. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:51.000 That's probably that might be dinosaur barbecue originate in Syracuse, right, yes, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.919 first one? Alright, well yeah I might have checked that out. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:58.440 But back home, wing stop. Man. So what has the 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.240 transition been like for you? You grew up in North Carolina, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:06.160 you want to do? You played in Washington, which I 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:12.200 consider somewhat northeast, but this is really northeast, right right, Yeah, yeah, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:13.799 I mean it's it's it's been a little bit of 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.920 a different, you know, transition, but I think that you know, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.280 I've adjusted well to it. Um, you know, it's just 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.200 still trying to learn my way around this area. I'm 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:27.560 not looking forward to to the winter. It was. It was, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.239 but a lot of times while I was there, Um, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.120 you know, I we would I would miss you know, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.160 um and that winter storm would probably come in more 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.840 so like late January, early February, so you know, a 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.200 lot of guys would with would uh you know, we 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.520 get out of town or be gone by then. But 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.480 but yeah, so whether there's a significant difference, what else 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:53.520 you see it changing people up here? Yeah for sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:57.520 I think, um, you know a lot of people attitude, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.000 you know, not everybody though, it's not it's not as uh, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.320 you know, back home, you know, everybody's hey, how you doing, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.200 you know, and speaking and everything. But up here, you know, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.160 it's just more so you gotta just you know, going 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.080 about your business. You know. The driving up here, they 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.040 drive crazy. Are you a conservative driver? Now? I'm not 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.760 a conservative driver, but I'm just like people driving bad, right, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.560 Like you know, every time I go to the hotel 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.880 on Saturdays, like you know, on uh I go, I 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.159 guess I go around like the back way on in 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.600 the State eighty. I want to stay. I go in 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.880 the State eighty and it's like man of speeding on 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.440 those sixty five seventy And you know sometimes I kind of, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.400 you know, if it's saving that might go Savni folk 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.240 say five minutes cars just going. I'm like, man, ain't 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.839 no way they're going sitty. They got going like eighty five. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.320 that's that sounds Northeast to me. Yeah. And then I 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:47.919 went out to the city a few times and now 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.640 you hear at the horn the light just turned green. Home. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:56.760 I'm like, could I could from the game? Man, I 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.479 feel I feel like a shame because I'm from Manhattan. Yeah, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.360 but now old I you know, it's I like it 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.080 because like every time I go to the city is 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.520 like I get a little bit excited because you know, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.159 I'm not really used to being in a big city 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.760 like that, or just being in this area in general. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.279 So have it taken the train to the city. Are 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:20.400 you driving all the time? Well? Normally what I'm going? Yeah, uber, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.960 but um, you know, before the season started. There was 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.560 times like I went out there on a Saturday with 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.720 my family and stuff and I drove out there and um, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.039 you know, the driving whness bad, you know, kind of 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.000 that time square area. It was you know, congested. Yeah, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.839 but um we went we and my family went on 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.880 the event. We uh did a tour of the one 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.120 World Trade Center and that we found the parking garage 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.680 not you know, far from there, and it wasn't that bad. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.839 So you know, I can I think I can manage 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.880 geting around a little bit. I wanta pack forward. Was 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.240 that for you going down to the World Trade Oh? Man? 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.919 That was that was unique? That was uh, that was cool, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.080 you know to go see that. Um, you know, just 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.880 to think back to when that happened. I remember I 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.320 was in like the third or fourth grade and at 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.520 the time, you know, I didn't really understand what really 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.800 was going on, but just knowing you know, how how 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.480 tragic and you know how south and how significant that 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.240 day was in like US history, you know, and seeing 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.080 the or is the ground zero at the water thing? 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.920 So that was that was that was a cool experience. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.200 And um, you know that's that's stuff I like to do, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.599 you know, in my downtime when I have time, you know, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.159 just go out there and see different things. What's the 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:34.640 biggest difference between let's say New York City and d C. Uh. Well, 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.719 for one, that's the buildings the south, the skyscrapers. D 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.680 C they didn't really have. I guess that's the architecture. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.680 They don't have tall buildings, so you can't have them. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.400 Because of the monuments there, monuments and all kind of 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.920 they got like a no flyes on in certain areas 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.200 and stuff. Um, but I think, oh know, like you said, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.760 like you said, d C, it's a little bit you know, 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.840 you're kind of getting into like the Northeast. You can 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.040 definitely feel that they still got a little feel of 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.839 like southern a little bit, you know. Um, but d 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.560 C was was unique. You know. There was a lot 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.520 of things to do out there. It was always something 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.640 to do. Not as much, I would say in New 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.800 York obviously, but DC had had a lot of nice 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.520 in the restaurants, going to see the mone Man smith 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.480 Sony and things of that nature. It was always something 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.280 to do. So DC is definitely, you know, one of 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.600 my favorite cities. You talked about your family a little bit. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:32.560 How close are you guys talk about your parents and 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.200 your and your brother. Of course it's just the two 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:36.960 of you. Yeah, just the two of us. Yeah, just 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.560 the two of us. Um, you know my parents, Um, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.680 you know, they they you know, I get a lot 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.640 of my mentality, a lot of my thinking from them. Um. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.120 You know, they raised me well, they taught me, you know, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.000 from right and wrong, and um, you know, they tried 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.720 to always have me involved in something, um, you know, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.960 from a young age. Uh, just so I could uh 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.000 you know, be successful or at least get exposure to 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.080 two things that a lot of my friends excuse me, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:05.960 a lot of my friends and people I grew up with, 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.840 you know, it wasn't necessarily getting that exposure. So um. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.280 So yeah, my family, man, we've always been close and 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.720 uh you know. And then my little brother, and they 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.560 tried to do the same with him, you know, try 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.880 to expose him to things. It's a little different. It 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.680 can be challenging at times, just because you know he 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.680 uh you know, deals with disability and can't speak and 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.440 stuff like that. But they want to make uh, you know, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.080 his life very similar to how I grew up. So also, 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.480 though about your brother, he loved sports and I saw this. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:41.600 I think he didn't. I think Duke did a video 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.400 that I watched the other week. You the relationship between you, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.680 your parents, your brother, and you guys would go out, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.000 meaning you and your brother Jamorris would play hoops together 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.319 and you do everything together even though there's an age difference. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.680 Then yeah, yeah, we'll go to the park, you know, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.360 just to get him at the house. You know, he 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.160 hasn't been as active as I have been, you know 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.080 obviously with sports and things like that, but you know, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.920 it just it was just things just to do. Let's 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.360 get him out the house. I can get out the house. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.560 We go to the part right up the street, um 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.520 from where you know our house was at, and we 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.680 just go up to the super basketball or just go 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.719 over there and pay on the playground, so said, or 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.760 whatever it may be, you know, just you know, just 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.800 like any other sibling, you know, brother, brother, type of 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.520 type activity. So um, like I said, you know, you 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.600 always we always need my family. We've always tried to 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.880 make um, you know, him feel just you know, like 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.880 everything is as normal as possible. And he obviously lives 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.520 with down syndrome. What does that mean in terms of 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.960 your communication because you talked about it before. He can't speak, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.360 So how do you guys go about having that connection 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:52.080 because everybody talks about Jamison says that that bond is 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.040 truly unique. It's something that you can see you don't 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.320 even have to see any verbal communication. Yeah, I mean 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.640 it's you know, like like you said, he can't can't speak, 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.439 but he's still smart, like he knows you know, right 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.760 from wrong and stuff. He you know sometimes you know 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.840 he's he's a teenager, you know he can well he's sixteen, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.360 he'd be seventeen in December, so uh, you know, I 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:17.360 think sometimes Mrs tries to manipulate us, you know, in 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.679 no way because he can you know, he can be 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.240 a handful at times. But um, you know, but like 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.600 I said, with the communication, you know, if he wants 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.920 something here, he'd go and get it and uh you 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.200 know he'd bring it to you. If it's a bag 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.320 of chips, he'd get the chips, eat them, you know. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.079 So um, but it's just that verbal communication and um, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.320 you know we've tried to get into like the sign 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.880 language and stuff like that. He knows some sign language, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.199 so that's another way that um, you know, my folks 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.480 kind of communicate with him, just like on basic you know, 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.360 basic sign language like eat stuff like that. Like you know, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.160 I've tried, like I said, just like some of the 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.480 little basic things like I'm not really that advanced in it, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.200 but just some of the basic things like you know, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.480 eating stuff like that. You know, he'd tried to pick 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.439 up on that from time to time. But if you'd 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.920 be like Jamore, she wants some neat and here, you know, here, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:04.960 he would come with you or whatever. You know, he 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.960 he knows. And then like times when we ride in 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.000 the car uh, you know, North Carolina, we have bow 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.520 Jangle stuff like that, so we may pass the bow 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.400 Jangles and uh, he may want some neat and he 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.000 may start fussing. You know, it's kind of start fussing 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.880 a little bit um and that that's letting us know 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.360 that he's hungry or he sees something that he wants. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.320 Now every time we don't stop, you know, because sometimes 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.000 he just had something but he wants something else. But 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.200 those the ways that we picked up on, um, you know, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.920 what he wants and things like that. So how frequent 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.760 are those FaceTime conversations between you and your parents and 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.160 your brother? Yeah, they pretty frequent, pretty frequent. Um, my 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.920 mom's got a new phones, so her phone was messing 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.719 up like two weeks ago. But they're pretty frequent though. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.320 You know, I always talk to my folks, talk to 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.319 him like every day and uh you know some days, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.720 uh sometimes you may go to or three days not 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.680 speak to him. And my mom black I ain't heard 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:59.360 from it. You know, she always checking in on me. So, um, yeah, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.400 it's it's freaking it's always weak and it's FaceTime or 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.560 or over the phone. It can be FaceTime over the phone, 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:07.760 you know, either or I'll talk to my dad. You know, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.640 my mom she may still be at work getting ready 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.960 to get off whatever. My dad had caught me and uh, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.480 my dad he just recently retired. So what did he do? 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.720 So he was he was a coach and an educator. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.120 He taught. He taught at my middle school. Um, so 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.960 he taught for a long time. When the year he 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.560 was like, uh yeah, he was a soch studies teacher 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.640 and um a coach. So when I was coming through, 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.040 he was my coach, he called coach the middle school 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.079 basketball team. So he was my coaching middle school. How 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.160 was he as a coach with with this something Um, yeah, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.880 he was. You know, it was just it was a 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.800 tougher for you than the rest of the kids. He 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.760 went tough for me. It wasn't tough for me because 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.640 he you know, he wasn't really like that, you know, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.600 I did something wrong, he let me know. But um, 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.360 you know in middle school level, man, we had a 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.320 really good team. Um and set down there, like like 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:54.800 the way the rules set up, you had to be 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.240 in seventh or eighth grade just doing the team. So 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:02.160 both years were really good. Um on the lost three games. Um, 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.160 you know, both years combined, so it wasn't really a lot. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.679 You know, it wasn't really getting on me too much. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.440 We was winning, you know, Georgia the time. So when 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.640 you were playing point, were you one of these new 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.520 age guys as first score first or you were dishing first? Oh, No, 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.640 I was more. I was more. I was more of 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.560 a facilitator. Um, I could score, you know sometimes. That 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.120 was one of the things that like my folks with 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.160 my dad's always you know kind of till me on 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.240 the side. Like I was like a very unselfish player, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.160 and sometimes I would be on service to a fault, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.520 Like you know, I was always trying to you know, 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.560 get everybody involved making nice pass and stuff, um instead 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.480 of scoring, you know, just an easy level or whatever. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:43.040 So but I could see you picking some people's pockets too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.800 you know, I just you know, play the passing lane. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.280 You know, I get a couple of steves, man, go 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.280 down and get a couple of dunks. You know, but 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.680 at what age could you dunk? So when I first, 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.120 I'm gonna tell you my first time I I dunk 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.800 was my It was after my sophomore year, going into 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.760 my junior year. That's summer I had gone to a 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:06.240 five star basketball camp down in Virginia at Hampton Sydney University, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.360 a little small school, and um, me and my cousin 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.680 we went to the camp and so like it was 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.320 like the first day that we got there was like 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.079 the check in day or whatever. And there was a 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.840 couple of guys that already checked me into the camp 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.040 that were there, and they was in the just shooting 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.760 ball in the gym. So we just wanted to started 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.760 shooting a little bit, started playing a look, you know 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.800 one whatever it was, and so I got the ball 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.000 one just one time I threw it up and it 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.600 bounced went up and dunking, and my cousin was like, man, 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.280 hold on you, that's crazy. And that was the first time. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.440 So that was my first time duncan like that was 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.000 my first time. First the first time dunking in the 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.840 game was my junior year. So the first time I 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.200 dunk was going into my junior that summer. And then 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.200 my junior year against Pe my high school, I stole 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.440 stole the pass and uh, I went down and just 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.120 dunked in. And I guess, you know, it's surprised a 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.960 lot of the fans, you know, a lot of a 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.720 lot of people knew me in my area. I'm looking 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.760 at your hands. You got big hands though now I 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.640 ain't that big, but I like for me, yeah, and 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.080 it's a it's surprise. It's surprised a lot of people, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.840 and um, you know, and it was like that ain't 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.720 done it. So like the crowd go wild, Yeah, they went, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.880 can you pomit? I could? I could, yeah, but but 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.760 like when I was dunk, when I was dunk though, 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.640 I never palmed it though, like I just I would 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.800 cover it like you would. Yeah. So um, so that 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.520 was like the crazy thing about it, Like I could 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.320 I could never just pomit in the game, like you know, 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.160 I can palmit if I just you know, put my 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.720 hand up or you know it's picking it up. But 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.320 in the game I couldn't get you know, my hand 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.720 when that big I weren't doing all that. You know, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.440 I went, did you ever take a tennis ball? That's 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.400 what we used to do one where kids because we 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.400 couldn't pomit, but we'd lower the rim a little bit 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.320 and take the tennis ball and try to bring it down. 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.280 But no, I never I never did that. I never 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.320 did that. It was I know, like like ninth grade, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.040 I had got like these dn't had these shoes called 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.840 sprinting shoes, and it was like you walk up, it's 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.040 like on the front part of your shoes like a 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.200 little plate. So it kind of forced you like to 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.720 walk on your toes and it supposedly supposed to like 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.200 you smith your calv muscles. So like me and my 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.480 cousin were just fascinated with trying to dunk. So we 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.960 got like Smith in his shoes and all kind of stuff. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.760 But I think, you know, looking back, it was just 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.360 kind of like you know, Asian matur got a little older. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.800 You know, that's really for me, that's all. It would like. 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.360 I'm a tour got a little older, got a little 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.880 more explosive. Um. I don't think the smithing shoes worked 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.200 at all. You know, we don't tell them that because 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.520 they're trying to make some money, right, but I really 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.320 haven't seen them. Yeah, probably I think that was the 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.640 thing doing that, you know, during that time. So you 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.200 talked about your pops a little bit. The social studies 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.280 teacher recently retired. He also played ball himself in college. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.320 But what about your mom? What did she do and 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.520 how much of an influence did she have on you? 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.640 She's had a huge influence something. She she works now 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.960 for company cars Hillodonova. They like specialized in making like 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.560 titanium for like airplanes and stuff like that, So she 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.560 works like an accounting for them. It's a little it's 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.240 a plant that's in my city and in my town. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.760 And um, she's been there. She's she's about to retire also, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.480 so um she's been there for a while. Um, but yeah, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.320 she's you know, she's the one that that that really 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.639 you know, keeps me going. And you know, every day 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.280 I always trying to tell me something where I need 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.840 to get better at like, um, you know, coming through school, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.800 it was just always like she was always when I 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.880 was pushing me to make sure that I was doing 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.520 I need to do in the classroom and stuff. Um, 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.040 you know, even though a lot of times you want 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.159 to kind of do what I need to do to 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.399 get by, but she was like, no, you gotta, you know, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.680 go to extra step, you know, in stead of getting 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.119 a instead of having a B, you know, get that 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.080 A or you know, write whatever it may be. So so, yeah, 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.080 she was the one that always wanted me to do 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.439 the extra go to extra mile. So and are you 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:53.000 more like your mother or your father? Oh? Man, I say, 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.919 I think I'm more like my dad. Come my dad 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.919 a little bit more laid back, a little bit more 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.600 laid back. To my mom, she's very like folks, you know, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.399 very expressive, very like um. She likes to be in charge, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.640 you know, and I'm not really like you know, I'm 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.919 not really like that. But I ain't just gonna, you know, 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.240 put myself out there and just start out being vocal 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.000 and stuff. So I'm more like I'm more like my dad. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.760 I'm more like laid back sill. So, So why did 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:20.960 choose sociology as your major Duke, and man, you got 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.199 a minor in African American studies too. I believe in 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.919 the marketing management and uh MMS certificate Marketing Management and 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.399 he did that, the duke too well. So why we 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.439 decided I and what do you think that? Do you 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.040 have a thought processes? First, listen, you're gonna play for 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.520 a long time. You're a successful guy out there on 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.640 the field. But have you thought about post career? Yeah? 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.800 I have. I think about it. I think about all 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.240 the time. But you know, I think about it now. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.639 I feel like I'm at the stage of my career 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.119 where it's it's it's you know, a thought that I 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.520 always do, UM that I always have. UM. At this point, man, 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.200 I'm I'm really trying to get into I want to 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:57.920 get into the real estate. That's what I want to do. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.760