1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: We're here in the play MGM Studios, Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen, 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder Jamison, thanks for joining us. All right, so 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: before we dive in here, Halloween recently passed. I just 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: want to get your power rankings of candy bars. Huh yeah, 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: I figured it was topical Halloween's recent. I feel like 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: before we get into the Thanksgiving spirit, you gotta get 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: some some candy power rankings from Jamison here. Okay, I 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: only eat like three candy bars anyway, all right, that's great, 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: keep it short. Number one would have to be a 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: baby Ruth Baby Ruth. Number two would be as Snickers, 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: and number three would be a I'm enjoy. I don't 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: if they count, but I don't know if I've ever 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: had a baby Ruth. I don't know if I've ever 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: had an Almond Joy Joy, my little mama Joy. You 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: asked my lady, my girlfriend, like anytime she goes in 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: the store, like you know, from getting some games. You 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: want to go and get something. But how off it's 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: a guy like you having candy can you can you 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: do anything you want during the season because you don't 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: you don't have much body fat, right, and like I, 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: like I said, it's not yeah, I'm not eating it. 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm not eating a candy bar every day. You know, 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: it's just you know, every now and then, like I said, 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: it may stop the store, pump gas whatever, or it's 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: bit well not pump gas New Jersey because you'all don't 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: do you like that? But that's cool. Did you know 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: that when you first came here? No, I didn't. I 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: didn't actually, so I actually found out that. Um, it 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: was like that I was. It was an off season. 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: I was at duke training and uh, one of the 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: trainers that work in the training room. Um, she lives, 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: she's from New Jersey, lived in New Jersey for a 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: long period of time, and um, she explained that to 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: me because you know, in North Carolina we have just 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, convenience stores. You know, the gas you get out, 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: pump your gas, you go in, you know, like every 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: other state in the country. Yeah, basically, you know, get 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: your drink, it's a candy bar. But up here, you know, 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: like the first time I had gone, like I said, 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: she had a weird you know, she let me know 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: about it, and now it was weird like, first of all, 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I went there, you know, the guy came up to 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: my window and he was like, yeah, what do you want? 45 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Like ninety three whatever? You know, So it was kind 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: of weird but it's cool though, Like what's your favorite 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: cheap food? Oh, my favorite seat food. I probably have 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: to say, like just like some some chicken wings, like 49 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I love, I love wings stop. Back home, I haven't. 50 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I haven't found the wings stop out here because that 51 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: sounds fourn to meion wings stop. I don't know if 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: we have any upen New York, NA. What I mean Like, 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: I feel like if you're if you're looking for chicken wings, 54 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: you just gotta find the barbecue, right right. But dinosaur well, 55 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: dinosaur barbecue. There's one in Syracuse, there's one in Brooklyn, 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: there's one in New York, Newark, there's one in Harlem. 57 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: That's probably that might be dinosaur barbecue originate in Syracuse, right, yes, 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: first one? Alright, well yeah I might have checked that out. 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: But back home, wing stop. Man. So what has the 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: transition been like for you? You grew up in North Carolina, 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: you want to do? You played in Washington, which I 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: consider somewhat northeast, but this is really northeast, right right, Yeah, yeah, 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's been a little bit of 64 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: a different, you know, transition, but I think that you know, 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: I've adjusted well to it. Um, you know, it's just 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: still trying to learn my way around this area. I'm 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: not looking forward to to the winter. It was. It was, 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: but a lot of times while I was there, Um, 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, I we would I would miss you know, 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: um and that winter storm would probably come in more 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: so like late January, early February, so you know, a 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: lot of guys would with would uh you know, we 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: get out of town or be gone by then. But 74 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, so whether there's a significant difference, what else 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: you see it changing people up here? Yeah for sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know a lot of people attitude, 77 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, not everybody though, it's not it's not as uh, 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, back home, you know, everybody's hey, how you doing, 79 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, and speaking and everything. But up here, you know, 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: it's just more so you gotta just you know, going 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: about your business. You know. The driving up here, they 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: drive crazy. Are you a conservative driver? Now? I'm not 83 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: a conservative driver, but I'm just like people driving bad, right, 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, every time I go to the hotel 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: on Saturdays, like you know, on uh I go, I 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: guess I go around like the back way on in 87 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: the State eighty. I want to stay. I go in 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: the State eighty and it's like man of speeding on 89 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: those sixty five seventy And you know sometimes I kind of, 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, if it's saving that might go Savni folk 91 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: say five minutes cars just going. I'm like, man, ain't 92 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: no way they're going sitty. They got going like eighty five. Yeah, yeah, 93 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: that's that sounds Northeast to me. Yeah. And then I 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: went out to the city a few times and now 95 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: you hear at the horn the light just turned green. Home. 96 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, could I could from the game? Man, I 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: feel I feel like a shame because I'm from Manhattan. Yeah, 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: but now old I you know, it's I like it 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: because like every time I go to the city is 100 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: like I get a little bit excited because you know, 101 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: I'm not really used to being in a big city 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: like that, or just being in this area in general. 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: So have it taken the train to the city. Are 104 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: you driving all the time? Well? Normally what I'm going? Yeah, uber, 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: but um, you know, before the season started. There was 106 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: times like I went out there on a Saturday with 107 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: my family and stuff and I drove out there and um, 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: you know, the driving whness bad, you know, kind of 109 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: that time square area. It was you know, congested. Yeah, 110 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: but um we went we and my family went on 111 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: the event. We uh did a tour of the one 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: World Trade Center and that we found the parking garage 113 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: not you know, far from there, and it wasn't that bad. 114 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: So you know, I can I think I can manage 115 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: geting around a little bit. I wanta pack forward. Was 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: that for you going down to the World Trade Oh? Man? 117 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: That was that was unique? That was uh, that was cool, 118 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: you know to go see that. Um, you know, just 119 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: to think back to when that happened. I remember I 120 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: was in like the third or fourth grade and at 121 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the time, you know, I didn't really understand what really 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: was going on, but just knowing you know, how how 123 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: tragic and you know how south and how significant that 124 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: day was in like US history, you know, and seeing 125 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: the or is the ground zero at the water thing? 126 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: So that was that was that was a cool experience. 127 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: And um, you know that's that's stuff I like to do, 128 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: you know, in my downtime when I have time, you know, 129 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: just go out there and see different things. What's the 130 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: biggest difference between let's say New York City and d C. Uh. Well, 131 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: for one, that's the buildings the south, the skyscrapers. D 132 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: C they didn't really have. I guess that's the architecture. 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: They don't have tall buildings, so you can't have them. 134 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Because of the monuments there, monuments and all kind of 135 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: they got like a no flyes on in certain areas 136 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: and stuff. Um, but I think, oh know, like you said, 137 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: like you said, d C, it's a little bit you know, 138 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: you're kind of getting into like the Northeast. You can 139 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: definitely feel that they still got a little feel of 140 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: like southern a little bit, you know. Um, but d 141 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: C was was unique. You know. There was a lot 142 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: of things to do out there. It was always something 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: to do. Not as much, I would say in New 144 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: York obviously, but DC had had a lot of nice 145 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: in the restaurants, going to see the mone Man smith 146 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Sony and things of that nature. It was always something 147 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: to do. So DC is definitely, you know, one of 148 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: my favorite cities. You talked about your family a little bit. 149 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: How close are you guys talk about your parents and 150 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: your and your brother. Of course it's just the two 151 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, just the two of us. Yeah, just 152 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: the two of us. Um, you know my parents, Um, 153 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, they they you know, I get a lot 154 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: of my mentality, a lot of my thinking from them. Um. 155 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: You know, they raised me well, they taught me, you know, 156 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: from right and wrong, and um, you know, they tried 157 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: to always have me involved in something, um, you know, 158 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: from a young age. Uh, just so I could uh 159 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, be successful or at least get exposure to 160 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: two things that a lot of my friends excuse me, 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends and people I grew up with, 162 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't necessarily getting that exposure. So um. 163 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, my family, man, we've always been close and 164 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: uh you know. And then my little brother, and they 165 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: tried to do the same with him, you know, try 166 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: to expose him to things. It's a little different. It 167 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: can be challenging at times, just because you know he 168 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: uh you know, deals with disability and can't speak and 169 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But they want to make uh, you know, 170 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: his life very similar to how I grew up. So also, 171 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: though about your brother, he loved sports and I saw this. 172 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I think he didn't. I think Duke did a video 173 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: that I watched the other week. You the relationship between you, 174 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: your parents, your brother, and you guys would go out, 175 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: meaning you and your brother Jamorris would play hoops together 176 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: and you do everything together even though there's an age difference. 177 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: Then yeah, yeah, we'll go to the park, you know, 178 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: just to get him at the house. You know, he 179 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been as active as I have been, you know 180 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: obviously with sports and things like that, but you know, 181 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: it just it was just things just to do. Let's 182 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: get him out the house. I can get out the house. 183 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: We go to the part right up the street, um 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: from where you know our house was at, and we 185 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: just go up to the super basketball or just go 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: over there and pay on the playground, so said, or 187 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you know, just you know, just 188 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: like any other sibling, you know, brother, brother, type of 189 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: type activity. So um, like I said, you know, you 190 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: always we always need my family. We've always tried to 191 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: make um, you know, him feel just you know, like 192 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: everything is as normal as possible. And he obviously lives 193 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: with down syndrome. What does that mean in terms of 194 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: your communication because you talked about it before. He can't speak, 195 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: So how do you guys go about having that connection 196 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: because everybody talks about Jamison says that that bond is 197 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: truly unique. It's something that you can see you don't 198 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: even have to see any verbal communication. Yeah, I mean 199 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, like like you said, he can't can't speak, 200 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: but he's still smart, like he knows you know, right 201 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: from wrong and stuff. He you know sometimes you know 202 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: he's he's a teenager, you know he can well he's sixteen, 203 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: he'd be seventeen in December, so uh, you know, I 204 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: think sometimes Mrs tries to manipulate us, you know, in 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: no way because he can you know, he can be 206 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: a handful at times. But um, you know, but like 207 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: I said, with the communication, you know, if he wants 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: something here, he'd go and get it and uh you 209 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: know he'd bring it to you. If it's a bag 210 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: of chips, he'd get the chips, eat them, you know. 211 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: So um, but it's just that verbal communication and um, 212 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: you know we've tried to get into like the sign 213 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: language and stuff like that. He knows some sign language, 214 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: so that's another way that um, you know, my folks 215 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: kind of communicate with him, just like on basic you know, 216 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: basic sign language like eat stuff like that. Like you know, 217 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I've tried, like I said, just like some of the 218 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: little basic things like I'm not really that advanced in it, 219 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: but just some of the basic things like you know, 220 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: eating stuff like that. You know, he'd tried to pick 221 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: up on that from time to time. But if you'd 222 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: be like Jamore, she wants some neat and here, you know, here, 223 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: he would come with you or whatever. You know, he 224 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: he knows. And then like times when we ride in 225 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: the car uh, you know, North Carolina, we have bow 226 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Jangle stuff like that, so we may pass the bow 227 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: Jangles and uh, he may want some neat and he 228 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: may start fussing. You know, it's kind of start fussing 229 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: a little bit um and that that's letting us know 230 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: that he's hungry or he sees something that he wants. 231 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Now every time we don't stop, you know, because sometimes 232 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: he just had something but he wants something else. But 233 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: those the ways that we picked up on, um, you know, 234 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: what he wants and things like that. So how frequent 235 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: are those FaceTime conversations between you and your parents and 236 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: your brother? Yeah, they pretty frequent, pretty frequent. Um, my 237 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: mom's got a new phones, so her phone was messing 238 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: up like two weeks ago. But they're pretty frequent though. 239 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, I always talk to my folks, talk to 240 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: him like every day and uh you know some days, 241 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: uh sometimes you may go to or three days not 242 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: speak to him. And my mom black I ain't heard 243 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: from it. You know, she always checking in on me. So, um, yeah, 244 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: it's it's freaking it's always weak and it's FaceTime or 245 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: or over the phone. It can be FaceTime over the phone, 246 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, either or I'll talk to my dad. You know, 247 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: my mom she may still be at work getting ready 248 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: to get off whatever. My dad had caught me and uh, 249 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: my dad he just recently retired. So what did he do? 250 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: So he was he was a coach and an educator. 251 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: He taught. He taught at my middle school. Um, so 252 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: he taught for a long time. When the year he 253 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: was like, uh yeah, he was a soch studies teacher 254 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: and um a coach. So when I was coming through, 255 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: he was my coach, he called coach the middle school 256 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: basketball team. So he was my coaching middle school. How 257 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: was he as a coach with with this something Um, yeah, 258 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: he was. You know, it was just it was a 259 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: tougher for you than the rest of the kids. He 260 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: went tough for me. It wasn't tough for me because 261 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: he you know, he wasn't really like that, you know, 262 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: I did something wrong, he let me know. But um, 263 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: you know in middle school level, man, we had a 264 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: really good team. Um and set down there, like like 265 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: the way the rules set up, you had to be 266 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: in seventh or eighth grade just doing the team. So 267 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: both years were really good. Um on the lost three games. Um, 268 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, both years combined, so it wasn't really a lot. 269 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't really getting on me too much. 270 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: We was winning, you know, Georgia the time. So when 271 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: you were playing point, were you one of these new 272 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: age guys as first score first or you were dishing first? Oh, No, 273 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: I was more. I was more. I was more of 274 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: a facilitator. Um, I could score, you know sometimes. That 275 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: was one of the things that like my folks with 276 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: my dad's always you know kind of till me on 277 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: the side. Like I was like a very unselfish player, 278 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: and sometimes I would be on service to a fault, 279 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, I was always trying to you know, 280 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: get everybody involved making nice pass and stuff, um instead 281 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: of scoring, you know, just an easy level or whatever. 282 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: So but I could see you picking some people's pockets too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 283 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, I just you know, play the passing lane. 284 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, I get a couple of steves, man, go 285 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: down and get a couple of dunks. You know, but 286 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: at what age could you dunk? So when I first, 287 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you my first time I I dunk 288 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: was my It was after my sophomore year, going into 289 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: my junior year. That's summer I had gone to a 290 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: five star basketball camp down in Virginia at Hampton Sydney University, 291 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: a little small school, and um, me and my cousin 292 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: we went to the camp and so like it was 293 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: like the first day that we got there was like 294 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: the check in day or whatever. And there was a 295 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: couple of guys that already checked me into the camp 296 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: that were there, and they was in the just shooting 297 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: ball in the gym. So we just wanted to started 298 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: shooting a little bit, started playing a look, you know 299 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: one whatever it was, and so I got the ball 300 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: one just one time I threw it up and it 301 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: bounced went up and dunking, and my cousin was like, man, 302 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: hold on you, that's crazy. And that was the first time. 303 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: So that was my first time duncan like that was 304 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: my first time. First the first time dunking in the 305 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: game was my junior year. So the first time I 306 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: dunk was going into my junior that summer. And then 307 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: my junior year against Pe my high school, I stole 308 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: stole the pass and uh, I went down and just 309 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: dunked in. And I guess, you know, it's surprised a 310 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: lot of the fans, you know, a lot of a 311 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of people knew me in my area. I'm looking 312 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: at your hands. You got big hands though now I 313 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: ain't that big, but I like for me, yeah, and 314 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's surprise. It's surprised a lot of people, 315 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: and um, you know, and it was like that ain't 316 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: done it. So like the crowd go wild, Yeah, they went, 317 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: can you pomit? I could? I could, yeah, but but 318 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: like when I was dunk, when I was dunk though, 319 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I never palmed it though, like I just I would 320 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: cover it like you would. Yeah. So um, so that 321 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: was like the crazy thing about it, Like I could 322 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: I could never just pomit in the game, like you know, 323 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: I can palmit if I just you know, put my 324 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: hand up or you know it's picking it up. But 325 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: in the game I couldn't get you know, my hand 326 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: when that big I weren't doing all that. You know, 327 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I went, did you ever take a tennis ball? That's 328 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: what we used to do one where kids because we 329 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: couldn't pomit, but we'd lower the rim a little bit 330 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: and take the tennis ball and try to bring it down. 331 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: But no, I never I never did that. I never 332 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: did that. It was I know, like like ninth grade, 333 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I had got like these dn't had these shoes called 334 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: sprinting shoes, and it was like you walk up, it's 335 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: like on the front part of your shoes like a 336 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: little plate. So it kind of forced you like to 337 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: walk on your toes and it supposedly supposed to like 338 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: you smith your calv muscles. So like me and my 339 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: cousin were just fascinated with trying to dunk. So we 340 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: got like Smith in his shoes and all kind of stuff. 341 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, looking back, it was just 342 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: kind of like you know, Asian matur got a little older. 343 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, that's really for me, that's all. It would like. 344 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm a tour got a little older, got a little 345 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: more explosive. Um. I don't think the smithing shoes worked 346 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: at all. You know, we don't tell them that because 347 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: they're trying to make some money, right, but I really 348 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen them. Yeah, probably I think that was the 349 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: thing doing that, you know, during that time. So you 350 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: talked about your pops a little bit. The social studies 351 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: teacher recently retired. He also played ball himself in college. 352 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: But what about your mom? What did she do and 353 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: how much of an influence did she have on you? 354 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: She's had a huge influence something. She she works now 355 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: for company cars Hillodonova. They like specialized in making like 356 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: titanium for like airplanes and stuff like that, So she 357 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: works like an accounting for them. It's a little it's 358 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: a plant that's in my city and in my town. 359 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: And um, she's been there. She's she's about to retire also, 360 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: so um she's been there for a while. Um, but yeah, 361 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: she's you know, she's the one that that that really 362 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: you know, keeps me going. And you know, every day 363 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: I always trying to tell me something where I need 364 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: to get better at like, um, you know, coming through school, 365 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: it was just always like she was always when I 366 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: was pushing me to make sure that I was doing 367 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I need to do in the classroom and stuff. Um, 368 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, even though a lot of times you want 369 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: to kind of do what I need to do to 370 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: get by, but she was like, no, you gotta, you know, 371 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: go to extra step, you know, in stead of getting 372 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: a instead of having a B, you know, get that 373 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: A or you know, write whatever it may be. So so, yeah, 374 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: she was the one that always wanted me to do 375 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: the extra go to extra mile. So and are you 376 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: more like your mother or your father? Oh? Man, I say, 377 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: I think I'm more like my dad. Come my dad 378 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: a little bit more laid back, a little bit more 379 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: laid back. To my mom, she's very like folks, you know, 380 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: very expressive, very like um. She likes to be in charge, 381 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not really like you know, I'm 382 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: not really like that. But I ain't just gonna, you know, 383 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: put myself out there and just start out being vocal 384 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: and stuff. So I'm more like I'm more like my dad. 385 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm more like laid back sill. So, So why did 386 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: choose sociology as your major Duke, and man, you got 387 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: a minor in African American studies too. I believe in 388 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: the marketing management and uh MMS certificate Marketing Management and 389 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: he did that, the duke too well. So why we 390 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: decided I and what do you think that? Do you 391 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: have a thought processes? First, listen, you're gonna play for 392 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: a long time. You're a successful guy out there on 393 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: the field. But have you thought about post career? Yeah? 394 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: I have. I think about it. I think about all 395 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: the time. But you know, I think about it now. 396 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at the stage of my career 397 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: where it's it's it's you know, a thought that I 398 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: always do, UM that I always have. UM. At this point, man, 399 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really trying to get into I want to 400 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: get into the real estate. That's what I want to do. 401 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: Want something, you know done. I bought a few properties 402 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: in my area Carolina, Yeah, down in North Carolina, just 403 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: about my folks and in my house that they you know, 404 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: currently moving into in the process of moving into, uh 405 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: down in North Carolina as well. It's in monro Yeah. 406 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: It's kind of yep, I grew up. It's kind of 407 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: more so on the on the edge of like getting 408 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: into like the county, like in the country, the country 409 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: where we call it. Uh guess here it's like the suburb, 410 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: but it's the country. Um uh you know back home. 411 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: But um, like I said, I got a few rental 412 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: properties that um, you know this upcoming all season that 413 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to kind of you know, get get going 414 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: and uh, I gotta go and do some renovating stuff 415 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: like that. So you know, I'm still trying to learn it, 416 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: you know. And uh, just yesterday, UH was got Bryce 417 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: with with with us they work with that. Yeah, you know, 418 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: they got a few programs at the NFL um p A. 419 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: They offer like a few business things and in all season. 420 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: Um I did. I did one of those two years. 421 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: Three years ago when I was in Washington, I did 422 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: an internship with the uh Marriott he ad quarters him. 423 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: But there's the Maryland. So yeah, I've been thinking about 424 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I know this football stuff don't last, man. 425 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: So I've been trying to you know, diving dead and 426 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: certain things. See if I like it, um, you know 427 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: what I can get into you know after after after football. Yeah, 428 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: you should talk also to Brandon Copeland. We had him 429 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: on the podcast he's a big real estate guy as well. Yeah, 430 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: but I want to know about Duke because here's basketball. 431 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: You love hoops. Duke is obviously one of the mecca's 432 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: in the college football or college football college football. We 433 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: can see him later. Okay, So they got my boy 434 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: over there across the way. Pretty good. Yeah, you know 435 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: you're tight with Quinn Cook, aren't you? Is not your 436 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: guy queen? Pretty cool? Yeah, and you were telling us before, 437 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: but I want to bring it back on the podcast. 438 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: When you were recruited to do you played pick up 439 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: just with one of the plumb Lea's and that team. Yeah, yeah, 440 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: that was the team that was I want to say 441 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: that was a team that was so the year before 442 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: to what year? What year we're talking about, So we're 443 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: talking about twenty so it was going into my senior 444 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: year and I graduated twenty eleven, so it had to 445 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: be like the summer of twenty team the summer of 446 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: teen going into my senior year. Uh So, but the 447 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: year before Duke had won the national championship. That's when 448 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: they had Nolan Smith. She Knowlan Smith and them had 449 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: just graduated. So I think that year before that, that's 450 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: when they had won it and it was Kyrie. It 451 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: was Kyrie was an incoming freshman. But anyway, making long 452 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: story short, was on a recruiting visit there and it 453 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: was during the summer. So me and my family just 454 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: there and ran into Marshall Plumley and we got to 455 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: talking with him. A mom initiated the conversation. She's the talker, 456 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: and we end up, you know, long story, so we 457 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: end up. You know, he asked me, I want to 458 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: come play pick up ball with them? So I ended 459 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: up going to playing pick up ball and it was 460 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, Kyrie, Andre Dawkins, Um, John Heirs thing, Uh, 461 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Thornton, Um, shoot all those guys man. So we 462 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: end up playing pig ball and it was it was, 463 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: you know, a great experience for me, you know, just 464 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: go out there and play with those guys. Man. Like 465 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: you said, I held my own. I held my own 466 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: for so but it was cool though. It was cool. 467 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Dunk No, I didn't die. I didn't. I didn't get 468 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: a chance, you know, you know, dunk man. But but 469 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: but this is fascinating to me because obviously you're an 470 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: elite athlete, so sometimes we see overlapping, uh, and you 471 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: played a high school ball. So you you go to 472 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: do you're the top receiver from a statistical standpoint of 473 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: all time at Duke. But um, you know you overlapped 474 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: with Kyrie Irving a few times and you said, yeah, 475 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: there were multiple times we got like court, what did 476 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: you think about him at that time? Did you know 477 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: he was gonna be what he's becoming? Also, how do 478 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: you like? Playing Cameron? Was cool? So we actually played 479 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: pickup ball in the press facility, which but I've been 480 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: a camera you know, plenty of times, um at the time. 481 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: And it was crazy though I really didn't even know 482 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Kyrie like that, you know, because you know, he's a 483 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: new Jersey guy. Whatever. It's like a lot of times 484 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: I found like, you know, I was like a lot 485 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: of guys from North Carolina area, but you know, I 486 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: ain't got word of he like the number one croup 487 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: you know whatever. So that was cool. That was cool 488 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: playing with him, And um, I think that man as 489 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: far as point guards with with with scorn ability and 490 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: with handles, he's definitely the top top of my list. Um, 491 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, even back then playing against him just pick 492 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: up ball. And then you know, obviously now when the 493 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: top guards in the in the NBA. Uh So yeah, man, 494 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: that's that's why I think about him, and uh it 495 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: was cool. It was a great experience when you when 496 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: you played with Plumbly and Kyrie and you're going into 497 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: your senior year from high school, Like are you freaking 498 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: out being like crap him about to play with the yea? 499 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I remember, I was nervous. I ain't 500 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was like, man, they just want that's 501 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: a tempionship like I play, you know, high school ball. 502 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: It's like a whole another level. So that was cool 503 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: and I was I was. I was definitely a little nervous, 504 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: but like I said, I didn't got to play with 505 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: those guys and I, you know, score a couple of buckets. 506 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you know, I play a little bit, 507 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, but did you have your own Did you 508 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: have your own shoes? One thing that I'm giving your clothes. 509 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: But she was a very important. Man. If I can 510 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: find a picture, my family had it. Man, Man Miles, 511 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: he went back there. He got me, ain't on the shirt, shoes, 512 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: shorts and everything. Because I was this on the V 513 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: I had jeans and a college shirt. And then I 514 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: was like I don't have anything like, Man, I can 515 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: I take care of you? So your parents watching this? 516 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: My parents was watching and everything. So what I'm gonna 517 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find them pictures. I'm gonna find them. Yeah, 518 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: I want to see them. You wanna find the pictures 519 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: for y'all. What your pops say afterwards? Man, he say much, 520 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: you know, and a matter of fact, I'm gonna tell you, 521 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell who pops to talk to authors uh 522 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: Ow it was Brodakowski. The guy he was was that 523 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: Mark cat Now it was a famous point for coach 524 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: of course, and talk with him for a while after 525 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: we had finished playing, and um, he was like, yeah, 526 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: my son, you're telling you my son, you know, could 527 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: possibly be coming here on football scholarship. So it was 528 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: just it was just a great experience. Man. So I'm 529 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna get the caught here in second. But did you 530 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: have an opportunity being such an established receiver there on 531 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: the campus there and Durham, did you have any interaction 532 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: with Coach k yourself? Oh, I've made him a couple 533 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: of times after I graduated, So while I was there, 534 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: I never had really, you know, any interaction with him. 535 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean one time, me and Queenn were just hanging 536 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: out and Queen was on the phone with him, and uh, 537 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: I didn't say nothing that you know, but other than that, 538 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: it was after I graduated, my first time getting a 539 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: chance to meet coach k. So I've met him a 540 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: few times, you know, when I go back in the offseason. So, so, yeah, 541 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: David cuck left. How did he get you two Duke? 542 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: And what did he mean to your career? Not just 543 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: there but now is you're sitting here a veteran of 544 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: the National Football Lake Yeah, well, I mean he got 545 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: me there. Uh. I just felt like Duke was the 546 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: right place for me, excuse me at the time, and 547 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: it was it was kind of crazy how how the 548 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: recruiting process um kind of happened and how things kind 549 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: of changed. Uh, you know at first, uh with Duke 550 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: my first offer, so I was very thankful for that. 551 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: And then Carolina came, and then like East Carolina came 552 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: to a couple of schools and so State. Yeah, for um, 553 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: I had pretty much out of North Carolina schools, you know, 554 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm had a couple of smaller D one double as 555 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: schools and uh, initially, um, you know, I really didn't 556 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: know you know, I was kind of leaning towards Carolina, dude, 557 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, ECUs just up in the air. But um, 558 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: uh Carolina, they wanted me to come in and play 559 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: defensive back. So like when I was going on recruiting 560 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: visits there, I was meeting with the defensive coordinator and 561 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: in the UH in the cornerback, and I was like, nah, 562 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to play defense. I played 563 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: defensive high school, you know, both sides, both sides of ball. 564 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: But um, I really I really wasn't feeling you know, defense. 565 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 1: You know, at the next level, I feel like I 566 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: was better with the ball in my hand. And then um, 567 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: East Carolina at the time, they had like the air 568 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: raid offense with UH coach McNeil and m Lincoln Riley 569 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: was the offensive corner So um, I was like, man, 570 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, East Carolina the really good But the only 571 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: thing with like East Carolina. One of the reason why 572 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, two ago, there was you know, 573 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: the conference that they played in that want of my 574 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: family to come to the game. So they were like 575 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: in uh, I don't want to say the room they 576 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: were They're playing like Tulane and Tulsa. It's like a 577 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: lot of the games. Now, yeah, I don't know what 578 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: it is, but a lot of their games where you know, 579 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: some of the games were probably used to be the 580 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: Conference USA, so like you know, some of the games 581 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: like that was for farther And I was like, okay, 582 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: A c C and Coach Cut they wanted to come 583 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: and play offense the coach cause they just made me 584 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: feel like it was a home atmosphere, like you know 585 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: if they made me really feel like they bring me in, 586 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: you know, not timming what I want to hear, but 587 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: timm it was right. But at the same time, you know, 588 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: made me feel like I'm a part, you know, a 589 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: part of the program and everything. And then it was 590 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: also the A C C. So you know, I thought 591 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: about my family. Okay, if we're not playing that, dude, 592 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: away game might be you un right down the road. 593 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: My family can still come, or we ain't playing it, dude, 594 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: we might play it wake forwards and when to say 595 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: them my family can still come. So that's what really, 596 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, got me there. And then I was like, 597 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: I said, Coach Cut, they made me feel like really 598 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: welcome and stuff. So and then obviously you know camp 599 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: pass up on the on the duke education you know, Um, 600 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: that was the main thing. Um. So yeah, that's really 601 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: how I got to do all right, So I want 602 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: to bring things full circle here before we let you go. 603 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: You do a lot of work in the community. You're 604 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: talking about your family. You do a lot of work 605 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: or kids with disabilities. So what have you done and 606 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: what do you hope to do in the future. Well, 607 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, we had to camp I don't know if 608 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned this before, but we had to camp down 609 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: and then um in North Carolina that duke in all 610 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: season for you know, kids with Downson John in that area, 611 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: and then um, you know, just trying to you know, 612 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: raise money and stuff like that. So next Tuesday, I 613 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: want to say, not next to it, but the following tuesday, 614 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: it'll be November to twelve, I'm having an event at 615 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: the moles Moles and um, you know, we're just sign 616 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: some all the graphs to be there from five to 617 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: eight and uh, you know, it's just the proceeds when 618 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: they come in is gonna go to um, you know, 619 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: National Downson John UH Foundation and everything. So that's that's 620 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: coming up. That would be November twelve, is the camping Duke. 621 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Is that the one that you worked with my friend 622 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: in Syracuse, Michelle Sain. Yeah, yeah, that's her shout. What 623 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: what should people know about families who have somebody with 624 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: downs and what is out there that it's just a 625 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: misperception that people think. Yeah, I mean I think, um, 626 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: some of that people should know. Well, I know, for like, 627 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: just speaking from experience, are some of the challenges you know, um, 628 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: just the challenges day to day challenge Like you know, 629 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: in my area, we don't really have a lot of 630 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: resources for Jamar's or for my family. You know, if 631 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: my family want to go out and do certain things, 632 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of resource and not 633 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot of places they can go where they have 634 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: um you know, uh centers or something where they can teach, 635 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, on on on their level or help them 636 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, develop. So a lot of stuff my family, myself, 637 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: we have to do on ourselves. So I think that's 638 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that for me personally, I want 639 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: to get my brother and I know there's a lot 640 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: of other famils out there in the same situation and 641 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: get my brother exposed to you know, just you know, 642 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: come together and you know, talk about the challenges family 643 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: differ family, talk about the challenges and then try to 644 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: come up with a solution or something we can help. 645 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, those families that they don't have those resources 646 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: in those areas that you know, can help their family 647 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: member with downs grow and develop. Um. That's the main 648 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: thing that I that I think, Um is uh, you 649 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: know on the day to day challenges that that I see, 650 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta ask in your family's been incredible 651 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: with that. It's uh, And I think and what you're 652 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: doing on the what is it the November eleventh? You 653 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta shot, get out there, meet Jamison, getting 654 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: photo taken with him and get something from most Yeah, 655 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: and the proceedson I posted on my Instagram. You know, Um, 656 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: it's out there. I'll just keep give the shot out 657 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram. What's the handle? Yeah? Oh man my Instagram 658 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: j Underscore crowd. We gotta ask you man though, before 659 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: you get out you're going back to Washington here soon. Yeah, 660 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: I know you just be looking for a victory, but 661 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: what what what what goes through your mind? Uh? The 662 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to go back and play against the team that 663 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: drafted you and you had a number of good seasons 664 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: there before signing with jetson Freeny. Yeah, I mean, you know, 665 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: it's definitely I'm looking forward to, you know, obviously looking 666 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: forward to this game this week. You know. Yeah, I'm 667 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to going to Washington as well, you know, 668 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: playing against those guys, a lot of guys. I know, 669 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: I have a really good relationship with, um, you know, Washington, 670 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: and I just look at it, you know, uh as 671 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: a as a as a blessing. You know, they gave 672 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: me opportunity to get into this into this league, into 673 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: this business. You know, they drafted me and um, you know, 674 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: gave me up to get my foot in the door. 675 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: So I appreciate it. But I definitely look forward to 676 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: playing November twelve, Mos floora Park, meet Jamison. We appreciate 677 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: you coming five pm to eight pm, five to eight 678 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: November twelve, Mo. We gotta have it back, yeah all right, 679 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: yeah we gotta have a hoop segment. I enjoyed it. Yeah, 680 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: we need to you know, talk a little basketball. Yeah 681 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: all right. That was the Official Jets podcast, presented or 682 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: powered by A. W. S. Here in the play MGM Studios. 683 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: You can find us New York Jets dot com, YouTube, SoundCloud, 684 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, Google Play, pretty much whatever, Jamison, thanks for 685 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: joining us. Well, we'll have you back on for some 686 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: blook talk alright, Yeah sounds good.