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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Works

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Speaker 1: for Us, where we talk to people about what works

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Speaker 1: for them in their relationships and of course what doesn't. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So we've had plenty of friendships featured on Works for

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Speaker 1: Us before, but today's guest is one of those truly

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Speaker 1: magical people who's created the strongest community of lifelong friends

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Speaker 1: around her since she was a child. An actual child,

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Speaker 1: Sleigh Moonfries probably the brightest, sunshiny unicorn person that everyone

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Speaker 1: naturally gravitates to, and I'm so very grateful to call

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Speaker 1: her one of my closest friends. Not only is she

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary actor and mother who famously started in both

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Speaker 1: Punky Brewster and its reboot, but she's also documented and

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Speaker 1: produced her own documentary, Kid ninety, about her experiences and

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Speaker 1: friendships as a child star. Her poignant film really highlights

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Speaker 1: the family and community that she formed with other young

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Speaker 1: actors in Hollywood, and I couldn't be more cited to

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Speaker 1: talk to her about that, her life and everything else.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me on Works for

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Speaker 1: Us today, My sweet solet I love you so much

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Speaker 1: and I am in tears. I have chills all over

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Speaker 1: I love you so much, Rachel, and you really are

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Speaker 1: one of the brightest forces in my life. And you

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Speaker 1: are such an incredible friend. And I love the way

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Speaker 1: that we get to love each other without judgment and

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Speaker 1: that there's just an unconditional love there and I'm so grateful.

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Speaker 1: It really is truly one of the friendships. And I'm

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Speaker 1: most grateful for my life. You're my family. I feel

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Speaker 1: the same. And we're going to talk about so much

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Speaker 1: of that because I think, well, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: was it's funny. I was thinking about it before we

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Speaker 1: like roll back to everything. Do you remember when we

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Speaker 1: first met, because I can't remember, like I feel like

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Speaker 1: I've known you my heart. I remember, I remember, I remember,

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Speaker 1: I remember meeting the list girl I've ever met in

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Speaker 1: New York City at Mumba in this lounge upstairs, and

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Speaker 1: I think there was lemon drop shots involved, and and

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Speaker 1: I just I just remember you just had you were

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Speaker 1: so vibrant, and you are so vibrant. You have this

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Speaker 1: timelessness to you and really just the coolest person I

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Speaker 1: it was so beautiful because you guys complimented each other

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Speaker 1: this is this works so beautifully and it's worked all

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Speaker 1: these years, and I just I look at you guys,

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Speaker 1: and I still see us all, you know, in our

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Speaker 1: late teens early twenties. God, I remember that. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because Mumba, Like God, if you were allowed

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Speaker 1: to have your camera in Mumba in those days, that

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's someday much fun. I mean I would

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Speaker 1: say Mumba more than any other place in New York

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Speaker 1: City really summed up my like my best decade of

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Speaker 1: my fun young life right completely. We just had so

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Speaker 1: it's like I have so many like lifelong friends like

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Speaker 1: we all kind of just came together there, which is

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Speaker 1: just I remember, and I remember we go and do

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Speaker 1: were all building our careers. We all supported each other

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Speaker 1: Roger was an investment banker, like totally otherworldly at that point,

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Speaker 1: time because I always tell my team because they know

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Speaker 1: me as being like so serious, such a worker, such

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Speaker 1: but I was also really fun. And I think as

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about that, because you know,

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Speaker 1: who are like, are you actually blood related to Sole

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Speaker 1: you know, it's so incredible. My mom was a single

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Speaker 1: And see, these are the things you don't necessarily know

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Speaker 1: like having this image of you. The power went out

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Speaker 1: And Rachel's like, why are you not just coming over here?

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Speaker 1: I go, Poet, I love it. Is it permanent? And

431
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Speaker 1: she said no, no, no, And I said, did your

432
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Speaker 1: mom scream? She goes, what do you mean? She did

433
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Speaker 1: it for me? I think it's so funny because my

434
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Speaker 1: my girlfriend did it. And then like we would play

435
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Speaker 1: with colors, and I jumped out. It was like it

436
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: was so funny. It's so amazing. I mean, they're really

437
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Speaker 1: incredible kids. And I think to the point about social media,

438
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: like I do think that a really important conversation for

439
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Speaker 1: us to have as families and mothers and fathers. All

440
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Speaker 1: of that is you know, I remember and you see

441
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Speaker 1: it in the documentary that you know I developed really

442
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: rapidly as a teenager, and so I felt this kind

443
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: of you know, everyone would stare at my boobs and

444
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: I was developing so quickly, and so there was this

445
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: like sexualization, you know, and I was yet I was

446
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: so young, you know. And now I look at social

447
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: media and how magnetized it is, and my heart just

448
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: like completely goes out to young people today because at

449
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Speaker 1: that time I was dealing with so many insecurities within

450
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Speaker 1: just my inner circle. Now there's social media, so it's

451
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: times a bazillion, and I think we haven't even scratched

452
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Speaker 1: the surface of what that means to young people's mental health,

453
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Speaker 1: to what ends up happening to them, how their brains

454
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Speaker 1: are developing. And I think that that's one of the

455
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Speaker 1: most important conversations that we should be having, which is,

456
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Speaker 1: you know, how is this affecting young people today and

457
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Speaker 1: their mental state of you know, there's their state of mind.

458
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Speaker 1: I think that should be our next documentary. I mean,

459
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Speaker 1: I think, well, I think having four children gives you

460
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: a really good like focus group there, and I think

461
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Speaker 1: the fact they have two boys and two girls, I mean,

462
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: and my kids are what I mean literally, you know,

463
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: my seven year old's like a sponge and he takes

464
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Speaker 1: everything in and it's like he just absorbs everything he

465
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: wants to. And I'll a lot of times I struggle

466
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Speaker 1: with like, oh, my god has even exposed to me.

467
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Speaker 1: But like he'll hear a hip hop song and then

468
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: he remembers every part of it and then you know,

469
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: and then he'll ask me questions about everything, and I

470
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: want to be honest. And at the same time, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: it's so fascinating because each kid is so different and

472
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: what he picks up on ya is probably totally different

473
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: from another kid just hearing it and not holding on

474
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: to certain things, do you know what I mean. So

475
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: it's it's really like this incredible navigation. Now, how do

476
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Speaker 1: you feel now having four kids and now being taking

477
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Speaker 1: on the hardest role, in my opinion, in the world,

478
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Speaker 1: which is being a single mother, a single working, working

479
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Speaker 1: like an animal mother. Um, it is, it is, it is,

480
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Speaker 1: It is really something. I mean. Do you have such

481
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Speaker 1: a new found respect for your mother, Not that you

482
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Speaker 1: didn't always, but oh my god, I have. I have

483
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Speaker 1: so much respect for every single parent, single grandmother, a

484
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Speaker 1: single single uncle, I mean just anything, you know. Um,

485
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: And I really do lean into the people around me,

486
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Speaker 1: the the extended family, the chosen family, you know, the

487
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: angels that are in my life that helped me because

488
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: I need them. You know I need that sense of

489
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Speaker 1: leaning in and not being afraid. I think so often

490
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: we don't ask qu I mean we want to, we

491
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Speaker 1: want yeah, we want to like take it all on,

492
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: and yet leaning into that and that their their child

493
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: their their childhoods are very different. And also the sacrifices

494
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: they've made for me as an artist, I realize profoundly

495
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: in my search for self, and I just I'm doing

496
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: the best I can and I want them more than

497
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: anything to feel loved, to know that us. I call

498
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: it a transformation. I don't even I can't even think

499
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: of it as a divorce, separation after spending twenty three

500
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: years with someone like this is more of a trans

501
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: information and ultimately, you know, people change and they grow

502
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: in different ways. And I love him so much and

503
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: and really just trying to be there for my kids

504
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: and be the best mom that I can be, and

505
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: also realizing that this has to be a really surreal experience,

506
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: because it's almost like as my kids are coming of age,

507
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm coming of age again and rediscovering my sense of self.

508
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: And so it's this wild thing where I want to

509
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Speaker 1: be respectful for them, and also I'm I'm constantly on

510
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: this search of self discovery, you know, and and I

511
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: and so there's so much wrapped up in it, yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: of course. And then I also I've had this thought

513
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Speaker 1: a lot around what you know about the kind of

514
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Speaker 1: words selfish, right, which is that I feel like so

515
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: much of my life I've been committed towards wanting to

516
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: give to everyone else, and recently, more recently, I've really

517
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Speaker 1: had to also look at what it means to think

518
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Speaker 1: to myself and that self love. And I believe Carl

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Speaker 1: Young said something to the effect of like there's and

520
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get wrong, but there's no greater

521
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Speaker 1: disservice than like the life of the unlived parents something

522
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: along those linds. And I probably didn't say it a

523
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: thousand percent correctly, but the point being that I need

524
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: to set an example for them, and we can be mothers,

525
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: and we can be fathers, and we can be all

526
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: of these things. I think oftentimes we put ourselves last,

527
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, or we think about ourselves last. And I

528
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: think that there is nothing wrong with really going within

529
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: and working on ourselves and taking that time, because they're

530
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: going to look at that and their lives so much

531
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: of it will be based off of how how did

532
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Speaker 1: my parents live? And I know a lot of people

533
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: that stay in relationships that say we're going to do

534
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: it for the kids and a and I'm like, okay,

535
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: but if you're not connecting in that way and they're

536
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Speaker 1: not seeing that level. And I'm not one to judge

537
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Speaker 1: everybody to each person, but for me, I want to, like,

538
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Speaker 1: I want to live a life of fulfillment where they

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Speaker 1: see me and my joy and they also see me

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544
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,680
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545
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Speaker 1: how when someone says something so flippantly but it stays

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Speaker 1: don't always like each other, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And it's like it's like when you say something to

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Speaker 1: your kids like and they go, oh, you hate me.

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Speaker 1: I could never hate you. I love you. I don't

620
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: like your behavior. But I think as a single mother,

621
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Speaker 1: I think it goes back to this big circle of

622
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Speaker 1: And I think when you have a single mother the

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Speaker 1: same way, if you're an only child, you lean on

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630
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Speaker 1: gonna have their own concepts or judgments. I mean, I

631
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Speaker 1: can't tell you how many people are like, are you

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Speaker 1: just having you know, is this a midlife kind of

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Speaker 1: these I don't look at it that way. I think

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Speaker 1: we continue to come of age over and over again

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Speaker 1: as long as we are in our expansion, I agree.

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Speaker 1: And in our expansion that may mean that certain roads

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00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: take us in different directions. Right like after this journey

639
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: of the documentary, I could never be who I was

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Speaker 1: ten years ago or eight years ago. I had unlocked

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00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,239
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Speaker 1: heal through, and I would never want to go back.

644
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: And yet I have so much love for the person

645
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: that I was I have. I watched videos of the

646
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: kids and I and I'm like, oh my god. I

647
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: said to Poet the other day and I started crying.

648
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 1: I said, I'm so hot, and I'll get emotional about

649
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: I said, I'm so happy that I was able to

650
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: give you what you needed the first half of your

651
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: life so that you can be there to help support

652
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: me in this the second half. Because I realize I'm

653
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: not the same mom today that I was ten years ago.

654
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: But you know what different now? Yeah, And yet and

655
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: yet I appreciate it. It's just different. It just looks different.

656
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: And so I was always so afraid have changed my

657
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: whole life. I was. It was one of my biggest fears.

658
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: I was so terrified of change, and so to jump

659
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: into this abyss of the unknown and to overcome that

660
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: fear has been one of the greatest joys of my life.

661
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: It has been one of the most painful experiences, and

662
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: yet it has led to like my own personal expansion,

663
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: and I truly believe my children's expansion because they're looking

664
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: at you know, wow, okay, like life has is a

665
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: roller coaster and there's beautiful moments and there's painful moments,

666
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: but it's real, you know what I mean? And the

667
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: hundred person I actually think that that the big problem

668
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: comes when everything is hidden from your children and then

669
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: they go into real life and they're like, what, I'm

670
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: not prepared for that? What conflict? What like? Not everything's perfect?

671
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Not everything, Not every problem is solved for me. My

672
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: parents can actually cry, my parents can feel pain, you know,

673
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: And I do think that that's the difference in this generation.

674
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: I think for us we are different parents than our

675
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: parents were. And as magical and incredible as my parents

676
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: were and are still to this day, I think we

677
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: learn I think we're honest with our kids now, more

678
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: honest about who we are, and I think it's really important.

679
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: And I do think that there is this conversation now

680
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: and I'm hearing it more and more about there's no

681
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: more important relationship than the one with yourself and very

682
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: much like you, Oh, it's always about everyone else, So

683
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: it's about my kids, so he's about Roger, it's always

684
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: about this, So it's about that. And I think when

685
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: you actually think about am I happy? What is it

686
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: that I need to be happy? Because I ultimately, if

687
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: you don't have that relationship with yourself and that honest

688
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: truth with yourself, that person you're putting out every day

689
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: is this like fake, manufactured person and you're numb, and

690
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: eventually I think that just explodes. And I think to

691
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: your point, I think you having these four magical kids,

692
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: and I think you working as hard as you do.

693
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I sat there. For me, the biggest takeaway from Thanksgiving

694
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: was sitting with Poet and Jagger as these like young, confident, independent,

695
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: cool as hell women, like young women. It was surreal

696
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: for me because you know, when they're these cute little girls,

697
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: it just always come over. And you know the boys

698
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: are the boys. They're still so little, so they're just

699
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: like the wild children of SOLEI that are these magical

700
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: little beings. And they're spirited and story looks like you

701
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: running around with banana curls and like, you know, I

702
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: just talking to the girls. For me was like, huh

703
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: so if I had a girl, this is what could happen.

704
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: Where like you talk to them, I'm like, they're your

705
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: best friends. Like I was talking to them as if

706
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: they were our age, you know. And by the way,

707
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: so they like what you've been through, what they've been around,

708
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: moving schools, just this that, and they're just like they're

709
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: just rolling. They're just free spirited and rolling. And to me,

710
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: I walked away with like, wow, so this is what happens.

711
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: Like you have a free spirited mom that just lives

712
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: this very honest life, and this is what can happen.

713
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: These magical children come out and come away from a

714
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: situation that you know can be challenging. But I think

715
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I just think the way you handled all of everything

716
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: that's happened in your marriage that's happened over time, I

717
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: think has been and I'm sure there's so many moments

718
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: of tears, you know that happened. I'm sure, but you're human,

719
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: and I think that it is okay to recognize I'm different.

720
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm now honest with myself. We're not connected in the

721
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: same way. We're like, that's okay, right, because Jason could

722
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: be a great dad and you could be this incredible

723
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: mom and to do it together. That's the craziest part.

724
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not for a lack of love, do

725
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's what's so wild,

726
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean is that there's so much

727
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: love there, and I think that so often makes it

728
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: even harder. Right, It's like when you when you when

729
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: there's so much love and you go wow, But we're

730
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: just so different now, you know, and yet by the way,

731
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: way more how we were when we first met. It's

732
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: just like it's so fascinating. So there's that, and you

733
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: know it's interesting. I love what you said, you know

734
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: about us looking at ourselves. My god mom always says,

735
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: she says, we come in on our own and we

736
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: go out on our own, right, and so who is

737
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: that person that we come in as and we go

738
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: out as? And And my my dear friend recently said

739
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: something so beautiful as she is also going through it transformation.

740
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: And she said, I don't know that I really knew

741
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: who you know was at that time. And so it

742
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: is this this this discovery which is incredible, and this

743
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: rediscovery and also feeling that feeling. I had this thing

744
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: where I had such a spark in me as a teenager,

745
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I think for a lot of years

746
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: I associated that spark with youth totally. And through the

747
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: process of this healing and this Catharsis of the documentary,

748
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I started to feel that spark again and I realized

749
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: that is part of being in in in our purpose,

750
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: in our spiritual purpose, our creative purpose, just feeling that

751
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: aliveness and and um and Sean, who has you know,

752
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: is truly one of the greatest influences of myself in

753
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: my life. For our listeners, when she said Sean, she

754
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: means Champen Just so you know, I think I think

755
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: when my baby sat her or something and they were little. Yeah,

756
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: he said, I have known him since I was about

757
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: eight years old, and my dad would take me to

758
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: see his play, you know, and all that. And he

759
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: said to thy own self, and I think so much

760
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: of these years have been you know, to really to

761
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: thy own self, and we have guilt about that, right,

762
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: so like we we have guilt. If I there's something

763
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: everyone goes what do you do for self care? What

764
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: is self care? Are you okay? Like what? But it's

765
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: funny because I actually feel in those moments where I'm like, okay,

766
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm getting a man manicure, petticare right and like a

767
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: neck massage, and the whole process takes like an hour

768
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: and a half start to finish, right, I have to

769
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: be doing other things in that time, or I feel

770
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: guil guilty. What are you doing? You don't have time

771
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: for this? Are you okay? The kids need you, your

772
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: team needs you, get on it, and and I don't

773
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: know that that like that's not okay. And that's why

774
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 1: whenever people ask me that an interview, I'm like, I'm

775
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: not proud of this. I'm terrible at the self love

776
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: and self care and that for me, like I feel

777
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: like my my thing, my wish that I would I

778
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: would like to work on over the next like five years.

779
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: Is like trying to not feel guilty about thinking we

780
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: can meditate on it, little post it it's so meditate.

781
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Do you know what I do? I start cracking up.

782
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I just I have so many good things you can

783
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: listen to. I think it's part of us manifesting, you know,

784
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: the love within us and around us, because I think

785
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: so often also you know, I know, at least for

786
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: me as a teenager and watching the tapes, I was

787
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: so dependent on the love around me and that need

788
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: to feel loved, and I was so insecure and just

789
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: wanting to be accepted. And so to get to a

790
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: stage that took you know, over forty years to feel

791
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: enough self love where I feel confident to to really

792
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: I feel confident to do what I love, to be

793
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: passionate about what I love to to to be able

794
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: to look within myself and feel good. And by the way,

795
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: there's there's a mistake or you know, there's there's the

796
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: contrasting experiences that when I look at them, I go wow,

797
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: like I really, you know, I've made choices that perhaps

798
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: have hurt others, and to own that and to still

799
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: go okay, yet I need to love myself, um, because

800
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: then you're not dependent on everyone else's approval and our

801
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: confidence in our what we can do and what we

802
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: can accomplish, you know what I mean? Instead of there

803
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: was a long time where I think so often we

804
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: hold people on pedestals or we look at other people,

805
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's so easy to compare

806
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: ourselves to others. To get to a place where we're

807
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: not constantly doing that is really amazing. So okay, So

808
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: that brings me to my last question, which is your

809
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: last one? I mean, I could ask you, tempilly, I

810
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: can ask you about a million. A lot of people

811
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: say that we change from our younger selves over time?

812
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: Do you think that's true or false? Like for you

813
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: do you think a thousand percent? And I think it

814
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: goes You know, one of my favorite books, the Four Agreements,

815
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: that talks about you know, the programming and and not

816
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: to make assumptions. Great book. I highly recommend it. I

817
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: really love it. And I think so much comes from

818
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: the programming and And there were so many years that

819
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: I just had so much insecurity. Am I good enough?

820
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: Am I pretty enough? Am I talented? And not? But

821
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: do you think thought of us as being girl teenagers?

822
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Because how much as a kid. As a kid, I

823
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: was this like, oh I'm you. I felt so self

824
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: unto as soon as I started going through puberty and

825
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: feeling judgment from others, and all of that. It's just

826
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: like my my, you know, I just started like turning

827
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: inside and so I think the camera for me was

828
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: this protective device, like I just documented and turn it

829
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: on everyone else. Then I somehow can protect myself in

830
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: this in this way, you know, which is interesting and

831
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: so so over the years that programming. You know, a

832
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: perfect example of that is when we were rebooting when

833
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: I call it a continuation doing Punky again, and the

834
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: night that we were doing our live taping, I had

835
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: a full blown panic attack. And my dear friend to

836
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: me who has like who I don't mean to I

837
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: don't mean to Jo who brought my four children into

838
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: the world. I just want to say that when Sole

839
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: says celebrities like Sean and champenn and to me and

840
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: to me more, she's the most not name droppy, not celebrity.

841
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: These actually are people she's been surrounded by since she

842
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: was a child, so they are her actual family. But

843
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: she has many, many friends that are not at all

844
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: known or famous. I don't want to I just want

845
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: to share that, Yes, I feel like I have the

846
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: same friends since I was little. But she turned to

847
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: me because she came to support me that night and

848
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: she and we sat there and she said, what are

849
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: you afraid of? And it was one of the most

850
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: profound experiences that I've had. And I said, the little

851
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: girl that doesn't feel like she's good enough, the teenager

852
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't feel like she's pretty enough, the teenager that

853
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: doesn't know if she can do it, the kid that's

854
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: afraid that I could follow on my face. And once

855
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: I got it all out and just said all the

856
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: things I was afraid of, she looked at me and

857
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: she goes, now, you can release it, all right, And

858
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: I let go of it, and I'll start crying thinking

859
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: about it, because then I went on to stage that night,

860
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: and it was like lightning in a bottle, Like I

861
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: was able to release so much of those insecurities that

862
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 1: were so deep rooted. And so I think that we

863
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: are who we are, and so often the programming of

864
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: the world around us, we start to believe those things.

865
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: It's like the kid. You know, there's this story in

866
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: that book where the kids this singer and love singing,

867
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: and the mom is kind of like, oh, can you

868
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: be quiet that kind of thing right, like, you know,

869
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: and so they start to not believe that they're an

870
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: incredible singer, Right, Like, what happens from the world around

871
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: us that we just start eating up all of this

872
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: programming and then we become, you know, shadows of ourselves

873
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: or you know or whatever. We don't do the shadow

874
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: work or whatever, we become shells of who we once were.

875
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: And so I think so much of at least for me,

876
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: this journey at this stage in my life, is reprogramming

877
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: those false beliefs to who I really am, which is

878
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: who I've always been and who we come into the

879
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: world as, so that when I go out of the world,

880
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm back to my authentics. Right. So it's like we

881
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: don't change at the core, but I think the things

882
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: that happen in our life affect how they come out

883
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: and change us and our perception. Agree. Yes, One other

884
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: thing was through the videos, like I had this kind

885
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: of concept around one of my first loves and I

886
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: was like, I'm so crazy about him, and I didn't

887
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: see the love back, And it wasn't just the love

888
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: back from him, but the love back from all of

889
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: these people who I had just had these ideas around

890
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: in my head. And once I did the interviews with

891
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: these lifelong friends and I realized oh wait a second.

892
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: Not only did I love them, but there was that

893
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: love back. I think we're so often not aware of

894
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: the love that is around us and how loved we

895
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: really are. And it's like taking those blinders off, and

896
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: that I think is so much of the work that

897
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm super interested in doing a stage in my life.

898
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: It's so it's amazing. So it's amazing to watch. And

899
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because when I walked into Thanksgiving,

900
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: I realized there was a guy in the corner the

901
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: whole time with a video camera and I did, you know,

902
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: it's funny, Like I think Roger and I like noticed

903
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: it and did we didn't even blink. We didn't even

904
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: think about it. I didn't even ask about it. I

905
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: just was like, I feel like she just journals her

906
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: life and this is like one of the journal in

907
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: my life. And literally, I mean it's again and it's

908
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: so well but it's it's it's constant. It's like I'm

909
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: in the midst of doing this documentary now, where if

910
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: I had taken the time again to be in a

911
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: place of like, oh my god, I've got to get

912
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: like set it up and da and pitch it like

913
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: this whole journey the last seven months has been so

914
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: incredible and leads to like one of my journeys and

915
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: like I just am like I gotta keep documenting because

916
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: it's like okay, so now, so like what happened? So okay,

917
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: where do you see yourself in twenty years or ten

918
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: years or five years? You don't have to answer it

919
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: because for me, when people start, it's very hard, but

920
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: so first and foremost my children, my family and and

921
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: the love around me. I love being of service to others.

922
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: You know how much I love to work with CORE.

923
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: It has been the work next to my children that

924
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm most proud of. You can you give our listeners.

925
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: I've mentioned CORE before, but I do want to speak

926
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: to it because I've been involved since the beginning because

927
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: of Sole and of course Champan who who founded it.

928
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: But I do want to mention that because I think

929
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: it's important that our listeners know and know how they

930
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: can donate, how they can get involved, how extraordinary this

931
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: organization is. Thank you. So we're a disaster relief organization

932
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: and when disaster strikes, we jump in. Um. We were

933
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: formed after the earthquake in Haiti and when I first

934
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: joined we had, you know, there's sixty five thousand people

935
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: living in a tense city. Um, Sean had dove in

936
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: as people were rushing out of hate. He went in

937
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: and um, it's it's co founded by Sean, Penn and Lee.

938
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: And for those of you who think Sean just called

939
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: it in, he was living there. Yes, absolutely, And since

940
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: then those sixty five thousand people have moved into sustainable homes.

941
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: Um we go wherever, wherever disaster every really yeah, I

942
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: mean absolutely Arico, I mean we're now global, Brazil, Venezuela.

943
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: And when COVID nineteen hit, we immediately jumped into action.

944
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: We set up testing sites across the country. We worked

945
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Fire Department in Garcetti at the

946
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium site. We've vaccinated over two million people. We've

947
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: done testing on over six million people. Were a global

948
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: disaster relief organization that you know, dives in when when

949
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: it's incest strikes. So it's it's been incredible. We're in India, Brazil, Venezuela,

950
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, just a cross the board and uh and

951
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm so proud to be a part of it. When

952
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: the Carolinas were hit, you know, and we just go

953
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: wherever we're needed. Essentially, it's so extraordinary. You guys should

954
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: where can they go? So they just so you can

955
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: go to core response dot org and you will find

956
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm so incredibly impressed by the word and you can

957
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: follow us social media and stuff. Oh yeah, thank you.

958
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it's amazing. So I'm so

959
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: grateful for that. So I see myself continuing to be

960
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: of service to others with my children as well, and

961
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: and to be continuing to document and make art. And

962
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: I love being behind the camera. I still love acting,

963
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: I love directing. I just I just want to make

964
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: I want to continue making art that's meaningful and that

965
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: that has purpose and that can help shed light on

966
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: everything from mental health to um to love, you know,

967
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: love love stories to history and continue to share stories.

968
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: I think our stories are really really important and that

969
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: everyone has an important story to tell. I agree. One

970
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: hundred percent of my wish for you is that you

971
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: continue to spread your light to everybody else because you do.

972
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: That's what you do, and I love you and I

973
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: feel the same about you, and I just I want

974
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: to say, I mean, you really truly have been just

975
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: the best friend, family and I'll never forget. I'll never

976
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: forget our calls as I was going through this transformation,

977
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: and it's so incredible because you two are just this

978
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: incredibly shiny, sparkly beautiful being and and you take it

979
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: all in and you were observing everything, and you made

980
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: me feel like the steps I was taking were okay,

981
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: you know. And and there was other there was other

982
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: people that didn't always make me feel that way, and

983
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: that there was a fear coming in and I And

984
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: then there's the people that build you out of love.

985
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: I think there's people and both are important teachers out

986
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: of fear and love. I like, I really love leaning

987
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: into love. And You've always made me feel so loved

988
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: and not judged, and I really listen. The one thing

989
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: I know that I do have is an instinct, and

990
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: I can I can sometimes see things a little bit

991
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: like a camera sometimes. And I think, at the end

992
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: of the day, what I truly believe is that two

993
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: parents are happy. I think that's what children need, is

994
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: two parents that are happy. And if they're together, happy

995
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: apart happy. But I think whatever it is, it makes

996
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: them better parents, whatever they are. And I think, you know,

997
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: children just want to be loved right, and your children

998
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: are all want to be loved. We all want to

999
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: be loved, right. And I love you madly and I

1000
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: just want you to keep spreading your life. I love

1001
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: you so much, and I'm going to see this. I

1002
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: love you. I love you. I love you so much. Okay,

1003
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: So Sleih is one of my favorite people in the world,

1004
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: and as you may have been able to tell in

1005
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: just this podcast, that she's this ray of sunshine that

1006
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: just spreads light wherever she goes and she's just magical.

1007
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: But I think what she shared was so important because

1008
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: I actually think we've never done it before. But I

1009
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: think we've never talked about what's considered to be the

1010
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: most important relationship of all, which is the one with ourselves.

1011
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure I don't know a single person

1012
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: that doesn't need to work on that relationship. Myself very

1013
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: much included in that. So my biggest takeaways from this

1014
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: episode was of course learning even more how deeply authentic, genuine, kind,

1015
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: and magical Soleih is. But I think also having lived

1016
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: the life that she's lived, just coming to that place

1017
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: of being honest with yourself, being truthful, and just loving

1018
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: yourself for all the good in the bad and stop

1019
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: feeling guilty about maybe putting yourself first now and then.

1020
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: So that that was my biggest learning of this week.

1021
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: I hope you guys really loved this episode because I

1022
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: personally would say it to me one of my all

1023
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: time favorites. But if you liked what you've heard so far,

1024
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: please make sure you're subscribed on Apple Podcasts and give

1025
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: us a rating and a review, and keep listening and

1026
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: check us out on our Instagram at atworks dot for

1027
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: dot us. I do want to mention also if you

1028
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: have not seen Soley's documentary Kid ninety, it is extraordinary

1029
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: and you will want to watch it again and again

1030
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: and again and probably learn a lot, not just about

1031
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: that industry, the industry of acting and entertainment in the nineties,

1032
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: but also I think just I don't know. I think

1033
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: it's just a It's a great learning and great thing

1034
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: to watch. So there's now a works for Us phone

1035
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1036
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1037
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Speaker 1: to share our favorites on the podcast. You can also

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Speaker 1: ask us for a relationship advice. Although I cannot stress

1039
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: enough we are not experts, but we'll still take your questions,

1040
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: so if you want to share your story or ask

1041
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,040
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