1 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Listen up, listen up, everyone's thinking it. I'm gonna say, 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: if we weren't smack Guy in the middle of a 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: very publicized and high profile gas station recruiting war on 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: this show, would the Big twelve or any of the 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: conference for that pattern, even have the audacity to go 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: out there and shot their own naming rights? 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: And the answer is no, But it's happening. 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Late Kick is live High Top, a jam packed and 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: vibrant downtown Nashville, Tennessee. It's Thursday, June thirteenth, year of 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: Our Lord, twenty twenty four. That means in a mere 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: thirty six or so hours, I will be firing off. 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: The Saturday morning Cornfield tweet that we are eleven Saturdays 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: away from kickoff and that doesn't count week zero. For 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: those of you who always ask you guys, not you 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: the listener or the viewer, but you guys in the 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: college football administrative ecospehere you let Brett your mark off 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: the hook. 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: I told you not too. 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: I dropped easter eggs all over the show that they 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: were up to something out there, and now you found 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: out what. 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna talk about it. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Yes, if you've been at work today, if you've been 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: living your life, you may not be aware that there's 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: like a seismic sort of ground shift out there in 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: the heartland. America's conference is making moves aka the Big twelve. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I've got some college football playoff stuff with the SEC 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: to talk about. I asked you, guys earlier today, how 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: many teams is the SEC going to get in this thing? Three? Four, five, eight? 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: Some of you think two, three, We'll see. 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: I think there is. 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: A big fork in the road and we could call 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: divergent paths here based on how the SEC is handled 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff this year. Of course, we've 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: got bull predictions on the show tonight. Of course we've 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: got huge questions on the show tonight. I'm gonna do 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the Colorado Mood Tracker for. 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: The fan base. 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go very deep inside my own personal heart 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: and soul on how I feel about conference championship games 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: and whether they're still needed. And you know I don't 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: do these kinds of segments lightly, so are they still needed? 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: And the conundrum you also know how rarely I use 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: that word that we could have on our hands this 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: very year, guys, in a few months, we could have 46 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: a great, big mess, an ethical dilemma of sorts on 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: our hands. So we got a jam Pack show tonight. 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: They're watching us in Box Springs, Georgia, Pioneer, Ohio, Richmond, Virginia, 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Santa Cruz, California, which is just up the coast, a 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: few hours from Los Angeles, where we will be next week, 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: which I don't think I've announced. Yeah, we're gonna do 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: the show live from LA next week Tuesday. Someone tell 53 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: usc we'll be in town. You guys want to hook 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: up for lunch, we'll be in town. But yeah, we'll 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: be uh at Elite eleven and I'll talk more about 56 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: that Sunday night. I don't have time to talk about 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: that tonight because we got a jam Pack show tonight. 58 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: So here we go. The Big tu twelve is all 59 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: over the news. I woke up this morning and hadn't 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: even put my contact lens in and just glanced at 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: the eye Josh, and there it is Uncle Dennis breaking news, 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve considering private equity investment in exchange for 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: twenty percent share of the league. Well hoops to amongst us, 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: could have seen this coming. Also several others throughout the day. 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: The Dellingers, the famils of the World, et cetera, et cetera. 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: They ended up breaking the news that not only was 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: that happening, but guess what else the Big twelve is doing. 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: The Big Twelve also having the audacity to shop naming rights. 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: So it may not just be the Big twelve anymore. 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: It could be the fill in the blank Big twelve, 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: or it could be the fill in the blank conference 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: period because they haven't had twelve teams in that thing 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: since like twenty eleven anyway, So is the number really 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: all that important? What do I tell you guys? From 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: time to time, I speak in coded language and I 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: admit that, and I tell you what I can when 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: I can, But I tell you you're not wasting your 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: time watching the show. Okay, So sometimes I have to 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: do it in the form of easter eggs because the 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: trade off for people trusting you with information is they 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: tell you shut up and don't tell anyone this. And 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: it sucks because I wish I could just tell you 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: everything we hear behind the scenes. But one of you, actually, 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: like fifty of you, picked up on this today when 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: this news broke. You said, hold on, wait a second, 86 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: this sounds like something I heard. Oh, I don't know 87 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: over the past six months. Roll it, Colin. Let me 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: give you one piece of advice though. There's a little 89 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: shark fin just offshore, and it's spread your mark the 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: commissioner of the Big Twelve. And just a little word 91 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: to the wys out there. I don't know how wise 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: the folks are we're talking to, but just a little 93 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: word to the wise. Don't let that guy get any traction. 94 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: Don't let Brett your mark find his footing. You better 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: keep your foot on their neck. 96 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: Now. I am rooting for the alternative. 97 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: I am rooting for the Big Twelve to continue to 98 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: against all odds, continue to rise. They shouldn't even be 99 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: alive right now. Think it would be very very pennywise 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: pound foolish to let that guy, who truth be told 101 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: on equal footing could probably run circles around all of you. 102 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: It would be very very penny wise pound foolish to 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: let him get his feet and his conference get its 104 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: feet under it. They are finding their footing, friends, They're 105 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: finding their footing by the day. Now here's how this 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: is supposed to work. The SEC and the Big Ten 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: are supposed to be behemoths and the rest of you. 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: You're just supposed to fade into the abyss. That's what 109 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. Some have acquiesced. Example, where is 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve tonight? Does anyone see the PAC twelve tonight? No, 111 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: you can find the PAC twelve on the back of 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: a milk cart and at the grocery store. The Big 113 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Twelve has chosen a different tact because they found someone 114 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: who has existed in this world long before he actually 115 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: came into this world. Brett Yormark has executed seven eight 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: nine figure deals in other walks of life, long before 117 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: he ever got here. Now, there are several ways to 118 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: think about this. And I know ninety eight percent of 119 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: you just want to watch the games on Saturday, so 120 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: I always view it through that lens. How does this 121 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: impact you? Well, a lot of people heard these reports today. Okay, 122 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: keep in mind you got two of them. One of 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: them ooh, private equity. There's a knock on the door. 124 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: Private Equity could be coming into the Big twelve. And 125 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: then there's the Big Twelve could sell their naming rights 126 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: to All State and be called the All State Big 127 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Twelve Conference. Well, it's all the same, Josh, it's not 128 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: close to the same thing. Now, it is true enough 129 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: that this is all about the revenue gap. And if 130 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: you just started watching college football like thirty seconds ago, 131 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: and this is all confusing, let me simplify it for you. 132 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: The SEC in the Big Ten got a whole lot 133 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: of money. The Big twelve does not. In fact, the 134 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: rest of the conferences in college football do not. The 135 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: SEC and the Big Ten make all that money because 136 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: they've got nine tenths of the most valuable properties in 137 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: the sport that most people want to watch. And they're 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: all wearing SEC or Big Ten stickers on the back 139 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: of their helmets. And the rest is very, very sparse 140 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: out there. There are people like us, frankly, a lot 141 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: of folk to watch this show who love the sport. 142 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: We love college football, so we'll be dialed into Kansas 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: State versus Iowa State. But the more casual crowd out there, 144 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: and yes, you have to tailor your marketing strategy to them, 145 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: they're not as attracted to Oklahoma State versus Texas Tech 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: as they would be Penn State versus Ohio State, or 147 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Ole Miss versus Alabama. 148 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: We all understand that. So what do you do? 149 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Well, you can, like I said, do what the Pac 150 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: twelve did and fumble your way into irrelevance and eventual extinction. 151 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: Or you can get creative and you can innovate, you 152 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: can think outside the box and you can define what 153 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Big twelve strategy is, and Big twelve strategy, if it's 154 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: going to succeed, has to look way different. So two 155 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: different things going on here. They are not the same thing. 156 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: One of them is as simple as selling basically the 157 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: right to put a sticker on the side of your conference. 158 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: And if All State wants to pony up the money, 159 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: if State Farm wants to pony up the money, hop 160 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: Tarts wants to pony up the money, go for it. 161 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: But that's the long and short of that. That private 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: equity game is a little bit different ballgame. Now, there 163 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: are admittedly a lot of people who watch this show. 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I know because I converse with you behind the scenes, 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: who know a lot more about that world than I do. 166 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: I have dipped my toe in it because I own 167 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: this brand, and so this brand has skyrocketed in value. 168 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: Now it's not the Big twelve, it's not a college 169 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: football conference. But I've had conversations about that, so I know, 170 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: like a little sliver of an inkling about it, but 171 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't know it to the degree Bret your Mark does. Now, 172 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: there are other people who, in other walks of life 173 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: are very familiar with this, and they know. For example, 174 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: if you're reading headlines from one Dennis Dodd that suggests 175 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: the Big twelve is exploring a massive private equity infusion 176 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: of cash, which is just what this is. It's an 177 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: infusion of cash in exchange for a twenty percent stake, 178 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: a fifth stake in your conference. Here's how my mind works. 179 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: My mind says, Okay, well, that's great you get in 180 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: the short term, but in the long term, don't you 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: own twenty percent less of all the revenue that's gonna 182 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: come your way? 183 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: The answer is obviously yes. 184 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: So then the follow up in my mind is, Okay, 185 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: with that cash infusion, do you have it within your 186 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: power to increase the value of your product enough to 187 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: where you overcome only making eighty percent of your revenue 188 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: because it would have been one hundred percent. So, in 189 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: other words, are you making up the ground above and 190 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: beyond what it's costing you. 191 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: To take that cash infusion. 192 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: I think they've got a plan. I don't know what 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: it is. I think it's very very important to note 194 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: right now we don't know the full scope of this. 195 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Brett you or Mark snartan not an idiot, That's what 196 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: I do know. So Brette or Mark has forgotten things 197 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: about this thing that not only we don't know, we 198 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: aren't even privy to yet. So I'm in the wait 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: and see approach on that, but it should be noted 200 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: SEC Commissioner Greg Sinki has weighed in quote, there are 201 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: cautionary tales about private equity out there. I've had half 202 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: a dozen or more meetings with representatives, all good people, 203 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: all learning opportunities, but I think people have to exercise 204 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: a level of care before just jumping in. It was 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: unclear as to whether that strategy is supposed to exist 206 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to conferenceory alignment. Seems the SEC jump 207 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: pretty quick at Texas and Oklahoma. 208 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: But I digress. 209 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Like I said at the beginning, the 210 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: Big twelve is not going to sit back and just 211 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: accept their role. It's very easy to say that from 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: the top of the mountain. By the way, no disrespect 213 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: to Greg sank you, but it's very easy to say 214 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: that from the top of the mountain. They don't have 215 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: many other options in the Big Twelve because of their mentality. 216 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: See if their mentality was to just accept irrelevance, accept 217 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: B tier status, second class citizenship, it'd be okay. They 218 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: you just take the scraps. They're not really interested in that. 219 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: They're interested, believe it or not, in the Big Twelve 220 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: in remaining viable as one of the power conferences in 221 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: college football. And you know what, I'm not crazy about 222 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: private equity coming into this sport at all. But I 223 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: almost have to separate that and say good on you 224 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: for trying. Good on you for not just basically bending 225 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: a knee to the Big ten or bending the knee 226 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: to the SEC and saying, yes, sir, what can we have? 227 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: Like what will you let us be? Forget about what 228 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: they'll let you be? Go be whoever you can be 229 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: us army. So I get where the Big Twelve's head's at. 230 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I despise at a cellular level that college athletics has 231 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: come to this once again. Not the naming rights thing. 232 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: The naming rights thing is small potatoes compared to what 233 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: the private equity thing is. So the private equity thing 234 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: is boring. 235 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: To talk about. 236 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to spend any more time on that. 237 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: But I do want to just touch on this whole 238 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: naming rights thing because that's what garnered a majority of 239 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: your attention today when you saw this headline. Because when 240 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: you saw this headline, you didn't care about minority equity stakes. 241 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: You didn't care about return on investment. That's what parents 242 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: talk about, not us many of you are. But nevertheless, 243 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: we don't like talking about that stuff. 244 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: It's boring. 245 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: What do we like talking about? Well, we like talking 246 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: about naming rights. Who's gonna buy the naming rights? And 247 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: as you know, okay, we can't have nice things around here. 248 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: We could have had what a Burger come in and 249 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: name it the what a Conference? Nope, not gonna happen. 250 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: We could have had Pop Tart come in and just 251 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: name them the Pop twelve. 252 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: Nope, can't have that. What do we get? All State? 253 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: That's the leading candidate apparently in the clubhouse All State. 254 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: I got nothing against all State. But if you guys 255 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: seriously go and try and make that thing the All 256 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: State twelve or the All State Conference. And this is 257 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: not me speculating, this is being reported from multiple reputable 258 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: sources that that's the leader in the clubhouse I will 259 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: switch to State Farm. Out of spite getting that out 260 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: of me, I still call x Twitter. So if I'm 261 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: still calling x Twitter, you better believe I'm calling the 262 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: Big Twelve the Big twelve over some random, sanitized corporate 263 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: name that is not fun. There's nothing fun about all State. 264 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: All State would be smart to buy the naming rights 265 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: and then have some fun with the rights that they've purchased. 266 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Having said that, I'm not running marketing. I'm not consulting 267 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: for All State, although I think it would be a 268 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: half decent investment on their part, But I'm not running 269 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: a consulting firm right quick. But I did want to 270 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: show you what Landen came up with, because there was 271 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: some good stuff floating around the Internet today. Landing just 272 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: at the Big twelve conference, hear me out, he brings 273 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: Southwest into the equation. Southwest Airlines not exactly flush and 274 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: cash at the moment from what I understand, But in 275 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: an alternate universe, you bring Southwest Airlines in and you 276 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: just rename that thing the Southwest Conference. As I said, 277 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: when I saw that, you guys might as well pack 278 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: it in. No one will do better than Landing today. 279 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: The Southwest Conference that's what we need. All due respect, 280 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: we don't need the All State twelve. Give me the 281 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: Southwest Conference, give me the Pop Tart twelve. Can we please, 282 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: for once in our lives, have some fun with the 283 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: greatest sport in the world. Can we please do that? 284 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: Welcome aboard, Happy to have you guys here. It is 285 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: a Thursday night. As I speak to you live, I 286 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: know that I kind of hinted at the idea that 287 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: we may have had a Tuesday show because I was 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: gonna go storm chasing. And then I said, no, We're 289 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: gonna do a Thursday show, but I'm still going storm chasing. 290 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: I woke up Wednesday morning, we were all set to 291 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: fly to Minneapolis, and I didn't like the profile. I 292 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: just didn't like the setup, so we abandoned the chase. 293 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Forgive me read Timor, who ended up intercepting a tornado 294 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: a little north of Minneapolis. 295 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: I just I didn't. 296 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't feeling it. I wasn't feeling it. 297 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: So there will be other days. June looks to be 298 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: incredibly active over the Upper Plains, so storm chasing season 299 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: not over. But that's why there was a precious lack 300 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: of storm chasing content in the Instagram story which half 301 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: of you are following on Instagram now for at late 302 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: kick Josh. 303 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: But don't worry, it's not over. It's not over. 304 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Air conditioning in our studio is over for tonight, but 305 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: that is not over. Half my notes fell off the table. 306 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't need them. That's not that's not 307 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: a message for you, Jesse. I really don't need them. 308 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: So I've got I've got a little ethical dilemma. I'm 309 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna need your help with it, to be honest. 310 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: So let's just dive into this. I've got ongoing debates 311 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: with several friends on a couple of different issues with 312 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: conference championship games. So let me just pitch it to you, like, 313 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: where's your mind on Conference Championship Games? 314 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: Right now? 315 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't need you, guys, if you're watching live to 316 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: look in the live chat. I want you to think 317 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: for yourself. Everyone, think for yourself before you look at 318 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: the comments. Where's your head on Conference Championship Games? I've 319 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: always loved them. I grew up, you know, like I 320 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: grew up in the two thousands, nineties, two thousands, so 321 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: they were around. I think the SEC started theirs in 322 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: ninety two. The concept of a conference championship game, in 323 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: other words, has always been around in my lifetime. Some 324 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: of you are a little more seasoned and you remember 325 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: a time long before conference championship games existed. The Big 326 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: twelves or the Big tens rather, isn't even fifteen years old. 327 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: So two things. Here's where my conundrum is. Two things. 328 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: Number One, this year are we going to have rivalry 329 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: game rematches in conference championship games? There are five opportunities 330 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: for that to happen. By the way, three rivalry rematch opportunities. 331 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Think about this, Michigan Ohio State has played the last 332 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: Saturday of the year. They could play that thing against 333 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: six days later Auburn and Alabama. Less likely, but still 334 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: point remains. They play that game the last week of 335 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: the year. That could turn around and be played in 336 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: the SEC championship game. Texas at Texas A and M 337 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: is played and could be played again one week later 338 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: in the conference championship game. Now, why is this all 339 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden an issue now? Whereas it used to 340 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: not be? 341 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: Well? 342 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: First off, Texas and Texas A and M hadn't even 343 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: been in the same conference until this year. Auburn, Alabama 344 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: and Michigan Ohio State were in the same divisions for 345 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: a long time, so it was impossible for the rematch 346 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: to happen. We are doing away with divisions in both 347 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: conferences starting this year, but we're not changing the schedule, 348 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: so therefore we have a potential issue on our hands. 349 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, some of you don't think it's 350 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: an issue. I've found out now many more of you 351 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: agree with me than I thought would agree with me, 352 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: So I take some comfort in that. But here's what 353 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm asking. What I'm asking is, firstly, Michigan Ohio State, 354 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: let's say they play It is the greatest rivalry in 355 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: college football, some say the greatest rivalry in sports. I've 356 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: been at the last three games. It is an unbelievable environment. 357 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: And I wasn't weren't into the rivalry, so I just 358 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: observe it from afar. What if they play that and 359 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: it has all the urgency and all the build up 360 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: and all the drama and the hype and the over 361 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: the cliff facing the fan, zero margin for error, you 362 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: know aura about it. But what if we get that 363 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: this year and we already know they're gonna play the 364 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: game again six days later. There are two schools of 365 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: thought on this, and I cannot buy into the other one. 366 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: The first school of thought is you can't possibly have 367 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: that situation and maintain maximum urgency on the original game. 368 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: You can't. You can absolutely cannot. That's my school of thought. 369 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: The other school of thought is more of a good 370 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: thing is a good thing? Well, if it's awesome one week, 371 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: it'll be awesome if they play it again a week later, 372 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: but it won't be as awesome. There's no logical way 373 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: for you to convince me that. If I'm watching Michigan 374 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Ohio State and the entire week leading up to it, 375 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna play again no matter what, seven 376 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: days later, six days later, and it feels the same. 377 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: There's no possible way. 378 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: The most traditional purest in the world, in other words, 379 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: me couldn't even say, oh, don't worry, it won't lose 380 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: its relevance. So that's the first issue that we could 381 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: potentially have. 382 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: The second issue I have baked into that first issue is. 383 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: I don't care that the following week would have a 384 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: conference championship on the line. I don't care that the 385 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: following week would have a first round by and the 386 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: playoff on the line. I don't care that playoff implications 387 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: are riding more on the second game than the original, 388 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: because the original means more to me. This is where 389 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I think some are just going to disagree with me. 390 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: But let me tell you where I come from. I 391 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: come from a place in my mind. I come from 392 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: a place where the regular season of college football is 393 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: it for me, and everything else is just kind of 394 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: cherry on top. It is what it is, but it's 395 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: the regular season for me. There's nothing like it in sports. 396 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: And within the regular season we have rivalries. And within 397 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: that small cluster of rivalries, we have certain ones like 398 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan that are second to none, and they've 399 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: played that thing for over a century without fail. It delivers. 400 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: The hype is unmatched, the urgency, the intensity, just the pure, 401 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: unadultterated hatred is unmatched. I grew up in the South. 402 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know it because I wasn't immersed in it. 403 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: I watched it from a distance. But I've witnessed it 404 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: three years in a row. I've witnessed that. Some would 405 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: say maybe I'm a good luck charm for Michigan. I 406 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: don't want to suggest that. I don't want to suggest that. 407 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: Too many friends in Columbus don't want to suggest that. 408 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: But here's what I will suggest. 409 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't care if the following week it's a conference 410 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: championship game in some sterilized NFL venue. Ohio State versus Michigan, 411 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: the rivalry game is institutionalized in my mind. 412 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: It always has been. 413 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: It was as if it was created on the seventh 414 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: day instead of rest. That's what that game means to me. 415 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: That's what that game means to a college football purist. 416 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: The Big Ten Championship the following week, it's man made, 417 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: like it's got an artificial feel in my mind compared 418 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: to what the game feels like to me. And it's 419 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: a cash grab. And those conference championship games always have been, 420 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: and in the expanded playoff era, I'm not even sure 421 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: where they fit anymore. But yet they'll try to sell 422 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: me on that game being played seven days later having 423 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: more significance than the game itself. You will never sell 424 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: me on that. You simply cannot. And so I may 425 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: differ with some of you. I had someone going back 426 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: and forth with me today and they said, Ohio State 427 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: versus Michigan, the regular season game is just for those 428 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: fans bases. But Ohio State versus Michigan in the Big 429 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: Ten championship game with playoff implications on the line, that 430 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: impacts the whole country. The whole country is already impacted 431 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: by that game. You don't have to have you don't 432 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: have to have direct rooting interest, you don't have to 433 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: have grown up in like Sue, Saint Marie or Akron. 434 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: You don't have to be from these places. You don't 435 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: have to be of those fan bases. If you say that, 436 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: I just don't think you have a firm grasp on 437 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: what rivalry college football is all about. So that's the 438 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: first problem. Here's the second potential problem. Could it be 439 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: advantageous to not make your conference championship game? Just take 440 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: Old Miss for example. You could pick any of a 441 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: number of teams from a couple of power conferences. But 442 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: could it be advantageous to kind of secretly want to 443 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: miss out on your conference championship game. Let's say Ole 444 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: Miss is ten and two. They just miss out on 445 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: going to Atlanta. They don't play for the SEC championship, 446 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: but they're ten and two, know they're in the playoff. 447 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: They're going to be a really high seed. 448 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: They don't have to go and potentially lose in the 449 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: conference championship game. They're ten and two, they're a very 450 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: very highly ranked SEC team. They end up locking down 451 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: the five seed, which means in their first round game 452 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: they play in Oxford, they play a home playoff game 453 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: against the twelve seed, which is most likely the G 454 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: five team, And then they win that game, and you 455 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: know who their next opponent would be in the bracket. 456 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: It would likely be the lowest ranked conference champ. Now 457 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: that conference champ has a bye in the first round, 458 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: but that conference champ also may be from the Big twelve, 459 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: also may be a touchdown plus underdog to ole Miss, 460 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: even though ole Miss is not rested and you are, 461 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: and so Lane Kiffin or ole Miss or any of 462 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: a number of teams you could insert here, could look 463 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: and say, wait, would we rather risk going to Atlanta 464 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: and lose into Georgia and still having to play in 465 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: the first round, or would we rather just accept the five, 466 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: get rested up, and go into the playoff with a 467 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: very favorable draw, given that we don't have any stated 468 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: protocols that prevent that. Yeah, that's a very real possibility, 469 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: which again begs the question. If Ole missits their ten 470 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: and two doesn't go to Atlanta, locks down the five 471 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: seed and a favorable draw, they have been in a 472 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: better position than say Texas, who does go and play 473 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: Georgia and lose to Georgia and have to play in 474 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: the first round as a lower seed with a worst draw. 475 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: Where's the incentive. The incentive, of course, is well, Josh, 476 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: they could have won the game and they could have 477 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: gotten a first round by Yeah, but here's the follow 478 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: up logic there, what sense does it make to force 479 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: your two best teams to go play a game that 480 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: exists for cash? Just be real about it. It exists 481 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: so you can line your pockets further. And yeah, you've 482 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: baked in this whole first round by possibility, But you're 483 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: telling me the losing team is worse off for playing there. So, 484 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, the committee has not come out and 485 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: stated any protocol that's like a failsafe against this. And 486 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is if they came out 487 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: tomorrow and they said there will be no instance where 488 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: a team from a conference loses their conference title game 489 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: and drops below another team in that conference that didn't 490 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: play in the conference championship game. Hey, if they come 491 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: out and say that, then it makes a little more sense. 492 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: But they haven't said that, have they. Jesse, I have 493 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: not heard a single word like that. So I keep 494 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: coming back to this question in my mind that I 495 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: rarely do. I rarely do this kind of stuff because 496 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: it sounds really hot take ish, and we don't do 497 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: that on this show. 498 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: This is not a hot take. It's just a genuine question. 499 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: Is there still a place for conference championship games in 500 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: college football? Now here's what I didn't say. What I 501 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: didn't say is will they get rid of them? Oh, 502 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: they won't get rid of them. They make too much money. 503 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: So let me ask it a different way, because nobody 504 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: involved in this show, nobody listening to were watching this show, 505 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: actually makes any of that money, so that doesn't impact us. 506 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: So let me ask you like this, if I removed 507 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: the payday, would any of these conferences still play these games? 508 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: The answer is a hard no. So it's very obvious 509 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: we're not playing it for the integrity of the game, 510 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: for the betterment of the sport, to better or further 511 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: the product. 512 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: We're playing the game. 513 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of people excuse me, So a few 514 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: people can make a lot of money. Even having said that, 515 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: are you gonna build in parameters that make those games 516 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: still make sense? Are the games still gonna feel as significant? 517 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea, because, like you, I'm experiencing the 518 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: expanded playoff era for the first time. But I'm very interested. 519 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: You know that that scenario I just painted the Old 520 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: Miss Texas scenario for example, that benefits Old Miss. It 521 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: benefited Ole Miss to not go to Atlanta and let 522 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: Texas go there and lose like Old Miss ended up 523 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: better because of that. There is no logic where that 524 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: makes sense, or there's no logic in that makes sense. 525 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't, but right now it could. 526 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: Happened, So we'll see how that works out. I do 527 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: know that, come what may, in the college football playoff, 528 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: Father's Day is gonna happen this Sunday, Jesse. We've confirmed that, 529 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: and we didn't need Dennis Dodd to do it. Dennis 530 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: was probably aware, but he did not even break that news. 531 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: We are breaking that news. Father's Day is this Sunday. 532 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: And Academy Sports and Outdoors follow up has you covered? 533 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: There you go. It could be Academy dot Com. It 534 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: could be a good old fashioned in store visit. 535 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: But whatever you're thinking about doing for Father's Day, you 536 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: could go the card route. You know, you could go 537 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: the nondescript gift card route. We've all done it, who's 538 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: to amongst us hasn't. 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I'm just trying to remind you that while yes, 547 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors carries the classics, they also carry 548 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: a whole lot of other stuff that you probably thought 549 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: you had to go elsewhere to buy. 550 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: Celebrate Dad do It at Academy. 551 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: That's the tagline for this week. They did not pay 552 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: to license that, so I'm just freely stating it. 553 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: Celebrate Dad do It at Academy. 554 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors, your exclusive outdoor sporting goods plus provider. 555 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much, for being a long time 556 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: partner on the show. We've got big questions, as you've 557 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: already seen and heard. We've had several tonight, And if 558 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: you're listening on a podcast, I don't know if you 559 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: can hear this. The wind occasionally blowing in the mic, 560 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: but I'm just telling you it's hot in here, and 561 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: so I am. I am soldiering on as few others would. 562 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: It could be darn near seventy five degrees in here. 563 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: Starting to feel it a little bit. You know, a 564 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: lesser man would have folded by now. But I'm gonna 565 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: press on and may get Jesse to spray me face 566 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: a little bit later on, but I press on. Biggest 567 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: questions in the sport this year. You've got several, I've 568 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: got several. Here are four that I wanted to present 569 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: you tonight. Which of these first year coaches is going 570 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: to have the biggest impact. We could look at Kaitlin 571 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: to Board at Alabama. We could look at Sharon Moore 572 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: at Michigan. Those are the first two I go to, 573 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: only because I feel like they're in the same boat. 574 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: The question with them is not can they win or 575 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: can they build a program? They don't need to the 576 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: programs already built. That's the benefit of taking over at 577 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Michigan after they won a national title or at Alabama 578 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: after the greatest of all time had it on cruise 579 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: control in the championship picture every year. So the question 580 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: with both of them is basically, will the DNA, you know, 581 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: will the identity of the program feel similar to what 582 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: it felt like under Jim Harbar or Nick Saban, respectively, 583 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: And that's a great unknown. I've got fair amounts of 584 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I got extreme confidence into Bor because we've seen him 585 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: do it before. I think you guys should go listen 586 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: to Sharon Moore sitting down with Joel Klatt. It's about 587 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: thirty or forty minutes, kind of in the same vein 588 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: of what we've been doing on the road with a 589 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: lot of these head coaches. Because I don't think a 590 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: lot of people have heard Sharon Moore talk for an 591 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: extended period of time. 592 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: Michigan folks have. 593 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't think the country has, and you'd be well 594 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: served to go listen to that. So talking is one thing. 595 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: Of course, executing it is an entirely another thing. But 596 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: those two are kind of in the same boat. Mike 597 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Elko at Texas A and M. I also have a 598 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: lot of curiosity about. But Elko's different. Whereas Sharon Moore 599 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: and Kaylin de bor are trying to maintain the elite identity, 600 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, try and maintain the facade and maybe the 601 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: veneer of what has already been a winner, Elko's trying 602 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: to create what should have already been there. 603 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: You know. 604 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: Jimbo at Texas A and M had everything at his disposal, 605 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M was never a powerhouse. They 606 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: were never an elite program at any time under him. 607 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: Should have been, but weren't, can be. Will they be 608 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: under Mike Elko? And you don't have to wait two 609 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: or three years. You can absolutely see signs of that 610 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: in year one under him. Now, I'm trying to be 611 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: hesitant because you've you've got to love everything you're hearing 612 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: and feeling from College station. Right now, I'm trying to 613 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: be hesitant because there're zero and zero since he's become 614 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: the head coach, it can be very tempting. 615 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: Just like Debor at Alabama, same way. 616 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of positive recruiting momentum there a 617 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: lot more probably than some people expected. 618 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: Kaylin de Boor is zero and zero at Alabama. Mike 619 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: Elco is zero and zero at Texas A and M. 620 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to hit the brakes on both of 621 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: them right now, but it's noticeable. One dark horse candidate 622 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: in this whole conversation is at Arizona with Brenton Brennan, 623 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of anonymous, I think on the national landscape. He 624 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: was thirty four and forty eight at San Jose State. 625 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: So you may think to yourself, why would I get 626 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: excited about that guy? Well, number one, you can't just 627 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: do the whole You are what your record says, you 628 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: are a thing. Yeah, if he's thirty four forty eight 629 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: at Florida, get rid of him. It was San Jose State. Also, 630 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: three of his last four years they were a winner. 631 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: So it's obvious things were on the upswing there. And 632 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: when he came to Arizona, he's not inheriting a completely 633 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: stripped down roster. In fact, Jed Fish inherited a stripped 634 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: down not a stripped down roster at Washington. I don't 635 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: want to paint it like that. A lot of the 636 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: known pieces are not at Washington anymore. Washington's a very 637 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: capable program, and they got capable players up there. You 638 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: don't know the names of them quite yet. But at Arizona, 639 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: the fear obviously was all those guys are gonna leave 640 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: quarterback and star wide receiver chief among them, and they 641 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: did not, So Arizona could be a surprise contender this year. 642 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: The Friday night game at Kansas State early in the year, watch. 643 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: Out for that. 644 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Another question here, let's go. We already mentioned them one 645 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: time in the show. How about this good for the ReBs? 646 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Can Lane, Kiffin and old Mis get over the hump? 647 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: And here's a follow up question. What is the hump 648 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: at ol Miss? What are we talking about a championship? 649 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: We talking about winning the SEC? Is it just making 650 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: the playoff? What if I told you this is worth 651 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: the paper pop? What if I told you that ole 652 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: Miss is coming off their most successful season in program history. 653 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Does that occur to any of you? Is that kind 654 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: of a surprise to hear They've never won eleven games before. 655 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: They just won eleven last year. They've won twenty nine 656 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: over the past three years. That's one of the best 657 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: programs in the country. That is flying high by pretty 658 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: much any standard, but it is soaring above like commercial 659 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: cruising altitude by Old Miss standards. But yet I think 660 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: it's a consensus even amongst ole Miss fans that they 661 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: haven't gotten over the hump yet. It just goes to 662 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: show you the standards in this sport, especially in the 663 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: conference they play in, are sky high. So again I ask, 664 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: in the twelve team playoff era with Jackson Dark coming 665 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: back a loaded receiver room, they killed it in the portal. 666 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Yet again, what's the hump ump? And what would be 667 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: considered them getting over it? They need to go to 668 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: the SEC title game, they need to win it. If 669 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: they don't win it, do they need to make the playoff? 670 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: If they make it in as like a seven seed, 671 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: do they need to win at least one game. That's 672 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: where it is for me. For me, it's Ole Miss 673 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: make the playoff and win a game in the playoff. 674 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: That would feel like doing something above and beyond what 675 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: they've already done. Now, I know that you could look 676 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: at it and say, nuh uh. If they make the playoff, 677 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: they're doing something they've never done. Two of their last 678 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: three finishes would have been good enough to make a 679 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: twelve team playoff field. So just if they make it 680 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: in this year does not mean They're all of a 681 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: sudden doing something that they hadn't done. They're not playing 682 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: at any different level, in other words, than they had 683 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: already been playing at. It's just we lowered the bar 684 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: in this sport as to what it takes to make 685 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: a playoff. So what is the hump for ole Miss? 686 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: And will they get over it? Thirdly, the boy These 687 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: questions are so fun because they don't have to come 688 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: with predictions. They could just be questioned, is there a 689 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: disruptor in the Big Ten this year? Is there a 690 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: team basically not named Ohio State or Michigan that's gonna 691 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: win this thing? I have to consider everyone else a disruptor. 692 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: The last time someone other than Ohio State or Michigan 693 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: won the Big Ten was twenty sixteen. It's been eight 694 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: years since someone other than the team in Columbus and 695 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: the team in an Arbor won this conference, which is 696 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: a little ridiculous. If we're being real, you want to 697 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: shake the moniker of being a top heavy conference, how 698 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: about mixing it up? How about a little more variety 699 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: on the trophy stand in Indianapolis than Ohio State Michigan. 700 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: Every single time Penn State did it in twenty sixteen. 701 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: None of them have done it since then, which means 702 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: anyone other than Ohio State and Michigan winning this thing 703 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: would be a disruptor. Oregon winning the conference, I think 704 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: that would be a disruptor. Even though they're the second 705 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: best odds team to win the conference. The reason is 706 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: it's so easy for FanDuel to make that list in June. 707 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I got nothing against it, by the way, I agree 708 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: with the odds. But here's the thing. It's one thing 709 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: to say Oregon is the second odds on favorite to 710 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: win the conference. It's a whole different thing for them 711 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: to go do it and for us to turn on 712 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: that Big Ten championship game and to see yellow and 713 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: green confetti raining down in their first year in the conference. 714 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: How does that sit. That's disruption. 715 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: Walking into one of the premier conferences in college football 716 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: and winning it year one, you know good and well 717 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: what it takes to win that conference. In other words, 718 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: being better than Ohio State and Michigan means you had 719 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: to be as physical as them in all likelihood. You 720 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: come from the Pac twelve and you do that in 721 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: year one, that's saying something that's disruption. I think Penn 722 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: State winning it would be disruption at Penn State. 723 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: Where are they? 724 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: Jesse fourth odds I think, and Penn State's there every year. 725 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: Penn State, aside from those two hurdles, has done everything 726 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: you can ask of them. Third best odds to win 727 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: the conference. Penn State actually has better odds to win 728 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: the Big Ten than Michigan does. Yet I would call 729 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: it disruption if Penn State wins this thing. I would 730 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: not call it that if Michigan won it, because that's 731 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: how conditioned I've become to watching Ohio State of Michigan 732 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: hoist that trophy. If Penn State gets it done, I 733 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: would say that certainly if a Nebraska got it done 734 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: or an Iowa got it done. If USC got it done, 735 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: that would be an even bigger deal. Listen, people don't 736 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: question Oregon's physicality. They just kind of want to see 737 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: him do it. People outright question USC's physicality. I am people. 738 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: I question their physicality. If they were to come in 739 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: and shut everyone, including me up, and win the Big 740 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: Ten in year one, yeah, that's disruption. But do we 741 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: have that? That's my question? Do we have anyone out 742 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: there with the fortitude to make it happen? And lastly, 743 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: very open ended question here, What does Florida State need 744 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: from dj uyang La Lay to be national championship contender. 745 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: We expect them to contend for the ACC. We expect 746 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: them to be in the playoff hunt. I expect that 747 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: from them. So if I get that, I got what 748 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: I expected. To go above and beyond that, They're going 749 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: to need a certain level of quarterback play dj. It's 750 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: really weird, and that's not weird at all. Actually, it's 751 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: pretty eye opening when you look at his three years 752 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: as a full time starter. The last two years, one 753 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: of them was at Clemson, one of them was at 754 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: Oregon State. Are pretty consistent last two years, sixty two 755 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: percent and fifty seven percent last two years, twenty five 756 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: hundred yard passer, twenty six hundred yard passer last two years, 757 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: twenty two to seven TD to int ratio, twenty one 758 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: to seven TD to I in ratio. 759 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: And it wasn't like an apples to apples comparison. 760 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: At Clemson, you're dealing with a much different athletic profile 761 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: and conference than you are at Oregon State, but very 762 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: comparable numbers. 763 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 2: If I did a blind resume. 764 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be that much of a stretch for you 765 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: to guess, Yeah, the same guy did that in back 766 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: to back years. So I don't think that's good enough 767 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: to be a national championship contender at Florida State, That's 768 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it doesn't mean he has to 769 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: be that. It could be that he has planted himself 770 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of the best situation he could possibly 771 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: be in, and he's at a program there, and he's 772 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: being led by a head coach and a coaching staff 773 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: there that's gonna squeeze a little bit more out of 774 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: him than has been squeezed out of him anywhere else. 775 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 2: And you know what, that's not something I. 776 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: Would put past that Florida State staff at all. How 777 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: much more do they need or is Florida State able 778 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: to play such a complimentary style this year that they 779 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: could take the caliber of quarterback that he's been and 780 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 1: legitimately be a national championship contender with that. I think 781 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: they could contend for the ACC. I think they could 782 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: contend for making a playoff spot. I don't think the 783 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: level he's played at is good enough to win a championship, 784 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: So there is an above and beyond factor that has 785 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: to be there this is not me doubting this, me 786 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: openly speculating or questioning. 787 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: Can they get that out of him. 788 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: That's a big challenge for that staff this year because 789 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: it's not like you know, it's not like some places. 790 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: It's not like Will Howard, for example, where Ryan Day 791 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 1: and Ohio State they go get him and they plug 792 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: him in, but everything else around him is pretty much 793 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: ready to go. At Florida State, there is a lot 794 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: of churn on the roster period. They don't return nearly 795 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: as much production as an Ohio State does, So that 796 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything other than there are more questions with 797 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: that team. They're watching us in San Juan, Puerto Rico 798 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: because I can't roll my rs. It's just a good 799 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: old fashioned Puerto Rico here. Lexington, North Carolina and Douglas, Georgia. 800 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: Think you think you thank you so much, and make 801 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: sure you guys, if you haven't already, check and see 802 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: if you're subscribed on podcast or YouTube. We're getting just 803 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: alarming amounts of reports about five I would say that 804 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: people thought they were subscribed and they're not. Don't let 805 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 1: big tech win. Make sure you're subscribed. Well, this wasn't 806 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: polarizing at all. Today, Hey, Jesse, did you just put 807 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: this question in the live chat? 808 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: Let me go vote? 809 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: Uh? Okay, I voted, and I changed my vote because 810 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: we are wont to do that. So you saw it 811 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: if you're watching live, and if you're not watching live, 812 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: don't worry. 813 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: I'm about to let you know. 814 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: Vall Fanatics Show from Cornersville, Tennessee hit me and said, 815 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: the SEC hold up Cornersville? Is that like Giles County. 816 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: I think that's down near where Diana is. There's a 817 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: really big Church of Christ singing down in Diana two 818 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: times a year. I have frequented it myself. I think 819 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: that's where Cornersville is. Anyway, Colin, you don't have to 820 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: include that. Okay, here we go. Vall Fanatics Show from Cornersville, 821 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: Tennessee hit me and said, the SEC gets five of 822 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 1: twelve playoff spots. Now, this was a bold prediction from them, 823 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: but I thought to myself, that's so good. We could 824 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: make our own segment out of that. So here's my 825 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: question to all of you. Get twelve teams in the 826 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: playoff this year, how many of them are going to 827 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: be SEC TEA. You know, this could get pretty crazy here, 828 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna remind you once and this won't be 829 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: the last time. We're not just taking the top twelve 830 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: teams in the country. It is a conditional twelve. There 831 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: are autobids, and the autobid process is gonna get messy. 832 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: And so just remember, just because you think a lot 833 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: of SEC teams are going to be in the top 834 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: twelve doesn't mean all of them are going. So my 835 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: guess right now, right here, it is June thirteenth, the 836 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four, I think five 837 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: SEC teams are going to the playoff. What do you think? 838 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the poll right now, and most of 839 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: you are landing between three and four. 840 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: I saw a lot of five. 841 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of five sentiment earlier today, but 842 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: some of you thought five was a little bit of 843 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: a stretch. So the odds. Obviously, there's a ton of 844 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: SEC teams in the top twelve on the preseason totals 845 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: from FANDUELM, but that's not always how it's gonna work 846 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,479 Speaker 1: out this year or any given years. So I thought 847 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: ACE Football Analytics had a really good reply when I 848 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: put this on Twitter earlier today. They do a really 849 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: good It could be a he it could be a day. 850 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: Whoever runs the ACE Football Analytics account does a really 851 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: good job, they replied, I think with a really good take. 852 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 2: They said, there's two likely scenarios here. 853 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: One the SEC gets five teams in, everyone else is 854 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: outraged and they are calling for expansion to begin immediately 855 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 1: I could see it. Or scenario two, the SEC only 856 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: gets two to three in, they're outraged and they threatened 857 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: to break away from the NCAA, poach a few teams, 858 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: form their own league and their own playoff with the 859 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: Big Ten. And you know what he said at the end, 860 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: which I agree with. Both are likely to happen. I 861 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: completely agree with that it. Both are likely to happen. 862 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: That's why, as much as it pains me that we've 863 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 1: expanded this thing, you don't see me moaning and complaining 864 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: overtly about it, because I don't know how permanent it is. 865 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying that out of randomness on 866 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: this show, just saying that spouting off at the mouth. 867 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: It may sound like I am. I'm not the only 868 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: one who feels that way, and some people with semi 869 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: guided knowledge on the matter do not feel like we're 870 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: just set for life with this twelve team format now 871 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: true enough, true enough, maybe it expands further. But there's 872 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: also a world where it contracts. There's a world where 873 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: it breaks off entirely, and there are new products. And 874 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I like it or dislike it. I'm 875 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: just saying we're not fixed right now. So yeah, obviously, 876 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: if the SEC only gets two to three teams in 877 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't a disaster year for the conference, If 878 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: they get two to three in but they really genuinely 879 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: feel like they deserve more, they're not gonna sit back 880 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: and take that. Other conferences would have to take it. 881 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: But if the Big ten or the SEC genuinely feel 882 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: like they've been done wrong in this thing, there will 883 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: be action. And the other thing is the SEC is 884 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: sitting there still playing eight conference games, and they're waiting. 885 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: They're waiting, they're saying, we will play nine. Is as 886 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: long as you guys do the right thing at the 887 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: end of the day and take some of our nine 888 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: and threes over their ten and twos or eleven in ones, 889 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: we'll be happy to voluntarily strengthen our schedule more. But 890 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you really pretend like you are 891 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: what your record says, you are, we are not voluntarily 892 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: going to a nine game conference schedule. 893 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: So there's all that, But also there is the other side. 894 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: There is the side where the SEC gets six teams 895 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: in half the field ends up being SEC teams. 896 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: That's not crazy. 897 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: It may make you mad, so it may be maddening, 898 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: but it's not crazy. I mean, I get angry when 899 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: I miss a traffic light all the time, but it 900 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean it was the wrong thing to happen. 901 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's timed up and it did what it 902 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: was supposed to do. But I will tell you this, 903 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: there is a scenario this year where the SEC ends 904 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: up getting like five or six teams in and a 905 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: lot of you are outraged, and a lot of you 906 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 1: start yelling what SEC bias? 907 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: Right? 908 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: And I just think that maybe you want to rethink that. 909 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: I'm just looking down the road. What could happen is 910 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: the SEC gets like six teams in the playoff and 911 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 1: you live in Omaha, Nebraska, and you say SEC bias 912 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: that's the only explanation, And actually, what could happen is 913 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: the only thing that prevented more teams from the SEC 914 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: from being in is the SEC. What do you mean, Josh, 915 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 1: that sounds like it makes no sense. It makes sense 916 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: because here's what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen is at 917 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: the end of the year, we're gonna get there and 918 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: inevitably a whole bunch of SEC teams are gonna have 919 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: really good resumes. And if I were to press a 920 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: button and they all became blind resumes and you just 921 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: had to pick, and you didn't know who they were, 922 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 1: and you didn't know which conference they were in, some 923 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: of you who claim SEC bias, if you were fair 924 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: about it, would probably end up putting seven or eight 925 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: of them in the playoff. But as it stands, we 926 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: do know and we do see that conference sticker orffiliation, 927 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: and so if it comes down to five of them 928 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: already being in and then there's a coin flip between 929 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: a nine to three Alabama and an eleven to one 930 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: Oklahoma state, as someone on that committee, several someones are 931 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: going to say, we can't put another SEC team in, 932 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: can Well, actually that's not the way it's supposed to work, 933 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: but it's the way it probably will work. So the 934 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: best weapon against that thing becoming overly saturated with SEC 935 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: teams is actually that SEC sticker, Although I know that 936 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: makes little sense to some, especially in the SEC bias crowd. 937 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: Be glad you can tell who the teams are or 938 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: else there may be more in there. There is a 939 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: difference in competitive versus the level of play, and this 940 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: is the great unknown to me. The Big Twelve is 941 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: going to be insanely competitive. This year could be the 942 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: most fun conference in college football to watch. By and large, 943 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve is not going to be playing the 944 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 1: same caliber football that a lot of the SEC will 945 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: be playing. How much is that properly interpreted? First off, 946 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: am I right about that? So if I'm wrong, I'm 947 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: just wrong. But if I'm right about that, is it 948 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: properly interpreted? If I watch Utah versus Kansas State go 949 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: to triple overtime and it's just an instant classic, do 950 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: I get fooled into thinking because all of these games 951 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: out here competitive and this team's eleven and one, they 952 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: are the same caliber as maybe a ten and two. 953 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: LSU got to be careful with that. I'm not a 954 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: committee member, but I'm saying these are the conversations we're 955 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: going to be having, because if you do fall into 956 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 1: that trap of thinking that you are what your record 957 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: says you are. All power conferences are equal. Therefore, an 958 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: accomplishment in this conference at ten and two is roughly 959 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: equal to that of this conference being at ten and two. 960 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: The SEC and the Big ten aren't going to have that. 961 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: So I don't know how many teams the SEC is 962 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: going to get in this year. My guess is benefit 963 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: of the doubt will go their way. I don't think 964 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: that's the craziest notion in the world. Why would benefit 965 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: of the doubt not go the way of the most 966 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: powerful conference of college football. But be that as it may. 967 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: If they don't get their way, If they get their way, 968 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: you got to take it. If they don't get their way, 969 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: they don't have to take it. 970 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 971 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: It is not. 972 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 2: Is it the way of the world? 973 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. We move on. We've got bold predictions. 974 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: I've got several of them here, and I would say 975 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 1: this is a bold to quite bold batch of bold predictions. Tonight. 976 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: Let me look at our let me look at our 977 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: pole results over here. So you guys think three to four, 978 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: nearly three quarters of our audience, if I'm looking at 979 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: this pole right immunity thinks that the SEC is more 980 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: likely to get three or four teams in. Actually, wow, 981 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: well those results are interesting. Let me just say those 982 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: results are in. I think five are going. I think 983 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna get five in there. We'll see very interesting. 984 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad I had Jesse produce that poll in there. 985 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad I thought of that and told him. 986 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 2: To do it. Okay, Bold prediction time. 987 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: Which things do you believe about this year that you 988 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: would bet your own money on? Well, we got one 989 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: in the SEC. Speak of the devils here? What about Alabama? 990 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: Are they gonna make the playoff? What seed will they be? Well, 991 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: Dog Pound up in Austin, Georgia says, forget about that, 992 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 1: Bama just misses the college football playoff. Fortunately, our friends 993 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: at fan Do will already have odds on this. Bama 994 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: if you bet them to make the playoff plus twenty four, 995 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: if you bet them to miss the playoff minus one 996 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: fifty two. So nine and three would that get them in? 997 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: They're over underwent totals nine and a half. It's juice 998 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: to the under. So basically, odds makers are telling you 999 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: nine and three is kind of how they feel Bama 1000 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: this year. Would nine and three be good enough to 1001 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 1: get them in. Are they a hot team late? They 1002 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: play the road, They play on the road at LSU, 1003 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, and Auburn in three of their last four 1004 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: games they go three and oh. There they're hot at 1005 00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: the end of the year and it's a hot nine 1006 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: and three. Is that good enough to get in? Is 1007 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: nine to three in the SEC by one of their 1008 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: premier teams alone good enough to get in? I think 1009 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: this is an eight. They've got not the easiest schedule 1010 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: in the world. They do play Georgia in the regular season. 1011 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: I think this is an eight on the boldness scale 1012 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: only because there's a lot of unknown I mean, even 1013 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: with a twelve team field, you predict them to not 1014 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: go to the playoff, not get one of those twelve 1015 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: spots that in some other years would be a ten 1016 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. I made it an eight, maybe 1017 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: an eight and a quarter, but I'm bumping it down 1018 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: to an eight. Bama not in the playoff? 1019 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 2: Interesting? Next up? 1020 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: This was very interesting one as well. Damien from Ravenswood, 1021 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: West Virginia. A new college football Playoff champion will be 1022 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: crowned this year, a first time team in the playoff era, 1023 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: so only six teams have won the thing in the 1024 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: playoff era. Ohio State won the first one, Bama's won 1025 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 1: a few, Clemson's won a couple, LSU, Georgia won a couple. 1026 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: In Michigan just one one. 1027 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: So those teams are out, so we got to have 1028 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: any one other than them win the national championship this year. 1029 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: This is an eight point twenty five for me. 1030 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: Calls. 1031 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: On one hand, three of the top five odds teams 1032 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: at FanDuel would be repeat champs. 1033 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 2: That's one way to look at it. 1034 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: But the other way to look at it is out 1035 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: of the top ten, Number three, Texas they've never won it, 1036 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: Oregon's number four, they've never won it, Number six, Ole 1037 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: miss number eight, Penn State number nine, Notre Dame they've 1038 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: never won it. So I've got five of the top ten. 1039 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: They're in play FSU at eleven they've never won it, 1040 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee at twelve, Missouri at thirteen A and m fifteen, 1041 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: Miami sixteen. 1042 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 2: None of them have ever won it. 1043 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: Now, this is one of those classic Do I take 1044 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 1: a couple of teams or the field. It depends on 1045 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 1: how dominant you think Georgia could be or Ohio State 1046 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: could be. Do you think Bama's not going to fall off, 1047 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: do you? 1048 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1049 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: Do you believe in LSU or something like that? How 1050 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: powerful do you believe those top teams are. The fact 1051 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: that Texas would qualify this prediction as a whin and 1052 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: Oregon would qualify this prediction as a whin that's enough 1053 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: to bump the boldness down to just an eight and 1054 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: a quarter. Next up, I don't know who knows something 1055 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: up in Ashtabula, Ohio, but super Sayan from Ashtabula wrote 1056 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: us and said Julian saying, we'll finish the season as 1057 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State's starting quarterback. 1058 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 2: By the way, what kind of fever dream would this 1059 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 2: have been? In January? 1060 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: That kid had early enrolled at Bama, and just a 1061 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: few months later, we've got folks predicting he's going to 1062 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback at Ohio State by the end 1063 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: of the year. 1064 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, it all could happen. 1065 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: So Will Howard is the presumed starter, He's the transfer 1066 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: from Kansas State, He's got a ton more experience, saying 1067 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: is literally a true freshman. Obviously, injury could happen, but 1068 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: we don't want to predict injury because that's gross. So 1069 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: let's just say, without the without the concept of injury 1070 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: being baked in here, let's just say the suggestion is 1071 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: Julian saying flat out takes Will Howard's job by the 1072 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: end of the year. That is bold, but it's not impossible. 1073 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: The Oregon Game is gonna tell us a lot. We 1074 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: sayan's good now, Julian say, it's plenty good enough to 1075 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: start for a lot of major teams out there. It 1076 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: just so happens Ohio State is blessed enough to have 1077 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: been able to go in the portal and get Will Howard. 1078 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: The Oregon Game's gonna tell us a lot. I am 1079 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: of the opinion that Ohio State should be able to 1080 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: brutalize people this year. Ohio State, I think, recruited the 1081 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: receiver position so effectively for so long. They had so 1082 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: many five star guys out wide, it kind of like 1083 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: it altered who they were. You got all those five 1084 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: star guys, man, you got to incorporate them. Well, the 1085 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 1: problem is Michigan looked and said, we'll just sledge hammer you. 1086 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, we got some good talent out there, but 1087 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: we don't have to do that. Ohio State should be 1088 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: able to play the way Michigan's play for the last 1089 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: several years. 1090 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: If they if. 1091 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 1: They haven't in them, if they want to, Will Howard's 1092 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 1: the kind of quarterback you would play that way with. 1093 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: But if they go to Oregon and they try that 1094 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: and fail, or they're not even trying to do that 1095 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: and they fail, then it could be a course correction. 1096 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: There could be a lot of internal questioning and searching. 1097 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: Or if they go out there and they're dominant and 1098 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 1: that style of play has taken hold and the defense 1099 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: is everything we thought it was, well, then you got 1100 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: no shot at this happening. Experience matters a whole lot. 1101 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: To insert a true freshman in over a healthy, veteran, 1102 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: experienced quarterback, you gotta have no doubt. You gotta have 1103 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: virtually no doubt about that kid. And as good as 1104 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: I think Julian saying can be, it is just it's 1105 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: hard for any true freshman to end up being that. 1106 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 1: But there are people, not inside I'm not saying, inside 1107 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: the program at Ohio State, inside the fan base, there 1108 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: are people who believe this will happen. I think it's 1109 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 1: a nine on the boldness scale, not impossible, but it's 1110 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: a solid. Lastly, probably one of the most fun predictions 1111 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: we've had so far, and it comes to us from 1112 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: Uncle Rico's van in Bozeman, Montana. 1113 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 2: So you know it's legit. 1114 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: Two teams whose mascot is the Tiger will make the playoff. 1115 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: I got you covered here. Missouri thirteenth best odds to 1116 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 1: win the whole thing, Clemson fourteenth best odds, LSU seventh 1117 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: best odds, Auburn twenty third best odds, and Memphis has 1118 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: the best odds to win the AAC. Now, remember G 1119 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: five is going to get themselves a team in so 1120 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: the way I see it, Memphis has got the best odds. 1121 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: Let's say they win. They say they win that conference 1122 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: and they get the G five bid. I need one 1123 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: of you guys to come through. Missouri's got a very 1124 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: decent shot. LSU, can you do it? Clemson second odds 1125 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: team to win the ACC. Can you do it? Auburn 1126 00:56:54,760 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: is a stretch. I will grant you that plus just 1127 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: the aggregate of belief is the formula here. This is 1128 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: an eight point seventy five on the boldness scale. 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We've never 1187 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: done this for this team, but we thought that there 1188 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: was a time and a place where we were going 1189 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: to insert this in immunity and I think this is it. 1190 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: So we do the mood tracker where we try and 1191 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: take the temperature of fan bases. What's the fan base feeling, 1192 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: especially in June, this time of year. We've never done 1193 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Colorado before. How do you articulate the mood of Colorado 1194 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: fans right now? How do you define the Colorado fan base? 1195 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,919 Speaker 1: Because you got a family whose mom and dad graduated 1196 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: and they live out in Aurora, Colorado. They've been there forever, 1197 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: they're season ticket holders. That is one kind of Colorado fan. 1198 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: There's the dude who's twenty eight years old and drives 1199 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: a ups delivery route and lives in Boulder, and he 1200 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: loves Colorado just because he grew up in the community. 1201 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: He didn't go there, but still legit Colorado fan. There's 1202 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: this other army of folks, fair enough, who are only 1203 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: there because of Dion Sanders. That's fine, that's fine, But 1204 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: that's why I would call the current mood of the 1205 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Colorado fan base sort of like a carnival high. When 1206 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: I was growing up in Harris County, we would head 1207 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 1: down to Columbus for Riverfest. I don't even know if 1208 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: they still do it, but it was a great, great 1209 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: event because you had all these carnival rides that were 1210 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: hastily put together by x cons in some cases just 1211 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: guys on work release. Is it sustainable no? Is it healthy? No? 1212 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 2: Is it safe? 1213 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: No? But is it fun? Yes? That's Colorado football right now. 1214 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't know many people who believe that what Colorado 1215 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: is right now they will be seven years from now. 1216 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know many people who believe Deon Sanders will 1217 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: be there in seven years or five years or maybe 1218 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 1: even three years. 1219 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 2: They don't care because it's fun right now now. 1220 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: As soon as I say that, I know the comment 1221 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: section is gonna light on fire with people saying, but 1222 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: it's not working, well, this isn't gonna work. Well, what's 1223 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: the alternative? Or it's not gonna work as opposed to 1224 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: what might? I remind you they were one and eleven 1225 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: when he got there, and they won what they won 1226 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: four last year? I think they got five and a 1227 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: half as the over underwin total this year. What's not working? 1228 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: They didn't land him in Athens, Georgia. Guys, it's Colorado. 1229 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Colorado has rightfully been described as pre Dion Sanders, the 1230 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: worst athletic department in the Power five ranks, and here 1231 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: comes Deon Sanders, and it's brash and it's way different 1232 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: and Imagine being a Colorado fan, not one of the 1233 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Johnny cum latelies, all due respect to jcl's. Imagine being 1234 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: someone who is a long suffering Colorado Buffalo fan. You 1235 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 1: know this isn't gonna last, but you want to enjoy 1236 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: the ride as long as you can. Now I'm not 1237 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: sure there's anything wrong with that. I'm enjoying it. You know. 1238 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: I got personal feelings on maybe how sustainable or how 1239 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: realistic it is to build a long term winner through 1240 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: the portal, and my feelings are, I don't think it's possible, 1241 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: but it's fun to watch. 1242 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean, if you. 1243 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Ask me whether I've watched more Colorado football this last 1244 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: year than I have the previous three years combined, the 1245 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,439 Speaker 1: answer is a definitive yes. 1246 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 2: So I'd say it is working. 1247 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: I would just say, how we define working at Colorado 1248 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 1: and how we define working in Tallahassee, Florida maybe two 1249 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: different things. So I'd say the moods of Carnival high. 1250 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: And you know what, if you've never been to the 1251 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: carnival before, I feel bad for you. You got the management 1252 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: types who take their kids to wine testing before they're 1253 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: even ten years old, and then you got the real ones. 1254 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Who just take their kids to the carnival and you 1255 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 1: know what, maybe, just maybe they leave with a bruise 1256 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: or a skinned up knee or a low grade fever. 1257 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,479 Speaker 1: They had fun. Food poisoning the next day is well 1258 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: worth it. Did they have fun? I'm having fun. A 1259 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: lot of fan of bases having fun. And if you're 1260 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: not having fun. 1261 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 2: That's you're right. 1262 01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: I would just ask you, I've had fun us the show. 1263 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. We'll be back your same time 1264 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Sunday night. Until then, make sure you're subscribed. And once 1265 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: you've done that for producer Jesse for a direct colin 1266 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: on Josh faith Tank here, have a great start to 1267 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 1: your weekend. Goblins must be twenty one or over and 1268 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: present in select states. 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