Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woke f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from my Long Island bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: it has been now over a week or a week
Speaker 1: at that, I don't know, because time is a construct.
Speaker 1: Since women and people with uteruses in this country have
Speaker 1: lost the ability to have bodily autonomy. I can't express
Speaker 1: how much this decision by this radicalized, corrupt Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: with two stolen seats, both of which were stolen by
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. And I am talking about
Speaker 1: Amy Covid Barrett, and I am talking about out Brett Kavanaugh.
Speaker 1: We are living at a time that none of us
Speaker 1: have any basis foundational understanding of. I think that what
Speaker 1: makes me so incredibly terrified in this time is that
Speaker 1: it is so unpredictable. Precedent no longer matters, the rule
Speaker 1: of law, no longer matters, what the majority of people
Speaker 1: believe and want and vote for, no longer matters. What
Speaker 1: matters are the opinions of nine justices, or rather six justices,
Speaker 1: who are imposing their radicalized Republican Christian fundamentalist vision for
Speaker 1: America on the rest of us, who did not vote
Speaker 1: for them in these lifetimes impositions. This Court has not
Speaker 1: only signaled, they have dropped an atomic bomb on the Constitution,
Speaker 1: on precedent, on our rights as citizens of these United States,
Speaker 1: the right to privacy, the right to be able to
Speaker 1: sue the government and police officers for not providing us
Speaker 1: with a reading of our Miranda rights, the ability of
Speaker 1: governors and mayors in this country to be able to
Speaker 1: keep their constituents safe from rapid gun violence in places
Speaker 1: where we have condensed populations of eight million people and more.
Speaker 1: What this Supreme Court has laid bare is that our country,
Speaker 1: our democracy, is fucking broken. I talk about this every
Speaker 1: single day on this show. I remember when I sat
Speaker 1: in my recording chair five years ago and said that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump election was going to be the undoing of
Speaker 1: our country, and it was going to be white Supremaci's
Speaker 1: last stand. I said countless times over and over again
Speaker 1: that the fight for the soul of this country was
Speaker 1: going to get bloodier before it got better. Folks, that
Speaker 1: day has arrived. When I hear now that after rov
Speaker 1: Wade has fallen after fifty years, that gun legislation has
Speaker 1: fallen after a hundred years, that these radicalized Republicans are
Speaker 1: not just going to be satisfied with their patchwork of rights.
Speaker 1: They want to ensue. They want to create, excuse me,
Speaker 1: a nationalized ban on abortion. They want to at one
Speaker 1: time have states have all the rights, but only the
Speaker 1: states that they actually like, only the red states that
Speaker 1: are enligned with their fucking dated and sick and twisted
Speaker 1: ideology to be able to oppress as many people as
Speaker 1: they want. And you know, listening to Joe Biden now
Speaker 1: say that the time has since passed for there to
Speaker 1: be an end to the filibuster so that we can
Speaker 1: codify privacy into fucking law that cannot be changed at
Speaker 1: the whim of a Supreme Court or at the whim
Speaker 1: of a new president. I'm saying, where the fuck have
Speaker 1: you been right? We've been saying this, Black people in
Speaker 1: particular in this god forsaken fucking country have been saying this.
Speaker 1: But you see, what I have recognized is that Republican
Speaker 1: and Democrat are playing the same fucking game, and we
Speaker 1: are the chips. They are sitting at the same poker table,
Speaker 1: and what they are trading back and forth are our rights.
Speaker 1: You see, the Democratic Party now gets to purport themselves
Speaker 1: as the party of the people. But when you had
Speaker 1: the opportunity during the Obama administration to codify these laws,
Speaker 1: you decided that you would rather play with the people
Speaker 1: who would then later call into question Barack Obama's citizenship,
Speaker 1: call into question the legitimacy of Joe Biden's presidency, and
Speaker 1: then tell us outright that people of color, queer people
Speaker 1: in this country, people who are in a non Christian
Speaker 1: faith have no fucking rights less those that are dictated
Speaker 1: by six white, hetero powerful men in power. And you see,
Speaker 1: the Democratic quote unquote opposition is fine with that because
Speaker 1: they are a part of the patriarchal hierarchical structure in
Speaker 1: this country. They benefit from it. So they are using
Speaker 1: right now our rights as a fucking fundraising tool when
Speaker 1: they should have been out front, knowing back from when
Speaker 1: the fucking decision for Roe v. Wade was leaked to
Speaker 1: take fucking action. Joe Biden has about five goddamn months
Speaker 1: to jam through and fucking expand the court because following
Speaker 1: the fucking upset that will be the midterm elections, barring
Speaker 1: an outside fucking miracle, you're not going to get another chance.
Speaker 1: So you know, folks. Today I will be in conversation
Speaker 1: once again with Noreene Farrell, who is the executive director
Speaker 1: and CEO of Equal Rights Advocates, and we will be
Speaker 1: talking about this devastating opinion in the Dabbs case that
Speaker 1: fundamentally extinguished Roe v. Wade and the right to privacy
Speaker 1: and the right to abortion in this country. We will
Speaker 1: be talking about from her perspective, as all so a lawyer,
Speaker 1: what it is that she believes can be done in
Speaker 1: the current climate that we are in with this administration
Speaker 1: in order to secure the rights of women and people
Speaker 1: with uteruses. We are in the fight for our fucking lives,
Speaker 1: and I think, unfortunately it has taken a catastrophic loss,
Speaker 1: and these continued losses that this radicalized fucking Supreme Court
Speaker 1: is giving out right for people to wake up, for
Speaker 1: people the privilege, the white and the privilege and the
Speaker 1: wealthy to wake the fuck up and realize that there
Speaker 1: is nowhere safe in this country for them, and that
Speaker 1: while they were totally fine with black people and queer
Speaker 1: people and non Christian people being taken advantage of being threatened,
Speaker 1: now that their own lives are threatened, is it too
Speaker 1: fucking late for us to do the work in order
Speaker 1: to secure our democracy? Is this just a losing battle
Speaker 1: at this point? I will be in conversation with Norine
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Speaker 1: very happy to welcome back to Woke f Noreen Farrell,
Speaker 1: who is the executive director of Equal Rights Advocates, to
Speaker 1: discuss the new healthscape that we are living in posts
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court's decision to deny precedent to return women
Speaker 1: and people with uteruses back to the twentieth century, to
Speaker 1: a time when bodily autonomy was not ours was not
Speaker 1: a thing. Norien, I just want to start off as
Speaker 1: I've been starting off with all of these conversations with
Speaker 1: organization leads, with friends, with family, which is my god,
Speaker 1: how are you even distilling your emotions at this time
Speaker 1: with this decision. I I am compartmentalizing the hell out
Speaker 1: of these past couple of days because the devastation is
Speaker 1: so deep, and I'm exhausted thinking about the work ahead.
Speaker 1: But I am so angry and so fired up and
Speaker 1: so clear about the right side of history here. I mean,
Speaker 1: it isn't We've seen fifty years of gender justice progress
Speaker 1: just decimated, and I think that we are in for
Speaker 1: the gender and human rights battle of the century for
Speaker 1: a bodily autonomy and I'm just trying to ground myself
Speaker 1: as a as a as a mother, as a human,
Speaker 1: as a leader, as a lawyer, as a protester and activists,
Speaker 1: and and and trying to really get clear about one
Speaker 1: step after the next to mitigate the harm. I want
Speaker 1: you to put on your your lawyer hat for us
Speaker 1: for a minute, which I'm sure you probably don't take
Speaker 1: off these days. But you know, in the decision that
Speaker 1: Alito wrote, um, and then the concurrent decision that Clarence
Speaker 1: Thomas wrote, it is very clear and evident where this
Speaker 1: radicalized and corrupt, in my humble opinion, not putting words
Speaker 1: in your mouth, corrupt, Supreme Court is headed. Um. They
Speaker 1: do not believe that any of the cases that were
Speaker 1: one under privacy, such as Rovie Wade, such as Obergefeld,
Speaker 1: such as Lawrence, such as the cases that we have
Speaker 1: seen over the last decade plus, they don't believe in it.
Speaker 1: And so I want to get your legal understanding and
Speaker 1: how you were able to distill this decision and then
Speaker 1: the concurrent opinion from Thomas about the assault that they
Speaker 1: want to have on privacy and on autonomy in this country.
Speaker 1: How do you see their decision? Well, look, you know,
Speaker 1: we're dealing with a majority court that consider themselves originalists,
Speaker 1: and so that means that women and black people and
Speaker 1: anybody else who was excluded from the writing of the
Speaker 1: Constitution in seventeen eighty seven won't be considered in its interpretation.
Speaker 1: I think that I think that the descent made really clear.
Speaker 1: There are no promises from any member of the majority
Speaker 1: of this court that we can depend on, and Claris
Speaker 1: Thomas was very clear about what's new next. I think
Speaker 1: that we just have to accept that the front lines
Speaker 1: of the federal judiciary for our civil and constitution human
Speaker 1: rights is gone, and we are back in the States.
Speaker 1: We are talking about state constitutions and what can be
Speaker 1: done to fortify them. But even if the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: doesn't want to start to unravel some of these prior
Speaker 1: decisions allowing us to have the family of our choosing
Speaker 1: to marry who we want, to our basic privacy rights,
Speaker 1: this is the green light to states to do just
Speaker 1: that in their own courts. And you know, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at fast, furious, chaotic, and incredibly compact complex state and
Speaker 1: federal litigation in the next two decades. Based on what
Speaker 1: happened on Friday, You know, but we say that the
Speaker 1: federal federal protections are gone and that we're going back
Speaker 1: to the states. But if you look at the decision
Speaker 1: that was made with regard to New York's ability to
Speaker 1: have one hundred and eleven year old law on the
Speaker 1: book that would deny people the right to conceal and
Speaker 1: carry in this state be overturned, it is evident that
Speaker 1: they don't actually believe in states rights as long as
Speaker 1: it is about protecting individuals. If it is about taking
Speaker 1: away rights like the state's ability to say we're going
Speaker 1: to be an abortion provider, state an asylum states, that
Speaker 1: they still have their eye on that as well. Right,
Speaker 1: So this court is both saying, oh, it's states rights
Speaker 1: as so long as you're taking away rights, But if
Speaker 1: you are providing safety and sanctuary for people, then that's
Speaker 1: not your decision to be made. So what what is
Speaker 1: the strategy for you and your organization as you go
Speaker 1: into these states knowing that you know there is a
Speaker 1: faction of the Republican Party UM who sees a national
Speaker 1: abortion ban in their sights UH in twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: that does not believe in states rights. They want a
Speaker 1: totalitarian rule. So what's the strategy that you see going forward. UM, Well,
Speaker 1: my t shirt on the on the streets this week
Speaker 1: as if my you know, uterus head bullets, would it
Speaker 1: be had more rights? UM? I think yes. The hypocrisy
Speaker 1: of um, of the states rights argument, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've been in the past couple of days and head
Speaker 1: on heads with people that are hailing the decision. UM.
Speaker 1: There is just there's obviously no intellectual or legal integrity
Speaker 1: and that's happening. UM. And so I do think that
Speaker 1: I do think that UM. You know, it's going to
Speaker 1: take about twenty years, I think for the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: to start to detach some of that hypocrisy and legal analysis. M.
Speaker 1: I do think that there is a space though potentially
Speaker 1: for lower level federal courts on some of these issues too,
Speaker 1: you know, seize on that kind of precedent of what's
Speaker 1: happening in terms of gun control to support UM, federal
Speaker 1: you know, whatever semblance of federal protections there are for
Speaker 1: basic privacy rights, if not abortion. UM. And so you
Speaker 1: can be sure that legal advts are going to be
Speaker 1: seizing on places where where the federal government and judiciary
Speaker 1: has stepped in in terms of rights and apply them
Speaker 1: for gender, racial, economic justice. But that being said, I
Speaker 1: think that the strategy, um, I think the strategy frankly,
Speaker 1: there's a good case that came out of Florida by
Speaker 1: a Jewish synagogue right saying that this is a violation
Speaker 1: of my religion, really setting up other core constitutional rights
Speaker 1: that are being undermined by this decision and by state
Speaker 1: laws I think are very smart, you know, the the
Speaker 1: duty of care that's owed by physicians, religious freedom to
Speaker 1: have bodily autonomy. I think that these are places where
Speaker 1: you know that hypocrisy can be and those contradictions can
Speaker 1: be seized on by the right federal courts potentially, you know,
Speaker 1: I do think though that that aside, we are definitely
Speaker 1: going to have to be changing who is selecting judges
Speaker 1: who are on our bench. I mean we I'm not
Speaker 1: the only one that thinks that about administration needs to
Speaker 1: be thinking about much more radical steps right now in
Speaker 1: terms of the courts, composition, etc. But you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any even pretense of intellectual judicial integrity
Speaker 1: in what happened on Friday, And hopefully the voters will
Speaker 1: see that as well, because well, unlike guns, I think
Speaker 1: I think reproductive justice do hit core economic justice rights
Speaker 1: works which are very important to a wider swath of voters.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to go back to the point
Speaker 1: that you just made about the Biden administration because I
Speaker 1: will tell you that you know, with the people that
Speaker 1: I speak to on a regular basis, there is a
Speaker 1: deep frustration that is growing with this administration and their
Speaker 1: lack of sense of urgency, the lack of urgency, the
Speaker 1: lack of strategic thinking right, the lack of pushing boundaries
Speaker 1: to the limits that the federal government has. What the
Speaker 1: voters keep hearing is, Oh, we can't do this, we
Speaker 1: can't do that. Oh it's up to Congress. Um. So
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on what is it
Speaker 1: that you do believe that the administration could be taking
Speaker 1: the steps that they could be taking, or frankly freaking
Speaker 1: the steps that they should have been taking. Knowing uh,
Speaker 1: you know, several weeks ago when we got the draft
Speaker 1: decision that this was coming down the pike. So it
Speaker 1: was like as if everyone was just kind of sitting
Speaker 1: around in the democratic establishment and in this administration, you know,
Speaker 1: just looking up at the sky or naval gazing, and
Speaker 1: we're saying our rights are under attack. So and and
Speaker 1: you know, just recently, Vice President Harris did an interview
Speaker 1: where she's being asked about their sense of urgency. People
Speaker 1: want you to do something now, and she goes, do
Speaker 1: what now? So what what is your response to that?
Speaker 1: You know, there's comes a point in the movement where
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if your strategy works, it's the fact
Speaker 1: that you pursued it. And I think that, UM, I
Speaker 1: think that I find this this frustration often with people
Speaker 1: in Washington who are very cognizant of the rules, UM,
Speaker 1: but they are not cognizant of the optics of not
Speaker 1: even trying to break them, you know, making moves right
Speaker 1: now to expand the Supreme Court, you know, getting getting
Speaker 1: the DOJ and others with all the state attorney generals
Speaker 1: and supporting state by state defense with the resources of
Speaker 1: the administration, right being a leader in coordinating that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, making moves to you know, make sure that
Speaker 1: the Equal Rights Amendment is past and then bringing a
Speaker 1: bringing a you know, a counter student as a violation
Speaker 1: of that constitutional right. You know, thinking about um, you know,
Speaker 1: not to mention all the legislative you know fixes that
Speaker 1: should be coming up again and again and again and
Speaker 1: making the election about those legislative fixes, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: as we sit you know, as we sit here, Barbara
Speaker 1: Lee has an amazing you know bill that would have
Speaker 1: countered what happened, and it's just that comes and goes
Speaker 1: and then it's quiet. I just think they need a
Speaker 1: concerted legal, legislative executive strategy UM its regulatator story strategy
Speaker 1: and frankly, a mobilizing strategy UM and and working with
Speaker 1: progressive governors in this moment um. You know, we've got
Speaker 1: the governor of We've got the governor of Michigan challenging
Speaker 1: a book that's been on you know, a law that's
Speaker 1: been in the book since nineteen thirty one that would
Speaker 1: you know, felonizes uh uh you know abortion and reproductive
Speaker 1: healthcare access. That's challenging it in court, right, and lending
Speaker 1: those resources and being vocal about it. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: it can't be like, well, it's just all going to
Speaker 1: be about the election. This has happened right now, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, getting pursuing less AOC doing. How do we
Speaker 1: how do we get rid of these these judges that
Speaker 1: lied about respecting precedent um? You know, I mean they
Speaker 1: lied under oath, right, and your lawyer, so you tell me,
Speaker 1: isn't lying under oath? Isn't isn't there a penalty for that?
Speaker 1: These are the kinds of you know, these are the
Speaker 1: kinds of uh, you know, actions that I think would
Speaker 1: really you know, build faith among those of us who
Speaker 1: know the incredible harm and devastation and the lives that
Speaker 1: will be lost because of this decision. So UM, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that we in the legal community, we use activists.
Speaker 1: We are trying to embold m federal action and executive
Speaker 1: action as much as possible, so we've got your back.
Speaker 1: Do what we're doing. UM in California at the federal level,
Speaker 1: introduce a package of thirteen bills at once that talks about,
Speaker 1: you know, respecting the hippocratic oath of doctors, that talks
Speaker 1: about um potentially you know, equal protection, cause claims for
Speaker 1: base sick worker rights to do their jobs. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, there are so many who who are bringing
Speaker 1: you know, bills about religious freedom, for bodily autonomy, take
Speaker 1: your cues. There are so many strategies that are calculating
Speaker 1: in the states that are you know, very exciting and
Speaker 1: creative and they could be a roadmap for executive and
Speaker 1: federal action right now. And I think that that would, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we just need the severity of what happened
Speaker 1: to be met by it, you know that kind of response. Um,
Speaker 1: And uh, it's it's really I mean, and also from
Speaker 1: you know, from corporate America, from every from every source.
Speaker 1: We need to be reading this as it is because
Speaker 1: you can bet that there's been you know, five decades
Speaker 1: of organizing for this moment by the right wing and um,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just going to be battered by state
Speaker 1: laws right now. Um, in the absence of really clear
Speaker 1: exactetive in federal action. I mean, why do you think
Speaker 1: that we became so complacent? And I mean the collective
Speaker 1: we progressives, Democrats because you know, the thing that I
Speaker 1: keep talking about is that I'm not so certain why
Speaker 1: all of this was a shock. Republicans have been organizing
Speaker 1: in plain sight for fifty years. They've been telling you,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump told you right that I am going to
Speaker 1: elect conservative judges who do not believe in a person's
Speaker 1: right to choose you. Democrats knew this when Obama was
Speaker 1: in office and allowed Mitch McConnell to hold a Supreme
Speaker 1: Court seat hostage and didn't push back. We allowed Amy
Speaker 1: Covid Barrett to be elected to to be appointed to
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and when the Biden administration came in,
Speaker 1: there was no pushback to that fact. Democrats did not
Speaker 1: put up a fight to block to block her from
Speaker 1: being placed on the bench. It's it's everyone keeps thinking
Speaker 1: that we're going to get another bite at the apple,
Speaker 1: and I said it's done. So I'm just I want
Speaker 1: to know, like, how do you think that we got here.
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot. I think it's a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of forces at play. And you're right, we
Speaker 1: only have ourselves to blame. But you know, when we
Speaker 1: when we hear in the writings like you're right, Justice
Speaker 1: Barret about we could be leaving babies at you know,
Speaker 1: the steps of churches. You know, we're talking about children
Speaker 1: that are eleven, twelve years old getting pregnant and having
Speaker 1: babies without the access to abortion. Um. You know, I
Speaker 1: it doesn't come as a surprise to me because I
Speaker 1: don't know that this country has ever taken seriously really
Speaker 1: fighting the patriarchy or racist power structures. We see that
Speaker 1: in you know, this abortion ban is in the context
Speaker 1: of the contraction of basic support that allow women and
Speaker 1: people with uteruses, and people with family to work, to
Speaker 1: be educated. Let's just talk about education. This is the
Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary of Title nine, which is supposed to ensure
Speaker 1: that every kid in this country has equal access to education.
Speaker 1: How is that possible if you can't decide when and
Speaker 1: if to have children? So, I, you know, you and
Speaker 1: I both know that this has never just been about abortion.
Speaker 1: It is about the control benefit, the benefit that comes
Speaker 1: out of gendered roles. You know, yet in women out
Speaker 1: of the workplace, dependent on male read winners, out of
Speaker 1: the political process that impacts their lives, and so I
Speaker 1: think that people across the aisle benefit from that. We
Speaker 1: don't need to look any further than the fact that
Speaker 1: we could not pass a universal childcare package, that the
Speaker 1: twenty six states that are now forcing births have not
Speaker 1: passed paid leave in their states, And so I think
Speaker 1: it we we really hurt ourselves when we continue to
Speaker 1: talk about issues in siloed ways, because it just makes
Speaker 1: you feel like you're whackamling. And I'm sure that that's
Speaker 1: what's happening at the federal level. Let's get this one.
Speaker 1: Let's get this let's do this as opposed to saying,
Speaker 1: unless you're really taking a comprehensive approach, these are going
Speaker 1: to accumulate to a perfect storm of what happened on Friday,
Speaker 1: and that will continue to storm over the country for
Speaker 1: decades to come. And I just think that we need
Speaker 1: we need leaders that are articulating this in that way,
Speaker 1: and we need voters to get it in that way.
Speaker 1: And there's such a conservatism about even I mean, you
Speaker 1: and I talked about this the last time. I don't
Speaker 1: even think the word was abortion. Abortion was used in
Speaker 1: the last presidential address. He I literally I sat there big,
Speaker 1: and I was and I was and I'm listening to
Speaker 1: this emergency address in the afternoon, and I was waiting,
Speaker 1: and it was like, what ten fifteen minutes, abortion was
Speaker 1: not uttered. And I said, what the fuck? Like in
Speaker 1: this particular time, at this moment where people are running
Speaker 1: out of their homes into the streets to protests, and
Speaker 1: the president of the United States, when abortion was just
Speaker 1: taken away from over fifty percent of the population, you
Speaker 1: can't say the word, So then how do you plan
Speaker 1: on fighting? You know? I think I think that obviously,
Speaker 1: we hope all of these things become calls to action,
Speaker 1: but to day to day, Congress could be introducing a
Speaker 1: constitutional amendment in conjunction with progressive governors in every state,
Speaker 1: introducing constitutional amendments state and federal that are explicit about
Speaker 1: the right to abortion, the right saying the word sex
Speaker 1: and race instead of just equal protection in our constitution,
Speaker 1: and and really using it as a two year campaign
Speaker 1: until the presidential election to rally every single states stayed
Speaker 1: around basic human rights. We need to stop thinking about
Speaker 1: what we can get and lead with the vision of
Speaker 1: what people need now and simultaneously, and I just think
Speaker 1: we're going to We're going to get a lot further
Speaker 1: that way. And so I you know, I'm not just
Speaker 1: looking at sort of you know, the incredible creativity in
Speaker 1: you know, judicial and legal advocacy over the next two years.
Speaker 1: I'm also looking for the bravery of electeds. You know,
Speaker 1: they've got an opportunity, as folks are, you know, approaching
Speaker 1: you know, November, to really lay out very bold and
Speaker 1: visionary plans. And that's where we have to put our votes,
Speaker 1: and that's where I have to put our money. I'm
Speaker 1: saying this as a C three leader, of course, I
Speaker 1: want to activate people on issues, and you know, frankly,
Speaker 1: who the candidate is, you know, is less important than
Speaker 1: what they're trying to what their what their vision is. UM.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I think there are these
Speaker 1: lofty practical legal concerns, but then there's also we're really
Speaker 1: focused on basic access money. How do we engage high
Speaker 1: road employers, how do we keep them from getting sued
Speaker 1: for just giving travel money? UM? You know, so I
Speaker 1: think that this is UM. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: from within the community's most impacted who've been leading the
Speaker 1: fight to protect abortion for decades. UM, we need to
Speaker 1: continuer center that leadership. They know what their communities need
Speaker 1: on the ground, and hopefully those will be the ones
Speaker 1: that will be you know, activated by visionary political leaders
Speaker 1: in this moment. Um it is it is there for
Speaker 1: the taking. Uh. And I just we just have to
Speaker 1: hope that. UM, you know, we keep amplifying that. UM,
Speaker 1: this isn't the time for mild mild mannard sitting on
Speaker 1: your hands, gasho, geez, it really isn't. This is this
Speaker 1: is the decimation, decimation of progress across decades. Last question
Speaker 1: for you, Noreen, real quick, UM, one of the questions
Speaker 1: that I was asked recently on MSNBC was well, Danielle,
Speaker 1: you know, will the temperature cool off from the anger?
Speaker 1: Will this be what is going to move people to
Speaker 1: the polls? And I will say that the way that
Speaker 1: the question was asked was not correct, because the question
Speaker 1: was will this get white women to the polls? Right?
Speaker 1: But it was asked it was it was phrased in
Speaker 1: the way around suburban women and we all know what
Speaker 1: those euphemisms mean. But the temperature in this country right now,
Speaker 1: Noreen is hot right like we are. We are at
Speaker 1: we are at fever level. And I and I am wondering,
Speaker 1: do you believe that the level of rage that people
Speaker 1: are feeling now is going to sustain them for November.
Speaker 1: I think the most powerful asset and strength we have
Speaker 1: right now through November are our stories I and people
Speaker 1: like you bringing them forward. You know, there was that
Speaker 1: Twitter where I saw about the medical profession coming out
Speaker 1: to talk about eleven year old girls being pregnant. That
Speaker 1: just you know, I know that intellectually, I know those stories,
Speaker 1: but we have to keep up the drum beat of
Speaker 1: the people most impacted that I think those stories of
Speaker 1: you know, people having to get abortions, with dying babies,
Speaker 1: with women just having too many children, or people with
Speaker 1: you to rose, having too many Telling our stories bringing
Speaker 1: humanity forward is really going to be a very very
Speaker 1: powerful tool to keep that drum beat up, because as
Speaker 1: long as you can put your you know, your head
Speaker 1: in the sand and be like, you know, this is
Speaker 1: about people not using contraception correctly, you know, bringing up
Speaker 1: the where this is going, not just the slippers slope,
Speaker 1: the cliff of where this is going. Come on, I
Speaker 1: don't think that there is a single person in this
Speaker 1: country that it won't touch. Um, this this right wing agenda,
Speaker 1: and I do think continually bringing that up and having
Speaker 1: those shared stories of humanity is going to be critically
Speaker 1: important to keep us mad, to keep the urgency, to
Speaker 1: make us everyone remember this is a matter of life
Speaker 1: and death, and also you know, centering those most impacted
Speaker 1: as our leaders, as voters and elections and those voices. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's incumbent upon us, and you know we
Speaker 1: we intend to do that organizationally, and you know with
Speaker 1: those of us in our movement, well, Mariene um wokay
Speaker 1: Off is here with you and this fight, and so
Speaker 1: we hope to have you back many times us as
Speaker 1: we continue to cover this story, as we continue to
Speaker 1: lift up voices of people and to tell the story
Speaker 1: of what this radical right wing agenda is trying to
Speaker 1: do in this country as well as around the world.
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