1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woke f Daily with 2 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from my Long Island bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: it has been now over a week or a week 4 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: at that, I don't know, because time is a construct. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Since women and people with uteruses in this country have 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: lost the ability to have bodily autonomy. I can't express 7 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: how much this decision by this radicalized, corrupt Supreme Court, 8 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: with two stolen seats, both of which were stolen by 9 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. And I am talking about 10 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Amy Covid Barrett, and I am talking about out Brett Kavanaugh. 11 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: We are living at a time that none of us 12 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: have any basis foundational understanding of. I think that what 13 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: makes me so incredibly terrified in this time is that 14 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: it is so unpredictable. Precedent no longer matters, the rule 15 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: of law, no longer matters, what the majority of people 16 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: believe and want and vote for, no longer matters. What 17 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: matters are the opinions of nine justices, or rather six justices, 18 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: who are imposing their radicalized Republican Christian fundamentalist vision for 19 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: America on the rest of us, who did not vote 20 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: for them in these lifetimes impositions. This Court has not 21 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: only signaled, they have dropped an atomic bomb on the Constitution, 22 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: on precedent, on our rights as citizens of these United States, 23 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: the right to privacy, the right to be able to 24 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: sue the government and police officers for not providing us 25 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: with a reading of our Miranda rights, the ability of 26 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: governors and mayors in this country to be able to 27 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: keep their constituents safe from rapid gun violence in places 28 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: where we have condensed populations of eight million people and more. 29 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: What this Supreme Court has laid bare is that our country, 30 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: our democracy, is fucking broken. I talk about this every 31 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: single day on this show. I remember when I sat 32 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: in my recording chair five years ago and said that 33 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump election was going to be the undoing of 34 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: our country, and it was going to be white Supremaci's 35 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: last stand. I said countless times over and over again 36 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: that the fight for the soul of this country was 37 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: going to get bloodier before it got better. Folks, that 38 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: day has arrived. When I hear now that after rov 39 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: Wade has fallen after fifty years, that gun legislation has 40 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: fallen after a hundred years, that these radicalized Republicans are 41 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: not just going to be satisfied with their patchwork of rights. 42 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: They want to ensue. They want to create, excuse me, 43 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: a nationalized ban on abortion. They want to at one 44 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: time have states have all the rights, but only the 45 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: states that they actually like, only the red states that 46 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: are enligned with their fucking dated and sick and twisted 47 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: ideology to be able to oppress as many people as 48 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: they want. And you know, listening to Joe Biden now 49 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: say that the time has since passed for there to 50 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: be an end to the filibuster so that we can 51 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: codify privacy into fucking law that cannot be changed at 52 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: the whim of a Supreme Court or at the whim 53 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: of a new president. I'm saying, where the fuck have 54 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: you been right? We've been saying this, Black people in 55 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: particular in this god forsaken fucking country have been saying this. 56 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: But you see, what I have recognized is that Republican 57 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: and Democrat are playing the same fucking game, and we 58 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: are the chips. They are sitting at the same poker table, 59 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: and what they are trading back and forth are our rights. 60 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: You see, the Democratic Party now gets to purport themselves 61 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: as the party of the people. But when you had 62 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: the opportunity during the Obama administration to codify these laws, 63 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: you decided that you would rather play with the people 64 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: who would then later call into question Barack Obama's citizenship, 65 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: call into question the legitimacy of Joe Biden's presidency, and 66 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: then tell us outright that people of color, queer people 67 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: in this country, people who are in a non Christian 68 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: faith have no fucking rights less those that are dictated 69 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: by six white, hetero powerful men in power. And you see, 70 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the Democratic quote unquote opposition is fine with that because 71 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: they are a part of the patriarchal hierarchical structure in 72 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: this country. They benefit from it. So they are using 73 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: right now our rights as a fucking fundraising tool when 74 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: they should have been out front, knowing back from when 75 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: the fucking decision for Roe v. Wade was leaked to 76 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: take fucking action. Joe Biden has about five goddamn months 77 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: to jam through and fucking expand the court because following 78 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: the fucking upset that will be the midterm elections, barring 79 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: an outside fucking miracle, you're not going to get another chance. 80 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: So you know, folks. Today I will be in conversation 81 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: once again with Noreene Farrell, who is the executive director 82 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: and CEO of Equal Rights Advocates, and we will be 83 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about this devastating opinion in the Dabbs case that 84 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: fundamentally extinguished Roe v. Wade and the right to privacy 85 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: and the right to abortion in this country. We will 86 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: be talking about from her perspective, as all so a lawyer, 87 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: what it is that she believes can be done in 88 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: the current climate that we are in with this administration 89 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: in order to secure the rights of women and people 90 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: with uteruses. We are in the fight for our fucking lives, 91 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: and I think, unfortunately it has taken a catastrophic loss, 92 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: and these continued losses that this radicalized fucking Supreme Court 93 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: is giving out right for people to wake up, for 94 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: people the privilege, the white and the privilege and the 95 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: wealthy to wake the fuck up and realize that there 96 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: is nowhere safe in this country for them, and that 97 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: while they were totally fine with black people and queer 98 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: people and non Christian people being taken advantage of being threatened, 99 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: now that their own lives are threatened, is it too 100 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: fucking late for us to do the work in order 101 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: to secure our democracy? Is this just a losing battle 102 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: at this point? I will be in conversation with Norine 103 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: about this and so much more coming up next. It's 104 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: no secret that the news is horsepill hard to swallow. Thankfully, 105 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: there's The Bituation Room podcast hosted by comedian and commentator 106 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Francesca Freer and Tini for a lighter take on the 107 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: heavy stuff. 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Folks, I am 122 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: very happy to welcome back to Woke f Noreen Farrell, 123 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: who is the executive director of Equal Rights Advocates, to 124 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: discuss the new healthscape that we are living in posts 125 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court's decision to deny precedent to return women 126 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: and people with uteruses back to the twentieth century, to 127 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: a time when bodily autonomy was not ours was not 128 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: a thing. Norien, I just want to start off as 129 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: I've been starting off with all of these conversations with 130 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: organization leads, with friends, with family, which is my god, 131 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: how are you even distilling your emotions at this time 132 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: with this decision. I I am compartmentalizing the hell out 133 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: of these past couple of days because the devastation is 134 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: so deep, and I'm exhausted thinking about the work ahead. 135 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: But I am so angry and so fired up and 136 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: so clear about the right side of history here. I mean, 137 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: it isn't We've seen fifty years of gender justice progress 138 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: just decimated, and I think that we are in for 139 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: the gender and human rights battle of the century for 140 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: a bodily autonomy and I'm just trying to ground myself 141 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: as a as a as a mother, as a human, 142 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: as a leader, as a lawyer, as a protester and activists, 143 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: and and and trying to really get clear about one 144 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: step after the next to mitigate the harm. I want 145 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: you to put on your your lawyer hat for us 146 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: for a minute, which I'm sure you probably don't take 147 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: off these days. But you know, in the decision that 148 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: Alito wrote, um, and then the concurrent decision that Clarence 149 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Thomas wrote, it is very clear and evident where this 150 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: radicalized and corrupt, in my humble opinion, not putting words 151 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: in your mouth, corrupt, Supreme Court is headed. Um. They 152 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: do not believe that any of the cases that were 153 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: one under privacy, such as Rovie Wade, such as Obergefeld, 154 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: such as Lawrence, such as the cases that we have 155 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: seen over the last decade plus, they don't believe in it. 156 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: And so I want to get your legal understanding and 157 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: how you were able to distill this decision and then 158 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: the concurrent opinion from Thomas about the assault that they 159 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: want to have on privacy and on autonomy in this country. 160 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: How do you see their decision? Well, look, you know, 161 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: we're dealing with a majority court that consider themselves originalists, 162 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: and so that means that women and black people and 163 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: anybody else who was excluded from the writing of the 164 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Constitution in seventeen eighty seven won't be considered in its interpretation. 165 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: I think that I think that the descent made really clear. 166 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: There are no promises from any member of the majority 167 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: of this court that we can depend on, and Claris 168 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Thomas was very clear about what's new next. I think 169 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: that we just have to accept that the front lines 170 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: of the federal judiciary for our civil and constitution human 171 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: rights is gone, and we are back in the States. 172 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: We are talking about state constitutions and what can be 173 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: done to fortify them. But even if the Supreme Court 174 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want to start to unravel some of these prior 175 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: decisions allowing us to have the family of our choosing 176 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: to marry who we want, to our basic privacy rights, 177 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: this is the green light to states to do just 178 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: that in their own courts. And you know, I'm looking 179 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: at fast, furious, chaotic, and incredibly compact complex state and 180 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: federal litigation in the next two decades. Based on what 181 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: happened on Friday, You know, but we say that the 182 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: federal federal protections are gone and that we're going back 183 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: to the states. But if you look at the decision 184 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: that was made with regard to New York's ability to 185 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: have one hundred and eleven year old law on the 186 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: book that would deny people the right to conceal and 187 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: carry in this state be overturned, it is evident that 188 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: they don't actually believe in states rights as long as 189 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: it is about protecting individuals. If it is about taking 190 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: away rights like the state's ability to say we're going 191 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: to be an abortion provider, state an asylum states, that 192 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: they still have their eye on that as well. Right, 193 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: So this court is both saying, oh, it's states rights 194 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: as so long as you're taking away rights, But if 195 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: you are providing safety and sanctuary for people, then that's 196 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: not your decision to be made. So what what is 197 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: the strategy for you and your organization as you go 198 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: into these states knowing that you know there is a 199 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: faction of the Republican Party UM who sees a national 200 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: abortion ban in their sights UH in twenty twenty four 201 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: that does not believe in states rights. They want a 202 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: totalitarian rule. So what's the strategy that you see going forward. UM, Well, 203 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: my t shirt on the on the streets this week 204 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: as if my you know, uterus head bullets, would it 205 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,479 Speaker 1: be had more rights? UM? I think yes. The hypocrisy 206 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: of um, of the states rights argument, and you know, 207 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I've been in the past couple of days and head 208 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: on heads with people that are hailing the decision. UM. 209 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: There is just there's obviously no intellectual or legal integrity 210 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: and that's happening. UM. And so I do think that 211 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: I do think that UM. You know, it's going to 212 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: take about twenty years, I think for the Supreme Court 213 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: to start to detach some of that hypocrisy and legal analysis. M. 214 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I do think that there is a space though potentially 215 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: for lower level federal courts on some of these issues too, 216 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, seize on that kind of precedent of what's 217 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: happening in terms of gun control to support UM, federal 218 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, whatever semblance of federal protections there are for 219 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: basic privacy rights, if not abortion. UM. And so you 220 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: can be sure that legal advts are going to be 221 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: seizing on places where where the federal government and judiciary 222 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: has stepped in in terms of rights and apply them 223 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: for gender, racial, economic justice. But that being said, I 224 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: think that the strategy, um, I think the strategy frankly, 225 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: there's a good case that came out of Florida by 226 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: a Jewish synagogue right saying that this is a violation 227 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: of my religion, really setting up other core constitutional rights 228 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: that are being undermined by this decision and by state 229 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: laws I think are very smart, you know, the the 230 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: duty of care that's owed by physicians, religious freedom to 231 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: have bodily autonomy. I think that these are places where 232 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: you know that hypocrisy can be and those contradictions can 233 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: be seized on by the right federal courts potentially, you know, 234 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: I do think though that that aside, we are definitely 235 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: going to have to be changing who is selecting judges 236 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: who are on our bench. I mean we I'm not 237 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: the only one that thinks that about administration needs to 238 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: be thinking about much more radical steps right now in 239 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: terms of the courts, composition, etc. But you know, I 240 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: don't think there's any even pretense of intellectual judicial integrity 241 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: in what happened on Friday, And hopefully the voters will 242 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: see that as well, because well, unlike guns, I think 243 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I think reproductive justice do hit core economic justice rights 244 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: works which are very important to a wider swath of voters. 245 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go back to the point 246 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: that you just made about the Biden administration because I 247 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: will tell you that you know, with the people that 248 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: I speak to on a regular basis, there is a 249 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: deep frustration that is growing with this administration and their 250 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: lack of sense of urgency, the lack of urgency, the 251 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: lack of strategic thinking right, the lack of pushing boundaries 252 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: to the limits that the federal government has. What the 253 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: voters keep hearing is, Oh, we can't do this, we 254 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: can't do that. Oh it's up to Congress. Um. So 255 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on what is it 256 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: that you do believe that the administration could be taking 257 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: the steps that they could be taking, or frankly freaking 258 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: the steps that they should have been taking. Knowing uh, 259 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, several weeks ago when we got the draft 260 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: decision that this was coming down the pike. So it 261 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: was like as if everyone was just kind of sitting 262 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: around in the democratic establishment and in this administration, you know, 263 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: just looking up at the sky or naval gazing, and 264 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: we're saying our rights are under attack. So and and 265 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: you know, just recently, Vice President Harris did an interview 266 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: where she's being asked about their sense of urgency. People 267 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: want you to do something now, and she goes, do 268 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: what now? So what what is your response to that? 269 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: You know, there's comes a point in the movement where 270 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if your strategy works, it's the fact 271 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: that you pursued it. And I think that, UM, I 272 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: think that I find this this frustration often with people 273 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: in Washington who are very cognizant of the rules, UM, 274 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: but they are not cognizant of the optics of not 275 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: even trying to break them, you know, making moves right 276 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: now to expand the Supreme Court, you know, getting getting 277 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: the DOJ and others with all the state attorney generals 278 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: and supporting state by state defense with the resources of 279 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: the administration, right being a leader in coordinating that, um, 280 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: you know, making moves to you know, make sure that 281 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: the Equal Rights Amendment is past and then bringing a 282 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: bringing a you know, a counter student as a violation 283 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: of that constitutional right. You know, thinking about um, you know, 284 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: not to mention all the legislative you know fixes that 285 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: should be coming up again and again and again and 286 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: making the election about those legislative fixes, right. I mean, 287 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: as we sit you know, as we sit here, Barbara 288 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: Lee has an amazing you know bill that would have 289 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: countered what happened, and it's just that comes and goes 290 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: and then it's quiet. I just think they need a 291 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: concerted legal, legislative executive strategy UM its regulatator story strategy 292 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: and frankly, a mobilizing strategy UM and and working with 293 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: progressive governors in this moment um. You know, we've got 294 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: the governor of We've got the governor of Michigan challenging 295 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: a book that's been on you know, a law that's 296 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: been in the book since nineteen thirty one that would 297 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, felonizes uh uh you know abortion and reproductive 298 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: healthcare access. That's challenging it in court, right, and lending 299 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: those resources and being vocal about it. Um. You know, 300 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: it can't be like, well, it's just all going to 301 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: be about the election. This has happened right now, Um, 302 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, getting pursuing less AOC doing. How do we 303 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: how do we get rid of these these judges that 304 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: lied about respecting precedent um? You know, I mean they 305 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: lied under oath, right, and your lawyer, so you tell me, 306 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: isn't lying under oath? Isn't isn't there a penalty for that? 307 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: These are the kinds of you know, these are the 308 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: kinds of uh, you know, actions that I think would 309 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: really you know, build faith among those of us who 310 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: know the incredible harm and devastation and the lives that 311 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: will be lost because of this decision. So UM, you know, 312 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: I think that we in the legal community, we use activists. 313 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: We are trying to embold m federal action and executive 314 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: action as much as possible, so we've got your back. 315 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Do what we're doing. UM in California at the federal level, 316 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: introduce a package of thirteen bills at once that talks about, 317 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, respecting the hippocratic oath of doctors, that talks 318 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: about um potentially you know, equal protection, cause claims for 319 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: base sick worker rights to do their jobs. You know, 320 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, there are so many who who are bringing 321 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, bills about religious freedom, for bodily autonomy, take 322 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: your cues. There are so many strategies that are calculating 323 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: in the states that are you know, very exciting and 324 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: creative and they could be a roadmap for executive and 325 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: federal action right now. And I think that that would, um, 326 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, we just need the severity of what happened 327 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: to be met by it, you know that kind of response. Um, 328 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: And uh, it's it's really I mean, and also from 329 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, from corporate America, from every from every source. 330 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: We need to be reading this as it is because 331 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: you can bet that there's been you know, five decades 332 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: of organizing for this moment by the right wing and um, 333 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're just going to be battered by state 334 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: laws right now. Um, in the absence of really clear 335 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: exactetive in federal action. I mean, why do you think 336 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: that we became so complacent? And I mean the collective 337 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: we progressives, Democrats because you know, the thing that I 338 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: keep talking about is that I'm not so certain why 339 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: all of this was a shock. Republicans have been organizing 340 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: in plain sight for fifty years. They've been telling you, 341 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump told you right that I am going to 342 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: elect conservative judges who do not believe in a person's 343 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: right to choose you. Democrats knew this when Obama was 344 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: in office and allowed Mitch McConnell to hold a Supreme 345 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: Court seat hostage and didn't push back. We allowed Amy 346 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Covid Barrett to be elected to to be appointed to 347 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and when the Biden administration came in, 348 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: there was no pushback to that fact. Democrats did not 349 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: put up a fight to block to block her from 350 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: being placed on the bench. It's it's everyone keeps thinking 351 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: that we're going to get another bite at the apple, 352 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: and I said it's done. So I'm just I want 353 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: to know, like, how do you think that we got here. 354 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot. I think it's a lot, 355 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of forces at play. And you're right, we 356 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 1: only have ourselves to blame. But you know, when we 357 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: when we hear in the writings like you're right, Justice 358 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Barret about we could be leaving babies at you know, 359 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: the steps of churches. You know, we're talking about children 360 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: that are eleven, twelve years old getting pregnant and having 361 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: babies without the access to abortion. Um. You know, I 362 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: it doesn't come as a surprise to me because I 363 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: don't know that this country has ever taken seriously really 364 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: fighting the patriarchy or racist power structures. We see that 365 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: in you know, this abortion ban is in the context 366 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: of the contraction of basic support that allow women and 367 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: people with uteruses, and people with family to work, to 368 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: be educated. Let's just talk about education. This is the 369 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary of Title nine, which is supposed to ensure 370 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: that every kid in this country has equal access to education. 371 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: How is that possible if you can't decide when and 372 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: if to have children? So, I, you know, you and 373 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: I both know that this has never just been about abortion. 374 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: It is about the control benefit, the benefit that comes 375 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: out of gendered roles. You know, yet in women out 376 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: of the workplace, dependent on male read winners, out of 377 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: the political process that impacts their lives, and so I 378 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: think that people across the aisle benefit from that. We 379 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: don't need to look any further than the fact that 380 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: we could not pass a universal childcare package, that the 381 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: twenty six states that are now forcing births have not 382 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: passed paid leave in their states, And so I think 383 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: it we we really hurt ourselves when we continue to 384 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: talk about issues in siloed ways, because it just makes 385 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: you feel like you're whackamling. And I'm sure that that's 386 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: what's happening at the federal level. Let's get this one. 387 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: Let's get this let's do this as opposed to saying, 388 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: unless you're really taking a comprehensive approach, these are going 389 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: to accumulate to a perfect storm of what happened on Friday, 390 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: and that will continue to storm over the country for 391 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: decades to come. And I just think that we need 392 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: we need leaders that are articulating this in that way, 393 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: and we need voters to get it in that way. 394 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: And there's such a conservatism about even I mean, you 395 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: and I talked about this the last time. I don't 396 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: even think the word was abortion. Abortion was used in 397 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: the last presidential address. He I literally I sat there big, 398 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: and I was and I was and I'm listening to 399 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: this emergency address in the afternoon, and I was waiting, 400 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: and it was like, what ten fifteen minutes, abortion was 401 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: not uttered. And I said, what the fuck? Like in 402 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: this particular time, at this moment where people are running 403 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: out of their homes into the streets to protests, and 404 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, when abortion was just 405 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: taken away from over fifty percent of the population, you 406 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: can't say the word, So then how do you plan 407 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: on fighting? You know? I think I think that obviously, 408 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: we hope all of these things become calls to action, 409 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: but to day to day, Congress could be introducing a 410 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: constitutional amendment in conjunction with progressive governors in every state, 411 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: introducing constitutional amendments state and federal that are explicit about 412 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: the right to abortion, the right saying the word sex 413 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: and race instead of just equal protection in our constitution, 414 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: and and really using it as a two year campaign 415 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: until the presidential election to rally every single states stayed 416 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: around basic human rights. We need to stop thinking about 417 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: what we can get and lead with the vision of 418 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: what people need now and simultaneously, and I just think 419 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: we're going to We're going to get a lot further 420 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: that way. And so I you know, I'm not just 421 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: looking at sort of you know, the incredible creativity in 422 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, judicial and legal advocacy over the next two years. 423 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm also looking for the bravery of electeds. You know, 424 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: they've got an opportunity, as folks are, you know, approaching 425 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, November, to really lay out very bold and 426 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: visionary plans. And that's where we have to put our votes, 427 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: and that's where I have to put our money. I'm 428 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: saying this as a C three leader, of course, I 429 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: want to activate people on issues, and you know, frankly, 430 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: who the candidate is, you know, is less important than 431 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: what they're trying to what their what their vision is. UM. 432 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I think there are these 433 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: lofty practical legal concerns, but then there's also we're really 434 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: focused on basic access money. How do we engage high 435 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: road employers, how do we keep them from getting sued 436 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: for just giving travel money? UM? You know, so I 437 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: think that this is UM. There's a lot of people 438 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: from within the community's most impacted who've been leading the 439 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: fight to protect abortion for decades. UM, we need to 440 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: continuer center that leadership. They know what their communities need 441 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: on the ground, and hopefully those will be the ones 442 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: that will be you know, activated by visionary political leaders 443 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: in this moment. Um it is it is there for 444 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: the taking. Uh. And I just we just have to 445 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: hope that. UM, you know, we keep amplifying that. UM, 446 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: this isn't the time for mild mild mannard sitting on 447 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: your hands, gasho, geez, it really isn't. This is this 448 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: is the decimation, decimation of progress across decades. Last question 449 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: for you, Noreen, real quick, UM, one of the questions 450 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: that I was asked recently on MSNBC was well, Danielle, 451 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, will the temperature cool off from the anger? 452 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: Will this be what is going to move people to 453 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: the polls? And I will say that the way that 454 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: the question was asked was not correct, because the question 455 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: was will this get white women to the polls? Right? 456 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: But it was asked it was it was phrased in 457 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: the way around suburban women and we all know what 458 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: those euphemisms mean. But the temperature in this country right now, 459 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Noreen is hot right like we are. We are at 460 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: we are at fever level. And I and I am wondering, 461 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: do you believe that the level of rage that people 462 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: are feeling now is going to sustain them for November. 463 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: I think the most powerful asset and strength we have 464 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: right now through November are our stories I and people 465 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: like you bringing them forward. You know, there was that 466 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Twitter where I saw about the medical profession coming out 467 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: to talk about eleven year old girls being pregnant. That 468 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: just you know, I know that intellectually, I know those stories, 469 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: but we have to keep up the drum beat of 470 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: the people most impacted that I think those stories of 471 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, people having to get abortions, with dying babies, 472 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: with women just having too many children, or people with 473 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: you to rose, having too many Telling our stories bringing 474 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: humanity forward is really going to be a very very 475 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: powerful tool to keep that drum beat up, because as 476 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: long as you can put your you know, your head 477 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: in the sand and be like, you know, this is 478 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: about people not using contraception correctly, you know, bringing up 479 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: the where this is going, not just the slippers slope, 480 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: the cliff of where this is going. Come on, I 481 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: don't think that there is a single person in this 482 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: country that it won't touch. Um, this this right wing agenda, 483 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: and I do think continually bringing that up and having 484 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: those shared stories of humanity is going to be critically 485 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: important to keep us mad, to keep the urgency, to 486 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: make us everyone remember this is a matter of life 487 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: and death, and also you know, centering those most impacted 488 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 1: as our leaders, as voters and elections and those voices. Um, 489 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: I think it's incumbent upon us, and you know we 490 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: we intend to do that organizationally, and you know with 491 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: those of us in our movement, well, Mariene um wokay 492 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: Off is here with you and this fight, and so 493 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: we hope to have you back many times us as 494 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: we continue to cover this story, as we continue to 495 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: lift up voices of people and to tell the story 496 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: of what this radical right wing agenda is trying to 497 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: do in this country as well as around the world. 498 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. 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