1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Watch Them Whip, watch Them 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: natie Fulcome back to another edition up the Around the 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by New Era. Name is Dan Hansas 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: joint the Room Build with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys, Hey, Drew, Happy Monday. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: It's grind thirty Mark. It is worked yesterday, so it's 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: already in the middle of my week grindt it's grind 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: quarter to grind, big, big, big weekend. Greg, How is 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: your weekends? Delicious? Delicious? Sure? Why not? That's good? So 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: I barely ate. So that's maybe the right nice descriptive word, though, 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: because later on in today's show, we're gonna use one 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: word describing a team player situation after one week of 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: training camp. Delicious a nice way to describe the weekend, 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: even if it's not literally about food. Yeah, it was 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: just you know, on there's a lot to chew on. 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Very nice, well done? Uh, West I was your weekend? 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: It was delicious. I made my thirty six ingredients spaghetti 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: sauce yesterday thirty six. Oh, I've got plenty. I'll bring 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: it in. Are you just throwing random things from the 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: refrigerator in when you get past. First of all, that's 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: how people should cook. Whatever is in your kitchen, you 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: throw it in. That's how cooking has always been done. 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: This idea that you have to follow a recipe is ridiculous. 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: Was like a Southern woman from nineteen twelve. The sugar 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: cooking is done. That's the art of it. Like this 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: idea that there's a recipe, You'll never be a good 27 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: cook if you follow recipes because you're doing someone else's cookie. Mark. 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: You're a noted food atarian, So maybe you wouldn't use 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: delicious as a descriptive term, but maybe maybe it would. 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: How was your weekend? B minus C, C plus tops. 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: I saw your friend I have my grapes, your friend 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Nicki Glazer at the Battle I went to the taping 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: of Roast Battle. Did you say that you you worked 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: with me and we're best friends. Did you talk to her? Now? 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't a deep conversation or anything. I 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: saw your friend Tony gesle Nick at a Jeff Frost 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: taping a couple of years back and introduced myself. He 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: was very nice. Hey, great, I worked with him. That 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: would have been a nice like comedian trade off there, 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: complete the circle conversation. Yeah maybe next time. Uh yeah, 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: So we got a good show coming up today, Yes, 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: the one word seg and then some news including uh uh, 43 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: we're down to just one rookie, first round rookie without 44 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: a deal, thank goodness, my team is not attached, and 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: some deaz Brian juice. You know it's uh, it's it's 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: that time. It's that time, folks, it's time to talk 47 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: some football. Let's do some news. They were with the dogs, 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: that are but they're like so my husband picked them 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: up and they've been so anxious and stressed out ever 50 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: since he got them. So I think they had a 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: tough vacation. What is that? I mean, I know it's 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf I have I haven't heard Colleen it so long. 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's her. What is the 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: remote like feed? And that was her talking during inside 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: training camp and I was just listening to that and 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: she's gonna love that, and I had to clip it 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: off because this is just on my TV. That is fair. 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: She was on vacation for roughly forty five to fifty 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: days and with the dogs, so the dogs probably are 60 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: a little antsie at this time. It's on brand for 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Erica's appreciation slash. You know, maybe obsession with Colleen. It's 62 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: a real thing. Yes or no? Yeah, it's mutual though, 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: no doubt, definitely mutual. There's tons of evidence to point 64 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: that it's mutual. If I see MVB back there, not 65 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: or shake your head? Is the obsession mutual? Emma, Let's 66 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: start with yes. The first round rookies, UH Sam Donald 67 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and the Jets get a deal done, and thank god. 68 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: UH rap sheet reported Monday that the Jets and Donald 69 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: agreed to terms four year, thirty point to five million, 70 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. The signing became official this morning. Donald joined 71 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: his new teammates on the field and practice. So that 72 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: drama is in the rear view, and it was a 73 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: very Jets drama shaping up. So I'm very happy and 74 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know and I don't even care. Honestly, 75 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: the hold up, I believe it was about offsets. I 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: don't know who one who lost. I don't care. It's annoying, 77 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: but that's taking care of and it leaves just one 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: UH first round er without a deal, and it's Bears 79 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: linebacker uh ro Quan not re kuon Roquan Smith who 80 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: still doesn't have a deal, and um and he's it's 81 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: part of the hold up is potential fines or punishment 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: that could be tied into the league's new helmet rules. 83 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: So that's if I'm ambarrassing and I'm a little nervous, 84 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: because that just sounds dicey. Let's start with Donald. Your thoughts, Mark, 85 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean with Donald. I almost feel that when this 86 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: bubbled up, uh, that there there was this snag over 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: the weekend that was making this more of an issue 88 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: because Greg made the point on Friday down in the office, like, listen, 89 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: if Donald's still not there on Monday, Dan, we're gonna 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: have to finally talk about him because it's becoming no, no, no. 91 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: But it's just kind of you felt like, this will 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: get done, they'll solve this away. But I almost thought 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: that the swift reaction against Donald's camp and the Jets 94 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: might have pushed both sides to end the ugly pr 95 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: and get this thing done, because it really wasn't a 96 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: very typical thing that they were caught up on. It 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: was forfeiture language, according to Michael Silver and the other 98 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: other reporters had it based on other stuff forfeiture language 99 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: means like it's you could lose guaranteed money if you 100 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: get hurt skiing or or silver referenced hiking. I don't 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: know how much hiking Sam Donald does, but apparently he 102 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: is very obsessed with that side hobby Off the field, 103 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: he's I don't know about the forfeit your language, and 104 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't any football fan cares about the forfeit language. 105 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: But he's gonna get all twenty million of his signing 106 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: bonus within the next two weeks, which good for Sam Donald. Yeah, 107 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal that he missed 108 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: a few days. But the battle that they were having 109 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: contractually included really the same topic as as Roquan Smith does. 110 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Is basically, can they take away your guaranteed money for 111 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: on field rules violations? And so that se Kwan Barkley 112 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: had written into his context contracts, so he's protected. The 113 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: Jets did bend on that topic, and so the Bears. 114 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to like put from our perspective, blame on 115 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: one side or another. It's just annoying. The system is 116 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: not set up to have But in this case, it 117 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: really does seem like the Bears are trying to get 118 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: something a little ridiculous that no other teams are trying 119 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: to get and that the Bears are out on an island, 120 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: and Roquan Smith's agent understandably is trying to not set 121 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: a precedent. I think you can quite whether it's worth 122 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: it for an organization to have their first round pick 123 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: miss extended action over fines on field suspension from on 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: field rules like suspensions and fines from that, Like, it's 125 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: not worth it to have him missed that time and 126 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: there and there. It's a new development that they're trying 127 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: to insert this into the contract. The rookie is reported 128 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: for the Bears two weeks ago, so this is a 129 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: pretty long hold out for Kuan smith Um And another 130 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: new Jets news, new uniforms coming next year. If they 131 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: bring back the eighties Jets, was gonna say, is it 132 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: new or are you're gonna revert to I don't know. 133 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: I bet it'll be like a combination where maybe the 134 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: eighties Jets back. But it's like a I would just say, 135 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for, because I was excited 136 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: when just put like Cleveland again across the jet they 137 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: can have Cleveland's current uniforms is there only I do 138 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: like the Jets didn't try to like pretend like they 139 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: were punishing Donald for this at all. He jogged onto 140 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: practice halfway through it starting, he gets us slow clap 141 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: and he immediately is getting first team reps. You get 142 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: and we have props on a lot of sandwiches on 143 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: the line of tag team sandwich prop. If he missed 144 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: too much more time, it really would have put into 145 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: peril any chance of a Week one starting. Now it's 146 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: remains wide open. Moving on, the Seattle Seahawks last season 147 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger on a trade to acquire left tackle 148 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown UH from the Texans. He immediately filled a 149 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: void for Seattle UH and now the two sides are 150 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: locked into a long term deal. The team announced they've 151 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: signed Brown to a multi year contract extension. Rap Sheet 152 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: reports the deal where thirty six point five million UM. 153 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: This has been something that's going on four weeks. Brown 154 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: had been set to enter the final year of a 155 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: contract worth nine point seven five million. Now he's in 156 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Seattle through one. Everybody getting paid on the line right now. Greg, Yeah, 157 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: you he improved them immediately, and so if you're a 158 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: halfway decent starter, he's now you know, signed until he's 159 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: thirty six years old. I think there's a chance that 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: the Seahawks offensive line is significantly better because of Dwayne 161 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: Brown and because of just getting rid of Tom Cable. 162 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: That if if you just have a sort of average 163 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: coaching and a little bit of Dwayne Brown, then maybe 164 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: they're fine, and that's a big room for improvement. It's 165 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: a huge spot for them, an issue for them for 166 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: years and years, and they gave up a two eighteen 167 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: third round in two thousand nineteen second round or so. 168 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: You couldn't let this deal not get done. You've already 169 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: You've already put resources into Brown. His strong play down 170 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: the stretch really obscured how henept the rest of the 171 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: offensive line was because he was on the field for 172 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: those games when Aaron Donald was just wrecking the entire 173 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: line and Russell Wilson couldn't do anything. So you've got 174 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown, But I'm far from convinced that they're going 175 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: to be a better offensive line this year. Uh. In 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: injury news, yes, it's training camp. Guys are practicing. People 177 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: get hurt. It sucks. Will start with the Panthers, where 178 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: right tackle Darryl Williams suffered a dislocated kneecap and an 179 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: m c l tare on Saturday and practice. Uh, no 180 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: timetable yet, but this seems like something that could end 181 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: uh Williams this season? How much is this gonna hurt Carolina? Was? Well, 182 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: you would think if you spend a second round pick 183 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: on a guy the year before Taylor and Morton, Uh, 184 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: the guy they drafted last year, did he ought to 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: be ready after a year of coaching in the NFL 186 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: in the weight room, that he ought to be ready 187 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: to step right in at right tackle and maybe not 188 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: be that Pro Bowl level guy that Daryl Williams was 189 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: last year, but good enough. But this is why guys 190 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: hold out. You know, he was an All Pro who 191 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: was underpaid going into his contract year and if he 192 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: held out, he probably would have just gotten a big contract. 193 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: And only in football is it when news comes out 194 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: that he's got a dislocated kneecap or whatever it is 195 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: and in a torn mc l and and everyone was like, oh, 196 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: great news, good, good news. Not as bad as everyone 197 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: expected because when he went down, they thought, Okay, he's 198 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: out for the year, and now he's like, maybe not 199 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: out for the whole year. He's maybe overturn doesn't sound like, 200 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: well what this next in Drew to talk about ties 201 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: into that. So that was, you know, wishful thinking to 202 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: try to tie Williams's injury into something that wasn't too serious. 203 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Ramon Foster for the Steelers, he collapses in a heap, 204 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: he gets carted off from practice. You're expecting, oh god, 205 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: that we just lost our guard, major injury, lost for 206 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the season. No, it's hyper extended, which is the best 207 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: case scenario in this situation. Uh, and a bone bruise. 208 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: He's expected him his four or five weeks um, so 209 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: his status for Week one up in the air. But 210 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: that could have been worse than obviously looked terrible and 211 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Twitter was freaking out about it for a moment. Well 212 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: that's the window they're hoping week one. And this guy's 213 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: played more snaps for Pittsburgh than any other player on 214 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: the offensive roster since two thousand nine, so he's been 215 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: he's been durable, he's been part of that offense. He's 216 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: not young, but they I guess for them, it's b J. 217 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: Finney is the backup Western you're scouting report on b 218 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: J Finney. I'll leave that team. He's fine. They got 219 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: away with Marcus Gilbert at right tackle out for a 220 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: big person last year, they'll be fine it from Foster 221 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: misses a game or two. Uh. And finally Elijah McGuire, 222 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: Jets second year rookie, had had some moments last year 223 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: and it looked like he had a a roster spot 224 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: locked up this year. Uh, he suffered a broken foot. 225 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to undergo surgery. He'll be out six weeks. 226 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Could get the Boomerang I R designation. Will see, and 227 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: that could be good news for Thomas Rawls. If you're 228 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: wondering where's Thomas Rawles these days, he's on the Jets 229 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: roster trying to make the team. He's a bubble guy. 230 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: This might allow him to catch on the Jets backfield 231 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: is somewhat wide open, I think, so we'll see how 232 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: that shakes out. Uh. Dez Bryant on Friday. You know, 233 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: it's the afternoon in the news room, and everybody wants 234 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: to unwind a little bit. Maybe, but there was no unwinding, 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: especially not for young Mark sessler Um, who was tasked 236 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: with writing a story about Dez, who went ham. He 237 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: went nuts on Twitter when people started I guess we're 238 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: adding him about or actually he saw the Stephen Jones, 239 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: the president of the Cowboys and Jared's son, had made 240 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: a comment how Dac could be better this season because 241 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: he'll be able to progress without having Dez in his face, 242 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, all the time, which seemed unnecessary and does 243 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: his defense. So Dez starts going at it with people 244 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter, making statements about how the team treated him, 245 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: how certain players on the team, including Sean Lee uh 246 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: talk behind his back and weren't real with him, leading 247 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: to one of the immortal nicknames, Snake Lee sounds like 248 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: a wrestler from the eighties. So Dez not happy and 249 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: still a free agent, perhaps a little bit surprising mark 250 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: that he would be uh so vocal about his displeasure 251 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: with this former team when you really maybe want to 252 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: put your best foot forward while unemployed. Well, right, because 253 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: while this was happening in the atmosphere was another report 254 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns are interested in bringing in Dez 255 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Bryant with Josh Gordon, you know, in abstentiate at the moment. 256 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: So it's a bad looking for sure, And there are 257 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: actually people that have been hanging around Cleveland's camp sort 258 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: of saying, no, this is not a good person to 259 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: this is. This would not be the right person to 260 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: bring into what the Browns have in their wide receiver 261 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: room that they were told they have some characters in 262 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: there to begin with. But I just think if you're 263 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant too, where would you go where you're probably 264 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: going to be the third or fourth receiver. That's not 265 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: a good That's not a good mix for him. I 266 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: don't think in there. Let's open the kimono a little 267 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: bit here. At the same time you were writing about 268 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: this and was tweeting, I was tasked with writing a 269 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: post that Dez was going to sign with a different team, 270 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: and neither the Brown team, neither the Browns nor this 271 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: undisclosed team has signed him. Since all these tweets didn't 272 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: report on their Jane Slater that another team was interested, 273 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: and he said that team was not bothered by his 274 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: tweet storm, that whatever their interest level was was not 275 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: going to be affected. We'll see. I don't know, it 276 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been signed yet, but maybe it's not a huge 277 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: her if the listeners find it interesting that we're saying, 278 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: but what team? And and West is hinting that he 279 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: knows the team. I guess what we don't. We do 280 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: know the team, but we will not tell you because 281 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: we're journalists and we protect our sources and we protect 282 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: our own fellow colleagues in the field. I have no 283 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: sources on this, Jane does I have. I have so 284 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: many thoughts on this not for us, right, it's not 285 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: my place, but I'll start with that. The whole storyline 286 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: is especially annoying because it was all based on a 287 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: growing terrible trend, which is that whoever was running serious 288 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: x MS Twitter account is basically responsible for this entire 289 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: story because he pair of he or she paraphrased it 290 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: poorly when the full tweet. When the full quote came out. 291 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: Number one Jason Witten was also included as a guy 292 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: in des Bryan's here, and with a little more context, 293 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: it didn't sound quite as bad the way that they paraphrase. 294 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: And if you're going to paraphrase something, you better get 295 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: the true meaning of the quote, right. And whoever was 296 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: learning that Twitter account, and I don't know if they 297 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: were trying to get more attention or if they were 298 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: just being lazy, made it sound made Stephen Jones sound 299 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: a lot worse, and so does Bryant I think understandably 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: got upset based on hearing that and and all of 301 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: this discussion for a couple hours on Twitter and across 302 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: the country is because some someone did poorly at their 303 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: could have been avoided entirely. I mean that said, it 304 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: takes the Dez Bryant half of the equation to respond 305 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: the way he did. Not every player would decide to 306 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: do right. And the comment was still a little uh 307 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: poking the bear unnecessarily at Dez, but it wasn't quite 308 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: as dramatic, and it did include Jason Witten in it. 309 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: The nature of Twitter often leaves out context. That's just 310 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: the way it is. I I also thought my other 311 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: takeaway was the Cowboys are the Cowboys because there is 312 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: no other team in the league that would make Shan Lee, 313 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: who had spoken to the media the day before, talk 314 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: to the media for thirty seconds while walking off the 315 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: field without probably even have seen the tweet himself. Sure, 316 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure the PR director gave him a background, but 317 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: he basically said, Sean, you gotta address this from media 318 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: right now. Everyone else would just try to avoid the issue, 319 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: but instead they want the story to be as big 320 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: as possible until they get Sean Lee to comment on it, 321 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: and he was, you know, pretty pretty hardcore about that 322 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: they should have been more of a leader last year. 323 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: And then it really blows up. That would drive me 324 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: crazy if I was a certain type of personality, if 325 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: I was a guy that sought to avoid that type 326 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: of circus and my team was asking me to feed 327 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: into it. That is like, you can't be a coach 328 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: for the Calvin unless you're willing to to be as media, 329 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: you know, available as possible. Speaking of Jason Witten and 330 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: social media, I came across this in Peter King's Football 331 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: Morning in America column. I thought it was interesting. Uh. 332 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: Witten wrote a piece for ESPN, who he now works for, 333 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: about the impact of social media in locker rooms, and 334 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting. I'll just read a little blurb 335 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: from his bigger piece, which you could mind again at ESPN. 336 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: One of the defining images of the modern locker room 337 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: isn't a fiery postgame speech or a group of guys strategizing. 338 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: It's players with their heads down, buried in their phones. 339 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: The impact it's not good. I've seen the negative impact 340 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: social media can have, particularly on younger players who grew 341 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: up with Twitter and Instagram as an integral part of life. 342 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: A player checking Twitter at halftime. I've seen it the 343 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: most concerning, watching a really talented player corrupt his mind 344 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: and confidence by reading all the critiques from anonymous football 345 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: experts around the world. Negative social media can ruin a player. 346 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Reading your mentions, it's poison. Uh. This kind of ties 347 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: into what you said Greg about somebody on the Sirius 348 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: XM could miss quote or miss paraphrase and it could 349 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: cause a whole issue. This is the other side of 350 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: it that players can really These young guys are really 351 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: affected by what they're seeing about themselves on Twitter. I 352 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: think Winton's advice is spot on, and this is one 353 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: of the reasons I have been heavy on the block 354 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: since the early part of Twitter. Then, if you do 355 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: read your mentions, you can be I'm obsessed with it, 356 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: and you can waste a lot of time replying to people. 357 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: It can affect your psychology, your psyche based on what 358 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: people say about you, and you can get caught saying 359 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: something back to one of these people that will cost 360 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: you your job. It's better to block. It's better to 361 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: ignore these TrooLS than to engage. And I think Jameson wenton, 362 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: is exactly right. This article was brilliantly written. And I'm 363 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: starting to look at the Cowboys and say, essentially, if 364 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: you work, if you played for the Cowboys, you want 365 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: to go announce, you become Tony Romo, and you become 366 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: the best announcer in the entire league in year one. 367 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: And this article is better than like of the stuff 368 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: that's on our own website. Are you sure he wrote it? Yes? 369 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: I am sure he wrote it. I really think he did, 370 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: because he actually probably Brooks Sam who type who works. 371 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: But it's pretty it's you can't you can't dry. I mean, 372 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: you couldn't make a movie that I mean. He wrote 373 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: this the morning before this all happened with Dez Bryant. 374 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: It was on it was on ESPN, and then that 375 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: that happens later in the day. He said, one teammate, 376 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: and I I had I started trying to think who 377 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: it might be. He said he saw one teammate get 378 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: completely swallowed up by Twitter feedback, that it's sort of 379 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: that a person kind of caved, and my immediate thought was, like, 380 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: who is that? And des Bryant was certainly one person 381 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: I thought maybe could have been a candidate for that 382 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: who knows. Yeah, I mean also players apparently are way 383 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: into PFF and it could affect them negatively there as well. UM, 384 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: which is obviously just some guys that are watching the 385 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: games and handing out grades which are fairly arbitrary. But 386 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: the players, they really are connected and two connected perhaps, 387 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: but you get it's a human thing. Well, nobody's themselves 388 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I think that's like, if you're an athlete, 389 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: all these people who would never say anything to your face, 390 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: they say the most despicable things to two athletes, Like 391 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: to me, if I was a pro athlete, I would 392 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: not engage on social media in that way at all. 393 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: UH and other news this is interesting. Da Bielie of 394 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: Courses in the running to be west as the best 395 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: Man next year. Also, UH has found himself in a 396 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: maybe I would call him mini feud with the Cleveland Browns. 397 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: We're taking a trip to the dog pend um over 398 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: naming rights of young puppies that the Browns are seeking 399 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: to adopt on social media. See it's not all bad, 400 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: UH and UH, as we know, except this turn ugly 401 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: so that show last week UH eally suggested a name. 402 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: It was a Miles McGruff. Uh, that would have been better. 403 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: It was Miles Guff, which the Browns then used but 404 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: then didn't credit eally, which got really ticked off. And 405 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: then uh. Dave followed up on Friday with Hey, at Browns, 406 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I have another dog named suggestion Jabriel Puppers, which he 407 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: also said on this podcast. She also said on this podcast. 408 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: And then sure enough today the Browns posted another dog, 409 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: a real beautiful young animal. I was looking for the breed, 410 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: but they don't have it listened in the tween anyway. 411 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: Uh me Jabriel Puppers. Oh a feist mix? Uh? And 412 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: again no credit given to Dave really and uh, what 413 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: do we have more on this? Mark? Well? I I 414 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: think the first instance, David really has a real case. 415 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Obviously in Cleveland, they probably had some sort of a 416 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: group of people sitting around brainstorming, going through the roster 417 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: and picking up names, and Jabriel Puppers feels like something 418 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: that probably people would have come up with would be 419 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: my take. Great, do you have any more on this story? 420 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: The Browns responded, I didn't know that David suggested Jabriel Puppers, 421 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: And they said he's already on the list and gave 422 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: him a little passive aggressive wink. Maybe it was even 423 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: a sign that hey, we've had a list, you haven't 424 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: been necessarily coming up with these. But like for instance, Mark, 425 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: they went with because they could have done like the 426 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: hands up emoji or some type of thumbs up or 427 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: something else. The wink. Really you don't like his tone. 428 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: I would imagine he's coming back over and over saying no, 429 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: I came up with this, and I think I think 430 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: he's got a case. But at the same time, even 431 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: in our direct messaging client today, I suggested, how about 432 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: a manual aug Bark and Andy Yeah, but Andy Hagman, 433 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: our editor, said they already came up with that, and 434 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: it's a case in point. There's just this collective group 435 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: think here. Yeah, I think really like to take away 436 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: from me, is he really missed his calling that he 437 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: has the same brain that really like a social media 438 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: intern hands So this is causing you know, it's causing 439 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: a lot of drama between Eally and the Browns and 440 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: everything Mark, because Mark's always tied in with anything. But 441 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I used my boss, so I have to kind of 442 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I agree with you, Dave. I have 443 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: some sources actually down in the newsroom that Elie's continued 444 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: presence on this show and now with this running dog 445 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: bit here and he gets on it again is becoming 446 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: a bit of source of consternation and jealousy within the 447 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: Root newsroom. And I've actually obtained through these sorts and 448 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: audio file, an audio file which we're gonna listen to 449 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: right now. It's been two softball seasons where I've been 450 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 1: a star player and you guys talk about me and 451 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: then don't have me on, but then you call Frog 452 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: we need you to do a voice and who needs you? 453 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: That was that was brassy. That is catch That is 454 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: of the harangue that she went on for an hour. 455 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, she's our Dez Bryant, this character Brassie, who 456 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: she's She probably mentioned a handful of character on the show. 457 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: And she said that we've been exploiting her, that we're 458 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: using her name, uh, and that she is very upset 459 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: that she hasn't been on the show. There she mentioned Fraggs, 460 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: who has been done some voice over work. But she 461 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: also was very dismissive of of David Eally and his 462 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: presence on the show. Some of that I just decided 463 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: I could not put in good conscience on her air. Yeah. 464 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of times professionally in newsrooms in 465 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: my life here in other places, and I could say 466 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: that newsrooms are viper pits by their nature, and none 467 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: of this surprises me. But I just I think what 468 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: Brassie needs to understand, who is again a part time catcher? 469 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: Uh for our team? And she said she was a star? Yeah, 470 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: she was a part time catcher. I would say, what 471 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: did she say? Yeah, I's hear it again. It's been 472 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: two softball seasons where I've been a start player. Did 473 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: you guys talk about me? And then but then you 474 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: call from we need you to do a voice, And 475 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I think that's she is? She? You know, you know, Brassie, 476 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: she's the player, the charismatic player, the Santonio Holmes type 477 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: that that when things are the only player ever kicked 478 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: out of his own offensive Hundele. Yeah, exactly when things 479 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: are going good, And you can maybe put Des in 480 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: this category as well. He's a great or she's a 481 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: great person to have in the locker room, almost like 482 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: glue type character. But when things maybe start to swerve 483 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: in a not so great direction and the rats are 484 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: jumping off the ship, I'll leave it at that ship. 485 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Well I did. I did, uh tell her she does 486 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: have a point that she would be a great character. 487 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: So I'm in favor of having her on at some point, 488 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: and we'll have to talk. After all, we did offer 489 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: this one now. But now we can tell her, Look, 490 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: you have been on this. I'm not love other tone. 491 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I'll just put it that way. Yeah, but you're hanging 492 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: out at David Eely thing. It's a little bit of 493 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: God a few more minutes. That was the PG point. 494 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: Yet that was the we We had to get it 495 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: so safe. We don't want you guys didn't give her 496 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: a confirmed yes. Now. In fact, Greg left was waiting 497 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: for his uber and she was in the backyard, still 498 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: ranning about Greg threatening her and she doesn't appreciate it. Well, 499 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: I said, I said, look, you have to keep this 500 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: quiet until Monday. If you if you chattered anyone, that'll 501 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: prove she took that as a threat. Finally in the news, 502 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: very interesting developments down in the news room. Finally in 503 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: the news, Uh, David Ealely's favorite team, the Carol Line 504 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: of Panthers. They still have a superstar quarterback in the fold, 505 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: Cam Newton. And Uh this from ESPN staff writer David 506 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: Newton uh and uh. Cam Newton sported a pair of 507 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: fashionable sunglasses as he strutted through rows of teammates already 508 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: on the grass stretching at the start of Sunday's practice. 509 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something Cam said, ain't nobody dripping 510 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: like um dripping? And Mr Newton, the staff writer for ESPN, 511 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: then translated that to mean dripping means something that is 512 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: awesome or super cool. Look at look at Cam. Just 513 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: like changing the world. You know, more people learning vocab. 514 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: There's people dabbing all over the world now partly because 515 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: because of Cam. He's just that. But he is Cam 516 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: is you know, some people like Cam, some people don't 517 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: like him. But you will learn new things that maybe 518 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: don't always tie into your your nature or where you 519 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: grew up. Cam is a great guy to teach you 520 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: about things. Some things were work the dad worked. That 521 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: dripping that's out there that it's not like that's a 522 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: Cam creation, but he's bringing it to you know, people 523 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: like sports reporters. Uh, not everything works. Remember his fake 524 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: language he uses on Instagram. All his Insta posts have 525 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: a fake language that he uses like he's hit or miss. 526 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: He has but he never stops innovating and teaching, and 527 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: I respect that. It also means extremely highly fashionable, and 528 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 1: that if you look at his press conferences, the guy 529 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: is never dressed normally on any level. So I think 530 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: he's speaking. Greg played Cardi B's Drip song for us 531 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: at the fire pit the other night, and it's catchy 532 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: song of the summer. It's catchy, but you can't help 533 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: think that, like, so music songs were invented, say ten 534 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, because some someone had something profound to 535 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: say about the human condition, Like you're the one at 536 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: the camp fire who's going to speak out. You've got 537 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: this story, and in this case, this woman just has 538 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: bobbles dangling off body part that she thinks make her trip. 539 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: I just think, like that's is that what really we 540 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: need for music? I don't know, a creativity? Come on, 541 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: I did sometimes we slip into this segment. This is 542 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: the Greg likes rap. I didn't. He brought it almost 543 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: every show. What do we have? What is the name 544 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: of the song trip classic takeoff First of the Summer. 545 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's not a classic. That's what's happening 546 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: in the news. By the way, don't be self conscious 547 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: that Greg likes raps. I'm just saying, I didn't you know, 548 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: you made it sound like it's like a self promotional one. 549 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: He brought it up. I didn't bring it up. Greg 550 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: did not slide into that segment. It was okay, okay, Dan, 551 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: Dan keeps us. You know, if you're counting on. All right, 552 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. All right, here we go. 553 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: It's time to play the game. One word, one word 554 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: to describe something camps are about. There were some late stragglers, 555 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: which are way on my radar. By the way, there 556 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: were two or three teams that wait until Friday to report. 557 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Who's that? Which you know, Come on, guys, it wasn't 558 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: the Lions, wasn't not I will say it wasn't lines. 559 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say what the teams are. 560 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait and see how the rest of their 561 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: accounts out. If they if they're going on bowling trips, 562 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: and well, we're proud we're calling practice off. Let's go 563 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: to the arcade. You know who you are, and you 564 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: reported late. I will be watching this so you're not 565 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: convinced that it's it's They show up on a mandated day, 566 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: which is based on when their first preseason game shows up. There. Clearly, 567 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm not totally convinced. Clearly, I think they took a 568 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: loophole and they will pay for it once football comes around. Uh, 569 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: in regular season form anyway. So camps for the most 570 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: part are a week old. Everyone is preparing now for 571 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: the season. So, UM, let's now get into it. One 572 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: word to describe something we've picked up on and then UM, 573 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: an explanation. I'll get it going, just to to so 574 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: everybody knows actually what we're going for here. UM, I'll 575 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: start with the team, the defending champion Philadelphia Eagles. Why 576 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: not start with the champs? And the word here it 577 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: comes the word. I wrote it down on my phone 578 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: and ah, here it is. Here's the word. The Eagles 579 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: are maybe conflicted. How great is it that, uh, Carson 580 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Wentz is practicing and looks healthy. His head coach Doug 581 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: Peterson said that he maybe he's a little hesitant still, 582 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: and it's tying into what was a very serious knee injury. 583 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: I was a little bit I'm only now learning, uh, 584 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: and maybe because it was in the middle of the 585 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: season when it happened, and he just kind of. Oh. 586 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: He he tore his a c L. It happens, but 587 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: it was a more serious knee injury, uh than just 588 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: to torn a c L. He also ripped up his 589 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: L c L. So it's a considerable reconstructive knee surgery 590 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: that when Carson Wentz underwent and it was late last 591 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: year uh that he had the surgery, and maybe even 592 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: early January, as I recall, one of the waiting for 593 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: the swelling to go on down situations. Anyway, everything is 594 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: going in the right direction. He's practicing, uh, referenced the 595 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Peter King calm I read this morning. Uh. King was 596 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: at the camp and said that he was able to 597 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: avoid pass rushers, make good throws. Everything seems to be 598 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: in the right direction. But I would think that the 599 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Eagles must remain conflicted about how they're gonna play this 600 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: situation because you do have the defending Super Bowl MVP 601 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: in your building, your first uh, your schedule to start 602 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: uh the season uh is not unforgiving. I mean, they 603 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: could probably survive with Nick Foles and maybe even thrive 604 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: with Nick Foles. So I'm wondering what Carson Wentz is 605 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: gonna have the show to make them say all right, 606 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: we are a percent confident he's our Week one started, 607 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: because I don't think they should start him unless they 608 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: are fully confident that they're not putting any risk on 609 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: the on the situation. I think that's how medical teams 610 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL work. If he gets the green light, 611 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: he plays. If there's any reservation like they usually end 612 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: up playing. But they have such a good backup plan here, 613 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: they have the best backup plan possible. I don't think 614 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: that really figures into it. I think if he's cleared, 615 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: he plays. I don't think it matters who's behind him. 616 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: He's reportedly looked great everyone that's gone down and watched 617 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: the Eagles, and Doug Peterson essentially echoed it by saying, 618 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: if you didn't know that he had surgery, he just 619 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: looks the same. And so when I hear that in 620 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: the first few days of camp, I'm figuring it's gonna 621 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm expecting him to be the Week one starter barring 622 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: some sort of setback. What about the conflicted side about 623 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: how much to play him in the preseason and put 624 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: him out there and test him that way versus playing 625 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: it's safe getting him fully healthy. That maybe is where 626 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: they have to game plan for him in August. That's 627 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: a little ton of it because you don't want to 628 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: not give him enough work, and then you don't really 629 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: know how the knee is gonna operate when the comes 630 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: time to actually play, or if you give him too 631 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: much work and he suffers setback. All that stuff. They 632 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: have to be a little bit conflicted, but still, ultimately 633 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: it's a good problem. And the Eagles right now, a 634 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: lot of things around the Eagles are good. They are, 635 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: but they're balancing a lot of these situations. Outstand. Jeffrey 636 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: has an injury. I don't know that series, but Jason 637 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: Peters obviously coming back from a really serious injury. Brandon 638 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: Graham is coming back from surgery. Timmy Journ again probably 639 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: not gonna be ready for the beginning of the year 640 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: coming back from surgery. So they're managing a lot of 641 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: key players and trying to figure out when they're going 642 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: to be available. Mark, you are going to give us 643 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: one word, uh, involving the Indianapolis cults, I will as 644 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: soon as the drum roll begins rum roll, And I'm 645 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: hyphenating this word. It is sleeper cell. And I'll tell 646 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: you why you call to the drum roll, but didn't 647 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: wait for the drum roll I have. That's my fault, Erica, apologies, 648 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: Now you can end it. Sometimes I do my version 649 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: of Colleen, who you're obsessed with by not no in 650 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: how games operate um already slipping into a hyphenated two 651 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: word word. But sleepersion according to Erica, two way, it 652 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: goes both ways, according to you leave it right there. 653 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: She's not responding sleep her self for the cults, and 654 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: because I just viewed them as a sleep for all 655 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: of last season and for really for a while, and 656 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: I think under Pagano they to me had just lost 657 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: any sort of intrigue. Their luster was gone. And then 658 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 1: you've lost Andrew Luck. Last year they were a rough 659 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: watch week after week. Now over the weekend, because this 660 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: is about what happened in the last week. Finally we 661 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: get to see Andrew Luck play in this scrimmage and 662 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: he's nineteen of twenty two and full pads. And it's 663 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: not your forget the numbers, it's that he immediately is 664 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: connecting twice on deep passes with t Y Hilton. The 665 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: offenses is waking up and suddenly, look at this team 666 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: that I would have without Angrew Luck just simply buried 667 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: as a Top I pick in the next year's draft. 668 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: I could see them doing a little bit of damage. 669 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: They're not a complete team, but they never have been 670 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: with Andrew Luck. You could see them doing some damage, 671 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: riding basically riding Luck through the season, taking out a 672 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: few a f C South teams and being in the 673 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: mix in December. Sleeper cell a sleeper in the a 674 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: f C. Yes, I'm with you. That seen the week 675 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: a Sunday evening to a special you know, season ticket 676 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: holders come and watch the team situation. And there was 677 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: one tweet where Luck had hit four straight deep passes 678 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: and like that got me excited right this season, that 679 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite items and most significant I 680 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: think items of news that we've had because a week 681 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: ago at this time, you didn't really now, and now 682 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: now I think it's fair for Colts fans to get excited. 683 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: Sleeper cell extends to fantasy too. I want the Colts 684 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in a lot of shootouts with that defense in fantasy. 685 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: Sleeper cell is that hyphen It uh, it's a word. 686 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: It's just I'm seeing a lot of two words. Is 687 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: just saying no, no, I think that you have a 688 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: cold isn't the white isn't the White House? A word? No, 689 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: it's two No, it's two words. I'm going by definition. 690 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: You're going by amount of words you can. When I 691 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: when I realized the words, I feel like it's probably 692 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: the right. When when we got so booked on the 693 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: one word thing, I was like on the like the 694 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 1: soreus dot com during this podcast trying to find something 695 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: else for sleeper sell and it could not come up 696 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 1: with about sleeper a little boring. Okay, yeah, all right, um, 697 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: and again as we move on to the next person, West, 698 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 1: the name of the segment one word. This is one word, 699 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: wool gathering. Let me set you up. Sorrys um, that's 700 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: a word. I'll set you up. Jeez, Dallas cowboys, wool gathering. 701 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: That isn't word. I'm looking it up. It's probably used 702 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: by your grandma and grandpa at some point. All right, 703 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: they both passed on. But thanks for making up. Are 704 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: you gonna tell me what it means? And we all gathering? 705 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: One word? West is then the money indulgence and aimless 706 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: thought or dreamy imagining, absent mindedness, lost in fanciful dreams, 707 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: trying to stuff clouds into briefcases like the Cowboys are 708 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: doing with Tavon Austin and Cole Beasley. Give me a 709 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: break your day dreams of Tavon Austin. Is this hybrid 710 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: running back receiver getting fifteen touches a game leading your 711 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: receiver's room, Give me a brick, cool Beasley, We're gonna 712 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: have him run the whole route tree. We're not gonna 713 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: put the five ft nine white guy in the slot anymore. 714 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna put him outside and have n't beat the 715 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: best cornerbacks in the league on the outside. You guys, 716 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: don't check your mentions. Cole, you guys are wool gathering. 717 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: I knew West would be good at this game. By 718 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: the way, I knew this would be a West specialty. 719 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: Excellent word. Yeah, there's there's something to what he's saying 720 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: to like their backup situation, quarterback situation. It's funny how 721 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: the storylines are always based on what happened the previous year. 722 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: So like the year when after Romo got hurt. It's 723 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: like everyone's talking about the backup quarterbacks in Cowboys camp. 724 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: Now Dak Prescott's the starting quarterback. Their backup quarterbacks are 725 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, Mike White and Dalton them. And when I 726 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: and when I that that Dalton Strm is an undrafted 727 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: free agent, probably not in the mix there, but Mike 728 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: White and Cooper Rush, and they like Cooper Rush. And 729 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: I heard them talking, I might say, like and maybe 730 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: he's maybe he's fine. But when I hear them talking 731 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: about how they're really excited about the depth at their 732 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: quarterback position, that feels like a little cloud stuffing or whatever. 733 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: We'll gather he said cloud stuff and he said stuff 734 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: in those sales in your briefcase. Jerry loved it was 735 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: a great image, very good, very good football all the 736 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: neck pro football. All that is that what it's called. 737 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was one of the worst quarterbacks in the 738 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: league in the second half of last year. It will 739 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: be an interesting guy to track this year. Great, great 740 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 1: looking offensive line with like that was what killed Yeah, 741 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: I do too. Smith went down that that killed them 742 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: even more than when Zeke went down. In Football Outsiders 743 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: wrote about that great great purchase. If you're if you're 744 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: into little preseason book, Greg one word on the Tampa 745 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Okay, I didn't, I didn't know. We were 746 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: just looking for like a hard word or anything. Yeah, 747 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: I was just again the segment one word I was looking, 748 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: all right, Tama Bay Buccaneers. Awkward. Okay, all right, that 749 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: is my word, even his word in it. Awkward. They 750 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: put up all of these signs all around the stadium, 751 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: get excited for the next season. They're starting quarterback not 752 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: on any of those signs. Even more importantly, Ryan Fitzpatrick 753 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: is taking first team reps because he has to get 754 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: ready for the start of the season. Jamis Winston with 755 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: the backups sometimes with the first team. That's awkward. And 756 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: then what really made me want to talk about them 757 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: is that Dirk Cutter has talked to Jamis Winston about 758 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: possibly toning down his vocal leadership and that now I 759 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: don't know if this is this is something that that 760 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: the writers in Tampa, uh that I'm talking about. Roy Coming, 761 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: who wrote the column, said that maybe Jamis was going 762 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: to do anyways a little bit, maybe tamp it down 763 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: a little bit some of his antics. But the fact 764 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: that you have you the coach of your team kind 765 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: of telling your quarterback, hey, lead from behind. That was 766 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: his wording, maybe lead from behind this year. And this 767 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: is a coach without a lot of long term security 768 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: either and you're telling your starting quarterback that, and to me, 769 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: that's just awkward. And it's and what a point of 770 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: departure from a year ago and even the year before, 771 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: where the word out of Tampa Bay was always how 772 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: enamored they were with Winston's leadership, and he was the 773 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: centerpiece of Hard Knocks for being that vocal leader. And 774 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: one season later, it's please tone it down. I feel 775 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: like um and I'll count myself in this kind of 776 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: got taken for a ride a little bit by Jamis 777 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: Winston on Hard Knocks. I even named him the Hard 778 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: Knocks m VP because he came off as not only 779 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: a guy that just twenty three years old last summer, 780 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: and a guy this is who you want to build 781 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: your roster around. You're he's taking to his old neighborhood 782 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: and showing how he grew up and how how friendly 783 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 1: he was and how everybody seemed to connect with him. 784 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: But as it turns out, and he was drafted one 785 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: was it, it's now turning out four years on, alright, 786 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: three or four years on, it's turning out that he 787 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: is kind of all the things that people worried about 788 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: and what made a lot of like handwringing, and the 789 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: consternation is Jamis Winston a guy you really want to 790 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: build your franchise around here. The Bucks are in and 791 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: they're still asking themselves that question, and that is not 792 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: a good thing. Leading from behind is the last thing 793 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: you ever would have hoped, uh for your for that 794 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: to be the message to your quarterback at the stage possible, 795 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: they'll have a new coach next offseason who has to 796 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: rethink this whole Jamis Winston experience clear. I think Cutter 797 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: is making a mistake. You let you know obviously you 798 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: have conversations with Jamis Winston about all of these things. 799 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: But to put it out in front and say that 800 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: we kind of don't want you to be as much 801 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: of a leader. He's going to be the starting quarterback 802 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: in week four, and that, to me, it's a confusing 803 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: message to send to tell him, don't be as much 804 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: of a leader. Yeah, it's not confusing to the other 805 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: fifty two players on the roster though. Like he's he doesn't. 806 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: He's not just Jamie's coach, he's the whole team's coach. Alright, 807 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: one more time around the horn, Mark, get us going. 808 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you want to announce the team as we've been doing. 809 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: Are you ready, Yes, I am ready. One word, I 810 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: repeat one word on the Atlanta Falcons. Drum roll. It's 811 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna take some I got you covered, Dan, when you 812 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: get back to me, Okay, Disruptor, you gotta wait till 813 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: the stops disruptor. Alright now. I initially had it as 814 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: dynasty Dynasty disruptor because I think the Falcons. Yeah, I 815 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: just went disrupted because thank you, they to me. I 816 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 1: was when I was watching them yesterday on NFL Network. 817 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: They brought Dan Quinn over, and we've met with Dan Quinn. 818 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: We liked dan Quinn for a long long time. I 819 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: just think that he had last year was all about 820 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: how do you shake the Super Bowl and how do 821 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: you deal with this new offensive coordinators? All this like 822 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: hideous psychological adjusting that he needed to be in charge of. 823 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: They from top to bottom seem ultra competent. All their 824 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: star players are back. I think this coaching staff has 825 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: done a better job than almost any team in the 826 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: league of drafting and developing young players. You've seen the 827 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: defense where they were at the end of last season, 828 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: when we were at that playoff team, when they shut 829 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: the Rams down. We're gonna get more of that, and 830 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: they just have a great core of veteran and young players. 831 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: This reminds me a little bit of the Broncos team 832 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: after getting whipped in the Super Bowl by Seattle the 833 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: two years later came back against all expectations and won 834 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl when most people thought, no, it's gonna 835 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: go somewhere else. I think this is a super Bowl 836 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: team that's gonna disrupt Philadelphia's plans to become a dynasty disruptor. 837 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: One thing I've noticed how quickly they've turned around that defense, 838 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: basically purely with draft picks. They placed an inordinate emphasis 839 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: on explosive, dynamic athletes with high spark scores. It makes 840 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: me wonder why every team in the league doesn't rebuild 841 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: their defense in the same way. I think Quinn got 842 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: that from we want to redo what we had in Seattle, 843 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: similar type of like edgy athletic players. And sometimes that's 844 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: a nice plan, But then four years later you don't 845 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: have any of those guys. They found them in, turned 846 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: them into good players, and they're they're gonna start signing. 847 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: Grady Jarrett's next up in line for a contract extension, 848 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: and he deserves one. Chris Westling one word to describe 849 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Brigadoon Brigade for those of you under 850 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 1: the age of eighty, is a musical I believe from 851 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: fifties about a mysterious Scottish village that appears for only 852 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: one day every one hundred years. It's a musical, so 853 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: you know when the Scottish village appears, people spanishly break 854 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: unto dances. There's galas seductions, romantic dalliances, trists in Cleveland. 855 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: In training camp, you got puppies, you got r vs, 856 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: you got the hard Land, You've got bone on me, 857 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: You've got festivals, you got everybody's darling. It's gonna last 858 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: one day and then be buried again, fade away into 859 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: the mountain mist like Brigadoon did. Wow, a little bit 860 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: of a drive by. That's great. Mark's actually under the 861 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: table and now I do I see what you mean 862 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: from that. I see what you mean from the training 863 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: camp angle where it acts like they it's a it's 864 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: a month long celebration of all that has been and 865 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: is to come. And then September arrives typically and by 866 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: around September twelve you realize you don't have a team. 867 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: The one thing that I think is a little bit 868 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: different here is that Tyrod Taylor is giving them some 869 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: consistency and taking almost all the first team reps when 870 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: last year, for instance, in many years, it was three 871 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks all splitting first team reps. None of them were 872 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: first teamers. And I am starting to buy into everything 873 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: that's being said about Baker Mayfield is growing daily. But 874 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: this is the problem that that your head coach, who 875 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 1: last year could not pick us quarterback and stand by 876 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: him for a week at a time, this year has 877 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: picked a quarterback and it's sticking by him and saying 878 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: there's no competition, even though Baker Mayfield is so far 879 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: proving to be everything that would make you want to 880 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: draft him at number one overall and buy a Tober. 881 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: People are gonna be saying there will be a controversy. 882 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: Why isn't Baker Mayfield playing. Browns are a high profile 883 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: team for a team that never wins any games. It's 884 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: interesting that that's helped national a high profile team that 885 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 1: they've They're never boring, but they're also never good on 886 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: the field. Right, there's special type of bad that makes 887 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: them a story. They're not just the Bengals or the 888 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: Jets or some other team that's just kind of like 889 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: wandering through lost seasons. They're really good at being bad 890 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: and now they're trying to be really good. There's there's 891 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot of there's juice to it. I think at 892 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: the end of the brigad dune, isn't there a happy reunion. 893 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: I think it ends happily. I'll have to go back 894 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: and rewatch that. I'm not sure i've seen it the 895 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: first time around. One word, one word to decide to 896 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: describe the state of the Seattle Seahawks. Listen up twelves 897 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: mid stream and you can look it up. That's one 898 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: word midstream. Uh, Earl Thomas is still what's the definition 899 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: of it? The kind of just in the middle, just 900 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,959 Speaker 1: you're caught. Don't want to interrupt someone mid stream, Yeah, 901 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to be They're not a one side 902 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: or other of land. They're kind of just floating there 903 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: the middle of a stream. There in the middle. There 904 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: literally there's an organization I'm looking at that's online right now. 905 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: There's the middle period of a process course or the 906 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: like that works as well. Mid stream. So that Seattle obviously, 907 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: who's gun Michael Bennett, Richard Sherman, Cliff um As Cam 908 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: Chancellor and Earl Thomas is just this one guy that's 909 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: held over from the famed legion of boom days. Uh 910 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: And really it is overdue that he should have been 911 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: moved out of here if they decide, if they thought 912 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: they weren't going to give him a new deal, they 913 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: should have moved him out before the draft. They should 914 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: have picked a better time that maybe last year when 915 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: they could have seen this all coming, but they didn't. 916 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: And now they still have him here, and you have 917 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and press conferences at training camp saying he 918 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: should be here, and you have Earl Thomas who's digging 919 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: his heels in, and you're looking at a situation that 920 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: could be a a huge distraction for the team. But 921 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: b and that's kind of where the midstream thing comes in. 922 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: It's time for this organization to fully move on. But 923 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: the Earl Thomas thing is kind of keeping them in 924 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: this past, this recent past, and not allowing them to 925 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 1: fully do that. And I don't know if if at 926 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: this point things are so toxic and the timing of 927 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: the NFL calendar makes a trade very difficult, but I 928 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: would take what I could at this point and just 929 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 1: move on and give the younger guys a chance to play. 930 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: I know they have uh Maurice Alexander, a guy they 931 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: picked up last year. He was working with the number 932 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: one defense today. Uh Bradley McDougald is a free safety. 933 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: So they have they have these guys that are kind 934 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: of the future a team, move on, get out of midstream, 935 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: get to the other side, get the dry land. So 936 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: what to what end is this Seahawks current stance on 937 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas? What did they hope to get out of 938 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: this to just play out his deal? That makes that's 939 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: what they're hoping. That makes no sense to me. And 940 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: what is a midstream year? We're not gonna use rebuilding 941 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: a midstream year. I don't think they're strong enough to 942 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: contend for the Super Bowl title this year, So why 943 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: why are you trying to get one last h season 944 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: out at Earl Thomas? So you're gonna get a draft 945 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: pick that you can get in the off season anyways, 946 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: you can get it now. If you get it in 947 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: the off season, you can't use it until another year, 948 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: except part of it like this mean, I mean either way, 949 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: it's a two thousand nineteen draft picks. So so if 950 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: they let him go through, they get a compensitive in 951 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: a potential trade. I mean, they could franchise him, they 952 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: can't trade him in the off season. The whole problem, though, 953 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: is that Seattle's trying to sell to their fans and 954 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: everyone this idea that we're no, it's not rebuilding, but 955 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: we're going to give you a second version of the Seahawks, 956 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: and that means a new culture where a lot of 957 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: these players that were around that got tired potentially of 958 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: the Pete Carroll message have been moved on and and 959 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is sort of like the guy that's still there. 960 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: You you you you blew up the whole legion of 961 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: boom and he's still there. He's not hat Right now. 962 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: The rosters midstream, we don't want to trade Marcus. I 963 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 1: mean they're they're playing guys because there's a couple injuries 964 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: at wide receiver, and guys like Keenan Reynolds and and 965 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: David Moore and Marcus Johnson are getting a lot of snaps. 966 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: And if you look at who's getting the snaps on defense, 967 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: and maybe these will turn out to be good young 968 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: players like t Drich Thompson. But it's Drawn Reid on defense, 969 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: Marcus Smith, you know it's it's it's a midstream roster, 970 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that I don't necessarily think will 971 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: be a big part of when they are getting. Maybe 972 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: the case for a trade is you can bring somebody, 973 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: an actual player back that can build a whole um. 974 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: If I don't know what his value, trade value you 975 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,919 Speaker 1: is at this point a year ago, maybe they could 976 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: have gotten a second round pick, or who knows, maybe 977 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 1: a late first round pick, But now what fourth rounder? 978 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: I think if they wait, I think there they'll wait. Leverage. 979 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: He has to show up at some point or else 980 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: he loses that year of eligibility. So he will show 981 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 1: up at some point, and so you either trade him, 982 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: I guess, or you try to get some value out 983 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: of him and maybe bag him next. Seems like him 984 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: come in after. To Dan's point, the timing of it 985 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: all is a disaster right now, and he seems like 986 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: a pretty strong willed individuals a rough situation. Uh. Finally, Greg, 987 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: one word on the Buffalo Bills dispiriting. Maybe I was 988 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 1: hoping you're going to go in a positive direction because 989 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: some people are getting excited, but you're saying dispiriting. There 990 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: are people getting excited about the Bills seven. You know, 991 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: you wait to make the playoffs for seventeen years. You 992 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: finally have a good young head coach I think in 993 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, and you would hope to be building on that, 994 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: and instead you're splitting reps three ways between AJ McCarron, 995 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman and Joshua and that never really seems to work. 996 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: And depending on who you read, you know, Peterman started 997 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: off very slow, but he's getting a lot of first 998 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: team reps. Mccaren has isn't really processing the offense. Allan 999 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: is up and down. But you've got to make some decisions. 1000 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: This is not notneing. The two veterans between mccarroen and 1001 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: Peterman aren't good enough to bother to split it three 1002 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: ways and keep josh Allen out the field developed Josh 1003 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: Allen and make a choice with one of the other 1004 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: two because they're gonna need all the work they can get. 1005 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: They got Andre Holmes and Malachai Dupree as starting wide 1006 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: receivers right now, so they need to get as much 1007 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: work as they possibly can with the quarterback that they're 1008 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: gonna go with in week one, Dez Bryant pulling the 1009 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: late period Terrell Owens move and going to Buffalo. It's 1010 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: a logical team because he would make them better. They 1011 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: showed interest reportedly from the beginning, and Dez didn't want 1012 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: to go there. Well, that may, I wonder now when 1013 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: he realizes how few options he has, except why not 1014 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: wait two weeks because everyone's getting injured left, right, and 1015 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: then you see maybe another option opens up. I couldn't 1016 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: agree more Greg, because the teams that do this where 1017 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: you're you're giving reps three ways, it never works? Is 1018 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: this it never works? And their offensive line is going 1019 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: to get two of these quarterbacks killed before the third 1020 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: one has to start anyways during the season. Is that 1021 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 1: really their fault? Or is it that the off season 1022 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: program is so much shorter now that they don't have 1023 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 1: enough time to figure out which one of those three guys? Well, 1024 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: that's that's that's fair. But at the same time they're 1025 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: dealing with the same limitations that every team is. Why 1026 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: not have one guy get as much preparation as you 1027 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: can going into Week one? Right, the other guys are 1028 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna get snaps. It's just gonna be with the third team. 1029 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 1: And the biggest problem is they signed the wrong guy 1030 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: in free agency. They signed A J. Mccaren is that 1031 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: is somebody better they they reportedly I think wanted to 1032 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: be in on Sam Bradford. That didn't happen. And yeah, 1033 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: and Karen, do you think des Mark knows about you know, 1034 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: Western New York is a beautiful Harry. I think he 1035 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: knows about Niagara Falls. I would imagine it's probably, you know, 1036 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: anecdotally been introduced to him. He's been there, and I don't. 1037 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: I just looked it up. It's not one of the 1038 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: seven Wonders of the World. Niagara Falls absolutely has a case. 1039 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: In my mind, let's get on that to be one. 1040 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: Let's get on that committee. There are like three hundred 1041 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 1: wonders did have a case? Which wonder are you knocking 1042 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: out the lineup for? You know, you want to hear 1043 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: you want to hear what I'm getting. Get out of here. 1044 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: Hanging gardens of Babylon that doesn't even exist in don't 1045 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 1: need you Those are ancient wonders world. Update this list, 1046 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: get Niagara Falls on there, present that to DEAs and 1047 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: see what happens. He's signing all right, I would have 1048 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: replaced something else. But I believe there is an updated 1049 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: Wonders of the World list. Well, that was the classic seven. 1050 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: I only I used it there is. I don't think 1051 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 1: the Colossus of Roads is still around either. That big 1052 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 1: donut near the airport at l A X, that's that's in. 1053 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 1: I only recognize the classic seven Wonders. What about Si 1054 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: later taj Mahal, that's that's one of the new ones 1055 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: that don't take out is great? You know you're not 1056 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: getting rid of the Roman Colosseum. He's been doing good work. 1057 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: Machu Picchu in Chichen Itzza. What about that one of 1058 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: those ones? So kind of you can maybe sort of 1059 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: combine those two. And I've already stated my case to 1060 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: get rid of the hanging gardens. All right, that's it 1061 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,919 Speaker 1: for the Around the NFL Podcast presented by New Era. 1062 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: Have you nominated the Around the NFL Podcast for the 1063 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: Listener Podcast Awards yet? Uh? It's free, easy to do. 1064 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: Just head to Podcast Awards dot com. Nominated Around the 1065 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: NFL in the Sports category. You know, if you just 1066 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: do this, I'll never read this ever again, and you'll 1067 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: never have to ever worry about hearing this. Just just 1068 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: vote and once we win Erica, Are we gonna win? Definitely, 1069 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: it will be a bit of a lot of Ravia 1070 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: Magnify call if we don't win. Put it that way, 1071 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 1: And I don't think you guys listening. I want to 1072 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 1: know who's being exposed the subject to that. Yeah, yeah, 1073 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: anyway again. Podcast Awards dot Com nominated Around the NFL 1074 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: in the Sports category. And a reminder that our video 1075 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: show is coming up later this week. So where our 1076 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: next time you'll hear from us is Wednesday? Uh and 1077 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: then on Thursday, starting at noon eastern NFL dot com 1078 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: slash a t N Live, you could check out our 1079 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: video show. Good stuff. We'll be back. Oh. One announcement, 1080 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: not a minor one. Yes, we'll be in the studio 1081 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. On Friday Friday, show will be recapping our 1082 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: time at Los Angeles Rams Camp. How about that the 1083 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen team of a t L. We're 1084 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna be at Rams Camp. We're gonna talk to some 1085 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: big fish, not Evan Silver, but some big fish connected 1086 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: to the Rams. Uh. So we're gonna be on the road, 1087 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 1: road trip. It's a big announcement, Shotgun, I mean you 1088 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: put it out a list of who you want to 1089 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: talk to, and sometimes like they might try to give 1090 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: you the lowest level. But our list of seven or 1091 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: eight requests are all major names. Than you're just setting 1092 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: us up for failure. We don't know we're gonna end 1093 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: up with. I think him Everett's like Cattie. We can 1094 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: quit that, al right. That's it, First Survy, Next Top London. 1095 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh, we heard you. All of the people 1096 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 1: excited about our trip to London first week in September, 1097 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: Twitter blowing up over that. We cannot wait to see you, 1098 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: so we'll get We're gonna have more London talking. Maybe 1099 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: a famous London sports personality or British sports personality coming 1100 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: on our show soon to talk about that. Oh it's 1101 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: Prince Harry Baby. All right, let's go. Is dan Anson 1102 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: signing off for five Storm, The Mailman, The Old Boss 1103 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: and the Loose Cannon behind the Glass till Wednesday