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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's happening? It is indeed Fox Sports Saturday. I am

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. He is Arnie Spanier aeron Torres out. He said, Arnie,

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Speaker 2: this is the last time until after football.

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Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, I believe that when I see it.

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Speaker 2: That's the voice of course of Arnie Spanner. He's at

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios, live out at Summer League.

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Speaker 2: Our friend Mark Medina, he'll join us next hour. We'll

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Speaker 2: be able to talk all things Cooper Flag, Ace Bailey,

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Speaker 2: anything else on your mind. Cooper Flag had a better

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Speaker 2: second game than he did a first game there or nomenal.

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Speaker 3: I've watched both games now, pretty much the entire game,

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Speaker 3: and I just love this kid, even after he had

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Speaker 3: a so so or below average first game. I just

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Speaker 3: love everything about him. So I can't wait to see

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Speaker 3: what kind of career he's gonna have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the social first game, I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: can't I can't be bothered to care about having some

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Speaker 2: like having a kind of a shaky first outing in

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Speaker 2: your first summer league game. I think his career is

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Speaker 2: not going to be defined by you know, day one

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Speaker 2: in a MAVs uniform. I think he's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get the lowdown from Mark Medina a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on. We are going to talk plenty of NFL,

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Speaker 2: plenty of college football as well on this.

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Speaker 3: Oh really college football a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna sneak in some F one because you're

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Speaker 2: gonna catch me doing that a lot going forward, because

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Speaker 2: it's kind of become my thing.

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Speaker 3: I just can I just say this that you brought

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Speaker 3: up college football real quick. One of the local media

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Speaker 3: guys down in Tucson, Arizona. You know, I'm an Arizona fan,

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Speaker 3: did one of those simulcasts of you know, playing Madden

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Speaker 3: or not mad whatever, the college version of college football

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Speaker 3: twenty six right at Arizona's first opponent, Hawaii, and we're

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Speaker 3: like a fourteen point favorite and we lose thirty one.

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Speaker 2: What he ate?

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Speaker 3: And then it started to bother me today. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it's like, we actually lost. That's how much I love football.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, season's over now. If we actually lose the

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Speaker 3: Hawaii's season's over.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna lose it. That was I even

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Speaker 3: told my wife. She goes, of course, that's typical Arizona.

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Speaker 3: It was like, we actually lost the game. So I'm

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Speaker 3: only sports, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Only sports simulated EA sports brand college football. And you're

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Speaker 2: still saying we yeah, like you're taking it personally that

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Speaker 2: you lost the Why now if you no, I will

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Speaker 2: say this, losing to Hawaii is not a good look.

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Speaker 3: Now, even in the simulation that you get, that's not

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Speaker 3: a good look. No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: No, not great.

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Speaker 3: But it bothered me today.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, as well, tough luck. But maybe maybe the

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Speaker 2: real game will go differently and figd out. So I

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Speaker 2: think maybe. So, since we're gonna do the summer League

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Speaker 2: thing with Martin Medina in hour two, I feel like

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing that's happened, at least in the last

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Speaker 2: handful of days in the world of sports is kind

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Speaker 2: of this like big deep dive piece from Brian Windhorst

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Speaker 2: to Ramona Shelburn that backed up some other reporting throughout

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Speaker 2: NBA circles about the Los Angeles Lakers. Weirdly enough, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about the Lakers, but hey, we're not going

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Speaker 2: to talk about Bronnie. Even though every point that he makes,

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Speaker 2: it does tend to happen quite a bit. But this

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Speaker 2: piece and this storyline about how after the trade Arnie

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Speaker 2: that brought Luca to LA they sit down with him

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Speaker 2: you here, what are you thinking about this? Essentially, what

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Speaker 2: and this team is now effectively Luka Doncic's team. They

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Speaker 2: He picks up his one year option. He starts tweeting

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Speaker 3: Know what happened tonight about about an hour ago, all

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Speaker 3: over Twitter, I sent you the story about him, not

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Speaker 3: why he's at the Summer League game, and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to go on and he doesn't want to talk

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Speaker 3: nothing to say, right, yeah, which I thought was a

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Speaker 3: no way he said that. But it's all over Twitter now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So look that tells you all you need to know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everything that Lebron James does is calculated. It

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Speaker 2: always has been. I mean, he's a brilliant businessman, and

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Speaker 2: he's got great representation with Rich Paul, who's always looking

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Speaker 2: out for his best interest, and so you know, everything

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Speaker 2: he's done, and when Horston Shelber make this point, and

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Speaker 2: the piece is to maximize his contract time but also

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Speaker 2: his options and his money. And so you look at this,

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Speaker 2: he picks up this one year option, and he is

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Speaker 2: all but telling you he's ready to leave. He's ready

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Speaker 2: to go somewhere else. He even kind of passively aggressively

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Speaker 2: talked about Anthony Davis after he left and about how

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Speaker 2: he was gone when he was asked about potentially having

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Speaker 2: is he going to be anywhere else or is going

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Speaker 2: to be about time to to head on down that

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Speaker 2: other things in his life. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he still plays at an awfully high level, so it

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Speaker 2: just depends. But he also doesn't seem to be nearly

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Speaker 3: So many different things to talk about this. First of all,

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Speaker 3: has there ever been a more hated superstar in any

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Speaker 2: On the short list. Man, it's him, and I think

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Speaker 2: I think he actually turned that around in Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: Jason, people didn't hate O Jay Simpson as much for

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait. I mean.

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Speaker 3: It seems like he really gets a brun of the

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Speaker 3: hatred out there, and really for what reason. There's nothing

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Speaker 3: he really did wrong. That's that's the first thing too.

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Speaker 3: He's in a situation where he's never been like that before.

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Speaker 3: He's not wanted by the Lakers, and he knows it,

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Speaker 3: and he doesn't know what to do about it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: There was reports today that four other teams are interested

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Speaker 3: if that's his agent trying to leak it out there.

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Speaker 3: By the way, how did that private dinner with Luca

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Speaker 3: make its way to the media. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 3: If it was just the Lakers and Luca who leaked

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Speaker 3: it to the media, and how did Lebron find out

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Speaker 3: about it? That's that's another story. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But well, I mean, the dinner's kind of obvious right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, look who wrote the report about the dinner, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean wind Horse right, right? So I mean if

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Speaker 2: you want to get it to either, if you want

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Speaker 2: to get it to Lebron, that would be one guy

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Speaker 2: you might go through. All though that relationship seems to

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Speaker 2: just become really good at his job period, Like he's

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Speaker 2: just really talented. So is Romon Schelbron for that matter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it could easily be Rob Polinka. I mean,

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Speaker 2: say hey, we turn the page. I mean, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about all of this. This is all coming out this week.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the details of this are coming out now,

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Speaker 3: When you do that and you leak that out, that

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Speaker 3: puts Luca in a bad position if he doesn't go

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Speaker 3: to Lebron and tell him about the dinner. So now

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Speaker 3: you're causing animosity. You're causing animosity between the two stars

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Speaker 3: if they have to stay one more year together. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Lebron's gonna play another game in the

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Speaker 3: Laker uniform. Now, if that's if that was their thinking

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Speaker 3: But if you're doing that, you're causing some problems here

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Speaker 3: between Luca and Lebron. That's the last thing you want

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Speaker 3: to do it one year left and then Lebron having

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, that's a really good point. So that's so

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Speaker 2: you drop that in the middle that you think he's

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Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah, I don't think he's ever going to play

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he'll ever put on a Laker

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Speaker 3: uniform again. And I believe the reports that there's four

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Speaker 3: other teams. And you know I said this before, Jason,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know how true it is, to be

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Speaker 3: honest with you, and I know NBA is different. But

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Speaker 3: the Walters Group, they're also the same group that owns

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers. And you saw there a creative thinking when

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Speaker 3: it came to Otani and other contracts. Also that everybody's

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Speaker 3: screaming to the bloody rooftops. If anybody could make this work,

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Speaker 3: it'd be the Walters Group and Lebron. Lebron's making what

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Speaker 3: fifty two million plus or whatever it is. Why can't

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Speaker 3: he make one million and get a fifty two million

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Speaker 3: dollar bonus or whatever that way it's easier to trade

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Speaker 3: him and go to another team. I don't know. There's

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Speaker 3: got to be a creative way to work with the

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Speaker 3: unload a complete team, and I really believe there is.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe in this whole salary cap. And I

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Speaker 3: believe if two people come to an agreement, they could say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna give you the fifty two million, like Bobby Benilla,

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Speaker 3: and stretch that over for the next hundred years or something,

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Speaker 3: you know, do some creative math. I'm sure they could

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Speaker 3: work something out because Lebron, I think, would want to go.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know exactly how it all works, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there is some kind of like

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Speaker 2: a he's designated as like a star and so there's

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Speaker 2: a minimum threshold or whatever like that. I'm gonna admit this,

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Speaker 2: and I've said this before, like I have tried to

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Speaker 2: those things. I have come to a conclusion and I'm

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Speaker 2: okay with this. I just can't get it in my head,

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Speaker 3: Bring my son with me. Bring my other son from

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Speaker 3: Arizona will have one or two years in the books

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Speaker 2: When we come back out of the break, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: So ESPN updated their article.

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Speaker 3: This is a big difference, Jason, does it not because

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Speaker 3: it says since a narrative that we were talking about

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Speaker 2: So this is from what this is the account Lakers

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Speaker 3: Does that change your mind on anything? Because to me,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers didn't tell him because he Gordon from his representatives.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that really changes anything in any light.

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Speaker 3: I can still see why he's mad, and I still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how much it changes, right,

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Speaker 2: It seems like in the past Lebron would have even

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Speaker 2: In this case, Hey, we're selling this, This majority stake

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Speaker 2: Like it seemed like at that point it had shifted

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Speaker 3: He should have known. He should have know just I

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Speaker 3: I can't feel bad for him, you.

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Speaker 2: I guess just you've kind of You've kind of always

435
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: come to Lebron with some sense of like he's got

436
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 2: some authority here, like he's somebody that you don't just

437
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 2: do stuff without talking to Lebron James, and here the

438
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: Lakers seemingly, for the most part, did that. And Lebron's

439
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: response was kind of the weird stuff on social media

440
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 2: that we've seen many times, and a lot of that

441
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So I kind of look at all

442
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: of that and just say, it's a relationship that looks

443
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: like it has gone south. Even if this article, you know,

444
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 2: now you look at it and it does have some

445
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 2: errors or it has a has a fairly big error

446
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: that needed to be corrected here, that maybe changes the

447
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: tenor a little. I don't think I would go like,

448
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: like the person who tweeted this is just kind of like,

449
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 2: hey man, the media is trying to create a story

450
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: that's not there. I don't necessarily that because I don't

451
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: think that the way Lebron said, I don't have anything

452
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: to say tonight right like him saying that right summer League,

453
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: there's something there's still some fire behind that.

454
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Speaker 3: Of course, that's exactly what's going on. First of all, Jason,

455
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: he did get shunned. The Lakers did tell Luca, but

456
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: they didn't tell Lebron. They told his representatives. They could

457
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 3: have made a call to him, So yes they did.

458
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: They did shut him. That's like your girlfriend calling me

459
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: up and saying, I'm gonna break up with Jason later on. Okay,

460
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 3: well you know that you're not gonna tell Jason, So no, lady,

461
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 3: you gotta tell Jason. So you know, it's the pecking

462
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: order here, and for the first time in his life,

463
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 3: he's not first in the pegging order. Two, they don't

464
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: want him back, and I don't think Laker fans really

465
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: want him back, and he feels it for the first

466
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Speaker 3: time in his career. And I bet you if you

467
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 3: took a poll out there, I bet it's seventy five

468
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: twenty five. If you ask the Laker fans, they don't

469
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 3: want him back for the upcoming year. They'd rather move on.

470
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: The Lakers won fifty games if Lebron wasn't on the team.

471
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: How many games would they win this year if he

472
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Speaker 3: wasn't on the team and you just replaced him using

473
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: that fifty two million, I'd say just about the same.

474
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Speaker 3: So I think it's time to move on from Lebron

475
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: and see what you could do without him.

476
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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I mean I think that's I think that

477
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: last point is critical when you're thinking about the Lakers

478
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: thought process and what you're saying about the fans. I

479
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: agree with, but I also look at it just from them.

480
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, so he brought us the championship in

481
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: the bubble, right, but we're not getting any closer now,

482
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: all right, So we've had We've gone through a couple

483
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: of coaches that he's wanted us to go. Now we

484
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: have his old podcast buddy as a head coach, who

485
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: at times I thought did a pretty good job. I

486
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: thought did a poor job in the playoffs. But at

487
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: the same time, you know, we've brought in Luca, and

488
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: Luca is the future. Look at his age. He doesn't

489
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: play the same way as Lebron. It didn't seem to

490
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: be like the most magical fit. And they got rid

491
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Speaker 2: of somebody Lebron loves like like ultimately Ad was this

492
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: guy was his friend. Ad was somebody that that he

493
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: really enjoyed playing alongside. And they moved on from that

494
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: guy and they brought in somebody who can't be a

495
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: second banana like Luka Jancic cannot come in and be

496
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: part of something. He kind of has to be the maestro.

497
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Speaker 2: And so I think ultimately, like right there, I think

498
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: you had you probably had some.

499
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: Issues, oh for sure.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you look at so at this point,

501
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: what does Lebron want to do? Who does he want

502
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: to be? And so you talk about the four teams

503
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: that are out there that are interested in his services

504
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: or whatever like that. I think eventually he's gonna have

505
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: to decide, you know, what it is he's looking for.

506
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: It's pretty easy. If I'm here, I go back to Cleveland.

507
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: Them in the New York Knicks have an easy road

508
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 3: to the Eastern Conference finals. Might as well just put

509
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: him in there, especially with Boston be in without Tatum

510
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: and Haliburton, So it's it's a done deal. Might as well,

511
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: that's gonna be bad for the NBA. But that's a

512
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: whole nother a story there. So I'd go to Cleveland,

513
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: stee even getting back to the NBA Championship. But filling

514
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Speaker 3: myself one more about who I.

515
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: Just mentioned Philadelphia.

516
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Speaker 3: Just like that, I went, why would I want to

517
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: go to Philadelphia? Get on it?

518
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: You a to Miami?

519
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: That would be a possibility. That'd be third on my list.

520
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: They're not gonna win a championship there, But he go

521
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: live in Miami.

522
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: Again, if you go live in Miami, maybe recruits one

523
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: more person. They make a little bit of a run

524
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Speaker 3: in things.

525
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: Hey man, the Hawks had a really good draft and

526
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: a good start to free agency. No, I'm just kidding.

527
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. If he goes to Atlanta, it will.

528
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Speaker 3: Be the Yeah, don't overthink it with Lebron, And it's

529
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: gonna be Cleveland or Golden State, I really believe are

530
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: the only two places will end up going.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I tend to agree, it's it's crazy that

532
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 2: his it has gotten to this point, but eventually you

533
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: do kind of hit a spot where your value is

534
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: just not what it once was. And the Lakers eventually

535
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: the Lake. Until you move on from Lebron James, you

536
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: can't turn the page. And I think with a new

537
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: owner and everything else, all right, this is the Luca Ero,

538
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: which means we kind of need to move on completely.

539
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: We have to build this thing around him, and you

540
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: can't build around him and build around Lebron James, and

541
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: you can't build around him. With Lebron James, I don't

542
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: think because Lebron. Lebron's got a big ego and he's

543
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: still got a lot of pride, and there's still some

544
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: things that he's going to want to command. And I

545
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: think that if you want to look at it, who

546
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: was more successful the Luka Doncic in Dallas that went

547
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals a year ago or the Lakers

548
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: version that had Luca and Lebron and kind of a

549
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: weird mishmash of pieces that got obliterated in the first round.

550
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: Number done right right.

551
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: No, there's no doubt. It's the Luca team in Dallas,

552
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: and it's Luca's future. There's there's no infans or buds

553
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: about this. Like I said, I would want to get

554
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: the hell out of there. Lebron's not wanted. Is there

555
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: a reason why he's so hated among Laker fans. I'm

556
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: not really sure the attitude. It can't be because I'm

557
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: gonna take my talents to South Beach. Not really sure.

558
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: He did bring the Lakers a championship, but I'll never

559
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: go down to the top five Waker of all time.

560
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: It's just that very popular. I can't think of a

561
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: superstar that's less popular than lebron James. It's really that

562
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 3: bad out there. But I've got to leave. I can't

563
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: play one more year here in LA. I get to

564
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: find myself another team.

565
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 2: Wow. I think I just heard like a shout of

566
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 2: joy when Arnie Spanier said I've got to.

567
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: Leave, got to leave, and that was Steve Sager.

568
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: Of course, a man, we have just enough money left

569
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: under the mid level exception to bring in a veteran

570
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: like Steve de Sager, Steve.

571
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 7: And in your honor, we're gonna lead with Bronnie James

572
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 7: victory at the Summer League Lakers beat New Orleans ninety

573
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 7: four to eighty one. Bronnie James fourteen points, three assists,

574
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 7: four turnovers, three point one for five.

575
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Hey, man, that would have put him on the cover

576
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: of a two K twenty six for the women.

577
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's yeah, I'm not even gonna go there. This

578
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 7: This is exactly this has already been going over and

579
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 7: I think we all agree. These Spurs defeated the Mavericks

580
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 7: today seventy six sixty nine. Cooper Flag of Dallas did

581
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 7: have thirty one points out of the sixty nine. They

582
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 7: are eight games a day in Vegas for this summer League,

583
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 7: which started Thursday. WNBA Chicago beat Minnesota, which was eighteen

584
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Speaker 7: and three eighty seven eighty one, Angel Reese nineteen points,

585
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 7: Las Vegas one oh four, one oh two over Golden State.

586
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 7: Asia Wilson thirty four points back from a wrist injury

587
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 7: that the Women's Euros Sweden for to one over Germany

588
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 7: and MLS Action Miami beat Nashville two to one tonight,

589
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 7: two goals for Lionel Messi. The FIFA Club World Cup

590
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 7: Final is Sunday in New Jersey. Egos Fiontek won the

591
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 7: Wimbledon Women's final six love, six love today against American

592
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 7: Amanda Andissimova, and it took just fifty seven seven minutes.

593
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 7: Ciontek now six to zero in major finals, including the

594
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 7: four she's won at the French Open.

595
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: The men commercials in between points.

596
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Speaker 7: Problem Sunday, it was, yeah, exactly. It was from the

597
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 7: very beginning, it was obvious this was not gonna last

598
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 7: very long. I looked it up her semi final where

599
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 7: she upset the number one player, Arena Sableca. That was

600
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Speaker 7: two hours, thirty seven minutes.

601
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: Wow.

602
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 7: The final didn't even make it to sixty minutes. Pato

603
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 7: O Ward took Today's Indy Carve and Indy Cars at

604
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 7: Iowa This weekend Saturday and Sunday races on Fox TV.

605
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 7: Roy McElroy moved into a tie for first at the

606
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 7: Scottish Open. He'd been four shots back after round two.

607
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 7: At the Celebrity Golf event in Lake Tahoe, Soccer's Taylor

608
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 7: twelve minutes tied for the league. Golf Hall of Famer

609
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 7: Anika sorens Dam is in fifth place. Tony Romo is

610
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 7: tied for six with John Smoltz. Brown's second round running

611
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 7: back quin Shawn Judkins was arrested for domestic violence. He

612
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 7: played for Ole Miss and Ohio State. Former Cardinals Pro

613
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 7: Bowl tackle Lewis Sharp died at the age sixty five.

614
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 7: Two late ballgames in the majors. It's bottom of the

615
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 7: seventh in Anaheim Angels sixty three over the Diamondbacks. Arizona

616
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 7: got two early home runs from Auhennio Suarez. He has

617
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 7: thirty one this year. Two run shot for the Angels.

618
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 7: Mike Trout his seventeenth trout, batting two thirty three this season,

619
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Speaker 7: pretty good, seemingly as a fifty two year contract with

620
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 7: that team as well. The Blue Jays are tied to

621
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Speaker 7: two at the A's in the bottom of the fifth,

622
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 7: Toronto his first place in the Alas. There were two

623
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Speaker 7: games over the Yankees to start the day. The Yankees

624
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 7: lost at home to the Cubs, five to two. Aaron

625
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 7: Jidge judged it Homer at thirty fifth this year. It's

626
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 7: number three fifty for his career. Milwaukee won at six

627
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Speaker 7: straight with three runs bottom of the ninth, six to

628
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Speaker 7: five over Washington. Seattle fifteen to seven. Winners at Detroit,

629
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Speaker 7: and the starting pitchers were announced tonight for the Tuesday

630
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Speaker 7: All Star Game. Detroit's Trek Scuebel and Paul Skeans of

631
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Speaker 7: the Pirates. Unfortunately for the Pirrits.

632
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Still with the Pirates. Yeah for the thirty five minutes.

633
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: I see a piece about how he's about to be traded.

634
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, these Pirates have lost eight in a row and

635
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 7: Skeens is pitching so well and it doesn't seem like

636
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 7: they score win he pitches today. It was twelve to

637
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 7: four Minnesota over Pittsburgh. Byron Buxton hit for the cycle

638
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 7: and went five for five. The Braves with a run

639
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 7: of the ninth one at Saint Louis seven to six.

640
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 7: The Dodgers held off the rival Giants two to one.

641
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 7: Sho Heyo Tani pitch three scoreless innings with four strikeouts.

642
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 7: Cincinnati with two runs bottom of the ninth, edged Colorado

643
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 7: four to three. The Rockies record now twenty two and

644
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 7: seventy three. Miami and Cleveland each one on the road.

645
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 7: Boston won it's ninth straight. The Mets won three to

646
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Speaker 7: one at Kansas City, while the Phillies lost five to

647
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 7: four at San Diego. So the Phillies now a half

648
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 7: game back of the first place Mets in the NL East.

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Speaker 2: Can we just not talk about the NL East?

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Speaker 7: And the Houston Astro with two runs in the bottom

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Speaker 7: of the eleventh beat Texas five to four. Or reminder,

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Speaker 7: All Star Week coming up that includes the All Star

653
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 7: Game on Fox TV Tuesday, home Run Derby on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, be sure to check out the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio YouTube channel. Ton of great videos from all

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio shows. Search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube.

657
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Speaker 2: You'll see a bunch of video highlights from the shows.

658
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Speaker 2: Be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access

659
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. I'm serious about

660
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: a moratorium on n L East talk anytime where I

661
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: am near a radio. This is such a dreadful year

662
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: for the Braves. I just can't take it.

663
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: Just the Phillies and the Mets. Now, that's all it

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: really is, all the way.

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Speaker 2: That is my nightmare. Well, actually, you know what, I

666
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: actually don't hate the Mets as much as I hate

667
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: the Nationals. Phillies and Nationals are the two teams I

668
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: absolutely cannot stand.

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Speaker 3: Overall though they can't even be see if you went

670
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: split season, you'd have a whole new refound life. Now

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00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: you can't even do that. You canna just suck it

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Speaker 3: up and wait till the next year.

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Speaker 2: So I joked about it. Just now there's a cover

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Speaker 2: athlete on two K twenty six that makes sense, really

675
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: makes sense as a matter of fact, a legend that

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00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: I guess kind of makes sense. And then a women's

677
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: representative that, yeah, that's that sounds about right for the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back, we will chat about that. He's Arnie Spaniard.

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00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Martin. This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: live Fox Sports Radio Studios. I'm Jason Martin. He's Ernie

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Speaker 2: spanier eron Torres taking his final week, final week off

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Speaker 2: until after football.

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Speaker 3: No vacations.

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00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: It's busy for him.

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Speaker 3: What nothing for you? No vacation for you?

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00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I had surgery. It would have been

687
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: almost two weeks ago.

688
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Wow, And so.

689
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Speaker 2: That's why I was out last week because I was

690
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: in recovery and still kind of find of getting the

691
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: finishing touches off of recovery now. But back in the saddle.

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Speaker 2: I am gonna have to take a little bit of

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Speaker 2: time in September because I need to go to a

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Speaker 2: hybrid weekend for my graduate school. So I'm going to

695
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: have to actually go to campus for the first time.

696
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: I've done as much as I can distance, and then

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00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: there's actually some there's a tie in and a connection

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Speaker 2: to where I can take some live classes here in

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Speaker 2: Nashville as well. So I'm gonna have to do that

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Speaker 2: and outside of that, maybe the beach in October. We'll see. Man,

701
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Speaker 2: you got a four year old and a fifteen month

702
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: old who just learned all steps a few days ago. Like,

703
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I life is a vacation, this

704
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: show is a vacation. Exact party, because I was able

705
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: to let you know at this point, I've got a

706
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Speaker 2: microphone and that's it. Like I don't have. I don't

707
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: have a four year old and a fifteen month old

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00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: that I am just chasing around relentlessly. The thing has

709
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: been hard for me is I haven't been able to

710
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: exercise in a couple of weeks doctor's orders. That's been

711
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: kind of difficult. But the surgery is hopefully going to

712
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: be really good for quality of life, So I'm excited

713
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: about what that can look like. Not gonna be buying

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00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: two K twenty six this year by NBA two K

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Speaker 2: twenty six. So here's the biggest reason. It's not honestly

716
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: because of this. This isn't help, but a game hadn't

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00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: been good in a while, if we're just being real,

718
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Speaker 2: just this is information that I know you're an expert

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Speaker 2: on this, Arnie, soona why I'm telling you. But the

720
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: game has become riddled with what are called micro transactions,

721
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: which is just you have to pay basically to advance

722
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: in the game, so you spend seventy bucks on the game,

723
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: but then you have to spend another one hundred to

724
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: be competitive after that. I don't believe in that, Like,

725
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: if it's a game where I have to keep putting

726
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: a bunch of money into it after I've already bought

727
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: the thing.

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Speaker 3: A lot like that, Yeah, there's a lot like that.

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00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are. Most of them are like that, right, right, right?

730
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Speaker 2: But the extra reason is this, So the cover of

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Speaker 2: two K twenty six for the men's cover, there's a

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Speaker 2: men's cover of women's cover and some kind of a

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Speaker 2: legend or a Hall of Famer or something like that cover.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think would be based on the season

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Speaker 2: that just took place? Who do you think the male

736
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Speaker 2: representative should be or could be?

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00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Glahoma City SGA. You am I wrong

738
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Speaker 3: on that?

739
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: No, you're right, Okay, makes sense, rightly, MVP of the

740
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: league just won the championship. And it wasn't like it

741
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: came out of nowhere. They were the one seed, They

742
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: were the best team in the league all season long.

743
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: They win it. All right? The hall of Famer I

744
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: don't think you would be able to get. But it's

745
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony.

746
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's all right, it's fine.

747
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 2: I mean it's fine.

748
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: No, no great shakes there. I mean he's a great player, yes.

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Speaker 2: All right, But who do you think would be on

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00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: the women's cover?

751
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 3: I know this? This was Angel Rees.

752
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes, do you think that that should have been the case.

753
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: You know, these games are made to enjoyment into, so

754
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: as much as you can putting Angel and putting the

755
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: best athlete on the cover. Also, Angel rees is not

756
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Speaker 3: the best athlete in the w n b A and

757
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: she's not gonna see you the most copies. That would

758
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: have been Caitlin Clark. Now, Caitlyn is actually going through

759
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: a real tough time, and I believe Angel in her

760
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: last six or seven games has been pretty damn good,

761
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Speaker 3: actually very good over those last six or seven games.

762
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Speaker 3: But this was decided before them. This was another reason

763
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Speaker 3: that the WNBA can't get out of their own way.

764
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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous to put this situation out there. Should have

765
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Speaker 3: been Caitlin Clark on the cover. She's the most polarizing.

766
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Speaker 3: She really is the best in the WNBA, regardless of

767
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Speaker 3: what she's done in the last three or four games.

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Speaker 3: And you would sell double, maybe triple the amount of

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Speaker 3: games if she was on the cover.

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Speaker 2: All right, So they asked, so do you think Caitlin

771
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: was on it last year for the women.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna say no, she wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Hodger Wilson was, Okay, Wilson was all right. So they

774
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: asked the executive two K why they picked Angel Reese

775
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Speaker 2: over Caitlyn Clark, and to your point quote, well, we're

776
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: never scared to start conversation. And then they go into

777
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: basically how this is exactly what this is as that's

778
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: part of our game. It often provokes debate and conversation.

779
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: Basketball is full of it. That's what's fun about the

780
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: sport as well as being a fan of it, So

781
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: we never shy away from that. He talked about there's

782
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: been a relationship two K has had over the years

783
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Speaker 2: with Angel Reese. We've had a great relationship with Angel.

784
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: We love her on court and off the court style,

785
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: and she's willing to provoke conversation and be audacious too.

786
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Speaker 2: So this year we're really excited to partner with her.

787
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Speaker 2: It felt like the right time. Cool, it's a long

788
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: to me, Yeah, Like, okay, great, it's basically putting Dennis

789
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: Rodman on your cover as opposed to Michael Jordan or

790
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Speaker 2: Magic or someone like that, like Ijah Wilson or Angel Wilson.

791
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Speaker 2: She was pretty much the best player in the league

792
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: last year, if you want to do that. Okay, it

793
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: was rookie year for Kaitlyn Clark. That's fine. But based

794
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: on the ratings and based on the entest level and

795
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, you're gonna put Angel Rees

796
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Speaker 2: on the cover? Why exactly? Because let me just tell

797
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: you this, if you would put Caitlyn Clark on the

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Speaker 2: cover of two K twenty six, the women's cover, it

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Speaker 2: would have outsold the SGA cover one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent. You know now

801
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Speaker 3: I feel like putting out my own game, calling it

802
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Speaker 3: women's basketball and putting Caitlon Clark on the cover. I'll

803
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: pay her and see somebody I can sell. Yeah, I

804
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Speaker 3: really should, shouldn't we?

805
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Speaker 2: Like, you can make all the argument you want if

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00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: you're two K about all this kind of crap. I'm sorry,

807
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Speaker 2: I don't buy this. You've had a long term relationship

808
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Speaker 2: with Angel Reese. How long exactly has your relationship been

809
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: with Angel Rees? You haven't made a college basketball game

810
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Speaker 2: since I think two thousand and eight was the last

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Speaker 2: two K college basketball game. That sounds like a bunch

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Speaker 2: of ball back.

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00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't.

814
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Speaker 2: Really buy that you had Kandas Clark or Kansas Parker

815
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Speaker 2: rather two K twenty two ian sq in twenty three,

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Speaker 2: and then Angel Wilson twenty four. Rightfully, no question on that.

817
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: I think Diane ta Rossi and Sue Bird we're also

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Speaker 2: on it. Caitlyn Clark should be on your cover. It's ridiculous.

819
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Speaker 2: Everybody's looking at you with the side eye. Just know

820
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: that when we come back, we're gonna talk about summer League.

821
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Speaker 2: Cooper Flag went from not so good to thirty one points.

822
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. Plus Mark Medina will join us

823
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Speaker 2: in the second segment. Don't go anywhere, Arnie and Jason,

824
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Speaker 2: we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back or welcome here, whichever way. Welcome. Glad to

827
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Speaker 2: be with you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

828
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Speaker 2: Torres out this week. We'll be back with me a

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Speaker 2: week from this evening. So Arnie Spanier is in his

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Speaker 2: stead like you was in mine a week ago. I

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Speaker 2: do believe. Is that right? You were with Torris last week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

833
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: I was good.

834
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Speaker 3: We were doing a giane Torres and I did Friday

835
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Speaker 3: Saturday and then something that was with Chris Planks.

836
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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, all right? So that's Arnie Spanner, who's that

837
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: sinking genius? One send all your love mail there also,

838
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Speaker 2: I guess you're hate mail. I don't know who hates you, Arnie.

839
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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does.

840
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 3: You're getting a few little people attacking you on Twitter

841
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: right now. I see that.

842
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you please tell me all about that. I'm

843
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: at Jbar Radio. You can find me there if you

844
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: would like. Uh, we're gonna have Marbadina on in the

845
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: next second. We'll be able to talk Summer League with

846
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: him as he's out there and get some more thoughts

847
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: on the lebron thing. So who's tweeting it? Who's who's

848
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: hit me? U? But the angel upset?

849
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote a couple of things and he said

850
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: this is from New koresh three three three Jay mart

851
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: That take was ridiculous. Maybe if you used it a

852
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: year ago it made sense. But if you're paying any

853
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 3: attention to the w n B A, Angel Rees has

854
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: been the better player by far recently. At one point,

855
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 3: saying Caitlin was Jordan de Rodman was warranted. If you've

856
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: watched Angel Rees play in the last month or so,

857
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: you know she's no Rodman. So that's what he wanted

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Speaker 3: to say out.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the greatest rebounder of all time.

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Speaker 3: That's that's I was gonna say, that's those.

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00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, George actually trying to couple with a better

862
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: comparison of Jordan, But I was looking at the same team,

863
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: but I was looking at marketability. Asia Wilson being on

864
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: there last year made all the sense in the world

865
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: because she's the best player, right Clark is by far

866
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: the most popular player of the league has ever had

867
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: and probably will ever have. Right and to not strike

868
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: while that iron is hot, even to the point that

869
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: you're making, like even to the point that the that

870
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: that commenter is making like do it now? Then if

871
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: she's on the tail end, you know, she's getting hurt

872
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: all the time now and all this kind of stuff. Yeah,

873
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: but she's still super marketable. And the whole point two

874
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 2: K is all about making money. That's why they sell

875
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: micro transactions and everything else. Angel Reese, you know, for

876
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say about her, positive or negative,

877
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: she's not going to sell like Caitlin Clark is in

878
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It's not even a fair fight, not.

879
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: Even going to be close. Did you see there was

880
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: a w NBA game on and they put on underneath

881
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: the highest attendance of a non Indiana Fever game with

882
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: and they had to put that in there because they

883
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: know nothing's going to rival what Caitlin Clark brings in

884
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: and it's it's not even close. That's why I would

885
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: have loved been a fly on the wall hearing people

886
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: talk about no, no, can't put Caitlyn Clark on Jesus,

887
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: what gonna sell too many? You know, too many of

888
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: the games.

889
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what they did, Cude. They didn't

890
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: look at the stats and say, oh, well, Angel Reesis

891
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: had better stats and like over the last half of games,

892
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: he's right by the way, Like just looking at it

893
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: purely from a.

894
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Humber standards, this decision was made.

895
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: He's one a bit of a tear in this last hample,

896
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: but you were exactly that's the point, Like it was

897
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: for the of how she's played a month ago, how

898
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: she's played in the last three weeks, and the biggest again,

899
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: it's all about selling as many copies as you can

900
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: year after year. Uh and and the best way to

901
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: do that and look to that point like it's sga

902
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: gonna sell as many copies as others.

903
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

904
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: I would say that you're not buying it based on

905
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: the men's cover, like Jason Tatum was on the front

906
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: of it last year, Right, they won the championship, SGA,

907
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: let me tell you he's not gonna win the championship.

908
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: Angel Reese's team is not gonna in a w NBA championship.

909
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: But more to the point, like you're not really buying

910
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: it because of who's on the men's cover. The women's

911
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: cover can sell if it's Caitlin Clark because it becomes

912
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 2: something you just want to have that on your shelf,

913
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: because she's just a different kind of athlete. She's like,

914
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: her popularity is just it's just different. It's just completely unique.

915
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: Not that we need to get completely all into this,

916
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: but his point is not incorrect in terms of Angel

917
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: Reese's and how she's playing. It's just about the marketability

918
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: and selling the game.

919
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: It is, And you're right this this was made before

920
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: even the start of the WNBA season, so they have

921
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: had to have had a meeting. And I'm wondering how

922
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: many people were in on this, on this decision that said, Okay,

923
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: we're all together now it's gonna be Angel Rees. I mean,

924
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: if anything, probably put both on the cover. But it's

925
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 3: certainly Caitlin Clark deserved it, and I can't believe they were.

926
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: They had to have known that it's going to suffer

927
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: in sales. If they didn't know that, what type of

928
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: business people are they? I mean, I everybody knows that,

929
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: right or we just knuckleheads when we say something like that,

930
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: Well I would now would different.

931
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that's gonna suffer in sales.

932
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: Most of the hardcore fans are gonna buy it regardless

933
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: who's on the cover. That's the truth of the matter,

934
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: because they they play it, they gamble on it, they

935
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: do whatever it is that they do, and they love

936
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: it year after year after year.

937
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: I mean that's the Madden Game. But I'm yeah, the

938
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: Madden Game, you're buying anything Whoever's no I could.

939
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: Be on the same thing as true with basketball. I

940
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: mean the NBA game has been that popular as well.

941
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Like, when it comes down to it,

942
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: there are people that don't generally buy it that would

943
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: buy it even if they're going to keep it sealed

944
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: because Caitlin Clark is going to be on it, because

945
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: it's like, we're going to add this to our collection

946
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: for our daughter who loves her or whatever it is, right,

947
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: because she's just She's just a unicorn in in many respects.

948
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: So that's what you will lose because nobody's gonna go

949
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: buy the Angel Reese. That's that wasn't going to get

950
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: the game anyway. I don't think add a sale because

951
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: you bring Angel Reese onto it, except maybe Ryan Clark.

952
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent on that. I

953
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: really think they made a massive mistake and they could have,

954
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: you know, got in on the popularity of Caitlin Clark.

955
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: I don't know why they didn't want to do something

956
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: like that. And the WNBA seems to be making mistakes

957
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. When it comes to

958
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark not Puttinger on the Olympic team. That was crazy.

959
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: It just seems like every year there's one mistake after another.

960
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: So tell me, mister Spaniard, Yes, sir, how soon will

961
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg be on the cover of a two K game?

962
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: I just love him. I watched both games, Jason, I

963
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: just absolutely love.

964
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: Break that guy's entire catalog.

965
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, I know he didn't have a great

966
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: first game and it was blow subpar and what he

967
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: was expecting and today's game was actually a little better,

968
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: even though he scored thirty one. But he's got the

969
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: biggest problem for him when he gets to the NBA.

970
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: Now is going to be the three point shop. You

971
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 3: could see that he's struggling a little bit because going

972
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: back about four or five feet is certainly, you know,

973
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: gonna take its toll on him. He's gonna get his range,

974
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: though he hit like one or two today, but he's

975
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: so tough. He's a good drive to the basket. He's

976
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: got to get a better handle, especially going left. But

977
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: he's only eighteen years old. Eighteen years old, he's just

978
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 3: gonna be phenomenal. I love everything about his game.

979
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard to say that he doesn't

980
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: do things pretty well. I don't know that like he's

981
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: gonna He's not gonna be Luka Doncic in a Maps

982
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: uniform when it comes to scoring right, because that's not

983
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: his game. His game is more well rounded, more balanced.

984
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: He's gonna give you a lot of different aspects. He

985
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: plays pretty solid defense, he rebounds at a pretty high clip.

986
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: He's way athletic, more so than you would even think.

987
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: But he showed it at Duke and he's showing it

988
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: out as well. Now he's gonna I think he will

989
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: be probably more a streaky shooter, and he's probably more

990
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: likely to average in the low twenties or something like that.

991
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, he had that first game, right, and

992
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: it was five and twenty one from the field and

993
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 2: missed all his threes, and it was him and Bronnie

994
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: And it's not like Bronnie was was good or anything

995
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: else like that. But so now then everybody has their

996
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: take on Cooper Flag the next day. As soon as

997
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: I saw this, I was just I just shrugged my

998
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: shoulders and said, Okay, that's not super impressive numbers, but

999
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: who cares. Let's see what he does going forward. And

1000
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: then tonight he has thirty one. Yes, he goes ten

1001
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: of twenty or ten of twenty one from the field, right,

1002
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: and it's a lot more aggressive out there and just

1003
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: makes more shots. Because some Knights you're gonna make shots,

1004
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: some nights you're not. Maybe there's a little bit of

1005
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: adrenaline rolling on that first night in Summer League. You know,

1006
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: a ton of people are watching that. ESPN has marketed

1007
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: like it's a really big deal, not just because it's Flag,

1008
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: but because it was Brownie as well, So you add

1009
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 2: both of those two things in. I just if anybody,

1010
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know, because I didn't really pay attention

1011
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: to that much of the discourse afterwards. I hope that

1012
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: people didn't overreact like, oh, he's gonna be a bust.

1013
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: But I imagine that's the world that we live in.

1014
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: It's like instant reaction. He probably he may have overperformed

1015
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: a little bit on Saturday Night even though they lost,

1016
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: and he probably underperformed a little bit in Game one,

1017
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: And who really cares because he's gonna have, you know,

1018
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: borring some injury or something horrifying. He's probably gonna have

1019
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen year career in the league, and we're

1020
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: gonna get a whole lot bigger of a sample size

1021
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: on what Cooper Flag can do.

1022
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: No, you're right about that. There was one host that

1023
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: said he was waving the white flag on Cooper Flag

1024
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: after the No, I'm not kidding you.

1025
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Did that guy mean it or do you think he

1026
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: was just trying to generate discussion? Do you think that

1027
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: was an intellectually honest assessment of Cooper Flag that waved

1028
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: the flag with the two g's.

1029
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: I think he believed that. I'm not so sure, man. Yeah,

1030
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm not believing that. So you know, I just I

1031
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: do love him.

1032
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

1033
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: I don't put a lot of stock into these games.

1034
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see him out there and what

1035
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: he's going to do and run around and you could

1036
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: see it. Eighteen years old, he's just got all the

1037
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: physical tools. He's just got everything. You know, we were

1038
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: talking about w NBA popularity. Cooper Flag is the face

1039
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: of the NBA. He's going to be the most popular athlete.

1040
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: He's going to be the next Lebron James. People are

1041
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 3: going to know who Cooper Flag is. He's everybody's gonna

1042
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: want to watch him play and act. He may replace

1043
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: Jerry West as a logo.

1044
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 2: I mean the party hardy, hardy, hardy. We've gone from

1045
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: white Flag to He's going to replace the logo. He's

1046
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: the next face. Look easy. Now, I'm not gonna let

1047
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: I agree with you, like, we can't get too down

1048
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: on him when he has a bad night or whatever

1049
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: like that. We got to slow the roll on, let

1050
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: you get away with the extremes on either side.

1051
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: I think he didn't we say that about Lebron when

1052
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: he came into the NBA, that he was going to

1053
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: be the new face of the NBA, that he was,

1054
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 3: you know, the next kid genius and the next kid

1055
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: everything and this guy was all everything And it turned

1056
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: out that way as it did. But didn't we say

1057
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: everything about that about Lebron when he came into the NBA.

1058
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, But that was a different time too.

1059
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm looking around this league and all the young

1060
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: talent in the league, and I'm not saying that that

1061
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: you could you couldn't be right. I'm just saying that

1062
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: that's a conclusion that I think there's not really any evidence.

1063
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 3: To draw that yet, no base. But we saw him.

1064
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Just wait a little bit before we jumped the gun.

1065
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: Well, the show is today. As of today, I'm telling you,

1066
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: this guy is going to be just transitional.

1067
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: He's he is going to be transitional.

1068
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: I know he's going to be transcendent. Yeah, Transcendent is

1069
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 3: the word I'm looking for.

1070
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: I just thought he might be a transitional guy, right

1071
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: like the league might be transitioning to the Cooper Flag era.

1072
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: I just think he's going to be Yeah, thank you,

1073
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: He's going to be the every thing about him is

1074
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: going to be Ratings and they're gonna put their games

1075
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: on the air, and he's gonna just he's gonna be

1076
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: the face of the NBA. You wait, do you see

1077
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: what the NBA has in Cooper Flag. It's gonna be

1078
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: close to what the WNBA has with Caitland Clark. That's

1079
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: what it's gonna be like.

1080
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of players that you will pay

1081
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: to watch in the NBA. Like that's the difference. Caitlin

1082
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: Clark's a unicorn in that she's the only real attraction.

1083
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 2: So I will try to argue against this, but I'm

1084
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: sorry for the vast majority of the non WNBA hardcorese

1085
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: or regulars. You watch Kaitlyn Clark and that's about it.

1086
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case in the NBA. I

1087
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: don't think Cooper Flag is a unicorn because it's not

1088
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: a unicorn league. He could still, you could be right,

1089
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: he could end up being a face of league right

1090
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: like that. I'm not suggesting that part is untrue. I'm

1091
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: suggesting it would be hard for him to have a

1092
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark impact because the league is already on such

1093
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: a better foundation from a star perspective.

1094
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: Oh you see the difference. He's already made in the

1095
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: first two preseason games. And it's not like Bronni James,

1096
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: who we wanted to watch because his father was Lebron.

1097
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: We're talking about a talent here. That's why we wanted

1098
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: to watch the first two games. I went out of

1099
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 3: my way. There was nobody that was going to have

1100
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: me tune in the Summer League this summer. If you

1101
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: told me that Jalen Brunson was going to play for

1102
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: the nixt Summer League team, I don't think I would

1103
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: have tuned in. I probably wouldn't have tuned in.

1104
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: I was so what Osle You would have come on

1105
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: the air and say, what are you doing? Get hurt

1106
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: playing league?

1107
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: Or if Lebron played so then what I don't I

1108
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: don't care. The only person that could get me to

1109
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: tune in was Cooper Flag And.

1110
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 2: Did you watch Wemby?

1111
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 3: I did watch Wemby's first game, Yes.

1112
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: Did you watch? Well, I can't even played because he

1113
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: might have been hurt. I would say that Flag's the

1114
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: biggest biggest prospect since his iron absolutely fair enough in

1115
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: terms of how he was perceived coming into the league.

1116
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I think there's a more upside with Cooper Flag,

1117
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: but yes, what are the people wanted to see? What?

1118
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: People wanted to see what Zion was going to do.

1119
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: They watched his first Summer League game. But he's not

1120
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 3: nearly as polarizing as Cooper Flag, There's no doubt.

1121
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 2: So Wemby just because he wasn't in the States, like

1122
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: we heard a lot about him, but we watched Zion

1123
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: at Duke and we watched Cooper Flag a Duke. I

1124
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: think that might be one of the reasons different, just

1125
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: because it was something that was happening in this country.

1126
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I'm with you. Like Zion, I

1127
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 2: was skeptical up from the beginning, just because I thought

1128
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: his health was going to be a problem, not a

1129
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: skill set, not what he was able to do on

1130
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: the floor. I just thought because the way his body

1131
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: was made up and the explosiveness with which he played,

1132
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure how it was going to hold up.

1133
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: And unfortunately it really hasn't, and some other things have

1134
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: gone wrong for him as well, even though he look

1135
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: he's still got time to write his career differently, perhaps,

1136
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: But outside of that, I would say, are we looking

1137
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: at a league at some point that's going to be

1138
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: Wemby versus Flag.

1139
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: No, I look, I think you.

1140
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: Still see a bunch of other guys in that mix.

1141
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 3: No, No, I think Wenby's going to be a good player,

1142
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: but not nearly as polarizing as Cooper Flag. Matter of fact,

1143
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 3: I think Cooper Flag if you look up, like who's

1144
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: googled more, it's got to be like Cooper Flag more

1145
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: name than any other name in the in the NBA

1146
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: right now. He's he's the face of the NBA right now.

1147
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys know that he's he's

1148
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: more people Flag.

1149
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: Is he face of the NBA right now?

1150
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, more people are gonna want to watch a Cooper

1151
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: Flag play than any other player in the NBA right now.

1152
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: Can you tell me another player in the NBA right

1153
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 3: now that did rather watch over Cooper Flag? No, you can't.

1154
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's probably a handful lag.

1155
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: No, there's no zero, there's zero because.

1156
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: I still think there's a name recognition thing that there's

1157
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: still a lot of casuals that don't know who Cooper

1158
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: Flag is yet. It's still gonna take some time, but

1159
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: they still know who Lebron is. They still know who

1160
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 2: Steph Curry is, they know who Abron. It thank you're watching.

1161
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 2: I still think you're picking Steph, Like, okay, look for

1162
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: the curiosity factor in somebody that's new and fresh. I'll disagree, right.

1163
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: But on the flip side, I I think that like

1164
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: the long term, the long term fans certainly would want

1165
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 2: to watch Cooper Flag now because he's seen the rest.

1166
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: But the casual I still think is gonna come for

1167
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: Steph and Lebron first because they know who that is.

1168
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: There's still it's going to take time for Cooper Flag

1169
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: to become household.

1170
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: You could be both. Did it take a long time

1171
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: for Magic and Larry to become I don't know.

1172
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: Nie, You're gonna have to tell me about that. I mean,

1173
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: I saw, I saw a good bit of their pro career,

1174
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: but I did not see when they entered the league.

1175
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: I remember it might have been the first game of

1176
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: the year. The Lakers hit a Kareem hit, had shot

1177
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: from the corner a hook sean to win the game,

1178
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 3: and Magic just went absolutely crazy. Uh and the plays

1179
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: was just going absolutely nuts and creams like a slowdown

1180
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 3: big guy. We got to like, any one more games

1181
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: to go? But yeah, they made a difference. People wanted

1182
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: to watch Magic and Larry right away, right off the bat.

1183
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: And I don't remember what it was like with TV

1184
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: back in those days, so it was probably tough. But

1185
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 3: same thing with Cooper fig They want to watch what

1186
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: he can do well.

1187
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: I want to listen to and talk to our friend

1188
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: Mark Medina about Cooper flying, Summer League, and maybe a

1189
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: little bit of Lakers talk as well. That'll be on

1190
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: the other side of this. Breaks that don't go anywhere.

1191
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: He's already Spannier. I'm Jason Martin. This is Fox Sports Radio.

1192
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1193
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1194
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,600
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1195
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 4: listen live.

1196
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. He's

1197
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: already span here. I am Jason Martin. We're gonna have

1198
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: Martin Medina talk Summer League, maybe talk some Lakers. It's

1199
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: some NBA with us here momentarily, but first let's get

1200
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: an update from our friend mister Steve de Sager.

1201
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 7: Steve, Hello, once again, you guys were talking about Summer

1202
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 7: League TV ratings, which I just literally tonight happened to

1203
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 7: run across and for ESPN Over the years, the best

1204
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 7: Summer League rating they've had was Zion Williamson's debut in

1205
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 7: twenty nineteen. That game got one point six million viewers.

1206
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 7: Number two on the list was Victor wibin Yama's debut

1207
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 7: a couple of years ago one point four million. Number

1208
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 7: three on the list a twenty seventeen Celtics Lakers game

1209
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 7: Jason Tatum and Lonzo Ball one point one million. And

1210
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 7: number four on the list is now the Cooper Flag

1211
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 7: game on Thursday when Dallas played the Lakers. That was

1212
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 7: close to one million viewers, and Cooper Flag did have

1213
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 7: thirty one points for Dallas. Today, Spurs beat the Mavericks

1214
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 7: seventy six sixty nine, meaning that Flag had thirty one

1215
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 7: of the sixty nine points. Geez Ryan Emhard one of

1216
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 7: ten shooting in this game. He had seven assists, five turnovers,

1217
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 7: six fouls for the Spurs. Dylan Harper sixteen points. Eight

1218
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 7: games a day at the Las Vegas Summer League. It

1219
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 7: started Thursday. It goes from July tenth to twentieth. Oklahoma

1220
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 7: City over the Pacers one oh four to eighty five.

1221
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 7: Former first rounder Nicola Tapicic has had some bad games

1222
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 7: in the past week, but not today ten assists for him.

1223
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 7: Buddy Beheim of the Pacers oh of six shooting off

1224
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 7: the bench, all from three point range. The Lakers tonight

1225
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 7: beat New Orleans ninety four to eighty one. Brownie James

1226
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 7: with fourteen points, three assists, four turnovers with his dad

1227
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 7: in attendance. Derek Queen of the Pelicans twelve points, thirteen rebounds,

1228
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 7: seven fouls. No, you do not file out with six

1229
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 7: in Summer League minnese eight.

1230
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: You can go to ten.

1231
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1232
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 7: Minnesota defeated Denver ninety four eighty three. Terrence Shannon from

1233
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 7: Illinois had twenty four points. Guard Cole Anthony is reportedly

1234
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 7: being bought out by Memphis. He plans to sign with Milwaukee.

1235
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 7: The new president of the NBA Players Union is the Rockets,

1236
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 7: Fred Van Vliet, taking over for CJ McCollum. Just two

1237
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 7: w NBA games, Chicago a winner Angel Reaes nineteen points,

1238
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 7: eleven rebounds, six turnovers. Her team was six and thirteen

1239
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 7: but beat minnesot Ia eighty seven eighty one. Minnesota was

1240
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 7: eighteen and three for the Minnesota side and the FISA.

1241
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 7: Collier missed a free throw, breaking her streak at fifty

1242
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 7: four straight.

1243
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

1244
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 7: Las Vegas one O four, one O two over Golden

1245
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 7: State Asia Wilson, back from missing the last game with

1246
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 7: a wrist injury. Wilson thirty four points, sixteen rebounds, no turnovers.

1247
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 3: By the way.

1248
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 7: Caitlin Clark of Indiana returned from injury on Wednesday. She'd

1249
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 7: missed the previous five games with a groin injury and

1250
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 7: again struggled from three point range one of seven Friday,

1251
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 7: she had twelve points, nine assists. Clark is one of

1252
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 7: the All Star Game captains along with Collier. Indianapolis is

1253
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 7: going to be hosting the WNBA All Star Game next Saturday.

1254
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: Vegas.

1255
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 7: Fiontek won the Wimbledon Women's Final six love, six love

1256
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 7: against Amanda and Nissimova of the US. This means that

1257
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 7: Wimbledon siatech now the eighth consecutive first time women's champion.

1258
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 7: Not just no repeats, it's the last eight times they've

1259
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 7: had Wimbledon. It's somebody who's never won the event before.

1260
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 7: The Wimbledon Men's Final is Sunday. Rory McElroy moved into

1261
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 7: a tie for first at the Scottish Open. Brown second

1262
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 7: round running back quin Shawn Judkins was arrested for domestic violence.

1263
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 7: Former Cardinals Pro Bowl tackle Lewis Sharp died at the

1264
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 7: age of sixty five. Two late ballgames in the major leagues.

1265
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 7: One of them has gone final in Anaheim Angels ten

1266
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 7: to five over Arizona despite a couple of early home

1267
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 7: runs from the Diamondbacks au Henneo Suarez. He has thirty

1268
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 7: one top of the eighth in Sacramento A's four to

1269
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 7: three over Toronto. The Blue Jays are first in the

1270
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 7: AL East. They started the day two games up on

1271
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 7: the Yankees, and the Yankees lost in New York five

1272
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 7: to two to the Cubs. Milwaukee with three in the

1273
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 7: bottom of the ninth beat Washington six to five. Brewers

1274
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 7: have won six straight. The Red Sox won their ninth

1275
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 7: in a row one nothing over Tampa Bay a three

1276
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 7: hitter for Garrett Crochet. Mets won three to one at

1277
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 7: Kansas City, and the Mets are now in first in

1278
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 7: the NL East, half game up on the Phillies, who

1279
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 7: lost five to four at San Diego and Houston in

1280
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 7: eleven innings beat Texas tonight with two runs in the

1281
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 7: bottom of the elevens.

1282
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you, Steve. We'll have a long

1283
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 2: segment with Steve. A little bit later on, He's at

1284
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: Mark g Underscore Medina on X and I saw his

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Speaker 2: latest tweet. I was just googling it and it says

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Speaker 2: Lebron James just left the Lakers Pelicans game with about

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Speaker 2: five minutes to play. And I thought, man, this must

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Speaker 2: be like months old. This is not his latest one.

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Speaker 2: Then I read it again and I saw okay two

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Speaker 2: hours ago and said, what am I missing? Oh no,

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Speaker 2: he was at the game. He wasn't playing in the game.

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Speaker 2: So I read that I read the comment completely wrong.

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Speaker 2: So that's how I bring in Mark by saying that

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Speaker 2: I completely misread his X account. Mark, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Not too much? You know what.

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Speaker 8: I think we're all misreading a lot of Lebron's actions

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Speaker 8: because they're very conflicted and contradictory. But that's what happens

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Speaker 8: because that's Lebron James experience for you.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk some Summer League before we

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Speaker 2: even get there. Tell me what is going on with

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Speaker 2: Lebron in your opinion? Talked about it to lead off

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Speaker 2: the show. The big story that came out from Windhorst

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Speaker 2: and Ramona Shelburn backing up a lot of other reporting

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Speaker 2: and then there was a change in the article. So

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Speaker 2: where do we stand and what is your opinion of

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Speaker 2: where we're going here?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the fascinating thing is where it ends

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Speaker 8: isn't really dramatic.

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Speaker 6: I think that he is going.

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Speaker 8: To be a Laker next season, and it'll retire as

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Speaker 8: a Laker either probably next season, maybe even the following,

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Speaker 8: but I think it's going to be next season. But

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Speaker 8: I think what's what's happening here is this is Lebron's

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Speaker 8: really last chance to exert any kind of pressure, even

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Speaker 8: if it's not real to the front office about having

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Speaker 8: a championship contending team. And I think that from the

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Speaker 8: Lakers perspective, they want to win a championship. It doesn't

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Speaker 8: have to be an either or you know, they don't

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Speaker 8: want to squander Luka Doncica's prime yeers either. But I

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Speaker 8: think there's a difference of making win now moves just

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Speaker 8: for this season while still preserving calf flexibility. So I

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Speaker 8: think really that's the source of frustration. Lebron James has

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Speaker 8: everything else, you know, it's been I think extra curricular,

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Speaker 8: and as a result, I think he's still going to

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Speaker 8: be in a Lakers uniform because the reality is the

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Speaker 8: Lakers aren't going to get enough assets that make it work.

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Speaker 8: That to Tray Lebron James, I don't think there's really

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Speaker 8: enough of a market for a team to, you know,

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Speaker 8: really mortgage their future just to get him for one season.

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Speaker 8: So as a result, it's going to end up in

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Speaker 8: a whole lot of nothing.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: You know, Marcus said, you think he's going to retire

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Speaker 3: as a Laker. Does that mean you think he's going

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Speaker 3: to retire after this year or he's going to play

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Speaker 3: many more years with the Lakers.

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't think it's going to be many more

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Speaker 8: years because he's going to be forty one in December thirtieth.

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Speaker 8: I thought before all this.

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Speaker 6: He was going to have two more years.

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Speaker 8: But that was because I thought he was going to

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Speaker 8: opt out and negotiate a relatively smaller deal because Luca

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Speaker 8: is on the team, they have a chance to win.

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Speaker 8: But Lebron decided to max his earnings.

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Speaker 6: Which is fine.

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Speaker 8: He has that right, and even though he doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 8: need the money, at this point, he's in the billionaire club.

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Speaker 8: I think part of it has to do with one,

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Speaker 8: he took pay cuts earlier in his career. Two he

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Speaker 8: is being prepared to try to become an owner at

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Speaker 8: some point, maybe when Vegas gets a team, and when

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Speaker 8: you do that, you need to have as much liquid

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Speaker 8: cash as possible. So yeah, I think at the end

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Speaker 8: of the day, the Lakers they're not going to force

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Speaker 8: the issue as far as him retiring as a Laker.

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Speaker 6: But I no talk with Genie Buss.

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Speaker 8: Over the years, she has said that it would mean

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Speaker 8: a lot for the Lakers and the brand for him

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Speaker 8: to retire as a Laker because of just their franchise

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Speaker 8: history with having so many iconic.

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Speaker 2: Players iconic players earlier. Actually, last segment, Arnie Spaniers suggested

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Speaker 2: that Cooper Flag is already the face of the NBA,

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Speaker 2: to which I pushed back pretty strongly and said, let's

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Speaker 2: let him play in the NBA first, because he's playing

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Speaker 2: in the summer league. But I do think the extremes

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Speaker 2: on both sides are interesting, just that some people here

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Speaker 2: watch one game they don't like it, then he s

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Speaker 2: thirty one tonight. What the what sort of kind of

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Speaker 2: the buzz around Cooper Flag a summer league is kind

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Speaker 2: of kicking into full gear.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I don't think he's the face of the

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Speaker 8: NBA yet, only because there's still different options, whether it's

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Speaker 8: Luka Daci ch Anthony Edwards, victor One Banyama. But I

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Speaker 8: could very well see him to come in the face

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Speaker 8: of the NBA at some point earlier in his career because.

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Speaker 6: He has a complete package.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this isn't hyperbole at all. Talking to Mark

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Speaker 8: Cuban after the seat of the Summer League opener, he

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Speaker 8: was liking a few thags. He said that his step

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Speaker 8: back jumper remind him of the early stages of what

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Speaker 8: Dirk Navinski had during this one of year career. He

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Speaker 8: also said it wasn't a direct player comparison, but he said,

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Speaker 8: in light of his poor shooting numbers, you know, his

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Speaker 8: trajectory might be similar to how Kobe I was where

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Speaker 8: you know, he was drafted as a high school phenom.

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Speaker 8: There was a lot of hype, but he didn't start

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Speaker 8: right away. It took him, you know, two years before

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Speaker 8: he starts finally seeing what makes him such a special player.

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Speaker 8: And with Cooper's case, he's not the number one option

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Speaker 8: because he's joining the team with Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 8: and Klay Thompson, and so unlike other number one picks,

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Speaker 8: he's not going to be expected to carry the franchise

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Speaker 8: right away.

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Speaker 6: But guys, like.

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Speaker 8: Before the draft, talking to different people around the league,

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Speaker 8: they all projected he'll be a multi year All Star,

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Speaker 8: multa year All NBA player, and like we will get

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Speaker 8: those knots every single season besides his rookie year. I mean,

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Speaker 8: he has a complete skill set. Is a great score,

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Speaker 8: great dunker, great passer, great teammate, great worker. And I

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Speaker 8: know his trainer really well, Mac McKenzie. You know, these

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Speaker 8: last few months, he's in a really tight circle where

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Speaker 8: they're always scrutinizing his game and trying to figure out

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Speaker 8: how to get better. I mean so much that he

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Speaker 8: wasn't worried about his poor shooting performance in the Summer

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Speaker 8: League opener. But Matt was telling me today that he

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Speaker 8: was so upset with himself with how poorly he shot

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Speaker 8: that he was just talking a lot of shops, you know,

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Speaker 8: before today's game, on how to improve you know, his

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Speaker 8: shot making and rhythm, so that that wasn't an issue

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Speaker 8: moving forward.

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Speaker 3: He may be the first hundred million dollar a year

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Speaker 3: player when when it's all said and done, but when

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Speaker 3: you get to the arena, what was like the buzz

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Speaker 3: like I hear that there was a line before the

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Speaker 3: first game that people were waiting like eight to ten

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Speaker 3: hours in line to get into the arena for the

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Speaker 3: game or something. What's the buzz in there like that?

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Speaker 2: For that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there was definitely a buzz.

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Speaker 8: Now, incidentally, there was actually more buzz for Brownie James

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Speaker 8: in the Summer League opener, but that's only because there's

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Speaker 8: more Laker fans here at Summer League, because the Lakers

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Speaker 8: are a global brand. LA is closer to Vegas than Dallas.

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Speaker 8: But no mistake about it. When when Flag was playing

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Speaker 8: against the Lakers, when he was laying against the Spurs,

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Speaker 8: everyone was really excited. Anytime he got the ball, he

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Speaker 8: would he threw down a few dunks. He's really great

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Speaker 8: in transition, and the crowd just love just how assertive

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Speaker 8: he is with trying to make the right basketball play.

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Speaker 8: Didn't necessarily correlate with him hitting shots consistently, but he

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Speaker 8: had the complete package everywhere else, and so you're seeing

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Speaker 8: a lot of excitement throughout each game.

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Speaker 2: What else is happening outside of Flag? Anybody impressing, anybody

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Speaker 2: raising some eyebrows in the wrong direction. I know, Ace

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Speaker 2: Bailey didn't have a great first game that he played

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Speaker 2: a lot better of the second games, and I know

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Speaker 2: we're going to see a lot of that, But is

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Speaker 2: there any other kind of intel coming out of Summer

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Speaker 2: League that feels particularly newsworthy?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you know this isn't highlight reels. This

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Speaker 8: is just more of the reality. Like guys like DJ

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Speaker 8: Edgecombe and con Kin Nipple, they missed their second Summer

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Speaker 8: Week game because it's just they're trying to be cautious

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Speaker 8: with minor knickknack injuries. But I think as far as

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Speaker 8: the notable highlights, I think Jeremiah Fears has gotten a

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Speaker 8: lot of buzz with the Pelicans.

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Speaker 6: Same thing with Derek Queens.

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Speaker 8: They're players that have struggled with foals, struggle with turnovers,

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Speaker 8: but they are very aggressive, very confident. Jeremiah is a

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Speaker 8: very very quick point guard, and they're really given the

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Speaker 8: keys to both of those players to try to carry

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Speaker 8: this team moving forward.

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Speaker 6: I mean, to be clear, this is Zion Williamson's team.

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Speaker 8: But because the Pelicans have made a lot of different

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Speaker 8: moves this offseason with trading our way veterans, they're really

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Speaker 8: trying to groom these two players to become pretty important

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Speaker 8: players for the next season, and so far, aside from

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Speaker 8: the turnovers, I really like their aggressiveness of confidence together.

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Speaker 3: Are the Are the other games sold out or are

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Speaker 3: they just it's just for to see Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 6: No, the game.

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Speaker 8: The games aren't sold out. But you have to keep

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Speaker 8: in mind here your ticket at Summer League. You could

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Speaker 8: say as long or as little as you want, so

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Speaker 8: you know, when you buy a ticket that gives you

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Speaker 8: access to see every simple game.

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Speaker 6: I'm at the Blazers game right now.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of mcc so. But at the same

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Speaker 8: time you're talking, you know, nine forty and Vegas.

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Speaker 6: On Saturday night.

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Speaker 8: But it's a very well attended event because you can

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Speaker 8: see so many different young players and different guys, and it's,

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Speaker 8: you know, compared to an NBA regular season ticket, it's

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Speaker 8: not that expensive.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we talked to you since the draft, Mark,

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Speaker 2: who do you feel really helped themselves in the draft?

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Speaker 2: We mentioned a lot of people seem to like what

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Speaker 2: Atlanta did in the draft and ended free agency when

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Speaker 2: it opened, as well as anybody else kind of really

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Speaker 2: improved their fortunes or we're gone in the opposite direction.

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Speaker 2: Seems like the Pacers and Miles Turner, that one was

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Speaker 2: one that seemed like it really disappointed a lot of

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Speaker 2: Indiana fans.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that the Miles Turner thing I think was the

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Speaker 8: biggest misstep because ironically, Miles Turner was on the trading

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Speaker 8: block almost his entire career of the dand then they

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Speaker 8: don't trade them and he has shown he is a

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Speaker 8: great defender, great stretch five and they had said it

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Speaker 8: it's their number one priority.

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Speaker 6: To retain him. And I know that, you know, they

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Speaker 6: don't always.

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Speaker 8: Have control and free agency, but they weren't proactive enough

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Speaker 8: and giving him enough of a dollar figure for him

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Speaker 8: to not listen to other offers. So I think that was.

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Speaker 6: The biggest disappointment.

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Speaker 8: I think the biggest draw is what the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 8: did prior to free agency, not just getting with Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 8: but what they didn't give up. They still have Amantops

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Speaker 8: and they still have Outbreage Singer, and I still think

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Speaker 8: that the Oklahoma City Thunder are the favorite to repeat it,

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Speaker 8: let alone get out of the West, but there is

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Speaker 8: a team that could challenge the Thunder next season the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: I put my money on the Rockets to be able

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Speaker 8: to do that because they have that great combination of

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Speaker 8: an established star player that knows how to win at

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Speaker 8: a high level, but a lot of good young players

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Speaker 8: that compliment him well. So I think that Kevin Durant

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Speaker 8: experienced at Houston's almost the complete opposite of the Phoenix Suns,

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Speaker 8: where that team top heavy a lot of termal oil

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Speaker 8: within ownership and coaching staffs. With the Rockets, it's been

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Speaker 8: stability ever since they made that James Harden try a

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Speaker 8: fee years ago, and they're they're off and running, and

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Speaker 8: I think they're just gonna get started.

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Speaker 3: Just one more thing, because I gotta know, what does

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Speaker 3: Mark Mendina do in Vegas on a Saturday night at

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: ten o'clock? Is it blackjack? Is it crabs poker? I

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Speaker 3: can only imagine what you're going to be doing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I definitely have dinner dinner plans with my

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Speaker 8: wife and then we're going to go to the red

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Speaker 8: up table. That's my game of choy, where you go

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,480
Speaker 8: I usually lose money, but you can prolong the experience

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01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 8: because it's takes a while for the numbers to land.

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Speaker 8: And you know what, one year I walked out four

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Speaker 8: hundred dollars, So maybe this year is a year to

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Speaker 8: repeat nice.

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Speaker 2: You luck Mark, appreciate your brother. That's Mark Medina. He's

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Speaker 2: at Mark Underscore Medina. That's a good question. That was

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: a solid question right there, and I think that answer

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Speaker 2: was probably fairly honest and also safe for his family,

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Speaker 2: So smart on that front. Make sure you're by the

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Speaker 2: way stream the show, all of our Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: shows live twenty four to seven and the new and

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Speaker 2: new features is you could select Fox Sports Radio as

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Speaker 2: with me and Arnie. Remember sure, all you gotta do

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1540
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Speaker 2: always pop up at the top of your screen. Popping

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Speaker 2: up after this break the segment with our friend Steve

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Speaker 2: di Seger go nowhere. He's Arnie Spanner. I'm Jason Martin.

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01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio Live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. It's Fox Sports Saturday. Arnie Spanier in for

1545
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,919
Speaker 2: Aaron Torres. I'm Jason Martin. Our thanks to Mark Medena,

1546
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 2: our NBA insider for a little bit of intel on

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: what's happening now to summer league and his thoughts that

1548
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: Lebron's gonna retire a Laker and he thinks it's gonna

1549
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: be after this year. Wow. So that's something right there,

1550
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 2: somebody that's never gonna retire, because greatness doesn't retire, It

1551
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: just ages like fine wine the Great Steve Disager. Time

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01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: for the de segment.

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Speaker 7: Steve, Well, we just deal with news, actual hard facts

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01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 7: here at the desk. So I'm not sure I can

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 7: confirm or deny all of what which just said. I

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 7: can't update something we talked about on last night's show.

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 7: First off, are you aware that we are already in

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01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 7: week six of the Canadian Football League season?

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 3: Wow?

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 7: I repeat, we are in week six. The schedule had

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 7: one game for Friday night, one for Saturday night, one

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 7: for Sunday night, and I guess a couple of teams.

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 7: It's only eight ten teams in the whole league, of course,

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,480
Speaker 7: but there was supposed to be a home game for Saskatchewan,

1565
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 7: which was four and oh, hosting the second place team Calgary. However,

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01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 7: they never wound up playing the game, and it wasn't

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 7: due to a weather delay. Per se. It wasn't waiting

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Speaker 7: for lightning and thunderstorms to pass here, and it was

1569
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 7: the air quality because of wildfires in the province. Wow,

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 7: they were waiting and making constant measurements of the air quality.

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Speaker 7: And I mean waiting and waiting. I read three hours

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Speaker 7: and forty five minutes last night. They waited until they

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 7: never kicked off and finally called the game and say

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Speaker 7: come back tomorrow. Your ticket for tonight will be good

1575
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 7: for tomorrow afternoon at two o'clock. And by the way,

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01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 7: for a Saturday, there will be limited food options at

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Speaker 7: the stadium. You can bring your own snacks.

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Speaker 2: Not bad boy, you can bring your own snacks.

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Speaker 7: Yes, they were prepared to if they got a good

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,799
Speaker 7: number on the air quality last night, they were prepared

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Speaker 7: to kick off the game at eleven fifteen as late

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Speaker 7: as that. They did eventually call it. They played it today.

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 7: Saskatchewan did lose at home twenty four to ten to Calgary.

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Speaker 2: They did play the game.

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, the Chargers and Lions have the Hall of Fame

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 7: game in the NFL this year to kick off the

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01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 7: preseason at the end of this month. So those are

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01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 7: the first two teams to have people report to camps

1589
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,919
Speaker 7: Chargers vets this week. Lions Vets report next Saturday. Chargers

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01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 7: rookies were reporting to training camp today and second round

1591
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 7: wide receiver Trey Harris from Ole Miss not there, not

1592
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 7: because he has anything against the Chargers necessarily, It's just

1593
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 7: that most of the second round is essentially boycotting their teams.

1594
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: They have yet to sign. They're all holding out, almost.

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 7: All of them because of what happened early a second rounder,

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01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 7: a Texans receiver became the first ever outside of round

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01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 7: one to get a fully guaranteed contract, and so then

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 7: the Browns gave their linebacker early second rounder a fully

1599
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 7: guaranteed deal, and now all of the other second rounders

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Speaker 7: have failed to sign. If you look at a list

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Speaker 7: of the unsigned draft picks of twenty twenty five, almost

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01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 7: all of them are from round two. There is that

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 7: Cincinnati first rounder due to contract language, the edge dresser

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01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 7: Shamar Stewart has not signed.

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Speaker 2: But overall in the.

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Speaker 7: League, it's almost ninety percent of the draft picks have

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Speaker 7: signed up to this point. But that does not include

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01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 7: I should say that does not include a list of Hey,

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01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 7: this guy from the second round is signed and that one. No,

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 7: most of the second round has not signed. We had

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Speaker 7: quite the sweep at the Wimbledon Women's final this morning.

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 7: Egos Fiantek, who's already won four French Open titles, wins

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 7: her first ever grass court event, and it's Wimbledon, and

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01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 7: she's now six and oh in major finals. And the

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 7: score here's the news, six oh six to oh against

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01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 7: Amanda and Issimova of the US. And it took just

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 7: fifty seven minutes.

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01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 3: Glad I didn't watch it.

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 7: You would have missed it if you blinked. That is

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01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 7: Anissimova committed twenty eight unforced airs and they only played

1621
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 7: twelve games of tennis. In the semis. She had upset

1622
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 7: number one Arena sabolenka I mentioned that match took over

1623
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 7: two and a half hours. This one not even one hour.

1624
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 7: Imagine spending the money for a Wimbledon finals ticket and

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 7: it's over in fifty seven minutes. Since nineteen eleven, only

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 7: one women's final in a major had ended six love,

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 7: six love, and that was a Stepfi graft win in

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01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 7: Paris in nineteen eighty eight. So it's Fiantek in her

1629
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 7: career in May, her record now one hundred wins, just

1630
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 7: twenty losses, The Wimbledon Men's final is Sunday. Number one

1631
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 7: Yanick Center, who swept Novak Djokovic in the semis, goes

1632
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 7: up against number two Carlos Alcarez tomorrow. Alcarez won a

1633
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 7: classic French Open final against this same opponent about a

1634
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 7: month ago. Alcarez has won twenty four straight matches. Indy

1635
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 7: Cars at Iowa this weekend. Saturday and Sunday races on

1636
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 7: Fox TV. Today. The event went to Pato Award. Joseph

1637
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,759
Speaker 7: Neugarden led most of the lapse but finished in second.

1638
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 7: And we mentioned it earlier that Brown's second round running

1639
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 7: back quin Shawn Judkins is in the news. Played for

1640
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 7: Old Miss in Ohio State, arrested for domestic filence.

1641
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an unfortunate story. You hope that maybe some

1642
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: of that is not not as bad as it sounds,

1643
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 2: but we will find out. We are going to talk

1644
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 2: some football, however, Ye sure, in the third hour of

1645
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: the show, how about college football and money being thrown

1646
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: around at Texas.

1647
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: Tech Crazy crazy and Dion.

1648
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 2: Back in the news and he thinks the athletic maybe

1649
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: not the hottest in town. We'll be right back and

1650
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: talk all about it.

1651
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1652
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 7: I'll go I'm Steve de Seger.

1653
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 2: Hour number three of the program Welcome Back or Welcome in.

1654
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: He's on a spaniel. I'm Jason Martin. Aaron Torres is

1655
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: out this week, says it would be the last time

1656
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 2: till after football probably July gets busy for him. You

1657
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 2: said earlier you didn't buy it.

1658
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't buy it. Yeah, I don't buy Yeah, he's

1659
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 3: always missing the time. He's all go back out to

1660
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 3: the Vegas or something like that. You know, I'll have

1661
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 3: something going on.

1662
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 4: I may.

1663
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be talking to you.

1664
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: I want to see him at the Yukon Arizona game

1665
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: in November in Connecticut. How great would that be?

1666
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: That's something else, man, That's a football game that I

1667
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: just couldn't possibly be bothered to care. Okay, all right,

1668
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 2: I was making sure you had to tell me it's November.

1669
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 2: It's November. I'm not thinking basketball, right, right, you're right,

1670
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: still think of football. But I also was like, why

1671
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: is Yukon playing Arizona in November and football they're not?

1672
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: That would be the answer.

1673
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: No, it was basketball. My bad, My bad.

1674
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: He's at stack of Genius one. I'm at JMAR Radio.

1675
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: If you want to find us on socials, you can

1676
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Speaker 2: do that eight seven and seven ninety nine on Fox

1677
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: to reach this eight seven seven nine nine six six

1678
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Speaker 2: three six nine. Talk plenty of hoops on this show.

1679
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 2: If you miss any part of it, go back podcast

1680
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: at wherever you get your cast. You can get Fox

1681
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Just search it, find it, you download it

1682
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: and try and chat it to our friend Mark Medena,

1683
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: who's out at Summer League covering that got the intel

1684
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: on Cooper Flag and we talked plenty of Lebron James Luka,

1685
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 2: Doncic and Lakers earlier in the program, a little bit

1686
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: of two K twenty six Angel Reese chatter as well.

1687
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: But let's actually talk some football. My wife asked me,

1688
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: she goes, when does football start? And I said, well,

1689
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: for me, when College Football twenty six comes out. Whatever.

1690
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 2: The pretty much when college football, when that game came out,

1691
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 2: is when I started caring. Now the years that they

1692
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 2: didn't have a college football game, it would still be

1693
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: around that time, and then it would just be us

1694
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 2: lamenting the fact that that game didn't exist.

1695
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: Football starts to be in the Hall of Fame game.

1696
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 3: That's that's when football gets in the way when we

1697
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 3: get the first Hall of Fame game.

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01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: Not quite there, but we're getting there. Yeah, I know,

1699
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: you guys had them on last week or you know

1700
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 2: somebody that's pretty close to this situation. But we're going

1701
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 2: to talk about Dion here in a minute. But Texas

1702
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: Tech is a fascinating story because Texas Tech is paying

1703
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 2: serious money and they have landed some incredible talent out

1704
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: of the transfer portal. They're loaded for bear. This is

1705
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 2: a year where you would think, if you can have

1706
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: the best team money can buy. They're pretty much in

1707
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: that mode at this stage. So this becomes an interesting

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 2: test case, I think, Arnie for what college football is

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01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: going to look like going forward. And I find it

1710
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: intriguing because it's not really one of the halves that

1711
01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: you would expect. It's a different team that's coming out

1712
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 2: and trying to even the playing field in the best

1713
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: way that they know how in sort of this new

1714
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: brand of college football. I find this to be quite

1715
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: the experiment that we're going to watch starting this fall.

1716
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Aaron torres knew Derek Shelby.

1717
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 3: He's the agent for Felix Oho, the young man who

1718
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: signed the three year guaranteed with Texas Tech, though when

1719
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 3: we're doing the math, it really didn't come out to

1720
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 3: three year five point one million dollars. Like all the

1721
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 3: reports came out earlier. It was like seven hundred thousand

1722
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 3: guaranteed per year, and then the rest is made up

1723
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 3: through donations and stuff like that and alumni and all that.

1724
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 3: But it seems like it was the first three year

1725
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 3: contract guaranteed, and I'm wondering if that's going to be

1726
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 3: the way of the future. He was very open and

1727
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 3: honest with us Texas Tech not only making a noise

1728
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: in football, but look what they did in basketball. Also

1729
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 3: the softball pitcher Kennedy that they have, she's getting over

1730
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 3: a million dollars. He represents her also, So Tech Tech

1731
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 3: making a lot of waves here. They have two guys,

1732
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 3: the oil and gas guys. Whatever they do, I forget

1733
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,879
Speaker 3: their names, but Plank knows all about them. They donate

1734
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 3: obviously a lot of money. But the first twenty million,

1735
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 3: I believe, you know, obviously come from you know, like

1736
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 3: everybody else's year up. The first twenty million is what

1737
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 3: all the teams have to deal with.

1738
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: Y's capt it twenty and a half, right, right.

1739
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that. And after that it's where you're

1740
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: going to find the money. After that, that's a lot

1741
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 3: of money to give him. You know, Texas Tech was

1742
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 3: not even in the final five or seven teams when

1743
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 3: they cut it down. They only joined the list when

1744
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 3: they came up with the money that they were going

1745
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 3: to go ahead and pay him. Then they're like, oh,

1746
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 3: he well, let'll put you in the final five or

1747
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 3: or seven. And he took his trick to his trip

1748
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: to Lubbock and said, you know what, let's do it.

1749
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 3: And they were the highest priced out of all the

1750
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: teams out there. The other teams pretty much said no

1751
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 3: to the three year guarantee, said they they couldn't do it.

1752
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 3: I think there may be Texas Tech and one other

1753
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 3: team promised a three year guarantee. So we went with

1754
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and it was a It was a big

1755
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: contract for the young man and his family, so so

1756
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 3: good for them.

1757
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. So to your point about Oho, it looks like

1758
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: the five point one I've seen reporting. I think the

1759
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Athletics said two point three with the potential for more, right,

1760
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 2: they could come out of that, So I don't think

1761
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: it's just five point one straight. I don't think there's

1762
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: incentives like potential to increase. I think is exactly how

1763
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: it's written here, right. But if you look at some

1764
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: of the comments in the article about like some of

1765
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: the coaches, some of them are calling it childish. They're

1766
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: saying this is look at me stuff and all this,

1767
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: and some of them are saying good for them, And

1768
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the right feeling, because whether you

1769
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: like it or not, it's what college football is now.

1770
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: This is this is what we're looking at. This is

1771
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: the world we're looking at. I'm not really I don't know.

1772
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 2: I'll have to see how I feel about college ball

1773
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 2: five ten years from now. I still think I'm gonna

1774
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: love the sport, but it's just going to be different

1775
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 2: the way that the way that you're rooted for it.

1776
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: If this was Alabama that signed this young man, it'd

1777
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 3: be a different narrative about the whole signing or what.

1778
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know. I don't know

1779
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: how much different it would be. I think the only

1780
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: change would just be this is a this is a

1781
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 2: blue blood that's continuing to do what they have to

1782
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: do to stay on top. I don't I don't know

1783
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: that it would be seen differently. I just think it

1784
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: would kind of it would get more of a shoulder shrug.

1785
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 3: And somehow blame Nick Saban somehow. I don't know how.

1786
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's probably true. Yeah, I mean I

1787
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: think that's probably it. I mean, when you I would

1788
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 2: be curious to know who these coaches are that stayed

1789
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 2: anonymous right that said it's not good for college football

1790
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 2: and calling them ridiculous and all this other cust of stuff.

1791
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if those are the halves what's not good

1792
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: for halves or the have nots.

1793
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 3: The three year guarantee or the money amount, what's because

1794
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 3: I know what, d you need.

1795
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: Some money amount? I think the one that said, the

1796
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: one that used to quote ridiculous talked about how they're

1797
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: they're not bidding against anybody else. They're paying three times

1798
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 2: more than everybody else. Well, and I think they're just

1799
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: trying to create a sense now of people next year,

1800
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: of guys and their families and whoever's representing them at

1801
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: this point making their decision in college that this is

1802
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 2: this is a place that's willing to just pay you

1803
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 2: what they think you're worth, as opposed to just trying

1804
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 2: to outbid the other guy. Why they're trying to go

1805
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: so far and beyond?

1806
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 3: Why is this money ridiculous? Did you see the story

1807
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 3: about what Cooper Flagg was making it Duke, Now, Chris

1808
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 3: Plank says he doesn't believe it and we could cut

1809
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 3: it in two thirds. But did you see the story

1810
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 3: that said he was making twenty eight million in nil money.

1811
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how you come up with that type

1812
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 3: of money. But even if it was half that, that's

1813
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 3: fourteen million. Nobody ever said anything about Cooper flag making

1814
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 3: that type of money. All of a sudden, Now we're

1815
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,839
Speaker 3: going after a kid that's supposedly making what a million

1816
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 3: dollars in a year. That's crazy.

1817
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's just that they're

1818
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 2: paying for so many guys and this is leg so

1819
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: you look at all of that. I mean, so they're

1820
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 2: going to pay what fifty five million Texas Tech in

1821
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: nil across all sports. And then of course, so they've

1822
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: got another basically thirty five past that cap limit of

1823
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: twenty and a half. So they've got, you know, a

1824
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: softball pitcher, and they've got some other players. They've got

1825
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: the toppings on the basketball team. That's a stud there

1826
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: I think they're paying him more than three million dollars.

1827
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: And then they got twenty transfers or twenty actually more

1828
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: than twenty transferred it transfers in and a lot of

1829
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 2: these were some of those high ranked guys that a

1830
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: lot of teams wanted, and they just kept on paying

1831
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: them and bringing him innut.

1832
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 3: This is what want.

1833
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 2: You would say it's not good for college football is

1834
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 2: because you're a school that doesn't want to keep having

1835
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 2: to up the anti year after year. I do think

1836
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: they're there. At some point it's going to become outrageous,

1837
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: and I do think that college football is going to

1838
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 2: you talk about certain things. Certain luxuries price themselves out

1839
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: of the market. Sometimes products place themselves and price themselves

1840
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: out of the market because the real fans can no

1841
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: longer afford to go to the games, for example, and

1842
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: now these luxury boxes and everything, everybody's PSL prices go up,

1843
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: So now you don't have the same people in the seats.

1844
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: The same fans that have been in there for thirty

1845
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: years are no longer are and so you've got companies,

1846
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: and so the fan base and the volume there and

1847
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: things like that, everything changes. So I think that that

1848
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: might be how you look at college football is there's

1849
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of schools that are just going

1850
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: to be priced out of the market.

1851
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 3: No, you're right about that. That's going to hurt them

1852
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 3: as mostly something you can do right. And I'm not

1853
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 3: sure whether there's so many good players though, so maybe

1854
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 3: it'll be a trickle down effect. But this is what

1855
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 3: you wanted, right, This is what you and everybody else

1856
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: was clamoring about when you said we got to pay Well,

1857
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 3: when you say you got to pay the athletes and that,

1858
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: this is what we had to do in the athletes

1859
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 3: deserve their fair share, and you know they they make

1860
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 3: the NCAA make so much money pay the athletes. So

1861
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 3: now we're paying the athletes. Now people like, well we're

1862
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 3: paying them too much. Now, well, you can't have it

1863
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 3: both ways. This is the you know, this is what

1864
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 3: they're worth. This is their value. Uh and and they

1865
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 3: want their fair share, they want their value there. So

1866
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 3: I have no problem with it.

1867
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: Well, you said you as if like, well, you're the

1868
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 2: greatest now you felt about it? No, I know, but

1869
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 2: are you talking about you included in that as well?

1870
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't. No, I wasn't big on paying the

1871
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: At first, I didn't want to pay the athletes. Later on,

1872
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,799
Speaker 3: I kind of changed my mind. I did the one eighty,

1873
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 3: and people were, you know, I saw how much money

1874
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 3: was being made, and I said, we got to give

1875
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 3: them something.

1876
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 4: You know.

1877
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 3: It was to the point where kids were they can't

1878
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 3: even have lun shot side the summer and can't have dinner,

1879
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 3: and they're starving to death. I'm like, okay, enough, let's

1880
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 3: give them something. Whether it's like fucking around money they

1881
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 3: you know, five hundred one thousand a month. I thought

1882
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 3: something like that, but I never thought I would get

1883
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 3: to something like this, to be honest with you.

1884
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, one person that well, I don't know. He

1885
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 2: said two different things. Dion was all in the news. Yeah,

1886
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 2: Arnie Dion. He said one thing and then he kind

1887
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 2: of flipped on the other side and said the exact

1888
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 2: opposite thing. And in the process he also called the

1889
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: athletic what do you call it? Bunk bull junk bull

1890
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: junk bull junker.

1891
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: Right.

1892
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: I think that's actually about the same thing. I think

1893
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: if you take Oul John away from it, then you've

1894
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: got bunk, right, Like you basically had the exact same

1895
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 2: things at that point. So Dion's doing his thing. Man,

1896
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 2: he's got I don't know these I'm curious to know

1897
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: what side he's actually on. But what do you make

1898
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 2: of just everything surrounding Dion as it relates to this topic.

1899
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 3: Well, he wants a salary cap, I guess in college football.

1900
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 3: Now he didn't want a salary cap when his son

1901
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: and Travis or we're playing in college football. But now,

1902
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, let's go ahead it.

1903
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, the money's getting bigger.

1904
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, well how much bigger? How much money did Shadur

1905
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 3: make you.

1906
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 2: Know in Colgorado?

1907
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure hell of a lot more than the

1908
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 3: average college football player. I think Dion's a year too late,

1909
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 3: and it really it's kind of bothers me. Then all

1910
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 3: of a sudden he wants to have a salary cap.

1911
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at dion salary and how much

1912
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 3: he's making, and some of the other coaches are making

1913
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 3: in NCAA football, they're making tons of money. So I

1914
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 3: don't want to hear a salary cap when it comes

1915
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 3: to college football. This is the door you opened up,

1916
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 3: so everybody stepped through it. As for well, we'll get

1917
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 3: to what he called the athletic later on, But I

1918
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 3: think he made a major mistake with that. Well, he

1919
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 3: made a mistake the athletic he doesn't like. They asked

1920
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 3: him a question, said, yeah, yeah, you're that thing that

1921
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 3: you guys are a bunch of bull junk and he

1922
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't answer their question. Don't like that, you

1923
01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I don't like when you could

1924
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 3: pick and choose who you want to talk to. But

1925
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 3: I guess that's the that's the way of the future.

1926
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,839
Speaker 3: That's what we do now. If you don't like somebody,

1927
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 3: you just shun them and you move on and you

1928
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: go to the people that like you and you answer

1929
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 3: their question. So I'm not sure I'm like it where

1930
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 3: journalism is going from.

1931
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Speaker 2: Here on out. Well, I mean, you know, Dion has

1932
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: has kind of been a little combative with the media

1933
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 2: at different times since he got to Colorado. Before that

1934
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 2: you really hear all that much in terms of like

1935
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 2: him as a coach. At least at Jackson State and

1936
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 2: things like that, you didn't hear about it. But at

1937
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 2: Colorado he's kind of sparred with the media, and he's

1938
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 2: kind of at Tom's been on their side, and that

1939
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Tom's been way away from them depending on the topic

1940
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: at hand. Of course, maybe he's not as big a

1941
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: fan of the media now considering what should doors last

1942
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: couple of months has been right, right, I think it

1943
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 2: might be a little salty after the draft process and

1944
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 2: the way he was talked about that weekend and all

1945
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 2: of those things. I can't imagine that would have that

1946
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 2: would have upset me as a father.

1947
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Speaker 3: I'm wondering how many more years he has left the

1948
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 3: Colorado I guess he was going to dress his health

1949
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 3: issues to his team before he dressed the rest, but

1950
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 3: I still have not seen anything about about that. I'm

1951
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 3: wondering how many more years he has left before he's like,

1952
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 3: you know what, I just can't continue with this with

1953
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 3: all all the health issues out there. Maybe which is

1954
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 3: the reason why he didn't go to an NFL job,

1955
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: because he does take a lot of time away from

1956
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 3: the team.

1957
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean I think that's a fair question

1958
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: about his health. And I think that if they have

1959
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: a if they have a rough year and he is

1960
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 2: dealing with health issues his coming year, that that end

1961
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 2: may come soon. Could that not to say if they succeed,

1962
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 2: he'll stay. Understand that, like if there's if they're if

1963
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 2: they're still having If it's a lot more fun when

1964
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 2: you're winning, that can be better for you from a

1965
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,959
Speaker 2: psychological standpoint. A lot of times you're dealing with health issues.

1966
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 2: It's kind of whether or not you can be optimistic

1967
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 2: in those moments or whether or not you are still

1968
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 2: feeling positive.

1969
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 3: How can they win though?

1970
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 2: Were they getting the dress matters?

1971
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 3: Were they getting the money though they got you during

1972
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter without having the pone, you have big money

1973
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 3: out there. Where are they getting the money for all

1974
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:03,560
Speaker 3: these athletes?

1975
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean those are questions that you know,

1976
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 2: the local media is gonna have to answer more than

1977
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 2: anything else because they do the collective structure and all

1978
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 2: of those things. But to play in this in this

1979
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 2: age of college football, you got to pay. It is

1980
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 2: paid to play and pay to win at this point

1981
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 2: in time. And so we're going to see. But I

1982
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 2: think Texas Tech, because of the money that they have

1983
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 2: committed here, like they got to win, right Like if

1984
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: they don't, boy, is that going to look poor? I

1985
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 2: mean that's not only is gonna look like wasted money,

1986
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 2: it's good. I mean if you're a coach and you

1987
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 2: don't win with that you're probably out of a job.

1988
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 3: We asked them how good they were going to be.

1989
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, Derek Shelby, the agent, he said, not

1990
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 3: only are they going to make the playoffs, they're a

1991
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 3: top four team in the playoffs. They have eleven excuse me,

1992
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: twenty one starters returning out of the twenty two. Because

1993
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 3: I looked that up, I'm like, how good is this

1994
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 3: team really going to bed? Last year?

1995
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 2: Did you see?

1996
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 3: No, I don't know off the top of my head,

1997
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 3: to be honest, I don't know the top Yeah.

1998
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 2: But I didn't know if you had looked at it

1999
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 2: last week. I didn't look at it either. I didn't

2000
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 2: think about it until you just mentioned that. But I

2001
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 2: would be curious to know, you know, at this point

2002
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 2: what that would actually look like, like, what what was

2003
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 2: that team last year compared to what they're doing now?

2004
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 2: You talk about who they brought back a lot, a

2005
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 2: lot of that will tell you, you know, based on

2006
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 2: how they actually finished last year, whether or not that matters, right,

2007
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't recall them being that bit. Okay, so they

2008
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 2: were it's like they were eight and five, it's six

2009
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 2: and three in conference. Last year they were like middle

2010
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 2: of the road. They were tied for second in the

2011
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 2: conference in terms of record, but they finished seventh overall

2012
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: in the rank.

2013
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 3: He made it sound like they were going to be

2014
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 3: stacked this year, and.

2015
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 2: From a talent standpoint, looks like they are. Question is

2016
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 2: does that talent all work well together and do they

2017
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 2: have a stat that's going to help them continue to develop.

2018
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 2: I mean that A and M team that Jimbo had

2019
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: had a ton of talent on had Walter Nolan on it,

2020
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 2: and great receivers and all this, but it just didn't

2021
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: work out. And sometimes it doesn't sometimes the talent. Sometimes

2022
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 2: cal Perry was able to win big in Kentucky and

2023
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,560
Speaker 2: sometimes he wasn't. So football is a different sport than basketball.

2024
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 2: But you get the points. So you look at it

2025
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 2: from that standpoint, you just say, it just depends on

2026
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 2: how all that talent meshes. But I can tell you

2027
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 2: if it doesn't mesh, it's going to fall on the

2028
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 2: coach before it falls on the players.

2029
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 3: I wonder if the favorites are one of the favorites

2030
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 3: to go and win the Big Twelve this year. You

2031
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 3: would think they are, but I don't know.

2032
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 2: They have to be. They have to be, Like I mean,

2033
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 2: maybe they aren't the fit. But if they're not, they

2034
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: I'll have to maybe we need to see that or

2035
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 2: send out a bat signal. So send out a Bernie signal,

2036
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 2: because he's probably listening because he's preparing for his show.

2037
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 2: If he's listening, What are the odds on top second

2038
01:37:58,720 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 2: winning the Big Twelve?

2039
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 3: I have and says you're the twenty twenty five Big

2040
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,839
Speaker 3: Twelve Football Championship. Oh that's the championship. Yeah, it's considered

2041
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 3: wide open. Kansas State, Arizona State, Baylor, Texas Tech, and

2042
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 3: Utah all tied for the best odds at plus six hundred,

2043
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 3: So they're all six to one according to Yahoo Sports.

2044
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: And all these teams have returning starting quarterbacks from twenty

2045
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 3: twenty four.

2046
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 2: So Kissett, Texas Tech was one of those.

2047
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, they were one of them, So.

2048
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so they're in the mix then, oh yeah, yeah,

2049
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 2: at least how they're how they're being perceived now, I'm

2050
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 2: just curious what that's going to look like. I wonder

2051
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: how much bigger this story can get if they go

2052
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 2: out and start drubbing people in the first half of

2053
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 2: the season. How much are we going to hear about

2054
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 2: this topic and how it's changing the face of college football,

2055
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,480
Speaker 2: even more so because it's not the Ohio State, the Alabama,

2056
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 2: even the USC or or somebody like that. It's it's

2057
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 2: a Texas Tech team that we haven't really thought about

2058
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 2: in ages that that changes the game, have thought about

2059
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 2: and how much.

2060
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 3: Love are they going to get in the polls? That's

2061
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 3: going to be the question, you know, are they Are

2062
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 3: they going to shoot right up or are going to

2063
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: people try to keep them down because of what's going on.

2064
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 3: I get the feeling they're going to you know, it

2065
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 3: comes in what's week six, week seven the polls, So

2066
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 3: I get a feeling they'll do quite well among their peers.

2067
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think they'll do I don't.

2068
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Think you would dog them out now. I think at

2069
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 2: this point, because of the way college football is, I

2070
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 2: think you have to kind of rate it differently than

2071
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 2: you have before. People are gonna have to adjust their

2072
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 2: perspectives before the season. And again I've already told you

2073
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 2: I hate preseason rankings. I wish they were not done

2074
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 2: because I think that they create artificial hurdles for teams

2075
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: that are lower that they have to start from the

2076
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 2: beginning of a perception, but I think some of that

2077
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 2: will change. I agree with you. I feel like they

2078
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 2: probably will get the benefit of the doubt because they

2079
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 2: have the talent. It's not like Rutgers coming out of nowhere.

2080
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 2: It's not like one of the teams last year, like

2081
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 2: Indiana for example, right they did. They're not gonna have

2082
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 2: to prove it because people already buy it. A team

2083
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 2: that hasn't had to prove it in a while, at

2084
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 2: least in the AFC is the Kansas City Chiefs. We're

2085
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 2: not going to talk about the Chiefs in terms of

2086
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: what they're going to do in the league this year.

2087
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 2: We are going to talk about what their star had

2088
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: to say about an extended NFL schedule. That plus some

2089
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,759
Speaker 2: All Star game talk we'll do a little How about

2090
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 2: Andre Dawson wanting to change from the Expos to the Cubs.

2091
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 2: We'll talk some of that as well. Stick around, he's

2092
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,679
Speaker 2: already spanning of Jason Martin. This is Fox Sports Radio.

2093
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,479
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2094
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,880
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01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:54,519
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01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,000
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2104
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: after we get off the air. Well, the Eagles are,

2105
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 2: You're defending champions. They beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

2106
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about the season yet. We

2107
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 2: got plenty of time before the season starts to get

2108
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:29,759
Speaker 2: to that, Arnie. But Patrick Mahomes had some thoughts about

2109
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 2: eighteen games, which is sort of the next step in

2110
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 2: the line. We can see this coming that we've already

2111
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: kind of read these tea leaves and we've seen this

2112
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 2: set now for a couple of years. And Hal's not

2113
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:43,839
Speaker 2: a big fan of it, right Arnt.

2114
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 3: No, He's doesn't want the eighteen games, but it's inevitable.

2115
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 3: It's the next step. It's what's going to happen. It

2116
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 3: means too much money for the NFL. You know, Jason

2117
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 3: is going to come to the point now we talk

2118
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,759
Speaker 3: about load management. In the NBA, there'll be a slight

2119
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,879
Speaker 3: load management. I can't say I blame that. In the NFL,

2120
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 3: a quarterback is probably going to have to play maybe

2121
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 3: sixteen games as a starter, and then you're gonna have

2122
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 3: to get a backup quarterback to start two games if

2123
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 3: it goes to eighteen a quarterback that if you have

2124
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 3: like a Sunday game and you got to play on

2125
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 3: the next Thursday or something where it's lessing a week

2126
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 3: or listening ideal or there's so much travel, or maybe

2127
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 3: it's a team you think you can be with the

2128
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 3: backup just to give your starter ar rest. But the

2129
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 3: days of a starter gonna go seventeen or even eighteen games, now,

2130
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna go by the wayside. You're gonna

2131
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 3: see more quarterbacks that won't play in seventeen games. You're

2132
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 3: gonna need a backup there to get through one or

2133
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 3: two games in the NFL season.

2134
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's true. I mean, we've

2135
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 2: already seen the injury bug. There's always gonna be three

2136
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:55,480
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks that can drop that you just you can't replace.

2137
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, just like fantasy team need two quarterbacks.

2138
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but usually backups are not are not like big

2139
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 3: names and they're just there to knop a ross. Respond,

2140
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna need the backup to win one or two games, now,

2141
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 3: is what's gonna happen?

2142
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that. I think there's there's

2143
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: a lot to that. The quote like, how does that

2144
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 2: change your strategy even in the draft, right right? Trying

2145
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 2: to find somebody young? But yeah, but you find somebody

2146
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 2: young that's talented as well, and it's not. And look,

2147
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I saw the story. I'm sure you did too. Kirk

2148
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 2: Cousins wasn't wasn't happy with the way that the Falcons

2149
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 2: communicated to him about Penix and all this. He's kind

2150
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 2: of not been happy about anything that doesn't go his

2151
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 2: way the same way in Minnesota. It's just it's been

2152
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 2: that way in his career. He doesn't he doesn't like.

2153
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 2: But but guys are going to have to get used

2154
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 2: to that. I think it's my point that to to

2155
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 2: your argument, the more games you play, the more people

2156
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 2: are gonna get injured. The jury rate is one hundred

2157
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 2: percent at some point in time, right, So, uh, going

2158
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 2: into and expecting that it's going to be a thing.

2159
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 3: This could work out. Imagine if you're playing sixteen games,

2160
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 3: and you ask a rookie or a second year quarterback

2161
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 3: to play one or two games a year until he

2162
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 3: starts getting the hang of it, starts feeling good. Doesn't

2163
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 3: have to play eight, ten, fifteen, just one or two

2164
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 3: a year is a backup against probably a less superior team,

2165
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:22,919
Speaker 3: just to get his reps in. I think more quarterbacks

2166
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 3: would like to order that way instead of just being

2167
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 3: thrown to the fire, or at least teams would probably

2168
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 3: like it that way. I'm not so sure about the players,

2169
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,879
Speaker 3: but it would It would probably be better at learning

2170
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 3: experience than just throwing him out there with a crappy

2171
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 3: team and going one in fifteen or something to that effect.

2172
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you talk about the other thing with

2173
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: the backup. I think you find the right opponent. And

2174
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 2: I know that this sounds crazy because it's the NFL,

2175
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: but you find the right opponent and you get a lead,

2176
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 2: you pull that guy. Yeah, yeah, you pull the starter

2177
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 2: a few times. I don't want to use the term

2178
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 2: load management, but I mean you do something where you

2179
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 2: protect us, like when you feel like you've got it

2180
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 2: in hand, and if you have to pull the guy

2181
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 2: back off the bench and putting back in. I mean,

2182
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some strategy there. But if you're going

2183
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 2: to add more games, then this is a sport where

2184
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 2: the chances that you get through a season unscathed with

2185
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 2: a star player diminished. But you talk about just at

2186
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: the quarterback. I mean, that's gonna be true everywhere, right right,

2187
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 2: more depth, but you don't, Yeah, go ahead.

2188
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 3: The Thursday game after a Sunday, that's when you go

2189
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 3: ahead and replace the quarterback. I believe if it's a court,

2190
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 3: if it's a team that you can beat on four

2191
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 3: days rest, that's impossible. It's not impossible. But that's got

2192
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 3: to hurt. Your muscles have got to be sore of

2193
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 3: going into that Thursday game.

2194
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I don't know.

2195
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 2: We we kind of do want more football. That's the thing,

2196
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 2: Like you don't want to see guys get hurt. But

2197
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 2: you also really like the NFL, and it feels like

2198
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 2: the season just goes away pretty fast.

2199
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 3: Well, there'll be too there'll be too by except it

2200
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 3: goes to an eighteen game schedule. I think that's what

2201
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 3: they'll do is give them. They have to give them

2202
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 3: two by weeks. I think that's what the NFL Players

2203
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 3: Association would want, So that should help them a little bit,

2204
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 3: not a lot, but a little bit there in that situation.

2205
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably true. So from there, I

2206
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: don't know how you segue to this, but we haven't

2207
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 2: talked to any baseball and because it's All Star weekend,

2208
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 2: we're going to try out the basically the terminator. We're

2209
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 2: going to try out rising machines here in terms of

2210
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 2: balls and strikes any All Star game. How are we

2211
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 2: feeling about that?

2212
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 3: I like it just as a tryout, especially it's the

2213
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 3: All Star Games, so you know, people are not going

2214
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 3: to be that upset about it. If it works good,

2215
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm ready to go to implement it in the regular season.

2216
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 3: I think it's a you know, I think it's about

2217
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 3: time that we got the calls right. That's the only

2218
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 3: thing that really hurts spaceballs, the ball and strike call,

2219
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 3: because you can't look back at it, you can't test it,

2220
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 3: you can't you know, say hey, I want to overlook that.

2221
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 3: Let's look at that one again now. If you have

2222
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 3: a computer calling it, I'm fine with it, because you know,

2223
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 3: it's tough calling balls and strikes, especially with the curves

2224
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 3: and the way the movement on the on the baseball

2225
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 3: is and every you know, umpires a different strike zone.

2226
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 3: So I think it's about time we kept up with

2227
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 3: the times and decided to do this with the balls

2228
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 3: and the strikes.

2229
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 2: Well, that actually surprises me. Aren't he really kind of

2230
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 2: expected you to go to you? I don't know. I mean,

2231
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 2: you're like a thousand years old.

2232
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you want to get it right. I hate

2233
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 3: when the umpires, you know, get it wrong, or an

2234
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 3: umpire has his own strike zone and he's calling that

2235
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 3: low strike below the knee over and over again, and

2236
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 3: you're like, what's going on here, buddy? Now, everybody's got

2237
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 3: to make an adjustment. The hitters got to adjust. They're

2238
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 3: swinging at low pitches. It it affects the whole game

2239
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 3: so terribly. I think it's better off to just go

2240
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 3: ahead and have that strike zone, and it's easier for

2241
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 3: us at home, I believe. I think it's great when

2242
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 3: we can say, Okay, that's a ball, that's a strike,

2243
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 3: no doubt about it, you know.

2244
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean I agree with you. I just

2245
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that you were going to eliminate the humans

2246
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 2: in favor of the computers. That just that caught me

2247
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 2: a let's just say that caught me a bit off guard.

2248
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how you gonna tell, you know,

2249
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 3: the catcher that strike three or that's ball three and

2250
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 3: somebody's stealing a base and you're gonna throw it down,

2251
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 3: and how that's going to work. So it'll be interesting

2252
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 3: to see how they work that out.

2253
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:27,719
Speaker 2: So let's bring Steve to Sega in for the final

2254
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 2: time and get an update. And I want to ask

2255
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 2: Steve if he is surprised that Arnie would actually favor

2256
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,719
Speaker 2: the machines over human beings.

2257
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 3: I think the Sega you favorite machines calling balls and strikes.

2258
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just it's a misnomer when some people call

2259
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 7: it robot umpires. The home plate umpire is still calling

2260
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 7: every ball and strike and administrating the game and calling

2261
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,799
Speaker 7: safe out at the plate. It's just the egregious things

2262
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 7: can be corrected, and we saw in spring training they

2263
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 7: can be corrected pretty quickly. It's a far shorter pause

2264
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 7: for the game than the current video challenge system for

2265
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 7: outer safe at second or whether it was a home

2266
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 7: run or not.

2267
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 2: Things like that.

2268
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 7: I can't wait to see it for use in the

2269
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 7: All Star game, like, we just saw it in spring

2270
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 7: training and it's been in the minors as well.

2271
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 3: So it's not every pitch, is that what you're saying.

2272
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 7: No, it's you can just challenge, and not from the bench,

2273
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 7: not the manager, just the batter or catcher or of

2274
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 7: course the pitcher can challenge. They're the only ones involved.

2275
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 7: Your first baseman can't start yelling. I thought the management

2276
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 7: he cannot.

2277
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 3: I thought the new wave of the future would be

2278
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 3: them doing it for every pitch. You know, that would

2279
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 3: be the wave. That's the new thing.

2280
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 7: No, and if you're right, apparently you keep your challenge

2281
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 7: as well, and it gets a couple of challenges each side.

2282
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 7: It's overdue in my opinion seeing this year yet again

2283
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 7: some of the ball and strike calls. As for the

2284
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 7: basketball update, we did have Caleb Loves He's on fire

2285
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 7: at the NBA Summer League tonight. In the late game

2286
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 7: for Portland, he had eighteen points. He was seven of

2287
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 7: twenty one shooting. Portland, for what it's worth, lost ninety

2288
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 7: six eighty six to Memphis twenty three points for Jalen Wells. Earlier,

2289
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 7: Spurs beat the Mavericks seventy six sixty nine, but Cooper

2290
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,600
Speaker 7: Flag of Dallas had thirty one points out of the

2291
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 7: sixty nine. Lakers beat New Orleans Brownie James fourteen points,

2292
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 7: three assists, four turnovers, two WNBA games. Chicago got Angel

2293
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 7: Reese's nineteen points eleven rebounds in a win over Minnesota,

2294
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 7: which had been eighteen and three. Las Vegas edge Golden

2295
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 7: State Asia Wilson thirty four points. In MLS action, Miami

2296
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 7: got two goals from Lionel Messi in a two to

2297
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 7: one win against Nashville. Minnesota beat San Jose four to one.

2298
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 7: Sunday on FS one, the Women's Euros continue with England

2299
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,759
Speaker 7: against Wales. Today, Sweden won four to one over Germany.

2300
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 7: Each team had been two to zero in the tournament

2301
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,799
Speaker 7: so far. The FIFA Club World Cup Final is Sunday

2302
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 7: in New Jersey, Chelsea against Paris Saint Jermont. This is

2303
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 7: thirty two team tourney that's ending tomorrow, which the US

2304
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 7: has hosted. Wimbledon Men's final on Sunday, Number one Yanick

2305
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 7: Center against number two Carlos Alcarez, who's won twenty four straight.

2306
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 7: The women's final was over in less than an hour

2307
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 7: today six love six love for Egos Fiantek, who's six

2308
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 7: to zero in major finals. She beat American Amanda and Asamova.

2309
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 7: Pato Award took today's Indy Car event Indy Cars at

2310
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:18,719
Speaker 7: Iowa on Fox TV with Saturday and Sunday races this weekend.

2311
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 7: Rory McElroy moved into a tie for first at the

2312
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 7: Scottish Open. Dustin Johnson his four shots behind Taylor Gooch.

2313
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 7: His live golf is in Spain this weekend. The celebrity

2314
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 7: golf event is going on at Lake Tahoe. Soccer's Taylor

2315
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,799
Speaker 7: Twelveman tied for the lead. By the way, Aaron Rodgers

2316
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 7: tied for twelfth XQB, Derek Carr eighteenth place, Jerry Rice

2317
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 7: twenty third. Charles Barkley was believing or not in the

2318
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 7: top twenty five after the first of the three rounds

2319
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,719
Speaker 7: he got. He is now tied for sixty first place

2320
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 7: with Vince Carter.

2321
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 3: There you go.

2322
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 7: Grant Hill tied for eighty sixth with Jason Kelsey, Rich

2323
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 7: Eyesen in eighty ninth place in Tahoe.

2324
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 3: Who's in lackin.

2325
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 7: Somebody who works for the network that is carrying the

2326
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 7: golf Okay, So that was the way that got an

2327
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 7: entry I'm pretty certain to say the Angels defeated Arizona

2328
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,639
Speaker 7: eight to five, make that ten to five. Mike Trout

2329
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 7: a home run and four RBIs. It was the A's

2330
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,799
Speaker 7: four to three over Toronto Brent Rooker homer, three RBIs.

2331
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 7: The Toronto Blue Jays have been hot. They are still

2332
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 7: first in the AL, still two games over the Yankees,

2333
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 7: who lost at home today. Cubs five to two over

2334
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 7: the Yanks. Matthew Boyd eight scoreless innings got the win.

2335
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 7: He's ten and three. This was a five to nothing

2336
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 7: lead in the ninth Aaron Judge with career homer number

2337
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 7: three point fifty, his thirty fifth this year. Judge had

2338
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 7: three hits. The rest of the Yankees were three for

2339
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 7: twenty eight. Combined the loss to Max Freed, who had

2340
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 7: been eleven and two. He went three innings, three earned run,

2341
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 7: seventy three pitches in the three innings. So the Cubs

2342
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 7: are first in the NL Central, still one game over

2343
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 7: the Brewers, who won their six straight six' five Over

2344
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 7: washington thanks to three. Runs bottom of the Ninth seattle

2345
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 7: fifteen to seven winners At, Detroit minnesota twelve four or Over,

2346
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 7: pittsburgh which is lost state Straight Byron buxton of The

2347
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 7: twins hit for the cycle and went five for. Five

2348
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 7: the starting pitchers For Tuesday's All Star, Game Detroit's Trek

2349
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 7: scouble And Paul skeans of The pirates wins For. Cincinnati

2350
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 7: The mets are in first. Place they Won philly. Loss

2351
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 7: boston won it's ninth in a. Row houston won in

2352
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 7: eleven Innings atlanta with a run in the ninth one

2353
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 7: At Saint louis seven to, six and The dodgers Beat

2354
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 7: San francisco two to one to end a seven game losing.

2355
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 7: Streak Tanner scott to save The giants, offense went three

2356
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 7: for twenty. Nine Shoeo toddi was the starting, pitcher three scoreless,

2357
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 7: innings four. Strikeouts back to.

2358
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: You thank, You, steve appreciate. It have a good. EVENING

2359
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 2: i would, say have a Good. Sunday BUT i know

2360
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 2: who you're gonna be, with so you see how that.

2361
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:46,879
Speaker 2: GOES i don't Think steve's gonna be winning the. Lottery

2362
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 2: speaking of the, Lottery, arnie you sent me this. Story

2363
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna talking about this. STORY i would rather not

2364
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 2: win the. LOTTERY i think if you have any skeletons

2365
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 2: in the. Closet don't win the. Lottery they're going to find.

2366
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 2: You all of them are going to find. You we'll

2367
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 2: talk about that when we come. Back you will not

2368
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 2: want to miss. That plus pretty big retirement in THE,

2369
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 2: nfl ALTHOUGH i did not know he was still active

2370
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 2: in The welcome. Back He's Arny Spanning Jason. Martin this

2371
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 2: Is Fox Sports. Radio we're live in The Fox Sports radio.

2372
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 2: Studios all, Right, arnie you sent me. THIS i looked at,

2373
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 2: IT i read. IT i was baffled by. It, yeah almost.

2374
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,559
Speaker 2: Entirely we never even got To Andre dawson say something

2375
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 2: About Andre dawson real fast, First So i'm not going

2376
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 2: to do the expots saying he wants to actually change

2377
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 2: to The. Cubs he you know.

2378
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 3: Back AND i didn't know. Why back in two thousand and,

2379
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 3: one when you got inducted to The hall Of fame

2380
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 3: as a, player as a, player you got to pick

2381
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 3: what cap you. Wanted after, that it was up To

2382
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 3: Major League baseball to decide for you what cap you.

2383
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 3: Wanted that started because The Tampa Bay, Rays we're going

2384
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 3: to Pay Wade boggs to put out A tampa ad

2385
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 3: on instead of A Red. Sox he's in as A

2386
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 3: Red sox or you, know some people thought he should

2387
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 3: be A. Yankee Andre dawson never got to make that. Decision,

2388
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 3: now he did play ten years for The, expos only

2389
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 3: five years for The, Cubs So Major League baseball made

2390
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 3: the right decision by putting him in An expo. Cap

2391
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 3: but he is The hall Of. Famer it should be

2392
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 3: up to the. Player if he wants to go down

2393
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 3: as A, cubs so be. It i'm for. Him i'm

2394
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 3: okay to put it as A. Cub but his best

2395
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 3: numbers were as An. Expo there was no doubt about.

2396
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 2: That, yeah which weird is because my, AGE i remember

2397
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 2: more as A. Cub, oh he had the national coverage

2398
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 2: there with, Him Ryan, Samberg Mark race and so, Like

2399
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 2: i'm cool with it just because WHEN i Think Andre,

2400
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 2: DAWSON i immediately think. Pubs BUT i know you're. Right, yeah,

2401
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 2: historically like The expos and what he did there was

2402
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: was more of his. Career. RIGHT i will also say,

2403
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 2: this Maybe i'm, popular BUT i was a huge fan

2404
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 2: of That expos. Cap, yeah that was a big fan

2405
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 2: of that. THING i miss. IT i miss it a,

2406
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 2: lot Like clubs is a. Classic i'm not saying it's.

2407
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 3: Not, YEAH i still see it up here from time

2408
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 3: to time because you, know it's not. Far and if

2409
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 3: they ever do get a baseball team up, there it'd

2410
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how many people will cross the

2411
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 3: border and go up. There but you're, RIGHT i always

2412
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 3: thought of him as an, expo BUT i do remember

2413
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 3: as a Cup but, yeah he's spent a lot more,

2414
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 3: years double the years With. Montreal, yeah well do you he?

2415
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 2: Said he, said some people are going to be, upset

2416
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 2: but he doesn't. Care, yeah he's good for, him. Exactly

2417
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 2: glad he's gonna make the decision he feels like he

2418
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 2: needs to. Make all, Right so a, Waitress, yeah this

2419
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 2: is a great. Story got tipped a lottery. Ticket, yes

2420
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 2: we've seen that before and won ten million. Dollars, right and.

2421
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 3: We've seen that. Before also we've seen.

2422
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: Them good for her man ten million. Dollars, YEAH i

2423
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 2: mean a lot of times you might get, tipped you win,

2424
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 2: nothing maybe you win two, bucks and then it's kind

2425
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: of like an old school tip or something like. That,

2426
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: right she wants too million. Dollars so everybody's going to

2427
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 2: be really happy about, THIS i would imagine in her.

2428
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 3: Life, yeah not real by her co. Workers, yeah well

2429
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 3: that first of, all, yeah sued by her co. Workers

2430
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 3: how many co workers were, there so it could be

2431
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 3: probably like around nine or, Ten so now ten of

2432
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 3: them all want a part of the pie, there so that.

2433
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 2: Starts though you're supposed to put your tips in the

2434
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 2: tips together and all that.

2435
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, exactly SO i thought that.

2436
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 2: Good and good luck trying. That sued by the guy

2437
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 2: who gave her the, ticket right, now you're that's on you.

2438
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 2: Man you could have given her a five dollar bill

2439
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 2: and kept a lottery.

2440
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 3: Ticket, YEAH i disagree when you tip somebody a lottery

2441
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 3: ticket and they, win if you're the person that gets

2442
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 3: the ticket and the guy comes, back or you call

2443
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 3: them up and you, say LOOK i won ten million,

2444
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 3: dollars let's split it five million, each and you know

2445
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 3: that's only the honorable thing to, do and that that's

2446
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 3: that's the good karma thing to. Do Is and then

2447
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 3: if you gave each Coworker tanner twenty thousand dollars and

2448
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 3: there was ten of, them that's what a two hundred,

2449
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 3: thousand then shut them. Up they wouldn't even sue. You

2450
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 3: they take the money and forget about a. Lawsuit that's

2451
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do when it's all. Said, No

2452
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 3: but it got, worse didn't.

2453
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 2: It, Jason if you're the, way if you're the, waitress

2454
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 2: how much are you gonna how much would you be offering.

2455
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 3: To the co workers or to the, guy the person.

2456
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 2: Who gave you the ticket half the first they gave

2457
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 2: you the ticket.

2458
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 3: Half, Yeah so after BECAUSE i know we are were

2459
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 3: sure that's just part of the. Story, Yeah because after,

2460
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 3: that the ex husband kidnapped her and she shot him

2461
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 3: in the chest and. Escaped so she was doing jail.

2462
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:46,919
Speaker 3: Time and while she was doing jail, time THE irs,

2463
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 3: said wait a, minute wait a, minute what about. Us

2464
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 3: we were going to charge you because we wanted want

2465
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 3: you to pay your taxes on that lottery. Winning so

2466
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 3: four different groups of people came after her after winning the.

2467
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 3: Lottery so there you.

2468
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 2: Go, well the third group of, people the third person

2469
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 2: was an ex husband who kidnapped.

2470
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 3: Her, yeah and.

2471
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 2: Then THE I R s came, last because of course they,

2472
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 2: do like the grim reaper that they, are they came.

2473
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 2: Last so no good deed goes. Unpunished what you sent,

2474
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 2: me that's pretty much. Accurate what a ridiculous. Story that

2475
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 2: is absolutely. Nuts Bernie frido might not even have a

2476
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 2: better story than, that But i'm gonna tune in to find,

2477
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 2: out all, right it's always, Fun, buddy, later my.

2478
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 3: Friend thank, you thank, you appreciate.

2479
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: You, yeah