WEBVTT - The Election Scapegoat: Black Men with Jumanne Williams 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:00.960 I'm Tamika D. 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:03.320 Mallory and it shit Boy my son in general. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.720 We are your host of TMI. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.160 Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:15.880 And Inspiration, New Energy. What's up, my son, Lennon, How 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:16.680 you doing today? 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:18.799 I am blessing Holly favored Tmika D. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:19.160 Malory. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:20.800 How You'm doing fine? 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.560 Celebrating my granddaughter's second birthday, which is really they grows 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:32.519 so fast. Yeah, she's definitely growing fast. She's growing fast, 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:38.120 and she has taken on the personality of a lot 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.920 of us. I can't just say her parents because I 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.960 can see myself as well. She really does not like 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.080 to be touched. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.320 Or talked to too much, and. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.080 I can say that I'm kinda like that, souh. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.600 She's not really anti social. 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.960 She's fine when she gets calm and she's good. She'll 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.160 move all around, she'll talk, she'll sing, she dance. She 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.080 just doesn't want you to put your physical hands on her. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:05.840 And she doesn't want. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:11.119 Already a German, she know you got germs. She learns 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:11.880 from you already. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.160 She just doesn't want you to do too much. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.240 That's it, like she wants everything to be demir demure 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.280 already at her little bitty age she's like, but then again, 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:23.959 she's not that demure because she knows how to get 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.560 up on this stuff and things. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.920 She's just different. She's different. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.560 She has many different personalities because I think all of 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.319 us we have different things going on. She could be 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.640 very jovial and sweet and happy and laughing and whatnot. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.360 But if you start touching her, she's like, no, that's 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.680 not I'm not into that. So it's interesting to watch 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.360 her grow up. But I will say that it's also 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:50.360 just kind of interesting, I feel like for me as 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:55.760 a parent who well, first of all, one other than Blair. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.919 Turning to the other thing that happened in my life. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.520 In the last few days, I had a conversation with 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:06.240 the legal department of my publishing company for my new book, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:11.440 and the you know a woman was like, listen, this 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:12.359 book is amazing. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.000 I read it. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.520 It's the second or maybe the third person from the 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:21.840 publishing company who really doesn't have like a stake in 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:23.000 the game. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.040 Like they don't. It's up to you. This is your book. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.600 This is what you want to say, obviously, between yourself 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:32.120 and whatever your you know, whoever your support team, management, 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:38.799 you know, your your particular publishing brand like Black Privilege 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.440 Publishing is my particular publishing publishing company. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.120 I mean, there's another word for it. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.480 Back It escapes me at this moment, but you know, 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.600 I'm you know, if long as he Charlotte Magne is 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.840 happy with the content and the editor obviously who is there, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:00.280 I'll shout out to Nick to monitor what is is 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:01.960 in the content that's in there. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.839 As long as they are okay with it. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.680 The legal team's responsibility is to look at it to 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.000 make sure that there's no reason why you're going to 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.760 get in trouble, right, And so, you know, when I 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.760 was speaking to her today and she's like, listen, the 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.959 last couple of days excuse me, and she was like, oh, 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.680 you know, the book is really really good. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.799 And a few other people said. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:26.280 The same thing that have responsibilities like printing, like they 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.079 don't have anything to really do with it, but they 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:29.919 just went through it because they saw it and they 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.840 read it. And she asked me, hey, you know, is 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.680 everybody in your life okay with the things that you're 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.000 saying in this book? And as she was saying that 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.160 to me, I was just thinking about like all the 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:48.080 different personalities and the stories, and I can see where 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.560 my granddaughter picks up so much from us over the years, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.040 over time, my sister. My attitude, you know, sharing is 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.800 very particular, and you can already you see that Blair 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.040 is going in that direction. And one of the other 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.520 things in the book that kind of like, you know, 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.200 I just I write a lot about the challenges that 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.920 I face with being a young mother, the things that 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.880 I wish I could go back and do, so now 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.640 here I am getting an opportunity to try to make 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.640 right on some of the things that I didn't know 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.520 and didn't do properly back in the other days twenty 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.159 five years ago. And I look at her and I'm 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:32.880 just like, wow, I'm actually able to monitor like the seconds, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.240 which is very different from when you're raising a kid 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.800 and you're twenty something years old yourself. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.359 You don't you know, You're. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.279 Trying to take on chunks of life at a time, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.360 like gotta figure out where I'm gonna work, Gotta figure 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.080 out where I'm gonna live, got to figure out all 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.000 of that. And now I'm not in that situation, so 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.320 I'm actually able to sit there and look at her 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.880 little bitty details, her little bitty self in the seconds 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:59.120 and it's just very very it's very interesting. I'll just 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.360 say that. But you know, like I said, the lawyers, like. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:03.640 Is everybody okay with this? 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.400 Because she's like when you rode in here and some 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.520 stuff about your mom and your relationship with her, I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.840 my mother stands by everything she said, everything she did. 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.799 And my granddaughter seems like she's gonna be a little 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.839 bit like, oh Mama, no. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.440 I mean that sounds interesting because I be feeling the 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.960 same way, Like when I talk to my grandson and 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.680 I just look at him. You just able to You 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.000 see things from a different lens than when you're just 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.159 a young parent and you just raising a kid and 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.320 this and that. Now you have a lot more experience, right, 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.880 so you see certain things, you see yourself, you see them, 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.240 you see certain personalities, you know, you see certain things 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.839 that you need to God, you need to get in 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.240 front of, you know. So it's a way different perspective. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:52.120 Yeah, it's very different, it's true. And you're more mature exactly. 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:53.800 You see things you need to get in front of, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.440 you do. And so I'm not upset with her for 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.719 not wanting people to touch her. I hope she maintains 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.320 that for a real long time. But the way in 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.160 which she responds about it, we have to figure out 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.240 how to let her know, like you don't just go 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.159 slap the person over the head or knock their hand off. 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.600 You kind of have to learn how to be able 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.599 to articulate. She's only two. I get it, But now 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.039 that I'm older, I realize only two is not My 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.040 grandmother was on it at only two, right, so at 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:24.600 only two? 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.160 Remember two? I don't remember too well. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.360 It's not that I remember when I was too but 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.760 I remember how she dealt with all the two year 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.320 olds coming. And I specifically know how my aunts, who 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.360 were like my grandmother's because they're older, old much older women, 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.840 how even with my son at two years old, they 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.040 were like, uh uh, we don't do this, We don't 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.440 do that. He needs to learn how to sit down 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.119 like actually, and that was a thing that they really 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.040 worked on. And I will always say, I would you 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.200 know how you get mad at your family's house and leave. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.279 I packed my son up and be like we're not 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.760 staying over here with all of this attitude, Like he 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.680 can't run around. He runs around like that's what he does. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.520 He's a boy. But now I understand discipline starts at 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.800 a whole different place and if you don't do it, 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.960 then it just gets worse and worse and worse over time. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.920 So you know. But anyway, she's only two. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.800 She's fine, she's cute, she's sweet as has so sweet. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.520 But I just know I'm maturing. It's not even about 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.680 her in the way in which I see life. So 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.400 that's what I was doing. I was doing my book, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.840 Final Final, Final, book, copyright edits looking over what they 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.840 suggest where they made changes, if they made any at all, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.160 which is not many. They just helped me to, you know, 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.280 make sure I'm crystallizing my points and you know, and 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.960 things like that. But that's what I'm doing, is doing 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.440 that and also enjoying the fact that my granddaughter's in 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:44.920 New York. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.680 Shout out to that, and that's love, you know me. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.320 I'm a soccer dad. So both both of my sons 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.440 played in the tournament this weekend and it was like 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.280 really intense games. We've almost got in fights at both 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.239 of the games, but you know, and they went to 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.920 Cameron went to the championship and lost in overtime pretty much, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.800 so they do they have penalty they have penalty kicks. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.560 So what they do is they you gotta it's one 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.080 person faces the goalie and he just kicks it, and 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.200 then they do it with all five players and whoever 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.480 has the most wins at the end of the game. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.960 So they lost by one kick, you know, So it 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.120 was it was a really really good game. You know, 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.400 they was a little upset, but they came in second place, 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:32.360 you know, but I watched them just wheel theirselves into 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.040 you know, playing that hard. It was down like they 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:36.760 was down by one zip, but then they tied it 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.000 up and they was down to one and then they 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.920 tied it up and then they went to overtime. So 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.400 they was they was fighting the whole the whole way, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.720 and the goalie of the other team really like he 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.880 made an amazing save for them to win by at 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.680 one point, because one they go our goalie, you know, 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.600 like he's damning professional, and he kicked the ball and 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.240 it almost went in and he goalie tapped it and 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.440 it hit like the top, but it didn't go into 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.120 the net. So they won by that really pretty much, 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.200 that one goal. So it was it was dope. And 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.120 then Keston just he was just having a good weekend. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.720 You know, he played with two different teams this weekend 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.760 and ended up coming in second with one of the teams. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.240 So you got you have you have an eventful time. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.720 You know, people who are in youth sports almost like this. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:24.400 Is like grown. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:25.320 Oh no, it's a thing. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.640 It's grown people. I hear. It's very expensive. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.000 It's very expensive. Yes, very expensive. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:30.600 Real. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.720 My friends are like wow, like And what happens is 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.080 with a lot of especially friends that I have, that 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.840 they don't have a like a husband or a boyfriend 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.880 or whatever, or family that really supports them. You never 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.000 it's hard to think about people who don't have family 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.320 that supports them at all. And I have friends that 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.400 have that. And then they got their kids in three things, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.320 it's very difficult. They've run, run, They never have time 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:52.760 at home. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.120 Now they don't. They don't like you want to do stuff, 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.000 and then you get up you got to drive an 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.400 hour two hours to the game. 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.000 That what happened to the van used to be that 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.679 you put the kids on the van and they go 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.040 and they come back and their legs. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.880 You get your kids to the game and shout out. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.520 To my father because he probably said no, no, no, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.400 there wasn't that he might have rode on the van, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:16.640 but I followed. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.920 The van because he did. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.000 My thought of the day today, I tell you, man, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.200 I mean, you know, I'm so I said this. I 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.280 think last week I talked about being so ready for 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.120 this election to be over with because you know, I 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:38.440 just I I feel like at this point, I'm you know, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.480 I'm starting to feel that feeling that I don't want 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.160 to feel, and I fight against it of just not 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.920 wanting to communicate with be in relationship with people who 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:53.640 I think support something that I know is very dangerous 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.679 for me, especially as a woman. And I think that's 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.679 at a point in life, we all come to a 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:06.320 place where, you know, we have to think about ourselves too, right, Like, yes, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.160 we think about the greater good of everybody, but then 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.559 we also think about ourselves. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.400 And I find it. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.000 I kind of feel like I sit in a place 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.080 as a Black woman where for our entire existence, we 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.640 as women, especially you know, as black women, we have 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:27.559 always had to consider everybody in every decision that we need. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.960 That's just the way it is. We've considered the whole, 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.680 not just Black women, black men, and our children, but 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.160 we've considered white folk and other communities, like, that's just 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.280 always what we have done. If you have a lookout 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:45.199 at protests and you know things like that, like advocacy 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.720 or whatever, you will always know that, especially at a protest, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.760 if you just count the number of people, women generally 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.160 will out number everybody you know, will outnumber everybody. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.520 Black women. We just do. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.319 That's that's always been our role. And so then at 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:03.880 some point you kind of sit back and you look 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.160 at yourself and then you're like, Okay, what do we 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:11.520 also need in order to survive, not just succeed, but 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.920 to survive. And when you do that, it makes you 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.960 start to look at people around you very different, you know, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.000 because then it's kind of like, well, how do you 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.840 have my best interest at heart? 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.360 And I feel like, you. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:29.360 Know, I, in this particular moment, am starting to slip 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:35.760 into a place of not wanting to have relationships with 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.800 folks who I know have heard and understand and it's 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:45.120 been articulated to them well enough, why this particular moment 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:49.719 and this particular election season is extremely dangerous. And I 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.000 would send back thinking to myself, I don't like this 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.560 division of black men and black women, and I want 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.880 us to be real careful about it. I think that 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.280 as a black woman, I am not a black man. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.200 So I see men like you and others speaking on 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.640 some of the issues with black men, and I think 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.240 that's okay, because there's going to be a difference of opinion. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.599 People are going to have how I feel, how do 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.000 they feel. But in the shoes that I sit in, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.120 when I have people out there in the world who 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:22.959 are clearly, very very very much so targeting me as 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:27.720 a woman in their talking points, in their campaign, in 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:33.600 their ideology, in their agenda, and other folks are not 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.080 looking at that saying well, this is a problem for me, 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.280 or at least and at least I'll speak up about it. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:39.760 Right. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.400 I think one of the hardest things has been to 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:48.600 watch folks give and to repeat or to talk about 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.280 their feelings about this particular election. And I'm not just 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.600 talking about black men. I'm talking about all communities. I 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:00.920 hear people talking about their feelings about this election, and 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.920 they never even mentioned, well, one of the things that 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.360 I don't like, or one of the things that I 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.160 am very uncomfortable with, is this idea that we as men, 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.080 and especially white men, have the right to make decisions 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:18.160 about women's bodies, right, I don't even hear that, and 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.360 I was. I had a conversation with a friend of 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:26.440 yours actually about why when I look at your social 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:31.200 media every day, I see you disrespecting Kamala Harris the 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.800 same way that this white man is calling her stupid, 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.920 calling her dumb, calling her an idiot. I don't understand 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.120 why that's okay for you as a man, period. I 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.120 don't care whether she's black or not. I do not 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:51.720 understand why men, right, all men do not look at 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.920 the disrespect of a woman and say I don't care 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.720 if she's black, white, green, or orange, but especially if 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.360 she's black. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.280 I'm not okay with that. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.280 And it's certain language that I will never use to 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.680 describe any woman. I'm not gonna call you stupid and 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:12.160 dumbing an idiot, right, I'm going to I might say, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.080 I don't believe that this woman is prepared to do 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.920 this job. I don't believe that she has the skill set. 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.440 But you know what happened. I sat back, and I 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:27.560 realized that some people are really limited in their own thinking, 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.400 like their own IQ is not that high, so the 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.320 only thing they know to do is to disrespect and 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:35.360 degrade other. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.040 Folks, and that's why they attracted the Trump right. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.640 And then that's what made me say, I am in 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.000 a space where I don't think I can continue to 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:49.280 have relationships with certain folks that I realize don't really 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.400 respect or love or even care about women. They might 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.560 like you as a friend that they see and talk 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:56.960 to from time to time, but they. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:57.600 Don't respect you. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.520 They don't respect your leadership, They don't respect us and 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.760 the challenges that we face as women in our society. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.680 And the last point that I realized is like, wow, 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:14.840 how can I expect men in general? Again, this is 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.280 not a Black male thing. It's just men in general 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:24.120 to respect women when there are still denominations, even within 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.640 the Black Church, and other places that don't even have 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:31.080 women in the pulpit, that don't even have women in 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.520 positions of leadership leadership. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:33.920 In their churches. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.080 So I just, you know, I don't know, it's a 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.160 long drawn out thought, but I feel like I'm at 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.080 a place where while I said I wasn't gonna let 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.480 this happen, and now here we are, and I know 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.160 there's certain people I can't continue to have relationships with. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.560 I mean, that's a real thing, and you know, and 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.200 I think. What I also think is we have to 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.600 teach and allow people to grow to a certainty and 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.080 you don't have to you don't have to be in 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.800 that season or that space, right because what I had 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.800 to learn is about patriarchy and misogyny. I had to 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.280 learn what that was. I didn't understand what it was. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.800 And as you learn and you grow, and you realize 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:15.120 how that affects not just you but the people around you, right, 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.040 the woman that you say you respect. When when you 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.200 speak about a woman in the manner and you and 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.159 not acknowledging that your mother or your sister, or your 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.160 grandmother or your wife or just people that's close to you, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.360 you this is a reflection of how they might think 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.960 that you feel about them, right and innate and deeply, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.800 you know how we say it covertly, this is actually 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.720 how you feel. You don't express it to them because 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.840 you know, these are certain people that you actually value 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.760 because you in close proximity to them, but as a whole, 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:49.919 you don't really value them. So like when you have 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:55.000 a conversation and you're saying that Kamala is not prepared 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.520 or she's not qualified, it's for me. It's like, I 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.520 don't even know how that conversation it comes out of 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.560 your mouth. Because when you look, when you look at 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.520 the accomplishments that this lady has, they. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.520 Say way to the top, which is what they say 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.000 about me, about almost everyone. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.840 But that's what I'm trying to say, like black one 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.239 that ever was. But the thing is, she's not sleeping byself, right, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.560 So that's what I'm trying to tell you. So when 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.479 you say she slept her way to the top, there 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.639 might have been people that was lower than her that 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.359 she probably slept with that she helped get in position. Right. 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:29.200 There might be the dynamics of who you deal with. Always, 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:33.440 relationships help certain things, but you are qualified and prepared 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.480 when you get to the top, right. And I'm not 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.320 saying she did. The whole thing I'm trying to say 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.480 is when you look at somebody who went from being 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.560 a lawyer to DA Right to being a senator to 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.200 be in all these things, those things you just can't. 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.560 You don't just get in those positions, right, You don't 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.720 just keep those positions. You don't just innovate certain programs. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.120 You don't come up with ideologies and things that are 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.480 the first groundbreaking in your arena because you just slept 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.199 your way to the top. No, that that's just not 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.280 a real thing. It's just is just not a real thing. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.800 And the fact that you can say that and when 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.600 you look at the person that she's running against, right, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.359 really has no accomplishments. It's just like, this is somebody 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.760 who is born with a silver spoon and was giving money, 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.080 you know, and made a couple of lucky things, and 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.159 for the most part hasn't even excelled at that. Right, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:27.160 They've been able to scam and trick you. Right, this 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:28.800 is this is what it is. It's like, it's like 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.800 when we look at the era that we're in, we're 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.679 in the era of the troll. Right, the troll is successful. 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.239 I can name you five dudes that's millionaires on the 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.240 internet that don't that can't even survive in real life, 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.600 like dudes that you look at on the internet, and 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.639 these dudes is supposedly popping in real life in the 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.840 jungle way I had to survive. These dudes could not 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.240 survive five minutes. They couldn't They could not go through 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.520 the trenches, they could not go through what it takes 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:57.240 to overcome and go through trials and tribulations and come 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.800 from nothing. They just couldn't. They were not they aren't 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.280 prepared for that. So when you look at this, the 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:08.159 person who she's running against, that's one of those individuals, right, 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.200 that's one of those individuals that never really was faced 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.719 with adversity, that's always had something to bail them out, 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:14.880 that's always had somebody to bail them out. So when 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.439 you compare it too, it's like and then you and 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.520 then you you try to downgrade the little HUDs just 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.960 like that's it's just insane. So when you realize that, 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.760 you just have to say that people evolve at different rates, 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.520 and some people it's gonna be some people, like just 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.280 like when we talk about Uncle Lou, right, we talk 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.359 about Dale Hughley. These were people that were that had 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.360 sipped the tea at first and had to come back 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.360 and apologize, right right, They actually had to come back 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.240 and said, now I brought into what they said about 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.119 YA brought and I started doing my research and I 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.160 started listening. Then we had a conversation. I was like, damn, 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.960 I was so wrong. You know, everybody can't see the 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.200 forest from the trees, so what I try to give 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.399 a lot of people grace because I know that a 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.960 lot of people are not leaders to me and understanding 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.000 that when you're a leader, you have to come from 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.840 position in leadership and say, I know you don't understand, 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:07.720 So I'm gonna be a lot more patient with you. 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.760 It's gonna be a time with my patience whereas then. 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.800 But right now, I'm gonna walk you through and I'm 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.840 gonna educate you. I'm gonna give you all the information 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.080 for you to change your perspective or be able to 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:21.119 make a knowledge knowledgeable, you know, understanding of what you're saying. 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.080 But until then, I try to do I did my best. 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.240 I try to do that with another one of your 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.439 friends that you love and I love as well. I 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.560 try to educate, but I just know that's It's a 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.760 very interesting thing when you see that a lot of 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:36.480 people don't know that they just have a lot of 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:37.520 misogyny in their heart. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.400 Yeah, because misogyny is is embedded in within this culture. 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.160 You know what I'm saying. It's a white supremacy thing, 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.200 and black men who want to have power, they feel 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:47.280 like that's what they need. 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.400 In order to have you have to put somebody down 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:50.240 in order to rise. 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.600 So you know, I could go We could go on 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:55.560 because I had a lot to say, but I think 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.520 we got to do our team I because our guests 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.600 is coming in and we got a man with the 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.040 very important schedule in New York City, And so I 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.440 wanted to do this TMI today because when I woke, 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.960 let me tell you, we have the right to change 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:10.560 our minds. 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.240 Isn't that something fact? 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:17.160 We have the right to evolve in seconds, in millions, 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:22.160 in the hours of a day, you can actually evolve. 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:24.359 I thank God for evolution. 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:29.560 I thank God for the freedom to start one way 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.800 in the morning and later on that day say you 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:33.720 know what I thought about that I processed it. 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.240 And that's why it's important. 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:39.320 I get that we want to speak because there's things 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:42.760 happening and you want to speak, But sometimes it takes 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.239 a little while to digest and to sink in, and 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.440 once it sinks in, you might come back with a 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:49.240 different response. 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.120 So check this out on my TMI today. 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.040 I want to talk about young dro what took place 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.560 on the Breakfast Club. He was on there with TI. 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.080 They obviously had some other brothers with them that were 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.919 in the studios on the couch, you know, in the 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:06.080 in the room and watching the show actually in their space. 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.520 And I know you saw this, and many people who 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:14.160 are listening saw Young drou was attempting to explain about 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:19.320 his addiction issues and overcoming addiction. And let me just say, 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.240 very important to say. Even in this process of writing 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.879 this book, and I know I've talked about addiction many 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:28.480 times because I feel it's free. 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.520 It frees me a lot to get it out. It 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:32.960 is not easy. 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.679 The first time that I actually said it, or wrote it, 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.000 or and put it out there in the world, I 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.800 literally felt like I was going to puke, Like I 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:47.240 felt so scared right the stages of going to rehab 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.440 and all of that. That shit is terrible. It is 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:55.400 very very hard. And trying to articulate it in public, 0:23:55.960 --> 0:24:00.480 I would imagine, especially as a strong man, and trying 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.000 to articulate that in a rum of other people, it 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.760 is not easy to do on camera knowing a bunch 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.439 of people are listening. So Young Droe was trying to 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.879 you know, he was articulating his story, and they laughed, 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.359 they joked, you know, as he's trying to get it out, 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.760 everybody's being funny. He was being funny, but it came 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.920 a time when it wasn't funny anymore. And this gentleman 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.280 who was with them, sitting right behind them, he continued 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.639 to laugh. Now I appreciate the fact that the brothers 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.119 on the set, particularly TI, I shut it down because 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.000 they was getting ready to get into a fight about 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:33.119 him laughing, and they shut it down. But I wanted 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.280 to just tell you how evolution of the mind. So 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:40.280 the brother is giggling back there, ke keying about something 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.520 that at this point they moved past the laughing. You 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.000 gotta know when things are not funny anymore. And young 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.120 Droe was trying to explain his story. He starts talking 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.280 about his daughter being addicted. At the point that he 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.879 mentioned his daughter all better off. Nobody needs to be 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.360 laughing because now he's opening up about some real serious shit, 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.639 and the young man giggles, and so he turns around 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.280 and says to him, you want me to slap you, 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.199 And the two of them get into an exchange of 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:05.919 you ain't gonna slap me with what you want to do, 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:07.720 And of course, as I said T, I shut it 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.840 down and was like, stop it no more cool. So 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.520 when I saw it this morning, I was like, Yeah, 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.200 I would have told him I'm gonna slap you too, 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.680 because this is some bullshit, like it's not funny, right. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.520 But by the time I sat with that thing all day, 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.680 I realize, and I'm not saying young drou is wrong. 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.040 I think different people come from different perspectives. I understand 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.119 his vulnerability, I get it. But what I have to 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.119 what I now am trying to do in my life 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.879 is think about what can I how can I respond 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.720 even to somebody else's ignorance in a way that diffuses 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.600 versus makes a situation go from zero to one hundred. 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.600 So this little thing about I'm gonna slap you on air, well, 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:51.200 what you're gonna do? 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:52.560 Well, what we're gonna do with what's in that? And 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.479 you know how it can end up. 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.760 Somebody could end up dead, Somebody could end up in 0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.040 a big fight, friendships are broken up forever. It could 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:05.200 be all types of scenarios, and it particularly violent scenarios 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:09.000 to come from that one moment. So my evolution by 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.280 the end of the day because I do believe as 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.640 a TAMI that old boy was doing too much, too 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.720 much in that moment, but I also can see how 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.480 to turn around and say to him, hey man, I'm 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:26.480 not joking anymore. Is much more evolved than to say 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.880 I'm gonna slap you. So I just want to say 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.000 today to Mika Mallory. 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.000 Grew up in a few hours. 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:38.080 Today, I went from I'm gonna slap you to hey man, 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:39.240 cut it out. 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:39.960 I'm serious. 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.000 Now that's a press That's a real life process for me, 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.240 right Like I've had to evolve in seconds because I 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:52.720 take disrespect, you know, very strong, because I respect you 0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.680 so much, so when you disrespect me, I used to 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.000 feel like I had to impose, you know. I used 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.840 to think my old turn to violence was more violence 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.159 because I understood that if you knew I was willing 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:06.960 to be more violent than you was, then you would 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.800 not want violence with me. So that was my mentality. 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.160 So now I have to diffuse things that I normally wouldn't. 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.320 And I remember for you to make me feel like 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.160 I'm being soft, And I used to listen to people 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.080 my little brothers have teasing me you soft now before 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.439 you went and deal with that, and I'd be like 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:23.440 it needs to make me feel a way. But now 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.840 I realize that I'm a grown adult man and I'm evolved, 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.720 and I can and I can think, I can outthink 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.240 a situation. You know, I know how to protect myself. 0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.560 I have to, but I'm not trying to initiate any 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.280 violence with somebody that I don't have to because I 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.920 could just stay away from you, right, I could literally 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.000 just keep you out of my circumference because if you 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:46.359 if I allow you to dictate my actions, then you 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.159 controlled me and I don't control. So that that was 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.160 a level of evolution. When I hear you say that, 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.800 I remember times that that would have been my response, 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.680 but now I know that normally that's my response. 0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:01.120 Now the TMI slash to my you're doing too much 0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.800 segment of the day is we're going from I'm gonna 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.000 slap you to chill out right, you. 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:09.400 Gotta learn how to diffuse. 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.440 And again we're not saying I know, I'm not saying 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.080 that I don't understand young dro and that he was 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.560 not he was wrong, because I don't think he was wrong. 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.359 I think the other brother was absolutely in the wrong. 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.560 But at some point we have to recognize that if 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:30.080 we don't know how to control our response to ignorance, 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.280 we could end up killing people or being killed because 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:38.480 it could just go that far, especially when two men 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:43.200 feel disrespected in an environment where millions of people are watching. 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.640 So that's it, you know, I just I figured that 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.000 on today I could pat myself on the back a 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.920 little bit from because in the morning time I was like, yeah, 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:54.320 I'm telling you, I would have got up. 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:54.760 I would have. 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.520 Said up to fives told I told people, I said, 0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:01.080 you know what, And by the now I'm like, okay, 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.080 maybe I should shouldn't think that way. 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.240 And that's why they teach us to our first judgment. 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.960 That's right, that's right, that's the principles dangerous. 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.480 That's the that's in the the principles of non violence 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.160 that Carmen Perez can introduce us King of nonviolence, that 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.840 which was doctor King's principles to suspend your first judgment 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:25.400 and gather more information, which the short version of that 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.960 is sit still and be quiet for a second. Yeah, 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.200 you gotta be quiet for a second, because that's another thing. 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.440 Even I don't even know if you have to say 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:39.200 chill out, you could just be quiet and don't speak anymore. 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.880 To see it, the person will catch up to the 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.400 fact that what you're doing is distracting me from a 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:48.480 serious situation. 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.280 I say that all the time, that they are people 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:56.720 in prison for life over things They wasn't mad at 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:57.520 three days. 0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.760 Later, right, they don't even remember what what happened. 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:02.680 It wasn't even mad at. They're not mad and none 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:04.360 of it no more. But you got life in prison 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.480 because immediate energy. 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.040 We know somebody in prison right now that or in 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:14.920 jail rather right now, young guy just you know, probably 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:19.000 had every reason to be upset at, every reason to respond. 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.760 But to your point, mean you said something powerful. Now 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.960 the situation controlled you. You didn't control the situation. So 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:31.120 you sitting in the jail over something that if you 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.880 could do it all over again, you wouldn't even be 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.360 having the first conversation that led to the second conversation, 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.320 let alone the second conversation. 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.840 It's just we gotta do a little bit better. 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.560 And I do know one thing to circle all the 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.080 way back to my granddaughter. 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.320 They learn what you teach them, what you do, what 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:50.760 you say. 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.520 And me and my son will say to me in 0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.080 the drop of a dime, we'd be out somewhere and 0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:00.000 he'd be like, oh, oh, all of a sudden, you 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.480 just let people just do and say anything to you, 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.960 And that's because he grew up with me as a 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.720 young girl who wherever we was at, if anybody did 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.959 or say anything, we was yelling, I'm getting it, popping 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.880 with him in toe and so he learned that behavior. 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.920 So now trying to do things different with my granddaughter, 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.000 that's not what I want her to see as an 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.719 example of how I respond to things, you know what 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.760 I mean, so that she could learn it different, because 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.960 sure enough, my mama taught me how to pop off 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:37.080 when it was time to pop off. To listen, let's 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.240 get our guests in here. We don't want this brother 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:47.800 to leave us, but I appreciate I appreciate this show 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.680 and how much it does for us to be able 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.240 to talk and learn and evolve together. So let's bring 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:59.720 our guests today. Is absolutely no stranger to our show 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:01.640 and just to being out in the streets. I know 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.760 earliest day y'all were out together somewhere, my son and 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.920 our public advocate Jimani Williams. Y'all were out with k 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:14.440 Bane out in Brooklyn at the Human Justice March. 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.520 Indigenous People's that. 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.080 That's what's up, And Jimani, I feel like you know, 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.640 for us, we always have friends that are doing incredible things. 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:25.360 On this show. 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.720 Last week we had l Joy Williams, who right now, 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.400 when I look at the insights of how many people 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.760 watched what she was talking about, we're up to like 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:38.480 sixty thousand people who paid attention to this woman talking 0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.760 about a guide a journal that she has created on 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.760 a voting plan, like how to create a voting plan. 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.640 So people are paying attention. And I say all the 0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.280 time that in chaos we have found one another, which. 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:52.000 Is a beautiful thing. 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.920 You know, it's unfortunate, it's painful because I think the 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.240 first time I met you might have been a protest, 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.360 might have been something highly Probably when's the first time 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:02.600 you met Jimani my son? 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.720 He was at a protest? I don't know, it was 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:06.840 definitely at a protest. 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:12.040 Yeah, absolutely, So we appreciate you for being it's really nice. 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:12.240 Right. 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.400 Did the news yep? Thank you for coming by today? 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.680 Me neither. I just put it on and she just copied. 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.200 Not in copy. I just got dressed and that's that. 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:29.840 But I think great minds thinking, like so Indigenous People's 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:34.400 Day today, we don't celebrate Christopher Columbus Day. 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:41.680 You go, Wallace and my little brother, you know, but you. 0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.960 Know, I think in this time that we're in UH 0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:49.000 in America when we think about Indigenous People's Day, and 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:53.440 we know that so that the Indigenous community is still 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:58.880 not respected and honored properly UH in the society. And 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:02.280 it just makes me think think about how many of 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.960 our people, or people just all over America feel so displaced, 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.359 so dishonored, so mistreated. And so I do know that 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.799 while Indigenous People's Day is supposed to be this celebratory moment, 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.839 there are a lot of people who are suffering and 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.600 who want to make sure that today is about us 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.760 remembering them in your spirit and their struggles. 0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.200 No, for sure, theres a lot of people watch it, 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.160 so I want to be clear. You know, I don't 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:32.560 mind celebrating heritage as well, So I just whoever's watching 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.279 they say crazy stuff. 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.280 That's not Christopher Columbus. 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.360 Columbus a right, and the reason they attached themselves to 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.839 Columbus because when they got had they was getting lynched 0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.759 and stuff too. But they always, you know, everybody wants 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.920 proximity to what they think helps them in America, so 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.680 they try to attach themselves to this man never discovered 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.279 this country and usher in some of the worst genocidal 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:52.440 massacres we've ever seen. 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:53.720 So I don't mind. 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.600 Celebrating that, but we have to celebrate in the people 0:34:56.080 --> 0:35:00.719 people's day, and we have to do you know, there'll 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.560 be anything attached to Christopher Columbus at all. 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:04.720 It's it's insane. 0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.160 I guess it's not because we pushing somebody to be 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.560 president that probably comes in that same vein, but to 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.799 be celebrating this person the way we do, it's just 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.359 it's incredible to me, even first of all, celebrating him 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:17.799 on a lie, like he didn't even do the thing 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:18.600 you said, he. 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:21.239 It's a whole lie. 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.160 And then the things he did was just horrendous, and 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.480 people look at folks who are saying, look, let's just 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:30.680 not celebrate him. Somehow we're crazy, and so you experience 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.080 that people it's just wild and said, I just don't 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.200 want to celebrate that man all this and that. What 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.839 are you talking about? Why would you celebrate this person? 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:40.400 Exactly? 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.239 There's a local council member I tried to I haven't 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.120 really said anything. I don't want to make it hot, 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.200 but you know, a shout out to Justin Brandon. He 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.880 just unfortunately he got kicked out of the Italian the 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:56.560 Italian what is it, the Italian City Council. 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:57.439 Club, the club. 0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:59.640 They kicked him out committee. 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:03.400 Committee just because he said, let's try to celebrate Italian heritage, 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.640 but not this man, and they just kicked him out. 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.200 But shout out to him for standing tall. I hope 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.360 I don't get him in more heat for saying this, 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.080 But you know, I just I want to be like, 0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.960 I recognize that, and that's not easy to do. 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.040 But the fact that somebody can just say I don't 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:17.399 want to. 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:24.959 Sell a murderous, horrific person and attach that to my heritage, 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.040 and somehow that that should be the norm, that should 0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.200 be what we're doing. And so it's all but you know, 0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.560 it's unfortunate, but I see where we're at now in 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:33.400 this country anyway. 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.040 It's a kind of track. 0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.080 And that brings me to my question, like, in this season, 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.759 as a black man, how are you feeling because we 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.560 are dealing with so many different things. You know, we're 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.480 dealing with this presidential election, we're dealing with someone who's 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:54.560 damn near Christopher Columbus, right, the modern day Christopher Columbus, 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.759 and you being a public advocate a part of a government, like, 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.200 how are you feeling? And how are you like? What 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.120 are the thought processes that you have? 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.560 Man, it's just stunning to me to see a Donald 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.080 Trump like and he's getting quote unquote dark and dark 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.120 as we get close, Like the things he is saying 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.120 are just like he's not like, I don't I'm just saying, 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:20.600 whatever can give you permission to dislike who you dislike anyway, 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.319 I'm gonna say that. And it's getting worse and worse. 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.440 We get there and it's and it's it seems to 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:27.600 be working for those folks. 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.680 So you want a white man on a do you 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:35.800 want a black person or a white man? 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.120 I think you want a white man. 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.520 That's one of his latest at least one of the 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:42.799 latest clips that's out there. 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.640 But it's not like, but he has been who he 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.200 is forever, like this is who he said he was 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.160 and people want this and you go through history, there's. 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.879 A playbook of these type of leaders that. 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.200 Have done some of the worst things in history, and 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.480 he's just he's playing that book to the t like 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.240 reality is crazy. Do you see this last thing about 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:09.240 the hurricanes in Florida? People are literally putting death threats 0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.840 against meteorologists and Manjie Taylor Green and some of the 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.839 MAGA leaders and Trump are telling these folks that these 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:21.000 meteorologists are creating the weather, are changing the weather, Like 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.400 what is happening right anything except climate change? But you 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.600 look at this like you know, people are literally believing this, 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.400 Like I don't I want facts to make a comeback. 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:31.399 I don't know if they'll make. 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:35.720 It before No, definitely, How do you. 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.920 Somebody they should? How do you all with somebody like 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.440 this sky is blue and like, no it's not. 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:41.120 I don't. 0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.799 I have trouble figuring that out. Like I respect people 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.920 who disagree with me and we have an argument. But 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.880 if I'm telling you this like this, this this is orange, 0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.480 like nah, yo, it's black because it's such I don't 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.200 know how to talk. 0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.799 That's the space I'm in. That's the real space you 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:04.160 have question no, no, no. As a black man, right when 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:08.920 you see when you see not just the you know 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.239 somebody telling you when you go to your page and 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.719 you go to other page, because my page is full 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:19.680 with black men trying to explain to me why they're 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:23.480 with Trump, Like how does that even make you feel? 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.520 So what I try to do in these situations, I 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.719 feel every like I feel the emotions and I try 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.759 to unpack them and I try to make sure I'm 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.799 understanding someone's journey to the space they got through so 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.680 I can help because I can help figure this out 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.719 and the trauma that as you know, I mean, I'm 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.680 a part of Democratic Party. They have been part of 0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:44.560 the problem. Like there's just no way around that. And 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.080 part of being part of the problem has driven some 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:52.120 of these black men to these spaces. But I have 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.319 to like when I try to push back, like I 0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.520 understand your pain, I don't understand how you think this 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.400 is the answer. So I tell them, folks, you know, 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.480 don't jump out of the frying pan into the fire. 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:04.880 This is not what's going to be sisus. As I 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.680 said at the march, like whatever issue I have with 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.399 Kamala Harris, we can have a conversation and we can 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.560 push her. This man has literally said I'm going to 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.640 take the United States on me and crush any descent 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:23.040 that comes out, any protests. How is that even handed 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.440 comparison of problems. I don't I disagree here, but we're 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.080 gonna talk. I'm gonna crush any kind of descent that 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:29.360 you have. 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.680 Yeah, well, but see, let me push that, right, because 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.759 I think that I was having a conversation with Congressman 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:42.120 Jamal Bawman today and for sure, and I told him 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:46.560 that the feeling of conflict that exists within me in 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.960 this moment is more than I've ever vote in my life. 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.839 Because on one hand, we say like we can push them, 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.520 and I know we can. I mean, I understand who 0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.200 we're dealing with. Obviously. I actually know, you know, Vice 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.239 President Harris. I've met her, and so I know that 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:07.520 I know a little bit more about her compassion around 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:11.240 certain things. And I also have as a black woman, 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.759 I certainly have a lot of hope and belief in 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.279 what I believe a black woman, especially a black woman 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.360 from Howard, a black woman who's an AKA. 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.080 It's a lot of things that you. 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:26.000 Know your wife Indians she is an AKA as well, 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.279 And there's a lot of hope that I have there, right, 0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.600 And so that's that we put that to the side. 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:35.239 But just thinking about America in general, being in a 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:41.920 country where students who are protesting under this administry, a 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:47.880 democratic administration, are being beat up bloody for protesting. What 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:52.040 is happening to the Palestinian people. How do we make 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:57.200 people understand the difference in these two scenarios when he's 0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.000 saying he's gonna crush descent and Descent is actually being crushed. 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.600 Yeah, First of all, you know how I feel that 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:06.040 it was all wrong and the Columbia president, I think 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:07.879 sparked all that across the nation. 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.320 How she handled that that was horrific. 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.960 I think Columbia University of New York State City it. 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:15.359 Would have been. 0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:19.719 And unfortunately there was a mayor more than willing to 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:21.480 act like they were free and for Lojah when there 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.000 was a bunch of students who were non violent protests. 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:28.239 So that combination of that was terrible. But think about 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.040 what that would have looked like under the Trump administration. 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.120 What do you think would have happened under Trump administration 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.680 and what they would have used to crush that descent 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:42.440 even harder? And I like, I have that conflict in myself, 0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:46.799 and then I have to remember, like we keep we 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.160 provide moral balances when there isn't this man, this is 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.440 the the president. He was a president I States in America, 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.920 and he's running again telling people that Hatians are eating Castenbill, 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.920 his vice president, repeated was told that it's a lie 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:05.440 and said, I'm going to continue lying about it because 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.879 it helps me lift up issues. This is what we're 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:13.759 dealing with on the other side. That's not even a comparison. 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.239 I don't know what to do with that. I don't 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.839 know how to get past that. I know here there's 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.320 at least a lane of sanity that I can I 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.040 can try to jest. I am tired of having due 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.840 the lesson, like I'm really tired of that, and I 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.600 don't know how many times I can do that. But 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.560 there's an existential threat that exists that I don't know 0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.680 if its existed before. I know every time there's an election, 0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.560 people say this, but this dude is wild, is different, 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.120 This is some other stuff like he's got the worst 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.799 because that's the only lay he got, and people act, 0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:50.000 I'm gonna say some I don't. I don't want to 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.040 get in trouble, but like I. 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.880 Know, but they're looking at it. 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.200 Like people act like the decisions of what you need 0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.400 to do right now, it's not real. 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:04.000 Get mad, Let's move on, Okay, but let's move on. 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.800 I'm just saying, when you have to make a decision 0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.960 right now, don't tell me that something is not worse 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.239 than the other. It just is, like you could pretend 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.239 that it's not. You could pretend, oh well, listen that. 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.319 But if you have to make a decision and this 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:22.000 one clearly it's worse, don't pretend that this is not. 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:27.040 Just just let's not do that, please, because I'm gonna. 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.200 Say, we're not being honest with us. 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.800 Yeah, that's all. Like if you God forbid, this is 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.719 a horrible comparison. But I just have to say, if 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.239 someone he was back in the time institution of slavery, 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.600 it's a terrible I'm not gonna say, I'm not saying. 0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.400 I'm just saying, but if you somebody say this is 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.240 the worst one, this is the better one. 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.160 Don't pretend like that's not a difference. 0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:46.880 That's a big difference. 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:47.960 Well, there was a difference. 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:49.840 The difference was did you want to go in the 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:51.880 house or did you want to be in the field. 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.759 That was a difference to make. 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.759 But I'm just saying people had to say, well, I'm 0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.839 just stand here and I got a snitch in order 0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:01.880 to stay here, or I gotta have sex with masters 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.040 in order to stay here, because out there. 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.719 There was actually but do you know what the reality is. 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.120 And unfortunately there was different masters, right there were different 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.000 and this is this is what I'm saying, Like there's 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.600 a there's a reality that there was the master that 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.239 was like, you know what, I ain't raping and I 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:16.880 just want you all to do in the field. We're 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:18.080 gonna do that. And then there was the one that 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:18.600 was gonna beat you. 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:19.640 And this is what I'm saying. 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.319 And these are realities now you have to deal with 0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:26.040 and we still live in America because we still live 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.319 in America, and America is is based on racism, It's 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.840 based on those realities, it's based on war, it's based 0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:36.880 on you know, white supremacy. That's what we live at. 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:40.080 Until we completely disman to white supremacy. We have to 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.759 navigate it. We have to figure out how fuck do 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.800 we navigate the white supremacy. This is what we're dealing 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:46.399 with right now. 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:51.160 We're dealing with people like no because like I know, 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.040 like if God forbid, like the whole institution should be 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.440 destroyed and we should work on that. But at that 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.400 moment in time, if somebody said, for whatever reason, you 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.200 have a choice of go to the described. 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.879 This is the reality. Is this man I was locked 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:06.759 up in prison. And if you was in prison in 0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.640 New York State, you know, if they chose asks you 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.600 do you want to go to sing sing? Or do 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.640 you want to go to Attica. Niggas is going to 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.680 sing sings a sweeter of jail. It's still jail. We 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.200 still want to but niggas, like everybody was trying to 0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.759 get the sing sing, we're trying to make right now, 0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.560 sing sing. This is the reality. I'm not trying to 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.640 go to Attica where they got the babies. The white 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.120 bears got the the black babies on their arms with 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.600 nooses on their neck. They beating you in the shower 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.520 as soon as you get off through they It's the 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.400 most racist shit that you ever dealt with. This is 0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.560 the reality what we deal with. And I tell people 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.320 all the time, I understand the threat of a Donald Trump. 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.239 I told and this is the really shit that I 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:47.680 really sat and thought about it. I was having a 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.640 conversation at the march with a brother today and I 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.680 was like, I literally was in the street from the 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:56.000 first day of Donald Trump's presidency to the end of it. 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.600 I was in the streets protesting. I had to fight 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.719 for rights people dying every day, almost every day we 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.480 was on the road having to deal with something in 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.840 justice that was happening to our people. I've never experienced 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.600 that for four years straight. I've never experienced anything like that. 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.719 And I don't know, I don't know that I have 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:22.720 the standin up at this point. I mean, I'm I'm tired, 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.799 like I don't why. And and now he's more he's 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:26.560 more skilled. 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:32.280 And now the Supreme Court has said. 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.000 The police community when we was outside and we was 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:39.240 face to face with those officers in Louisville under Trump 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.719 right now, them people could kill us, like literally could 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:43.200 kill us. 0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.680 Well, the thing is, you know, when we look back 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:47.319 at can I just. 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:48.800 Say, I don't want to skip over that to people 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.040 who are listening right because I'm like, I can't pretend 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.720 that this is the answer to everything we ever wanted. 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.239 I'm just saying right now as an up choice that 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.560 we have to make, but it is a real choice. 0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:02.239 And let's not pretend that one choice. 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:05.399 And it's not that we're I know, I know you're 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.840 not saying that Kamala Harris is this terrible tran What 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.799 we're talking about is the is the Democrats versus the 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:18.480 Republicans that we find sign it's problematic. I mean, we 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.960 know that, and I think we know what. If I 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:25.080 was someone listening to us and I didn't hear us 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.719 say this, I would turn it off because you're being 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:31.680 disingenuous if you do not acknowledge that the Democrats and 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:35.920 Republicans are like have some very very very significant problems. 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:40.400 But this Maga thing is completely completely outside of what 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:43.400 I think our communities are prepared to handle. And I 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.880 tell you, in this conversation that I was having with 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:50.319 Congressman Jamul Bowman, he said, I said to him, he said, 0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:53.120 some people feel like we're on the brink of a 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.120 civil war. Like that's how people feel, right, and people 0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.839 are really worried about that. And when he's talking to constituents, 0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.319 that's what they're saying. We feel like there is a 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:05.080 war that is brewing. And I said, what makes me 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.080 feel scared is I don't know where all of our 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:09.400 what side all of our. 0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.440 People will end up on. I don't know. 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:15.560 I don't know that as a black woman that I 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:20.960 can depend on a majority of black men to protect 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.400 me and to be with me. I believe that I 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:27.279 might be with the few or not the few. But 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:29.359 I don't know about that. 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.560 I don't know. I used to think that until to me. 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.880 Two things happened to me. Two things happen to me. 0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:41.040 The first thing is when I hear my own family 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:44.960 members who've been raised by it, with the same principles, 0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:48.120 the same whatever, talking about supporting Donald Trump. 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:49.160 That scares me. 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.759 Right, that's where my majority starts slipping away, because there's 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:55.279 certain people that I believe that I was gonna I 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.920 could go to. Right when I look up and I 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:01.560 see people like a Lord Jamar, who's someone who I 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.440 respect and deeply like, I mean, this was somebody to 0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:05.640 me who was like an icon. 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:07.600 And I see him spreading misinformation. 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:09.640 It's not even to me, it's not even. 0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:11.239 Well, it is misinformation. 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.440 I'm not saying it's not miss. I'm saying the problem 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.440 for me with him somebody that somebody I'm close to 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.680 as well, and I haven't had a conversation because I 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:23.480 don't even know how to converse with him at this point. 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:27.120 When when when every word is this bitch and that 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.680 and bitch bitch, and it's like you're supposed to be 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.120 to God, this this was God body large and more 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:35.440 and you and you're referring to a woman in this 0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:38.080 manner that you don't have, you don't have no personal 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.560 issues with. She ain't do nothing to your mother, she 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:43.200 like wall. 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.359 But how do we get this to put that? 0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:48.600 To go back into my point, my majority is slipping 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:52.200 away when I start seeing things like that, when I 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.480 hear a black man sit in my face, who is 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:59.040 a family member, man who completely supports Kamala Harris, but 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:02.719 he says to me, I'm in barbershop conversations and I'm 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.279 telling you that more black men than you think, right 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.279 are gonna cat. They're not gonna say it, but they're 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.600 gonna cast their vote for Trump. And I hear them 0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:14.640 saying a lot of black women, I'm not gonna vote 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.080 for Trump, but I'm not voting for her. 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.400 Right, I start feeling like the. 0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:23.560 Majority of those people who we will be with fighting with, which, 0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:27.880 by the way, is not an unusual concept, to be clear, 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:32.560 because in our struggle right now, we're not always it's 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.799 not always the majority. A lot of times in these 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:39.120 marches on the front line, we're out there with a 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.720 lot of people who don't even look like us more 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.000 than we are even with our own people. 0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:45.520 So I'm starting to worry about it. 0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:49.640 I would say that I think it will be the majority. 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:51.839 You believe that, yeah, I do. 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:56.680 I think there's a larger percentage than normal that are 0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.560 have have you know, the kool aid has been really strong. 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:07.319 Well, now, it's not kool aid. It's a intentional targeting, yes, and. 0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.760 It's it's worked on some folks because of the years 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.399 of neglect. And this is where a democratic party has 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:19.040 to take ownership has neglected to address. And we, many 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:20.920 of us, have been saying for a very long time, 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.600 you are taking these people for granted, over and over 0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.680 and over again, and now here we are not only that. 0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.480 And you know, I understand this, this this concept, but 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:35.239 there are many folks who feel like we have made 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:39.480 everything masculine, toxic everything. And here on the other side 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:42.600 you have a group of folks who are saying who actually, 0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.759 first of all, anything is nothing is off limits, So 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:47.839 you could be the most toxic whatever. Hey, come here, 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.000 we're gonna you could be here. 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:49.960 So now. 0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:55.000 Every day that you hate these people, that's fine, you 0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.040 hate them too, don't worry you could that that that 0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.920 they allow you to be the worst of our surgeon. 0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.920 But I think we got to go back to this point, 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.600 and I know you gotta go, and I also know 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.920 that it's a painful conversation because people will get very 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.520 upset with me for saying it. But I'm just telling 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:21.680 you that my experience as a woman, and particularly as 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:27.000 a Black woman, is that I have been harmed and 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.040 a lot of women that I know have been harmed 0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:34.080 many times by black men. It's just a truth, right, 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.600 And I said to my sign earlier on the show, 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.920 when I look at some places, even within the Black Church, 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:46.240 and I realize that some of our denominations still don't 0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:51.880 even allow women in the pulpit, we have more misogyny 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.839 in our community than we're willing to admit. And I 0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.440 think that if we were in a civil war kind 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:03.600 of scenario, that's I'm pushing it. But nonetheless, I'm not 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:07.680 sure where people would fall, because folks want to be 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:11.759 they want to be attached to or have proximity to 0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:15.600 what they believe is power or the winning side, and 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:19.239 so the few of us would be out there, but 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:23.880 as we always are, struggling and fighting on our own, 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.440 and that makes me feel uncomfortable. 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:32.400 No, you talk so one, that's a sad reality. Because 0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:34.760 I don't think black women have and we all agree, 0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.320 have ever been protected the way they're supposed to be protected. 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.040 So I can't take that away. I have my own 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:43.319 stories with my own wife, so like this is that's 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:47.719 a truth, a truism that we want to hold but not. 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:52.120 But and I feel like the majority of people like 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:55.879 this did to the majority, and the percentage is way 0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:56.960 too big. 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:57.440 Than it should be. 0:54:57.840 --> 0:54:59.440 Okay, I respect that. 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.680 Think the percentage of folks have just gotten a lot 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.839 bigger because of all the things that have happened and 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.120 all the feelings of leaders and a party previously. 0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:12.719 But what does that have to do with what I'm 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.680 talking about. I'm talking about the relationship. 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.759 Because you said they feel that they feel like. 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:21.080 I don't know that we will be will have. 0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:25.279 What I believe at one point it's certain people I 0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:28.560 just knew would be there but not. 0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:30.480 But like all of this is, and because I have 0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.000 family members who called me and told me they're voting 0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.480 for Trump. Praise God, I don't think they vote right, 0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.120 but they but they're telling me to vote, and they're 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:43.080 telling me like all of the things that have brought 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:47.480 trauma to them, they are now allowed to express it 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:50.520 in the worst ways, and that is intoxic. 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:51.920 All of this is intoxic. 0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.880 I have been suffering, and you are telling me that 0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:57.200 you're going to solve that suffering. 0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:58.160 That is age. 0:55:58.239 --> 0:55:58.359 Oh. 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:00.880 As matter of fact, I'm get rid of all them 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:05.200 people who have been bothering you, preventing you from getting 0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.640 where you're supposed to go in the first place. Remember 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:09.239 all these people toy you, they was gonna help you. 0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:10.000 They did not. 0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:14.279 I'm a strong man. I'm going to solve that. I'm 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.239 gonna solve this problem for you and get me here. 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.480 And I gave you that check that I ain't even 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.040 give you. So you have all that stuff combined, and 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.560 people like you know what, nothing has changed on these 0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:25.839 other people. He's telling me he gave me money, which 0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:27.480 hen't really give me. That's a whole other thing I've 0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:30.080 been telling these people. Make sure you're clear. Donald Trump 0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.280 trying to stop that check. It was a Democratic Congress 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.600 that got it for you. But not only did he 0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:36.919 give me money, He's getting rid of these people who 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:39.040 have been the problem, even though they have been the problem. 0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:41.880 That's the hell of an intoxication. They have people and 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:45.920 they're telling people in pain. That's why people abuse substances. 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:48.640 So I get what you're saying. 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:50.920 Yeah, I get, so I want to ask this question 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.120 before you leave. Obama made some statements and for me, 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.040 you know, my personal opinion is that we should be 0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.600 able to speak truth to power to our brother right. 0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:06.640 If if I'm seeing that you're doing something wrong, right, 0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.720 it's like you being abused, Like you have a friend 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:11.320 that's being abused, and you're saying, hey, why would you 0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:13.960 let that person abuse you? I don't think that's talking 0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:14.440 down to. 0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:17.360 You, so uh well, one also assistance. I just want 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:20.280 to make sure I heard you, like, that's real. I 0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:21.080 don't want to ignore. 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:22.120 No, definitely feeling. 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:26.160 It's really, it's really, it's very emotional like it gives me, 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.560 you know, because it's hard when you love so much. 0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.479 I love black men like I've been fighting for black 0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:34.720 men my whole life, and I have been in situations 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.760 where I almost died trying to protect black men. I 0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:40.160 have a black son of a black father. My whole 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:41.919 life is about and you know how much I love 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.640 the two of you and all the brothers around me. 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:47.560 But I have to at some point, as I said 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.959 to my son earlier today, start thinking about myself as well, 0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:53.840 and this is a reality for me. 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.640 I know that while. 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:58.560 I'm not saying that a white man wouldn't do it 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:02.240 to me, but my proximity has been to black men, right, 0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:04.240 and so only thing that. 0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.160 I can I don't even care whether a white man 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.480 protects me. Only thing I care about is because I 0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:12.280 feel like if we going out together, then hey, that's it. 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.960 And when I start to see when I go on Facebook, 0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:17.320 Instagram and other things and. 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:20.320 I see black men that I respect. 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:24.320 Deeply saying winch, she's a wench, she's stupid, she's an idiot. 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:27.720 And I'm answering a question. But think about why. We 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.960 have seen people their proximity to power. So we have 0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.800 seen folks say I'm gonna show you I'm just like you. 0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.120 So I'm just like you, which means I'm gonna call 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:40.320 my woman this thing. I'm the man in the house, 0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.160 and this is what it looks like. I love Christopher Columbus, 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:46.200 those LGBT folks and all this with you, so I 0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:49.120 to show you I'm with you. I'm a mimic and 0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.960 do the things that you do. So that proximity to 0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:56.920 America and what has brought certain community's power is an 0:58:56.960 --> 0:59:01.360 intoxicating thing. I see people with the thickest accents from 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:05.000 the Caribbean screaming at other immigrants. 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:08.480 It's the wildest thing in the world. But what's happening? 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.880 And then they want proximity to show I'm just like you, 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:15.840 and so that's the real thing. So that's a conversation 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:18.040 we just have to have because you're not the only one. 0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:22.880 And that's real. With the with the Obama conversation, for. 0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:27.240 Me, okay, it didn't hit me as hard as I 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:31.800 heard people think, like it probably was real conversation, real thought. 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:35.560 I will talk about whether the strategy that the strategy 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:38.720 is correct right now because we are so close to 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:42.480 election time at you know, think about when you're doing 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:45.000 something wrong. If somebody come and start pointing out you 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:48.320 right right now, it might take you a second to 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:52.000 get there, Like your response might be a defensive one 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.880 really quick, as opposed to I'm open and ready to 0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:58.880 receive this. So if we're trying to get people whose 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:01.640 mindset is not correct, they may not be ready to receive. 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:06.320 Like that message might not hit the person my family 1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:08.640 member who's talking about voting for Donald Trump. That message 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.880 probably won't hit them in enough time. 1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:13.400 So so how do you think the message should have 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:16.960 been delivered? Because I've seen people delivered in every way. 1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:19.439 So give me. Give me a message that you would 1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.480 give to black men right now that are telling you 1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.880 they're voting for Trump, that you think will resonate with them, 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.320 that they would say, damn, you know what. Let me 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:28.439 let me consider. 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.120 So one, I think a lot of a lot of 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:33.040 it is about turnout right now. So I think first 1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:36.080 of all, just Obama being present is a helpful thing. 1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.960 And I think we have to really talk about you 1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:45.480 can be your masculinity is not with the problem, that's 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:47.720 not what the problems. And you can be a black 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.280 man in this tent and she were alive with this, 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:53.560 Like you have to talk about that. Just talking about 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.920 the missogy right now, which is real, But tell telling 1:00:57.160 --> 1:00:59.960 the black man who has been sort of intoxicated by 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:03.320 this other message that it's your misogyny. That's like when 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:06.160 you're telling like you're telling a white person or you're racist. 1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:08.880 That's why, like automatically I might just shut it down 1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:11.600 even if it's true. So like so when I'm talking 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:16.080 to like when I'm talking to white people about privilege, 1:01:16.200 --> 1:01:19.000 I tried to use the word the racist work because 1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:21.000 then I'm like, you think I'm calling you a racist, 1:01:21.040 --> 1:01:22.760 and I didn't. You might be, so I don't take 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:25.040 it off the table. But that wasn't part of the conversation. 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:27.600 So I try to talk about what's going on in life, 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:29.760 how you show up, how I show up, What does 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:32.000 that mean in America. That's a conversation. So I need 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:33.960 to talk to just black men and black men and 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:37.040 what we're facing, what you're facing, what is the issues 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:40.040 in your life right now? Who's going to really assist 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:43.200 with that? And that man didn't give you a check. 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:46.600 That's a real conversation that people believe they got a 1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:49.760 check from Donald Trump and they did not. First of all, 1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:52.520 they got tax people's money, and Congress is the one 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:54.440 that pass Donald Trump tried to hold it up to 1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:56.880 get his name out there. I think those are the 1:01:56.920 --> 1:02:00.120 conversations and getting to be honest, Getting people right now 1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:03.240 who represent quote unquote masculine I think will be helpful. 1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:06.120 That Bruce Springsteen thing was dope. I think, particularly for 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.520 white men to see the boss out there, you need 1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:11.440 to get some more people like that that represent the strategy. 1:02:11.520 --> 1:02:14.640 Yep I said that you're definitely going to have masculine 1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:17.280 men that we're just in a level of masculinity that 1:02:17.320 --> 1:02:19.520 we don't see in the party right now. 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:21.960 It's going to get people out on November fifth, and 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:24.560 we can't mess up the strategy. So I don't really 1:02:24.640 --> 1:02:27.640 think his message was all that bad. To be honest, 1:02:27.800 --> 1:02:30.560 I see people responding to it. I think the strategy 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:32.880 of it right now may not get. 1:02:32.720 --> 1:02:33.919 The impact that well. 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:36.800 Just to be clear again, there's a targeting that is 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:40.400 happening of black men on social media, and people need 1:02:40.440 --> 1:02:43.640 to know that so that when you feel this risceral 1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:46.240 reaction to things, you need to know like, why did 1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:46.840 I see this? 1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:47.480 Right? 1:02:47.480 --> 1:02:48.000 That's true. 1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:49.800 And the reason why I'm saying that is. 1:02:49.720 --> 1:02:53.160 Because I saw a clip that I forwarded to a 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:56.280 number of brothers that I saw in your I wouldn't 1:02:56.280 --> 1:02:59.080 go on in your Wow wild West comments section, but 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:01.360 I saw some of our brothers in there trying to 1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:06.680 explain to you why Obama's comments were harmful or how 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:07.560 they made people feel. 1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:07.680 Me. 1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:12.640 He was talking to Republicans tear them up, and people 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:14.800 were like, we never heard him say that. He was saying, 1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:17.760 you know, when did this become okay. Again, he was 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:21.760 speaking to some Republicans, different time, same couple of days 1:03:21.760 --> 1:03:25.120 that he's outside talking to white folk, and he's like, 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:31.480 when was it okay for lies? And you know, people 1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:33.920 are telling you over and over again the things you're saying, 1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:37.160 it's untrue, it's been proven, and they're still lying. 1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:39.840 When is it was that okay? 1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:42.400 I understand that there are people out here who don't 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:45.280 agree with me, they never agreed with Obama, but now 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:49.479 you've got a liar who's out here parroting hate. When 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:52.760 was that okay for you? As a Republican? Answered that 1:03:52.840 --> 1:03:55.320 for me? Like the way he was speaking, he never 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:59.280 he never, he's never done that, but I just I've 1:03:59.280 --> 1:04:01.560 never heard him do right. It was a tone that 1:04:01.640 --> 1:04:04.480 he had. He wasn't all crazy and you know, speaking 1:04:04.600 --> 1:04:05.720 like you and me, but. 1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:08.400 He still was. 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:12.480 Making a very powerful point that people have not heard 1:04:12.560 --> 1:04:15.080 him this way. And it's in the comments section. Folks 1:04:15.120 --> 1:04:18.760 like Obama's piss right, even Michelle she was off the 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:21.760 chain at the DNC, so you clearly you know that 1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:23.680 they have an energy about them. But this is what 1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:25.960 I just want to say. I think the problem with 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:30.680 President Obama is not what he said. It's not who 1:04:30.680 --> 1:04:33.200 he was even talking to. I think the problem is 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:37.440 that when people do not see you in their community 1:04:38.240 --> 1:04:41.080 until you come to chastise them about something that they're 1:04:41.120 --> 1:04:43.680 doing wrong. Like all of a sudden, it's election time 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:45.840 and everybody's out here talking about misogyny and this, that 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:47.760 and the third misogyny been going on. 1:04:48.160 --> 1:04:49.960 But I don't agree with that. That man was in 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:51.760 the White House for eight years and he dealt with that. 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:54.280 They called them tall baby, they called his wife a man, 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:55.920 They disrespected. 1:04:55.280 --> 1:04:57.640 His children, they and those are things that happen too. 1:04:57.800 --> 1:04:59.800 So I'm trying to explain to you, for eight years, 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:02.600 he earned the right to be able to come and say, okay, 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:05.919 so how do you, as a black man, allow this 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:08.560 man to disrespect you and then you say you're gonna 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:11.280 support him. I think after a dealing with he deal 1:05:11.320 --> 1:05:12.400 with he has the right to. 1:05:12.680 --> 1:05:14.560 I'm not saying I disagree with what he said. 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:17.440 What I'm telling you is that if Jimiani, when you 1:05:17.480 --> 1:05:19.080 asked Jimny, what would he say? 1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:20.919 Right? Well, I respect what he said. 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:26.040 What I'm saying is the reason why more black men 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:30.200 or black people might listen to you, and what you're 1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:34.000 saying is because you're touchable, you're reachable to them. So 1:05:34.040 --> 1:05:38.040 they feel like when you say things, you're not talking down. 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:45.040 Because they don't see Jimny. This is the truth. We 1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:46.000 outside all the time. 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:49.520 I don't see him hereabout me. 1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:52.360 Listen to me. I'm on the internet. I'm outside every day. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:55.040 I'm in the community. You ain't outside, well, you won't 1:05:55.080 --> 1:05:56.600 do nothing in your community. I'll be like, what are 1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:59.600 you even talking about? The internet will make up a story. 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:00.919 We want to be. 1:06:00.800 --> 1:06:04.640 Careful about how much we're asking about leaders all the time. 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:06.760 Sometimes we're asking a lot more than other people. 1:06:07.480 --> 1:06:09.280 I'm not saying that he has to do it all. 1:06:09.440 --> 1:06:12.600 I'm just saying I'm saying if it were me and 1:06:12.680 --> 1:06:14.840 I was putting him in that space, I wouldn't have 1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:17.720 put him in there with cameras. I would put him 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:22.960 on the road before today to not thirty day, six, 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:26.439 twenty day, whatever the days are. I'm saying that this 1:06:26.640 --> 1:06:30.960 problem has been an issue, and so therefore it. 1:06:30.920 --> 1:06:32.440 Was a part of Hillary. I'm not a Hillary fan, 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:32.920 but it was a. 1:06:32.840 --> 1:06:33.640 Part of it, right. 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:36.640 So what I'm saying is I'm not I am not 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:38.959 saying that the president. I don't think he said one 1:06:39.040 --> 1:06:42.560 thing wrong. I'm saying that the strategy has to be 1:06:42.840 --> 1:06:46.480 that we cannot wait until days before the election to 1:06:46.680 --> 1:06:49.600 go out and do that work. Maybe he is not 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:53.040 going to be, like you said, moving around everywhere all 1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:56.640 the time, every day, but he certainly can have ballrooms 1:06:56.680 --> 1:07:00.920 of men that he's talking to twice a year that 1:07:00.960 --> 1:07:04.960 we can see, you know, him being he can do that. 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:07.680 When you're saying these things. 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:09.760 We have to have we have to have a conversation 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:12.600 with empathy of why the person is feeling that way. 1:07:12.720 --> 1:07:13.760 And I think that would help. 1:07:14.600 --> 1:07:15.560 I gotta add that. 1:07:15.640 --> 1:07:16.640 You got to add the look. 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:19.800 I understand why you feelings, but here's what the issues, 1:07:19.840 --> 1:07:23.440 because when you ignore the pain and the trauma, then 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:25.560 you're not going to get through the person. And right 1:07:25.560 --> 1:07:27.680 now we really just coming in hot. 1:07:28.120 --> 1:07:30.520 I don't know that that's my point. 1:07:30.280 --> 1:07:32.560 I think that's what I'm trying to say. I'm saying 1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:33.200 that there's. 1:07:32.960 --> 1:07:36.400 Some work that you have to do before you are 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:40.120 at the point of telling somebody what they're doing wrong. 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:43.120 There's some other work that has to happen so that 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:46.880 people are able to accept it a little bit better. 1:07:47.080 --> 1:07:49.040 Right And I know what you're saying. My song some 1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:50.880 people it doesn't matter. I just want to say one 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:54.880 thing because you got to go. So we're talking about 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:58.400 her being a woman, Kamala Harris being a woman in 1:07:58.400 --> 1:08:03.320 the misogyny right, But you also have a disability. 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:05.200 That you talk about publicly. 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:10.080 I wonder if you feel like you also, as a man, 1:08:10.160 --> 1:08:15.040 even though you're a man dealing with trying to do 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.880 your job and also to rise in your political career, 1:08:19.479 --> 1:08:25.960 that disability is as harmful even as a man, as 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:29.280 a woman trying to run for office and increase her 1:08:29.720 --> 1:08:31.400 or grow in her political career. 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:35.000 I think everything is intersectional. So I think if you're 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:37.880 running as a black person, you're gonna have some problems. 1:08:37.920 --> 1:08:40.080 If you're adding a black woman, you gonna have some problems. 1:08:40.080 --> 1:08:43.479 If you're adding with a disability, you're gonna have some problems. Thankfully, 1:08:43.479 --> 1:08:46.760 I was raised by a pretty strong black woman, Like 1:08:46.800 --> 1:08:49.120 there was just no real excuses whatever was going on. 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:52.160 So that actually has some negatives to us another conversation. 1:08:52.280 --> 1:08:55.200 But I think on balance and have some positives or 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:58.320 help you navigate through life. So yes, you know, my 1:08:58.360 --> 1:09:01.080 most interesting times if I'm on box, like all. 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:02.799 Kinds of stuff that people say. 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:04.160 Who's crazy? After a fox. 1:09:04.200 --> 1:09:06.599 But yeah, I mean the disability that the terrest syndrome 1:09:06.640 --> 1:09:09.439 and whatnot is is a thing, so I can't it's not. 1:09:09.680 --> 1:09:12.240 But it's also helped and inspire folks in a way 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:15.000 that I would never imagine. There's people who've run for 1:09:15.080 --> 1:09:17.559 office literally because they saw me run like that. That 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:20.120 gets me an emotion when I think about it, like 1:09:20.160 --> 1:09:22.680 it's crazy that you saw me do something and now 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:24.920 literally told me I didn't know I have to rest 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:27.559 and run. I ran because I saw you. That's some 1:09:27.800 --> 1:09:29.120 mind boggling and mind. 1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:32.479 I'm not going to listen. 1:09:33.360 --> 1:09:36.559 Present president might have The President is gonna have to 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:40.400 reds you. That's what I'm saying. 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:43.479 Happen and you're getting out of here. 1:09:43.600 --> 1:09:44.200 We just want to. 1:09:45.800 --> 1:09:47.080 New York City politics. 1:09:47.080 --> 1:09:50.840 But that's okay because you need to stay low and 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:51.920 stay back. 1:09:52.200 --> 1:09:54.880 Asking the question if the time comes, are you prepared 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:55.599 to be the mayor? 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:58.280 You have to be prepared to be to be public advocate. 1:09:58.439 --> 1:10:02.559 So in every scenario someone becomes public advocate, you have 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:03.920 to be prepared in case something happens. 1:10:04.360 --> 1:10:06.280 It's not something that you want because that means something bad. 1:10:06.360 --> 1:10:06.519 Man. 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:09.680 But I'm more than prepared to make sure, the continuenty 1:10:09.720 --> 1:10:14.519 government continues, people's trash gets picked up. That now eleven 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:16.880 gets answered, through eleven gets answered. That's what people really 1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:20.760 want to hear. But with that, you know, people, there's 1:10:20.800 --> 1:10:24.400 two separate conversations. One is the mayor has a presumption 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:29.160 of innocence, has a right to vigorously be defended. There's 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:32.360 a separate question of whether you can hold that weight 1:10:32.960 --> 1:10:35.640 and be able to govern the city the way it 1:10:35.640 --> 1:10:40.400 needs to be governed. And criminality, aside the judgments that 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:43.200 was made on the things that we all agree happened, 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:46.640 is also criminality. Not another separate conversation, and those are 1:10:46.640 --> 1:10:47.920 real conversations. 1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:55.360 Shout out to our public advocate, Jiminy William. 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:58.160 You know, I think we could have probably talked to 1:10:58.240 --> 1:11:00.320 your money a little bit more all. 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:02.400 Night because I had some stuff to say. 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:05.240 Yeah, I mean I kind of felt I mean, I 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:10.400 don't know. I feel like we're all trying to do 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:14.880 and say what is best in this moment. Because He's right, 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:18.640 like everything you say, people are going to use as 1:11:18.720 --> 1:11:22.080 a reason to either feel inspired, which is what we want, 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:24.360 or to feel like this is an excuse for me 1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:27.120 not to go do what I need to do on 1:11:27.200 --> 1:11:30.920 November fifth or beforehand. So I can feel that tension, 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:33.080 like he's like, my team is telling me to be 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:36.080 careful because you're talking about tearing the whole thing down. 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:38.360 There's some people who will try to use that as 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:39.800 a way to be like, well. 1:11:40.680 --> 1:11:43.040 I get it. I just think for me that we're 1:11:43.040 --> 1:11:46.320 in the time we didn't. Like I said it the 1:11:46.360 --> 1:11:49.519 other day, like they gotta be lines drawn in the sand, right, 1:11:49.560 --> 1:11:52.599 and in trying to make people like you that don't 1:11:52.680 --> 1:11:55.200 like you, it's never worked for nobody. It just has 1:11:55.280 --> 1:12:01.080 never worked. And some people like today Kamala released you know, 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:05.400 agenda for black men, right, and before they said, what 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:08.320 is her policies? Right? What are the tangibles? What is 1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:10.360 she offering the black man? And then these same people 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:14.600 still have excuses, so it's like they're not looking for 1:12:15.120 --> 1:12:18.599 anything that can change their mind. They're just going to 1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:22.040 be contrary about everything. And you have to understand that 1:12:22.040 --> 1:12:24.040 there are certain people like there are I believe there 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:28.439 are a demographic of men or people who generally just 1:12:28.600 --> 1:12:30.720 want to make sure the policies fit them, that they 1:12:30.760 --> 1:12:33.800 are is an agenda, there's tangibles. They feel like, you know, 1:12:33.840 --> 1:12:36.240 the Democratic Party has left us out and haven't given 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:39.080 us tangibles. But then I think there's people that just 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:42.439 want to be anti right. So when I'm listening to 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:44.800 the majority of people that we are in conflict with 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:49.320 from from my perspective, there's one or two people here 1:12:49.400 --> 1:12:51.519 or there that they were like, well, I don't I 1:12:51.520 --> 1:12:53.680 don't know agree with this, and I don't agree with this, 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:56.000 and they have certain points, and when you have conversations, 1:12:56.080 --> 1:12:58.240 there's a dialogue back and forth, even if we agree 1:12:58.280 --> 1:13:02.600 to disagree. They're listening to facts, right, They're giving you 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:05.559 their opinion, but they're not trying to deny facts. When 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:09.040 people are denying facts because they just want to be 1:13:09.280 --> 1:13:11.559 contrary to something, I don't have the time for that 1:13:11.640 --> 1:13:13.840 type of dollarge. And those type of people I don't 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:16.880 even I know they're not gonna be with me, right, 1:13:16.920 --> 1:13:19.559 So I don't have the energy or I'm not even 1:13:19.640 --> 1:13:21.720 trying to push you to be with me. I'm just 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:24.240 gonna grab the people that's with me and continue to 1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:25.800 build with them. And that's what we have to do 1:13:25.840 --> 1:13:28.320 in this moment. I think there's some people that's too far, 1:13:28.439 --> 1:13:30.479 and a lot of them don't vote anyway. They just 1:13:30.560 --> 1:13:33.559 want to. They literally just come to the internet just 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:36.480 to get any type of energy in conversation. 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:38.920 But there's some people that are going to vote this 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:42.160 particular time, even if they've never done it before, just 1:13:42.200 --> 1:13:49.679 to be able to satisfy their need to inflict some 1:13:49.760 --> 1:13:53.120 type of like pain on a woman. Like there are 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:56.200 people who never voted before and now they're gonna get 1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:58.120 up and be like, oh, I'm gonna do it this 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:00.320 time and a lot of time. You know, we didn't 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:02.559 get a chance to talk about the trauma that is 1:14:02.840 --> 1:14:07.400 well he Jimani did touch on it, but the uh, 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:12.400 there is a trauma associated with some people who have 1:14:12.520 --> 1:14:16.840 experienced negative of who have had negative experiences with their mother, 1:14:17.640 --> 1:14:19.839 right pain from their mother, pain. 1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:21.080 From a woman that hurt them. 1:14:21.439 --> 1:14:23.920 You know, I talk about my experience as a woman, 1:14:23.960 --> 1:14:25.840 I've been hurt by black men, and I'm not talking 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:26.960 about he broke my heart. 1:14:27.080 --> 1:14:30.160 That's not what I'm talking about. I got other stuff. 1:14:29.840 --> 1:14:32.000 That we won't even get into today, because the last 1:14:32.040 --> 1:14:33.719 thing I want is people out there like, oh, Tamika 1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:35.439 is poling on and now she want to talk about 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:39.160 these terrible, horrific incidents. But I'm not talking about he 1:14:39.240 --> 1:14:42.400 broke my heart. He was my boyfriend and he slept 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:44.400 with somebody else, or he decided he didn't want to 1:14:44.439 --> 1:14:46.280 be with me anymore. That's cool, but that's not what 1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:49.559 I'm talking about. I'm telling my real serious harm that 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:51.559 has been done to me. But there's black men that 1:14:51.680 --> 1:14:53.360 experienced that with black women as well. 1:14:53.680 --> 1:14:53.840 Right. 1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:55.680 My mother used to tell me all the time. And 1:14:55.720 --> 1:14:57.559 here I am saying some stuff I ain't supposed to say. 1:14:57.560 --> 1:14:59.280 But my mother used to tell me all the time 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:05.920 that when she used to be like, don't I don't 1:15:05.960 --> 1:15:08.679 like that babysitter, don't leave to rake far, I don't 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:10.000 like the way she looks, I don't like the way 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:12.200 she dressed in the house with him. And I'm like, 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:15.040 it's a woman. And I remember my mother saying to me, 1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:18.759 y'all are confused. If you think that only men harm 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:24.040 children or little girls, boys are harmed by women as well. 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:29.320 So some of our brothers have experiences with women, and 1:15:29.520 --> 1:15:31.800 every time they get with a new woman or have 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:34.920 an opportunity or in space with the woman, they want 1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:39.160 to repay or take out on this woman what they've 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:42.200 gone through. And it still it just feels like black 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:47.840 people need a hug together, like we need a big 1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:51.440 universal hug because of the pain that we're experiencing. 1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:52.760 I agree, or we have. 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:54.439 Experience, I agree. I agree that we got to give 1:15:54.439 --> 1:15:56.800 each other grace, you know, and we have to love 1:15:56.800 --> 1:16:00.600 each other. And that's why are open up every I 1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:02.760 said that I love my brothers, and I want you 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:06.599 to understand that. So even when I'm I'm pulling you up, right, 1:16:06.640 --> 1:16:09.960 it's not it's not cancel culture. It's counsel culture. Right. 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:11.479 I don't want to call you out and want to 1:16:11.520 --> 1:16:13.920 call you in, you know, because when I see something 1:16:13.960 --> 1:16:16.680 that's wrong, but we can't ignore that it's wrong. And 1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:18.960 that's that was my whole point with Obama. And I 1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:21.040 hear what everybody says, you know, in this time, it's 1:16:21.080 --> 1:16:24.160 just but I'm looking at from the lens that that 1:16:24.320 --> 1:16:26.080 man is looking and he's saying, damn. I was in 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:28.720 the White House House for eight years and y'all didn't 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:31.080 see what they did to me. They try to publicly 1:16:31.200 --> 1:16:35.040 lynch me. They discredited me on everything, they went against 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:37.799 everything I did. They called me out of my names, 1:16:37.840 --> 1:16:40.479 and I still walked with my head up and I 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:43.920 still represent us properly. And for me, to leave this 1:16:43.960 --> 1:16:47.519 White House right with one of one of the best 1:16:47.520 --> 1:16:50.880 approval ratings in history. And then y'all tell me you're 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:53.360 gonna vote a man that had the worst appool weight 1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:56.680 in the history back in office, that disrespects you, that 1:16:56.800 --> 1:16:59.200 disrespects you, and you tell me that you are going 1:16:59.240 --> 1:17:03.679 to promote empower that like, that's like a slapping that 1:17:03.680 --> 1:17:06.040 that that gotta hurt your soul because I know that 1:17:06.160 --> 1:17:08.040 me being on the front lines every day fighting for 1:17:08.120 --> 1:17:10.360 black men, fighting for black women, fighting for black people, 1:17:10.600 --> 1:17:14.679 and seeing them come attack me for a white supremacists, 1:17:14.439 --> 1:17:17.000 is it hurts. I know. He goes to his Instagram 1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:19.639 page too, and he sees hundreds if not that because 1:17:19.680 --> 1:17:23.120 he got millions and see hundreds of thousand people attacking 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:26.080 him telling them that this present is better, and it's 1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:28.400 it's it's like a slap in the face. That's why 1:17:28.439 --> 1:17:31.240 when you hear them speaking, when you hear Michelle, she like, 1:17:31.280 --> 1:17:33.880 we done went through all this. We know, like we 1:17:34.280 --> 1:17:37.519 get all it. We we tie to the bullshit, you 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:39.519 know what I'm saying, And it's and we were and 1:17:39.560 --> 1:17:44.760 we're not understanding just how detrimental it is this rhetoric is. 1:17:44.760 --> 1:17:47.920 We're not understanding just how serious the times we are in. 1:17:48.160 --> 1:17:50.640 And I think he understands this seriousness that he he 1:17:50.680 --> 1:17:53.320 ain't coming out here just to be the good Hey, 1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:56.479 you know we go loaded. They not with that no 1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:59.000 more because they realized we had a whole different time. 1:17:59.000 --> 1:18:02.120 You're talking about somebody to rewrite the constitution, somebody that 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:05.920 wants to utilize the military to impose its will on 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:07.880 the people, like this shit is not a joke, that's 1:18:07.920 --> 1:18:10.519 not a game, because you want to prove like this 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:13.519 is serious, this is not okay, you know what I'm saying. 1:18:13.520 --> 1:18:16.080 So I think when when you come from that lens, 1:18:16.360 --> 1:18:19.080 when you when you that's what I identify. I don't identify 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:21.479 with the politically correct, because that's what we're told about 1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:24.160 politically correct. You know, you got to say this to that. 1:18:24.520 --> 1:18:28.080 I played basketball my whole life. My coaches they didn't. 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:31.400 They wasn't the politically correct. They were saying, you ain't 1:18:31.439 --> 1:18:34.640 doing shit on that court. He's busting your ass and 1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:37.000 if you don't do something, he gonna they gonna, you 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.320 gonna lose. I'm not here to baby you. You're a 1:18:39.400 --> 1:18:42.439 grown man. You seventeen eighteen, you're gonna be a man, 1:18:42.720 --> 1:18:45.280 and in real life, that's how I survived. I was 1:18:45.280 --> 1:18:48.080 in prison with other men that if I was baby, 1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:49.840 then somebody said it there wrong with them. They would 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:52.280 have took advantage of me, they would extorted me, they 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:54.400 would have did what they wanted to me. But I 1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.599 I was I had the level of love where men 1:18:57.680 --> 1:18:59.840 talk to me like men and they treated me like 1:18:59.840 --> 1:19:02.920 a So I was able to survive in any situation. 1:19:03.360 --> 1:19:05.879 But I think that's the I think that's the problem, 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:10.760 is that the survival factor has been is tearing at 1:19:10.800 --> 1:19:17.920 the fabric of our community and also of yeap of 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:21.920 us individually and collectively. Because what I came in here 1:19:22.040 --> 1:19:24.880 saying today and what's been on my heart since this, 1:19:25.000 --> 1:19:26.680 I woke up this morning with it, I went to 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:29.160 bed with it. I went to bed sending a clip 1:19:29.200 --> 1:19:33.160 of Simone Sanders Show where she was on with Michael 1:19:33.160 --> 1:19:35.640 Steele and another woman that I can't remember what her 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:38.760 name is. And in this clip, I didn't even send 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:40.960 it to any men. I just sent it to all women. 1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:45.240 And in this clip it said it was about Ron 1:19:45.280 --> 1:19:56.400 DeSantis in Florida wanting to arrest people from radio stations. 1:19:54.760 --> 1:20:01.519 That allowed or that are playing political ad. 1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:07.559 That to vote against repealing abortion right. And then so 1:20:07.680 --> 1:20:09.960 a woman who's sitting up there telling her story and 1:20:10.000 --> 1:20:12.719 the ad about how she was gonna lose. She would 1:20:12.760 --> 1:20:16.120 lose her life, the baby would die, and obviously she 1:20:16.120 --> 1:20:18.040 wouldn't be able to take care of her daughter anymore 1:20:18.080 --> 1:20:21.919 if she did not enter pregnancy. And how in Florida, 1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:25.000 the more the restrictive the laws have become restrictive, she 1:20:25.240 --> 1:20:27.839 can't actually, she would not be able to get an abortion. 1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:32.600 And I've sent it to some women that I know 1:20:32.800 --> 1:20:34.639 are like, either they're not going to vote at all, 1:20:34.680 --> 1:20:36.920 they're frustrated or whatever, because there's a lot of women 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:43.559 that also don't like other women leaders just don't. And 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:45.680 when I sent it out, my thing was, Trump is 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:48.000 nothing that you played with. This is not a joke. 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:48.360 Right. 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:51.200 So when I came in here today, I walked in 1:20:51.240 --> 1:20:54.920 here saying to you, now, I'm starting to think about myself. 1:20:55.360 --> 1:20:59.720 I have been as an activist, as a leader. My 1:21:00.240 --> 1:21:05.320 entire life has been about fighting for other people, fighting 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:08.920 for other people and for the majority until we at 1:21:09.000 --> 1:21:14.639 until freedom, became very intentional about working on cases for 1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:19.320 black women. At one point I was doing most of 1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:23.400 my work probably ninety five percent of it for black men. 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:26.840 And all of a sudden, after this weekend, the things 1:21:26.880 --> 1:21:30.120 that I've watched, the things I've been seeing, the things 1:21:30.120 --> 1:21:32.720 I've been hearing, the conversations that I've been having. I 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:36.320 walked in here feeling like I need to think about 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:40.400 myself and my own survival. And I feel like so 1:21:40.560 --> 1:21:43.040 many of the brothers that I hear are saying the 1:21:43.120 --> 1:21:48.080 same thing. And that is because white supremacy has caused 1:21:48.840 --> 1:21:52.200 a situation where people just trying to survive. They just 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:56.160 trying to figure out how can I I'm tired. You 1:21:56.840 --> 1:21:58.400 don't want me to go to prison. This is the 1:21:58.400 --> 1:22:01.840 way I try to think this through. I'm a black man, 1:22:02.040 --> 1:22:03.880 you telling me, don't go to prison, don't do this, 1:22:03.920 --> 1:22:04.400 don't do that. 1:22:04.439 --> 1:22:07.560 But then everywhere I go to work, everything. 1:22:07.160 --> 1:22:09.280 That I try to do to be on the come up, 1:22:09.600 --> 1:22:13.400 people are beating me down, mistreating me, you know, talking 1:22:13.439 --> 1:22:16.439 to me crazy. I see so many black men saying like, damn, 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:16.920 you know, you. 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:17.519 Go to work. 1:22:17.560 --> 1:22:20.960 You got whoever your boss is, white man, black person, 1:22:21.000 --> 1:22:24.200 whoever it is mistreating you, talking to you crazy, making 1:22:24.240 --> 1:22:25.679 you feel lessing yourself. 1:22:25.680 --> 1:22:27.960 You go home. You're dealing with the same things. 1:22:28.040 --> 1:22:30.519 So after a while, I think everybody is getting in 1:22:30.560 --> 1:22:35.679 their survival bag and you are still you and others 1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:39.120 are still trying to think about what is this going 1:22:39.200 --> 1:22:40.360 to mean for all of us? 1:22:40.760 --> 1:22:43.519 Right? And I think that's where the conflict is coming from. 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:46.640 And we have to be able to acknowledge that we 1:22:46.760 --> 1:22:48.600 did not create these circumstances. 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:49.919 We're trying to live within. 1:22:49.760 --> 1:22:52.720 Them, right, Like I would imagine that people they hear 1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:55.040 me say, black women are not even in the pulpit 1:22:55.080 --> 1:22:57.840 in many churches, right, can't even preach on Sundays. They 1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:01.719 can only do announce meant and maybe read a scripture. 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:04.360 And sometimes that has to be done from down down 1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:06.680 on the floor of the church. It can't even be 1:23:06.800 --> 1:23:10.639 up in the pulpit. That is actually policy in some 1:23:10.720 --> 1:23:14.680 denominations in their churches, right. And I would imagine that 1:23:14.800 --> 1:23:17.080 in their mind it gave the men power. 1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:20.880 It gave the men power. Right, when you ain't got 1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:22.640 power nowhere else, then what can you What do you 1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:22.840 have to do? 1:23:22.920 --> 1:23:26.920 You have to create social constructs within your own community 1:23:26.960 --> 1:23:27.880 that gives you power. 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:30.400 And I think people and their handmaids. 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:34.160 Tell mindset believe that if Donald Trump becomes president, then 1:23:34.200 --> 1:23:35.479 they have access to power. 1:23:35.640 --> 1:23:38.640 It's a dangerous thing. I just think you don't get it. 1:23:39.120 --> 1:23:41.680 I don't get it at all. And that's what I 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:44.120 don't get. I don't get the mind state that makes 1:23:44.160 --> 1:23:44.719 you believe. 1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:47.160 But you do get it because I just explained it 1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:47.360 to you. 1:23:47.720 --> 1:23:49.800 I still don't get it. Like I hear what you're saying, 1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:52.800 But I don't understand how you think that that man 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:57.200 helps your survival because everything he is about is anti us. 1:23:57.439 --> 1:24:00.439 So how do you think that you think that when 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.599 he talks about all of these things he gonna do 1:24:03.200 --> 1:24:07.000 and that they're gonna positively affect you as a black man. 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:09.599 But that's what they thought in the Handmaids Tell. 1:24:10.040 --> 1:24:13.320 See in Handmaids Tell, what you said you watched in 1:24:13.400 --> 1:24:14.280 Handmaids Tell. 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:16.559 That's what they believed, my son. 1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:21.000 The black men sided with them white men because they 1:24:21.000 --> 1:24:22.480 felt like, Okay, you're gonna. 1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:24.559 Put me on the chain of power. 1:24:25.160 --> 1:24:28.439 The white women agreed to it because they believe that 1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:30.840 if their husbands were in power and put them in 1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:33.559 a position of power that some you know, that would 1:24:33.560 --> 1:24:37.439 elevate them right, and then there would be a bottom class. 1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:40.840 So that is what people think. It's not they think 1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:42.960 in their mind. Yet I know the white women knew 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:45.400 that they were not being told they were gonna be equals. 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:47.960 Well, I don't understand how black men accept it. I 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:50.479 don't un that's what That's what I don't get. I 1:24:50.479 --> 1:24:56.000 don't understand how black men have accepted that somebody believes 1:24:56.040 --> 1:24:58.880 that they're better than you. Right, I don't understand how 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:02.360 you look at the dynamic, how how there's the thing. 1:25:02.680 --> 1:25:04.600 Every time I think about this shit, it reminds me 1:25:04.640 --> 1:25:07.920 of the djingle. I see Trump on the stage and 1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:12.200 I see Tim Scott, and Trump is telling Tim Scott 1:25:12.479 --> 1:25:15.280 about the I think it's the governor. 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:18.400 Who who Mark Crop or the man who's trying to 1:25:18.400 --> 1:25:19.000 be govern. 1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:22.120 No, the person who nominated him to be senator, like 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:24.400 she chose him as a lady. She chose. He said, well, 1:25:24.720 --> 1:25:27.080 she's not gonna feel too good. You know that you're 1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:30.120 with me and she the one that got you in office. 1:25:30.360 --> 1:25:34.760 And he said, I just love you, I just love you, 1:25:35.200 --> 1:25:38.080 and he just looked at him. So every time I 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:41.680 think about Donald Trump and I think about the relationship 1:25:41.720 --> 1:25:45.080 to black man, I think about the scene from the Djengle, right, 1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:48.439 and I think about him on the stage with Senator 1:25:48.479 --> 1:25:54.479 Tim Scott, and Trump is telling Tim Scott about Nicki Haley. 1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:57.479 You know, he's saying, you know, she's not gonna be 1:25:57.479 --> 1:26:01.000 too happy that you're endorsing me, especially you're from her state, 1:26:01.240 --> 1:26:03.559 and she's probably a person that endorsed you or whatever. 1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.120 And he walks up to the side of him and 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:08.720 he just looks at him. He said, I just love you, 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:10.560 and he might as well said boss. He might have 1:26:10.640 --> 1:26:12.960 said boss. He said, I just love you. I just 1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:15.960 love you. And Trump looks at him like a peasant, 1:26:16.200 --> 1:26:18.960 and he just walks off to the side. And this 1:26:19.040 --> 1:26:22.160 is and when I every time I see that vision 1:26:22.200 --> 1:26:24.960 in my head, I say to myself, how do black 1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:27.880 men look at that and feel in powered? How don't 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.920 you feel disrespected? How doesn't that bother you? How doesn't 1:26:30.960 --> 1:26:33.360 that make your blood boil you? When you know he said? 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:36.760 And then the clip that I posted today, I love 1:26:36.800 --> 1:26:39.400 the black men, black men, black men, I love you, 1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:42.920 they love me this and that, And it's like he 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:45.880 just mocks you. He talks about you in a way 1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:48.960 that's less than it every time he can, and y'all 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:52.240 still trying to promote him, and it's like embarrassing and 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:55.400 So for me, it's like, you're not offended by that, 1:26:56.520 --> 1:27:00.800 but it offends you that Obama could say, why would 1:27:00.840 --> 1:27:03.800 you let that man disrespect you and still support that 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:05.720 made you feel like he was talking down to you, 1:27:06.080 --> 1:27:08.639 But it don't make you feel down when every city 1:27:08.680 --> 1:27:09.680 that black people. 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:12.600 And he could tell you, oh, you identify with me 1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:14.320 because of my mugshot, because he's. 1:27:14.280 --> 1:27:18.320 Reducing, deducing when he's sneakers. You want to give you 1:27:18.320 --> 1:27:20.520 a platinum that don't bother you. 1:27:20.600 --> 1:27:21.200 And that's the thing. 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:23.719 That's the thing, my son, that I have a real 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:27.280 problem with with some of our people. I noticed that 1:27:27.320 --> 1:27:29.639 they always got some kind of smoke for a woman 1:27:30.120 --> 1:27:32.760 they post about her, but they don't they don't know 1:27:32.800 --> 1:27:34.400 where to find the clips. 1:27:35.080 --> 1:27:37.040 And that's and that's another thing. And I'm gonna end 1:27:37.120 --> 1:27:39.400 in and I'm ended here, and this is this pretty 1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:40.920 much ended. This is what I don't get. I don't 1:27:40.920 --> 1:27:45.400 get how men that we cold and high regard, that 1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:48.960 have supposed to have, you know, love for our people, 1:27:49.240 --> 1:27:52.240 like Lord Jamal and Judge Joe Brown could call that 1:27:52.280 --> 1:27:55.400 woman out her name merely for running for president because 1:27:55.439 --> 1:27:57.960 you might agree with her, you know her politics, But 1:27:58.240 --> 1:28:01.200 why call that woman on her name. Hearing doctor Umar 1:28:01.400 --> 1:28:03.800 just talk about her in a manner that we don't 1:28:03.800 --> 1:28:05.240 have to vote for her, and she ain't do this, 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:09.280 and and she's a a Tom or some whatever he say. 1:28:09.320 --> 1:28:12.840 He called us some name or tom or something. It's like, why, why, why, 1:28:12.880 --> 1:28:16.040 why do you feel that much vitriol for a woman 1:28:16.120 --> 1:28:18.759 just for running for president? And these are Black people 1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:22.000 that that have some level of esteem in our community. 1:28:22.400 --> 1:28:26.200 And it's like, I understand how you feel. Understand why 1:28:26.240 --> 1:28:29.679 women don't feel protected, because I wouldn't either. I would 1:28:29.800 --> 1:28:32.360 not feel protected if I heard men that I want 1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:36.120 respected and held in high regard speaking on women like 1:28:36.160 --> 1:28:36.679 black women. 1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:39.160 And I think it's women in general. 1:28:39.000 --> 1:28:44.000 Just exactly you Black hurts me because it's a black 1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:46.519 person you and they're supposed to be a level of 1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:49.240 brother and sisterhood that you know, people tell me that 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:51.559 we're not supposed to expect that the whing in this 1:28:51.680 --> 1:28:54.400 era as a black person, we should not expect brother 1:28:54.439 --> 1:28:58.120 and sisterhood everybody else does, every other culture does for 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:01.080 black people. We are not of my lists and all 1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:03.840 skin for all these all of the words and that 1:29:04.000 --> 1:29:06.439 you know, the trendy words that they use to just 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:09.680 keep us disconnected. We utilize them all for ourselves no more. 1:29:09.720 --> 1:29:12.280 We don't even let them say it now. We utilize 1:29:12.320 --> 1:29:15.960 all of these trendy words. So it really bothers me 1:29:16.439 --> 1:29:18.960 when I see this level of disconnect, and I'm going 1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:21.400 to keep speaking about it, and I want us to 1:29:21.439 --> 1:29:23.240 fix it. I'm going to speak about it because I 1:29:23.280 --> 1:29:25.160 want us to fix it. There's no way that you 1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:28.080 and other women that we love and respect should not 1:29:28.200 --> 1:29:31.719 feel valued and I should not feel protected by us. 1:29:33.000 --> 1:29:33.880 Well, there's that. 1:29:34.200 --> 1:29:37.439 I mean, I appreciate it. I think it's just important. 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:41.439 It's all the truth. And with this platform, I have 1:29:41.560 --> 1:29:45.519 no choice but to say the truth. And I and 1:29:45.560 --> 1:29:47.720 I know what the conversations are that I'm having with 1:29:47.760 --> 1:29:52.559 other black women. They tell me, girl, my man is 1:29:52.600 --> 1:29:55.960 a good man, because this is not about one on 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:59.240 one relationships, right, this is not about that my father 1:29:59.360 --> 1:30:01.839 is the best man in the world. I'm well protected. 1:30:01.880 --> 1:30:04.639 I'm well protected by my unto a freedom family. I'm 1:30:04.640 --> 1:30:06.960 well protected by all of that. But that's not the 1:30:07.000 --> 1:30:12.720 protection I'm talking about. I'm talking about culture. Culture, a 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:20.840 culture of misogyny that allows women to be abused, disrespected, degraded, 1:30:21.080 --> 1:30:25.320 and we have to put on a masculine armor to 1:30:25.479 --> 1:30:28.720 fight for and defend ourselves because we do not. 1:30:28.880 --> 1:30:30.840 You know, like I said, I got women. That's te 1:30:30.920 --> 1:30:31.360 let me girl. 1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:34.880 My husband is a great husband, but or not, but 1:30:35.080 --> 1:30:37.160 because their husband is a great husband. So that's not 1:30:37.200 --> 1:30:40.600 what I'm talking about. When I'm on social media, or 1:30:40.680 --> 1:30:43.240 when I'm out talking to other men, or when I'm 1:30:43.280 --> 1:30:45.160 on my job, or when I'm at school and I 1:30:45.240 --> 1:30:48.759 listen to the way these men speak, I'm scared. I'm afraid, 1:30:49.479 --> 1:30:50.679 and that's a scary thing. 1:30:53.920 --> 1:30:56.400 We sure do. 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