Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come
Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own
Speaker 1: presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.
Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? Welcome to
Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Winecker. I hope you're
Speaker 2: doing fine. I hope you're not doing anything stupid of
Speaker 2: you know, when you're less to this podcast, you're ultimately
Speaker 2: an ambassador of the podcast, and I don't need you
Speaker 2: embarrassing me. What else is going on? I'm having an
Speaker 2: incredible morning, as you can just probably tell from my energy,
Speaker 2: celebrating three weeks of having low windshield wiper fluid, and
Speaker 2: that actually I was thinking earlier of when I was
Speaker 2: alerted by my car. The car should tell you that
Speaker 2: when you stop the car, rather than when you start
Speaker 2: it and can't do anything about it. This is a
Speaker 2: note to all car manufacturers. Have the warnings. Maybe they
Speaker 2: can come on at the beginning cases the car is
Speaker 2: going to blow up, but in the case of windshield
Speaker 2: wiper fluid, I've forgotten it by the time I get home.
Speaker 2: Do a nice loud beep when I pull up into
Speaker 2: the driveway. Help me rather than just shame me every
Speaker 2: time I start the car. I'm solving problems, I'm creating ideas,
Speaker 2: I'm podcasting. I love it. Let's get into the show.
Speaker 2: I just think today's guest is fantastic. It's been Thomas Vinnie.
Speaker 2: Welcome dysond Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, thank you so much for having me. I
Speaker 3: do think maybe you're using too much fluid. In general,
Speaker 3: I think you're using too much fluid. I barely use
Speaker 3: the fluid.
Speaker 2: You know. I'm constantly using the fluid. I mean, the
Speaker 2: smallest bit of dust on the car blasting out.
Speaker 3: I don't feel guilty every time I use the fluid.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is too much. Surely I don't need
Speaker 3: the fluid. The fluid's not necessary. I can't just use
Speaker 3: the wiperies. Yeah, I'm not fancy. I'm not fancy.
Speaker 2: I don't even flu you've got is your car? How
Speaker 2: often you get your car washed? Oh? Not enough?
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you see a really dirty car and
Speaker 3: the feeling it conscious is the same feeling you see
Speaker 3: you like when you've see an abused dog or something.
Speaker 3: It's the same kind of Oh, no, he's not taking
Speaker 3: care of it. And I'm sure people look at my
Speaker 3: car and they feel that way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my car. I mean I'm on the same page.
Speaker 2: I get it washed about I would say twice a year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it's definitely giving an energy of a dog that
Speaker 2: needs to be rescued, like first step rescue, not even
Speaker 2: by the pound takes it and has to get the
Speaker 2: fleas taken off. All of this. Oh okay, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a tough situation. So I think that's I'm kind of
Speaker 2: washing the car via windshield wipe or fluid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right on which do you go to like the
Speaker 3: festival car wash where like festival you know the one
Speaker 3: that's like an automatic festival. You take it through and
Speaker 3: a bunch of little brushes hit your car and there's
Speaker 3: like colorful slabs and stuff. Okay, I do it by hand,
Speaker 3: one of those little places. You're kidding why, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just appreciate the old ways. There's something that feels
Speaker 3: very like artisanal and classic about spraying to me.
Speaker 2: The spraying it, the energy I get from that is
Speaker 2: very I have just been somewhere like getting rid of
Speaker 2: a body and destroying evidence that's so true.
Speaker 3: I think the last time I did it, it was because
Speaker 3: some man on the street through a like a bag
Speaker 3: of orange liquid. He hurled a bag of orange liquid
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, just into the street
Speaker 3: that it hit my car and burst all over the windshield.
Speaker 3: And I was like, surely I can't keep driving this.
Speaker 3: I don't know what this liquid is. God only knows
Speaker 3: what it was. And so I was hosing that.
Speaker 2: Did it leave like an orange residu on your car?
Speaker 2: It was disgusting. There was high pulp orange juice. Oh
Speaker 2: God forbid if there was pulp.
Speaker 3: I didn't even looked as if there was pulp, that
Speaker 3: would have been a whole different thing, because I don't
Speaker 3: think it was orange juice.
Speaker 2: It didn't smell citteressy. I wonder maybe windshield whiper fluid
Speaker 2: is orange. I think it's either usually well, it's probably
Speaker 2: usually green, but I can imagine an orange windshield whipeer fluid.
Speaker 2: This is so gay guys shouldn't be allowed to talk
Speaker 2: about cars. Let me just say that we should were
Speaker 2: the only people who should be allowed to talk about
Speaker 2: We're thinking of ideas. I've thought of a new beep
Speaker 2: that the car can make I've thought of a new
Speaker 2: color for windshield to hear the beep at the end
Speaker 2: of the I pull up into my driveway, boo, I
Speaker 2: think the vibrato is really it's really something. And then
Speaker 2: I know to put in the windshield wiper flu Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a great idea rather than this harsh beep I
Speaker 2: get at the beginning of the drive. That sets the
Speaker 2: mood for my entire drive. I'm now worried about the
Speaker 2: windshield wiper fluid and I'm forgetting about it. Gay men
Speaker 2: should be running Carmen.
Speaker 3: You find at that point the beep almost sounds like
Speaker 3: a threat. It's like, I hope nothing happens. She's like, wow,
Speaker 3: looks like you fucked up.
Speaker 2: I hope nothing happens. It really is kind of a
Speaker 2: passive aggressive thing. Yeah, well, good for you for starting
Speaker 2: the car and getting on your way. But that kind
Speaker 2: of energy I love. I like a regular car wash
Speaker 2: where the car is getting bashed by the festival is
Speaker 2: a good way.
Speaker 3: It's the festival because everything's fringe, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Ye, Like, it's all like fringe and tassels,
Speaker 3: and it's very southward.
Speaker 2: It's very white.
Speaker 3: Woman in Santa Fe kind of feeling herself. She's from
Speaker 3: New York, but she recently moved there to find herself.
Speaker 2: I want to see that exact car wash where everything's
Speaker 2: kind of a beige or a turquoise, a very like
Speaker 2: tasteful fringey, because right now it's still kind of circus
Speaker 2: maximalist type, like blasting colors. Everything's like lava wax or
Speaker 2: laser shine, which I appreciate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lava wax and the laser. But I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you want a more curated experience as I do.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: This is la I want to go to in a
Speaker 3: car wash and like all of the tassels are ivory,
Speaker 3: and like everything is ivory. You go in there and
Speaker 3: it's a liminal like severance style gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's gonna do this? Why haven't they done this?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's sick.
Speaker 3: Every time you go there and get soap. It's like
Speaker 3: getting sprinkles on a carvel cake or Nickelodeon.
Speaker 2: It's nickel. You're getting slimy. Double Dare. Your car is
Speaker 2: getting slipped to your pass cut Double Dare. Mark Summers,
Speaker 2: The Mark Summer's car Wash, The thing about the one
Speaker 2: that you do yourself. You do feel powerful. You have
Speaker 2: a giant gun. You get to shoot at the car, yeah,
Speaker 2: which like there's nowhere else in the world that you
Speaker 2: get to do that safely. No, of course not.
Speaker 3: I think the worst part about it is when people
Speaker 3: walk near you when you're doing it, and you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're gonna get misted, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't mean to do it, but the wind's
Speaker 2: blowing your direction. You're gonna get misted.
Speaker 3: And that's not great because then you soak a stranger, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then parts of it
Speaker 3: are icky, like if you go over to the part
Speaker 3: where you're supposed to vacuum and like dry everything out,
Speaker 3: it's ikey over there.
Speaker 2: How so, well it's ikey. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: like this everyone, but the one I go to sometimes
Speaker 2: people pee over there. It's like it kind.
Speaker 3: Of smells like you're in and sometimes the suction doesn't work,
Speaker 3: so you're trying to hose and just kind of this
Speaker 3: miasma of piss, piss and trash, trash, it's cigarette butts.
Speaker 2: It's just a bad you're in a bad way.
Speaker 3: But you want to stay in the liquid area and
Speaker 3: you want to use that follow the steps they make
Speaker 3: it very simple. Try not to use the brush too
Speaker 3: much because sometimes it has sand in it and it seems.
Speaker 2: Bad for cars. No, but it's great. It's like a broom.
Speaker 2: But it's great for the spirit. Do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And yeah, it's ripping the paint off cars
Speaker 2: had skin. Take a loof to a car? No, I again,
Speaker 2: And now that's another thing that could be themed. Starship
Speaker 2: Trooper theme with the big guns. You're shooting lights absolutely
Speaker 2: in la of all places. Why aren't these things? They
Speaker 2: should have more themes to these rather than just generic.
Speaker 2: Why there aren't more themes in general? Of course I
Speaker 2: think car wash Starship Troopers would be great, but I
Speaker 2: also think even okay, every fast food place now and
Speaker 2: this is a tangent. Are you mad? We don't do tangents.
Speaker 2: We're very efficient.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about carwashes for an hour and a
Speaker 3: half ivery and everyone's talked about this. But every like
Speaker 3: fast food restaurant now is brutalist. Oh yes, of course,
Speaker 3: of course, I think every person who purchases the franchise
Speaker 3: a fast food restaurant franchise should really make it their own.
Speaker 2: They should really dig in. I once went on a
Speaker 2: road trip with my family when I was really younger.
Speaker 3: We were like going through Nebraska, and we stopped at
Speaker 3: We stopped at a McDonald's brocade curtains.
Speaker 2: There was a time period when this was happening a
Speaker 2: McDonald It was beautiful. It was the most beautiful McDonald's
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. It was like being
Speaker 2: in a European It was like being in Versailles, and
Speaker 2: the bathrooms were spotless, and I've never seen a McDonald's
Speaker 2: like it, clearly because the franchise owner just really had
Speaker 2: kind of a very specific vision for what this McDonald's
Speaker 2: going to be mean to McDonald's. Absolutely, yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: I feel like there was a period it must have
Speaker 2: been like the late eighties or the mid nineties where
Speaker 2: a lot of the occasional McDonald's would feel like Grandma's
Speaker 2: living room, where it's like, this doesn't quite match what
Speaker 2: I think of with McDonald's, but I appreciate it. It's
Speaker 2: like dingy, starting to feel dingy. Those curtains obviously smell
Speaker 2: like chicken.
Speaker 3: Mcnaficis, Yeah, those curtains smell wraw. Those curtains are good,
Speaker 3: but I do like just pick a theme. I think
Speaker 3: prehistoric Western. Okay, there's a coffee shop out here, which
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name specifically, but it is ostensibly named.
Speaker 2: After prehistoric animals. So disappointing. Yeah, it's it's called what
Speaker 2: it's called. I'm happy because I will say it's good coffee.
Speaker 2: It's called dinosaur coffee exactly. We can name it, but
Speaker 2: because it should be dinosaur themed, it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely shit every now and then they put a cheeky
Speaker 3: little stegosaurus stamp on a cop I went in there excited,
Speaker 3: right because I've never been there before. I saw the name.
Speaker 3: I was thrilled. I was out of my fucking chair
Speaker 3: ready to go to dinosaur coffee.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be filled with ferns. I
Speaker 2: thought the cups they were gonna have little, like, you know,
Speaker 2: kitchy dinosaur shaped cups. It's like it's like it's like
Speaker 2: a t rex and it's holding a big bowl or
Speaker 2: like a triceratops with its mouth open, and you're like
Speaker 2: drinking out of the triceratops' mouth and not a functional cup.
Speaker 2: Not a function No, not functional in fact, it hurts. Yes,
Speaker 2: your hand is being cut, your head is being cut
Speaker 2: by the triceratops horns. But it's just it's like a
Speaker 2: barber shop in a rich neighborhood. It looks like it's
Speaker 2: it's it's white and tan, and it's got like kind
Speaker 2: of a rib shade. What's that is probably as close
Speaker 2: to dinosaurs you get in. It almost feels like a
Speaker 2: like a skeleton that was excavated from something. They're phoning
Speaker 2: it in. They should have put sand in the back.
Speaker 2: It should feel humid in there. There should be a
Speaker 2: wet pool where like you know, you go into you're
Speaker 2: almost smelling pool.
Speaker 3: That's what I want is I want to go into
Speaker 3: somewhere I want to I want to go to a
Speaker 3: coffee shop. Eighty percent humidity, reeks of chlorine.
Speaker 2: It should smell like the indoor pool of a motel six,
Speaker 2: not coffee.
Speaker 3: It should have like chipped sculptures of dinosaurs that are
Speaker 3: wildly scientifically inaccurate at this point, and they're from a
Speaker 3: different time.
Speaker 2: You know, what's that gas station that has like that?
Speaker 2: The dinosaur out front of the dinosaur out front Sinclair
Speaker 2: gas Stag Unfortunately kind of a I mean, well, of
Speaker 2: course it is a gas station is owned by a
Speaker 2: highly conservative, evil corporation. Oh fuck, but they all love
Speaker 2: drinking their gas, we all do. I have one this morning?
Speaker 2: Oh my god. But I think they also have these
Speaker 2: this They have a bunch of news stations throughout the
Speaker 2: northwest Sinclair, Oh my god. Yeah, And obviously they're just
Speaker 2: pushing some horrible agenda all the time. But then they
Speaker 2: have this wonderful dinosaur out. I guess I never put
Speaker 2: that together that it was the same organization, and there's
Speaker 2: a good chance it's not. Maybe it's just the same name.
Speaker 3: There's no way I've never met anyone in real life
Speaker 3: named Sinclair, so it's true. There can't be more than
Speaker 3: one famous Sinclair organization.
Speaker 2: Claire is a scary last name.
Speaker 3: Oh terrifying, terrifying, and might I say Southern, Oh very
Speaker 3: very Tennessee. Williams ass name Laverna Sinclair lives in a
Speaker 3: dilapidated plantation house.
Speaker 2: She wears a Missus Havisham dress that chatters.
Speaker 3: Colonel Sanders is on the porch. Colonel Sanders is on
Speaker 3: the porch. He's a feminate but not gay. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 3: in the way that southern Medo. Sometime's efeminate but not
Speaker 3: gay Lindsay Graham style, and they're constantly arguing.
Speaker 2: Everyone's sweating all the time. Saint Clair, I don't know
Speaker 2: that I've ever met a goods in Clare. I've never
Speaker 2: met a sin Claire.
Speaker 3: No, and I don't think you ever will. We're not
Speaker 3: part of that world, you know what I mean. We're
Speaker 3: out here, we're Yankees. I want to be part of
Speaker 3: that world.
Speaker 2: Oh, I want to be part of the Dinosaur gas
Speaker 2: station work.
Speaker 3: You could get there. I think you could make a
Speaker 3: really powerful conservative pivot. And I think you know this
Speaker 3: about yourself.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to the drop of a hat to take
Speaker 2: this podcast in a real weird direction.
Speaker 3: I am all the time. Every now and then I
Speaker 3: think to myself, I could make a lot of money.
Speaker 3: I think I'd be so much better at it than
Speaker 3: the conservatives are. They don't make any sense, do.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Of course you don't have
Speaker 2: to make any sense. They're not charming, you know a mile. Also,
Speaker 2: coming from where we start, people will be like the
Speaker 2: conservative crowd will eat us up because they'll be like,
Speaker 2: look where they started. Now they're on our team. Oh
Speaker 2: you would change, you would change in that way, they
Speaker 2: would think, oh, look now they're demons, and so you know,
Speaker 2: like I feel like when someone on the left makes
Speaker 2: a conservative pivot, the conservatives the far right really goes
Speaker 2: for them because they're like, look, they changed their mind
Speaker 2: finally exactly they saw that they were wrong.
Speaker 3: I think I would pretend that I had like found
Speaker 3: God and become straight.
Speaker 2: I would show up with a wife. Do you ever
Speaker 2: worry about that? I think, God, I'm becoming straight. Like
Speaker 2: the idea of like maybe you get older and you
Speaker 2: lose your mind, so you're like I was wrong all along.
Speaker 2: You think you're going to get dementia and forget that
Speaker 2: you're a homosexual. Not even dementia. I just like, I
Speaker 2: feel like at some point some people, as they get older,
Speaker 2: they just kind of like freak out and start to
Speaker 2: panic about life and then like suddenly become religious again
Speaker 2: or that kind of thing. And I think I'm far
Speaker 2: enough removed at this point that I'm going to be okay,
Speaker 2: But you never know.
Speaker 3: I could see it happening. There are some things I
Speaker 3: miss about church, Like what here's what I miss about church.
Speaker 3: The pancake breakfasts every now and then to be a
Speaker 3: pancake breakfast. There are very few contexts in which I
Speaker 3: can go somewhere, get like a dozen cheap pancakes and
Speaker 3: just you know, keyky with my friends. It does not
Speaker 3: happen anymore. This motion, oh, change and do this. Were
Speaker 3: you Catholic Mormon, there's none of that.
Speaker 2: There was a lot. Mormon church was very dull for
Speaker 2: me to bring up dancing, and you were a Mormon.
Speaker 2: There was no nobody playing drums, No guitar was allowed. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of quietly singing hymns. Uh. The loudest
Speaker 2: instrument we had was an organ. Oh god. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: it's like a very not a party atmosphere. There are
Speaker 2: pancake breakfasts we had. We had a party atmosphere. What
Speaker 2: church were you going to?
Speaker 3: Well, it was like a megachurch cusp, like right on
Speaker 3: the edge of being a megachurch, kind of a huge congregation.
Speaker 3: We had like a whole band like opening for a
Speaker 3: mega church. Oh absolutely, and we're getting there. I think
Speaker 3: more and more every day. I think they just bought
Speaker 3: a new space and there's a cafe. Of course, there's
Speaker 3: a My pastor was so cool. He described himself as
Speaker 3: a jazz theologian. So he like he has this great
Speaker 3: book about like the intersection of Christ in jazz, and
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like it. Truly, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of Once again, there's a lot that I miss about church.
Speaker 2: Was your church getting into like dark stuff? I mean,
Speaker 2: was it like? No, he kept it light. That's the
Speaker 2: good thing is he kept it light, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Good for him. They say he got up there,
Speaker 2: he said be nice.
Speaker 3: He said, God forbid, God forbid, God forbid someone get
Speaker 3: up there and say be nice, be a decent first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not your gay little cousin is a free
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Were they fairly inclusive church?
Speaker 2: I think they were inclusive.
Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of kind of Baptist
Speaker 3: churches and mega churchy churches that are ostensibly inclusive.
Speaker 2: Like right, that's how they get you.
Speaker 3: They never talk about it like you, never kind of
Speaker 3: dig beneath the service.
Speaker 2: But that's how they get you. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: look too closely? No, no, just listen to the music
Speaker 2: and move your hands. Yeah, this thing, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like the extent of the dancing that's happening. Well, it's
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: They're like feeling the spirit and they're like yes Lord,
Speaker 3: Yes Lord, Yes, yes Lord Amen, and then just like
Speaker 3: shuffling back and forth like this. That's a big one.
Speaker 3: I honestly think that's most of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was there any speaking in tongues? No? But I
Speaker 2: have family members.
Speaker 3: I have an aunt who wants she's not she she's
Speaker 3: a very close family friend. We call her aunt, right,
Speaker 3: and she wants lean over to me and she goes,
Speaker 3: you know, I have the gift of tongues. I'm possessed
Speaker 3: of the gift of tongues. And I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: that's that's really gaggy, you know what I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: A gag Did you dare her to try? No?
Speaker 3: I think she has to be like in the state.
Speaker 3: You have to kind of get into the trance state.
Speaker 2: Otherwise it's gobbledegook. I mean, unless you're in the trance,
Speaker 2: it's nonsense, you know what I mean? And I guess
Speaker 2: that is more like southern church, like Jesus Camp, that
Speaker 2: type of thing where everyone's just I don't know how
Speaker 2: you get to that emotional state where you're suddenly just
Speaker 2: ha amout a shubata. But would have maybe we both
Speaker 2: can speak in tongues deep in love.
Speaker 3: It boo, I'm gonna Supit is me trying to order
Speaker 3: sup at a restaurant, but I haven't had any water.
Speaker 3: I'm parched, I'm parched. My mouth is dry. I'm like
Speaker 3: an emch and I'm like, I'm you just want the
Speaker 3: tomato basis. I just want the tomato basil. But I
Speaker 3: can't remember the words. No one can wait. I was
Speaker 3: gonna say something I have to do.
Speaker 2: With speaking in tongues ordering soup. Oh. The snake churches, Oh,
Speaker 2: snake churches is a whole other It's kind of a
Speaker 2: different category, kind of a different category. But I did
Speaker 2: watch a little video on the snake church recently. What
Speaker 2: did you learn? I learned that those people are really
Speaker 2: fucking awful of those goddamn snakes. Those people are really mean.
Speaker 2: What did they do to them? They're taking they're taking
Speaker 2: rattlesnakes out of their little They keep them in erriums
Speaker 2: on newspapers. They take them out when it's time to
Speaker 2: like test God or whatever, and they take them out
Speaker 2: and they like step on them and they like throw
Speaker 2: them around and really just kind of put these snakes
Speaker 2: through hell. And then put them back, and so whenever
Speaker 2: one of them gets bit and killed by one of
Speaker 2: these snakes, I'm like, yeah, I mean you were absolutely asking.
Speaker 3: We're begging for it. They're doing crazy things to those snakes.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? So what is the point? It
Speaker 2: is like testing God? Like being like, God, you won't
Speaker 2: let the snake bite me, strangest thing in the world, Mama.
Speaker 2: They're like, they're like, Okay, we're so protected and blessed
Speaker 2: by God in this.
Speaker 3: Moment, like we're going to prove it to you by
Speaker 3: kind of molesting these rattle snakes. And the rattlesnakes aren't
Speaker 3: going to do anything no matter how much we diddle them,
Speaker 3: like everything's going to be fine because God.
Speaker 2: Won't let it happen. And then sometimes sometimes God is
Speaker 2: dead and the snake bites the guy and it happens
Speaker 2: all the time, And I guess when that happens, how
Speaker 2: do they move the goalpost? Is it just like, well,
Speaker 2: God decided that.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's like a secret or something, or like you
Speaker 3: lose a finger and you're like that finger was temptation.
Speaker 3: That was a temptation finger, and is always rattlesnakes. It's
Speaker 3: always venomous snakes. Whoa, I mean, there's no way they
Speaker 3: use Could you imagine if it was a non venomous snake,
Speaker 3: They're like stamping on a garter snake or something.
Speaker 2: Of course, nothing's going to happen. It has to be
Speaker 2: a rattle snake. Well, that would be my snake church.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to actually test the limits of snakes.
Speaker 2: It's you with two terrified ball pythons just like them
Speaker 2: in your hands, whipping them around. Why am I talking
Speaker 2: to you like you're the expert? Please? I think at
Speaker 2: this point I am. I certainly feel like the expert stage.
Speaker 2: I wonder, are snakes part of every time you go
Speaker 2: to church or so, like once a month we bring
Speaker 2: out the snake like especial occasion. Yeah, like it's Christmas,
Speaker 2: it's Easter, let's break out the pancake breakfast. I think
Speaker 2: they bring them out a lot. I really think they
Speaker 2: bring them out a lot.
Speaker 3: They're hauling them out all the time. And here's the thing,
Speaker 3: I think snakes do get it used to being handled.
Speaker 3: So if they're bringing these rattlesnakes out constantly, the rattle
Speaker 3: snakes are probably going to be less likely to bite you.
Speaker 2: This again. Yeah, if they.
Speaker 3: Really want to do something crazy, they should get a
Speaker 3: fresh one every time. They should get a rattlesnake, like
Speaker 3: a city rattlesnake. That is like, it's it's violent, it's
Speaker 3: got horrible tendencies, it's socopathic. The other rattlesnake, stay away
Speaker 3: from it. It came out of a toilet. It came
Speaker 3: out of a toilet, and then it loved it so
Speaker 3: much that it went back in. Like that kind of
Speaker 3: a rattle snake. Oh, truly a sewer snake. Get one
Speaker 3: of those and that'll prove to me that kind of
Speaker 3: topic snakes.
Speaker 2: It's the I don't know. Religion is so funny and
Speaker 2: so weird. They should do a spider church. I wonder
Speaker 2: if anybody's ever attempted that. Oh, because you dance on
Speaker 2: those spiders that you're gonna burn through spiders. That's a
Speaker 2: big budget for spiders.
Speaker 3: But maybe another dangerous animal, right, like a scorpions box, jellyfish,
Speaker 3: rabbit dog church, rabbit dogs, bring out the rabbit dogs
Speaker 3: dog church, just running through the congregation, nipping at people.
Speaker 2: I was about to make a horrible pond. Oh my,
Speaker 2: I a better to make a horrible pond.
Speaker 3: Well, now you have to care instead of fuse their
Speaker 3: pause and I'll never do it again.
Speaker 2: I'll say that I never do it again. I can
Speaker 2: wrap up the podcast at any time, so just don't
Speaker 2: push me. But we have invented, so now we should
Speaker 2: be in charge of cars. Yeah, car washers and animal
Speaker 2: themed churches. Animal themed. I think Snake Church is ultimately
Speaker 2: animal themed.
Speaker 3: Mall shops get abandoned all the time, Sure, go out
Speaker 3: of business. Yeah, I would love to see a church
Speaker 3: take over the rain for his cafe.
Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of theme for restaurants, it's all coming together.
Speaker 2: Then it's our coffee take over a rainforest cafe. Perfect.
Speaker 2: I mean, does Rainforest Cafe still exist? Oh yeah, they're
Speaker 2: still probably like dragging themselves at this point.
Speaker 3: No listen, Rainforest Cafe has seen a surge and activity.
Speaker 2: This was a whole news story, like can ironic surge?
Speaker 2: I think so true?
Speaker 3: Like gen Z actually, really we love a themed restaurant
Speaker 3: and so everyone kind of wants that Kitschi fun experience
Speaker 3: of going to the Rainforest Cafe all of a sudden
Speaker 3: and it was on its last.
Speaker 2: Legs, which was super air. Then gen Z like stabbed
Speaker 2: adrenaline into its heart and it's alive again. There's a
Speaker 2: video online of this guy going to every rainforest cafe
Speaker 2: in America. He visits every single one, all two of them.
Speaker 2: There's so many, there's so many more than you think.
Speaker 3: You keep besmirching them, and they're actually a very powerful organization,
Speaker 3: so I would really watch it. And he goes to
Speaker 3: everyone of the numerous beautiful rainforest cafes immaculates eating their
Speaker 3: menu is crazy. Everything is like tropical cage in pasta
Speaker 3: of course, and and like gorilla cheesecake, and it's just
Speaker 3: stuff you might find in a diner, but with like
Speaker 3: rain in front of it. And he eats that and
Speaker 3: he starts to get so like sick and weird from
Speaker 3: drinking nothing but mango dackies and eating like cowabunga meatballs
Speaker 3: or whatever they're called, dynamite steak the wet dirt.
Speaker 2: And he documented the whole thing, hmm, but probably over
Speaker 2: TikTok or something YouTube. It's actually really beautiful the way
Speaker 2: he edits it. Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes to this very emotional journey. He goes
Speaker 3: with his friend. His car breaks down at one point
Speaker 3: and it's just kind of it's a beautiful narrative toured
Speaker 3: through the told through the lens of a Rainforest Cafe.
Speaker 3: Rainforest Cafe is really just the vehicle for him to
Speaker 3: create what I might describe as a novella of the
Speaker 3: suffering of man and kind of a love letter to
Speaker 3: classic Americana.
Speaker 2: Losing my mind. Oh my god, I've spilled my drink
Speaker 2: on Alas, I'm having a hard day. Do we have
Speaker 2: a napkin in the house? In a napkin? Please? It's
Speaker 2: filthy in here. I'm having a very hard time talking
Speaker 2: about Rainforest I'm I'm just realizing now that I've been
Speaker 2: hunched over this entire time. Have you really I think,
Speaker 2: from from my viewpoint, you've had excellent poshing. Now what
Speaker 2: am I doing? I think the Mico? Yeah, you're fucked up?
Speaker 2: Thank you, On Alice, this podcast has taken a real
Speaker 2: violent turn. I've spilled my coffee. I'm a disaster. Wow,
Speaker 2: I need to see this Rainforest Cafe video series. They're
Speaker 2: kind of the last themed restaurant. Oh yeah, lasted all
Speaker 2: of them? Oh my god? Did they? Oh no, the
Speaker 2: cheesecake Factory. That's not a theme. What are you talking?
Speaker 2: Is cheesecake themes? Or it's factory theme.
Speaker 3: The theme is Ancient Egypt, and the theme is Ancient Egypt.
Speaker 3: It is you go down into a cheesecake factory and
Speaker 3: it looks like like an ancient Babylonian tomb. It's dimly lit, beautiful, beautiful,
Speaker 3: stunning sconces everywhere. And let me tell you something about
Speaker 3: the cheesy fact. What let me tell you about the
Speaker 3: cheesy fact. The food there every time I go, and
Speaker 3: I go pretty often is never.
Speaker 2: Bad at worst. At worst, it's only fine, yes, but
Speaker 2: it's never bad. That's very true. Yeah, they kind of, like,
Speaker 2: I feel like, they kind of pride themselves on making
Speaker 2: absolutely fine food. Yeah, like you like you won't be like,
Speaker 2: you won't complain about your meal, of course not, which
Speaker 2: is more than a lot of franchise. It's not franchise,
Speaker 2: but chain restaurants can say I think so, And I
Speaker 2: like how they have stuff that's just called like Asian salad.
Speaker 2: Of course it's just means nothing. It means absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: They're just like Asian salad. It might as well be
Speaker 2: Calabunga salad.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it might be. But it's classier because there are
Speaker 3: no animals in there.
Speaker 2: Which on cheesecake factory going to the gallery or the
Speaker 2: Americana Factory, the Grove Factory.
Speaker 3: I prefer the Grove because there's something so romantic about
Speaker 3: being seated on the terrace on the upper level and
Speaker 3: you like overlook the grove and you can kind of
Speaker 3: see this veneer of Tuscany melt away because right behind
Speaker 3: it is the parking garage and the Nike store and
Speaker 3: you're just kind of watching the world go by beneath you.
Speaker 2: Or sometimes they.
Speaker 3: Sit you in in the interior balcony that overlooks the amc.
Speaker 2: Oh even more beautiful, the smell of popcorn wafting up,
Speaker 2: the smell of popcorn floor whatever else wafting up into
Speaker 2: your face. But no, it is really beautiful.
Speaker 3: I think it is one of the top ten most
Speaker 3: romantic dining locations in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Riding that escalator up, it's so big, it's there was
Speaker 2: no need to put an escalator. It feels like going
Speaker 2: down to the subway in Washington, DC or something. It's
Speaker 2: like so long and I think kind of skinny.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely cannot stand abreast, cannot past somebody on
Speaker 3: that escalator. You know, it's crazy there's an upscalator, But no,
Speaker 3: there's no downscalator. Oh interesting, you have to either take
Speaker 3: that down stairs down or I wonder what the thinking
Speaker 3: was behind that, or actually.
Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong. I could be making that up.
Speaker 2: It seems right, do you think, Yeah, I'm like picturing
Speaker 2: it now. I think you get to ride up. But
Speaker 2: afterward your your screw. You wanted to say fucked. Why
Speaker 2: didn't you more to keep this jumping back out? That's crazy.
Speaker 2: You literally were about to say fucked and you stopped yourself.
Speaker 2: This is a church podcast. Person foremost, I always am
Speaker 2: surprised by when this podcast is listed as explicit. What
Speaker 2: are we talking about? Parental advisory? Wait, there's a there's
Speaker 2: a bent like put a little a little E next
Speaker 2: to every episode for it, like this is like a
Speaker 2: doctor tree out.
Speaker 3: I did notice that I looked at Hannah Pilcaus's episode
Speaker 3: and there wasn't E, and I was like, she was
Speaker 3: probably great.
Speaker 2: Did they get into it? Like I have no idea,
Speaker 2: just filth, absolute filth. Well, I will you know something
Speaker 2: that is disgusting I will say on this podcast. Still again,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be happy about this because I'm not finny.
Speaker 2: The podcast is called I said no gifts. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was looking forward to you coming today. Okay, I thought,
Speaker 2: Finny'll come, We'll have a great time. I'll pitch some
Speaker 2: of my car ideas. Maybe he'll take them out into
Speaker 2: the world and we'll, you know, spread spread this information
Speaker 2: and have a wonderful time. So it's a little surprised,
Speaker 2: and I will also say a little delighted when you
Speaker 2: came into the studio holding what is not only a gift,
Speaker 2: but a beautifully wrapped gift. Yeah, I'm so sorry. That
Speaker 2: was my mistake.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm as mad as you are. I may be
Speaker 3: more than you are.
Speaker 2: You're shaking, physically shaking. I'm shaking.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something crazy after this. I'm gonna do
Speaker 3: something crazy. I don't know what it is yet, but
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be legal. And I'm so mad.
Speaker 2: I can't. You're casting a wide net with behavior just
Speaker 2: saying it may not be legal. Yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 2: do something crazy, But you brought this lovely little Uh.
Speaker 2: It's in a small box wrapped in kind of a
Speaker 2: newspaper or a coupon section.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I get a lot of coupon mailers. I get a
Speaker 2: lot of coupon mailers and then it has a little
Speaker 2: piece of origami on top.
Speaker 3: I had to watch a tutorial on how to make
Speaker 3: that crane. And let me say the guy was insufferable.
Speaker 2: Shock.
Speaker 3: The guy was insufferable. So he'd be like, and now
Speaker 3: folded down to make the legs, okay, he said, And
Speaker 3: now make a leg fold. He'd be like, and now
Speaker 3: we're making a belly fold in a mountain fold? Were
Speaker 3: you supposed to shut up until say fold in half?
Speaker 3: Stop talking about bellies and mountains and legs.
Speaker 2: If anybody knows Hamburger hot dog folding, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I can say.
Speaker 3: Paddy Wiener, Paddy Wiener, and I'll figure it out. Don't
Speaker 3: say mountain and belly anyway, I made the beautiful grain.
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. Right when the last time you did orgami? Oh,
Speaker 2: it's probably been days. I used to love me orgami frogs.
Speaker 3: I used to be this b in Chicago where I
Speaker 3: would fold a bunch of orgon me frogs and I
Speaker 3: would be this man who's addicted to or gammy frogs
Speaker 3: and I would throw them at the audience cranes.
Speaker 2: I don't make as much. They're less functional, I would say, no,
Speaker 2: they're not functional at all, but they are elegant. They
Speaker 2: are so elegant, delicate.
Speaker 3: And I wrapped this gift and just the box looked
Speaker 3: bald to me, right, nude in a way that wasn't tasteful,
Speaker 3: kind of nude in an acrid, dangerous way. And so
Speaker 3: I topped it with a crane, and then I thought
Speaker 3: I would level some curly cues.
Speaker 2: Curly cues were done gorgeously. This is not the scissor,
Speaker 2: I imagine. No, no, and you know what it is,
Speaker 2: because the newsprint isn't strong enough for the scissor. Oh,
Speaker 2: that makes sense. So I tried. What I did is
Speaker 2: I wrapped him around a pencil.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, I wrapped it with a pencil through
Speaker 3: marinated them, threw them in a freezer, and you can
Speaker 3: grill those up whenever you want. They're gonna be absolutely delicious.
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, with a water. I've never heard this before.
Speaker 2: It's so tasteful. Thank you so much. Okay, well should
Speaker 2: I open it? Yeah, if you dare, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: be very careful with so poorly. May just throw in
Speaker 2: the trash the breast of the crane. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're all over the place. The rude. I threw it
Speaker 2: on the floor and that was rude. But it flew
Speaker 2: kind of nice, did it. Let's try that again. It
Speaker 2: doesn't fall immediately to the floor. Yeah, well, as cranes do,
Speaker 2: as cranes do. Okay, we'll put it there on the table. Oh,
Speaker 2: you're not going to name it. Oh it's its name
Speaker 2: is David. Perfect. There we go. So man, now we
Speaker 2: have that business. Excuse me, No, this is a woman.
Speaker 2: I think it's a woman. Yeah, it's a lady crane David. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be careful with these coupons. There might be
Speaker 2: a money saving coupon and here that I think it's
Speaker 2: mostly for alcohol or like closet shelves or something. I
Speaker 2: feel like those are always in these now really closet organizers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: closet organ one of those. My closet looks insane. Fifty.
Speaker 2: I have silverfish. I haven't seen a silverfish, but I'm
Speaker 2: just terrified that I'm going to get them. If you
Speaker 2: have silverfish, that's gonna be a low day for you.
Speaker 2: You'll think what am I doing? You? You know? But
Speaker 2: I just feel like when you find a bug in
Speaker 2: your house. Oh, it's just like what am I doing wrong? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm dirty. I'm dirty. Okay, I do want to look
Speaker 2: at what coupons we've got here. I'm not even looking
Speaker 2: at the gift. Oh okay, don't worry about Oh okay,
Speaker 2: we're putting that behind for a moment. I'm getting some
Speaker 2: sort of steak, eight free burghers from somebody, and you
Speaker 2: need them. Look at that. Just a giant piece of
Speaker 2: raw meat. I don't know what it is. It's not raw,
Speaker 2: it's certainly. Oh it's bacon wrapped, and then it has
Speaker 2: some sort of pomegranate on top or something from how
Speaker 2: did you say bacon wrapped like that? Bacon rap? It's
Speaker 2: bacon wrapped. How am I supposed to say it? I
Speaker 2: don't know, bacon wrapped. It's bacon wrapped. Liza Minelli. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: tomato tomato. But okay, I've got eight free burgers coming
Speaker 2: my way. Some sort of air conditioner or something, water purifier?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, fifty percent off organize your home? What did
Speaker 2: I tell you? Oh my god, there it is. This
Speaker 2: is the curse of the modern circular god. I wish
Speaker 2: I had a closet like that. Oh can you imagine?
Speaker 2: This is like American psycho suit. This is essentially the
Speaker 2: car wash we were talking about. It really is.
Speaker 3: No, that's the color scheme and everything Beije gray. The
Speaker 3: soap is pine tar.
Speaker 2: And fifty percent off of something I'll never know. That's
Speaker 2: a shame. Okay, now I've put the gift behind my computer.
Speaker 2: I'm pulling is it's tea? Right? This is glazed lemon
Speaker 2: loaf tea. You are not the first person to bring
Speaker 2: this on the podcast, the same this exact and I
Speaker 2: wonder who else brought the tea. This was a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago, Alison Rosen, I don't know who that.
Speaker 2: That's well, tell me why you brought this. This is
Speaker 2: so fascinating. Yeah, well, I think it's delicious. It's so good.
Speaker 2: I think it's the best tea.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, I think a lot of products that
Speaker 3: are flavored like baked goods are kind of a waste
Speaker 3: of time, right, because a pizza flavored thing isn't flavored
Speaker 3: like a pizza.
Speaker 2: Now, it's like garlic to an onion, garlic whatever.
Speaker 3: This tastes Willy Wonka style as if you're eating glazed
Speaker 3: lemon loaf. It's delicious and it was on sale to
Speaker 3: for one. Oh my gosh, I have one for myself.
Speaker 3: Good first, and what I'm hoping you do is text
Speaker 3: me when you make a cup, and I'll make a
Speaker 3: cup at the same time.
Speaker 2: Oh, and we'll kind of synchronize.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like those lamps, like when you're in
Speaker 3: a long distance relationship, like you touch one and it
Speaker 3: lights up.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard about this. That sounds so irritated. No
Speaker 2: it doesn't. It sounds like the behavior of a controlling partner.
Speaker 2: What you just see it like blinking a bunch because
Speaker 2: the tapping constantly. The lamp turns red when you don't
Speaker 2: touch it within three minutes. Think of me, me actively cheating,
Speaker 2: touching the lamp while it's happening in in a moment
Speaker 2: of ecstasy, the other person kicking their legs touching the
Speaker 2: lamp on in New York.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's really good tea. But obviously you've had it
Speaker 2: at this point. I but we have to talk about
Speaker 2: it because you bring up a good point about a
Speaker 2: lot of especially I think Oreo is currently our biggest offender.
Speaker 2: Oh pisses me off. It makes me so mad.
Speaker 3: Oreo flavored is chocolate and maybe vanilla or whatever their
Speaker 3: icing is flavored, it's not the Oreo.
Speaker 2: A lot of it is the texture. It's texture, it
Speaker 2: tastes like it doesn't taste like chocolate. I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: this is let's just put it all on the table.
Speaker 2: Because this is a complicated issue and the cities on
Speaker 2: the table, we have to be sensitive about how we
Speaker 2: talk about it. Oreos. I love an original Oreo absolutely,
Speaker 2: but now and we've talked about this. I think we've
Speaker 2: all talked about this because this is what Oreo wants ultimately,
Speaker 2: is to shock and just try to get our attention
Speaker 2: in any way possible by putting whatever disgusting cream flavor
Speaker 2: into the middle of the Oreo is possible.
Speaker 3: Maybe we're a little different because this. I don't mind,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't mind innovation. I
Speaker 3: actually yearn for it.
Speaker 2: I think Oreo being the.
Speaker 3: Taco Bell of cookies is kind of It means they're
Speaker 3: forward thinking and they're willing to push the boundary.
Speaker 2: I think that's great. What I can't stand is when
Speaker 2: something is Oreo flavored. But like so much of an
Speaker 2: Oreo is the spirits of seeing the like the runes
Speaker 2: on the Oreo. Oh and it is a run the
Speaker 2: mysterious is a medallion or a rune that could open
Speaker 2: a portal. It's whatever's on there. I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: the one thing conspiracy theorists just have not latched on.
Speaker 2: Come you imagine twisting that and it starts to glow.
Speaker 2: You put them at the like five points of a
Speaker 2: star and something insane happens, like the milk you're about
Speaker 2: to dip it in becomes a whirlpool, storm clouds gather. Wow,
Speaker 2: this is an Oreo commercial. Yeah, they should do that. Okay,
Speaker 2: Now we have to kind of just remind Oreo that
Speaker 2: we've created this and the money should be just to
Speaker 2: where to write that to send the check. Absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 2: So you don't like the Oreo flavor in a thing, No,
Speaker 2: I don't, But I like the fact that Oreo is
Speaker 2: now like, here's nacho cheese flavor Oreo. They didn't do that.
Speaker 2: You're being hyperbolic. You're being hyperbolic.
Speaker 3: They make like Lady Gaga chromatical oreos, which I don't
Speaker 3: even know what those are.
Speaker 2: I think those are just like vanilla with sprinkles probably,
Speaker 2: but they do really like a sour patch kids Oreo,
Speaker 2: which is one of the most disgusting foods I've ever
Speaker 2: put in my mouth. It is revolted a sour Patch kid. No,
Speaker 2: a sour Patch kid oreo? Oh bro, why did you
Speaker 2: eat that? That's crazy because it was there.
Speaker 3: I think really, fruity sour flavors are not meant to
Speaker 3: be in any kind of baked good.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's crazy. It's two worlds that were
Speaker 2: never meant to cross paths. Wait, which sower Patch kids
Speaker 2: like different fruits? Like different? I mean, first of all,
Speaker 2: that's the beginning of the problem, because like there's the red,
Speaker 2: the yellow, the green, the orange. No one likes the
Speaker 2: green or the yellow. Is the green apple? I think
Speaker 2: it's lime and lime artificial flavor. You've got to be
Speaker 2: very careful.
Speaker 3: Well, I could see like a key lime oreo, you know,
Speaker 3: vanilla cookies and a lime interior.
Speaker 2: But you're all over the place here because the key
Speaker 2: lime oreo. And we're talking about the flavors of the
Speaker 2: sour Patch kids, the sour Patch kids.
Speaker 3: If I took the lime sower Patch kid, and I
Speaker 3: created a kind of gestreak, Okay, sure, I created a
Speaker 3: gas streak erb er blanc from its viscera, and I
Speaker 3: made a cream and I put it between two Crispy
Speaker 3: Vanilla cookies. I think it would be delicious.
Speaker 2: But see, I think this is the problem with this
Speaker 2: particular cookie, because I don't think sour Patch kids ever
Speaker 2: really wants to name what their flavors are, because on
Speaker 2: the bag, I don't think it tells you like cherry orange,
Speaker 2: lemon lime. It's just it's the name of the children. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's like the different children's names. Samantha, Christie, pass me
Speaker 2: a Christy. Samantha's gross. What are the other two names? Oh,
Speaker 2: they have to be boys. Yeah, you've got crazy it
Speaker 2: you name this. I already named that. David oh oh
Speaker 2: oh wait, who was Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, his name is David too. I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: who's the badass kid from that book?
Speaker 2: What was like? No David? Oh? Oh? Ramona Ramona Ramona
Speaker 2: from the book series.
Speaker 3: Henry also from the same book series. And maybe what's
Speaker 3: another man's name?
Speaker 2: Ikabod Ichabod, Yeah, Ikobod, Christie Samantha, Yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: already forgot the other name you gave. It actually doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what was it, but I'd like to assign these
Speaker 2: two colors. People can start spreading.
Speaker 3: The word Christy Samantha Vinnie Vinnie.
Speaker 2: Okay, you get to pick what color you are red, okay,
Speaker 2: oh wow, spoiled. Okay. I think orange is Christie. Orange
Speaker 2: is Christy. Yeah, yellow ichabod kind of a sickly kind
Speaker 2: of icky like thickabod and io Samantha is now green. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So let's kind of trying to get the word out
Speaker 2: about that. I think, So, what did they do? What
Speaker 2: do they do professionally? Yeah? What as a group do
Speaker 2: they do something? They? I think they're an ad sales.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I was thinking more along the lines
Speaker 2: of solve mysteries. You're you're thinking of like a mad
Speaker 2: men's situation. They smoke, they drink, and there's the children.
Speaker 2: They are children, but they're bad. You know, they're sour.
Speaker 2: I forgot about the kids element. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: You would love a sour patcha adult sour patch adults.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they've ever tried that patchman, I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe they should. And it's huge, they're full size. I
Speaker 2: guess a sour patch adult probably would need to be
Speaker 2: like four or five inches tall, I think, because you
Speaker 2: can't just have it be the same size as the children.
Speaker 2: But then if it's four or five inches tall, then
Speaker 2: the kid starts to look like an embryo. Okay, so
Speaker 2: smaller for the adult maybe yees. So it's probably two
Speaker 2: inches tall, two inches tall for the adult. But it
Speaker 2: has to be demse it's gotta be thick. It don't
Speaker 2: has to be two inches tall, but way half abound disgusting,
Speaker 2: no beautiful, but okay, okay, I agree the lime flavored oreo,
Speaker 2: but then it's just gotta be a lime Actually, I
Speaker 2: think they do have a key lime oreo. To be honest,
Speaker 2: it's not a sour patch. I think. I think it
Speaker 2: sounds good. I like the risks they take. I think
Speaker 2: it's a bad move. I think it's a bad look
Speaker 2: for Nabisco. Oh my god. They and I also don't
Speaker 2: under I have to imagine it's bad for the environment.
Speaker 2: I'm switching up the flavors all the time.
Speaker 3: I think it is, aren't they taking all the diet
Speaker 3: of everything. Robert Kennedy and his.
Speaker 2: His little tea dying crusade. Every crusade from him is
Speaker 2: a dying crusade because of the way he sounds. He is.
Speaker 2: It's terrifying and hopefully other things, Uh, there's he's croaking,
Speaker 2: he's tan. Yeah, he's lifting weights and.
Speaker 3: He's crazy, he's fucking do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like that man is pulling, he's cheating on his wife
Speaker 3: every five minutes with some angenoux.
Speaker 2: And no one, no one that's involved in this other
Speaker 2: than him, is enjoying it. No, no, look, you're giving
Speaker 2: everyone the benefit of the doubt here. I think some
Speaker 2: of the like these women are falling in love with him,
Speaker 2: and it must be like having sex with a honey
Speaker 2: baked ham. I truly, it's generous. You think a honey
Speaker 2: bake ham has moisture. Robert F. Kennedy is a moist man.
Speaker 2: There's no way.
Speaker 3: I never looked at him and thought he looks dry.
Speaker 3: I think he's covered in a film at every turn,
Speaker 3: like a honey baked If.
Speaker 2: He has any level of moisture, it's like a dusty
Speaker 2: can of peaches. Do you like find like rolling across
Speaker 2: a splooshe from holes for some reason that I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: But if I'm standing by him being dry as a bone, okay,
Speaker 2: it's a real jerky element.
Speaker 3: I think he's covered in a kind of tacky glaze.
Speaker 3: I think the same way like hippopotamus is sweat, kind
Speaker 3: of a waxy film.
Speaker 2: I think that's what happens. And sure, on the inside
Speaker 2: he might be dry and maybe even creaky, but on
Speaker 2: the outside covered in a thin glaze. I think at
Speaker 2: the at least his mouth is bone dry. Oh. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: the tongue is furry, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Speaker 2: That mouth just ash, absolute cigarette, just like sandpaper. You
Speaker 2: kiss him and your lips are smooth. Immediately afterwards, he
Speaker 2: sucks some moisture out of you completely. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: feel like these women that he's cheating with. Yeah, enter
Speaker 2: the situation thinking this is gonna be great. Absolutely, but
Speaker 2: then it's, of course it's terrible. No, of course it is.
Speaker 3: Every time I see him working out, I'm like, when
Speaker 3: that man sleeps with you, he must heave, do you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, it's a it's a kind
Speaker 3: of heaving experience.
Speaker 2: You're getting dust blown in your face.
Speaker 3: You're getting dust blown in your face, You're trapped underneath.
Speaker 3: He's probably red as a cherry tomato right the blood.
Speaker 2: His eyes are popping out of his head. But yeah,
Speaker 2: eyes popping out of the head, bleeding on the in
Speaker 2: the corners. Has somebody like flying through a windshield. Yeah,
Speaker 2: his legs broken and backwards and bent. His nipples grating
Speaker 2: nipples like thumb tacks. We're earning the explicit podcast nipples
Speaker 2: like thumbtack, just forcing people to imagine r FK in
Speaker 2: this situation. Our FK reach out. We need to answers
Speaker 2: to these questions. Maloney flash, there's he looks so much
Speaker 2: like a cured meat product to me. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: Cheryl stands by him. Oh, brother, Cheryl, Cheryl, she's another one.
Speaker 2: Oh brother, she's another one.
Speaker 3: I don't understand when people are married to absolute freaks
Speaker 3: and they act like nothing is you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just like just looking completely the other wise. How
Speaker 2: do you go to a party and look someone in
Speaker 2: the eye. I can't imagine. I'd be so embarrassed to
Speaker 2: even text a friend, yeah them knowing this is your partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah I would. I would just have to stay at
Speaker 2: home the rest of my life. And do you think
Speaker 2: it would be worth it after we've well, we've just
Speaker 2: described absolutely we now know why Cheryl's still in it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: free meat, free meat meat for Cheryl. I wonder if
Speaker 2: I would love to know, like, because I'm sure at
Speaker 2: least in the past they would go to parties with
Speaker 2: what I would assume our normal people, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: every time he made a complete asshole of himself in conversation.
Speaker 2: And what are those cars? Because I also assume at
Speaker 2: some point she wasn't totally lost, which I feel like
Speaker 2: she's lost at this point. I also am kind of
Speaker 2: conflating her with her character on herby your enthusiasm, who's
Speaker 2: so common sense? I's a mistake, Yeah, but I wonder
Speaker 2: what those car rides home were like. They're probably like this. Well,
Speaker 2: and that's him talking about his day and neither of
Speaker 2: them can hear each other over him blasting arrowspid. I
Speaker 2: think that's probably what it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's him ramming his feet Fred Flintstone style through
Speaker 3: the bottom of the car and insisting he's gonna run
Speaker 3: at home because real men don't let anyone carry them
Speaker 3: or anything. And then he's talking about how Jewish people
Speaker 3: are creating acid rain and black people are addicted to it.
Speaker 3: And then he's talking about how fluoride is actually poisoned
Speaker 3: from the eye of a giant and she's eating it
Speaker 3: up at every turn because he thinks he's so beautiful
Speaker 3: kind of like a contemporary.
Speaker 2: Sculpture, tears rolling down her face, just joy. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: hand on the window looking out. How did I find
Speaker 2: this guy? Or maybe she's part of it? She might
Speaker 2: be part I mean when you stick around in a
Speaker 2: marriage like that, questions have to be asked. Yeah, sticking
Speaker 2: around because physically he's sticky. He's just he probably is
Speaker 2: sticking man. Yeah, maybe not moist, but sticky. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: will say I just made it. I made a mistake.
Speaker 3: We kind of I thought once you unwrap this gift
Speaker 3: that you were starting to wrap up the presentation, and
Speaker 3: so I was starting like the presentation the podcast.
Speaker 2: I shut down the power point yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was starting to hug away a little bit,
Speaker 3: and then I was like talking about Robert F. Kennedy,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, surely I keep talking about
Speaker 3: Robert Kennedy, but he doesn't want to because he unwrapped
Speaker 3: the gift, and therefore the podcast is wrapping up.
Speaker 2: No, but that was a mistake on my end. You
Speaker 2: bring up RFK and that's the beginning of the podcast.
Speaker 2: You think this is the start. We should talk a
Speaker 2: little bit more about the tea. Oh yeah, absolutely, you
Speaker 2: did bring this. Yeah, how often are you drinking a tea?
Speaker 2: I drink tea all the time, all the time. I
Speaker 2: mostly drink green teas.
Speaker 3: And there's a Oh, there's a wonderful black tea what
Speaker 3: called morning Thunder. Oh from Celestial Seasonings, Colorado based company.
Speaker 3: If you ever get a chance to tour their factory
Speaker 3: in Boulder, you have to take.
Speaker 2: I love a factory tour. Oh so do I. I think
Speaker 2: it's like, Oh, it's so much fun. I haven't done.
Speaker 2: I think the last one I did was jelly Belly,
Speaker 2: which unfortunately is a I think kind of a they're
Speaker 2: so tied to Ronald Regan, that's a tough jelly belly
Speaker 2: is He loved jelly bellies, and I think the the
Speaker 2: urban legend is that they would give him the jelly
Speaker 2: bellies to make his mouth move so they could put
Speaker 2: in like a d r in speech, almost like the Yes,
Speaker 2: they were shoving jelly bellies in Ragan's gums to make
Speaker 2: him slop around a word. He was eating the buttered popcorn,
Speaker 2: and then meanwhile.
Speaker 3: Addressing the nation, I digress, you were begging me to
Speaker 3: talk about tea and now.
Speaker 2: Flapping. What I'm trying to do is always bring it
Speaker 2: back to a conservative luned.
Speaker 3: The tea is wonderful. I think it's a good tea.
Speaker 3: It's a great tea for guests.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I try to give a box to everyone I know,
Speaker 3: so if I'm over their house, I know they have
Speaker 3: good tea.
Speaker 2: Oh what a good self serving idea, I think.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: I think it's great.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they go over there and if I just want
Speaker 3: an herbal tea, and they'll be like, I have Zinger.
Speaker 2: I want Zinger. You want to glazed lemon loke, I
Speaker 2: want to glaz want. I want a piece of tea
Speaker 2: that tastes like a cup of taste. And it is.
Speaker 3: It is so spot on, and I honest truly can't
Speaker 3: believe I'm the second person to bring this to you.
Speaker 3: I do blame my mother because she introduced me to
Speaker 3: this tea. She bought me a couple of boxes and
Speaker 3: she was like, you have to try.
Speaker 2: It's delicious.
Speaker 3: And I was under the impression that because I hadn't
Speaker 3: heard of it and it was new for her, that
Speaker 3: it's new for every right, But I should know from
Speaker 3: past experiences that she's not always up on the newest things, right,
Speaker 3: She's very behind. She's very behind For example, she once
Speaker 3: texted me my brother and my sister in law, and
Speaker 3: she said, when you guys come out here to visit,
Speaker 3: we must take you to this new restaurant.
Speaker 2: It's called Mendocino.
Speaker 3: Farms, and they have a delicious vegan on me. Godless, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: god bless. And she was jazzed about Mendosino Farms. She
Speaker 3: thought it was a local farmers.
Speaker 2: Well they you know, they don't give you too much
Speaker 2: information of Mendocine. They don't where is the farm? They
Speaker 2: don't say anything. There's no farm, there's none. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's a farm. Oh there's multiple, there's some multiple farms.
Speaker 2: I don't know where they're sourcing their goods. Mendocino make
Speaker 2: salads in the name, what are you talking about? You
Speaker 2: don't know why any of that's coming from Mendocine. Are
Speaker 2: you kidding me that.
Speaker 3: Beyond beef is from Mendosino. I could chasee the Mendozino
Speaker 3: air wherever I go. But anyway, I love his tea.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. Put it in a mug, put
Speaker 3: it in a I think it pairs wonderfully with Milano cookies.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and if you want to put together a
Speaker 3: little platter. Milano cook cook me. I'm in a weird
Speaker 3: place with words. I'm still learning them. Milano cookies. Bochi chocolate.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've never heard of a bochi chocolate. Never heard
Speaker 2: of a bochi chocolate? What's that? Bochi chocolates are like
Speaker 2: there Italy's answer to Ferrero rochet. Oh yes, I know
Speaker 2: what a Bochi chocolate is. White is crispy. But there
Speaker 2: is a hazelnut. There's like a whole hazel light crunch.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your teeth do almost a pop. Well, you
Speaker 2: look disgusted.
Speaker 3: It's not like biting into a large grub, not bear grills.
Speaker 3: It's a chocolate and it's wonderful, and I heard all
Speaker 3: of you to try it. This is not a tea for.
Speaker 2: This is not a tea to have with like dinner.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. This is not because it's
Speaker 2: not going with a vegan bond me. Certainly, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: That's more of a greene, I would say. So, this
Speaker 2: is a tea you have after dinner with a few
Speaker 2: chocolates and a few friends and a deck of cards
Speaker 2: and conversation, great.
Speaker 3: Conversation in your conversation pit and and your and your whippets.
Speaker 3: Your Italian greyhounds are running around. Your whippets are running
Speaker 3: around the house, tearing it up. You have birds, they're
Speaker 3: they're nipping at your guests too.
Speaker 2: You're not apologized. I'm not apologizing.
Speaker 3: I simply say they have a hurting instinct. It's not true.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely not true.
Speaker 2: And when there's music, oh there's there's Gregorian chant again,
Speaker 2: too loud to hear over, too loud to hear over.
Speaker 2: People are yelling at each other and it's driving the whippe.
Speaker 2: It's mad. That's why they're fighting.
Speaker 3: And that's the whippets are going mad because of the chant.
Speaker 3: And to top it all off, you have a nice
Speaker 3: hot cup of tazz oak Laize lemon loaf.
Speaker 2: It is such a good tea and it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's like naturally sweet, which is always shocking to me,
Speaker 2: just like us, just like you and I? Hey are you?
Speaker 2: Has everybody has anyone ever brought a repeat gift before?
Speaker 2: Other than this? I feel like somebody has, And I
Speaker 2: wish I could on ealise. If you have any idea
Speaker 2: trying to make me feel better, I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: But Vinnie. I just think this makes you extra special,
Speaker 2: so you think absolutely why I just disagree on that point.
Speaker 2: Donalice is just trying to That's what I would say
Speaker 2: to a kid who like pissed himself like in front
Speaker 2: of the class, like no one else pissed themselves. A
Speaker 2: unique your star. No, I think this might be the
Speaker 2: first repeat gift, and I think it's because it speaks
Speaker 2: to the to the quality of the glazed lemon loaf tea.
Speaker 2: Do they make another baked tea? Thank you? I'm very
Speaker 2: curious they do.
Speaker 3: I believe the only other baked good is the vanilla maquon.
Speaker 3: Oh interested vanilla, which I'm not as interested in, No,
Speaker 3: neither ofm I because it's what it's vanilla, simply vanilla.
Speaker 2: There's no other note to that makes a maquon. A
Speaker 2: ma is the texture, like that's the most of it.
Speaker 2: It's the egg white, it's the way it crunches, and
Speaker 2: it's like chewy in the middle. It's three ingredients, what egg, sugar, vanilla?
Speaker 2: Shut up? Maybe color, I think so maybe color? Maybe
Speaker 2: color if you want to go get extra fans. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: it's just a white cookie.
Speaker 3: Me in a boardroom in the early sixties, trying to
Speaker 3: integrate a TV show. Maybe color, Maybe we try color.
Speaker 3: Got a crazy idea of the idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that feels like a bad idea. On Toaso's part, Toaso, Tazzo, Taso,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's the question that we're all asking.
Speaker 2: Let me look at it. You got a guys, close
Speaker 2: look at that.
Speaker 3: It feels something about It feels Eastern European to me.
Speaker 3: So I would say, I would say like, and then
Speaker 3: backwards it's like was Zette and I think, and that's
Speaker 3: exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: I would have guessed my initial guests would have been Rago.
Speaker 2: But Taso, Tazo, What did you say, Tezo?
Speaker 3: You're never gonna make it over there? Let me say something,
Speaker 3: You're never gonna make it in the Baltic States. The
Speaker 3: color of the box, which I also think needs to
Speaker 3: be discussed.
Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful, gorgeous, although there's an element to this that
Speaker 2: I'm a little like it feels a little off brand,
Speaker 2: which is the splat.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the blood spatter, Yes, yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: talking about the Dexter. You're talking about the Dexter dark
Speaker 3: purple blood splatter behind lemon there's just a blast of
Speaker 3: purple goo. I feel like they had this box and
Speaker 3: it was perfectly designed and it was beautiful, and women
Speaker 3: designed it, and then a man looked at it and
Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, lady, step aside, and he was like,
Speaker 3: the bread doesn't look mean. He was like, the bread
Speaker 3: needs to look badass or people aren't going to buy this.
Speaker 3: It needs to look like it's about to walk into
Speaker 3: an m m A ring and fight. And so he
Speaker 3: was like, let's throw some splats behind the bread.
Speaker 2: And it looks like a character selects screen in a
Speaker 2: fighting game. It really does.
Speaker 3: It's like tech in, Yeah, pick your five shirt and
Speaker 3: it's glazed lemon loaf.
Speaker 2: That's a fighting game I could get you. Absolutely makes goods.
Speaker 2: It's a Nina from Techan slapping a glaze lemon loaf
Speaker 2: like this, like glazeed lemon loaf, ripping someone's head off.
Speaker 2: Oh like more reality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it drags the spine out of someone. It doesn't
Speaker 3: have any arms or anything. It just sits there. You
Speaker 3: can't see what it's doing. It's all telekinetic and it's
Speaker 3: tearing someone to pieces.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that is an odd element to this box.
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe I mean, what else do you
Speaker 2: put behind this? A couple of lemons and a bottle
Speaker 2: of vanilla?
Speaker 3: A couple of lemons. A couple of lemons euphemism for
Speaker 3: gay people in the early forties. There's a couple, a
Speaker 3: couple of lemons over there. I do think it needs
Speaker 3: to be dark behind the lemon loaf because the background.
Speaker 3: Stop yell at me, because the lemon loaf is so light,
Speaker 3: you can't just have the right behind it. So I
Speaker 3: would do I would do purple, and I would bring
Speaker 3: it up to make it darker with the lemon loaf thing,
Speaker 3: the rest of the box white, with the kind of
Speaker 3: light ome bray at the bottom right.
Speaker 2: Kind of a downpour, caught in the rain, kind of
Speaker 2: a cut in the rain downpour. That makes sense for ot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're gonna drink. You know, you're watching the rain outside.
Speaker 2: We're painting a picture. You do on a podcast, you
Speaker 2: paint a picture for the listener, Oh for the I was,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, here's one thing about me is I'm dumb?
Speaker 2: Because you said you dumbis Mantle.
Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about how you painted, and
Speaker 3: I said, wonderful. Tell me about what you tell me
Speaker 3: about your work.
Speaker 2: Uh No, we're just we're you know, we're trying to
Speaker 2: be as visual for the listener as possible. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: sit down and you're in a big cozy sweater. You
Speaker 2: have strep throat. You have strep throat, and your whippets
Speaker 2: are running around sixty miles an hour constant. There's always whippets.
Speaker 2: Are you imagining the whippets fresh from the race track? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Those are racing dogs, aren't they. I hope. I feel
Speaker 2: like if they look like that and they weren't for racing,
Speaker 2: if they don't move quickly. But luck, you're built like
Speaker 2: an antelope. What are you for? You're not for cuddling?
Speaker 2: I know that much.
Speaker 3: Sharp ass dogs, they are sharp, oh points all over
Speaker 3: the place. You run your hand down the spine and
Speaker 3: it's like playing a xylophone.
Speaker 2: It's insane, but you know, yeah, glad they're here. Glad
Speaker 2: they're here.
Speaker 3: Glad I keep linking at their camera. Yeah, fucked up,
Speaker 3: but they keep looking at the camera.
Speaker 2: You can use that for like a rescue organization, animal rescue. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that footage will be clipped out and adopt. Don't shop,
Speaker 2: find a whipp it. Yeah, skinny dogs. I run a
Speaker 2: rescue only for skinny dogs. I bet that exists. They've
Speaker 2: got one for everything, absolutely, And I do think that
Speaker 2: those racing dogs, when they're no longer race worthy, I'm
Speaker 2: sure whatever cruel owner has them just sends them off
Speaker 2: to die. Yeah. Glue factory. Glue factory probably what still happened?
Speaker 2: Did that ever happen?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I have it because you derive glue from the collagens
Speaker 3: in the hoof right right.
Speaker 2: But postly that situation where it's like, oh, we can't
Speaker 2: use this horse anymore, or is it like we're breeding
Speaker 2: the horse for the glue. Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't think they were ever breeding horses for a glue.
Speaker 3: I think animal brye products. And let's get into it. Yes,
Speaker 3: animal byproducts after the slaughter of the animal that were
Speaker 3: not fit for human consumption were sent to the glues
Speaker 3: to be derived. Okay, that makes a little more sense,
Speaker 3: I think so, which is why that Elmer's logo is
Speaker 3: a bull.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is so dark. Think about it. Wow,
Speaker 2: dark but dryes clear. They really they make it seem
Speaker 2: such a fun He's like the sun. He's like, I'm
Speaker 2: happy to be sacrificing myself. Absolutely, but it's just like
Speaker 2: the sun on the sunscreen bottles, Like that's what's trying
Speaker 2: to kill you, right, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 2: at least that like the sun isn't dying. Well, actually
Speaker 2: the sun is dying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very that is absolutely dying. But anyway, No, they're
Speaker 3: not melting dogs down for glue. They're just burying them
Speaker 3: or burning them.
Speaker 2: Just sending them off into the city to buy children.
Speaker 2: There are organizations that save greyhounds. Uh right, right kind
Speaker 2: of uh yeah, because again these people just breed them
Speaker 2: to chase the little thing around the track. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then it's like their career is over. What do they do?
Speaker 2: You know, it's like a pro ballplayer, Yeah, with NBA players, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Blue Factory.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine if it was dogs, they become correspondence
Speaker 3: to talk about dog racing, Like there's a Charles Barkley of.
Speaker 2: Start their own clothing line this kind of thing. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's a possibility for snow one. It would
Speaker 2: not be body inclusive. A greyhound starts a clothing line
Speaker 2: and oh yeah, that's the waist is all snatched in bulldogs,
Speaker 2: begging them to make clothes that are more inclusive, posting
Speaker 2: about them, just calling them out constantly, and they deserve
Speaker 2: to be called out. They do. It's messed up Italian snobs.
Speaker 2: Italian snobs, which, by the way, are the miniature versions
Speaker 2: of aun. Oh so the regular greyhound comes from elsewhere.
Speaker 2: The regular greyhound is big. I don't know where it's from.
Speaker 3: But the whipp it rush off. But the whipp it
Speaker 3: is very tiny. That it's a tiny from Italy. So
Speaker 3: the whipp it is a greyhound, yeah, in.
Speaker 2: Italian, but he like tiny, It's like a toy greyhound.
Speaker 2: I thought those were separate breeds. I think they are.
Speaker 2: You just told me a whippet is a greyhound.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, a whippet I think is a whippet
Speaker 3: and an Italian greyhound. Because if it is, then yes.
Speaker 2: Now you're asking me. You presented this information. Is a
Speaker 2: whippet an Italian greyhound on a lease.
Speaker 4: They are different, they are, but they're both considered sighthounds.
Speaker 2: So sighthound, yes, they're part of the same family. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: sighthound is different than a miniature greyhound, is different than
Speaker 2: a whippet. Yes, let's just I think we need to consolidate.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one greyhound and let them breed. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: let those ones breed. We've got too many of these things.
Speaker 2: There are dogs we don't need. Hugs, the poor pug,
Speaker 2: the plight of the plug.
Speaker 3: God, every time I hear one of those things breathe,
Speaker 3: a pug or like a French French bulldog, terrifying, just
Speaker 3: bread to die for people to squeeze a wolf into
Speaker 3: the shape of a human baby.
Speaker 2: If that it's like a sour dough loaf. It's like
Speaker 2: a barely a shape. Yeah, it's barely a shape. I mean,
Speaker 2: God blessed. We love all that. I love dogs, but
Speaker 2: these the ones that are the fact that we keep
Speaker 2: breeding them, yeah, is crazy and making them even smaller
Speaker 2: and less able to survive. Yeah, poor little things, poor,
Speaker 2: the poor DearS or the poor DearS. Well, is there
Speaker 2: anything left to say about tea? I git me here.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're giving this a good effort.
Speaker 3: Okay, The box says, revel in a dessert worthy tea
Speaker 3: with tangy notes of lemon and velvety creamy vanilla. And
Speaker 3: at every turn they're right. It is glazed lemon loaf
Speaker 3: flavor with other natural flavor. God only knows what that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always you know it starts to raise some
Speaker 2: red flags. The ingredients. Can you guess the first ingredient?
Speaker 2: Do you think in claze?
Speaker 3: Lemon, left tea, black tea, apples and apples? Okay, the
Speaker 3: first ingredient is apples, natural flavor, green rebos oh, which
Speaker 3: is really good tea, orange, peel, cammameal, rose, petals, liquorice, root, ginger.
Speaker 2: No lemon, no lemon at all. So they're taking the
Speaker 2: apple and maybe using the acidic element of an apple
Speaker 2: to create lemon or I mean natural flavors. That covers
Speaker 2: a lot of ground. That could mean almost anything. There's
Speaker 2: no way to know. Imported from Morocco. Morocco. Yeah, excellent tea.
Speaker 2: What else do you want me to say? I'll do more?
Speaker 2: What's more about the tea? No? Oh, here's and here's
Speaker 2: what it says in the back. Are you ready? It's
Speaker 2: kind of cheeky. Yes, we've got our own thing brewing.
Speaker 2: Oh boy.
Speaker 3: We're on a quest to be the most bold. It's
Speaker 3: in bold, unexpected teamakers. We're also in bold, always curious,
Speaker 3: always questioning, what's this bold flavor? What's that bold aroma?
Speaker 3: We love to dive in and stir things up.
Speaker 2: We're half curious kid, half intrepid explore.
Speaker 3: Who wait, and there's a third losing meita though half
Speaker 3: undaunted alchemist. Yes, one and a half that spirit. We
Speaker 3: bring it to tea. We do it through unexpected blends
Speaker 3: with a twist, so you can bold taste vibrant, undiscovered
Speaker 3: flavors the world has stashed away.
Speaker 2: You just think of the emotionless copywriter typing that out. No,
Speaker 2: she was feeling herself when she was typing this. Are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? Very? We do things a little differently
Speaker 2: around here. Yeah, you can't read that without smiling. Dessert delight.
Speaker 2: She said. One thing about me is I love wine
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna drink it. Every Dane's like get so.
Speaker 2: When they unveiled a new wine glass, they unveiled a
Speaker 2: new one. When Apple unveiled their new wine.
Speaker 3: Glass, when Apple unveiled their thinnest wine glass yet, I
Speaker 3: was beside myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's tarting to play a game. God,
Speaker 2: Praise God, Praise this tea. I need a number between
Speaker 2: one and ten from you, between one and ten. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you six. Okay. I have to
Speaker 2: do some light calculating to get our game pieces. Okay,
Speaker 2: so right now, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you
Speaker 2: want with the microphone. I'll be right back. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be in a movie that comes out on
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime Video at the end of this month that
Speaker 2: we're recording this in January called You're Cordially Invited, and
Speaker 2: I'm doing a half hour with Zach Zimmerman at the
Speaker 2: Kennedy Center on February twenty. First, why am I looking
Speaker 2: at the TV? I should be looking at that.
Speaker 3: This whole time, I've been looking at the camera, and
Speaker 3: then I started looking at the timer, so I start
Speaker 3: looking like you have a vision trouble or soth. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's gonna look like context. I have big stupid eyes,
Speaker 3: so it's gonna look like a vision trouble.
Speaker 2: Terrified. I was cock eyed for years, but I was
Speaker 2: a kid. Oh, because they're like when you open them
Speaker 2: really wide, it just truly is like, what does cock
Speaker 2: eyed mean?
Speaker 3: I don't know, it might be offensive. Cock eyed once
Speaker 3: another euphemism for being gay. Cock eyed lemon loaf, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you cock eyed lemon loaf? Yeah, So I guess that's
Speaker 3: the stuff. I also platonic on Apple TV. Plus I'm
Speaker 3: in that, So is that thank you beautifully.
Speaker 2: Use time. We're gonna play a game called Gift or
Speaker 2: a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell
Speaker 2: me if there are a gift or a curse and why,
Speaker 2: and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong,
Speaker 2: because there are correct answers and you can lose, so
Speaker 2: be careful, all right, all right? Number one, This is
Speaker 2: from a listener named Brooklyn. Gift or a curse. When
Speaker 2: recipes say enjoy in the last step of the instructions,
Speaker 2: that's a curse. Why don't tell me what to do?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Enjoy is crazy. I haven't
Speaker 2: made your little recipe yet. Like, don't don't tell someone
Speaker 2: to enjoy it. Invite them to enjoy it. Say enjoy,
Speaker 2: but no worries. If not, say enjoy if you feel enjoy, girl,
Speaker 2: stop yelling. I would say a curse. Correct. Correct, it's
Speaker 2: a curse when you say enjoy at the end, you're
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, the recipe writer is assuming
Speaker 2: a lot about themselves. It's a real cocky move to
Speaker 2: be like, maybe I won't enjoy it. They don't know
Speaker 2: if I'm going to enjoy it or not exactly, so
Speaker 2: maybe wait until I've tried it to and then say
Speaker 2: did you enjoy? Follow up or instead of an exclamation point,
Speaker 2: maybe a question mark. Enjoy. Enjoy really call into question
Speaker 2: everything that you've done. Yeah, be humble, Be humble. That's
Speaker 2: ultimately what everyone needs to be doing. And when I
Speaker 2: say see the word enjoy at the end, the sense
Speaker 2: of professionalism has gone out the window. I no longer
Speaker 2: trust you as a cook or baker. You're now a friend.
Speaker 2: Take that guy theory. I hope his recipes. Does he
Speaker 2: have recipes? Does guy share recipes? I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't think he has recipes. I think his recipes are
Speaker 2: like cover it in gees and tear it up, brother,
Speaker 2: throw it on the grill, Throw it on the grill,
Speaker 2: Bobby Flay. Okay, Enjoy is a curse. It's a ridiculous
Speaker 2: thing to put at the end of anything very well played.
Speaker 2: Number two This is from unknown, which is always so
Speaker 2: eerie to me. Gift or a curse. Barely keeping alive
Speaker 2: a houseplant that always looks to be on the verge
Speaker 2: of dying.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this one's hard because I do have
Speaker 3: a plant like that. I love bringing it back because
Speaker 3: I feel how I imagine a surgeon feels after resuscitating
Speaker 3: someone or something. I would say, I would say it's
Speaker 3: a gift for me and a curse for the plant ultimately.
Speaker 3: But I do find it to be a beautiful experience.
Speaker 3: And when the plant, when the plant quickly responds to
Speaker 3: my giving it water, I'm like, oh, I did the
Speaker 3: right thing. But then inevitably it drinks the water too quickly.
Speaker 3: I don't water it in time, and it droops again.
Speaker 3: And so it's just kind of this endless cycle of
Speaker 3: abuse between me and the plant. But I do feel
Speaker 3: like it's a gift. Yeah, but it's a curse.
Speaker 2: Correct, It's a gift. I mean what you've just described.
Speaker 2: You can have your own little psycho situation. You have
Speaker 2: this captive. You get to play your own little psycho
Speaker 2: game with the plant. Also, it's a nice way to
Speaker 2: let your friends know that you're hanging by a thread.
Speaker 2: You invite them over and they see that out of
Speaker 2: the corner of their eye you're serving them this tea.
Speaker 2: It seems okay. Then they're like, I think something is
Speaker 2: going on with Finny, so let's all be sensitive to
Speaker 2: him right now. Reach out when you can. What kind
Speaker 2: of plant is yours that you abuse. There is one
Speaker 2: plant that I have in the house that like really
Speaker 2: lets me know that it's getting sick, which I appreciate actually,
Speaker 2: because the rest of them kind of keep to themselves
Speaker 2: until they're dying, until they're basically off the right beyond help.
Speaker 2: This one. It has kind of some dark leaves and
Speaker 2: it totally freaks out when it's dry. I put it
Speaker 2: under some water. Half hour later it's back and healthy again.
Speaker 2: So I do appreciate being able to it gives. It's
Speaker 2: a bit of a God complex situation, absolutely, just like
Speaker 2: you depend on me, and what is God if not complex? Yes,
Speaker 2: so kind of the psycho element of it ultimately is
Speaker 2: a gift. Okay, you've gone two out of three. We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens with this third one. This is from
Speaker 2: a listener named Paul. Oh, this is interesting. This is
Speaker 2: kind of connected to the last one. We've got a
Speaker 2: dying theme gift or a curse. People who tell you
Speaker 2: they have been legally declared dead for fifteen minutes. Oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, and you're asking about not the experience itself,
Speaker 3: but the people who tell you about their experience are dead.
Speaker 2: I would say it's a curse.
Speaker 3: If they all saw the same thing, I would say
Speaker 3: it's a gift, but they rarely do. And also, if
Speaker 3: you were dead for fifteen minutes, you weren't dead. I'm
Speaker 3: here to tell you that you were barely alive, which
Speaker 3: is different dead for fifteen minutes. If your brain didn't
Speaker 3: have oxygen for fifteen minutes, you would not be telling
Speaker 3: me the fun story about you being dead for fifteen minutes. Yeah, Vinnie,
Speaker 3: I can't believe this move. I think you might be
Speaker 3: the second winner in a row.
Speaker 2: The game is falling apart. Are you kidding me? It's
Speaker 2: absolutely a curse, Yes, very much, for the same reasons.
Speaker 2: You were not dead there simply were not dead unless
Speaker 2: legally declared. What are we talking about. Did you have
Speaker 2: a notary come in and stamp the certificate? Like, sit
Speaker 2: up your body? Did they get your somebody to come
Speaker 2: identify your body that quickly? Yeah, you weren't dead, baby, No,
Speaker 2: you were just you were in between states exactly second
Speaker 2: of all fifteen minutes. Anyway, anybody can do anything for
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. It's not that impressive come back when it's
Speaker 2: been like six hours. I was dead for six hours. Okay,
Speaker 2: now I'm starting to believe you were dead.
Speaker 3: A seal can hold its breath for fifteen minutes. Do
Speaker 3: you think I care if you died for fifteen minutes?
Speaker 2: Hold my breath for fifteen minutes. I haven't tried, but
Speaker 2: I'm sure I could. We'll get there. Get there, gig.
Speaker 2: It might lead to me being legally declared dead for
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. But then I've done two things in a day,
Speaker 2: of course, and what has this person done? Died? It's nothing.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is lie down. It's not
Speaker 2: interesting now, of course not. It's boring. You should have
Speaker 2: been doing You could have been doing something with your
Speaker 2: time with those fifteen minutes. You could have painted a
Speaker 2: picture called a friend. Instead you were lying on a
Speaker 2: table somewhere, ready to brag about this at a party.
Speaker 2: Could have done like sixteen backflips. You could have done
Speaker 2: at least sixteen very slow backflips. Wait are they faster?
Speaker 2: I've never done a backlip. I feel like a backflip
Speaker 2: takes about three seconds. You can do a backlib. I
Speaker 2: can do it. Yeah. That's kind of how I launched
Speaker 2: this podcast. I came to the network and I said,
Speaker 2: would you like a host who can do a backflip,
Speaker 2: as Dylan adlerman on you he has Can he do
Speaker 2: a backflip? Have you not? He?
Speaker 3: He had this whole debacle where he was He went
Speaker 3: to Universal Studios and there were a bunch of kids
Speaker 3: gathered around watching the They were like Harry Potter dancers
Speaker 3: doing their little dance and Dylan walks in between the
Speaker 3: audience and those dancers and does a flip and then
Speaker 3: like like walks away and like shrugs, and he got
Speaker 3: so much hate online. Is the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 3: How did I miss?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 3: Was like, look at the attention whore doing backflips at
Speaker 3: Universal in front of children, and I can't believe it
Speaker 3: was really funny. Just look up Dylan Adler backflip.
Speaker 2: It also makes perfect sense for Dylan Adler as a
Speaker 2: person who's such a sweetheart but also uh, can get
Speaker 2: attention very quickly, addicted to being seen, yes, absolutely, but
Speaker 2: also like not doesn't want to be seen. He's such
Speaker 2: a complicated person in such a fun one. Hey, uh
Speaker 2: huh to be in the middle of a Universal Studios
Speaker 2: showing up a bunch of teens, I'm so excited for
Speaker 2: you to see this eventually, you're really gonna love it. Well,
Speaker 2: you won the game. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: It's a little upsetting. We've got to make the game harder.
Speaker 2: Onal's now Anali's has their own version of gift or
Speaker 2: a curse? Onalise, what is yours for today?
Speaker 4: Gift or a curse? Clapping for Nicole Kidman at AMC
Speaker 4: do you want to go?
Speaker 2: Where should I go? You go? Curse? Are you kidding me? Wow?
Speaker 2: What year? What year is it? At this point? The
Speaker 2: fact that people are still doing this, I'm sorry to
Speaker 2: rain on everybody's parade, but I'm I'm sorry the fun
Speaker 2: we had with the Nicole Kidman in those first two
Speaker 2: weeks of twenty twenty two or whatever the hell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we've got to put it behind us, I think.
Speaker 3: And I was a little thrown at first because you
Speaker 3: did say, clapping for Nicole Kidman. I thought, like in general,
Speaker 3: like especially early on, it was beautiful. It was like
Speaker 3: the pledge of allegiance for people who were kind of lonely.
Speaker 3: And now it's just especially because they've cut it short.
Speaker 3: You go to MC now and it's like two seconds,
Speaker 3: like we love movies, and they cut it and it's
Speaker 3: like a trailer, right, so I would say it is
Speaker 3: now cross the line into curse.
Speaker 2: It's a curse territory of like dressing up as Walter
Speaker 2: White for Halloween, where it's just like, I think we
Speaker 2: left that behind us a long time ago. Actually we're different.
Speaker 2: That's insane.
Speaker 3: If someone dressed like Walter White for Halloween now, that
Speaker 3: would be amazing.
Speaker 2: I guess we've probably crossed the threshold of it, like
Speaker 2: being an old idea for a costume into a new.
Speaker 3: I think you don't experience whimsy. I think that's most
Speaker 3: of your problem. I think most of your problems are
Speaker 3: derived from the fact that you don't experience.
Speaker 2: People clapping for Nicole Kidman's AMC commercial. Now that is
Speaker 2: not whimsical. That's irritating. There was there was a period
Speaker 2: when it was whimsical. Yeah yeah, but now it's a
Speaker 2: I saw people clapping about it online and now I'm
Speaker 2: on the train one hundred years late.
Speaker 3: If they kept redoing it and making it like different
Speaker 3: and better and like heightening it, sure, absolutely, but they've
Speaker 3: kept it the same, which is crazy.
Speaker 4: Us.
Speaker 2: We all clapped four years ago. Probably every month. She
Speaker 2: should be doing something. In addition, to by. Now she
Speaker 2: should be like riding a bike up the stairs. Lie
Speaker 2: from New York. It's the movie you're watching, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Hula hoop?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, riding a horse, firing a gun.
Speaker 2: Riding a horse, firing a gun. Yes, at the horse.
Speaker 2: Time for the movies to begin. On it, just on.
Speaker 3: At least you have final answer on a least killing
Speaker 3: a horse while on it.
Speaker 2: It's a gift, you guys, gift.
Speaker 4: It will always be a kidding me. How many things
Speaker 4: can unite us still and conservatives on the bandwagon. Once
Speaker 4: they do a new one, Okay, they've.
Speaker 2: Got to bring in a new celebrity. At this point,
Speaker 2: they've killed it. They have killed it. They've got to
Speaker 2: bring a new celeb Yeah, Keith Urban Is right there,
Speaker 2: Shut up, you beast, Keith Urban. We would all so
Speaker 2: shocked and confused. We would be clapping out of confusion,
Speaker 2: you little creature. Keith urban Is. So that's such a
Speaker 2: strange pull. It's it's oh fuck is he? I just
Speaker 2: think it's so sad. That was such a weird poll
Speaker 2: for AMC. Exactly. That's what they need to do. They've
Speaker 2: got to really go. They've got to make a turn
Speaker 2: that nobody's expecting. Michelle Liah Michelle, Yeah, Honalsalis, you are
Speaker 2: you are off a la then ice is all I'm
Speaker 2: going to say. Boots then ice period. We're going to
Speaker 2: limit your time on the microphone. Yeah, I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: a button that I'm gonna be able to push to
Speaker 2: let you into the pod. And you know we're gonna
Speaker 2: limit your time in the sunshine as well. Well, we
Speaker 2: were both correct here. Okay, Well did you you said
Speaker 2: curseor I think ur I kind of dragged you in? Uh,
Speaker 2: Analis's Unfortunately, we're starting to question their value as a producer,
Speaker 2: which is tough. Uh. This is the final say of
Speaker 2: the podcast. People write into I said no gifts at
Speaker 2: gmail dot com, begging for answers to life's issues, gift
Speaker 2: giving issues, this kind of thing. Will you help me
Speaker 2: answer a listener question? Yes, okay, let me get into
Speaker 2: the document here. Okay, this says dear Bridger and guest.
Speaker 2: My brother A is getting married soon to a woman
Speaker 2: I genuinely adore who I'll call N. Earlier this fall,
Speaker 2: I threw the bridle shower for N. I'm sorry this
Speaker 2: person put the letters at the initials and quotes. Huh. Now,
Speaker 2: I threw the bridle shower for N, which ended up
Speaker 2: costing more than expected. I bought a gift from the
Speaker 2: registry for the bridal shower. I am also a bridesmaid
Speaker 2: and have to pay for and have paid for the dress,
Speaker 2: hair and make up for the day of the wedding.
Speaker 2: Now I don't have a budget to get them another gift.
Speaker 2: How do I explain to my brother and N that
Speaker 2: I have already given them their wedding gift in a
Speaker 2: tasteful way. I don't want to. I don't want them
Speaker 2: to think I'm being cheap. Also ends love languages gifts.
Speaker 2: Who isn't At this point I hear this all the time.
Speaker 2: Also ends love language is gifts. So should I just
Speaker 2: suck it up and get them another gift? We are
Speaker 2: southern of the themes the way they tie in. Lord,
Speaker 2: we are southern and pathologically non confrontational, so any help
Speaker 2: is appreciated. Thanks. That's from L.
Speaker 3: Let me start by saying this. You know what's a
Speaker 3: free gift? The gift of tongues?
Speaker 2: A trip to church? A trip to church. I don't know.
Speaker 3: People are allergic to making things. Now, if you want
Speaker 3: to give a gift. You can make.
Speaker 2: Things and you don't have to spend any money.
Speaker 3: Grab some old coupons, make an or got me crane,
Speaker 3: make a little note, say I hope you enjoyed all
Speaker 3: the shit I gave you before, you know, in like
Speaker 3: a polite way.
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm so proud of you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Or make make your sister feel bad, Say I've fallen
Speaker 3: on some hard times.
Speaker 2: I'm really This is kind of my usual way of
Speaker 2: going about things to tell people kind of the sick plant.
Speaker 2: Start carrying the sick plant around. Walk up to you, Droopy,
Speaker 2: it's your wedding date. Yeah, I think you're fine. If
Speaker 2: you take a sick plant to this wedding, there will
Speaker 2: that will there will be no questions about gifts. They
Speaker 2: won't be thinking about that in any way. They'll be
Speaker 2: thinking about ell Leah Michelle, why did you bring the
Speaker 2: sick plant to the wedding? To me? And Nicole Kidman
Speaker 2: and Nicole Kidman and a Andrew Keith we all know
Speaker 2: his first name is Andrew. Absolutely couldn't have made a
Speaker 2: career out of Andrew Urban No, absolutely Keith's that was
Speaker 2: the key to his success. I think even if you
Speaker 2: don't get any gift. Here's what she's gonna do. She's
Speaker 2: gonna think to herself, why didn't they get me a gift?
Speaker 2: And if she's smart, she'll put it together. And if
Speaker 2: she's not smart, really don't worry about it. You're gonna
Speaker 2: learn something about N's character here, because if N comes
Speaker 2: around demanding a gift or whatever, you know, you can
Speaker 2: kind of cut her off. Absolutely. She doesn't say anything.
Speaker 2: You think, oh she was taking. Well, now we can
Speaker 2: move on with our lives exactly. This is a sister
Speaker 2: in law I can now trust perfect Leah, don't write
Speaker 2: back in.
Speaker 3: It's a simple problem, Leah, simple, clear cut. If you
Speaker 3: do make up some names, don't just use a letter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, make up, use your imaginations. We just did this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got to the bottom of Keith Urban's first name
Speaker 2: and almost a split second. And meanwhile, this person is
Speaker 2: so worried about giving gifts that they can't come up
Speaker 2: with three imaginary names. No embarrassing, it's humiliating. Use chat GPT.
Speaker 2: This is why we're throwing away water. Don't do that.
Speaker 2: It's to create fake names for letters to podcast. You
Speaker 2: have to cut this, you have to cut get on
Speaker 2: chat GPT say I need three names. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: speed up the water warst GBT for three names is hilarious.
Speaker 2: You are three functioning member of society. They have to
Speaker 2: like kill a penguin in order to run the system.
Speaker 2: Blood everywhere to find out a nance you, Lisa, And
Speaker 2: what is a third a name? Aaron? Aaron, Aaron, Get
Speaker 2: on chat EPT, don't don't do it well? We answered
Speaker 2: the question perfectly, I think so. I have yet again
Speaker 2: another beautiful box of tea that will last me for
Speaker 2: who knows how long. But hope this always comes handy.
Speaker 2: When I'm sick, I put a squirt of actual lemon
Speaker 2: in there. I'm on top of the world. Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: drink it when you're healthy too. It's nice. I want
Speaker 2: to think of you when I'm sick, when I'm at
Speaker 2: my lowest, hanging by a thread. Does it happen a lot?
Speaker 2: I hope it happens a lot. I'm sick constantly yay
Speaker 2: in and out of the hospital, and I take my
Speaker 2: tea at the hospital. Of course, they I'm a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Go into the e R. They ask me if I
Speaker 2: want the usual, bring me my mulanos and lemon lemon
Speaker 2: loaf tea. Well, thank you for the tea, thank you
Speaker 2: for being here, thank you for having me and listener,
Speaker 2: the podcast is over. There's nothing you can do to
Speaker 2: stop what's about to happen. Despite everything in your world
Speaker 2: and how dark things are about to get for you, you
Speaker 2: have to stop listening to the podcast. I love you, goodbye.
Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our
Speaker 2: senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are
Speaker 2: beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by
Speaker 2: miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without
Speaker 2: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on
Speaker 2: Instagram at I said No Gifts, that's where you're going
Speaker 2: to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.
Speaker 2: And don't you want to see the gifts? And why
Speaker 2: did you hear? Fun? A man?
Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear, But you're a guess, Tom.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty And.
Speaker 2: I said, no, guest.
Speaker 1: Your own presences presents enough that I already had too
Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me