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John Middlecoff former NFL scout with the Eagles. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: His podcast is three and Out. All right, let's talk 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: college football. So road teams Tennessee Hammered, Indiana doutless performance. Boy, 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: is that Kurt Signetti talks a big game and doesn't 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: back it up smu Hammered. Clemson did throw it for 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty six yards, but they were outmatched. 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: I thought the best get bet of the weekend was 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Texas minus twelve and a half at home, and I 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: thought Clemson played about as well as they could and 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: they still got beat by fourteen. But I want to 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: say this, so this is a twelve team playoff that 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: will become fourteen pretty soon and maybe sixteen. The reason 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: we have the playoff it was negotiated, like, these aren't 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: the twelve best teams in terms of NFL athletes. That's 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: not what it is. The reason this is allowed is 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: because there was a lot of negotiation. The Mountain West 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: gets involved. Everything was negotiated. So it's not going to 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: be seven SEC teams and five Big ten teams. That's 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: not what it's going to be. But the other thing 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: is most of my life I remember arguing this. I'm 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: not even sure if I was at Fox or ESPN, 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: but I used to be against the playoff because my 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: argument was always this, have you ever thought in your 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: life the sixth best team in college football by the 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: end of the year could beat the number one team? 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: And my answer is no. I mean when Nick Saban's 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: fifteen year run, most of his teams there were only 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: two to three teams in the country that could play 38 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: with them, Clemson with Trevor Lawrence, Ordashawn, Ohio State, Georgia, 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: maybe an LSU team that could play with them. So 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: with the time you would get to like the fifth, sixth, 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: seventh team, especially if the first round was in Tusca Loosa. 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: They were going to kick the holy hell out of 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: anybody they played. So the idea that Ohio State or 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: Penn State or Notre Dame in a home game. Now 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: we go to neutral sites, we'll have an upset this weekend. 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: But my take is we're overreacting a little bit. Now. Again, 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: I thought Tennessee in Indiana would play close because I 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: thought weather would be such a factor, but it was 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: just cold and clear. But we've got to be honest 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: about this. When Pete Carroll was rolling at usc or 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: you know again the Nick Saban or Kirby Smart for 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: about a three year run, there weren't five teams that 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: could go toe to toe with them. The only think 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: it maybe be the natty game of Michigan or or 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: in Ohio State. So I think this was not predictable. 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: But I think we're overreacting because coming up now, John, 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: now we've got neutral sight games. I could I would 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: bet almost anything we're gonna have an upset. One of 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: the underdogs is gonna win. I think we're overreacting a 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: bit to a twelve team playoff that was negotiated. You're 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: just gonna get some Boise States in this thing, and 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: some ACC teams in. 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think it's twofold. First, I can't 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: expect it to be perfect year one. This isn't year six, 65 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: this is year one. On the flip side, I see 66 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: a lot of pushback of everyone complaining that you shouldn't complain, 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: we should celebrate this, and it's like, I don't know. 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this all exists because millions upon millions of 69 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: people give their time to be entertained. And I've been 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: watching football my entire life and I've I don't ever 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: remember before this year watching Indiana and Indiana and did 72 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: get the benefit of the doubt right in most people's eyes, 73 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: because it's like, we don't know you. You don't have 74 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: any NFL players? Who did you beat this year? In 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: the NFL? If you make the playoffs, you it's impossible 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: to not beat some good teams. Plus even the bad 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: teams you're beating are full of pros. I texted around 78 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: some college scouting directors. I said, how many combined NFL 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: players do SMU and Indiana have? And he said, I 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: will have to see some All Star game stuff, but 81 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: probably five total. I said, South Carolina Ole miss Alabama, 82 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: he'd say probably on average low end seven for a team, 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean Bama eight nine. So the talent, the physicality, 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: like Tennessee got their asking. If you just watched Tennessee 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: move around. The quarterback is a young, frenetic player right now. 86 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: Their talent on the team is immense. And Indiana we 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: basically lumped in the Big Ten and the SEC as equals. 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: And because Washington, who was in the Natty last year, 89 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: lost their coach and all their players, wasn't any good. 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: Was supposed to be good, not any good. Michigan obviously 91 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: lost seventeen NFL guys and their coach fell off a cliff. 92 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: So they had three SEC teams Penn State, obviously, Oregon, 93 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: Ohio State, but the rest of the conference for it 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: was really bad. Right, So it turns out Indiana, like 95 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: I just think they're not very good relative to the 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: SEC teams, Like I don't think they could beat any 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: of them, and I think, but they went eleven and 98 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: one and some of these other teams went nine and three. 99 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: This is in the NFL records like they would I said, 100 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: we're comparing apples to cheeseburgers. So trying to do these 101 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: records because in theory it makes sense. Well they were 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: eleven in one because that's how it's always worked, and 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: I just go, I don't know. So I think we 104 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: look back at at it in Indiana and SMU, two 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: things can be true. Indiana had a remarkable season, the 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: best season in the history of the school by a mile, 107 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: and they're probably not a top twenty, Like are they 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: better in Colorado? I just looked at the top twenty 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: five yesterday. It's like, well, Colorado's got a top ten 110 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: quarterback probably Micah one and the best player in the country. Indiana. 111 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm watching them, like, do they even have a pro 112 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: their solid defense? SMU, I mean that was like JV 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: Verus farsity. 114 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: I mean their quarterback was completely overwhelmed and the ACC 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: is terrible, so of course it's overwhelmed. They don't have 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: the talent. Who did they beat? So I think that 118 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: moving forward, just because you have two more wins in 119 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: a bad conference. This isn't the NCAA tournament where they're 120 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: sixty four teams, like whatever, just throw this team the 121 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: seventh seed. We only had twelve spots, and I thought 122 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: we got pretty let down. For a lot of people 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: that dedicate a lot of time don't even have a 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: horse in the race. They just want to be entertained. 125 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: You're like, this doesn't look. 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Right well, and also it's going to get potentially worse 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: because if you really look at Washington, they have an 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: excellent young quarterback and Jetfish had a great recruiting year. 129 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: So Washington's going to be interesting team. Next they'll be back, 130 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: they'll be a top twenty team. Michigan just got the 131 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: best quarterback and again they recruited at a very high level. 132 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Michigan will be viable. I just saw this weekend, USC 133 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: went and bought to SEC defensive linemen, so I and 134 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: their schedule is pretty weak by Big Ten standards. So 135 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: my takeaway is the Big Ten, to your point, was 136 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: top heavy and very weak. I don't think it'll be 137 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: that next year. I think Ohio State will still be great, 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: but I think Michigan, USC, Washington will be much better. 139 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: And I think Oregon's and Penn State are going to 140 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: remain powers because Landing and James Franklin are top ten 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: recruiters easily in the country. So I think this year 142 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: we got Indiana, not that it's a one off, I 143 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: did I kind of felt like when I was watching 144 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Indiana play, it's not that they lost, it's that if 145 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: I told you it was twenty seven to seventeen and 146 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: you didn't watch the game, you'd be like, Okay, that 147 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: was a game. Indiana was so gutless punting down three 148 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: score second have in plus territory. I think it really 149 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: it was the way Indiana lost, which was like we 150 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: just we know we can't compete. We don't want to 151 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: be humiliated, so we're just gonna try. I think that 152 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: really pissed people off. It was like, Okay, if you're 153 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna play like that, just put ole Miss in the turn. 154 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: I thought of a rule that if you were on 155 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: the fence of a couple teams, that you have to 156 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: have minimum more than two guys on each side of 157 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: the ball that would start for your opponent. And did 158 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: Indiana have four guys on their starting twenty two that 159 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: would start for Notre Dame? Do they have one? Maybe? 160 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: How many guys on SMUs starting eleven on offensive defense 161 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: would start for Penn State. 162 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: Two? 163 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: Maybe? Where that's the that's the argument for or Ole Miss, 164 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: South Carolina and Alabama. Yeah, they might not have won, 165 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have, but I know the talent discrepancy, Like 166 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: I don't have a big issue with Tennessee getting their 167 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: askit because I don't think the talent discrepancy. Ohio State's 168 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: better and I mean could win the national championship pretty easily, 169 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: but like Tennessee, you could tell physically it's like a 170 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: quarterback is throwing the ball over the map. They got 171 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: NFL players all over the field, So I could live 172 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: with that game. I can't live with the Indiana game, 173 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: where it's like I've never watched this program. I've been 174 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: watching college football for three decades and I can I 175 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: do this for a living, so I know, well, they 176 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: don't have any talents. So it's like what's going on? 177 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: And then Signetti, I think some of his comments to 178 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: Sabin before the game, bragging out. I looked at their schedule. 179 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: They go two Penn State, two Oregon to Iowa, and 180 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: like you said, the Big Ten's going to be better. 181 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: That game is going to be circled. The Big Ten 182 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: coaches are going to want to beat the shit out 183 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: of him. I will be stunned. Six and six. They 184 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: are going to be a target next year, and I 185 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: hope they enjoyed this year because it's not going to 186 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: be like that moving forward. I'll promise you that. 187 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: So before we get to the quarterfinal games, I do 188 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: think we have a potential upset. Listen Tennessee, Ohio State, 189 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Day. The critics can go back to their reddit boards. 190 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: But here's what I really took away. Clemson. They deserve credit. 191 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: They fought to the very end, and they don't have again, 192 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: they don't have transfer portal guys, and they don't recruit. 193 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Even when Dabo was winning a NADDY, they didn't recruit 194 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: like Alabama and Georgia LSU. They never have. They just 195 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: don't and they don't use a transfer portal. So I 196 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: think Dabo's a hell of a coach. But my takeaway 197 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: on that is if Ohio States, if Will Howard is 198 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: as good as he was against Tennessee, I don't know 199 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: how Texas stops them. I mean, Clemson was throwing the 200 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: ball all over the yard. They were throwing it up 201 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: the sideline, out of the backfield, seam routes. I mean, 202 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: when you think of Clemson, you don't think three hundred 203 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and fifty yards passing. I know Texas won thirty eight 204 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: twenty four but that twenty four points. I looked at 205 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: that and I thought, Jesus Texas plays Arizona State next 206 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point favorite. Maybe that's not an issue, 207 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: But if I'm Ohio State in my passing game, I 208 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: after this weekend, Ohio State's my favorite to win the 209 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: national championship, not Texas. I was almost dismayed. Not just 210 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: that Clemson through but the variety of throws, the third 211 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: down throws, the wide open targets in the middle of 212 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: the field. 213 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: It was startling to me, Well, their quarterbacks really come along. 214 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he's the guy to keep it. If he 215 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: goes back to school, I mean, I think he'll be 216 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: in consideration to have a chance to be a really 217 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: high draft pick in twenty twenty six. That kid's really 218 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: gotten a lot better since that first game at Georgia, 219 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: and last year was pretty bumpy. I like kid club 220 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: Nick a lot, and they had one of the great 221 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: I think freshman recruiting classes at wide receiver in recent memory, 222 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: those couple five star kids. But to me, Sark has 223 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: had to coach around Quinn Yewers a lot of the year. 224 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: And you see that we talk about coaching with some 225 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: of these young rookie quarterbacks. What do you call on 226 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: third and seven? Or are you willing to call something 227 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: aggressive on second and ten? Are you just trying to 228 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: thrown like a screen or you know, a draw play. 229 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: I think he coaches around Quinn. You were because to me, 230 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: he is a pretty big roller coaster. You don't know 231 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: what you're getting series to series. And this is where 232 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: you know the seeding. When Ohio State's on me and 233 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: they showed up in that game, you went, holy hell, 234 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: I know. It was like why they were hitting guys 235 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: like they were, you know, Dre Greenlawn and Fred Warner. 236 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: It's like the defense, how good Jeremiah Smith is? Will 237 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: Howard looked like Peyton Manning the games of his life. Yeah, 238 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: and Ryan Day listen, they'd had a long time to 239 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: soak up that loss coming at home. I listened. I 240 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: picked Tennessee. Five minutes into that game, you went, this 241 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: could be fifty to nothing. This team is going to 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: try to injure everyone inside. Can they keep that up 243 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: again again? You know, Dan Lanning, this is where Oregon 244 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: got screwed. They have to play that team in their 245 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: opening game after rose Bolt, which is not a huge advantage. 246 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: Because it's not like Ohio State fans aren't used to 247 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: travel into that game, which is a cool game that 248 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: the rose Ball gets Oregon Ohio State. 249 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: That's good. That makes set a record, that the ratings 250 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: for that game may set a college football non national 251 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: championship record. I'm not joking. 252 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: I think if you're Oregon, you just go. We had 253 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: the best season where the only undefeated team and Penn 254 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: State gets to play Boise and Texas gets the players 255 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: on the state and we got to play that the 256 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: biggest payroll in the history of college football with NFL 257 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: guys all over that we had to like knock down, 258 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: drag out to beat at home. That's that sucks for them. Yeah, 259 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: you know a team that's never won a national championship 260 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: that if I told you right now they were getting 261 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: a good draw, you would like them a lot more. 262 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: But you're like, damn they they'd have to go through 263 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: three tough games, right, They'd have to beat Ohio State, 264 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: they have to beat Texas, and then they probably have 265 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: to beat Penn State or Georgia. I mean, that's that's 266 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: a murderer's row. So and they had to beat Penn State, 267 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: you know, to in the conference championship. So I listen, 268 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: if if Oregon were to win a national championship, it 269 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: would be really, really impressive. I can't take Texas because 270 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: of the quarterback, but their talent on the team. I mean, 271 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: there were that goal line stopped that they had basically 272 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: end of the game. Again, they can really rev it up. 273 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: I mean they got guys on defense. You're like, holy shit, 274 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: and you know the skill. Their two running backs are 275 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: really good. I just the quarterback. If you told me 276 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: Caide Club Nick Clemson quarterback was Texas quarterback, I'd be like, 277 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: watch out for they might be my pick. And I 278 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: just is Will Howard going to play like that every game? 279 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: Is he going to play like that against Dan Lanning's 280 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: defense is if he does, they'll probably win. Right. If 281 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: he's gonna If he's going to be Peyton Manning junior, 282 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: then Ohio State's gonna be a serious problem for anyone 283 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: they're playing. 284 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: Okay, let's wrap it up. Penn State minus eleven against 285 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: Boise State. I actually think jenty run he ran for 286 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: almost tuner yards against Oregon. I think these are neutral 287 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: site games. Now it's a whole different ballgame in college football, 288 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: totally yeah, the college football team. You know, the seventy 289 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: percent of NFL games are one score, one possession games. 290 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: That's not college football. Home teams win. I think Boise State. 291 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: I think Boise State is going to be you know, 292 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Penn State may be lulled to sleep opening with SMU 293 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: at home blowing them out, and now they look at 294 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: see Boise State hard to get that locker room revved up. 295 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: SMU is a bigger name to some of those Penn 296 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: State players than Boise State. They couldn't you know, they 297 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: don't even know help. Most college players out east don't 298 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: know much about Boise State. Can Boise State hang with them? 299 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: I think they can. 300 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: I do think Penn State's lucky that they got this 301 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: generational player on Boise State. It's an easy one for 302 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator circle. I mean, this guy had like 303 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: a Barry Sanders Oklahoma state level season. So it's to 304 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: me if they were much more of like the Kellen Moore, 305 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: more of a complete team than a one man band, 306 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: I think it would be a little different. You might 307 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: look down upon them, but I think when you're playing 308 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: a guy that just sitting next to Travis Hunter on 309 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: that Saturday night at the Heisman Trophy, it's easier to 310 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: get up. I also think, and this is my our like, listen, 311 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: I started my career in the Whack, which basically turned 312 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: in the Mountain West. The difference of size and strength 313 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage. We saw it in Indiana 314 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: and SMU against You know, their two opponents at the 315 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and Penn State just overwhelmed them at the 316 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage on defense. And I don't know if 317 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: Boise State their passing offense isn't good enough. So I'm 318 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: putting ten guys in the box be like, we are 319 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: you gonna throw on me? And I think it's a 320 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: very very tough matchup for Boise State. I also think 321 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: Penn State if this was the NFL and these games 322 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: were out in the cold weather, I think Penn State 323 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: and Notre Dame would be built for it. Play defense, 324 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: run the ball down your throat, play like the forty 325 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: nine ers did with Jimmy Garoppolo. We're just gonna freezing 326 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: cold weather, let's roll. I mean, you watch Notre Dame. 327 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: They would love every game at nineteen degrees because that's 328 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: in same with Penn State. Freezing cold snow rain, that's 329 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: how they would want to play. That's where these neutral 330 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: site games, you know. I think Notre Dame is a 331 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: good example, Like I actually kind of like them against Georgia, 332 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: but then put them in a dome. But you put 333 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: them in a dome, it does take away there. Straight. 334 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: If you told me that game was outside in a 335 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: cold weather spot, I'd be like, George is in for it. 336 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: In a dome team speed, Georgia is gonna be a 337 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: little faster, but Notre Dame can definitely win that game. Listen. 338 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: I love Boise State and rooting for him for a 339 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: long time. I think there's a really really tough matchup 340 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: for them. Same with that state. 341 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think Penn State's gonna win. I think 342 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: your point on Notre Dame Georgia is well taken. Texas 343 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: should beat Arizona State. So I said before the year, 344 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I thought Oregon would beat Ohio State at Autson. I 345 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: thought Ohio State would beat Oregon on the second matchup. 346 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: I think I like Ohio State to win and cover 347 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: against the Ducks. 348 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: I think one big difference between Penn State, Georgia and 349 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Then the other three top teams in Texas, Oregon, 350 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: Ohio State, they are so explosive on the outside, like 351 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: they feel like an NFL team at wide receiver in 352 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: the skill position. Penn State and Notre Dame just don't. 353 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: Penn State's tight end is gonna be a top twenty player, 354 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: but they are not as explosive at the wide receiver position. 355 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: So I mean, like you said, I think Oregon, Ohio State. 356 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 2: I mean that could feel like the National championship game. 357 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: And I think Texas if the quarterback can just play 358 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: under control, which he's proven he can't really for four quarters, 359 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: they could be pretty I just don't trust him. And 360 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: Notre Dame Georgia, whoever wins that game, might be Honestly, 361 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: I kind of like the draw for Penn State. Penn 362 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: State plays Boise, wins that game and then plays that 363 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: Penn State in Texas are gonna get putent. I mean, 364 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: their enormous favorites, favorites in the second round are gonna 365 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: be playing two teams. They're gonna be coming out of 366 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: a war zone. I mean Ohio State and Oregon and 367 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: Notre Dame in Georgia. Bodies are gonna be left on 368 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: the field in that game. So I think that is 369 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: a massive advantage if both those if Texas and Penn 370 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: State take care of business. I mean Ohio State pulled 371 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: out their quarterback with nine minutes to go in the game. 372 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what we're going to see in this playoff, 373 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: and let's go back to the playoff as a whole, 374 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: is I think it's going to expand to fourteen teams 375 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: and possibly sixteen. On any given Saturday, you may get 376 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: three really great games between good teams. There's a lot 377 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: of blowouts in college football. It's just the way the 378 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: sport works. It's it's of all the American sports team sports, 379 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: it's the most have and have not sport, even you 380 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: know baseball. Obviously now with the regional network's dying, it's 381 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: getting more have and have not. There's like six teams 382 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: that have money and like twenty six or twenty four 383 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: that don't. But I think the neutral site games, I 384 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: think Oregon Ohio State is going to feel like USC Texas. 385 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: Remember that game with the stealth fighters flying over where 386 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: you have like eighteen pros. The first game was great. 387 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: I think Ohio State Oregon becomes the game of the year. 388 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: I also think it is hard to play perfect football. 389 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: Back to back weeks. Ohio State was nearly perfect. It's 390 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: hard to duplicate that on back to back weeks. 391 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: I also think that these guys have never played a 392 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: season this long, right, I mean a lot of these 393 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: teams played in conference championship games. Some of the teams 394 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: that didn't just play this first round. I mean you 395 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: start looking ahead, they still got three more games. I mean, 396 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: and you saw some just collateral damage. As you know, 397 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: notre dame at defensive lineman get banged up. You're talking 398 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: about by the time you get to the semi finals, 399 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: can you stay healthy enough? Which which honestly could just 400 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: be a determining factor for whoever wins it just a 401 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: team with the most health because we've been hammering at 402 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: home and these coaches have been these teams. The depth 403 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: isn't near the same, you know, in the peak of 404 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: the saban Era. So what I lost a first rounder, 405 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: I got a nineteen year old first rounder behind them? Right, 406 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: those days are done. I mean there's a massive drop off. 407 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: Some of these teams are and guys, Ohio State put 408 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: a quarterback in the game when they yank Will Howard, 409 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: he's in the transfer portal and Ryan Day had to 410 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: have a talk with this team, like, hey, guys, are 411 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: we cool with keeping him around? You know these cause 412 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: these guys are in weird spots. Penn State's backup quarterback 413 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: is gone, so and that's not obviously we talk a 414 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: lot about the quarterbacks, but it could be you know, 415 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 2: a backup linebacker, a freshman kid that might have had 416 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: to be thrust in if someone got injured. So we 417 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: got a long way to go. I mean this is 418 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: you see, the NFL guys are dropping like flies in college. 419 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: These guys aren't as big. They're not especially some of 420 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: these guys at eighteen nineteen years old that are playing. 421 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: Their bodies aren't as developed taking a lot of big hits. 422 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: It's not like the violence in these games. It's that 423 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: much different. I mean, how hard was Ohio State and 424 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and these teams hitting the physicality? And honestly, 425 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: I appreciate the one thing that jumped out to me 426 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: about this weekend, which was obviously a pretty big letdown 427 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: with the blowouts. Yeah, we talk about a lot about 428 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 2: nil and people not having it feels like guys are 429 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: mercenaries now. And maybe that's the case. But it does 430 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: feel like the guy's playing in the game are just 431 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: all in and trying their one effort, and you feel 432 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: that you know the teams is not like ten. None 433 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: of these teams took their foot off the pedal like pen. 434 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: Clemson just came back because they got NFL guys. It 435 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: wasn't like Texas stopped trying. 436 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Right John Middlecoff his podcast is three and out. 437 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: Good job, Buddy, Merry Christmas, going Merry Christmas. The volume