1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: the strated here of normalcy here, all right, another week. 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Here we are on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: one Bill's live. Good to be back in the saddle 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: after a long weekend for me and a lot of 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: college basketball, which we can get into a little bit later, 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: because I think I might have seen basketball get set 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: back four decades with the last game we had here 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. It was an abomination of the sport, and 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: we can get into that a little bit later. That 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: was terrible, absolutely terrible, borderline unwatchable. I've seen middle school 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: games run with more efficiency and precision than that game. 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: It was an abomination a minute. Don't sugarcoat it, though, 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: tell us about that last game. It was terrible. I 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: was turning into grumpy old man just watching it. Just Oh, 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: that's what I do. Stop shooting from twenty feats. When 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: you're two for thirteen from three point range, take it 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: to the basket. Please nobody again, I'll say this, I 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: did notice it. I didn't watch I have watched zero 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: college basketball this up until this last weekend. I saw some, 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch, But I am an NBA guy. 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: I'll watch it all NBA now, not not a whole 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: game or whatever. I'll watch a quarter or whatever while 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: I'm surfing. I'll make sure it's one of the stations 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I go to during you know what I mean, keep 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: track of it. And it's I am shocked. I guess 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be. I guess in the in basketball, the 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: jump from pro to college, from college to pro, actually 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: from college to pro is so is much more significant 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: in basketball than it is even in football. Oh you 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: think so. Absolutely. In football, it takes so many guys 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: playing so well, and plus you know it, it's just 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: harder to discern the subtle differences in the college and 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: pro game, particularly now that they're starting to the philosophies 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: are getting closer. You got throwing game, you got throwing teams. 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: In college football, you got you know, you got guys, 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: polished route runners. You got a little bit more sophistication 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: in in coverages. Because it used to be cover three, 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: roller cover you cover two, roller cover three. That was 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: it in college football. Now you've got a little more. 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, you got some man guys. So the games 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: are a little bit more closer in college and now 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the athleticism is different. But in basketball, from what I 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: saw this last weekend, the NCAA tournament jump into the pros, 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, they're light years behind these guys. The 48 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: college game is light years behind the NBA. I'm I 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: was shocked. Yeah, I saw what you I mean, like 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: bricks throwing up, they can't they get to the hoop 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: and they can't finish. You're like, this far away, you 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: gotta get the ball in. I was shocked. I was 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: really shocked. Now that's not just the games here, and 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: I didn't go to any of the games here in Buffalo. 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm watching the games everywhere. I was like, wow, that's 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: they're bad. Yeah, but it's exciting. We have Bills news. 57 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: First and foremost, Matt Barkley is back, officially signed his 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: one year contract here at the facility today, so news there, 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: and then Adam Schefter is now reporting from ESPN that 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: a potential JD. McKissick replacement has arrived in Buffalo. Veteran 61 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: running back Duke Johnson is reportedly set to sign a 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: one year deal that according to his agents. Obviously the 63 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Bills is an organization have not confirmed anything as if yet, 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: but it looks like they have found a replacement. Steve, 65 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, and we'll have Brandon being here 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: in studio in just a little bit. But I was 67 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: it was evident to me that the way that thing 68 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: went down, Brandon, and understandably so, was heated about that. Yeah, 69 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: it sounds like it sounds to me like the Washington 70 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: commanders didn't play nice in the sandbox at all and 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: broke some unwritten rules as far as how you handle 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: free agency, and that doesn't sit well very often with agents, 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: and it certainly doesn't sit well with competing clubs. I 74 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: said this last week, when you know, we got this 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: stuff about the agents and guys, you know, like this, 76 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: like the Mekissic thing um most and they said, yeah, 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: the agents always do that, and no, it's not the agents, 78 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: it's the players. And in this case, it doesn't seem 79 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: like that was totally the case. Most of the time, 80 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: these gms deal above board with each other because they 81 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: got to deal with them. Again, there's only thirty thirty 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: two guys and they've got to deal with each other. 83 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: And it might be a lynchpin player that you gotta 84 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: make and you don't want a bad relationship with those 85 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: guys to go back and you got to talk to 86 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: them again. So for the most part, all these deals 87 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: are done above board and say hey, and when when 88 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: one of these gems gets mad, it usually comes back 89 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: to being mad at a player, you know, the play. 90 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: It's the players that are It's always it's always the 91 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: players that are the problem. They're the ones that say, 92 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: now I don't want you know, I mean, you got 93 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: the I don't want to go to that team. Why not? 94 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: They're perfect for you think got that it's the best dealing. 95 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: He's now now I can't. They got their number. My 96 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: numbers retired over there. I go, what you gotta you're 97 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna get what because you got to wear a different number, 98 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So it's usually the player and 99 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: you can they you know, the blame. Now, the agents 100 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: will take the bullet. They'll say, no, I didn't let me, 101 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, and they can, they'll take the blame. But 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time, for me, it's always 103 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 1: the player, well, always the player. Even if the agent 104 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: says I did this, and I did that he's taken 105 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: the bullet for the player. Yeah, well, I mean, I 106 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: think based on what Brandon said, he said the agents 107 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: did right by the letter of the law. But either way, 108 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be a mood point. Now if these 109 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: reports are accurate from ESPN's Adam Schefter, that the Bills 110 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: are going to be signing running back Duke Johnson to 111 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: a one year deal. Duke Johnson, just twenty eight years old, 112 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: was with Miami last year for the for only five games, 113 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: did start four of them. You know, ran pretty well 114 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: average four point six to carry, which behind that offensive 115 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: line is saying something and has a history of being 116 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: a pretty darny good receiver. Had a career high receiving 117 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: season back in twenty seventeen when he had seventy four 118 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: receptions while he was with the Browns. So it's a 119 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: guy that's got some proven production in the league. So 120 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: be a nice addition to the mix. And it's this 121 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 1: could bury. This would very well be why why Brandon 122 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: is out of here yet He's probably he could be 123 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: very well finishing some business. Yeah, he might have something going. 124 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: It's yeah, because he was supposed to be here at 125 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: one um. But this too to me right now that 126 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: even with this you know, Duke Johnson stuff, now these guys, 127 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: now that everything's calmed down, now it starts to turn 128 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: into a math problem, you know. I mean it's just, oh, 129 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I think it turned in. I think it turned into 130 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: a math problem as soon as von Miller became an option. 131 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm interested to ask him about that. 132 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: You know, in terms of how many fiscal hoops did 133 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: he and Jim overdoorf and Kevin Meaghang have to jump 134 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: through to reallocate the funds. I read it on Twitter, 135 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: and I don't know that the bills have more cash 136 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: out of pocket now, Oh they have to. Well, you've 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: said on this year's roster. Yeah, you've said it all 138 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: all the time that you know when they when they restructure, 139 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: it's it's you got to have ownership right in checks. 140 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Because people are getting more money up front to spread 141 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: money on the deal. It's not so much that it's 142 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: different money and they got to spend more here. They 143 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: got they can spend all they want. What it is, 144 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: it's cash flow, right, you know you can you can 145 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: spend it now if you want to. But and you're 146 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna save it down the line, or you're not gonna 147 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: have to spend it, have it to save it down 148 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: on the cap, right, the cap is gonna keep you 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: from being able to spend it later, but you still 150 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: gotta have you gotta have money available. It's like like 151 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: you can just say, you know, I'll just switch it 152 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: from this bank account you're talking about you're talking about 153 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: real money. And here here he is. He's gonna come 154 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: in and join us now, and which is which is 155 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: highly unusual. But we'll make an exception. Yeah, we'll make 156 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: an exception. You can come in and sit down with 157 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: us and we Uh, by the way, congratulations, thanks for 158 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: coming in. I'm gonna I lowered my seat so you'd 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: be taller than me. Thank you. Body. Um, we do 160 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: a weekend, yeah, help, I do have to start here. 161 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: So I'm at the NCAA games on Saturday, and somebody's 162 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: sitting at the club level and all of a suddenly 163 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: flash your mug on the screen and there's I mean, 164 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you I'm sure you noticed this. 165 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: People have Bill's flags banners. We're at the NCAA Men's 166 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: basketball term and there's Bill's garb everywhere, but they flash 167 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: you up on the screen and all of a sudden, 168 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: people start going nuts. I was laughing out loud. It 169 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: was so hilarious and like you didn't even notice it 170 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: at first. Then you looked up and you're like, oh, geez, 171 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: not much embarrassed me. But I was not ready for that. 172 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I could tell. It was kind of the awkward way. 173 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: He was not silky smooth with that. I was not ready. 174 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: I was literally it was during live action. I'm watching 175 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: and you just feel something like changing on you and 176 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: I was like, looked up at the Scram'm like, oh no, 177 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: it was like you saw somebody. It was like he 178 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: was at it was like he was at a party 179 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: and he saw someone way on the other side. Oh hey, Yeah, 180 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready. That was great. It's been absolutely unexpected, 181 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: an enormous week for us. Give us give us your 182 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: take now, a little synopsis of what those days were 183 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: like last week. And because it was a roller coaster, 184 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: you went from the Mekissics stuff to the Vaughan Miller 185 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: stuff and I'm sure you were in the midst of 186 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: all of it at the same time. But give us 187 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: a little quick synopsis. Yeah, I mean we thought we 188 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, Obviously those were the low lighting highlight that 189 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: you had there, but we thought we added some good pieces. 190 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: You know, it really started before free agency with Roger Staffold. Um, 191 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: just a guy that we looked at three years ago 192 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: when he ended up signing with Tennessee and uh, I've 193 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: always admired him and heard great things about him when 194 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: he was released by the Titans. We've got Kromer here 195 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: now who has worked with him and spoke very highly 196 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: of just you know, it's amazing for a guy who's 197 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: in his early thirties. And we'll talk we'll talk about 198 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: vonn at some point, but uh, you know, he could 199 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: still do it and and and you saw him still 200 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: playing at a starters level. And again the intangibles the 201 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: things that we talk about, and you know, we just 202 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: we're excited about about adding him. And then um, you know, 203 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: we obviously attacked the other end of the line too 204 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: with with the defense with you know, Settle and day 205 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: Quan and then getting Jordan Phillips back um shack and 206 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, and obviously the big one was getting von 207 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: Miller in here. But uh, you guys know it, you 208 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: know from the draft last year, it every year been 209 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: here we've tried to attack the lines. That's that's one 210 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: That's what keeps me up at night is not being 211 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: strong in the trenches more than any other position. Yeah, 212 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: and I think we anticipated I mean, you almost had 213 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: to just be I remember we were talking you at 214 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: the combine. You had six defensive alignment on expiring contracts. 215 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Just from a sheer number standpoint, we anticipated you addressing that. 216 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I just think we were all wondering, how is that 217 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: gonna fit? Like, are we Is he gonna go all 218 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: in on free agency? Is it gonna be a mix 219 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: and match thing draft free agency? But I mean you 220 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: you swung a big bat early there on the D 221 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: line on the interior, and you look at the makeup 222 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: of these guys that you have now to rotate through 223 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: there with Ed obviously and others. You got some pile movers, man, 224 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, guys said are gonna push the pocket because 225 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean those guys, I mean they'd be on a 226 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: moving van if I mean those are guys you want 227 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: moving furniture in your house. I mean, those guys they're 228 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna give you some nice push up front. I mean, 229 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: I know your D line finished strong at the end 230 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: of the year, last year in terms of winning the 231 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage battles that we hear coach talk so 232 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: much about these three. These three, you guys are gonna 233 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: do some damage for you on a weekly basis, I 234 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: would think, yeah, they should. I mean, obviously Ed is 235 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: the is the total opposite of you know, he's he's 236 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: so quick off the ball, he's you know, two eighty five. 237 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna win that way. Um, what what are people 238 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: gonna try to do to slow down Ed? They're gonna 239 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: try and run at him like that's that's how you 240 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: try and beat those guys, because you're not gonna beat him. 241 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be quicker, faster, more explosive than most of 242 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: the guys he's going against. So uh, you know, to 243 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: offset that, we want to make sure we can be 244 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: stout up there next to him, whether it's Jordan, whether 245 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: it's da Quon, whether it's settled. And again, we overall 246 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: our d line played well last year. There were just 247 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: some moments um that maybe we weren't as stout as 248 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: we wanted to be against the run, and then there 249 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: were some moments where we got pressure but we weren't 250 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: able to finish and get him down and that was that, 251 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, the impetus to signing Vaughan, and again didn't 252 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: know truly wouldn't have put a lot of odds that 253 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: we would have landed a guy um at his caliber, 254 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: because there's so many things that go in its free agency. 255 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: They can choose. You kind of assume he's going to 256 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: go back and defend the title with the rams and um. 257 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: But ultimately, you know, we we convinced him to consider 258 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: us and and you know worked out. It wasn't alone either. 259 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: I guess you got some help recruiting him. Josh, tell 260 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: me about that story about some of the players that 261 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: you have here now reaching out to Vaughan saying it's 262 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: not bad up here. Yeah, I think, Uh, you know, 263 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: some of these guys keep up, they want to know 264 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: what's going on, and um, you know, Josh, you know 265 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: I talked a decent amount you know, through this process 266 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: of guys he hear and out there I hear, and 267 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: he heard. He said, Hey, I heard Vaughan's consider and 268 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, sure, go, you know, 269 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: we can't really talk to him, go recruit him. So 270 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: him and then uh digs happened to be I walked 271 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: into Ken Dorsey's office and they were facetiming, and so 272 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know, we may be working on 273 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: Vaughan and I knew they knew each other, and He's like, yeah, 274 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: he already hit me up once. I said, well hit 275 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: him back up and do that. And then, um, you know, 276 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, your ex teammate, got oh, I was on 277 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: that text look with Bruce and the guy yeah yeah, 278 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and and Bruce was was excited. You know. Bruce got 279 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: on a call with me and Sean and we just 280 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: talked about you know, our front and everything. And he's obviously, um, 281 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, as great of a pass rusher as he is. 282 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: He knows and what it takes. And he knew he 283 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: knew Vaughan from some of their past and so we 284 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: talked about what he knew about him. We had done 285 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: a lot of research on him, and and then I 286 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: know he reached out to Vaughan as well. One of 287 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: the things too, um, and I've heard this from a 288 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: couple of everything, Bruce being one of them that said 289 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: one of the things that maybe the Bills needed last 290 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: year was a guy who could in ship. And I've 291 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: heard this not just from Bruce but a guy who 292 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: like when when you need you know, they've got one 293 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: last chance to do something, you need a guy that 294 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: can finish the game and come in and have you know, 295 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: have Josh Neil down. Yeah, I've heard that from a 296 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: couple of different guys. How hard it's really for me? 297 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you pick a guy like I 298 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: guess Vaughn's a guy like that, but that has the 299 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: ability to make it at the right time. Forget about 300 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: getting twenty sacks, just get ten sacks and make him 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: timely kind of thing. Vaughn seems to have that or 302 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, I think you know, if you looked 303 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, closely at the end of the season and 304 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: then of course their playoff run and you know, watched 305 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: every one of those snaps, you know, plus I went 306 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: back and even watched some of his you know, Denver, 307 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: but ultimately spent a lot of time on what did 308 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: he look like second half the season as a RAM 309 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: and then how did he help them win that Super Bowl? 310 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: What was his role? And I would say it was 311 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: it was a large role, and it was even if 312 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't getting him down, he helps somebody else get 313 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: him down. And that's what I'm talking about a guy 314 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: that if he's either going to get him down or 315 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna chase that guy into into one of our 316 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: other you know, upfront guys. So it is, it's a closer, 317 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: it's a finisher, um, a guy that just knows how 318 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: to rush the passer. And yeah, he is he the 319 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: same athlete he was ten years ago. No, but as 320 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: that's gone down, his you know, awareness is smarts, his 321 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: feel all those things. You know, he just he's got it. 322 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's just he's a kg bets that way. 323 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: And it's clear that you know, this kind of shifted 324 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: perhaps your whole offense, your whole free agency plan, because 325 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: when this kind of a player becomes available, you know 326 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be a giant commitment. So now now 327 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: you got to go go talk to Jim and Kevin 328 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: and say, hey, how many fiscal hoops do we have 329 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: to jump through to make this work? And you know 330 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: you don't want I know, you're always big on being 331 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: cap strong year over year over year over year. In 332 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: a contract like this, you gotta be careful it doesn't 333 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: hamstring is. So how many fiscal hoops did you guys 334 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: jump through to kind of bring this to fruition. Yeah, 335 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean we we talked about if there was a 336 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: premium pass rusher, you know, you know Vaughan, there were 337 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: several others out there that if it came to that point, 338 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: how would we structure it, what would it look like? 339 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: And so as we were navigating this process, you know, 340 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: we were spending some money, and so we start going, 341 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, we got to be careful here if we're 342 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: gonna because you never know when it's going to heat up, right, 343 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: And that wasn't a first day out of the gate. 344 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: We didn't We didn't know that either. And so you know, 345 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: Joby Brand and his agent, you know, stayed in regular 346 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: contact with Kevin once the negotiating period started, and we 347 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: talked about it where they were, where we were, and 348 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: and just had some soft, you know, parameter conversations and 349 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: ultimately wanted to make sure that if we were holding 350 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: this money aside and that, you know, is Vaughan truly 351 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: in because you know, maybe it felt like early on 352 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: he's probably going back to the rams. It just seemed 353 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: to make sense some of the things you hear read. 354 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: But you know, trusted Joby and he was spot on that. 355 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: Vaughan was very serious about the Buffalo Bills and listen, 356 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: the Rams are very much in it. There were some 357 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: other teams too, but it was it was legit interest 358 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: that we We obviously saw that come to because it's 359 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: a I mean, that's a giant piece to kind of 360 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: leave resources on the side over here, almost like a 361 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: just in case. I mean, did you sleep the last 362 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: few days, because that's that's a big chunk to leave 363 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: over here, and you might be watching other pieces that 364 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: you might have had interest in, but you said, well, 365 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna wait on that, and if we can't get it, 366 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: we can't get it because we might get this big 367 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: fish instead, and it's worth holding out and waiting on. 368 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: How much do you move the money around? And like 369 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: I always think about you when you guys do the 370 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: draft and doing the mock drafts and contingency plans and 371 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: all of that stuff, so you're prepared for just about anything. 372 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: I gotta believe it. It can't be too much terribly 373 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: different with free agency, especially when you're dealing with a 374 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: big piece like that. You've got to move all the 375 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: puzzle pieces around. Yeah, I mean it pulled us out 376 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: of some conversations with other guys, and you know, ultimately, 377 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: if we didn't land them, we knew that, hey, there's 378 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: a scenario here, probably a you know, more than fifty 379 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: percent chance you know, that we're not going to land them, 380 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: and we'll you know, then we'll pivot to something else, 381 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's another pass rusher at a lower 382 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: level or a different position, you know, or we'll save 383 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: it and listen, who knows, maybe there would have been 384 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: a trade option down the line to save it for 385 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, we knew that there were conversations 386 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: that we had before this was done and since then 387 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: that you know, we can't go there at this position, 388 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: whatever position it is, because we've allocated here to find, 389 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, another pass rusher to go with our young guys. 390 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: Just really wanted a veteran guy with some legit experience, 391 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, didn't know if you'd get to Vaughan's level, 392 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: but something you know, with a J Boogie and Greg 393 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: still being three young players, all right. So yeah, this 394 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: this deal with Vaughan and some of the other conversations 395 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: pulls you out a conversation with other guys. So what 396 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: conversations are we still in? I mean, what's next for you? 397 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm certainly, Um, free agency is still going on. Um. 398 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter's still reporting, Yeah, we still got yeah this Adam. Yeah. 399 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: Mike Girardi's also reporting. Duke Johnson's on the thing. You 400 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: signed Matt Barkley this morning, Um, Case keenom he made 401 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: the trade four. Now you've got eight picks in the 402 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: draft right and stood at nine. Um, I give us 403 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: a you know, like, what's on the front what's on 404 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: the front burner this morning? Yeah, I mean we're obviously. 405 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: The big thing that I said at my press conference 406 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: of the day is I had it in the works 407 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: with Case and Barkley. That was all. Nothing was finalized. 408 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: We were still um, they were gonna have to restructure 409 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: cases deal um, and we ultimately had to wait on 410 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: them to do that to be able to assume you know, 411 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: his cap. And so they part of it was they 412 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: ate some money his roster bonus and then it was 413 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: also with the agent after he got that bonus that 414 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: they would redo his deal. And so we got that 415 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: down to you know, more manage number for us. So 416 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: that was worth that that our last pick of the 417 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: draft to do that case is a guy that we 418 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: u when it was going to be Josh's rookie year. 419 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: We really recruited him hard, but the money got very high. 420 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: You went to Denver, I think it was around eighteen 421 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: plus or something and so, but always thought a lot 422 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: of him, and really, you know, as a gutsy player, 423 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: you know that has come in started some games this 424 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: year as starting the past, and you know, just like 425 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: with Mitch last year, we wanted to be able to 426 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: pivot to a guy if if something happ said Josh. 427 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: And then obviously we've had a great history with Barkley. 428 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: He's coming and played games for us as well. So 429 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: this was a chance to add two veterans at a 430 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: similar time that one has played for us and had success, 431 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: the other one's had success around the league. Just in case. 432 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: We know the way Josh plays, you know, I have 433 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: to fuss that him sometimes to get down. But bro, 434 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: we you know, we want to feel free to tell 435 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: him anytime you see him. But yeah, you know you're 436 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: always that scenario if you lose your starter for three 437 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: or four games, can you go at least two and two, 438 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: three and one? Can you win games? Just some games? Yeah, 439 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: And we feel like adding these two guys we can 440 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: do that. Oj Howard to me, was kind of an 441 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: interesting addition for you guys. And it was funny because 442 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: Steve and I were having this discussion on the air. 443 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: In free agency, more often than not, when you're at 444 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: the top of the market, you're going to be paying 445 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: top market value or sometimes you even overpay. You guys 446 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: have the advantage of being this really contending team that 447 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: people want to come to, so maybe it's not as 448 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: much of a burden for you guys. But we were thinking, Okay, 449 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: you look at receiver and the cost to sign a 450 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: top flight receivers like eighteen nineteen twenty million dollars. Now 451 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: tight end is a much lower priced position. But if 452 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you get a guy that you feel fits you well, 453 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to pay as much of a premium 454 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: just because the position premium isn't as high. And we 455 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: were curious as to what direction you guys were going 456 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: to go in free agency. And I'm not saying you're 457 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: not going to go after you know, receiver at some point, 458 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: but tight ends seemed to make a lot of sense 459 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: to us. And then you know, you get oj on 460 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: a one year kind of prove a deal for him 461 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: coming off injury history. I mean that that could be 462 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 1: a real boom signing for you, if you know, if 463 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: Ken can find a good role for him in the offense. Yeah, 464 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that was highly tied coming 465 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: out of Alabama, had a really strong senior year and 466 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: goes to Tampa first round. I think he was like 467 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: the nineteenth twentieth pick somewhere around there. And you know, 468 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: ultimately a couple of things. One tears Achill, he's a 469 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Brady's first year, and and Cameron 470 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: Brake kind of rose up, and then obviously they brought 471 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: Gronk down there, so it limited his opportunities. But we 472 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: feel he's a big, straight line, fast target, good hands 473 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: and will you know, help keep some of the pressure 474 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: off in Dawson, you know, and also, you know, if 475 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: something happens to Dawson, you feel like you got a 476 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: guy you can turn to. So you know, we're gonna 477 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: build this. We're gonna try to find various weapons, whether 478 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: it's a running back, whether it's receiver, tight ends, whatever 479 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: it is, and just give it to Ken and let 480 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: him use it. That's kind was the philosophy that we 481 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: had with Dabs when he was here. Of let's let's 482 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: get as many good pieces, a variety of pieces, and 483 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: so that we can mix up the personnel packages and 484 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: how we do it. So you know, there's I'm sure 485 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some you know, playing of options of 486 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: two tight ends. Yeah, OJ's one of those guys came out. 487 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: He's got a ton of traits. He's big, strong, fast, 488 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: looks the part. I mean, he's you know, he's just 489 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: got all that. When you talk about this draft coming up, 490 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: what traits are you looking for in this all? Right? 491 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, position wise, you don't really seem to have 492 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you can say, maybe just get deeper wide out 493 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: or get a corner or something, but you know you 494 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: don't really have that emergence positional emergency. Um, what do 495 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: you think about this draft coming up? You get you 496 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: pick at twenty five, there's it's a crapshoot as to 497 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the board. But you know, what 498 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: are you thinking? I mean, what positions are you looking at? 499 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: What guys are you hope faulty? I know you don't 500 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: want to like let the cut out of the bag. Yeah, 501 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: just tell me what who you're gonna draft. Yeah, give 502 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: me a little more time and around, I was like, no, 503 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, ultimately, what we're trying to 504 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: do now is fill these holes so that we don't 505 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: have to say, oh my gosh, if I get out 506 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: of the second round and I don't have this player 507 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: where we're in, we're in deep trouble. And um, you know, 508 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: we lost some some players as Chris mentioned earlier in 509 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: free agency, and again appreciate all those guys, but I 510 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: think there's you know, I think there's depth that various 511 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: positions in the draft, and I think there's players that 512 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: I've seen through whether it was the Senior Bowls, the 513 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: Combine and and you know, through the process where I 514 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: saw him in the fall that I do think will 515 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: come in here and help us. Um. Maybe not an 516 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: immediate starter, maybe maybe so. I think it'll depend on 517 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: what position we go with, but we're gonna try and 518 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: find the best players. We love it that we got 519 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: picks in every round. And I don't think this draft 520 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: the way I would summarize it as I sit here 521 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: today is I don't think there's going to be a 522 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: push for these guy. I gotta get in the top five, 523 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: top seven. Um, you know, depend on how this quarterback 524 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: thing shakes out. But I do think there's going to 525 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: be a lot of depth and I think we'll find, 526 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, really good players at twenty five and then 527 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: down in the second third. Yeah, I think you're already 528 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: talking about Joe trying to get out at five or 529 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: get out at seven, and I think it's gonna be hard. 530 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't think as many people are looking at least 531 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: that's the sense we get, like people aren't trying to 532 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: jump up too high because the true elites seem to 533 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: be fewer and further between this year is compared to 534 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: previous years. I don't know if you it's I guess 535 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: it's everybody's preference, like what do you like, what's your 536 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: flavor kind of thing. But it's just, well, it just 537 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: seems like the talk is well, Aiden Hutchinson wouldn't even 538 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: be the fourth defensive end year it will go or 539 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: whatever because this, that and the other but productions production. 540 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, and this is a little 541 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: bit off the beaten path here about the practice squad rules. 542 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: Because each of the last two years, you guys have 543 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: had the luxury of having an expanded squad. You can 544 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: even have veterans on there. You can protect four every week, 545 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: and you guys kept it at sixteen for a second 546 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: year of the pandemic. I believe, if I remember right, 547 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: the CBA says the practice squad goes up to twelve 548 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: automatically anyway from the original ten. Yeah this year. Um, 549 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: but I'm wondering if you had any thought or if 550 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: there's been any murmurs at all about those practice squad 551 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: rules coming back for a third year. I gotta believe 552 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: people like you like that a lot. Yeah, it's enormous flexibility. Yeah, 553 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: it's been talked about. I think I think it's trending, um, 554 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: you know to potentially you know, being whether it's sixteen 555 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: or if it's it's definitely gonna be twelve. Yeah, but uh, 556 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'm hopeful for sixteen. I think a lot 557 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: of people are. We don't have a farm system. There 558 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: are some more leagues coming, but you know, we'll have 559 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: to see how that goes. Who can who can sustain themselves? 560 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: But um, it's been great. You know last year we didn't, Um, 561 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: I don't believe we had to go outside of our 562 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: roster of practice squad to promote when we had injuries 563 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: or COVID or anything like that. And that's ideal, and 564 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: that's why we want to get guys. We don't just 565 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: want to get guys that are card readers that can 566 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: go up there and just read the card for the 567 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: offense or for the defense. We want guys that we 568 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that we can develop and 569 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: it's a fine, well, there's there's some that aren't as good, 570 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: but uh, you know some guys that we can develop 571 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: that the coaches and that's kind of been Sean and 572 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: Mais Mantra is develop every player that we have in 573 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: this building. Because if it's better on Tuesday when we 574 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: got to when we've had a couple of injuries at 575 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: a position to go to a guy who's been in 576 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: the building for a month or six weeks, then plucking 577 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: guy off the street and teaching him and getting him 578 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: up to speed. Even if he's a slightly better player, 579 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: his knowledge of what you're trying to do is going 580 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: to slow down. Elianku was a good example of that. 581 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: Last yeah, last one for me, same along the same lines. 582 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: This last year you said, you know, getting guys healthy 583 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: and keeping him You stepped into the playoffs and right 584 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: out of the regular season really healthier than anybody in 585 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: the league. I mean, what is the science or to 586 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: knock on right now? Right, it's been it's been that 587 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: way for a large portion of you and Shawn's ten. 588 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: You're here in Buffalo. What I don't know, what do 589 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: you do differently or what is it that has allowed 590 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: you guys to remain so I know, there's no it's 591 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: not all that training facility. There's some luck. Just a 592 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: brief statement about what it is you guys do that 593 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: has allowed you to do that and why, Well it's 594 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: it's it's not luck. You can say it's dumb like 595 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's not once one thing simple. It 596 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: starts with what Chris just mentioned. Good facilities. Um, you know, 597 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: all the various things, the modalities and there we emphasize 598 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: a lot of prehab like stuff to prevent yourself from 599 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: having to do rehab. And you know, it's also finding 600 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: professional players who will do the right things. You know, 601 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: whether it's their diet, their nutrition, Um, you know, what 602 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: is your body fat percentage? We look at a lot 603 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: of that and putting them in the right weight so 604 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: that you know, being in the wrong weight can get 605 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: you hurt. Polls and things like that, and then just 606 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: open dialogue with them. How where do they feel they're 607 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: at their best way? And I think there's just a 608 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: give and take between our sports science. I mean we 609 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: literally we have a file for every single player. So 610 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: you and Chris may play the same position, but when 611 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: you come in here, you may be doing something totally 612 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: different than him, based on age, based on your injuries, 613 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: based on whatever. And it's it's a lot of things, 614 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: a lot of conversations, and then of course we have 615 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: more data. We use a lot of the data, you know, GPS, 616 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: game reps, high speed running there, you know, without getting 617 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: any d It's also I'll say this too for nothing, 618 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: you've been done this road too with it's having a 619 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff and a general manager and guys who will 620 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: listen to the people in the medical side of it 621 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: and give them a voice and some authority to say, 622 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, yes, this is what we should 623 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: be doing, and then to listen to them. Well yeah, 624 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: and that's gotten traction now. I mean O. J. Howard 625 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: even said it in his press conference. I mean, here's 626 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: a guy with an injury history really hasn't been able 627 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: to get his career off the ground because of it. 628 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: And even though he claims that, you know, he learned 629 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: and some good stuff off the field from Gronk in 630 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: terms of how to take care of yourself. While he 631 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: was down to Tampa, one of the biggest attractive qualities 632 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: of Buffalo was that building right over there and everybody 633 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: that's in it doing the work they do. Yeah, I 634 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: mean that that's got to feel good when you know 635 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: it's got traction around the league and it's attracting players 636 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: for you now, it's it's funny. His agent, Todd France, 637 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: mentioned that to me and Kevin Meagank that is there 638 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: any questions he has about us or you know, he's 639 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: from the south, you know, coming up north, And he goes, no, 640 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: he's Todd goes, he actually found on some YouTube thing, 641 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: the video your facility, and he was very intrigued by 642 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: it and some of the stuff you guys do. And 643 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, if there's any questions we 644 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: can answer, and he goes, I'll call him back and 645 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: let him know. And we sent another video that was 646 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: a little more thorough than what he had seen to Todd, 647 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: and I think he sent it to him as well. 648 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: So we knew it was very important for him, and 649 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: again that may not be important to you, but right are, 650 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: what we share with every player is we're trying to 651 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: not only keep you healthy while you're Buffalo Bill, but 652 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: we're trying to extend your career. And every year you play, 653 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: think of the revenue, you know, if you if you 654 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: add one to two years, think of what that still 655 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: alone your Peniaugh's career. Would you listen, It's gonna be 656 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: a lot of eyes and hands on both those. Thanks 657 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: for coming in many, appreciate you giving us some time today. Well, 658 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: we'll let you get back to it because according to 659 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: all the the national reporters, you've got some stuff going on, 660 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: so we'll let you finish that up. Good luck with it, 661 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: all right, all right, thanks guys, All right, appreciate Bill 662 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Jim Brandon being joining us here. We'll be back in 663 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: a moment with more on One Bill's Live, presented by 664 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Thanks again to you, Bill, 665 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: GM Brandon Bean who is busy and uh maybe busier 666 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: than we even know because ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting 667 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: that veteran running back Duke Johnson. It's gonna be signing 668 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Bills, that per his agent, 669 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: Drew Rosenhaus. So we'll wait and see if that becomes official. Obviously, 670 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: you know, players got to pass physicals and all that 671 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: stuff for those kinds of things to go through. But 672 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: I think we knew Steve that once the JD. McKissick 673 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: thing fell by the wayside, that there was a chance 674 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: they might be looking elsewhere at the running back position. 675 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: And it looks like, at least according to reports, they've 676 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: zeroed in on running back Duke Johnson. So a guy 677 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: with some proven production both on the ground and receiving 678 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: the football. So yeah, Finn played last year with Miami, 679 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: only appeared in five games down there, But I think 680 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people remember him when he was playing 681 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: with Cleveland. Pretty productive player. Yeah, he's a power back. 682 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: He's got some speed and as you can see here, 683 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: we're watching highlights of him in a game for the 684 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins against the Patriots, and you know, he's a 685 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: physical runner. He's been a successful back in the league, 686 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: and he's one of those guys dependable. He's probably strikes 687 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: me as a little bit of a runner like Frank Gore, 688 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, well, right, And I think 689 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: the other thing that might attract them too is he's 690 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: been part of a committee for almost his entire career, Like, 691 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: he knows what those roles are, like, what they entail. 692 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: He has experience getting you know, seven or eight touches 693 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: a game, not twenty five. He knows what it's like 694 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: to come into a game and do that. Not to 695 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: mention the fact that he's a pretty accomplished receiver. He's 696 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: got three hundred and eleven receptions in his you know, 697 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: seven year career, including a season high seventy four. He's 698 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 1: got he's got three NFL seasons with fifty receptions or more. 699 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty good. A guy that knows how 700 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: to do it, knows what he's doing. So yeah, we'll 701 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: see if it in fact comes to pass and becomes officials, 702 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: not today tomorrow. At least they know that's in his toolbox, 703 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, So I'm I'm excited to see it. I'm 704 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna be, you know, an 705 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: absolute starter all you know, every every game, every day, 706 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: twenty five carries. He's not going to be that, although 707 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: it's probably in there that he could for a stretch. 708 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: He's still twenty eight. It's a little long in the 709 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: tooth for a running back. But by like you said, 710 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: his carries aren't massive. Over the course of his career, 711 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: he'll have something in the tank. He's got a veteran guy. 712 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: He's a veteran He's been around the block once too. 713 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: I like a guy who's been on a bunch of 714 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: different teams. Now there may be a reason he's been 715 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: on another bunch of different teams that have to do 716 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: with him, but also the experience he gains from that, 717 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: I think is invaluable when you get in the locker 718 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: room and start talking to guys about how they do 719 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: things during the season. His first four seasons with Cleveland 720 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: is next too with Houston before he went to Miami 721 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: just this past year. And you reference his build, you know, 722 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: he's got a square, stocky build. I kind of with 723 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: his receiving background, I kind of envisioned him as, you know, 724 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: a guy that could fill the third down back roll. 725 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's experienced enough in this league to know 726 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: what protections are and how to handle him with assignments 727 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: in terms of picking up blitz and things like that. 728 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: And then his receiving history as well documented. So this 729 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: is kind of an interesting pickup quite frankly, and as 730 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: you said, just twenty eight years old. So we'll see 731 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: if it in fact comes to pass. Anything else grab 732 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: you in terms of what Brandon shared with us today, 733 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: I was just fascinated, and you know, he got into 734 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: it a little bit. We didn't have enough time to 735 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: get into it with him more. I was fascinated by 736 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: we may get him. But he labeled it a fifty 737 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: fifty shot. There was a great degree of uncertainty that 738 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: it might not come to pass, and to you knew 739 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: what it was going to take upwards of seventeen million 740 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: dollars a year, So take those dollars. To take those 741 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: dollars and send him over here while he's mulling over 742 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: his decision, while you were still conducting business on the 743 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: open market, which has opened already. Right. Well, I think 744 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: what happened was I don't think, I don't know that 745 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: they had this money set aside for von Miller, but 746 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: they were going to set aside money because they were 747 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: making a play for him, and if they didn't get 748 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: it von Miller, they were gonna have him the money 749 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: left over or to have it used. So they were 750 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: setting that money aside for everybody, and Von got the 751 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: chunk because after they signed Von, he's heard him say, hey, 752 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: Bed pulled us out of a couple of conversations. So 753 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: I think what happened was and I think kudos to 754 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: him for getting out ahead of it. Say like, if 755 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: we do hit a home run for a Chandler Jones, 756 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: von Miller, one of those guys, how are we going 757 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: to finance it? And they started having those meetings before 758 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: this thing even started, And so they got on the 759 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: horn and of course they were talking. We heard about him, 760 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: Mitch Morris, you know, redid his deal and bonus money 761 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: paid Milano or whatever who whoever it was. They started 762 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: getting these guys lined up. Kudos to those guys for 763 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: for for being there and ready to do that. Although 764 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's good for them that they did. Obviously, 765 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a gift by the club to be 766 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: willing to do that. So it wasn't that they just 767 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: had it sitting there because they were gonna give it. 768 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: Probably give that money to somebody, but it was gonna 769 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: be couple of somebody's right, It's gonna be a handful 770 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: of somebody's yeah to me, though, that's got to be 771 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: nerve wracking, Like you're keeping the lines of communication open 772 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: with his agent. Yes he is interested, but he's got 773 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: to make a decision here, and you're trying to be 774 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: patient because you don't want to push him into a decision. 775 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to give him any ultimatums. You want 776 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: him to weigh it out because if you can get him, 777 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: you're old boy, I mean, like that's a get you 778 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: over the hump kind of player. So it behooves you 779 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: to sit and hold your water. But knowing how competitive 780 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: Brandon is, that's got to be really, really hard to do. 781 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: One of our listeners chimed in and gave me a 782 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: thought too. You know you get von Miller, you got 783 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen m Steph Diggs. You know you have the 784 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: number one defense. And by all and right, I mean 785 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: people are talking about it now. You may as well 786 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: get used to it. The Bills are a favorite for 787 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year. There is a report out 788 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: that we have another quarterback trade. At another quarter back trade, 789 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: the Falcons are reportedly trading Matt Ryan to the Colts 790 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: for a third round draft choice. This is a according 791 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: to the Pad McAfee show, and Tom Pellisero's got chiming 792 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: in on that as well. He says it's a dumb deal. 793 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: Trade alert, I beat the Sounder, Steve, how about that. 794 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: There you go, and I'm doing a show at the 795 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: same time. Twitter is magic. Yeah, it's Tom Pellisero. Done deal, 796 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: Falcons trading former NFL MVP Matt Ryan to the Colts 797 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: for a twenty twenty two third round pick. I like 798 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: that for the Colts a lot. He's a good quarter. 799 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: I like him better than Baker Mayfield. I like this, Yeah, 800 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: I think, Yes, I do. I imagine this puts the 801 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: Colts where they were two years ago. I think it 802 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: puts them in the in the playoffs like it did 803 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers in that division for three with Tennessee, Jacksonville, 804 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Houston, all of a sudden, indis the favorite 805 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: for me, They're the favorite ahead of Tennessee. Man. Ryan's 806 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: better than Ryann. Yeah, and I think Jonathan Taylor's pretty close. 807 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: To be different, but as effective as Derrick Henry More 808 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: Versatiles certainly. Yeah. I'm telling you right now, if you 809 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: give me a choice, I'm taking Taylor right because I'm 810 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: gonna have him for longer, and I don't know the 811 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: Henry's approaching derrekny. I know we've been calling it for 812 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: a couple of years now. It hasn't happened. Okay, fine, 813 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: I'm still calling for it. Yeah, I think Indianapolis goes 814 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: from to Sweet Mother of Pearl, Steve. We got another 815 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: quarterback in the AFC. The hell's going on around here? 816 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: This has been out there as well. A couple of 817 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: these guys have said this too, And I think it 818 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: was one of the good friends of the show, not 819 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: even Rappaport, but another one former guests of the show 820 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: that you know, you look at that game between Buffalo 821 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: and Kansas City, and you throw Joe Burrow into that mix. 822 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: You know, as the guy that you got it, got 823 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: it done and went to the super Bowl. You're thinking there, 824 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: as an owner in the GM, You're looking at that 825 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: quarterback play in the last two games of the AFC 826 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: conference going to the Super Bowl, and you're thinking, Mike, 827 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: is Mike gonna capable of competing with those guys? Is 828 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: Mike guy really in the game with Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, 829 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, And if he's not what are we gonna do. 830 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: Denver goes out and trades for Russ Wilson. Indianapolis trades 831 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 1: for Matt Ryan, The Browns trade for Deshaun Watson. I mean, 832 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: you got to get a guy and the you know, 833 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson's got to be in that conversation. I mean, 834 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: you've got to think, like, man, well you've got to 835 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: have us. You gotta have a superhero in this conference. 836 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: Look at the other conference. You got Aaron Rodgers, Matt 837 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: Stafford and Kyler Murray really and Tom Brady. That guy, Yeah, 838 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: he's worth mentioning. That's four yep, that's it. That's that's 839 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: basically it, right, I mean, think of a look around, 840 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: you know what, who justin Fields, Jalen Hurts, No, Daniel Jones, No, 841 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Who's in Washington, Dak Prescott maybe, Okay, okay, 842 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: Vi Prescott. That's about it. That's about it. My friend Carolina, nobody, 843 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: na a, not just nobody. They're gonna end up with Mayfield, 844 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: which and uh, we gotta take a break here, but 845 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: when we come back, goods. Adam Schefter had some startling 846 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: revelations in terms of what Baker Mayfield could command on 847 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: the trade market. Let's just say this, it ain't good 848 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: for the Browns. We'll let you know what it is 849 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bill's Live presented by 850 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: Klatta Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. So, as I mentioned 851 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: Steve with Matt Ryan going to the Colts, now people 852 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 1: are waiting for Baker Mayfield to be the next shoe 853 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: to drop. And Adam Schefter, appearing on one of the 854 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: ESPN shows a short time ago, said the Browns had 855 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: conversations with a team about Baker terms of a trade, 856 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: and the team asked for a pick from the Browns 857 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: to take Mayfield's contract. They asked for a pick from 858 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: the Browns to take his contract. Well, if we're gonna 859 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: take him, you need to send us a pick too 860 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: to take the contract. So he said, if anyone thinks 861 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna get a high premium pick for Baker Mayfield, 862 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: they're mistaken. Yeah, we got another alert. What's going on 863 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: over there? I hit the button? Um, yeah, that's what 864 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: happens to Baker's really weird because, let's face it, it's 865 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: hard to separate Baker from from his personality and the 866 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: way he plays. For a lot of people, he's he's 867 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: a bigger personality than he is a player, right well, 868 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: probably at this point he is. And the trouble is 869 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: and he got injured last year and he had That's 870 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: what he's gonna say and all that. The trouble is 871 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 1: the roster last year. They thought they had a super 872 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: Bowl roster last year. They really did. They thought they 873 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: were third year, fourth year of Baker's rookie contract. They 874 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: got these guys up front on defense, they got him 875 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: up o b J. Jarvis Landry, They got some guys. 876 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: No Falcons are gonna be crappy next year. No Matt Ryan, 877 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: no Calvin ridd Losing offensive lineman left right and center 878 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: and free agency. Julio Jones left last year. They and 879 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: they're taking a forty point five million dollars hit on 880 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: the trade with Watson. This is I mean, this is 881 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: a mail at in year Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan's causing 882 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: them forty million dollars in dead cap money. They just 883 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: restructured his contract last week to take twenty million in 884 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: base salary and move it into a bonus so they 885 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: could spread it out. And they structured it in such 886 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: a way where if they moved on from him next 887 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: year they would have no dead cap. Instead, they decide 888 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: to move him and take an enormous cap hit this year. 889 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: This is similar to what the Bills kind of did 890 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. They bit the bullet on the cap 891 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: hits and did the best they could with the allocated 892 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: with the resources that they had to allocate to acquiring players. 893 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: This is a bite the bullet here for the Falcons. 894 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: They are not going to be Matt Ryan did not 895 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: have a no trade clause, but the Falcons always, you know, 896 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: they worked with him and he did the They did 897 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: the bonus thing about a week ago that they ate 898 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: and now he's going to Indianapolis. Now Baker may but 899 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: where let's just where are the destinations for Baker? Is 900 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: it Carolina? Is it Seattle? Settle could be Atlanta? Now 901 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: who knows? Be Atlanta? Now there's three spots. Um, one 902 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: of those teams could get left out. New Orleans still 903 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: hasn't done anything. Yeah, and the quarterback, I mean, Jamis 904 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: Willson Winston's still out there right, Um he's And the 905 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: reason I bring him up isn't because he maybe he's 906 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: the guy that for me, Brownie, he's got the he's 907 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: the toolsiest guy out there, you know what I mean, 908 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: he's got a live arm. He's an athlete. He can 909 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: he can sling it. And that's what jamis. He can't 910 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: run though he doesn't he doesn't run, but that you know, 911 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: for a team like Seattle, okay, or a team like Carolina, okay, 912 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: New Orleans, he knows, you know, but New Orleans is 913 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, they're still trying to well, all 914 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: lou they did. They climbed out of the out of 915 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: the base, out of the seventy five. They were at 916 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: one point seventy five million over the cap. They've got 917 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: they've got voodoo specialists getting them out from under the 918 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: cap down there. I don't know. Let somebody's working some 919 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: chicken bones down and if Film Networks Mike Garafolo is 920 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: telling everybody to now watch for Marcus Mariota to go 921 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: to the Falcons. Sources say Atlanta is expected to pursue 922 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: a reunion with Mariota and Arthur Smith, who he was 923 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: with during their time together in Tennessee with the Titans. 924 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: So trying to connect the dots there, and I could 925 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: see that that makes some sense. Arthur smiths make him 926 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback to every guy knows what he's getting 927 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: and that we've said it time and time again. Coaches, 928 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 1: no love guys, they know what they're getting from. Yeah, 929 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, they don't like the unknown. They know they've 930 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: got a solid guy here. They can do certain things 931 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: and they'll work with what they got arts. Arthur Smith 932 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: seems to be in that spot with Marcus Mariota. Come 933 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: at least a level of comfort. Right. Let's go to 934 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: the phones, though, and leading us off today is Justin 935 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: and Elmira. What do you have for us? Justin? Hey, guys, 936 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: you hear me? Okay? Yeah, I got you? Okay, good deal, 937 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: great interview with random bean. Um, good good conversation here. Um. 938 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: I guess kind of to two things I'd like to address, 939 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: first being, you know, this free agency period, the moves 940 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: that we've made. I know that a lot of Bill's mafia, 941 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: and I trust that there's a lot of listeners who 942 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: I would think there's a lot of listeners listening to 943 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: you guys, because you guys are are awesome. Um, can 944 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: you hear me? Still? Yeah, we got you. We're listening. 945 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: Keep yeah, you're yeah, you're talking my language, man, you're 946 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: stroking us. Go ahead, take all the time, I wasn't 947 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: sure what happened, but um, anyway, Um for Bill's mafia 948 00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: who finds it hard to I think some watched in 949 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: the end of that Buffalo Kansas City game. I kind 950 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: of had an epiphany after, especially after Bond signing that 951 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: I think the way that you know, the Bills played, 952 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: the toughness and tenacity, the grit determination that Josh Allen 953 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: showed in those final minutes of the fourth quarter is 954 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: a big, big reason that you're seeing guys want to 955 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: come and play here. So for everybody who can't seem 956 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: to stomach watching that, and I understand it because it 957 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: took me a while to take pride in that. Um. 958 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: You know, if there's a silver lining, that's what it is. 959 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: It is people want to be a part of that. 960 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: There are players who want to be a part of 961 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: what's going on here. And I think that that you know, 962 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: those closing minutes, the sands, the sands, the touchdown for 963 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City and the kickoff and whatnot you're saying it 964 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: brings I think it's bringing people around the league, players 965 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 1: around the league to a realization that hey, this this 966 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: is the spot here. So no question justin. Secondly, go ahead, 967 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm sorry, no, go ahead, finish up your point. Secondly, yeah, secondly, Um, 968 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: and this is kind of it's definitely not bills related. 969 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know. Did you guys see a clip 970 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: from the Saint Bonaventure on a Saint Louis game. I 971 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: think it was in the A ten tournament. Um, a 972 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: cheerleading coach had come out and stormed the court because 973 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: one of the Saint Louis players had said something to 974 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: one of the Bonaventure cheerleaders. Oh, I not didn't hear 975 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 1: anything about not see it if if you do see it, um, 976 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: that cheerleading coaches from my high school. So I just 977 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: wanted to say I was proud of her, not necessarily 978 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: for going viral, but for sticking up, for sticking up 979 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: for her girl who was taking a lot of a 980 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: lot of abuse from one of the Saint Louis players. 981 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: All right, dark guys, but I was just super proud 982 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: of her. So I'll hang up and listen. Yeah, yeah, 983 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: there is there's no question the way that game ended. 984 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: And we meant I think it was field Yates who 985 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 1: said that. What I had mentioned a minute ago about 986 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: how quarter of gems and owners are looking at their 987 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: team and saying, listen with Mahomes, Burrow and Alan and 988 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: Herbert and Lamar Jackson. If we don't have a guy 989 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: like that, what are we doing? And all these teams, 990 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you go out, do you look at the 991 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: list of AFC quarterbacks. Teams are trying to catch up 992 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: big time and it's a It is a thing, and 993 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: literally in arms race. The feeling and the perception that 994 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: the Bills are favorites to contend again this year is 995 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: an enormous enticement for free agents who are looking for 996 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: a place that they want to go to contend, like 997 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 1: von Miller there, but the Bills aren't the only spot. 998 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: You know, Kansas City still got to be considered a contender. Now. 999 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 1: Any team in the AFC West has got to think, Okay, 1000 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: we might have a shot at this right sure, so 1001 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: it is a good place to be. And I was 1002 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 1: thinking too, and I mentioned this before we had the 1003 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan thing. The one of our listeners chimed in, 1004 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: he goes, you know, you think about it, the max 1005 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: for teams being able to be on primetime TV and 1006 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: the schedules like seven, the Bills might max that out 1007 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: you signed von Miller, Yeah, I think and he got 1008 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: Josh right, he might be six. It's the Bills may 1009 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: get a ton of primetime games this year because right 1010 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you right now, and I tweeted this 1011 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,919 Speaker 1: last week after the Von Miller thing happened, I said, 1012 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: with von Miller now coming to the Bills, I'm going 1013 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 1: to be stunned if the kickoff game is not Bills 1014 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: at Rams. How do you not have oh Man, Josh 1015 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: Allen and Von Miller, who just won a Super Bowl 1016 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: with the Rams going to play the defending champions Week 1017 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 1: one kickoff game Thursday night. There's no way that's not happening. 1018 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: There's no way. Right now, You're right, And I'll say 1019 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: this too, you get that as an opening game, and 1020 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 1: then I'll tell you what too. There will be some 1021 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: push to get some home games in Buffalo because of 1022 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: the atmosphere, yeah, and because of the way the way 1023 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: it looks on TV and the way the game presents 1024 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: and just the zaneinus of it. So there'll be some matchups. 1025 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: They'll look down the schedule and probably bring, um, you know, 1026 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: the await the home games. You know, Green Bay. Aaron 1027 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: Rodgers is coming into town. Pittsburgh's coming into town. You 1028 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: know it's it's and then all three, you know, all 1029 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 1: three of the AFC East teams, we're coming to town. 1030 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: So you know it's not for nothing. But yeah, von 1031 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: Miller does up the Andy. With the star power that 1032 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: the Bills bring to the table for primetime games, plus 1033 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: the tie to the Rams, I mean and the Rams, 1034 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: it's all it's all tied together. It's it's a week 1035 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: one lock. Put it on the white board. It's a 1036 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: week one lock that kickoff game. I'm telling you, Bills 1037 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: it Rams, It's got a half Rams. It's gonna be 1038 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 1: on the white We're putting it on the white best 1039 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: tweet of the last hour That the best tweet of 1040 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: the last hour card Darrel Patterson tweets, I guess I 1041 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: better start warming up, and he's using the gift of 1042 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: the kid from the Cam Newton commercial warming his arm up, 1043 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: getting ready to take his spot. I guess Cordorel's ready 1044 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: to play quarterback for the Falcons next year. All right, 1045 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 1: we'll be back in a second. We got Tyler pull 1046 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: Us from Denver Broncos Radio, also a former offensive lineman 1047 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: for the Bronx. He's a former teammate of von Miller. 1048 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 1: We'll talk to him next here on One Bill's Live, 1049 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio at 1050 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field. 1051 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 1052 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: players for Stave, Steve a blimp. We're not even in 1053 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: the stratgere of normalcy. All right, welcome to our number 1054 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: two here on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with 1055 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: you in time for us to turn our attention to 1056 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: Bronco's radio color analyst, Denver sports radio host and former 1057 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: NFL offensive lineman who's also a former teammate of one 1058 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: von Miller. Both of them were Super Bowl fifty campions. 1059 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: It's Tyler Palumbus, Okay, Tyler. So we're going to start 1060 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: in the obvious place for Buffalo fans, and that's with 1061 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: von Miller, who is you know, a Buffalo Bill now, 1062 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: but he spent an awful lot of time as we 1063 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: know in Denver, former first round draft pick of them 1064 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: back in twenty eleven, a former teammate of yours as well. 1065 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: And I guess where I want to start is Brandon 1066 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: Bean in the press conference to you know, talk about 1067 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: the Von Miller signing. Basically was talking about how he's 1068 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: also besides hoping to get a bunch of production from 1069 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: him on the field, is hoping that he kind of 1070 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 1: pours into the young guys we've got here as well 1071 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: on the edge, namely the two draft picks from last year, 1072 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: Greg Russo, Boogie Basham and even the second round pick 1073 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: from the year prior aj Epenessa. What is your opinion 1074 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: of him being willing to pass knowledge on so to 1075 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: speak to younger guys, pour into them if you will. Yeah, 1076 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've known Bond for a very very long time. 1077 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: I've been around him for years, and you know, leadership 1078 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily his strong suit as a younger player, but 1079 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: getting to play with him with DeMarcus Ware in the 1080 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl year, I think it changed Von for the 1081 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 1: better and he really learned to evolve as a leader. 1082 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: DeMarcus really was pouring into Von, and then when DeMarcus 1083 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: Ware left, Von had to kind of take over as 1084 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: the leader, not necessarily something that he was always entirely 1085 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: comfortable with. To be totally honest with you, the talent 1086 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: has always been there with Von Miller, but he's just 1087 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: such a fun, happy guy. He's so jovial. You know, 1088 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily been that he's been this demanding leader 1089 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: that like Peyton Manning was, but over the years that's 1090 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: changed and he's certainly learned to grow into that role. 1091 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: You know, the best thing I can say about Von Millers, 1092 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: You're getting one hell of a football player. He's a 1093 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: lot of fun to be around. They'll never be a 1094 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: dry moment, I'll never be a drive presser. Guys will 1095 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: gravitate to him simply because of his performance on the field, 1096 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: and he's got the type of play that is so 1097 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: good that no matter what they do, guys will follow them. 1098 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: Vond's at a point in life where he has learned 1099 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: how to be a leader, and so you're getting a 1100 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: good leader. You're getting a great football player. Yeah, and 1101 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: we get him really at the end of his career. 1102 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna be thirty three in a couple of weeks. 1103 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: But in today's NFL, I mean, we've seen, of course 1104 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks play later and later and later into their years, 1105 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: and there Tom Brady being the most obvious example, but 1106 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: also Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, you can go 1107 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: down the list of guys and other players are starting 1108 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: to play a little a little bit longer as well, Like, uh, 1109 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: you know the offensive tackle for the Rams who started 1110 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: at forty years old in the Super Bowl. So yeah, 1111 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth. So yeah. So we get Vaughan He's thirty three, 1112 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: what do you think and he just won a Super 1113 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: Bowl and he's just left Denver this last season. What 1114 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: do you think he's got in the tank to make 1115 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: another run and be maybe the second guy ever to 1116 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: get a third Super Bowl ring with the Bills. Well, 1117 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie the buddies a lot. That's a 1118 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of Bundy that vond Miller got from Buffalo. You know, 1119 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: Denver really won. Well, I don't know if the team 1120 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: wanted him back as much as the fan base wanted 1121 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: him back. I do a show here in Denver. I 1122 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: certainly was advocating let's go get Von back. We needed 1123 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: a pass rusher, but it was clear that the money 1124 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: just got out of control and the Bronco's working to 1125 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: be able to do it. Von got the most money 1126 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: of any of that rushers this year at thirty three 1127 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: years old. So I do think that the money would 1128 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: be the only, like, wow, one hundred and twenty million dollars. 1129 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: I think he's the only player in NFL history as 1130 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: a non quarterback to get two one hundred million dollars contracts. 1131 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty amazing at thirty three years old to be 1132 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: getting that. All that being said, I mean, it's all 1133 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: about what do you need? You guys have got a 1134 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: great football team. Josh Allen's a great football player. You 1135 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need von Miller to be who he was 1136 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 1: four or five years ago. You need von Miller to 1137 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: get eight or nine, maybe ten or eleven sacks, but 1138 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: get him at the right time. And that's what he 1139 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: did over the Super Bowl year. You know, de Marcus 1140 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: ware over that Super Bowl year, I don't remember how 1141 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: many sacks he had, but it certainly wasn't a career 1142 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: high for him. But when he got them, he was 1143 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: in a strip saxe. He was getting it on third 1144 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: and longs. He's flipping the field. And that's what Vond's 1145 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna have the ability to do for you. Vaughan in 1146 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: a competitive environment is as good as anybody in the NFL. 1147 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: And he's got a great team over there, and I 1148 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: think that that's probably going to bring out a little 1149 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: bit of second life at him knowing that he gets 1150 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: to go on another run with Buffalo. Yeah, because he 1151 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: was even saying that the reason he made this decision 1152 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: was because it energized him. And I guess when you 1153 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: know you've been in the league, awhile, you kind of 1154 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: look for those other things to stimulate you in that 1155 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: way and keep you engaged. I don't have to tell you, Tyler. 1156 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: You know the physical demands that this sport puts on 1157 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: people week after week after week. What is what is 1158 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: his motor like? I mean, is it is it always 1159 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: running hot? Or does he sometimes look for those extra 1160 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: things to get him juiced up? Well, when he left 1161 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: Denver and went to the Rams, I thought he looks 1162 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: a little way amped up. I'm not gonna lie, and 1163 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: I imagine that's what it's gonna look like when he 1164 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,919 Speaker 1: goes to Buffalo. So, you know, it's hard for any 1165 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: human being to be is six years of bad football 1166 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: like the Broncos had had the environment he was in, 1167 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: that's hard for anybody to bring out their best to 1168 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: get your absolute a game. And when Von went to 1169 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: the Rams too, what did he have like eight or 1170 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 1: nine sacks in the last seven games there with the Rams. 1171 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: It was flat out incredible. So I think that the 1172 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 1: fact that you guys are a really competitive team that's 1173 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: really gonna bring out the best in Von Millers. So 1174 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, if if if thirty three years old, you 1175 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: get that paid a I do think they would be 1176 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 1: easy for a normal human being to kind of be like, 1177 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: all right, I've done at all, Do I really have 1178 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: to show up. I got no worries about von Miller 1179 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: showing up for Buffalo bills. He'll be there, He'll be 1180 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: making big plays, maybe not as many as he wants did, 1181 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: but I bet they're as timely as they once were. Yeah, 1182 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: you're you played offensive tackleing. You're you're like one of 1183 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: those six eight guys. Right, You're a tall, tall dude, right, 1184 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: and Von Well of a dinosaur. Tackles are tackles are 1185 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: not this tall anymore. They're all like six foot five, 1186 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,919 Speaker 1: six foot six, right. So, so Buffalo's got a couple 1187 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: of these young guys. We've got like Spencer Brown, who's 1188 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: a six eight kid out of Iowa State, and we've 1189 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: got um, you know, Dion Dawkins on the other side, 1190 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: who's exactly one of those six five kind of three 1191 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: hundred pounders. What kind of problem does because Vaughn is 1192 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: not you know, he's not DeMarcus Ware. You know, he's 1193 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: built different. He's a he's a six two guy, you know, 1194 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and kind of a speed power kind of guy. Give 1195 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: us an idea of what kind of problems Vaughns presents 1196 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, even at this point of his career. 1197 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 1: What kind of style does he have? Yeah, well, everything 1198 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 1: about von Miller is all about timing and speed. He 1199 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,919 Speaker 1: calls him his taxes. You're gonna pay his taxes. He's 1200 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna get six or seven false starts over the course 1201 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 1: of the season or excuse me, off sides. Uh, And 1202 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: that's going to happen because he's always trying to time 1203 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: the center's head bob, and when he gets that head bob, 1204 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: he's gone and that's going He's gonna jump offsides a 1205 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: handful of times over the course of the season. He 1206 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: literally refers it to his paying his taxes because what 1207 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: he's trying to do is to get those tackles to 1208 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: open up their shoulders. You know, I was a teamate 1209 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: of Bonds. I also had to play against Von and 1210 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: playing against Von. I can tell you that when he 1211 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: gets that first step, it makes you a panic because 1212 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: you open up your shoulders and you get perpendicular to 1213 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. As a tackle, you want your 1214 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: shoulders parallel. If he gets that first step or two 1215 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: and you feel like you're beat, well, now he's got 1216 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: everything he wants. He can hit that inside spin, you 1217 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 1: can hit the inside bong arm he's got you off balance. 1218 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Or he can dip and rip and go around in 1219 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 1: the corner. He's we call it the ghost technique where 1220 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: he comes in he acts like he's gonna get you 1221 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: with that long arm, and then he just dips underneath 1222 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: the tackle and tackles. Oftentimes they literally just with on him. 1223 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: So everything's about speed with Vond. He's not the tallest, 1224 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: he's not the biggest, he's not necessarily the strongest. But 1225 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the speed that he sets up his rushes with gets 1226 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: offensive tackles so off base that he's able to basically 1227 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. Let's switch gears. Who the Broncos here, 1228 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: who have a new head coach. They've got a new quarterback, 1229 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, a guy that's somewhat familiar to Bills fans. 1230 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: You know, he was a young offensive coordinator here under 1231 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: Doug Morone about sevent eight years ago and has finally 1232 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: gotten a head coaching opportunity. Energetic guy. I probably don't 1233 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: have to tell you that with your first couple of 1234 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 1: interactions with him. How is he being received in Denver 1235 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: by the fan base? They love him. He's the opposite. 1236 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: You know how it goes when you fire a coach, 1237 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: you do the opposite. You go from old guy, you 1238 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: go to young guy. You go from defensive guy, you 1239 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 1: go to offensive guy, you go to watching the paint dry. 1240 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: That's how boring. Vic Fangel was what he would speak 1241 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: to the media to getting mister energetic hip hop dancer 1242 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett. He literally was a hip hop dancer before 1243 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: he was a coach. It's pretty amazing. Nathaniel Hackett is 1244 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna have some growing pains, but I think that 1245 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the pairing that he's got with Russell Wilson's gonna help 1246 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: them to kind of learn that a little bit. Look, 1247 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's in town now, and Russell Wilson's officially the 1248 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: biggest name in the building more so than Nathaniel Hackett. 1249 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 1: And if Russell Wilson wants to run a certain style 1250 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: of offense. Guess what Hackett's gonna say? Okay, and wisely so, 1251 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: because you go trade for a guy like Russell Wilson, 1252 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: what's the point of getting them unless you're going to 1253 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 1: empower him to do the things he wants to do. 1254 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett's full of energy, he's fun, he's got great quotes, 1255 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: he's a media's best friend. I mean, we got we 1256 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: got audio left and right that we're using from Nathaniel Hackett. 1257 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: But I do think that it's fair to assume, you know, 1258 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: any do a head coach, they're gonna have their growing pains, 1259 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and I'm sure Nathaniel Hackett will as well. What's the 1260 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: first step in this free agency period after they trade 1261 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson? Obviously, how are they going to help 1262 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: him win games? And what are maybe some of the 1263 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: small or maybe big missing pieces of the Broncos got 1264 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 1: to fill in this drafting and free agency. Yeah, well, 1265 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 1: they've made a few smaller moves. They've gone out and 1266 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: picked up a linebacker, and they've resigned a few of 1267 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: their own guys. I guess the biggest free agent that 1268 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: we got was Randy Gregory from the Dallas Cowboys, and 1269 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, he was I think I'm trying to remember. 1270 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: I think he was the second pass rusher off the board, 1271 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: and the Broncos got him on a relatively cheap deal, 1272 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,479 Speaker 1: especially in comparison to Von Miller's deal or Chandler Jones deal. 1273 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory's got a lot of time that he's best 1274 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: because of the suspension. So the talent is there with 1275 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, it's just simply whether you can keep him 1276 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: on the field. You know, there's a few pieces that 1277 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos still need to fill. But I think the 1278 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Bronk could feel like from day one of Russell Wilson 1279 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: they're competitive. It's probably not about year one. It's probably 1280 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: about year two and year three and year two and 1281 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: year three is when was the Peyton Manning effect took over. 1282 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 1: So in year one of Peyton Manning, they didn't get 1283 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: all those free agents to come to town. It was 1284 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: year two that everybody said, oh, we want to go 1285 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: to Denver. That's what everybody's banking on here with Russell 1286 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Wilson as well, and heck, Buffalo Bills are benefited from 1287 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: that as well. With Josh Allen, which is the reason 1288 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: why von Miller's is in Buffalo. Yeah, so Tyler. With 1289 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 1: respect to the offense, well, you know, Noah Fan went 1290 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: the other way in the Russell Wilson trade, So there's 1291 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: a perceived hole at tight end. kJ Hammler, if memory serves, 1292 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: is coming off a major injury that cost him just 1293 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 1: about all of last season. And Sutton, I guess all 1294 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, got through last season after 1295 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 1: missing the previous year, and Jerry Judy even missed some 1296 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 1: time with injuries. So is it viewed as we just 1297 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 1: gotta get everybody healthy and we're fine, or do you 1298 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 1: see them looking to add pieces in terms of weapons offensively, 1299 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: be a free agency or the draft. I think they're 1300 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 1: about done on the offensive side of the ball. They 1301 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: got a few holes they got to fill on the 1302 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. But if you really look 1303 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,919 Speaker 1: at the offense, hey, you extended two wide receivers last year. 1304 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 1: You extended Tim Patrick and seriously, like forty eight hours later, 1305 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: you extended Courtland Sutton. So you got your one and 1306 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: two wide receivers there. Jerry Judy probably should be the 1307 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 1: number two or even the number one, but Jerry Judy 1308 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 1: is not produced very much since he's been in Denver. 1309 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: He had a goose age last year, zero touchdowns and 1310 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: that's been concerning. Now, Jerry Judy has got all kinds 1311 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: of talent, and I do think the Russell Wilson's gonna 1312 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 1: bring out the best him. As far as tight end goes, 1313 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Russell has never used his tight ends, so losing Noah 1314 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: Fan doesn't really change much for Russell Wilson because he's 1315 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: always had run first tight ends and he's never really 1316 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: utilized them in the backfield. Broncos has got Javante Williams. 1317 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Maybe they bring Melvin Gordon back, see how the market 1318 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: shakes loose here. I don't think they're gonna bring Melbourne 1319 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: Gordon back in three or four million dollars a year, 1320 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: which is probably what he's hoping for. But if the 1321 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: market settles down, Melbourne was a good football player for 1322 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: the Broncos last year and bring him back at the 1323 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 1: right price. Are the what are the fans expectations for 1324 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: this team this year? And what are the what are 1325 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: the realistic expectations for this year? Yeah? Yeah, you know 1326 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: that's the battle that I fight every day on my show. 1327 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: We got Russell Wilson. So fans are like, we're super Bowl. Well, listen, 1328 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 1: you're playing in division with Patrick Mahomes, with Justin Herbert, 1329 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: with Derek Carr. To win US super Bowl would be 1330 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 1: an incredible accomplishment for Russell Wilson. He said in his 1331 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: opening presser, he wants to play ten or twelve more 1332 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: years and win three or four more Super Bowls. That 1333 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: would make him about forty five years old, forty six 1334 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: years old. Hey, you give me one or two super Bowls, 1335 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I'll be happy. My personal expectation, year one, get to 1336 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs. See what happens. You know, if you're lose 1337 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: in the first round, okay, if you lose in the 1338 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 1: second round, okay. But year two, year three, there's no 1339 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 1: reason why you shouldn't be in contention for the Super Bowl. 1340 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 1: AFC West, that's gonna be fascinating to see, you know, 1341 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: with the new playoff rules and everything, how many teams 1342 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: make the playoffs out of the FC West, Because there's 1343 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: no question it's the best division in football. Can you 1344 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: get three? Can you even maybe get four teams into 1345 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That'd be hard to do because they're probably 1346 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: going to cannibalize themselves a little bit, but it's gonna 1347 01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 1: be a lot of good football at AFC West. Yeah. 1348 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: Last one I've got for you, Tyler, is how fascinated 1349 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,280 Speaker 1: are you by the arms race that the AFC West 1350 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 1: became this offseason? And maybe it was the Wilson trade 1351 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,719 Speaker 1: that really triggered everything, but you know, Juju Smith Schuster 1352 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. Davante Adams is now in the division 1353 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: with the Raiders like it's and it's off the chain, 1354 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 1: like how these teams are back and forth. I mean, 1355 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,879 Speaker 1: and the Chargers who have been one of the biggest 1356 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,639 Speaker 1: you know, people throwing money around in terms of free 1357 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: agent as. So have you seen anything like this within 1358 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 1: one division in one offseason. I don't know that I have. 1359 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: I don't recall it. I really don't. It's pretty amazing. 1360 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,759 Speaker 1: You know, the Raiders went out, they got Chandler Jones, 1361 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: they got Davante Adams in the big trade Chargers traded 1362 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,879 Speaker 1: for Khalil Mack. Chiefs continue to sign great football players. 1363 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: Broncos have been very aggressive in trade and free agency. 1364 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: This is pretty amazing. It's fun, it's exciting. It's also 1365 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: a little bit terrifying because Hey, you know what, the 1366 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 1: Super Bowl's heart. Aaron Rodgers has got one of those things. 1367 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's one of those things. And to think that 1368 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 1: he's going to come here to Denver in the AFC 1369 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 1: West and win three or four, Hey, Russ, I hope 1370 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 1: you're right. Probably not realistic. You get one or two, 1371 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I'll be happy. On a personal level, Tyler, thanks good 1372 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: luck this season. I know it's a it's a long road. 1373 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 1: We always look forward to the offseason, then when we 1374 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: get there we realize there isn't one. So I appreciate 1375 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 1: you taking some time for us any time. Guys have fun, 1376 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 1: all right. That's Tyler Columbus Broncos radio color analyst, Denver 1377 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 1: sports radio host. We appreciate the time, all right. So 1378 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Tyler with some good things to offer there on von 1379 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: Miller and I think you said it best probably when 1380 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 1: we had branded on last hour, which is basically he 1381 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: may not be an eighteen sack of year guy anymore, 1382 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 1: but if he gets nine or ten, that are timely. 1383 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 1: And it's so funny because I was talking about this 1384 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: last week off the year when we were trying to 1385 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: figure out that's when Ler Jones had been signed by 1386 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders. They're like, oh, maybe that's not in the cards. 1387 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 1: What kind of guy do we need? Oh, we just 1388 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: need a veteran guy. And I'm like, no, we need 1389 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 1: a guy that can make a big play in the 1390 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I was like, hey, remember when you were playing. 1391 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you because I remember when you were playing 1392 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: and you guys needed a big defensive play in a 1393 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You knew Bruce was gonna get that for you. 1394 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: They might have that now in von Miller. They need 1395 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: a guy who's a real problem all the time. And 1396 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think von Miller is that guy. 1397 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: When you bring him in, he's always going to be 1398 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: that guy. You need a He is, no question, the 1399 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 1: most decorated guy on the Bill's front. Now that he's 1400 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 1: a Bill, and that means when you line up, the 1401 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,759 Speaker 1: quarterback's gonna look around find him first. Yeah, and that's 1402 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 1: and that's what that means. And there's a trickle down 1403 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,879 Speaker 1: effect there, Make no mistake about that. I know everybody's 1404 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 1: talking about. Oh that means more one on ones for 1405 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, people like a JP Andesa and Greg Russou 1406 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,640 Speaker 1: and Bokie bash him if they're on the field. On 1407 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: the other side. It's also got to free head up 1408 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 1: a little bit too, I think on the inside because 1409 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 1: you got a slide protection of von you don't have 1410 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 1: a choice. Brandon being alluded to it as well Ed 1411 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: is a is a fast, explosive athlete who does some 1412 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 1: really nice things in past in past rush, mostly because 1413 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 1: he can. They can get him singled with the big 1414 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: bodies they brought in. And you know that's gonna help 1415 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: because teams now, and he's right when you have Ed 1416 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: on the field, teams will run right at him because 1417 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: he's like a two eighty five guy. That two hundred 1418 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 1: and eighty five pounds sounds like a lot, it's not 1419 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 1: when you got three hundred and twenty five pound guys 1420 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 1: doubling him and pushing him to the second level or 1421 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 1: trying to anyway. So um, all that that changes the 1422 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,799 Speaker 1: dynamic with a guy like Vaughan on the outside, particularly 1423 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 1: in the pass rush, because all right, wait a minute, now, okay, 1424 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 1: so we you know you got this guy and here 1425 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 1: who's a pass rush of the defensive tackle and you 1426 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,600 Speaker 1: got you know, Vaughan on the same Now you know 1427 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Vaughan on the same side. That's going to be an 1428 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 1: issue for teams. You can beat them with speed and power, 1429 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:09,759 Speaker 1: and the combination has become big, really big. And we'll 1430 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: start in with this conversation when training camp starts. But 1431 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 1: we said it last year, they're going to start doing 1432 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 1: the chemistry test. Okay, what's this combination? How do they work? All? Right? 1433 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 1: What if we switched these two guys around on the 1434 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 1: same combination of guys, but two different guys in different spots. Okay, 1435 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: now switch this guy, Now double this guy, put this guy. 1436 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, all these experimentations work or go into effect 1437 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 1: in the training camp and they say, okay, what's our 1438 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: best pass rush combination? Who's out there and how they 1439 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 1: lined up? And as much as we've heard the personnel 1440 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: department and the coaching staff talk about position flexibility and 1441 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 1: how much they coveted in players that was mostly on 1442 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line, I think you've got defensive tackles that 1443 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 1: you've signed here that our position flexible as well. I mean, 1444 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 1: first of all, you got Chack, who we've actually seen 1445 01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,919 Speaker 1: on this defense kick inside and go down to defensive 1446 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,639 Speaker 1: tackle in an obvious pass rushing situation. And Brandon Being 1447 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,519 Speaker 1: said it in his press conference last Friday when he 1448 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: was saying to Kwan Jones, he can play the one 1449 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 1: or the three technique, he could play nos or he 1450 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 1: could play undertackle. Same thing with Tim Settle in his opinion, 1451 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 1: and we've seen Jordan Phillips do it in a Bill's uniform. 1452 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 1: There were times where he would play the three or 1453 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: he would play the one. Sometimes he'd be sitting there 1454 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,719 Speaker 1: next to Star and then other times he'd be sitting 1455 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: there next to Ed. So it's you got problems if 1456 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: you're going against and these guys are all new, it's 1457 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 1: gonna take him some time to filter through the combinations 1458 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 1: of guys who play well together. And then you always 1459 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: have the added layer of um, you know, intangible. That's 1460 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: what's the offensive line they actually happened to be facing 1461 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: this week. What are their weaknesses? Okay, well, at this 1462 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,760 Speaker 1: offensive line, this combination might be best. If that offensive line, 1463 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,639 Speaker 1: this other combination might be best. It's a it's an 1464 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 1: endless matchup puzzle that has not even started to be 1465 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 1: solved yet. But with the level and the skill set, 1466 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 1: with the level of play and the skill sets these 1467 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 1: guys bring to the table, certainly even the combinations that 1468 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 1: don't work are going to be maybe more effective than 1469 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: the ones that didn't work last year. And you're gonna 1470 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 1: have a number of options going forward for sure. And 1471 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,919 Speaker 1: if you're doing the math, as we mentioned with Brandon, 1472 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: from a sheer number standpoint, he had six defensive alignment 1473 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 1: on expiring contracts. They've now added five, so they're pretty 1474 01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 1: much right there. Actually, if you count alien Ku, it's 1475 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: technically six because he resigned early in the process as 1476 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: a street free agent. So when you think about it, 1477 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 1: it's six because it's the three dts, it's Shack, it's 1478 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Vaughan and Elianku. So there's your six back in the fold. 1479 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Are they done there? Maybe not, but I would say 1480 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 1: most likely, And we'll just wait for the other shoe 1481 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 1: to drop. On these reports that creagent running back Duke 1482 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 1: Johnson could be signing a one year contract with the Bills, 1483 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,679 Speaker 1: break time here when we come back. An interesting story 1484 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: that I have to share about Jordan Phillips. We remember 1485 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,719 Speaker 1: in his press conference last week he said he watched 1486 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,799 Speaker 1: all of the Bills games while he was still playing 1487 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. I have some evidence to prove 1488 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 1: that he was accurate with that statement. I'll tell you 1489 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 1: what that is. When we return here on one Bills 1490 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Live presented by Klota Help, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. The 1491 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers are proud to host R J and I 1492 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,760 Speaker 1: presented by Wegman's during the team's home game against the 1493 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Nashville Predators on Friday, April first. The legendary career of 1494 01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Sabers played by play announcer Rick Jennette, will be not 1495 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,040 Speaker 1: honored when a banner bearing his name will join the 1496 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: ners of other Sabers legends and the rafters of key 1497 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Bank Center before the game. Yeah, you gotta get in there, 1498 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 1: get int your seats, like six forty that night, it's 1499 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: a seven pm game. Get in your seats early. Wegman's 1500 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 1: is presenting sponsor that night. It's been nice pregame ceremony, 1501 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 1: so you don't want to miss that. And you're the 1502 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,600 Speaker 1: same as me, and we got here. R J was 1503 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: already calling games right, right, So I'm in college at Geneseo, 1504 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 1: right and we were able to get g R five 1505 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 1: fifty in there a little scratchy because we're in the 1506 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: valley and uh, one of my suite mates was from 1507 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 1: Depute died in the Little Bills fan died in the 1508 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 1: little Sabers fan and yeah, I'm from Long Island. I 1509 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: don't know anything about the broadcasters up here. So he's like, 1510 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, you gotta listen to this guy. He's unbelievable, 1511 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 1: you know. So we're getting it in scratchy and I 1512 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, you hear red ah, you know, doing all 1513 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 1: that stuff, not just why. I was like, he's that 1514 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 1: excited about a shot that goes wide, Like how what 1515 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,720 Speaker 1: does he do when there's a goal? Right? It was 1516 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: just amazing. It's gonna be great ceremony that night, and 1517 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 1: then you know it is, it's April first, and then 1518 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: he's got five more games after that that he's gonna call, 1519 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 1: and his final game's gonna be on April twenty ninth 1520 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: versus Chicago Fan Appreciation Night is also that night. It's 1521 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,639 Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah, I'm gonna miss that guy. Yeah, but 1522 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,360 Speaker 1: definitely definitely cool. So if you're going to that game 1523 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 1: on April first, just make sure you're in your seats 1524 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: early because all the festivities are happening pregame when his 1525 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 1: banner goes to the rafters, So be sure to get 1526 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 1: your tickets number one and then number two b early 1527 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 1: so you can see all the festivities that will be 1528 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 1: going on to honor r J prior to opening face off. 1529 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 1: So I said before we left for a break that 1530 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: I had something to corroborate Jordan Phillips claim that he 1531 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,680 Speaker 1: was always interested in the Bills even after he left. Now. 1532 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,640 Speaker 1: He had this comment during the press conference after he 1533 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 1: signed with Buffalo late last week. I didn't miss a game. 1534 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you can ask me anything about a game 1535 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: and I can probably tell you I talked to the 1536 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 1: guys constantly, you know, stayed in touch. This was when 1537 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 1: I left. It was real close knit group. First time 1538 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 1: that I felt part of a football team that's like 1539 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 1: more of a family. So it was easy. I guess 1540 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: you could see the guys in the off season. We 1541 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 1: still hung out. And you have the best best quarterback 1542 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,439 Speaker 1: in the league. You have one of the best receivers 1543 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 1: in the league. We just signed the best pass rusher 1544 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 1: in the league. Ed's playing really well. You're gonna get 1545 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: your Davious White back. You have the two best safeties 1546 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: in the league, got one of the best linebackers in 1547 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: the league. Why wouldn't you come back? So we you 1548 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 1: know that. That was a very popular social media post 1549 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 1: over the weekend and understandably so. But what you've heard 1550 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 1: him say there about watching every single one of their games. 1551 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,959 Speaker 1: So I'm out in Kansas City covering the divisional playoff 1552 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,599 Speaker 1: his past playoff season, and I'm in the hotel lobby. 1553 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 1: It's the day before the game. I've just checked in, 1554 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 1: so it's like, what was that a Sunday game? Yeah, 1555 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: so it's Saturday afternoon. And who walks in to the 1556 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 1: hotel lobby. It's Jordan Phillips and his wife. Now, this 1557 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: isn't totally shocking to me because I know he lives 1558 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 1: outside Kansas City. He's from this I think he's from 1559 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: Kansas or Missouri, it's one or the other. I think 1560 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 1: he's from Olaith, which is Kansas, Kansas, Okay, So you 1561 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 1: know he's not far. So it doesn't shock me that 1562 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,760 Speaker 1: he's there. What does shock me He is decked out 1563 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:47,480 Speaker 1: head to toe in Bill's gear. His contract hasn't expired 1564 01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. This is one week removed from US 1565 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 1: witnessing Ryan Fitzpatrick in the stands rooting for the Bills, 1566 01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,040 Speaker 1: who's still under contract with Washington at the time. I 1567 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 1: granted he was going to be a free agent, but 1568 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips is still under contract. He had another year 1569 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 1: left on his deal, and he's there head to toe 1570 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 1: in Bill's gear. He busted out, he got in the 1571 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 1: closet and got a sell out, you know. I mean. 1572 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: So he sees me in the lobby and I had 1573 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 1: done a long story on him for Buffalo bills dot com. 1574 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,240 Speaker 1: So we had chatted more than a few times when 1575 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 1: he was here, and he's like, hey, what's going on. 1576 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,960 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, good to see you know. I said, uh, 1577 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 1: you're all ready to root for your boys. He goes, h, yeah, 1578 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 1: can't you. We're just you know, we're just shooting the 1579 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 1: breeze or whatever. And I knew he still had a 1580 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,639 Speaker 1: year left on his contract. I said, how's how's everything? 1581 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,719 Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry about Arizona because if you remember, 1582 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 1: they got knocked out of the playoffs. He goes, ah, 1583 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I said, what's going to 1584 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,559 Speaker 1: happen there this year? He goes, I don't know. He goes, 1585 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've kind of missed some games because 1586 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 1: I've gotten nicked up and stuff. I don't know what 1587 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: they think. He goes, It's gonna depend on what they 1588 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,720 Speaker 1: want to spend in free agency because so he kind 1589 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: of knew, like, sure he could be a salary cap casualty. 1590 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,760 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm thinking to myself, you know, if 1591 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,600 Speaker 1: this guy gets clipped, I could see him wanting to 1592 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: come back to Buffalo. Oh yeah, he had so success here. Yeah, 1593 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 1: and Star Latula walks into the lobby, came back from 1594 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 1: picking up a bite to eat or something. They're all 1595 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 1: bear hugging each other, and I realized Star isn't here now. 1596 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 1: But those two guys were tight. Star kind of kept 1597 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: him in line when he was here the last time, 1598 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 1: and they became tight buddies. So it's probably a little 1599 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,479 Speaker 1: disappointing that Star isn't here anymore, But there are plenty 1600 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: of other relationships that he built on this roster. But 1601 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: just seeing him interact with the players on the roster, 1602 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,720 Speaker 1: still a member of the Arizona Cardinals under contract, and 1603 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,720 Speaker 1: then he went to the game the next day, so 1604 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 1: he went to the game too. So to hear him 1605 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 1: say he watched every game, yes, I believe him one 1606 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent. Yeah, it's amazing that you get 1607 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 1: a guy like Jordan Phillips, and it's that he says 1608 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: he's never been around a team that felt so much 1609 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,559 Speaker 1: like a family like that. And I'll say it again. 1610 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time, how much the 1611 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 1: game demands of these guys and how you know, And 1612 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips em telling you he goes to the Arizona Carls, 1613 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,160 Speaker 1: he's nicked up, he's hurt. It happens all the time. 1614 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,000 Speaker 1: Got every single guy on your roster's gonna get hurt 1615 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 1: during the season, if not injured. If you get the difference, 1616 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,599 Speaker 1: everybody hurts, but when you're injured, it's a little different. 1617 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,479 Speaker 1: But every every guy gets hurt, every guy, kicker, punter, 1618 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,720 Speaker 1: long snapper, and everybody in between them and the starting quarterback. 1619 01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,719 Speaker 1: And you know it. You just absolutely know it's gonna happen. 1620 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 1: You don't know how, when or where or whatever, but 1621 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt. The game's gonna hurt, and when it 1622 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:46,000 Speaker 1: makes that demand of you, it means way more than 1623 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 1: perhaps any other sport who you're hurting for. Yeah, you, 1624 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 1: what's the atmosphere like, am I Is this team really 1625 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,120 Speaker 1: worth my pain? And for a lot of guys, when 1626 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: they get a taste of a team that, yeah, you 1627 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,200 Speaker 1: really feel like you're willing to do it, let's go. 1628 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,559 Speaker 1: It makes an enormous difference in your career when you 1629 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,120 Speaker 1: compare and contrast where you've played before and what it's 1630 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,720 Speaker 1: like on other teams, and that feeling you get when 1631 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,600 Speaker 1: you're going out there with the guys that are like that, 1632 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 1: that you do love and respect. It's really something that 1633 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 1: becomes really important when it's absent, you know what I mean. 1634 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 1: And the other thing that's important too, Steve, and we've 1635 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 1: talked about this the bills. You need guys that bring 1636 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: juice to the game every week, and we talk about 1637 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,479 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie. He's a juice player. He might not be 1638 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 1: a super rah rah jump up in the al kind 1639 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 1: of guy, but he's a juice player. He brings juice. 1640 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,000 Speaker 1: How many times have we heard Sean McDermott say he 1641 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,799 Speaker 1: loves Shack Lawson's energy. Shack Lawson is a juice player. 1642 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 1: He may not be a world beater, but he's gonna 1643 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 1: get everybody jazzed up to go get the quarterback. Those 1644 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 1: were kind of guys too, Like they lost Joan Phillips 1645 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: does that with the crowd all the time. They lost 1646 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of that with John fley Siano being gone, um, 1647 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,599 Speaker 1: and Spencer Brown's got a little of that, right, Spencer 1648 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 1: Bress got a little of that you need. And I 1649 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,599 Speaker 1: don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole here, 1650 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 1: but and I've we've talked about this and laughed about it. 1651 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: You need guys that if if there's a scuffle on 1652 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,960 Speaker 1: the field, if they're not in the middle of it, 1653 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 1: they are trying to get there. They want to be 1654 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of every scuffle and fight and confrontation. 1655 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,720 Speaker 1: You fought Leonard Fournette, well, Leonard four yeah, and I'll 1656 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 1: say what, Leonard Fournette came across the field to get 1657 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of it. That's a guy, guy you like. 1658 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 1: And he got released by that club and now he's 1659 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 1: visiting with New England today, right that Leonard Fournette is 1660 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: one of those guys there. You we know who they are. 1661 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,639 Speaker 1: You've seen him, you can see him on the field. 1662 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Guys who don't care, don't put up with it. They 1663 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 1: love the confrontation. You want to get into a scuffle, 1664 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 1: let's go. Not everybody on your team needs to be 1665 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,680 Speaker 1: like that or or is like that what you need, 1666 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,320 Speaker 1: but you gotta have some of them. Otherwise you turn 1667 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 1: you're a little too soft, you know, and you lack 1668 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,599 Speaker 1: a little bit of mental toughness. Guys who are willing 1669 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 1: to set this standard and keep it there, you know. Yeah, 1670 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: And I think it's important. I think Shack is that, 1671 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 1: and I think Jordan can be that when he's amped up. 1672 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, when that guy is a he's a dangerous human. 1673 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever stood next to him? He's a big dude. 1674 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,639 Speaker 1: He's about I mean, he's listed at three twenty four 1675 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 1: arnoy in hell, he's three hundred and twenty four pounds. Yea, 1676 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 1: he is pushing three forty. Yeah, he's he can move 1677 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 1: three forty and he can move at three forty. He's 1678 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 1: a big body, and he's he's high energy. It's it's 1679 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 1: really gonna be Yeah, he's he's a plus. We're watching 1680 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 1: how I'm sitting there watching highlights from the Sunday night 1681 01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 1: Steelers game. You know you got mister Renegade back, Matt Barkley, 1682 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 1: and Barkley's back for the guy, he of the swinging poncho. Yeah, 1683 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,360 Speaker 1: that it's amazing. Got a little bit of the band 1684 01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:49,120 Speaker 1: back together again from their playoff run and uh two 1685 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, it's it's intriguing. He got some juice, guys, man, 1686 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna help. It's gonna help. Up front. I think 1687 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 1: it's got and I know it too. You see you 1688 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,439 Speaker 1: on social media. Bills fans are all about it. It 1689 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 1: is fun to be a fan of a team that 1690 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,240 Speaker 1: other players wish they were playing on. And don't forget, 1691 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,560 Speaker 1: Phillips likes playing against Miami because that's the team that 1692 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 1: cast them off. There's always called them lazy, all that 1693 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,120 Speaker 1: other stuff. So that'll be two games for sure where 1694 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,679 Speaker 1: the chin strap will be double strap. I think, yeah, 1695 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,880 Speaker 1: he'll I think he'll take the opening snap of those 1696 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 1: games and I'll just put that on a whiteboard. All right, 1697 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 1: we'll have more whiteboard material. All right, break time for us, 1698 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Steve and I to close things up here next on 1699 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 1: a Monday, Here on one Bills Live, presented by Colloid 1700 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 1: of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back 1701 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 1: here on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker closing up 1702 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,960 Speaker 1: shop with you with a couple of more notes. There's 1703 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback note. Teddy Bridgewater of the Miami Dolphins signed 1704 01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 1: a one year deal last week. It was widely assumed 1705 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 1: he was going to be the backup to to a 1706 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:10,439 Speaker 1: tongue of Ioloa, But when he was asked about being 1707 01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:15,719 Speaker 1: the backup, Teddy Bridgewater would not confirm or deny whether 1708 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:21,520 Speaker 1: he was told he was to his backup upon signing. Quote, Honestly, 1709 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:29,640 Speaker 1: that's a conversation I'd rather keep in house. What he so? 1710 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 1: Does that mean? Are we looking at a potential quarterback 1711 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 1: competition in Miami as the world turns? Did Davy Florida? 1712 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Does that mean he doesn't want to lie and say 1713 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 1: I was told I'm the starter? I'm starter? Or lie 1714 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 1: i'd be? Or does he not want to lie and 1715 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,639 Speaker 1: say I was told I was going to be the backup? Oh? 1716 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,720 Speaker 1: I so love that this is everyone else and not us. 1717 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and you know what, It's probably one 1718 01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,400 Speaker 1: of the more popular tweets I've seen from Bill's fans 1719 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,719 Speaker 1: out on social media from basically January to now, I'm 1720 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,240 Speaker 1: so glad we have I'm so glad we're not there. 1721 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,799 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Happy birthday to head coach Sean McDermott, forty 1722 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: eight years young today. I hope you have a great birthday, coach, 1723 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,680 Speaker 1: and blow out all the candles We'll see you on 1724 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:24,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday at one. Everybody