1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listener mail. 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: This is Robert Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: it's Monday, the day of each week that we read 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: back messages from the Stuff to Blow your Mind mail bag. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: If you are a listener to the show and you've 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: never gotten in touch before, why not give it a try. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: You can email us at contact at stuff to Blow 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: your Mind dot com. Any kind of message is fair game. 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Of course, feedback on recent episodes is always appreciated. 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I 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: think we should start off with some responses to our 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: series on bathing and beliefs about the supposed healing powers 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: of immersion in water and various warm mineral springs and 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: things like that. Rob, do you do you want to 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: start us off reading this message from Fun Sure Fun 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Rides High Folks really enjoyed the episode on the cultures 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: around bathing, and I'm looking forward to the rest of 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: the series. I thought it would be interesting that fatigue 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: was mentioned as something the ancient Romans believe could be 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: helped by bathing, as I deal with chronic fatigue and 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: always find starting my day with a hot shower boosts 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: my energy. I think this is by virtue of relaxing 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: my muscles and putting me in a good mood and 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: ties in with the idea of the full body experience 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: being an important aspect of this episode's topic. Well, yeah, 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: on that note, I don't I don't have to contend 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: with chronic fatigue, but I do find that a nice 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: hot shower is definitely a boost, regardless of what part 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: of the day I happen to take the shower in, Like, 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll take it first thing in the morning, sometimes later, 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, I'll take two, Sometimes I'll take one 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: of the gym, one of the house. That sort of 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: thing always like realigns the neurons in my experience. I 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: was going to say exactly the same thing even without 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: chronic fatigue. I find it is a hot shower is 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: kind of a crucial part of my wake up routine. 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: If I have to skip it, in a way, I 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of feel like I haven't woken up yet long 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: end of the day. Yeah, they continue here relating to 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: cold water. My strongest experience would be taking part in 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: the Christmas Swim, going into the sea on Christmas morning 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: with a few hundred others. There is always an intensely 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: joyful social atmosphere and much talk of kickstarting the immune system. 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I suspect that therapeutic aspect here is the carthosis of 52 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: collectively doing something that is a bit absurd, and of 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: course getting cozy afterwards is very satisfying. Yeah. As we 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: discussed in the episodes, While it seems there are some 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: isolated cases like chronic lead poisoning where bathing probably does 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: have a direct mechanism for healing, in most cases perceived 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: health benefits from bathing are more likely psychological, based in 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: either the placebo effect or in just you know, relaxation 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: and positive effects on mood. Though that's not to discount 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: these effects, because psychological benefits can be surprisingly powerful even 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: to how you feel in the body. Yeah, the cold tub. 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: The cold dip is of course a part of different 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: different sauna and spa cultures. I know there's a There's 64 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Grean sauna that I have gone to in the past 65 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: here in the Atlanta area, and they have they have 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: a cold tub amid their hot tubs, and I see 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: I would see people do the full immersion in the 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: cold tub, and it's it's just too cold for me. 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I think I got down up to my neck in 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: at once for maybe half a second, but that's the 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: most I could do, too shocking from my system. And 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: of course you see various like training videos of athletes 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: doing the not only cold bath, but like an ice 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: bath as part of their I guess like post workout regime. 75 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I haven't researched that at all to to 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: know like if that's something it's helpful with like sore 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: muscles and so forth. But if nothing else, it definitely 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: looks like they're getting a shock to the system. Okay, 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: more from the message. This episode also got me thinking 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: about scenes of bathing in Irish folklore stories I've read recently, 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: namely Lady Gregory's translations from the early nineteen hundreds. There 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: are regular occurrences of heroes being healed miraculously in baths 83 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: with healing herbs. Could this be considered tea and often 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: by bathing and broth? Bath and broth. I assume that 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: means like a meat broth. Yeah, I'm imagining the feeling now. 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of gelatin clinging to your skin 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: all over your body. Well, I mean it's off. And 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I've often seen it recommended that if you have itchy skin, 89 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: you might put some oats in the bath with you. 90 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: So there's a there's a thin line between culinary preparation 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: and just a good bath, I guess anyway, the message continues. 92 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: Immediate access to fresh bathing water also seemed important in 93 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: these stories for greeting guests, and a great moment is 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: when Kohland arrives somewhere in his godly fury the warp spasm. 95 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: To avoid Kholand's wrath, his host put out three baths 96 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: of cold water to literally quench his anger. When he 97 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: gets into the first bath, all the water is immediately evaporated, 98 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: the second boils over, and finally in the third bath 99 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: he can cool down and relax. Oh man, I don't 100 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: I don't remember encountering this in our past look at 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: coholand but I love this. This is almost like a 102 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Loony Tunes level trying to cool down the hot anger 103 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: of Koholand. Oh, it's also like a warp spasm version 104 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: of the Three Bears. Like the first two beds aren't 105 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: comfortable enough, the last one final works all right, and 106 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: finally they turned a weird house on. Weird House sent 107 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: him a note. Over the last few days, I had 108 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of older episodes on for some background listening, 109 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: and during one film about giant fighting robots, a character 110 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: used some kind of medical spray. I think it was 111 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: in Robot Shocks, but it may have been a different 112 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: giant robot picture. Anyway, you were wondering where you had 113 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: seen this medical spray before, thinking perhaps it was in 114 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: a video game. I was pretty sure it was in 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: a Metal Gear Solid game, and indeed, after checking the wiki, 116 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: the healing spray item appeared in MGSV but also quote 117 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: resembles the first date spray from the Resident Evil series. 118 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: Now at the end of this email, all I can 119 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: think of is magical healing bath in a can. Thanks 120 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: again for the great episodes, all the best. Well, thank 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: you for jan I was definitely thinking of the healing 122 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: spray from Resident Evil when I put this together. I 123 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: think I specifically would have been thinking about Resident Evil 124 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: for I don't know, like a zombie. I say, chunk 125 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: out of your neck, and the way you get better 126 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: is you take an aerosol can and spray yourself. There's 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: some goodness. There's some other game that I played or 128 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: replayed recently that in retrospect also had this. Maybe it 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: was maybe it was X Calm. I have this vague 130 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: memory of some sort of floating robot coming over and 131 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: like hosing down a character with some sort of a 132 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: spray to heal them up. I feel like it would 133 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: make more sense if what you were being sprayed with 134 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: was like nanobots like the ones from Jason X that 135 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: going in repair all your tissue. I don't know exactly 136 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: how just the regular spray works. It's a disinfectant, I suppose. Yeah. 137 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: All right, onto the next message about the washing of 138 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: the waters. This is from Sean, and this one calls 139 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: back to something we addressed in one of the episodes 140 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: where at one of the warm springs in Ireland where 141 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: there was allegedly a healing property, there was a source 142 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: rob you were talking about that said people would like 143 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: gather up a worm that lived in the spring, and 144 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: the worm would be like in a cloth, and then 145 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: they would rub that cloth on their eyes. And then 146 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: the source also said people didn't leave the cloth hanging 147 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: on a shrub nearby because there wasn't a saint associated 148 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: with the spring. And we were mighty confused by this. 149 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: We were like, wait, is this saying that they didn't 150 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: leave a cloth because like a saint wasn't there to 151 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: make them be altruistic or something. But Sean helps clear 152 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: this up. High in relation to washing of the water's 153 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: Part two, specifically folklore remedies from Ireland, it is tradition 154 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: to leave items, typically cloth, hanging from the local bushes 155 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: or trees at holy wells with the belief that it 156 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: will be blessed by the saint of those waters and 157 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: imbued with some property. The same can be seen of 158 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: trinkets left on top of the site. This can be 159 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: seen to this day amongst the countless wells across our landscape. 160 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Many also have some ritual in how they are approached 161 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: or utilized. How much of these traditions stem from pagan 162 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: versus strictly Christian practice. I cannot say. I suspect it 163 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: is a syncretism, meaning a blending of different religious traditions, 164 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: as there are pagan myths involving wells as sources of healing. 165 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: This syncretism of older cultural practices can be seen amongst 166 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: our art and stories in insular Christianity. A wider example 167 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: can be seen of this on Saint Bridget's Day, where 168 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: folks leave cloth outside the house to be blessed by her. 169 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I guess, meaning Saint Bridget. She is one of our 170 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: three national saints, alongside comb Seal. I think that might 171 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: also be known as Columba and Patrick, and typically is 172 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: associated with protection and healing. I'm not so sure what 173 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: the whole idea is regarding application of a worm in 174 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: a soaked cloth onto the eye. A weak argument can 175 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: be made general health improvements could be made from cleaning 176 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: wounds with fresh water sources filtered by the rocks under 177 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: the ground, or potentially the composition of the water having 178 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: some effect, but I'd tend towards placebos. One example in 179 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: which I cannot speak to the veracity of the claim 180 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: involves I'll try to say this to buyer nanialt i e. 181 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: The well at Glenn nanialt It's curative properties are said 182 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: to stop madness again. It appears once or twice in 183 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: general myths and local folklore. The unfaified claim relates to 184 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: low levels of lithium having been identified in the water source, 185 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: which could induce antidepressive or antipsychosis effects over time. We'll 186 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: rob this connects to a note from our last episode 187 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: on the beliefs about healing waters, specifically about so called 188 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: lithium springs or lithium or lithia waters. I think you 189 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: may confirm this. Our conclusions were that actual pharmacological effects 190 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: from lithium springs would be really held back by dosage 191 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: regulation issues. So it seemed fairly doubtful to us that 192 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: people were really getting direct lithium treatment benefits from these 193 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: supposed waters because often, like the lithium level was so 194 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: low that it was like not anywhere close to what 195 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: you would take as an actual medical dose, but even 196 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: if it were higher, it would be unregulated in a 197 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: way that might be dangerous. Yeah, exactly, Like during the 198 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: time period that lithium water was initially really hot, Like 199 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: that was the that was the problem, as people would 200 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: then looked at the water to analyze the water and 201 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: they said, whoa, there's actually little to no lithium in 202 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: this water, so you're nowhere near at therapeutic dose. And 203 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: I also want to again thanks to Sean, because this 204 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: email came in before we did that episode, and so 205 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: this email helped inform our treatment of the Lithia Waters 206 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: segment of those episodes. Ah oh. And then finally Sean 207 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: includes a Gaelic greeting saying regards and a happy Saint 208 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day to you. Sean. Well, thank you very much 209 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: for the message. All right, we also heard from the 210 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Nation of Gems. I'm not sure which gym this says, 211 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: if this is a past gem or a new gym, 212 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: but this is not a gym from New Jersey, right right. 213 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: This jem says, Hey, guys, I'm enjoying the Washing of 214 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: the Water series. Rob is a fellow swimmer. Do you 215 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: find the quiet and peacefulness of the water muffling the 216 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: outside world to allow your mind to enter a contemplative 217 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: contemplative state? I enjoy swimming for the physical exercise, but 218 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: part of me enjoys the time I have to reflect 219 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: and muse on what is going on in my day 220 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: to day life. Thanks Jim. Well, that's a that's a 221 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: great question. I may have touch based on this a 222 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: little bit in the past, but I know when I'm swimming, 223 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: I'm generally doing one of two things. Either I'm structuring 224 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: my thoughts so as to keep track of what lane 225 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: I'm on, Like on this lane, I'm only going to 226 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: think about alien and then the second lap, I'm only 227 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: going to think about aliens and then Alien three, etc. 228 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: That seems to work. Or I'll do like a top 229 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: five of something just to do things in chunks of five. 230 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: But other times I will really sort of think structurally 231 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: about about something I'm I'm putting together, like for the 232 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: podcast or whatever, or some kind of like personal project 233 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: or something, and I find that really rewarding. But yeah, so, yeah, 234 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: there is something about the water muffling and so forth. 235 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: There's still a lot to distract one if you let 236 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: it distract you, in my experience, in like a YMCA pool, 237 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: because you can still you can still let these you know, 238 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: negative outside thoughts in you can let yourself get discouraged 239 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: or frustrated with people and situations around you, even in 240 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: the immediate vicinity so it's I don't know. I think 241 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: about the experience of being like a lap swimmer a lot, 242 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: like it's it's a bunch of people literally in their 243 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: own lane, doing their own thing, and uh, and sometimes 244 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: I worry that it's not, you know, it's not social enough, 245 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Like it's not there should be some sort of like 246 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: built in way that we're communicating with each other instead 247 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: of just doing our own things and and maybe eyeing 248 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: each other less communally, you know. But yeah, I guess 249 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: the water muffling is part of it. Like you're you know, 250 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: you're literally submerging yourself into this, uh, this altered state 251 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: of sensory perception. I think this is why people have 252 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts in the shower. Also, it is 253 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: not just that they are for the moment away from 254 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: all their other tasks and devices and media sources and stuff, 255 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: so they're alone with their own thoughts, but it's also 256 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: the I think the noise of the shower, like the 257 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: shower water coming down creates a white noise environment that 258 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: helps you sort of like let your thoughts wander. I 259 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: find that snorkeling can be even more relaxing. Snortling can 260 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: also be like for me anyway, it can be kind 261 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: of like high engagement, especially if I'm snorkeling in a 262 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: place that I haven't been to before. The water is 263 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: really cold. But if I'm like comfortable in a snortling 264 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: environment and there's some interesting stuff to look at, that's 265 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: really nice in my experience because you get that like 266 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: part of it is not only the muffling of the water, 267 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: but also the rhythmic breathing. Your own sound of your 268 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: own breath through the snorkel is really calming in a 269 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: way that you know, rhythmic breathing for lap swimming isn't okay. 270 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: So I think we need to move on to some 271 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: messages in response to our series on whales and Rob, 272 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: You've got to read this first one from Evan because 273 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: I think you are the Star Wars Extended Universe guy 274 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: between us, and this one definitely concerns the outskirts of 275 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: the cannon. Okay, all right, Evan Wright. Then it says, Hi, 276 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Rob and Joe love the show. Me and my wife 277 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: have been listening for a long time. Keep up the 278 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: amazing work related to the idea of whale barnacle armor. 279 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: I was wondering if anyone else mentioned that Darth Bain, 280 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: who lived about a thousand years before the films, at 281 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: one point chose to allow himself to be covered with orbelisks, 282 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: an insect or crustacean like creature. Joe, are you familiar 283 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: with Darth Bain? Not at all? I assumed you would be. Well, 284 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: it's not a story the Jedi would tell you anyway, 285 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: Heaven continues. Their tough shells provided him with lightsaber and 286 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: blaster proof armor, allowing him to take a purely offensive 287 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: fighting style, as well as pain and a chemical that 288 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: boosted his connection to the dark side, and they mentioned 289 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: his terrifying appearance. It was not without downsides. They shortened 290 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: his life and nearly killed him. While he needed the 291 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: insects remove, he also needed to wear special armor to 292 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: keep them from spreading and covering his face, hands, etc. 293 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Looking like a monster also limited his ability to appear 294 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: in public and maintain his budding empire. The details can 295 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: be found in the Great Bain Trilogy books by Drew Carpettien, 296 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: which are wonderfully read with exceptional voice acting and sound 297 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: effects in the official audio books as well. Me and 298 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: my wife listen to it on Libby We are a 299 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Libby household as well. Great way to get your digital 300 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: and audio library books. You could ask about it at 301 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: your local library, as your card number will be needed. 302 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: I attached a few images for fun. Okay, one's an 303 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: illustration and one is a costume at a con or something. 304 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: The illustration we got like a major evil looking bald 305 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: boy who has got some kind of pyramid floating in 306 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: his hand and a red lightsaber. And yes he does 307 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: appear to be encrusted with some kind of gunk, almost 308 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: almost barnacle like in fact. Yeah, this is an interesting 309 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: approach to buio armor, which of course brings to mind 310 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: something from Children of Doone. I don't want to spoil 311 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: anything for anyone out there who hasn't gone that far 312 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: in the Dune series. But as for Darth Baine himself, 313 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't read any of these books, but 314 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: I have run across people saying they're good before, so yeah, 315 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: at some point I might need to check them out. 316 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: I haven't really explored that much from this time period 317 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: of Star Wars lore. Well, thank you, Evan. Okay, we 318 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: got a message from colmb Colms says, hey guys, just 319 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: a quick one liner. Check out this story below good 320 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: timing with the gray whale episodes, and so I put 321 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: together some notes here from Colm's length. This is an 322 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: article in The Guardian by Phoebe weston headline extraordinary sighting 323 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: of Orca with baby pilot whale Astound's scientists. Now, yeah, 324 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: a lot of what we discussed in that series was 325 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: about orca's being the main natural pred ors of gray whales, 326 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: and so there would be this migratory journey where the 327 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: gray whale mothers and their calves would be going back 328 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: up north along the western coast of North America, with 329 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: the newborn calves having to be escorted by the mothers 330 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: because the new worn calves are vulnerable to predation by orcas. 331 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: But in this case it's orca parenting behavior. So an 332 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: adult orca appeared to be sort of guiding and protecting 333 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: this little whale from a different species, a pilot whale. 334 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: And this happened near Snifflesness, a peninsula on the western 335 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: side of Iceland, where I have actually been, and that's 336 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: a really cool place, awesome landscape. I don't know if 337 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: it's normally like this, but when I was there, the 338 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: wind quite literally almost knocked me off my feet. It 339 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: was the windiest place I've ever been. But anyway, so 340 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I found that the citation of the scientific paper documenting 341 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: this observation in the orcas, This was by Marie Teresa 342 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: Marucha at All published in the Canadian Journal of Zoology, 343 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: called first account of apparent aloparental care of a long 344 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: finned pilot whale calf by a female killer whale, and 345 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: this was just this year twenty twenty three. To read 346 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: from Phoebe Weston's article in The Guardian, quote, the ship's 347 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: crew initially thought it was a very small killer whale 348 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: calf swimming alongside the orca, but photos later confirmed what 349 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: Muchoks suspected that the female, called Sidis, appeared to be 350 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: looking after a newborn long finned pilot whale and then 351 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: a different quote from the article, Although this is the 352 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: first time this behavior called interspecific alo parenting, has been 353 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: observed in orcas, it has been seen in other cetacean species. 354 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Short beaked common dolphins, common bottle noses, Indian Ocean humpbacks 355 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: and Indo Pacific humpbacks have all been observed looking after 356 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: the young of other species. Well, that is very interesting 357 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: also definitely a different side to see after thinking about 358 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: the predatory capacity of the Orcas almost exclusively for several 359 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: episodes there. It's very interesting and not to anthropomorphize too much, 360 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: but I will say heartwarming. Yeah, I think if nothing else, 361 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: it does just remind us that orcas are complex creatures, 362 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: intelligent creatures with a lot going on, and that we 363 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't be too quick to dismiss them as one thing 364 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: or another. Oh but hey, one more quick response to 365 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: the series we did on whales. We got a message 366 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: from Mike. Mike's message was featured in a previous Listener 367 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: Maile episode. This was the one about Mike had had 368 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: an experience where he was out surfing and he found 369 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: himself directly in the path of it was a baleen whale. 370 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: I think it was a humpback I'm sorry if I 371 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: remember that. Yes, yeah, a humpback whale trying to feed, 372 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: doing like lunge feeding on schools of something maybe small 373 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: fish near the surface, and Mike ended up having a 374 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: profoundly stirring encounter with one of the whale's eyes as 375 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: it sort of gently pushed him out of the way. 376 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: So Mike got in contact to say thanks for reading 377 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: his whale story, and then he added something else just 378 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: to summarize. He said his work involves some connection to 379 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: generative AI, so he made some images. He attached, first 380 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: of all, an image based on a description of his 381 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: encounter with the Humpbacks, and of that image, Mike says, 382 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: it fails to capture the burning intellect of the whale, 383 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: but accurately captures the chaos and surreal surreality of the experience. 384 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: And it shows a kind of strange, sort of glyph 385 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: faced human underneath a whale that's breaching the surface, as 386 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: there are fish all throughout the sky, sort of exploding 387 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: from the water's surface. There. Yeah, these were neat to 388 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: scroll through. But then the second thing is so that 389 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: was his encounter. He also had He also generated a 390 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: bunch of images for movie posters for a film concept 391 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: that is not a real movie. It's one mic dreamed 392 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: up and that concept is scanner whales. That's that's very good. 393 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: M M. Yeah, there might be something too that The 394 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: scanner whale poster is of a very seventies look. I 395 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: really like them. And one of them shows what appears 396 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: to be like a whale with a sort of X 397 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: ray image where you're looking at I guess it's skeleton, 398 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: but it's not a whale skeleton. It looks like sort 399 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: of a combination of a whale skeleton with like a 400 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: deflated basketball, or maybe like a card that's been in 401 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: a in an accident and it's all crunched up. It's 402 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: it's very interesting. M Yeah, I could imagine this sort 403 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: of thing fitting into that. That that that sort of 404 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: weird period of dolphin and whale based cinema, you know, 405 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: which also kind of has its carkins back to the 406 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: successive Jaws. Are we talking Day of the Dolphin or 407 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: are we talking talking about free Willie? Not so much 408 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: free Willie, thinking more about Day of the Dolphin. Also 409 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: certainly thinking about the nineteen seventy seven film Orca, which 410 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: which we were talking about a little bit when we 411 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: were recording these episodes. Not a movie I recommend anyone watch, 412 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: but I'm a movie that I remember watching part of 413 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: I Think on A and E as a kid, and 414 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: it has some very disturbing scenes in it, started of 415 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: course Richard Harris. Anyway, Mike says, thanks absolutely, love stuff 416 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: to blow your mind. In weird House, looking forward to more, 417 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: all right, speaking a weird House let's go ahead and 418 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: do one last listener mail. This will be a weird 419 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: house related directly from Levi Levi Ride. Hello guys. A 420 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: recent backpacking trip to the Red River Gorge had me 421 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: binging all my podcasts, but I was gleefully surprised to 422 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: listen to your latest Weird House Cinema episode, which is 423 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: quickly becoming my favorite podcast. Growing up, my dad was 424 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: our media curator, and as a result, we watched all 425 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: the great classic sci fi movies, campy westerns, The Twilight Zone, etc. 426 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: Somewhere in the mix was this story that absolutely enthralled 427 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: me as a child, about a man who starts shrinking 428 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: and goes on incredible adventures in his inning. In his 429 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: inbiginning home, I had vivid memories of a tiny man 430 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: fighting off a basement creature with a needle spear, but 431 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I always assumed this was an episode of The Twilight Zone. 432 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: Over the years, whenever I thought about it, I would 433 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: pull out my box set of the show and try 434 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: to find that lost episode, to no avail. Just last week, 435 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: a video from the YouTube channel Corridor Crew pulled a 436 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: scene from a movie to react to, and lo and behold, 437 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: it was the incredible shrinking man. I was instantly nostalgic 438 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: and so relieved to find the source of those black 439 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: and white memories. So you can likely imagine the sheer 440 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: delight when I discovered that you Fellas had given this 441 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: movie the weird House deep dive treatment only days after. 442 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I was reminded of how much inspired me as a boy. 443 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Also to Joe's comment about wanting to see water portrayed 444 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: as dangerous at miniature scale, another bit of childhood sci 445 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: fi nostalgia finds me recalling a book in the Danny 446 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Dunn series, Danny Dunn and the Smollifying Machine, in which 447 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: there is a lot of talk about being careful not 448 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: to lean against water droplets for fear of breaking the 449 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: surface tension, falling in and becoming trapped. Wonderful job is 450 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: always wonderful movie. Thanks so much for all your hard work, guys. 451 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Leavin Oh, thanks Leavitt. That's exactly what I was talking about. 452 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: How I feel like I got to go back and 453 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: read this book. I've never even heard of it. Yeah, 454 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: just look at what a series of young reader books 455 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: from I'm just judging by the title the cover page, 456 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: I'm thinking seventies or eighties looks like it. There's a 457 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: bunch of I mean, there's a picture of a kid's face. 458 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: He looks a little like alfredy Newman. I don't think 459 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: he's supposed to. And then there is there's like a 460 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: giant grasshopper, and I don't know kids playing all around it. Well, 461 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: I've looked it up. Now. There are fifteen books in 462 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: the Danny Dunn series, and Danny Dunn and the Smollifying 463 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Machine is actually from nineteen sixty nine, though that cover 464 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: I was looking at, of course, certainly could be from 465 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: subsequent decades. But yeah, this is the whole series. I 466 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: don't know anything about amazing. All right, Well, we're gonna 467 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: go and close things out here, but we'd love to 468 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: hear from everyone out there if you have thoughts on oh, baths, 469 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: swimming whales, smollifying machines, and shrinking movies. If you have 470 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: comments or feedback on past episodes, current episodes, future episodes 471 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: of stuff to blow your mind of the artifact, the 472 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Monster fact or of course, episodes of Weird House Cinema 473 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: right in, we would love to hear from you. Well, 474 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure we mentioned this in our two most recent 475 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Weird House episodes, but definitely right in about your favorite 476 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: shrink movies. What shrink movies are we missing out on? Yeah, 477 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean there are plenty of great ones. It just 478 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: depends on how small do you want to go. I 479 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: don't know if they're all over top the Simpsons, Treeouse, 480 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: Horror with Lisa and the Tooth, but there's a lot 481 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: of room to explore. Okay, so oh huge, Thanks as 482 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: always to our audio producer J J. Pauseway. 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