1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: This is all most famous Beyond the Bachelor with Susie Evans. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back to be on The Bachelor. This 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: is your host, Susie Evans. Today I'm going to be 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: chatting with Lolo. She performed on Nick File's season of 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: The Bachelor. They were in New Orleans downtown. It was 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: on Rachel Lindsay's one on one. So we're really excited 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: to jump right in and ask her all the details. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, how's it going good? How are you good? 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for hopping on and joining us. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So you performed your song Shine on Nick Kael's 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: The Bachelor. What was that experience like for you and 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: how did it feel to share your music in a 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: very different way than what you're probably used to. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: Well, it was it was an interesting experience all the 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: way around because the process of what led to me 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: even being on the episode, it snowballed really quickly on 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: tour at the time, and we were up in the 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: in the northwest, the West Coast, which was far from 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: New Orleans, which is where we filmed. And I have 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: been an avid Bachelor watcher forever. Me and my mom, 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: it's like been our thing. All the years that I 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: lived away from her, it was our thing, where like 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: we would watch it each week and talk to each 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: other about it and that kind of thing. 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: So, and I had just put. 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: Out a record at the time, which Seane was on, 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and I had had my management. 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: I'd said I would love to be. 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Able to take my mom to one of those finale 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: tapings one day, and like, can you basically just send 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: my album and spend a note saying, hey, we have 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: this client who loves The Bachelor and connect show their 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: mom whatever. 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: And so a couple of days go by and. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: They called and said, we loved this album and we 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: want to fly her next week to film for nick 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: viol season. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: That's literally what happened, no way. 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: So I just genuinely, as a fan of the series, 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: wanted to. 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: Take my mom to Opinality. 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: And it snowballed very quickly into this thing. And when 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: my manager called me, we were in Seattle and he was. 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: Like, are you sitting down? And I was like, I'm 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 3: not sitting down. Should I be sitting down? Like you 47 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: might want to sit down? 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I was like okay, and he was like, they want 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: you to fly to New Orleans and film for The 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Bachelor next week, and I was like, so and so 51 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: that was what happened. We flew to New Orleans from 52 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: the Northwest and in the middle of tour, which was crazy, 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: and it was an awesome. 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: Experience because everybody. 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes in Bachelor World, the production team and 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: everybody like they everybody was so incredibly nice. And I've 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: got to imagine, I've never been the contestant, but even 58 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: just observing what we observed over the course of that 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: day filming, things can change so quickly. You know, you're 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: obviously dealing with real people in real circumstances, real time, 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: real emotions, real feelings. At the drop of the hat, 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: somebody can completely change their minds. Somebody can you know, 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: go through something emotional, you know, whatever is. And so, 64 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: as a person who's always watched the show, I loved 65 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: being able to see a glimpse behind the scenes in 66 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: that way, and everybody production wized was so incredibly nice, 67 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: and it was really lovely to be able to share 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: this song that I've written, which is just genuinely about 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: finding your own inspiration, being okay with being who you are, 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: and being willing and comfortable to share that with the world. 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: It was a wonderful opportunity to be able to share a. 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Message like that through songs in that kind of a space. 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: So okay, that makes me think I love that you 75 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: were a fan beforehand. I'm like, oh, my wheels are 76 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: turning now. And so I'm like, Okay, it sounds like 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: what you saw, because I I don't know if you 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: still watch it, but I was on the show a 79 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: few years ago, and the number one question people ask 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: me is is it real? 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: Like is it scripted? 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Did they tell you what to say? And so you 83 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: being a fan getting to see behind the scenes and 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: then hearing your perception of it is so it's actually 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: really cool to hear that you felt like it was very. 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: I think it's real. 87 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: It really is real people in real emotions. So I'm 88 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: guessing I was. My one of my questions was going 89 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: to be do you feel like you believe more in 90 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: reality TV now or less versus after what you see? 91 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: What you saw, I guess, yeah, it sounds like you. 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: Believe in it or it just seemed real to you. 93 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: You know. 94 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: I think the thing about reality TV is that whether 95 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, something like The Bachelor or something like 96 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: a TV show where you're literally watching people's lives, like 97 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: keeping up with the Kardashian. 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: Whatever it is. 99 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: In from the viewer's perspective, I think what can get 100 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: hard is that I think, especially like one of the 101 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: things I feel as a consumer of the Bachelor franchise, 102 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: you hear a lot from especially girls who just go 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: through difficult things that then air at long after the 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: fact and they've been edited and all that kind of stuff, 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and they have to compress hours and hours and hours 106 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: of footage and content into one hour each week. Like 107 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: that's a challenge in and of itself, and so of 108 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: course all of these little moments I think that can 109 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: or would help the viewer understand the realness of it 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot more. That gets edited out a lot of 111 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: the time because they have to make choices of Okay, 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: well we can only keep this amount for this episode 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: because we've got to get from this plot line to 114 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: this plot line. 115 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Whatever that is. And so all of those like the blooper. 116 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Moment it happens yeah at the women tell all or 117 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: the men tell or. 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: Whatever that is. They those kinds of moments. I think if. 119 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: That was included more often throughout the whole each each season. 120 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: I think I would in theory help the consumer, yeah, 121 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: just to. 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: Kind of be like, okay, yeah this, these are here 123 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: of these real moments. But again, it's like it's hard 124 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: for production I think probably to have to make those 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: decisions otherwise it would turn into. 126 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: A totally different show. Probably. 127 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: I am with you completely on that and obviously on 128 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: this podcast, so often we're like singing the praise of 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: the show because we're like it, you know, it did 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: this for my career. It was the most fun experience, 131 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: or my wife was a fan, or like people say 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: that most cool things and. 133 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: It's such a positive thing. 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: But this is one thing where I'm like, Bachelor producers, 135 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: if you're listening, like take this. This is a consumer 136 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: of the show who was on the show witness thing 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: and like has really good feedback. Because that's always been 138 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: one of my things too where I'm like, I feel 139 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: like there's sometimes an agenda and I totally get it. 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: It's a produced show, so there has to be storylines, 141 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: there have to be things that move the storylines along, 142 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: and so things get cut. But it was so wild 143 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: watching back the season I was on and being like 144 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: wait a second, Like there's so many personalities amongst the 145 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: women that were just not highlighted, but they were such 146 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: a big part of my experience in the house, and 147 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: it gives you like empathy for them because when I 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: was seeing things happen in real time and then you 149 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: knew the whole context context, and you have like, you know, 150 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: empathy for that person. And then as a viewer, you 151 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: see a villain and you're like, oh, they're the worst 152 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: person in the world. But really, you know, everyone's a 153 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: bit of a villain, you know, like everyone's got like 154 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: has their moments of weakness or whatever. That's really interesting 155 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: that I think if the producers ever listen to this, 156 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: then that's a really good tidbit of just like, you know, 157 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: let more stuff stay in, like the real real stuff. 158 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder, you know, I also just wonder. 159 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what your experience for anyone who's 160 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: got to really put themselves out there to be on 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: the show, what the experience is like, just even from 162 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: what I observed in my short time filming, the. 163 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: Feeling like for me, I knew exactly what they were going. 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: To show, because you know, we knew, we knew what 165 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: we were playing, We knew going into it that they 166 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: were going to use three songs total. They were going 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: to use a performance of my song Shine, and then 168 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: you know, because that was you know, we had to. 169 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: Agree upon all these things beforehand. Also, there's like music 170 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: licenses and clearances and all these kinds of things that 171 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: have to go into place, so there can't be any 172 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: surprises there. So we knew. 173 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: This was the song they were going to use for 174 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: the majority of the time that we were going to film, 175 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: that we were also going to do one other song 176 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: for extra pickup things that they needed, and then one 177 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: other selection to be played in backgrounds moments throughout the episode. 178 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: We knew that going in. So because I had parameters, 179 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: I knew exactly what to expect. I didn't maybe know 180 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: exactly what the camera angle was going to be, but 181 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: I knew, you know, what was going to go on. 182 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: Versus being. 183 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: On the show for you know, the length of time 184 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: that you all are there and you are not in 185 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: the editing room you are and also there's all these 186 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes moments where people are having 187 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: their sort of confessional things, all of these moments where 188 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: you are really. 189 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: Not involved in a good and also not in control 190 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: of what others are doing. 191 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: You're there having to exist as peacefully. 192 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: As you can with all a similar objective. 193 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: It's got to be a pretty surreal experience in that way, 194 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: knowing you can't control you know, your aspects of being 195 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: on the show. 196 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a wild ride. 197 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:19,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 198 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 199 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: And to your point of how things can change so quickly, 200 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: did you feel like when you were there, did you 201 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: think the chemistry between Nick and Rachel, like, did you 202 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: think she was going to go all the way? Or 203 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: and also did you get to see other women, Like 204 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: did you see him interact with any other women or 205 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: was it just the two of them on that date? 206 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: I just saw the two of them on that date, 207 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: and it was really funny because. 208 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: I remember thinking. 209 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: That the main the main because also the like I 210 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: there was a period of time where because we have 211 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: brought in you know, earlier in the day, even before 212 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: they were there, we had to set up all of 213 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: our gear, we had to sound check, we had to 214 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: do you know, various things before anybody else showed up. 215 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: And then they started bringing in all of the extra 216 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: sort of bar patron kind of people that they were 217 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: bringing in for filming. 218 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then when they when. 219 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: Nick arrived independently first, and he was there with us 220 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: for a little while, and then Rachel arrived, And what 221 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I remember thinking about their interaction was that they seemed 222 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: very comfortable with each other. They didn't seem like you 223 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: know how sometimes you can see new people who are 224 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: newer in a relationship and their. 225 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: Energy still feels like they're still trying to figure out 226 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: what their dynamic is. All they like each other, but 227 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: they're still trying to figure out. 228 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, they were not They weren't all over each other, 229 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: but they were two people that, you know, you could 230 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: tell they really just very much clicked. 231 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know whether I was struck with the 232 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: fact that I thought she was gonna go all the 233 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: way or not. 234 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do remember somehow she had I don't 235 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: know honestly because it's been a while. 236 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: But. 237 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: She had somehow found out from the producers who was 238 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: going to be playing. 239 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: She know it was gonna be me, basically. 240 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: And so she had found my album and she had 241 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: been listening to it, and there were a couple other 242 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: songs on the album, and so when I had talked 243 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: with her, she was like talking to me about my music, 244 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: and for a good chunk of time after the episodes air, 245 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: especially after Day aired on TV and everything, and you know, 246 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: she would reach out to me. 247 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: From time to time being like, I'm listening to this song. 248 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: It's making me so happy, you know, Like she had 249 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: a we had. 250 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: A genuine interaction about my own music, which I was 251 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: really surprised by. That was one of those things that 252 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: I was It was very flattering and very very cool 253 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: of her to go out of her way to like 254 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: do her research in that sense. 255 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: She was like, I wanted to know. 256 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: She was like, I didn't want to just be I 257 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to be caught off guard. 258 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: I wanted to know. 259 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: What I was going to be listening to, because I 260 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: guess that they had she had found out or they 261 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: told them that live music was going to be some 262 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: kind of part of the date, and so she was like, well, 263 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: who's coming. 264 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: I want to know. 265 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: I want to know what the music is. And so 266 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: they had cheered it with her, and I thought that 267 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: was really cool. 268 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: That's really Nick was Nick. 269 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: I remember Nick and my guitarist Josh having a really 270 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: funny conversation where. 271 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: Josh is. 272 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: He's just he's hilariously funny anyway, and He loves to 273 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 1: just make light of every situation, and I think especially 274 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: like in a. 275 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: Situation where you're just now getting to know. 276 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Literally meeting someone in an environment where like, Okay, here 277 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: we are with all these cameras on us, and now 278 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna play. 279 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: There's a song, and wish you the best on your relationship. 280 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: You know. 281 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: It's kind of a really funny dynamic of how to 282 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: meet somebody. 283 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: And so he was like, you know, asking him a 284 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: typical question of like, do you ever get tired. 285 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: Of all those girls throwing themselves at you? That's funny. 286 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't really remember what nixed response was, but I 287 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: remember Josh asking him that question and Nick kind of 288 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: like looking at him, like, I can't really answer this 289 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: right now. 290 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: That is so funny. 291 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: I feel like those are two really good, like behind 292 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: the scenes examples of I mean, I've always known Nick 293 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: to be quite funny and like like cheeky and charming 294 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: and just like has that kind of like lightness about him. 295 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know Rachel that well. I don't know 296 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: either of them that well, but I don't know Rachel 297 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: as well, but I've met her and I've heard things 298 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: about her, and I feel like what you just describe 299 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: sounds a lot like who she is, you know what 300 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: I mean, like really cares and like takes a particular 301 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: interest and wants to do her due diligence, and obviously 302 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: with her career has been so successful and so amazing. 303 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: So it's like it's just it feels very on brand 304 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: for her to have like cared enough to want to 305 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: listen beforehand, and then even like following up and like 306 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: making you know, texting you at a later time and 307 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: being like, oh, I'm listening to this song. Like that 308 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: just feels so genuine and sweet. 309 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: I love that it was. It was it was very genuine. 310 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I spent a day with her filming, 311 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: but you know it was interesting especially once everything aired 312 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: and we saw what the what the rollout of events 313 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: were in that season, and then all also just watching 314 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Rachel's trajectory from kind of jump point start and then 315 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: everything she's you know, been through since. 316 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: She's I think she's I remember. 317 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Thinking, even in that day I spent with her, she 318 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: seemed like a very grounded person. She seemed very just 319 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: that you know, she just seems to know what her 320 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: purpose is and she that's what she follows, and. 321 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: Wow, that's very cool. 322 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: So after the show aired and your music was shared, 323 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if it would be shared with a 324 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: different audience or maybe like a I don't know if 325 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: The Bachelor shared it with a larger audience. Did you 326 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: have any kind of like pivotal things that came from 327 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: or came into your career after being on the show, 328 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: Like did it jumpstart anything or did it open you 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: up to a broader demographic of people? 330 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it definitely brought several opportunities, a 331 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: couple of really interesting touring opportunities and other like feature opportunities, 332 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: and then also interesting just kind of seeing the difference 333 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: in the demographic because at that point I was like, 334 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, really playing to like an alt rock crowd, 335 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: which is not that people who listen to alt rock 336 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: do not listen, do not watch The Bachelor. I think 337 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: that there are lots more people that watch The Bachelor 338 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: that cross pollinate in too many different types of music. 339 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: But I was really surprised with. 340 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: The the out the level of the outreach in general, 341 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 5: So like for the whole next ten days after The Bachelor, 342 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 5: something as what seems maybe very insignificant to others that would. 343 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: Be very significant to artists, especially as you're kind of 344 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: just putting a new record out and those kinds of things. 345 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: It's like on iTunes, when you would pull up iTunes 346 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: if you were searching something like my name. 347 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: Lolo was like at the top of the daily searches 348 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 3: for ten whole days, and like that's. 349 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Really that's a big moment where you get to see 350 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: the immediate turnaround of just the power of the outreach 351 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: and the I mean maybe in some ways also like 352 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: the power of how a show can be put together 353 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: so that a song, like if they're choosing to feature 354 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: a live artist, it's like myself or anyone else they 355 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: feature on the show, they capture it and they also 356 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: place it within the course of the episode in a 357 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: way where it leaves a really big impact on people 358 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: enough so that then you want to turn around and immediately. 359 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: Like search for the thing that you've heard. 360 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: And that is really powerful, you know, because I think 361 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: especially now in the way that artists in general are 362 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: trying to figure out way always try to figure out 363 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: new ways to reach their audience, and you know, social 364 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: media has given us obviously huge ability to reach so 365 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: many more people than we ever could in the past. 366 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: But there's something about. 367 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, millions of people watching you on TV at 368 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: the same time that you know it leaves an enormous impact. 369 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: And it was exciting to be able. 370 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: To see how my song being featured in a special 371 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: moment in that show not only could reach so many people, 372 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: but then there were other waves in which that song 373 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: was able to receive attention and be featured in other 374 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: spaces in other movies, TV opportunities like synk licensing, all 375 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: the touring, all the things that happened. 376 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: I was. I ended up being on Rachel Ray as 377 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: a part of that and doing. 378 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: A bunch of stuff with her down at south By 379 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Southwest on the back end of all of that, which 380 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: was really really cool, and it happened like very organically 381 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: out of the ship, out of the song being featured 382 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: on the show, and then of course you know of 383 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: action that happened after that, and then also the for 384 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: that season they continued to use Shine and two of 385 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: my other songs like throughout the rest of the scene 386 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: in as soundscapes and thong scapes, and so I was 387 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: and I think I'm assuming because the music was well received, 388 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: but that's that's the best case scenario, you know what 389 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: I mean. Obviously, I'm the kind of person where I 390 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: go into everything I do and I hope for the best. 391 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't assume it's all going to be a giant nightmare. 392 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: I assume, Okay, we're gonna do everything we can do 393 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: and make it everything we can make it. But you 394 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: never really know what's going to happen. So to see 395 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: the response that we got and then to have the 396 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: ripple effects that happened, it was really awesome. 397 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so awesome. 398 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, before we wrap up, I want to ask 399 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 6: when you have on the horizon currently where can you 400 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 6: find you What are some cool projects you are working 401 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 6: on or planning. 402 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: In the near future. 403 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: So the thing I'm always working on is raising my toddler. 404 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 3: At a three year old boy, and he is awesome. 405 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: And so in amongst everything I do, I have my 406 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: silly little boy that goes with me and does everything 407 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: with me, and that's been wonderful. 408 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: That's cool. 409 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: And so this year particularly has been a big year 410 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: of creating things so that next year this is the 411 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: like input year, so that next year can be the 412 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: output year kind of thing. So, and I'm working on 413 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: a couple of different things that are a little like 414 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: all each in their own little corner. But I'm making 415 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: a new album. I'm in the process of writing and 416 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: recording all of that, and I'm hoping to be done. 417 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: With all of the recording by October. 418 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: And I am working on an independent musical film. 419 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 3: It's a it's also a Western. 420 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: It's basically like Oklahoma the Musical meets Killed Bill. 421 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: Sounds awesome. 422 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: It's a really incredible script and everything it's being created, 423 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: including the music and getting the cast together, all those 424 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: kinds of things so that next year we can go 425 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: film the project next summer. And that project is called 426 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: My Father's Daughter, And it's been really it's been a 427 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: really interesting project to work on because you follow this 428 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: girl who it's set in old Western time. You follow 429 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: this girl who she loses her family due to you know, 430 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: like a gang kind of trying to take over her 431 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: family's farm, and then you follow her as she basically 432 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: seeks revenge for her family. But the the way that 433 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: the story is written, you stay so in her corner 434 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: and you so want to see her succeed. But the 435 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: way that the story weaves and there's all these surprises 436 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: that happen, and it's been really it's been a really 437 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: interesting and totally different like of all the songwriting I've 438 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: ever done or any kind of projects I've ever worked on. 439 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: It's been something completely different than I've ever done in 440 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: the past. And so. 441 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: The story itself and the project itself is really fun 442 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: to work on. 443 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: But it's been really fun to do something that's just 444 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: completely different than anything I've tried in the past. And 445 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: then I'm also developing a little kids show, so it'll 446 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: be like a song and storytime kind of thing that 447 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm working on with one of my longtime friends and collaborators. 448 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: And so that's the thing that we're developing. And again 449 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: that's been a brand new situation because it's going to 450 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: be an animated project. So I've never worked on something 451 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: where we like work with an animator. That's been a 452 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: really wild process, totally new. But all three things that 453 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: have been amazing to work on this year, and and 454 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: we'll all start to see the light of day starting 455 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: kind of at the beginning of next year. But I'm 456 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna have a couple of little singles that'll be coming 457 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: out in the fall. 458 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 3: Its music videos and some other stuff like that. 459 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: So everything for me can be found at lolo music 460 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: dot com and then if you follow me on socials, 461 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: it's all at Lolo Music amazing. 462 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for having me. 463 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it was a pleasure getting to get the scoop. 464 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: I feel like I learned more about that season the 465 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: Bachelor and I love that. Thank you guys for listening 466 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: to be on the Bachelor. We'll see you next time.