1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: I started to realize that not being an expert isn't 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: a liability. It's a real guest. If we don't know 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: something about ourselves at this point in our life, it's 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: probably because it's uncomfortable to know. If you can die 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: before you die, then you can really live. There's a 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: wisdom at death's door. I thought I was insane. Yeah, 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: and I didn't know what to do because there was 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: no internet. I don't know, man, I'm like, I feel 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: like everything is hard. Hey, y'all, my name is Kat. 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm a human first and a licensed therapist second. And 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: right now I'm inviting you into conversations that I hope 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: encourage you to become more curious and less judgmental about yourself, others, 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: and the world around you. Welcome to You Need Therapy. 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of You 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Need Therapy podcast. My name is Kat. I am the host. 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: And for those of you that are new one, thank 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: you for being here. Well, thank you everybody, but also 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: for those of you who are new, I have a 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: little disclaimer. Although I'm a therapist, although this podcast is 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: called You Need Therapy, it does not serve as a 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: replacement or a substitute for any actual mental health services. However, 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: we always hope that it can still help you in 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: some way. So I'm recording this on a Friday, and 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: it is the fifth snow day. For anyone who doesn't 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: know where I live, I live in Nashville, and it 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: doesn't snow here often. It doesn't snow like this often, 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: and so everything kind of shuts down, and I personally 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: don't know how to exist and do basic tasks when 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: the weather is like this and when we can't drive. 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: We're just not set up to be able to handle 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: this stuff because I guess it only happens every once 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: in a while, but still I don't know how a 33 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: lot of things work in the world. But I would 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: think that, like we would want to be prepared in 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: these moments because they do happen, not multiple times a year, 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: but it happened last year, it happened this year. So anyway, 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: that's just my long winded way of saying I've been 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: stuck in my house for five days. Luckily I'm not alone. 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: I am with my fiance Patrick. But I've realized I 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: think it was on Wednesday I realized I had not 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: like felt the sun on my face, so I started 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: taking some vitamin D and then Thursday I tried to Yesterday, 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I tried to actually go to work because I just 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: wanted to be in the presence of people. I wanted 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: to be in the world, and I actually got stuck 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: at a stop sign. My car wouldn't go It was 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: like a very baby, baby baby slope and it wouldn't 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: go forward, and I kind of panicked because I don't 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: understand cars. I'm not a very good driver, and I 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: have a lot of driving anxiety. And this very kind 51 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: person pulled up that was behind me. Her car seemed 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: to be running just and she kind of helped coach 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: me through what to do to get out of the 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: stuck spot I was in. So I'm very grateful to her. 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: I think she probably noticed that I was on edge. 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: It's anxiety provoking it in general to have car trouble, 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: and I felt a lot of pressure because people kept 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: pulling up behind me and probably being like go. There 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: also was a lot of people driving yesterday, and maybe 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: they just are more comfortable driving in weather like that, 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: and I mean, like the roads were covered with snow 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: and that's not something we are used to, and that 63 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: I grew up knowing how to navigate. I also don't 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: have four wheel drive, even though I do have a jeep. 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: People are very surprised by that, but not all jeeps 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: are four wheel drive or all world drive, which I 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: also learned are different things. Anyway, a lot of people 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: were driving very very close to me, and I was 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: driving about five miles per hour, which is probably why 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: they're driving that close. I personally would not want to 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: drive that close to somebody in an environment where they 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: could lose control at any moment. I guess people in 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: general don't have the same feelings I have about driving 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: in the snow. All that to say, I made it 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: to a gas station. I was able to put some 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: air in my tire because those were low, and then 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: I turned right around and went home. Had to cancel 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: some of my clients because of the time that all 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: took me, but I made it back, very grateful for that, 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: very grateful for the person who helped me, and not 81 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: grateful to be stuck here again because I woke up 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: to more snow and a little bit of melting that 83 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: then now is turning into freezing because it is about 84 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: twenty degrees outside and going to continue to drop. I 85 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: wonder if this is very frustrating and annoying for people 86 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: to hear, for people to hear about, or maybe just 87 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: funny that live in more treacherous areas that this is 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: like no big deal to them. I know Houston who 89 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: edits this podcast and produces it. The lake behind him 90 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: was frozen and they get like feet of snow. I 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: think we got about six inches. I don't know if 92 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: you find this funny or silly. I'd be interested to know, 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: because it's a big deal to me. Hopefully we're able 94 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: to walk somewhere today and maybe get some food or meat. Friends. 95 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready to do that, all right. So to the 96 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: podcast content, I thought this week I could offer you 97 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: guys a more lighthearted and fun episode. Part of that, 98 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: full disclosure, is because there are a couple of topics 99 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm really working on, and those episodes are going to 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: take a little bit more brain power and energy. I 101 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: really want to take my time on them. So there 102 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: are some deeper not that this won't end up being deep. 103 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: You never know where it can go. There are some 104 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: other episodes that I'm working on that I have in 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: the system, and so as I'm doing those it's really nice, 106 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: and I think it can also for me be very invigorating. 107 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: I think to do some episodes that are just about 108 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: things I'm interested in, like last week's things that I'm 109 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: just thinking about myself, and things that sometimes can just 110 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: be fun. So now there's anything wrong with it, but 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: bring levity to some topics that sometimes get really deep. 112 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's fun to think about more simple things and 113 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: also bring some fun into it, because that's part of 114 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: this process, and that's part of the reason I created 115 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: this podcast is that so we can all see that 116 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: doing work and working on ourselves and all this stuff 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: that therapy encompasses also gets to be fun and can 118 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: be lighthearted at times. And we need that in order 119 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: to continue to do the work. And I need that 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: to continue to do the work that I'm doing. Things 121 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: can't always feel heavy all the time, because that's not 122 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: how we're wired to find the most value and enjoyment 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: out of our lives. So that's what we're going to 124 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: do today. So lately, and when I say lately, it's 125 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: like a couple of years, it's been a couple of years, 126 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: but it's still happening. I've been becoming more aware and 127 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: more intrigued of the process of getting older, and that 128 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: includes also getting old and feeling old. Those can be 129 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: different and the same, and I think that part of 130 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: that probably comes from the idea that as time goes by, 131 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm solely becoming closer to the great equalizer that is death. 132 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: And that just makes sense, right, as long as we 133 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: are growing, we are also at the same time dying. 134 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: As I age, I'm realizing so do the people that 135 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: are older than me, and the idea that those people 136 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: are going to be frozen in time and here forever 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: becomes I think, just more prevalent, and then the idea 138 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: that I won't be here forever. You know, I think 139 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: we've all probably felt that feeling of indestructibleness as we 140 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: were kids, and as we would look forward into our 141 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: lives like the future and everything felt in front of us. 142 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: And now as I'm getting older and I'm experiencing life, 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things are behind me, and so is 144 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: bringing some awareness of the cycle of life. And also 145 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: part of me doesn't want to say this out loud, 146 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: but part of that process of me noticing myself getting 147 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: older and then me noticing the people older than me 148 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: getting older, part of the reason that that strikes me 149 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: is so I don't know, it's scary but big of 150 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: a deal. Why it's such a big deal is because 151 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: I see my parents aging and I just become more 152 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: aware of the fact that they are not always going 153 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: to be here, and also they aren't always going to 154 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: be in the same role that they've been my whole life. 155 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of weird, I kind of I don't know. 156 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: My parents have like felt forty five my entire life, 157 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: and now they're not. They're in their sixties. And again, 158 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: I don't really want to say this because I don't 159 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: really know that I want them to know that I 160 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: think about that because it's just sounds so depressing. Again, 161 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: it's reality, and I don't think it's an uncommon thought 162 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: that cycles through a lot of our brains and kind 163 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: of freaks us out at times. So, like I said, 164 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: this has been happening for a couple of years, I 165 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: think more recently the past three ish years. I'm thirty four, 166 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: so maybe around like after like the newness and the 167 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: funness of thirty war off also that a lot of 168 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: this has happened throughout the pandemic, and I think that 169 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it too, But I've 170 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: just become more acutely aware that I am what I 171 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: used to consider older, maybe not necessarily old, but older, 172 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: and it is such a weird experience. I haven't figured 173 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: out the right word to use. I'm at the age 174 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: where I could have a full fledged family and it 175 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: not be an accident, and if I got pregnant, it 176 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a scandal like that is. That's an interesting 177 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: realization to come into. And what's also odd is knowing 178 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: you are the age of an adult and I could 179 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: have those things, but I'm also not there yet. I 180 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,359 Speaker 1: don't know if that's unique to millennials. I am millennials, 181 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: so I feel it is because I I imagine that 182 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: our parents' generation, or my parents' generation, didn't feel this, 183 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: maybe because they got married so young. My mom got married, 184 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: I think at twenty or twenty one, and then had 185 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: kids a year or so after she got married. I 186 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: think that's correct. But they just felt like adults very 187 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: early on, and that's maybe what my imaginations played in. 188 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: But I felt like it's been a very slow process 189 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: where I still feel like I'm getting there, even though 190 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm at the age and an adult and I had 191 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: all these assumptions about what adulthood would be and the 192 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: confidence that came with knowing, or even just the confidence 193 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: that came from being an adult, that then I would 194 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: know how to do certain things like pay taxes or 195 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: find a dentist or buy certain kinds of insurance. And 196 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, that never really showed up for me. 197 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: I'm still very confused about a lot of those things 198 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: that I thought would just like be implanted. I guess, 199 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought I would wake up at 200 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven, be married, have a couple kids, and know 201 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: how to shop for insurance. And I'm kind of curious, 202 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: as were my parents faking it? Or does my generation 203 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: did they miss some class we were all supposed to 204 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: do about insurance, or like, maybe it's just me and 205 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of insurance, I've had this issue. That's 206 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: why it might be all my brain. I had this 207 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: issue where I mean, I have to buy my own 208 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: insurance and I used to get it on the marketplace 209 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: and then I found it through another company. But I 210 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: have had it for myself because I'm self employed, so 211 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: I don't have like a business or a company that 212 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: offers me certain packages and that I pick I have 213 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: my own and I recently went to a new dentist, 214 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: thought everything's fine. Long story short, I find out that 215 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: I have pediatric dental insurance, and I'm like, how did 216 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: this happen? Does this happen to other people? And it's 217 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: a mistake. I know that it happens to other people, 218 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: but it's one of those things of like, dang, I 219 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: thought I was doing the adult thing, and I thought 220 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: that I would have this knowledge. All goes into what 221 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: I was just saying, and then it's like, no, you 222 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: bought dental insurance for somebody nineteen and younger. I don't 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: understand how they let you do that. The people that 224 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: I talked on the customer service line said, I don't know. 225 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: It just seems to happen. Sometimes. I'm like, there should 226 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: be like a block, there should be some kind of 227 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: thing that makes that not possible. But today's episode is 228 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: not about dental insurance. And one of the things that 229 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I think first contributed to my oldness or my feeling 230 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: of oldness, was realizing that millennials, which is my generation again, 231 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: that we were no longer the problem child. We were 232 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: no longer the generation that people would complain about and 233 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, millennials never want to work and so many things. 234 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: And I've noticed that people were complaining about other generations 235 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: and we are no longer. Sometimes we're the generation that's 236 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: actually complaining about other generations. And that was I think 237 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: a big wake up call. I think that probably started 238 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: happening and during the pandemic at some point when gen 239 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Z kind of had and started to have more of 240 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: an impression on us, mostly through the rise of I 241 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: think TikTok. And as that happened, what also happened is 242 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: Instagram became to gen Z, which used to be cool, right. 243 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Instagram used to be cool what Facebook now is to millennials. Right, 244 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: So our parents' generation is using Facebook. We used to 245 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: do that, then they kind of took it over, and 246 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: then we had Instagram, and then gen Z started TikTok 247 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: and then like we're I don't know how to use 248 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: TikTok like that as like this old joke running joke. 249 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: And I think that was also a wake up call, like, oh, 250 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: we aren't even like in the know of like the 251 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: cool social media. And I've talked about this writer journalist 252 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: named Anne Helen Peterson. I've used a lot of her 253 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: writing on other episodes because I find what she has 254 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: to say so interesting, and she does a lot of 255 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: really great culture content and recently came out with a 256 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: new podcast that I'm excited to get into. But I 257 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: found it article as I was doing some internet research 258 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: about the process of getting older and if it was 259 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: just me, and I found this article she wrote about 260 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: millennials getting older, which I was like, this is literally 261 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: perfect and it really spoke to me on so many levels. 262 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to link the whole article in case anybody 263 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: wants to read the whole thing, because she talks about 264 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: a lot more than what I'm going to talk about. 265 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: But this part at first really really captured what I 266 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: think I've been trying to save for the past five minutes. 267 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: And in her article she writes, this part at first 268 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: really really captured what I think I've been trying to 269 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: save for the past five minutes. And in her article 270 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: she writes, something interesting happens when you realize your generation 271 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: isn't this center of the discourse anymore. I'm not even 272 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: talking about being the locus of cool. More like you 273 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: just seem to matter less. People are less anxious about you, 274 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: less mad about you. If anything, they seem slightly annoyed 275 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: by you. You're no longer the future, You're the well 276 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: worn middle. And I feel like for me, since the 277 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: war on skinny jeans kind of commenced a couple of 278 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: years ago, I have been forced to realize I am 279 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: now of the same age of people that I used 280 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: to look at and say things like they dress really 281 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: cute for their age, you know, like looking at your 282 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: teachers or maybe your friend's moms and being like, oh, wow, 283 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: they dress really cool for being a mom or something 284 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: like that. I'm at that age, and as that has 285 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: been happening behind the scenes. Somewhere along that process, I 286 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: don't think I realized when exactly this happened, but I 287 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: also started caring more about the comfort and sensibility of 288 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: a shoe versus the style of what it was, and 289 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: that really has been a wake up call to me. 290 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Me and my sister used to, and we still do, 291 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: joke about wearing a sensible shoe because it's something that 292 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: our grandparents would say. And I now choose shoes because 293 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: of their comfort level and refuse to wear shoes that 294 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: hurt my feet at least for long periods of time, 295 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: it's not worth it. And I'm just having this wake 296 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: up call to a level of adulthood that I thought 297 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: would always be in my future versus my actual reality, 298 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: my present. And I guess also what I'm saying I 299 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: talked about this on Instagram last week is I know 300 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: that I have suffered from some sort of or form 301 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: of forever young delusional syndrome until I found myself in 302 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: my closet getting rid of these nonsensible shoes and digging 303 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: through a closet of skinny jeans and realizing that the 304 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: clothes that I have are not the clothes that the 305 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: kids are wearing these days. Is for lack of a 306 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: better way to say that. And I don't know if 307 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: that started when I was watching an episode of Call 308 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: Her Daddy, which some of those episodes are really good. 309 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I used to not like that podcast. Some of those 310 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: episodes have been really fun and interesting to watch and 311 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: listen to. But I was watching one day this episode 312 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: where Morgan Stewart, who is like a pop culture you know, 313 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: host of sorts, She was telling the host Alex Cooper 314 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: about you know what's in what's out? And she said, 315 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: ankle boots that have a heel are unacceptable. And I 316 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: don't know about the people listening, but half of the 317 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: shoes in my closet were ankle booties that I wore 318 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: with my skinny jeans, and there was that slight, you know, 319 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: you could have that little space of skin between where 320 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: your your skinny jeans stopped and where your ankle booties started. 321 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: And recently I've heard, oh, you know, when you wear 322 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: your tennis shoes, you supposed to wear high socks, and 323 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't. I mean, I thought we 324 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: were sports sports, no show socks. So all of that 325 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: has just been really not that it's the biggest deal 326 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: in the world for me. I think also with all 327 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: of this, it comes to adult part of me saying, 328 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: you know, I don't really care if I have socks 329 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: that are comfortable and I like and they don't show 330 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: the skin when I'm wearing my tennis shoes aill wear, 331 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to go out of my way 332 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: to continue to buy the right socks with my outfits, 333 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: especially for that part of my outfits. And I'm going 334 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: to keep my skinny jeans. I might buy some other 335 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: jeans because you know, I really have enjoyed this trend 336 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: of the baggier jeans very comfortable, but I don't know 337 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: that I care to throw my skinny jeans away because 338 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: I like them and they have been the highwaysed skinny 339 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: jeans have been good friends of mine for years. And 340 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: so I became very curious about all of this as 341 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, And like I said, I 342 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: posted some of this on Instagram last week and I asked, 343 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: what the kind of realities of your own adulthood surprised you? 344 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: What did you think you were going to kind of 345 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: be immune to until you woke up in the middle 346 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: of it and at me some really good answers. I 347 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: want to read some of them and maybe talk about them. 348 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: A lot of them were the same. A lot of 349 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: you guys said the same things, and I think that 350 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: is very interesting. And a lot of you were very 351 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: very confused about the ankle booty thing as well. And 352 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: so I think part of that is we're going to 353 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: unite and continue to wear the shoes that we enjoy 354 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: versus the shoes that somebody is telling us we should 355 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: wear or not. And I do think that part of 356 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: that comes from being an adult, from being older and 357 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: realizing that we aren't the epitome of cool, and that's 358 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: not our goal anymore. And it kind of feels nice 359 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: to be here. Some of the things that you guys 360 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: sent in. I'm like, yeah, me too, and also I 361 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: like it here. So let's get into some of those 362 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: things what they were. So somebody said, as a kid, 363 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: I was confused why my parents didn't know how old 364 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: they were. I'm twenty seven, and I get it now, 365 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: which that's funny because I felt that when I was 366 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: turning I'm thirty four. When I was turning thirty three, 367 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, am I turning thirty three? Or 368 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: am I thirty three? And as our birthdays start to 369 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: kind of matter less and we might not want to 370 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: pay attention to the number as much. Yeah, I totally 371 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: get that, And that used to be I used to 372 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: be so confused by that as well. Somebody else said, 373 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I save lunch meat, cheese and cool whip containers, which 374 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: you must have really nice lunch meat and cheese containers 375 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: mine coming and bags, but the cool oup containers. I 376 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: made a dish this Christmas or sometime last year that 377 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: had a lot of cool wip in it, and you 378 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: know that was my grandmother saved the cool containers would 379 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: save actually save ziploc bags. And it's funny because you 380 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: would get something out of the freezer and it would 381 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: have a date on it and like the name of something, 382 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't mean what was in there. It's because 383 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: these are now reusable containers. I've been saving the Chinese 384 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: takeout containers. You know, they don't come in just those 385 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, paper boxes anymore. You're getting these reusable containers, 386 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: and I'm all for that. It saves us a buck 387 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: or two. At Walmart. Another person said, I've become passionate 388 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: about vacuums functionality, and I talk about it with other people. 389 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: I get that a lot of people talked about vacuums. 390 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: A lot of people said that vacuums are really important 391 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: to them these days, and you know, I agree. Having 392 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: heated discussions about which grocery store is the best with friends, 393 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I get that too. You know, there's a debate my 394 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: fiance and I used to have about Publics and Trader Joe's. 395 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: And while Trader Joe's doesn't have as many items and 396 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: all the things that Publics has, it is a more 397 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: exciting store, I find, and I still miss doing my 398 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: normal grocery store shopping there because I did lose that battle, 399 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: mainly because publics is closer to us. A lot of 400 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: you guys said, but this is just a quote from 401 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: one person. How much I love going to bed early 402 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: and feeling thankful for feeling rested the next day. That 403 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: was a big deal for a lot of you. Is 404 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: the awakening of enjoying going to bed early and enjoying 405 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: waking up early and having the whole day instead of 406 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: sleeping in. This was interesting, and I get this too. 407 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: Professional sports play peak at a age that is younger 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: than me. And somebody else said when I realized celebrities 409 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: are younger than me, and that has been wild, especially 410 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: as we and as I've noticed that, like the people 411 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: that were cool when I was younger, like justin Timberlake, 412 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: or I mean like Britney Spears or all of these 413 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: like bands, Paramour, Green Day, all these bands that were 414 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: like the bands growing up and the people to go 415 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: see like Pink, Avril Levine. A lot of them are 416 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: still making music and still working, but they're not like 417 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: the cool thing anymore. And I think it was in sync. 418 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Bactray Boys, one of those boy 419 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: bands did like you No, it was in sync because 420 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: they recently did this reunion on an awards show of 421 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: some sort and it was the biggest deal ever. And 422 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, remember when this used to just be like 423 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: the act and Justin Timberlake isn't the coolest guy on 424 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: the block anymore. I wonder if he feels that or 425 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: if anyway that it was actually really interesting? Is that 426 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: like the And it's an experience that you know, we've 427 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: heard our parents talk about of, you know, in my 428 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: day or I used to listen to them when I 429 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: was young, and it's like they aren't cool anymore. Mom. 430 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: That's been very odd to experience. Also, when like the 431 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: people that you're listening to now you're like, oh, that 432 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: person's twenty one. I'm a fan of theirs. That feels 433 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: so strange. Okay. Another person said increasing the font size 434 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: on my phone, and oh my gosh, I haven't done 435 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: that yet, but it's one of those things that I've 436 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: been known to make fun of my mom for and 437 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: I am not going to love the day when that 438 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: gets thrown back in my face. Somebody said, becoming my 439 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: father and noticing prince and grime on every door and 440 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: light switch, and oh, my gosh, that's not exactly what 441 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: I've noticed, but in the sense of just caring about 442 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: things that you used to not care about in that way, 443 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: like caring about settling up certain areas of the house 444 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: or organizing certain things, or stuff that just wasn't important 445 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: to you is now actually very important to you. Another 446 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: person said chin hairs, which is so funny to me 447 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: waking up and noticing that, like, oh, I get like 448 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: a random hair in spots that I used to look 449 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: at other people and being like, why do you have 450 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: that hair there? Very very interesting. A couple of you 451 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: guys said stuff about needing to prioritize stretching. Yeah, I 452 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: mean the what sixty seconds of stretching I used to 453 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: do as a kid before and after if that soccer practice, 454 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I don't need a stretch. 455 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't stretch. Stretches that important. And now these days 456 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm like going to bed using a heating pad on 457 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: my back on and off because probably of all those 458 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: years I did not stretch properly. Now my muscles are 459 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: just so fatigued and out of whack, and you know, 460 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: my hip fuels out of alignment. And all of that 461 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: stuff is actually catching out to me. Refusing to go 462 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: to concerts too late and this. Yes, I will say 463 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: I've always been kind of an early bird, but I've 464 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: said that multiple time. Why does this show have to 465 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: start so late? Why did it start at nine pm? 466 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: Can we start at seven? And right before the pandemic hit, 467 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: I had tickets to a Chelsea Cutler concert and I 468 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: went to my friend's house before and I asked her 469 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: when she started, because I think there might have been 470 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: an opener or something like that, and she looked at 471 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: me and she was either eight or nine o'clock. I 472 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: want to say it was a nine. And I just said, 473 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to go. I'm not going 474 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: to that concert. And I just bailed right before we're 475 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: going to leave. Turns out, literally the world shut down 476 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: like two days later. That was the last concert I 477 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: would have gone to in years. I don't though that 478 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: I regretted that though, because I really liked going home 479 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: and being able to just go to bed. Somebody else 480 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: said going to work and coming home just to say 481 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: my feet hurt, and I agree that goes with kind 482 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: of the stretching stuff and the sensible shoes. How frustrating 483 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: it is to forget to get me out of the 484 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: freezer for dinner. This is oh my gosh. Yes, yeah, 485 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: you would think like, why is it such a big deal, 486 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: But this has become a constant story in my life. 487 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: And the last one I'm going to share that somebody 488 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: sent in was when they reorganize Target or the grocery store. 489 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: It pisces me off more than I realize. Oh my god. Yes, 490 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: especially the seasonal the Target with the seasonal stuff, or 491 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: when you go to a different Target or a different 492 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: grocery store and it's not your neighborhood one. It's the 493 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: same one, same public, same target, but it's organized different, 494 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, I can't shop here, this isn't mine. 495 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: Like that has become a very big deal for me. Yeah, 496 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: you like your systems. Okay, So back to this article 497 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier that again I will put in the 498 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: show notes in case you guys want to read it. 499 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: The whole thing's very interesting and I thought very thought provoking, 500 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: but I did want to share just one part, in particular, 501 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: more so the conclusion with you before I end this 502 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: episode myself and give my final thoughts and for context, 503 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: much of this article, and much of the meat of it, 504 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: is about why, and particularly millennials are surprised by feeling 505 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: old and how we maybe are set up a bit differently, 506 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: and certain milestones that feel like they are a pillar 507 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: of adulthood and kind of the entry ticket into what 508 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: we perceived as being an adult were just kind of 509 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: harder for us or different for us. Examples of that 510 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: are buying a house and finding financial security and gaining 511 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: financial security. So I want to read this little part 512 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: and then I'm going to kind of try to sum 513 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: up my thoughts on all of this. So here is 514 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 1: her writing. Some of these millennials have become callous narcissists. 515 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Alienation does wild things to people, but in many cases, 516 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: particularly further down the wealth chart, I think the turn inward, 517 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: the blinkered concern for me and mine, is guided less 518 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: by malice and more by exhaustion. The situation reminds me 519 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: of a conversation I had a few years ago with 520 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: a policy expert in early childhood education. In short, people 521 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: don't realize how bad it is until they find themselves 522 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: in the thick of it, and for a few years 523 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: they're furious, but amidst that fury. They're also just barely 524 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: treading water, trying to balance the costs and sick days 525 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: and after care and jobs and other kids. By the 526 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: time their kids are out of care, they've depleted their 527 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: rage and their desire to do the sort of ongoing 528 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: work that would make things different and better for parents 529 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: to come. That's where I fear millennials have found themselves. 530 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: We became clear eyed about all the way society is 531 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: set up to fail. So many of us came to 532 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: understand racism as systemic instead of just interpersonal, rejected or 533 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: refined the politics of our parents. But now we feel 534 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: too exhausted, too old to fix things, which is why 535 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: I cringe at the end quotes gen Z will Save 536 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: Us narrative. Its main purpose is not to praise gen Z, 537 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: but to excuse other generations from the hard work of 538 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: saving ourselves and each other. There's nothing wrong with feeling older. 539 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: I like it here, and I know a lot of 540 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: you do too. But as our generation ages, we have 541 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: to be vigilant about the ways in which fatigue and 542 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: fear can blot out even the brightest hopes for a different, 543 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: more equitable world. Because even if you do find a 544 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: modicum of security, it's still not going to feel like enough. 545 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: You'll want more, and that won't feel like enough either. 546 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: When you're this condition to procarity, no personal safety net 547 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: is ever robust enough to actually make you feel safe. 548 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: You need something more robust, something that's built for and 549 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: supported by well everyone. The boomer father of an ex 550 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: boyfriend used to tell me, yeah, you're liberal. Now just 551 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: wait till you get older. Have some kids, own a house, 552 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: pay property taxes, live in the real world, and you'll 553 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: see what happens. You've probably heard some version of that too, 554 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: and yes, that was the way for a whole lot 555 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: of our parents and grandparents, but it missed all of 556 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: these novel, hilarious and introspective moments of feeling old. I 557 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: keep reminding myself, it doesn't have to be ours, and 558 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: this is me talking. I kind of started this episode 559 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: wanting to just laugh over the funny things that surprised 560 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: us about being an adult and how delusional I was 561 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: about thinking that that would never be me, even though 562 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: that is just a natural and normal progression of life. 563 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: And what I'm learning about being an adult is that 564 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: as much as it sucks to have to pay for 565 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: your own groceries. I always laugh when I think about 566 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: this growth in me where like in college, which I'm 567 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: pretty sure this is the majority of people. Where in 568 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: college I would buy the generic shampoo and body wash 569 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: and literally would take toilet paper from the public bathroom 570 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: and my sorority house downstairs instead of going to buy 571 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: my own toilet paper because there was always an endless 572 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: supply down there. I would do that. But then when 573 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: my mom would come in town and my dad would 574 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: come in town, I would just like, you know, go rogue. 575 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: When they would take me to Costco and buy the 576 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: nicest of all the things, I would like scrounge. I 577 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: would literally like fill up my shampoo bottle with water 578 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: to make it last longer, and then like to you know, 579 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: wait until they got there, and then I would splurge 580 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: on this thing that would never buy myself. And even 581 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: though now I have to buy my own toilet trees 582 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 1: and it's so annoying because who wants to spend their 583 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: money on that, at the same time, sometimes I just 584 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: love going and buying like a luxurious bottle of body wash. 585 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: There's something that I like about that. When I was younger, 586 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: I was like body wash, I don't want that. I 587 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: want something cool. I want to spend my money on 588 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: something cooler. So even though I'm kind of getting off 589 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: subject here, but as I've grown, my feelings have changed 590 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: about spending money on certain things. And you know, not 591 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: all my money is fun money, and the things that 592 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: are fun to me have changed. Even though that all 593 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: has happened, and it's some that I would have looked 594 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: back on and hoped would have never happened, as I 595 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: have settled into it, it comes with this more settling 596 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: sensation of enjoyment. I like she said in that article, 597 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: I like it here. I like not having to do 598 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: so much in areas that I truly don't care about anymore. 599 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: That pressure is off, and maybe the pressure has moved 600 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: to different spaces, but I really enjoy being able to 601 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: spend my money on a nice bottle of shampoo versus 602 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: the newest, coolest whatever it is. Maybe it's concert tickets 603 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: of a concert that starts at ten pm, you know, like, 604 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm not upset about the shifts that I have taken. 605 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm uncool and I'm okay with it. Or maybe I'm cool. 606 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to know. It's cool these days. 607 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: And also it's not as it's not important if I 608 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: am or not, and I could be called lame, and 609 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: sometimes that might feel like a compliment because what your 610 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: version of lame is is my version of luxury, you know. 611 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: And I've even seen a change in like the types 612 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: of workouts I do and the resistance I felt lately 613 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: about buying these cute workout clothes or expensive workout stuff 614 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: like I used to. I used to love that stuff, 615 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: you know. A matching set to wear to the cycling 616 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: studio was like the best day ever. One of my 617 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: main motivations for running was a new running outfit like 618 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: that was so important to me, And now I'm I've 619 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: even had a conversation with this with the trainer that 620 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: I work with. I said, I've just got to realize 621 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: that I'm only going to wear black leggings, so I 622 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: got to stop buying the colored leggings. I don't like them. 623 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't care if they're super cute, They're not what 624 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: I want to wear. And I've I've got to just 625 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: stick with the black leggings, even if it doesn't match 626 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: the top that I have. And again, I don't care. 627 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed going to a new gym that also doesn't 628 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 1: care about what you're wearing. It's not the place to 629 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: be seen, which is where I used to find myself 630 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: working out. I went to the coolest places. I would 631 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: go on vacations, and one of my favorite things to 632 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: do is to check out their coolest new boutique fitness studio. 633 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: Now I'm like, I'll just go on a walk, like 634 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't really care to get that picture at that gym, 635 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: and I like it here. I'll walk with my hand 636 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: weights that to some people might be embarrassing. I'm like, 637 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: that sounds pretty cool. And it doesn't mean that buying 638 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: those outfits or caring about those gems or doing any 639 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: of that stuff that I don't. I'm realizing that I'm 640 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: doing less of is bad. It's just noticing that it's different. 641 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: And I actually like the difference. And I used to 642 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: assume that I wouldn't. I assume that it must feel 643 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: bad to not have cool clothes or to have an outdating, 644 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: outdated haircut, but actually for me, it feels very calm, 645 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: and I guess I really needed to acknowledge that I 646 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: don't know that's something that you guys are resonating with 647 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: but I really needed to acknowledge that to really continue 648 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: to allow myself to live in it. That like, no, no, 649 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: you like this, versus this story in my head that 650 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't like this. But it's like, wait, no, you 651 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: do like this, so you can keep doing that. You 652 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: don't have to do this anymore. You really don't like 653 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: it that much. And part of that was because maybe 654 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to feel old. But now that I'm 655 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: sitting here having this conversation with you guys, and I've 656 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: been thinking about it, is like, feeling old is not 657 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: that bad. And I'm thirty four, so I know that 658 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: that might sound annoying to you guys. Maybe I should 659 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: use this phrase like feeling older isn't that bad. This 660 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: is a subjective conversation, and some of you guys might say, 661 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: like I don't like that terminology, like I feel young 662 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: and sure when I use the term old, I'm not 663 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: talking about like I feel decrepit and I feel like 664 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm about to fall over. It's just like I feel 665 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: not young. I feel like an adult that should know 666 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: how to buy insurance. So really, this is again one 667 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: of those episodes, just like last week, where there's not 668 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: this tangible takeaway, or there's this action item for you, 669 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: which sometimes can be hard for me to leave you with, 670 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: and it can be hard for me to end to 671 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: episodes without one. But I think what I'm realizing, as 672 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying this all out loud and I'm hearing it 673 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: back from myself, is that there's a couple of things. One, 674 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: it's nice to be here, and I want to continue 675 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: to take on that attitude as maybe getting older continues 676 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: to scare me for certain reasons, or I just don't 677 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: want to be I have this idea in my head 678 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: that I don't want to turn into my parents, when like, 679 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: actually it might be nice to turn into them. I 680 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: want to keep this mindset of I don't know what 681 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be like to be there, and so 682 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: having an attitude of resistance might not be the most 683 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: helpful attitude, because then I might miss out on a 684 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: lot of experiences that feel really good to me. And 685 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: the other part I really think is important to note 686 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: is this essence of offering grace and compassion and understanding 687 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: to generations above and below. And we've been where the 688 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: gen zs are, where we've looked at millennials and they're 689 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: looking at us saying like, oh my gosh, that's so 690 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: millennial of you, the millennial tuck with the shirt. I'm like, okay, 691 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm still doing that. It's comfortable to me. And they 692 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: can be like, oh my god, it's so millennial, you 693 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I've looked at the generation above 694 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: me being like, oh my gosh, that's so not in anymore. 695 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: And so I can have a little fun with that 696 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be so serious, and I 697 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: can be okay with them thinking that I have an 698 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: outdated wardrobe. And again I'm using wardrobe continuously. It's just 699 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: an easy thing to talk about insert anything that shifted 700 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: in like some of those examples that I gave, And 701 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: so with that also grace, compassion and understanding for the 702 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: generation above us, where maybe they know something that we 703 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: don't know yet, maybe that there is wisdom that comes 704 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: with age and we should take that into account. Sometimes 705 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: there's some stubbornness, and I think that's what in the 706 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: end of that article is talking about. It doesn't we 707 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: don't have to stay in that stubbornness of I'm older 708 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: and this is how it is, and this is how 709 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be, and that's not what the wisdom is. 710 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: The wisdom is, Oh, maybe they have some information that 711 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: we don't have, and rather than rejecting all of it 712 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: because it feels older and outdated, maybe we should look 713 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: at it and use it to our advantage. Like, what 714 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: can we do with this attitude that they have in order? 715 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: Maybe there's an attitude we don't want to have, and 716 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: so let's look at how they got there. And I 717 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: don't know if any of that makes sense, but it 718 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Yeah, interesting stuff. So if any 719 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: of you guys have any thoughts on this, stories, funny, serious, 720 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: all of the above, you can send them to me 721 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Katherine at You Need Therapy podcast dot com. You can 722 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: follow me Catherine dot defada and at you Need Therapy Podcast. 723 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: And thanks for being here and listening to my ramblings. 724 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: I am working on an episode, hopefully that one will 725 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: come out next week that is focused on some more 726 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: of our more traditional content, some stuff around diet culture, 727 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: and just some trends that I've been seeing lately, so 728 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: that interest you. Make sure to stay tuned for that, 729 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: And until then, I hope you have the day you 730 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: need to have. Bye, guys,