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Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Jennifer Ashton. Dr Aston is

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Speaker 1: news Chief Medical Correspondent. Dr Jennifer Aston has been a

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Speaker 1: released saw the latest book, The New Normal, A Road

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Speaker 1: Back to Resilience in the Pandemic Era. It must read

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. Dr Jennifer Aston. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, sir? Thank you for that very kind intro,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so glad to be able to talk with you. Well,

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Speaker 1: you have one, UM how to assess these things? Is

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Speaker 1: it really bad? Is it? You know? Emergency room level?

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Speaker 1: And you don't have to be a doctor to learn

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Speaker 1: to think like one, and that can help alleviate a

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Speaker 1: lot of the anxiety and the uncertainty, not only for

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Speaker 1: us but for our family. Yeah, you talk about you

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Speaker 1: have anxiety moment in the book. Well, you thought you

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Speaker 1: may have have COVID because your blood parsons changed. You

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Speaker 1: That's the whole process of what you're talking about in

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Speaker 1: the book to talk about that moment, because I think

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Speaker 1: we all because I would, let me tell you this

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Speaker 1: doctor asked them. I remember when when COVID, when we

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Speaker 1: was being quarantined, if I got a caugh, I really

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Speaker 1: was a high level paranoord about what was happening to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, because I didn't know. Nobody was

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Speaker 1: giving me information, so I didn't know. And I'm a

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Speaker 1: guy who knows my body, I really do. And I

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Speaker 1: love what you're talking about knowing your body. Exercise, talk

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Speaker 1: to yourself and walk through the whole process. Because that's

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Speaker 1: what this book breaks down. It's when you said thinking

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Speaker 1: like a doctor, and when you had that moment, I could,

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Speaker 1: I could. I was so sympathetic in your whole process

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that one you're dealing with it

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Speaker 1: all the time. You said Rahand in your book, acting

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Speaker 1: like you're talking to me. You said, made a breathing

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Speaker 1: ground for pandemics, cruise ships, prison, nursing, the holds in

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Speaker 1: the households. Here you are thinking you have COVID eighteen

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Speaker 1: workers through that process. So you know when I well,

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Speaker 1: First of all, my brother, who's also a doctor in

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Speaker 1: in March um. He got exposed taking care of patients

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Speaker 1: in the emergency room. And soon after that, I had

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Speaker 1: the book. It turned out to be an allergic reaction.

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Speaker 1: And I was just home with um my two children

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of pressure that's in the back

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Speaker 1: of my mind always, right, I mean, the only reason

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Speaker 1: most parents, I think would agree with this that I

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Speaker 1: really care about my health is because my kids. Right,

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Speaker 1: Because if I die, I'm dead, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: to leave my kids without a parent. So um. I

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Speaker 1: You should call nine one one. And I have never

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Speaker 1: called nine one one in my life, so right there,

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Speaker 1: it tells you kind of what level I was at.

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Speaker 1: And the paramedics came into my apartment and they checked

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Speaker 1: my blood pressure and I started to feel better. My

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Speaker 1: vital signs were normal, and they said I told him

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Speaker 1: I was a doctor, and they said, do you want

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Speaker 1: to go to the emergency room? And I said absolutely

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Speaker 1: not because New York City was on lockdown at this point.

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Speaker 1: I did not want to be exposed to COVID, and

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Speaker 1: I knew based on my vital signs that I was okay,

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Speaker 1: that it was likely just a reaction to some bene

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Speaker 1: drill that was probably buyer that I took. But the

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Speaker 1: point is that I explained in the book is that

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Speaker 1: I have that medical knowledge, but the average reader doesn't.

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Speaker 1: So when you get scared, or when you have a symptom,

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Speaker 1: how should you decide where to take it? And I

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Speaker 1: go through a lot of those Ashton is ms. Like

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Speaker 1: you know, really bad things don't get better on their own,

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Speaker 1: get worse. So if you're getting worse and not better,

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Speaker 1: you should get it checked out. If you would have

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Speaker 1: gone to the emergency room for this issue in then

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Speaker 1: you should probably go now because now hospitals are much safer,

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Speaker 1: you know, And if you're having chest pain or the

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Speaker 1: worst headache of your life, something that could literally kill you,

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Speaker 1: you should one call nine one one and get yourself

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Speaker 1: to an emergency. We talked about so I kind of

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Speaker 1: talk people through that. R right. Absolutely, you do do

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Speaker 1: a very fantastic job. I talked about the pros and

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Speaker 1: calm of telemedicine where you ought to your doctor. You

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Speaker 1: are double Board certified nutrition nutrition iss Where should we

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Speaker 1: not get this is my favorite chapter book. We're not

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Speaker 1: to get your medical news that so you know, I

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Speaker 1: was deep in the book, so you know, doctor Aston,

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Speaker 1: I was deep in the book when I got to

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Speaker 1: that part, and I just wanted to talk about that

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Speaker 1: before we leave. And I want to also thank you

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Speaker 1: for taking the time to be on the show to

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Speaker 1: bring my view was a very heartwarming book and also

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Speaker 1: informative book. But before you go afrom and talk about

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Speaker 1: where not to get well. Don't get it from your

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Speaker 1: next door neighbor unless they're a doctor. Don't get it

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Speaker 1: from your friend unless they're a doctor. Don't get it

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Speaker 1: from any um like non credential social media sites right um,

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Speaker 1: you know it should be CDC or someone with an

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Speaker 1: m D after their name that has the position like

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Speaker 1: I do. Where you know, millions and millions of people

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Speaker 1: are listening. So I have to make sure every single

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Speaker 1: word I say is accurate and correct to the best

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Speaker 1: of our knowledge based on scientific data. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable how many times I speak to real people

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Speaker 1: who say, well, I heard that dot dot dot and

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Speaker 1: I and I say, this is not a game of telephone.

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Speaker 1: You guys, like, what do you mean you heard it?

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Speaker 1: This isn't a gossip story, This is your health. So

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Speaker 1: I do go through that in the book. And you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: we learn every day we don't know everything in medicine

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Speaker 1: and science. And any doctor who says that they do

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Speaker 1: either hasn't been a doctor for very long or is

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Speaker 1: not one you should listen to. Well, you're a doctor

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Speaker 1: I listened to all the time. You know, I have

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Speaker 1: two doctors I love and pandemic as Dr Ashton's one

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Speaker 1: that Dr Fauci is the other. And thank you for

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Speaker 1: this new book, The New Normal. Uh. I have a

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Speaker 1: fan club of ninety thousand fans. I'm gonna put it

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Speaker 1: in the book. I have at one point six million

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to share your world, so with my

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Speaker 1: world and also the Sean thank you written and listen.

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Speaker 1: Please let's stay in touch. I I usually only use Instagram.

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Speaker 1: My handle is at d r j Ashton, and I'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear from your followers and your viewers. And

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Speaker 1: I don't look at Twitter or Facebook that much because

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Speaker 1: But um, I really appreciate you having me on. And

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