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Speaker 3: Welcome home, Everybody, This is our mini pod. You know,
Speaker 3: our boy Andrew is out. He is on a field
Speaker 3: trip with Jackson and Caroline, my niece and nephew, and
Speaker 3: in his absence, we still need to talk about something
Speaker 3: that I know Andrew's doing regularly on his solo pods,
Speaker 3: which is to talk about organizing. And while we're not
Speaker 3: hitting that directly, Tiff, I think that it's really important
Speaker 3: for us to examine, to stretch, to hold ourselves accountable
Speaker 3: in this moment around tools. We keep talking about so
Speaker 3: many people, not just we on this podcast, but folks
Speaker 3: on the ground, folks in the streets, folks at polls
Speaker 3: are saying that they're disappointed with democratic leadership.
Speaker 2: Where are the Democrats? Where is the fight?
Speaker 3: And then when we go to people we say well,
Speaker 3: where's your fight or what are you doing?
Speaker 2: We find some of those things are lacking. So I
Speaker 2: thought what.
Speaker 3: Was interesting is there is this letter and hopefully we
Speaker 3: can put it up for the guests who are viewing
Speaker 3: the podcast. But Congressman Jeffries who is the Democratic leader
Speaker 3: in the House, recently dropped a letter to Speaker Johnson,
Speaker 3: and he is challenging Speaker Johnson to a colloquy, which
Speaker 3: it would be on the House.
Speaker 2: Floor, and it's basically a budget debate.
Speaker 3: I don't at this point Speaker Johnson, Mike Johnson has
Speaker 3: not taken him up on that yet. But what I
Speaker 3: think is interesting is members on the House side tip
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you're hearing this, but a
Speaker 3: lot of members of Congress are saying Corey Booker's getting
Speaker 3: a lot of shine for a rule that works in
Speaker 3: his favor. On the Senate side, we can't fill a
Speaker 3: buster or debate for hours at a time, especially not
Speaker 3: for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: On the House side, we're not allowed to do that.
Speaker 3: So this is to me Hakim's way of saying, I'm
Speaker 3: going to challenge you in the way that I can
Speaker 3: with the tools that we that we have. Because our
Speaker 3: rules on the House side are different than they are
Speaker 3: on the Senate side. They different in the streets, they
Speaker 3: different in orcs, they different at home. So how do
Speaker 3: people meet the moment tiff with the rules that they
Speaker 3: have to play.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say because I might lose you in
Speaker 1: my a man corner, because I got some thoughts about this.
Speaker 1: So essentially, it sounds like Leader Jeffries is saying to
Speaker 1: the speaker, I'm challenging you to a verbal duel in
Speaker 1: which I'm pure basically, and he would whip Mike Johnson's
Speaker 1: ass all across that floor. You know, we remember Leader
Speaker 1: Jeffries that had a prominent role on during the impeachment hearings.
Speaker 1: He has he's gifted as an orcer. But I am
Speaker 1: going to say, because this is a moment where I
Speaker 1: think we have to go hard or go home, right,
Speaker 1: And so we talked about Senator Booker meeting the moment,
Speaker 1: and I said on that that day that we talked
Speaker 1: about that on that podcast, I talked about how.
Speaker 4: It made me feel hopeful.
Speaker 1: And then one of my former colleagues, Aimon moy Deen,
Speaker 1: who is like just an exceptional reporter. He still hosts
Speaker 1: the show on that shitty network that shall not be
Speaker 1: be named, but he does have an amazing show. They
Speaker 1: just shout out to Aimen because he is he's a
Speaker 1: g you know, like he really is. He doesn't quote
Speaker 1: rap lyrics every five minutes, but he loves hip hop
Speaker 1: and you know he's just a dope guy. So but
Speaker 1: this is these are the questions that came up after
Speaker 1: Senator Booker, and you know, god forbid we'd have actual
Speaker 1: journalists probing him. But Amon pointed out the questions that
Speaker 1: he thought the journalists in the room should have asked
Speaker 1: Senator Booker. One, why confirm another Trump nominee right after
Speaker 1: your speech?
Speaker 4: Two? Why miss your committee's anti trust hearing on big tech? Three?
Speaker 1: Why barely mentioned Gaza or my Mood Khalil will be
Speaker 1: tried in your home state? Why was he not mentioned?
Speaker 1: Mamu Khalil. Of course we talked about him. He is
Speaker 1: the Columbia student who was deported or detained by ice,
Speaker 1: kidnapped by ice. How do you justify voting with Trump,
Speaker 1: Republicans and establishment Democrats to send billions in weapons to
Speaker 1: Israel just days after your speech? I think these are
Speaker 1: all legitimate questions. So when we talk about a leader, Jeffries,
Speaker 1: I think we have to start thinking again, tapping into
Speaker 1: our imagination and not participating in this system, this established
Speaker 1: system that still again is responsible for the murder of
Speaker 1: hundreds of Palestinian children and children all across this globe,
Speaker 1: if we really want to be honest, because even though
Speaker 1: the pro Palestinian protests exclude what's happening in the Congo,
Speaker 1: exclude what's happening in Sudan and South Sudan, and there's
Speaker 1: there's and that's not a disc to the pro Palatinian
Speaker 1: pro Palaestinian protester.
Speaker 4: That is a challenge to all of us.
Speaker 1: So if in this moment we're saying, look, you know this,
Speaker 1: this entire system is about to break, then we have
Speaker 1: to hold everybody accountable and their role in it. If
Speaker 1: we're trying to have some truth and reconciliation, then there
Speaker 1: are some people on our side of the divide. I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I don't claim the Democrats, but I vote Democratic.
Speaker 1: There's some people on our side of the divide that
Speaker 1: we're going to have to start to challenge in question.
Speaker 1: So when I say meet the moment, I think for
Speaker 1: me personally, trying again, I'm trying to believe. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily know that this system can be saved. I don't
Speaker 1: know that it is worth saving. So a part of
Speaker 1: me feels like once it breaks, then there will be
Speaker 1: a moment to meet the only moment I'm trying to
Speaker 1: meet right now, which I think we share this, but
Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Is harm reduction for our people?
Speaker 3: I think that still means, which still means there's something
Speaker 3: about the construct because if you're if you're if the
Speaker 3: movement is harm reduction, that means that there's something about
Speaker 3: the system that you think is worth saving.
Speaker 2: For those who.
Speaker 3: Didn't hear our last pod, Tiff talked about being willing
Speaker 3: to lay her physical body down in front of the
Speaker 3: Blacksnian the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
Speaker 3: So there are things about this system that are worth
Speaker 3: preserving and we're fighting for for us, and we probably
Speaker 3: want them expanded. So I think we have to start
Speaker 3: even being more nuanced in our approach with that language. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: Like I want to keep affirmative action. I actually like
Speaker 3: the bill HR forty that Congressman Conyer started introducing in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty nine. I want to see that pass. I
Speaker 3: would like to see legislation make its way through the
Speaker 3: process and amended so that it is better for us.
Speaker 3: I would like to ensure that the Voting Rights Act
Speaker 3: that our fore bears fought for in nineteen.
Speaker 2: Sixty five is here.
Speaker 3: And has all of its pieces, not the gutted version
Speaker 3: from Shelby versus Holder in twenty thirteen. So I think
Speaker 3: that we have to And I'm saying this to you, Tip,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying it to myself too, because I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, let it all go.
Speaker 3: But I'm like that Greta letting it all go from
Speaker 3: two months ago, and I'm spiraling.
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm like, is that really our truth?
Speaker 3: Or is it that we're so frustrated with the most
Speaker 3: abusive parts of it?
Speaker 2: And is that what we want to let go? Or
Speaker 2: do we think we would be.
Speaker 3: Better served starting from scratch with veterans benefits, starting from scratch,
Speaker 3: with houselessness and housing affordability, starting from scratch with access
Speaker 3: to capital, starting from scratch with paying people a livabo wage.
Speaker 3: Is it better to start from scratch or is it
Speaker 3: better to build upon what we have, even if what
Speaker 3: we have is flawed?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know, Yeah, And I think that's that's
Speaker 1: more of a philosophical question, which I love and I
Speaker 1: want to try to answer that.
Speaker 4: I think it is better to start from scratch.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the board across the board,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I don't. I read more than
Speaker 1: I watch and so and a lot of reading it
Speaker 1: challenges my thoughts around democracy and around the political and
Speaker 1: economic system of capitalism. And so when I look at,
Speaker 1: you know, what is happening here in our country. You
Speaker 1: cannot have capitalism without racism. And so those two conjoined
Speaker 1: twins fund and fuel the system. So I don't know
Speaker 1: that you can fix that system without those things, and
Speaker 1: so I don't know that I want to be a
Speaker 1: part of preserving it. And when I say I read
Speaker 1: a lot, I'm not just reading like you know, brainy,
Speaker 1: heady books like I love fiction. I love to read fiction.
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite books. If you know me
Speaker 1: and you have read talked about reading books with me,
Speaker 1: then you know The Poison What Bible is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite books. And in that book I may have
Speaker 1: talked about it on the pod if I.
Speaker 4: Did, forgive me for being redundant.
Speaker 1: But in that book, it's about this white Christian family
Speaker 1: who goes to the Congo to teach the local savages
Speaker 1: and quotes how to live properly, and a part of
Speaker 1: that is about religion, and one of the chiefs there
Speaker 1: in the Congos is during the rain of Lamum, but
Speaker 1: one of the chiefs there is challenging this white pastor,
Speaker 1: saying nothing about your system makes sense to me.
Speaker 4: So you're telling me, in America.
Speaker 1: Y'all are okay with forty nine percent of the people
Speaker 1: being unhappy just because fifty one percent of the people
Speaker 1: voted for it, and that makes sense to you.
Speaker 4: You're also telling me.
Speaker 1: That this boy who is eighteen years old, who ain't
Speaker 1: lived none of the life I lived, you're telling me
Speaker 1: that his opinion counts just as much as mine a chief,
Speaker 1: And it really did kind of lift a veil off me, saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been so indoctrinated by how America does things that
Speaker 1: I think that's the only way. I read this book
Speaker 1: when I was like twenty years old, and it just
Speaker 1: opened my mind.
Speaker 4: That there are other ways.
Speaker 1: There are other systems, There are other rules of community
Speaker 1: that we functioned in before we were kidnapped and brought
Speaker 1: here and had the humanity beat out of us. We
Speaker 1: had a whole system that worked for us. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that this system is the thing to save,
Speaker 1: but that it doesn't mean that I'm gonna sit on
Speaker 1: my hands and watch it fall like I have no choice.
Speaker 1: I'm not a proponent of this system. I am the
Speaker 1: system's hostage, and so as long as that exists, we
Speaker 1: have to try to live within this four hundred year
Speaker 1: nightmare as best we can. So I don't feel good
Speaker 1: about sitting back and letting people starve. I don't feel
Speaker 1: good about sitting back while people don't have clean drinking water.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about sitting back while people are losing,
Speaker 1: like you said, with you know, the unhoused, or increase
Speaker 1: in crime or drug addiction, like all the things I'm
Speaker 1: seeing just in my neighborhood. I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: role to play. And I know it's a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on you, Angel, I really do. I know you
Speaker 1: don't complain and all of that, but I do feel
Speaker 1: like there are a lot of people looking to you
Speaker 1: right now to say, well, what do we do? And
Speaker 1: I think you have really met the moment, not by
Speaker 1: saying I have all the answers, but you know, let's
Speaker 1: at least try to figure something out. And I for
Speaker 1: all the people complaining and all, like, at least that
Speaker 1: is happening. At least you are saying, let's put one
Speaker 1: flit in front of the next and figure out something.
Speaker 1: And what has emerged from that are other leaders. You know,
Speaker 1: other people have said, well, angel this might not be
Speaker 1: your wheelhouse, but I can do this, this and this,
Speaker 1: you know for sure, you know, Angela, I know this
Speaker 1: is in your wheelhouse, but you have your hands full.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna lead this effort.
Speaker 1: And so those things are happening, and I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: proud and privileged to be a part of that and
Speaker 1: plug in where I can. But I definitely understand people
Speaker 1: in the dizzying array of like what the fuck like
Speaker 1: every day?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is, it is at WWTF every day,
Speaker 3: And I guess the thing that I'm wrestling with is
Speaker 3: trying to you know, listening to you and trying to
Speaker 3: hear my own intention and wondering like, is it my
Speaker 3: fear that makes me feel like treating America as a
Speaker 3: startup is not a good idea? Or is it the
Speaker 3: as in moment of like what doge is dozing?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Does that feel like that feels remarkably irresponsible? And then
Speaker 3: it's like the wild wild West out here? Yeah, but
Speaker 3: like there are there's progress that our forebears made that
Speaker 3: I don't want to get rid of there's you know,
Speaker 3: when I think about even when they when they brought
Speaker 3: up that cancer research funding could be hit given my
Speaker 3: mom's current situation or the number of people I'm talking
Speaker 3: to who just got a cancer diagnosis, I don't really
Speaker 3: want to start that over from scratch.
Speaker 2: Just from time, like just from a time standpoint.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that people are good right now,
Speaker 3: for you know, the folks who are in an IVF process,
Speaker 3: or who are are struggling with being able to breathe
Speaker 3: and are on oxygen, or they're in dialysis or have
Speaker 3: high blood pressure and they need medication and access to
Speaker 3: prescription drugs or access to some type of holistic treatment.
Speaker 3: Completely dismantling our healthcare system in the middle of a
Speaker 3: health crisis sounds like a horrible idea to me.
Speaker 2: I think that what I need.
Speaker 3: To try to pull apart is like, when we're talking
Speaker 3: about the system, are we talking about the fruits of
Speaker 3: the system too, or is that fruit of a poisonous tree?
Speaker 3: Or are we saying this just this foundation is the
Speaker 3: thing that I want to disrupt, But I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to get rid of the fruits that have been beneficial
Speaker 3: to our people. Even if they're not where they need
Speaker 3: to be. We know that they are decent, we know
Speaker 3: that they are good. Can we build on decent or
Speaker 3: we also saying, regardless of the crisis somebody may be in,
Speaker 3: if they need their snap benefits, if they need that
Speaker 3: veterans benefit because there's a mental health crisis happening, we
Speaker 3: still want to get rid of all that, like to
Speaker 3: the individual person, be damned. I don't know that I can.
Speaker 2: It feels I'm like, I feel like the anxiety going
Speaker 2: like this in my chest. From that, I think.
Speaker 4: Yes, I hear that.
Speaker 1: I think that is a worthy anxiety because that does
Speaker 1: leave a lot of questions.
Speaker 4: And what do we do?
Speaker 1: I think the scary part is we are getting rid
Speaker 1: of all that. Know like we are, we are not
Speaker 1: they are, but it is eroding, and so as it
Speaker 1: is eroding, how do we protect ourselves? And we at
Speaker 1: least need to tap into our imagination to figure out repair.
Speaker 1: You know, if this is eroding with next if we.
Speaker 3: If we frame this like we're not talking about dismantling
Speaker 3: all this, having nothing and then building from scratch. We're saying,
Speaker 3: as this falls apart over here, here are some other
Speaker 3: solutions that are better than what was over here anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3: So it's like a transference of an abusive system to
Speaker 3: one that's actually supportive. It is a transition plan, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a transitional structure on bridge.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this country. I truly believe that
Speaker 1: our idea of America no longer exists. I think we
Speaker 1: are a year from now, I think this country is
Speaker 1: going to look very different. Ten years from now, I
Speaker 1: think it will be unrecognizable. I think all empires fall
Speaker 1: and it's just our turn to fall. I don't see
Speaker 1: America surviving. I mean, the one thing that we have
Speaker 1: as a country is our military budget swallows everybody. If
Speaker 1: you combine everybody's military, our military budget swallows that. However,
Speaker 1: with technology, I don't know if that matters as much.
Speaker 1: With AI and drones and how weaponry has advanced. All
Speaker 1: it takes is for somebody else to have two or
Speaker 1: three weapons that can overpower or if they knock us
Speaker 1: off our grid.
Speaker 4: What does that look like? You know?
Speaker 1: If there's it is something to me, we seriously do,
Speaker 1: and it's something to me that we are at gen
Speaker 1: Z and then the next generation is a I'm kind
Speaker 1: of looking like maybe gen Z is it like maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe when by the time jen gets don't
Speaker 1: mean everybody is everybody's gonna die. But I'm saying, by
Speaker 1: the time jen A comes around, will that be a
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic society that has to build?
Speaker 4: And if so, what does that look like?
Speaker 1: And this gets into afro futurism, and you know, like what, really,
Speaker 1: how can we tap into our roots and our history
Speaker 1: to create a future that is more in alignment with
Speaker 1: our spirits and who we are as a people. We've
Speaker 1: been forced to participate in this system and I just
Speaker 1: don't know that it's worth saving. But I don't want
Speaker 1: people to misunderstand me and think we are not worth saving.
Speaker 1: Like I like, we had Roland Martin on the show
Speaker 1: this week and he talked about, you know, going from
Speaker 1: micro to macro and it's like, yes, that counts, you know,
Speaker 1: and you have those infrastructures.
Speaker 4: I'm a doom's there.
Speaker 1: I'm getting deeper into doomsday, like if something goes down,
Speaker 1: what's the plan? And you all the way in Seattle,
Speaker 1: Angela like we need to figure out how do we
Speaker 1: get together and how do we survive?
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing, right, Like some of what
Speaker 3: there are people that are like, oh this say the
Speaker 3: people tour.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody trying to talk about politics. I'm like, we
Speaker 2: not either.
Speaker 3: We trying to make sure we can survive, right, have
Speaker 3: an organizing plan in the event that they disrupt all
Speaker 3: the systems that we normally use to organize at least
Speaker 3: over the last you know, ten fifteen years. So that's
Speaker 3: just it, like we have a lot to do in
Speaker 3: a little bit of time.
Speaker 2: THEO were like, why are you moving so quick?
Speaker 4: We don't know hounderstand we have you don't see how.
Speaker 1: Much theyke tore our party too, But like no, and
Speaker 1: with these tariffs, I mean, everything is going to increase.
Speaker 1: And so then you think about what are people going
Speaker 1: to do when you cannot afford to buy food? And
Speaker 1: so I think it is work. You know, we should
Speaker 1: have somebody on the podcast. Maybe John Boyd would be
Speaker 1: a good guess farmers, because what does it look like
Speaker 1: if we start to grow our own food? That's what
Speaker 1: I mean, like small steps. So if you can't afford
Speaker 1: to buy food anymore, what does it look like to
Speaker 1: grow food? If you can't afford to buy eggs, what
Speaker 1: does it look like to.
Speaker 4: Raise chickens humanely?
Speaker 1: Because even the mass production of chicken, like the way
Speaker 1: our meat is killing us all the you know, so,
Speaker 1: how can you raise chickens humanly that are producing eggs
Speaker 1: you know that it's giving you protein. How can you
Speaker 1: grow vegetables that are not you know, marketed and covered
Speaker 1: in pesticides and coloring and all the things. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: open to those kinds of conversations. I would love to
Speaker 1: have John Boyd on and we talked about doing like
Speaker 1: a doomsday episode. How what do we do if we
Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow and we're knocked off the grid.
Speaker 3: Or if we literally mid podcasts and the power just
Speaker 3: go out?
Speaker 2: Does everything?
Speaker 1: I mean, that was kind of the plot on Zero
Speaker 1: Day on Netflix. But if I can't text you to
Speaker 1: say hey girl, are you okay? If I can't call
Speaker 1: an uber to get to the airport, which ain't even funny,
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: Use your phone, if the power is completely out, you
Speaker 3: ain't got no generator.
Speaker 4: What are your survival skills?
Speaker 3: If people are like, oh, well, I just want to
Speaker 3: be informed, let me go to Native lampod on YouTube.
Speaker 2: YouTube is like hell with them?
Speaker 3: They they they're they're being censored, you know, And and
Speaker 3: they're like, well, let me go to the iHeart app
Speaker 3: and they're like, uh, it's like the little scroll and
Speaker 3: it's like they can't even get a signal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're gonna do that?
Speaker 3: Questions your young kids don't know lene about Ghostbusters.
Speaker 4: That is funny.
Speaker 1: But you know, as this trade war with China increase,
Speaker 1: I mean that is a for a legit threat.
Speaker 4: You know, we have a lot of it is.
Speaker 3: These are we are not making like people will say,
Speaker 3: oh my god, you worry so much. These are legitimate concerns.
Speaker 3: I worked on the Homeland Security Committee. We have been
Speaker 3: talking about this for ye years.
Speaker 4: What is the takeway.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump from the Homeland Security like for all your
Speaker 1: years on the hill, especially on Homeland Security. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Congressman Benny Thompson, friend of the Showy Boss and
Speaker 1: the former Boss, is there any takeaway that you have,
Speaker 1: Like is there hope?
Speaker 2: Like you know, I was like, no, that My answer
Speaker 2: is not about to be hopeful.
Speaker 3: I guess you're going to be what everybody's been saying.
Speaker 3: They've been saying America, you and danger girl. America. You've
Speaker 3: been in danger girl, like all the vulnerabilities on every side,
Speaker 3: from the grid to like even what you see what TSA,
Speaker 3: which now they're talking about defunding too. But the TSA
Speaker 3: when you're at the airport, well, now we take off
Speaker 3: our shoes if you don't have pre check, you know,
Speaker 3: we take off our shoes to go through the metal detectors.
Speaker 3: Because somebody had a bomb in their shoe. Well, what
Speaker 3: happens with TSA and has long existed. Now we'round down
Speaker 3: a whole other road. But the short version is they
Speaker 3: only respond to a threat once it's already occurred. That
Speaker 3: means it's too late. They're not anticipating the next threat.
Speaker 3: Now they have these long ass machines that are super
Speaker 3: expensive that goes a lot slower and still don't detect
Speaker 3: everything they're supposed to detect because it could be operator error,
Speaker 3: you know. So it's just there are so many threats,
Speaker 3: and I think home grown terrorism is to me the
Speaker 3: biggest threat because we saw what they were willing to
Speaker 3: do on January sixth. Now the January sixth insurrectionists are
Speaker 3: inside and sworn in to the government. These are your people, y'all.
Speaker 3: These are the people who have been appointed to positions
Speaker 3: where they should have a certain level past, a certain
Speaker 3: background check, background checks be damned right, So these are
Speaker 3: now your people. The January sixth insurrectionists are now the
Speaker 3: Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Cash Battel is running the FBI like that doesn't give
Speaker 1: you great concern. The Angry Internet's comments section is running
Speaker 1: the government like legit, crazy people. One thing about I
Speaker 1: think our homeland security that you talked about that really
Speaker 1: this is the thing that keeps me up at night.
Speaker 1: Political violence. We've talked about it on this show many times.
Speaker 1: It just takes enough people to say, I do not
Speaker 1: adhere to these rules. I don't want to stop at
Speaker 1: stop signs anymore. I don't want to stop at stopwlights anymore.
Speaker 1: There are anarchists who are actually in the government running
Speaker 1: the government, and then there are people outside the government
Speaker 1: who are followers, who are members of this cult, who
Speaker 1: can just decide right now, Donald Trump, a part of
Speaker 1: his executive word that you sent me on DC not
Speaker 1: only to recriminalize marijuana, but also to institute open carry
Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, where it is the home of our
Speaker 1: federal government, where you have dignitaries from all over the globe.
Speaker 4: Do you know how hard.
Speaker 1: It is to even get a gun permit in the
Speaker 1: nation's capital now Maryland and Virginia is something else. But
Speaker 1: in the nation's capital. There are over thirty something law
Speaker 1: enforcement agencies that exist in the nation's capital because it
Speaker 1: is that big a threat. And I wondered, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was when I'm there, I'm like, do.
Speaker 4: I feel safer in DC?
Speaker 1: Because it's not a big deal to be walking down
Speaker 1: the street and see a sniper on the roof, you know,
Speaker 1: like that means, oh, the President might be coming down
Speaker 1: this street late, Like we don't know, but it's just something.
Speaker 1: You do I feel safer or do I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a bigger target on me? Because I am here
Speaker 1: where the Pentagon is house, where Capital, this house, where
Speaker 1: White House's house. I have felt safer until this half witted,
Speaker 1: politically inept fool took office, and now I.
Speaker 4: Feel not safe at all. I feel like it is
Speaker 4: a bigger target.
Speaker 1: Even this week, I don't know if you saw, he
Speaker 1: was at the NRCC dinner, which is the campaign arm
Speaker 1: of the Republicans on Capitol Hill, and he's talking about
Speaker 1: all you guys should see all these heads of state
Speaker 1: kissing my ass.
Speaker 4: They want to make a deal like your who talks
Speaker 4: like that?
Speaker 2: Donald Trump?
Speaker 4: You were talking to the whole globe. You were talking.
Speaker 1: I just I'm telling you, Angela, I do not see
Speaker 1: this country surviving.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I think it's a I think it's a series finale
Speaker 1: of The White Man's Be Dead.
Speaker 2: You know, you off us in the last episode.
Speaker 4: We are coming to her from the hereafter bringing beyond.
Speaker 2: We are coming to you from the Pearlygates. I hope
Speaker 2: this is the Pearlygates, because I don't. I hope Heaven
Speaker 2: don't feel like this. Actually, no, I want to.
Speaker 1: I want my spirit to be so elevated. I want
Speaker 1: to be in a completely different you.
Speaker 2: Basically just want to feel high.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but elevated in a way that my mind
Speaker 1: can't even comprehend.
Speaker 4: You know that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest too. That's another reason why I smoke,
Speaker 1: Like the stressors.
Speaker 4: Okay, well the doors of the Weed Church.
Speaker 2: Are not open. But the podcast is over because we
Speaker 2: are we off another team.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I was trying to say, Oh, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: say the reason why I smoke is because the stressors
Speaker 1: of life. Now, I used to smoke, you know, every
Speaker 1: now and then. When I say every now and then,
Speaker 1: I mean like once or twice a week in this
Speaker 1: Trump administration. I just want you y'all to know your
Speaker 1: girl is smoky over here. I know one of those
Speaker 1: pers my.
Speaker 2: Name is Tiffany, and people like, hi, Tiffany, that was
Speaker 2: this is uh we are w a not it's not
Speaker 2: as w.
Speaker 1: A Listen, I I.
Speaker 2: I right, not want to help though.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, because so many, so many people
Speaker 1: like prescription drugs, xanaxolo all of that stuff. Like I'm right,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not judging anybody who takes it, and I'm
Speaker 1: not awakened baker, like I can't wake up and smoke.
Speaker 1: And if I ever did this show, how I trust
Speaker 1: me everybody would know.
Speaker 2: Everybody would It Ain't like we'd be like, tiff.
Speaker 4: Just sit there, this is there. She would be like
Speaker 4: this seriously.
Speaker 1: It would be dead air Angel could be asking me
Speaker 1: a question and I would just I would have the thought,
Speaker 1: and then they and I'd be like no, no, no one wait.
Speaker 4: And then the thought is gone already.
Speaker 1: So in the heat of me for me to sleep,
Speaker 1: I yeah, I gotta take a hit, and I sleep.
Speaker 1: I'm comatos and I wake up at five in the
Speaker 1: morning like I could run a marathon, like I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go. But it is the thing that that stops
Speaker 1: my mind from focusing on all the things keeping me
Speaker 1: up at night.
Speaker 4: It really is.
Speaker 1: And I surmise that there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this and I don't know. We gotta go,
Speaker 1: But I just thought about this. I forget who was it.
Speaker 1: It was maybe one of the networks, and they did
Speaker 1: a special on moms who smoke. Okay, oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: saw you saw it? I girl, I was so damn offended.
Speaker 1: It was all these ain't no black mamas insight, And
Speaker 1: it's all these moms who are just talking about how
Speaker 1: much they love weed and they passed weed and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And I just thought of all the black
Speaker 1: mothers who are sitting in jail because they needed to smoke,
Speaker 1: like they didn't have half the privilege of these women
Speaker 1: in this video, or the fact that it celebrate it
Speaker 1: because it's a bunch of white women in there who
Speaker 1: like to smoke. It was celebrated, But imagine doing a
Speaker 1: segment on fifteen black moms who were saying smoking weed
Speaker 1: helps me be a better mother, Like I have so
Speaker 1: much stress in my life, I gotta smoke sometimes just
Speaker 1: to get through the day. Do you know child protective
Speaker 1: services will be at the homes of those women, But
Speaker 1: because they were white, privileged women, it was something to celebrate.
Speaker 1: I looked at it in discuss anyway. I just brought
Speaker 1: that up because I was talking about smoking, and now
Speaker 1: I'm upset and I gotta go smoke.
Speaker 4: So thank you all for tuning in, y'all.
Speaker 2: We sorry. This is definitely your ADHD episode. Welcome home,
Speaker 2: y'all if you joined Tiff on the high end of
Speaker 2: the spectrum, let her know. She'll be happy to know
Speaker 2: that she is not alone in this moment. So in
Speaker 2: all you're smoking, just make sure y'all are acting as well.
Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all. God bless you and your families. Welcome home.
Speaker 2: Until next I will see.
Speaker 4: You this Welcome Home.
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