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Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of your celebrity mentors, Kelly ben Simon, and

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Speaker 2: today I have an incredible guest. You know her as

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Speaker 2: the star of Netflix My Unorthodox Life. She's the CEO

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Speaker 2: of Elite World Group, a fashion designer, an entrepreneur, and

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Speaker 2: all around bedass And like all of us on this pod,

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Speaker 2: she's been through it in the love department. I can't

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Speaker 2: wait to dive into religion and relationships.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Julia Hart, Hi with the Big Heart. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I need to talk to you. I've watched your.

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Speaker 2: Show, My Unorthodox Life, and first of all, I want

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Speaker 2: to tell you I really appreciate you who for you

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Speaker 2: you are, your opening up about your your own journey,

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Speaker 2: and your daughters are so beautiful, and your son. I

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Speaker 2: was very moved, very very moved, And I was watching

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Speaker 2: the show with my youngest daughter, and so we were

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Speaker 2: just very you know, taken aback by your story and

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Speaker 2: just the way that you raise your children. And it

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Speaker 2: was just very really, really beautiful. So, for those who

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Speaker 2: don't know, Julia Hart is iconic, and she came from

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Speaker 2: an ultra orthodox Jewish community. So for those who aren't

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Speaker 2: familiar with with Orthodox lifestyle. Can you explain to our

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Speaker 2: audience what that looks like.

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Speaker 3: Well, just think of it as a mix between Bridgerton

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Speaker 3: and Handmaid's Tale, so minus the fabulous costumes and the

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Speaker 3: gowns and the parties. Basically, you're defined by your biology

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Speaker 3: as a woman. You have one purpose in life, and

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Speaker 3: all women are supposed to do the exact same thing,

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Speaker 3: and that is have children, get married, be subservient to

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Speaker 3: your husband. And basically your ability to be good or

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Speaker 3: bad is all dependent on a man. So if you're

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Speaker 3: a good woman, that means you don't attract me ale attention.

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Speaker 3: You keep in the background, you stay silent, you do

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Speaker 3: whatever your husband tells you, and you just raise as

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Speaker 3: many babies as humanly possible. A bad woman is someone

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Speaker 3: who is outgoing, who is noticeable, who argues with men.

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Speaker 3: So your entire destiny, who you are as a human being,

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Speaker 3: is all in a relation to a man. That's pretty

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Speaker 3: much it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, was there anything about the Orthodox life that you liked?

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Speaker 3: Community? I love the people there, you know, I always say,

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Speaker 3: even in my book, there are no villains in my story, right,

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Speaker 3: there's only victims because the people in the community are extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: When my brother was killed. My brother died when he

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Speaker 3: was five. He was killed in a car accident. And

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Speaker 3: if I tell you that, every person in that community

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Speaker 3: found a way to make us feel loved. We had

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Speaker 3: every day. The community. The sense of love that's there

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Speaker 3: is really beautiful. And I think also there's some traits

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Speaker 3: that you know, are so instilled in you that I

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Speaker 3: think they've really carried me well throughout, you know, the

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Speaker 3: rest of my journey so far. Gratitude is a big one.

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Speaker 3: You are always in a state of gratitude. And I

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Speaker 3: think that that's something that gets lost here in the

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Speaker 3: outside world. Is it's give me, give me, give me,

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Speaker 3: not think you, thank you, thank you. And I think

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Speaker 3: if more people were looking at what they owed the

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Speaker 3: world and what the world owed them, would be in

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Speaker 2: That is so beautifully well said. And I mean, I

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Speaker 2: just I'm just I'm very like, I'm just very moved

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Speaker 2: by you.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you.

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Speaker 3: Just I mean, you are absolutely stunningly kid. Wow, your magnificent.

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Speaker 2: So I started this podcast because I called off my

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you call me? Jesus?

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Speaker 2: And the reason that I called off one of the

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Speaker 2: at the time wouldn't send my prenap And you know,

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Speaker 2: And so I am so grateful for that moment and

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Speaker 2: for this podcast, and I've learned so much about myself,

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Speaker 2: and I'm really excited to talk to you about dating

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Speaker 2: in your fifties. Filter I would just jump into that

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Speaker 1: We were like, what's it like? Must be awful? Men?

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Speaker 2: Are your pen pals? Like, what are your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I am going to, like, you know, I

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Speaker 3: The first guy slept was a twenty one year old

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Speaker 3: And then I met a guy that became my boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: and after I broke up with him, I met my husband.

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Speaker 3: So I never actually got to date so the first

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Speaker 3: started dating at fifty three. So, you know, for me,

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Speaker 3: it's so fun. You know, I'm having a last First

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Speaker 3: guys like late twenties, early Thirties's amazing, and we're kind

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Speaker 3: of at the same place in our life, right, I've

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Speaker 3: been working for twelve years. Guys in their thirties have

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Speaker 3: play golf, they want to play tennis. They want to vacation.

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Speaker 3: been having just an amazing time now. Of course, have

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Speaker 3: I met anyone who I would consider a boyfriend?

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Speaker 3: Have I been having a lot of fun in the process, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's been great.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was just wondering too, because, like we were

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Speaker 2: like some awful sease, infectious disease. I'm like, I'm just

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Speaker 3: So you're stunning, like any guy on earth would be

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Speaker 3: like literally on the floor your toes, begging to date you.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking you with me, I'm gonna ping you in

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Speaker 1: I can't get over. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: But you know it's interesting that you know, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of people were like, well, you know, because of

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Speaker 2: what you've done in your past with your work and

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Speaker 2: you know what you look like. You know, people are

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Speaker 1: It was very strange and it wasn't by men.

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Speaker 1: It was by women.

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Speaker 3: But you know, what do you think of that? You

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Speaker 3: know what's so interesting? When I was shituch dating, which

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Speaker 3: You have to decide if this person is the person

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Speaker 3: that you're smart. It's very men don't like that if

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Speaker 3: words people use when they describe successful women bad ass, bitch.

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Speaker 3: Why is it that men are not called bad asshole

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Speaker 3: about it, right, they're captains of industry, they're leaders, they're titans.

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Speaker 2: Right or like boss, bitch and witch?

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Speaker 3: Why think about the demure? Does that word ever apply

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Speaker 3: Women are supposed to be demure and well behaved and

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Speaker 3: everything about you, you know, as I was driving over here,

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Speaker 1: To talk about and your relationships. You're thinking about lasers.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, seriously, I was. I was listening to somebody

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Speaker 3: how incredibly hypocritical. The entire world forces us to look

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Speaker 3: So if I had made it up to hurt him.

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Speaker 1: That is awful.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting too because at the beginning, when

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Speaker 3: Or how they're going to treat you right, you know.

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Speaker 3: about you. That's what happened. He lied, I had to

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you were dropping some major stuff here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So religion and relationships, because I have dated men that

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Speaker 3: Relationship shouldn't matter. I think if a belief system supersedes love,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Love is greater than what you call God or what

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting sitting here talking to you because

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Speaker 2: you are so well put together. I mean you're physically

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Speaker 1: Like what like there's I mean, there's obviously.

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Speaker 2: So many things that have happened to you outside of

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Speaker 3: With with my marriage, I mean, in life, your marriage,

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Speaker 2: I also like the fact that you're like the like

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Speaker 2: and you're like, Okay, it's fine, Like everyone's just going

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Speaker 2: up and everyone's like, what is going on here, You're like, it's.

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Speaker 3: Fine, It's all about the children. In the end, Is

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Speaker 3: to be friends or not? That was a question will

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Speaker 1: But he's not. He's a great dad.

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Speaker 3: And because he's a great dad, that meant to me

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Speaker 3: I think his wife is a lovely, lovely person.

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Speaker 1: She is, She's a.

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Speaker 3: But then if you come for me, I will fight

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Speaker 3: for truth on justice.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I wish that you had been with me on Housewives.

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Speaker 2: I would have brought you to Scary Island. I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: It's Julia Hart.

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Speaker 2: You and I would have a lot away from me.

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Speaker 2: I've got Julie here. Everyone would be.

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Speaker 3: Like, ah.

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Speaker 2: So there's this whole new movement called, you know, the

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Speaker 2: traditional wives. And I was watching on TikTok last night

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Speaker 1: Feel about this. First of all, I want to hear

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Speaker 3: And then I'll tell me I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: So traditional wives is basically this kind of new mindset

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Speaker 2: that their children are you know, educated, and their home

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Speaker 2: is night you know, is well kept. Like what do

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Speaker 2: on the show on the on TikTok, like, listen, I

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Speaker 2: support anyone who's making money, however they're making money. I

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Speaker 2: hands down, but I'd just like think this is a

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is going on? Do you have to

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Speaker 1: wear ruffles to be a traditional? Like? What is you

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Speaker 1: know what?

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Speaker 3: I would say that it's not new. I would say

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Speaker 3: what we have, right. So, you know, kids who grew

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Speaker 3: nature to think that what your parents did was idiotic

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Speaker 3: tell you how many times when I was creative director

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Speaker 3: of La Perla, and I spent a lot of times

437
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Speaker 3: in my store because to me, fashion when I came

438
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: into fashion was for women, but it wasn't for women.

439
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: Nobody cared how they felt. No one cared if they

440
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,239
Speaker 3: were comfortable. I got yelled at by magazine editors and

441
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: told Julia comfort is a dirty word. Women are supposed

442
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Speaker 3: to suffer for fashion. And I'm looking at them saying,

443
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: what why?

444
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Speaker 1: Who said?

445
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this is ridiculous. But that was the kind

446
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 3: of concept right until literally twenty sixteen. They were stilling

447
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: for a beauty. So I think it's just human nature.

448
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: Is whatever your family or you know, the generation before

449
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: you did, you're going to try the opposite way. So

450
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: this is just a flashback. I would love to see

451
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: these young ladies ten years into this, you know, being

452
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: a perfect housewife where they don't have autonomy and they

453
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: have to ask permission before they purchase something. And that's

454
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: what I was saying about La Pearl. I would spend

455
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Speaker 3: a lot of times in the store, and if I

456
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: to you how many times a woman would come in

457
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: and want to buy something and she'd say, I have

458
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 3: to call my husband and see if I can buy it.

459
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: I remember thinking to myself, my goal in this world

460
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: is to make an army of financially independent women who

461
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: never have to ask permission. And let's give them ten

462
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: years in their perfect life where they don't make their

463
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: own money and they have to ask their husband for everything.

464
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: Let's get them on the show after that, because I

465
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: promise you they'll be just as miserable as I was.

466
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Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting because like the reason that the sixties,

467
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: like you were talking about this free love, the reason

468
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: that the sixties was this movement is.

469
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Speaker 1: Because of the advent of the pill.

470
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: So before that it was like you comunicated to pro create,

471
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: like you're only having sex to have kids. Then all

472
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the advent of the pill, and people

473
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: are like feeling gorgeous, which is great, but you know,

474
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Speaker 2: I think that I mean, there's there's there's there is

475
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: five medium, right, there's not in middle society, and we're

476
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: always going to have these different levels and layers and

477
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I and I, you know, whoever wants to live the

478
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: life that they want to live.

479
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Speaker 1: That's great. I mean, listen, would I like to, like.

480
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, be at home and taking care of my

481
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: kids as opposed to like working like a workhorse.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have loved that. I would have loved

483
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: to have been like be gorgeous thoroughbred and not be

484
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 1: the draft horse. Like. I would have loved that.

485
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Speaker 3: I think there's a difference here between wanting to be

486
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 3: a traditional life and wanting to be a stay at

487
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: home mom because to me, being a stay at home mom.

488
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: If you want to be a stay at home mom,

489
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: I think it's one of the most beautiful jobs on us.

490
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Speaker 1: But you're also a CEO of the house. It's very stressful.

491
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think of a

492
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: stay at home mom as someone who is going back

493
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: to me when you say, I don't know the movement,

494
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: so I'm just to me. When I hear traditional wife,

495
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: I hear someone who's not working, who's not making her

496
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: own money, who's asking her husband for permission, who has

497
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: an inferior role in the marriage. That's exactly what that is,

498
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: as opposed to a stay at home mom, which I

499
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: think is an extraordinarily beautiful thing to do. I was

500
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: a stay at home mom and I loved every second

501
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: of it. I worked as well. But if someone wants

502
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: to not work and raise her children, I don't think

503
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: that makes her traditional as long as you know, either

504
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: she has a profession to fall back on if this

505
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: hits the fan, or there's a way for her to

506
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: take care of herself and her children. I just think

507
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: every woman should be financially independent. I was with a

508
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: friend of mine and she told me this story, and

509
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: I think it's really applies to this. She's a Someone

510
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: asked her she was speaking, and someone asked her what

511
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: she does for a living, and she says, I run

512
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: a home for unwanted children. And the whole audience was like, WHOA,

513
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: that's amazing. Where do you find them? How does that work?

514
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 3: And she's like, no, no, they're mine, but no one

515
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 3: else wants them. And that's the truth.

516
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: That is the truth.

517
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Speaker 3: When you're a stay at home mom, A, you are

518
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: raising human beings. I respect that, I admire that, and

519
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: I think every woman should have the choice whether she

520
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: just wants to do that, or wants to do that

521
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: and work, or wants to just work. We shouldn't be

522
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: punished for what we feel inside of our hearts. But

523
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: that to me is not a traditional housewife. A traditional

524
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: housewife is a mindset of the man is the boss

525
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: that I'm not okay with.

526
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Speaker 2: You know, It's interesting because I I am from Rockford, Illinois,

527
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: so I was raised in this very traditional environment, suburban environment.

528
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: My dad's lawyer. My mother was a stay at home mom.

529
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: She was philanthropists. She you know, raised us, and you.

530
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: Know, that's beautiful, that's how we were raised. And then my.

531
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: Mother felt she was I've had really really severe migraines

532
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: growing up, like very very severe from like my early childhood,

533
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: and so she was very, very sick all the time,

534
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: and being raised in an environment where she was so

535
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: out of commission, out of commission and debilitated like irregularly.

536
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: So it was a very difficult way to be raised

537
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: because she was when she was on, she was on,

538
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: and when she was off, she was off.

539
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: And there was no kind of like she's going to

540
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: be here, she's at work. She wasn't at work. She

541
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: was just she couldn't, you know. So it was very

542
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: difficult being raised in that environment.

543
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: But what I think is fascinating is that later on

544
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: she became she started working, so she was in this

545
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: very traditional environment and then she had these you know this,

546
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: these medical issues, and then she got you know, she

547
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: she started to work. And you know, she always used

548
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: to push us, be very very very aggressive about us

549
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: working and providing. And my older sister and I always

550
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: and I have a twin brother, but like always with us,

551
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: like you have to.

552
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Make your own money. You have to have your that's

553
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: my only rule. And it was just a strange.

554
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: It was also like this odd messaging because on the

555
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: one hand, it's like.

556
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: That's not what she was right. She was trying to

557
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: tell you that the way that she lived was not

558
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: the way that she wanted you to live. And I

559
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: think that's what I'm saying, Like I think, if you

560
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: want to be a stay at home mom, it's beautiful.

561
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: Just make sure you can support yourself, right. You always

562
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 3: have to have that in your back pocket, whether it's

563
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: a degree or a side job or something that you do.

564
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: It may not take a lot of hours of your time,

565
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: but you have to always know that if life takes

566
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: a turn that you are not prepared for, you have

567
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: a way to support yourself and your children.

568
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: And that's what's interesting too, is that when I was

569
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: on Housewives and I was obviously divorced, and people they

570
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: would say like, well, you're like, you're fine because because

571
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: you have so much money from your ex husban And

572
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, don't don't number one rule,

573
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: do not count other people's money. You do not know

574
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: how much they have. You don't know where that money

575
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: comes from. You don't know how they make that money.

576
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: You don't know, so what you don't know is none

577
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: of your business. First of all, that is like number

578
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: one rule. But what's interesting is that a lot of

579
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: a lot of the housewives would say to me, well,

580
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: I don't have money to leave. So then I'm like,

581
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: oh my god, Like wait a minute, what like these

582
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: women is outpoor of women that are saying like I

583
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: don't have the money to leave. I don't want to

584
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: be in this situation. And if I did leave, what

585
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: does my eventuality look like? So I'm just I'm like,

586
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm not your you know this mentor of this. I

587
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: don't know how I became this person and this voice,

588
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: but it was it was really, you know, unsettling, and

589
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: I felt and it made me feel very uncomfortable, Like

590
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do I give these women tools and

591
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: their tool belt to like understand. I mean, you have

592
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: you have a lot of confidence. You know you you

593
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: have gotten divorced, and you've been in these very very

594
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: very difficult situations.

595
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: But I'm not divorced yet. I'm still divorced. I literally

596
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: asked them for divorce nine months after my marriage and

597
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: it's three and a half career.

598
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean, my point is, you're a unicorn in terms

599
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: of how you're navigating all these different worlds. Whether it's

600
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: you know you're divorced, whether the religion, the relationships, all

601
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: of these things. You are a complete unicorn and it's

602
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: really really difficult for.

603
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: A lot of women.

604
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: And so I mean that's been great for me too

605
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: to be on this podcast. I'm like, listen, you know,

606
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: life sucks, and some people really suck, but some people

607
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: don't like And I'm here too, like I'm learning from

608
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: all of you guys about like how to be better

609
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: and how to do navigate things differently. One thing I

610
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you is your daughter, So she also

611
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: is she's divorced.

612
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: Yes, the oldest. By the way, she's gorgeous. Sometimes I

613
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: look at my kids and I'm like these human beings

614
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: came out of my body. They're like insanely extraordinary.

615
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Really savvy and incredible style, and they're like, hey, I'm like,

616
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: what is going on here?

617
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Like I really like her dress? Is that weird? Yeah?

618
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Oh, like I supposed to be watching the show. Okay,

619
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: I digress. But so what were your thoughts when she

620
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: was getting divorced?

621
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: You know, I was just so happy for her. I

622
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: was so proud of her. Of course, I would never

623
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: ever say anything, you know.

624
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: To me.

625
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: Your job as a parent is to give your children

626
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: the tools to live the life they want, right, That's

627
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: my only job was to provide all the tools and

628
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: then let them do whatever they wanted with them. And

629
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: the fact that she stood up for herself and said

630
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: this is not what I want, and that she did

631
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: it with such gentleness and such grace and such maturity,

632
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: and you know, look at her life now. She's living

633
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: her best life. And I'm just so proud of her,

634
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: so incredibly proud of her.

635
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean that shows and she is so well adjusted.

636
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, unbelievable. I was like, wait a minute, I

637
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: was a train wreck, and she's like amazing.

638
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: So calm, she meditated, She centered herself, she found a

639
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: way forward, she worked through it. She never like tried

640
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: to push all the problems behind. She really really put

641
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 3: in the work. And now she's she's glowing. Like you

642
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: see her. You can't miss the radiance. You know, it's amazing, amazing.

643
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's like mother like daughter.

644
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: You guys are like you are, You're just I mean,

645
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: you definitely raise your girls. Well, thank you all your children.

646
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: So eat, pray love. Oh do you have any prey

647
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: love moment?

648
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: So you know, I have become a massive meditator, Like

649
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: this morning, I meditated for two hours and forty minutes.

650
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: I know, but I get up at five, so so

651
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's seven forty. You know, I'm already done.

652
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: But meditate. Like, let's go walk back, walk through that.

653
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: Do you what do you do? I do?

654
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: Doctor Joe despends some meditations because it's very scientific. I'm

655
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: a math girl, right, I like numbers. I like data. Right, Like,

656
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: if you tell me, just believe you've lost me. Right,

657
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: I already was in a religion where I was, oh,

658
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: just believe this, and if that doesn't make sense, just

659
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: believe that.

660
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Right.

661
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that this is science, right,

662
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: It's about your penial gland and your cerebrospinal fluid and secreting,

663
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: you know, different things between serotonin and melatonin, derivatives of that,

664
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: all the things that it's basically what I would I

665
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: call it quantum living in the sense that it's teaching

666
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: you self mastery. Wait, that's very good, my quantum living.

667
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: That's literally what it is. It's existing in a space

668
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: in your mind that kind of supersedes what you're living

669
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: through in the moment. Because if I would have a

670
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: let everything that was going on outside to impact me completely,

671
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have survived. I wouldn't have survived. Three and

672
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: a half years ago, I would walk out my door

673
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: and people would look at me and say thief. Right,

674
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: because you may not remember this. It's a long time

675
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: ago now for everyone but me, because of course it

676
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: happened to me. When I first filed for divorce, Sylvia

677
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: accused me of theft, met mismanaging company money. I think

678
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: pretty much con artists a doctriss. I think I got

679
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: accused of everything women have ever been accused of, other

680
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: than witchcraft. I think that is literally the only accusation

681
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 3: he did not throw on my head. And it wasn't

682
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: until like nine months later when the first whistleblower came

683
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 3: forward and said, here's thirty thousand documents. She didn't take

684
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: a penny. He's the one that's been stealing from the company.

685
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden everything changed, and then

686
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: we got bank statements, and then all the proof came out,

687
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: and then discovery, and then all of a sudden, he's

688
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: on the run from the law. But I had to

689
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: live through the those first months, there was over two

690
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: hundred articles calling me a thief and a liar. I

691
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: would walk into a room where people literally thought I

692
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: stole from my own company, which was insane. Insane Why

693
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: because four guys said so without any proof. It made

694
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: no difference everything I had built and everything I'd worked for.

695
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: All it took was a couple of guys line for

696
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 3: it all to be taken away from me.

697
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: It's so fascinating because, like you know, people think that

698
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: because it's someone says.

699
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: It must, but it's fact.

700
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, just because I mean on housewhid people

701
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: are like, you're crazy. I'm like, okay, if I'm so crazy,

702
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: then I wouldn't be able to raise two children on

703
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: my own. I have my MBA, I licensed in four states.

704
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: I've done x amount of X, Like, you can't be

705
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: crazy and do the things the volume of work that

706
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: I've done. But just because one person says that, everyone's like, oh,

707
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: must be true, I'm like, no, no, no, you don't have

708
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: to be You don't have to like follow everyone. You

709
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: can like beat your own drummer and do your own

710
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: things and your own way.

711
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: But the lesson to me was awful. The lesson to

712
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: me was one woman with thousands of documents of proof

713
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: against three men with no proof, and I didn't stand

714
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: a chance. Literally, that's what happened. And if I hadn't

715
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: kept fighting until it came time to discovery, until it

716
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: came time for the documents, they probably would have gotten

717
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: away with it. And the only way to survive that

718
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: was to find a way to be whole on my

719
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 3: inside while while the world around me was going crazy.

720
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: And that's what quantum living to me is, It's that

721
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: you're the external. What's going on in the external can't

722
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: mess with your insides because your insides are so strong,

723
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: your heart is so strong, your faith is so strong

724
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: that nothing can mess with you, and that's how I

725
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: survived it. And that's doctor Joe Despenza. I mean, I

726
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: actually learned about it when I was in the front

727
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: in January twenty twenty three. I'm in the front lines

728
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: of Bachhmut in Ukraine, sleeping in an officer's bays because

729
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 3: I had brought I'd driven an ambulance through Ukraine during

730
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 3: the war and Bachmut was where like all the fighting

731
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: was in January twenty twenty three, and I'm literally there

732
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: getting missiles blown at my head and like hiding under

733
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: mud when there's literally guns like bullets flying. And one

734
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: of the people I was with was so calm, and

735
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, what the f how are you

736
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: so calm? And he told me Doctor Joe despends it

737
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: and tells me about this book. So I start reading

738
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: and I start meditating there in Ukraine in the front lines,

739
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: January twenty twenty three. And here it is two and

740
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: a half later, two and a half years later, and

741
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: I've already won my fifty percent of the company, plus

742
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: control over his fifty percent of the company, plus you know,

743
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: a decent sum. And now we're getting close to the

744
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: end of the divorce where hopefully a lot more will

745
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: be coming.

746
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: So now you can like be more mindful and more

747
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: strategic and be more data driven as opposed to like

748
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: as a so emotional.

749
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: Well, it's more that my emotions aren't impacted by what

750
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: happens on the outside. You know, when terrible things happen,

751
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean I have to feel terrible, right. The

752
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 3: one thing we can.

753
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: Control is truly, yeah, I feel you do not.

754
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: That's quantum living. I agree that to me is what

755
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: has not me a lot. Just because the world tells

756
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: you and difficult things are happening in your life, inside

757
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: here you can still feel joy. And then I learned

758
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: something really silly, which is going to sound silly, but

759
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: it's I promise you that if you actually incorporate this

760
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: into your life, like everything changes. It feels good to

761
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: feel good.

762
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: I say that, It just feels good to feel good.

763
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: That's what I say, even.

764
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: If you have no reason to feel good, even if

765
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: you have all the reasons to feel terrible.

766
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: It just feels good to feel That's what I say.

767
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: I talk about that, and I also talk about, you know,

768
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: kinetic energy. I was like, you can have frenetic which

769
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: is up and down, you can be you can be

770
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: like having these like pigs and valleys all day long

771
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: and you can like love your life, or you could

772
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: just have a great, great day with like all this

773
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: good news happening and fielding the fire and like take

774
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: you like Okay, I can handle this, I can handle that.

775
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: Or you can be like woo woo.

776
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel good to feel good even when there's

777
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: nothing outside to make you feel good, even if there's

778
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: so much difficulty in your life, How is it going

779
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: to make it better to feel miserable? It just doesn't.

780
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

781
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: Okay, let's shift gears for one second. Because you spend

782
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: your days with the hottest woman on the planet, with

783
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: elite world groups, so you are around the most beautiful

784
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: women in the world. Have you ever had a moment

785
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: where you're just where one of your girls came in

786
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: and was like, Julia, I'm having a really difficult time.

787
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: I need your advice with personal issues like this as well.

788
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: And if that has happened, what was your advice?

789
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: Well, I have you know. I don't deal on the

790
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: day to day with models, right because I have agents

791
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: who do so. But the times where I do speak

792
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: to people and I do get feedback. I tell this

793
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: to people all the time. It doesn't matter if you're

794
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: beautiful or not. The world will try and push you down.

795
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: The world will try and make you feel insecure. And

796
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: think about what a model has to go through every day.

797
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: Constant rejection, constant regions. Oh my god, think about that,

798
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: constant rejections again.

799
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: You I started having I started at fifteen.

800
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: So I'm sure you know. Oh my god, you're too tall,

801
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: you're too scary, you're too fat, You're to this, You're

802
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: aware is not your nose. I mean, think about the

803
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: amount of rejection women have to face. So it isn't

804
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: about being the most beautiful woman on the planet. Unfortunately,

805
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: life is cruel to women, whether they're beautiful or not.

806
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: And that's why we have to have this deep inner

807
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: core because if we're going to look for our self

808
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: worth outside of ourselves, we're going to spend our whole

809
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: life looking and we're never gonna find it. We have

810
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: to find it on the inside. I had to you know,

811
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: how you can kill words that if someone says a word,

812
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: it doesn't show up on your Instagram.

813
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeh.

814
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: I had to kill the words boobs, breasts, decolte, because

815
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: I would get at least twenty comments a day. We

816
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: find your breasts objectionable, you're so old? Why are you

817
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: wearing low cut tops? And I was like, oh my goodness.

818
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: You know what, why not I would say why? You

819
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: know what?

820
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: I just don't care. I don't care. I don't have

821
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: to explain myself.

822
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: I mean you're smoking hot though, Like this makes me.

823
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: Feel good and that's all that matters.

824
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: And if that's their problem, sorry.

825
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: It's fine, but I just I don't need to hear it, right,

826
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: I don't. I just don't care.

827
00:41:48,920 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: Right, It's a brave new world where like now, like

828
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: it's not just like you're making these decisions at home

829
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: where you're you know, in your you know, over the

830
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, over a you know, a cup of coffe

831
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: and you're saying we're not not we're going to you know,

832
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: not be together. Now it's like everyone has their two

833
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: cents and you know, you've just been through so so

834
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: so I don't even know, Like I literally don't even

835
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: know like how to like deal with this conversation. I

836
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: just am like very in awe of how you really

837
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: managed everything because and just like.

838
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: You're cool, you're just like you are.

839
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: You're there's easy going and you're cool, and I mean

840
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: even the way that you're with your children, and I

841
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: just I really, I mean that you got me at

842
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: I choose my I chose my children first. That was like, so,

843
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: what happens if you meet this like really hot new

844
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: guy who's going to enter the villa and he's going

845
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: to see a beautiful girl, Julia Hart. What are you

846
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: going to do if he's like, Okay, I love your kids,

847
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 2: but they're older, like let's just be together.

848
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you going to handle that? We

849
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: now have It's gonna It's gonna happen, you know, author

850
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: in my family.

851
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: And that is if any of us, myself included, meet

852
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: someone that we think is boyfriend material, not like what

853
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: I'm doing now, which is just like funning fun, but

854
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: like full on boyfriend material, they have to come to

855
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: family dinner and then the whole family votes, and if

856
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: the family votes, know that person is out out. And

857
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: there was only one guy in the last you know,

858
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: since I filed for divorce the last three years that

859
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: I thought like maybe maybe I brought him to dinner.

860
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: My kids were like absolutely out of the question, and

861
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: I broke up with him that night. I love that

862
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: we are a package deal.

863
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: Is there like a word? There is no more like

864
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: a word that's like no, are you guys? Just like

865
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: saying no, just.

866
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: Like ack factor if factor. If one of my kids

867
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: gets the ick, that person is out. We are a

868
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: package deal. Either you love all of us or you

869
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 3: don't get to love.

870
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: Any of us.

871
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: That's the rule. And I also tell my kids if

872
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: I ever think I am ever going to get married again,

873
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: or if I even say the word I told them,

874
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: throw me off the nearest cliff faster death. It means

875
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: I've clearly lost my mind never getting married.

876
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: So marriage is off the table for me.

877
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I understand that my kids want to get married,

878
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: and I think marriage is beautiful. I think if you're

879
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: going to have children, I think it's really nice for

880
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: kids to know that mommy and daddy, or mommy and mommy,

881
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: or daddy and daddy, or however your family is structured

882
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: that they're both legally required to be there. I think

883
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: that's beautiful. At my age, my children are grown. Why

884
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: do I want to put a legal contract on love.

885
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: I want someone to wake up every morning, look at

886
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: me and choose me have.

887
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 2: You been to be speaking to my youngest daughter, because

888
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: she basically said that on my last podcast. She was like, Mommy,

889
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: you do not have to get married again. I said,

890
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: it's not that I have see on the opposite, I

891
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: want to get I want to get married for the

892
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: first time. I spoke with the therapist when I started

893
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: this podcast, and she said, you're going to have your

894
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: first wedding, and that what she meant by that is

895
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: that you're going to have a wedding, a family, a marriage,

896
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: You're going to go on a honeymoon, You're going to

897
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: have a real love life partner. And that's what I'm

898
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: looking for.

899
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: That's great, I want to love life partner. I just

900
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: don't want to put a contract contract. Why do you

901
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: need That's my point, Like, why do you need a contract?

902
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Because you can have a you can have a ceremony.

903
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: You can have a ceremony celebrating yourselves and your love

904
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: the second you put a legal contract on it. The

905
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: second you're and think about it, it's the only contract

906
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 3: that has no expiration date. Your license has an expiration date,

907
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: Every business contract has an expiration date. And when you

908
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: add to that the fact that when this whole idea

909
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: of marriage was created. People's life expectancy was into their

910
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: mid thirties. The average person died within a thirty year pero.

911
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: They got married at fourteen, they were dead by thirty six,

912
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: so they only had to live with each other for

913
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: twenty years. Now, you get married at I don't know,

914
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: twenty five, twenty eight, thirty, and you're around until you're

915
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: ninety five one hundred. That means you're living with the

916
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 3: same for seventy years.

917
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Okay, this DoD is making to my stomach. I'm like,

918
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I go.

919
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: So I'm saying do I want real love? Of course

920
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: I do. Do I want someone to be my life partner? Yes,

921
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: I'm good at loving. Okay, I'm a gardener. I have

922
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: seven younger siblings. I've been taking care of people since

923
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: I'm old enough to speak.

924
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Well, what about someone taking care of you?

925
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: And I want someone to garden me back? No question

926
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: about it. However, what does he look like? Honestly, I

927
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: do not have a type. I don't care tall, short,

928
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't care hair, no hair. I do care about

929
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: fitness because I'm very fit and someone needs to keep up.

930
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Does he have to be the acrobat or like.

931
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: No, I mean, he does have to be really adept

932
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: in that area. Let's be honest. You know there's women

933
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: who like it, a woman who like it more. I

934
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: am a woman who's very I am a very physical person.

935
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: So I definitely need someone who, you know, knows their

936
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: way around bed. And I don't meant how to make

937
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: it and.

938
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't how to make it in the morning.

939
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: To you, this is not but you know, to me,

940
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: the things that I'm really looking for, and they're going

941
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: to sound so like goofy, but these are things that

942
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 3: based on my experience, I now understand that I can't

943
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: take them for granted. They're not always there. And that

944
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: is number one. Top top top is kindness. That's the

945
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: first someone who is kind I am so tired of cruelty.

946
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: I am so tired of it. I want kindness, But

947
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: is it.

948
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: Really cruelty or do they just like think was right?

949
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: He was.

950
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: He was saying that a lot of guys they get there,

951
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: they are getting like people. There's a lot of backlash

952
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: because these eyes are like learning like how to gaslight

953
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: and I'm like when they try to gaslight me, I'm

954
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: just like, I'm like you are trying to feel gorgeous.

955
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 2: And by the way, like most of the time I'm

956
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: wearing ear pods and so I'm not really listening to.

957
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: Any that's abuse, you know. I So that is cruelty

958
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: and to me, that's number one kindness. After that comes loyalty. Loyalty,

959
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 3: it's a big one for me. And then unfortunately, because

960
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: it would be so much easier to find kindness and

961
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: lived if I didn't need the third one, which is intellect.

962
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: I do need someone who can keep up because my

963
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: mind is its own being, and you know, I need

964
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: someone who can keep up.

965
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: So with all four, I'm going to go. I'm going

966
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: to go with the kindness. Loyalty is hands down, because

967
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: every single man I've every dad has been a cheater

968
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: except for one. Cheaters just like love me and I

969
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: like attract cheaters. I need bugs stray for like no cheating.

970
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 2: So I like the kindness, I like the loyalty, and

971
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: I like the athleticism, and the intellect is mandatory.

972
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: I cannot.

973
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to learn from my partner. I

974
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: want to be sitting there and be like, what are

975
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: your thoughts? I mean, I work with the most amazing

976
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: women all day long, who are so smart? I don't

977
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: want to go home and work and be with someone

978
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: who isn't challenging me.

979
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, I'm at the point where.

980
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: I don't want your thoughts on quantum living.

981
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: But I mean, so they have to challenge me. And

982
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: they don't have to be honestly smarter than me or

983
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: even as smart as me. They've got at least keep

984
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: up right exactly, they got to keep.

985
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: Up Before we leave, I want you to tell our

986
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: audience about body by Julia.

987
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: This is your shape where brain.

988
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm wearing my bro right now and I was looking

989
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: at it and it's amazing, and your daughter looks gorgeous

990
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 2: on Instagram. And because women you want to get themselves

991
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: and feel get themselves back.

992
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Together and feel good.

993
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about the shapewear and why did

994
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 2: you create shapewear?

995
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm so excited that you brought this up.

996
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: And also it's literally in thirty days from now, so

997
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: like mid August, we are coming out with a hybrid

998
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: You ready for this. It's clothing that has the bra

999
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: built inside and the shapewear inside. So and I'm going

1000
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: to send you one. It hasn't come out yet. It's

1001
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 3: it'll be online and hopefully in store shortly. But basically,

1002
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: it's clothes that are not just sold by your dress size,

1003
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: but by your cup size. So you can buy a

1004
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: tank top that's an extra small double D or tank

1005
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: tops that it's an extra small A. You can buy

1006
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: a body suit that's an extra large F cup or

1007
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: an extra large B cup. So the bra is built inside.

1008
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: And because it's built inside, we use the structure of

1009
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: the clothing so there's no strap. Because we all know

1010
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 3: that every woman on our earth, I've never met any

1011
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: woman who disagrees with me. The first thing you do

1012
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: when you get home is you unhook that strap in

1013
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: the back because it's so freaking uncomfortable.

1014
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: Well you don't I have a scar from.

1015
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, serious, everyone does. I don't know a single woman

1016
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: that that's not the first thing she does. Well, this

1017
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: bra has no straps. We use the structure of the

1018
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 3: clothing to keep the bra in place. And I'm gonna

1019
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: be honest, I'm fifty four years old, I'm a double D.

1020
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: Oh no not anymore, I'm a D cup now. And uh,

1021
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: they they wander, they don't stay put. I'm fifty four

1022
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: and to be able to wear a shirt where I

1023
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: don't have to wear a bra because the bra is

1024
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: built inside and it holds me in place and I'm

1025
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: never concerned about anything moving. It feels amazing. And the

1026
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 3: shapewear's in there too, so it's very comfortably shaping. It

1027
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: just holds things in place. But it makes you not

1028
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 3: have to wear layers. And then for.

1029
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Uh, for.

1030
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: It's a bodysuit tops, it's t shirts. It's closed. It's

1031
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: full on closed, and I love bodysuits and it but

1032
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: the bras inside and the shapers.

1033
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: Because you have to get and then I wear sometimes

1034
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: I have to wear this banks.

1035
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: But imagine if you have it all went together. And

1036
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: then in November we are going to launch Shape or swimwear.

1037
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: It looks like regular swimwear. You'd never know the difference.

1038
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: But because of our technology where we can make things

1039
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: colored and patterned, it's got the bral so it's going

1040
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: to pop you up, and because it's a stretching material,

1041
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: you've got everything. It's literally one of my models said

1042
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: to me, Julia, you should really tell people all the

1043
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 3: time that it's a tummy tuck, a boob job and what.

1044
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: Was the other thing?

1045
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: A tummy tuck, a boob job, and light boat in

1046
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: one outfit's amazing.

1047
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: I love that.

1048
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: Now that is serious because you know what women after

1049
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: their forties, they you can't you can't help it. I

1050
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: mean it just your body is starting to shift gears.

1051
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's just your your your boobs start to sag,

1052
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: and your stomach starts to make friends with leaves and

1053
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: go places, and it's like, get over here, what is

1054
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: going on? I'm like, why is my stomach not flat?

1055
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: Like it used to be flat? And now I'm like that.

1056
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: You never think, like Halle Berry from you know, James

1057
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: Bond movie, like little shorts tanky like shorts boys shorts,

1058
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: so pops up your butt, holds your thighs in place

1059
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: so you don't have those cottage cheesy legs. And then

1060
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: you have a tanky any super sexy. No one would

1061
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: ever know except it's shape where and it's also a brawl.

1062
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: I love that.

1063
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 3: I'm really excited about it.

1064
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: And also for even like for for you know, like

1065
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: red carpets and everything, people are like what do you

1066
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: wear underneath?

1067
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: Like You're like, no, that is so not fair.

1068
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: First of all, like I'm a human I have I'm flawed.

1069
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: I'm not perfect everything. I'm not the same weight and

1070
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: shape every single I like people's weight fluctuates. Yeah, like

1071
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: some days you might be a little thinner, some days

1072
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 2: you might be a little more bloated. Like your weight

1073
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: fluctuates as a woman. I don't think it's unfair.

1074
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: I can't believe that.

1075
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like I need a little love over there.

1076
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 3: So I'm literally like, I'm sitting here and I'm like,

1077
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: holy because I was about to say something and you

1078
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: just literally told me the reason why I'm doing this.

1079
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: The next part next year is we are making gowns

1080
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: ready red carpet wear with your bra and your shapewear

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Speaker 3: built in for that exact reason, because exactly as you said,

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Speaker 3: we're women, we're human, So why should we have to

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Speaker 3: wear nine hundred layers and then get embarrassed on the

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Speaker 3: red carpet and be like, what are you wearing under?

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to be designing and we're going to

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Speaker 3: launch it next year full on Julia Hart design. Because

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Speaker 3: you know, I've made Kemonel Jenner's dress for the net Gal,

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Speaker 3: I've made some pretty fabulous red carpet wear when I

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Speaker 3: was at La Perla. I'm going to be designing red

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Speaker 3: carpet wear wedding gowns that whole volume with your braw

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Speaker 3: and the shape we're built inside. So when someone asks

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Speaker 3: you when are you wearing under? It's all snarky and mean.

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Speaker 3: You can say nothing but my fabulous body, bitch.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. Julia, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I'll be coming to dinner with my man friends and

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Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh, Julia and her family and my kids,

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Speaker 2: tell me.

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Speaker 1: Is this the a your name? Well?

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Speaker 3: Seriously, they you know, they love me, so they're gonna

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Speaker 3: want the best for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love it. Congratulations, my unicorn, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Nice to see you. Nice to see you too.

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Speaker 2: Are you navigating your own life after divorce and needing

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Speaker 2: to figure out what your next chapter looks like? Need

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Speaker 2: some guidance? Call us or email us all the infos

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Speaker 2: in the show notes, follow us on socials, and make

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Speaker 2: sure to rate and review the podcast. I Do Part

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Speaker 2: two an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the

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Speaker 2: main objective.