1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Single best idea, I mean, across the arc of what 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: we've done for decades. This was truly an extraordinary day, 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: starting at about four point thirty yesterday afternoon, thanks to 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Anne Marie Horden for a wonderful interview at a Secretary 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: of Treasurer. I was sort of dumbfounded listening to it, 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: not because of Anne Marie, but because of the line 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: from the White House. We followed that for John Farrow 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: and conversation today with the Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnik. 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: The TAC we took, and thank you Joelivan's short notice 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: with his service to the first Trump administration. He's with 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: SMBC NICO, but far more importantly trying to talk to 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: people with legit academic and market experience across the arc 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: of our internet trade and of course all of this 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: starting I'm going to put it with the Atlantic Charter 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: of lessons learned back in the thirties and the twenties. 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: This in nineteen forty one and then World War Two, 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: the true development of our international trade policy, let's be 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: direct shattered. Yesterday afternoon we started strawing with Hoger Schmeting 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: a Behreenberg Bank, a wonderful voice, and you're great to 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: talk to him about Volkswagen with six hundred thousand employees, 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: his dynamics of Germany. But here is Hoger Schmedeting of Behrenberg. 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: On the moment, Europe will probably want to have the 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: market reaction, the reaction of US consumers registered with the 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: people who meet Donnald Trump. 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: On the golf course. Yeah, it will probably want that 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: so that the US hopefully will be more eager for 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: a deal. And in addition, Europe will threaten serious retaliation 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: without hitting the US now and then hopefully, say, within 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: the next two months, by the end of we hopefully 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: have negotiated some of this tariff madness away. 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: Alger Schmieding and barren burg Bank. We spoke to Doug Irwin, 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: of course, the academic of Dartmouth, this classic book Against 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: the Tide. I really recommend that as a foundational read 35 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: on all that's going on against the Tide. Douglas Irwin 36 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: from twenty five years ago, really coming out of his 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: academic works, graduate work, I should say now again at Dartmouth. 38 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: David Blancheflearer of Dartmouth with us tomorrow on Jobs Day, 39 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: but it was good to get perspective across the markets 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: in this economic moment from Ed yard Denny of Yard 41 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Denny Research. He has brought down his optimism. 42 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think up to now the assumption was that 43 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: the administration collectively knew what they were doing. But clearly 44 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 4: with the reaction of global stocking markets, that's not the case. 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: There is no vote of confidence anywhere, not even in 46 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: gold and what this administ station is doing. I mean, 47 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: as you said, there seems to be no place to hide, 48 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: and the only place to hide is to go to 49 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 4: the White House and tell the President and the administration 50 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: that this policy is just wrong. 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: We'll try to hide tomorrow with good conversation. It is 52 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: Jobs Day tomorrow. I was just talking with Sparta, who 53 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: drives a ship here, and you know, I said, I 54 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: don't know if this is a big jobs report because 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: it's so new, and maybe it has a little bit 56 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: of President Biden in it as well. But well, I'll 57 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: tell you the May Jobs report, May second, the June 58 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: Jobs report June sixth, they will be something. Please stay 59 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: with us on your commute across the nation. Good Morning 60 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: ninety nine one FM in Washington ninety two nine FM 61 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: and Boston. No, I'm not going to Boston tomorrow for 62 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Opening Day. I got other things to do. 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