1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Matter up. Welcome to Nobun's the show for the casual 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: baseball fan here on the Athletic Network. I'm tas Malice 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: with me making the magic happen. It's JD. Hello, HELLOJ, 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, tasking. Oh forgot about that. Thanks Jad. I 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: appreciate that very much appreciated. We are here on a 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: Monday because I want to do a show on my birthday. 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Now we're here because even though we usually do a 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: show later on in the week about baseball, I couldn't wait. 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: With what happened this weekend in MLB. Fernando Tatists Junior 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: suspended for eighty games because he took an anabolic steroid. 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to that. I put out the top five 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: teams that I wanted people to cheer for the rest 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: of the season. I got a lot of flak back 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: for that, and we will have one of those people 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: who gave me a lot of flak on this very 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: show a little bit later on. But we have to 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: start with the Tatist news and to break it all down, 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: we've got on Dennis Lynn of the Athletic Padres beat 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: writer to talk about it. Dennis, thank you so much 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: for joining us. You've written about it the last few 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: days on the Athletic he was suspended eighty games for 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: taking clossball, which, as I mentioned, is a ped a steroid. 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Initially he said he took it to treat ringworm, a 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: skin infection. We've had a few days since he initially 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: said that. Can we now debunk that as complete? BS? 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Is that where we are now? 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: Dennis Well, that is the I think prevailing reaction across baseball, 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: across sports to the statement he put out so far. 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Now we haven't heard directly in public from Fernando himself. 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: There's no clear indication of one exactly kind of talk 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: and expound upon maybe his explanation, but right now it 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: just does sound parthetch that you know, he took this 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: steroid accidentally to treat a case of ringworm, which you 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: don't often hear about either with professional millionaire athletes. 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: But that is his story so far. 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: The Potteris did not seem to respond very supportively to that. 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: They said they support, you know, MLB's enforcement of the 38 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: PD policy. So as of right now, I think Fernando 39 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: has allowed to prove. 40 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as enforcing the PD policy, is it 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: standard practice for a player to be suspended eighty games, 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: which sounds like a lot to me initially, but then 43 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: thinking about it, it's half a season. Is that the 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: standard practice for MLB? 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is standard for a first time violator haiti games. 46 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: He said in his statement that he initially appealed, which 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: will lead you to assume that this positive test that 48 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: a return came, came maybe a few weeks ago at least, 49 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: and he apparently didn't tell the Potteries because until Friday 50 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: night of last week or Friday afternoon, they weren't aware 51 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: of this. 52 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: So I think that's where a J. 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Preller Potter's GM is talking about a breach of trust 54 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: with his franchise player, and. 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: That's obviously part of why they're so upset with them. 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 2: But eighty games is the standard for a first time 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: violation of the PD policy? 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: Yes? 59 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: As you said, there seems to be a major gap 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: between these two parties, the front office, the entire organization 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: entities in terms of how they feel about each other 63 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: at this point, which is odd to hear Preller come out, 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: a J. Preller come on and talk and say yeah, 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: we honestly, there's a lack of trust between the two parties. 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: So for the uninitiated, why hasn't Fernando Tatis Junior played 67 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: this season? Give us the background. 68 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Well, number one, you go back to December. That'll be lockout. 69 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: It just started. He's in Dominican Republic at home and 70 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: suddenly reports of a you know, motorcycle acts and start 71 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: coming out. Yeah, first he downplays it. His father, Fernando 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: Tat Senior, who I think you all know, hit two 73 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: grand slams off Channel Park in one inning at Dodger Stadium. 74 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: They both kind of denied that there's anything serious. 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: The lockout was going on, so Pottery has had to 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: reach out through third parties that couldn't have direct communication 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: with players, including Fernando. They came away satisfied. Apparently at 78 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: the time that wasn't anything minor major, even though you know, 79 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: riding motorcycles are you know, it's pretty much a violation 80 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: of any standard. 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: Contract in sports, especially a. 82 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: Contract of you know, three hundred and forty million dollars 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: for Fernando. But that that happened, and then you know, 84 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: the lockout goes on. Uh, there's some you know, grainy 85 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: images on the Internet of Fernando wearing a brace on 86 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 2: his wrist, and I think the Pottery is to reached 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: out through you know, third parties again to make sure 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: everything is okay. Sounded like it was, and you know 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: he wasn't and some great pain. And then the lockout 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: lifts in February and he reports Superior Arizona the side 91 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: of the Pottery spring training complex and they do some 92 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: tests and scans and he had been complaining, I guess, 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: of some wrist pain as he ramped up his activity 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: to spring training, and turns out he has a fracture 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: in there, a skateboid fracture, probably the worst bony he 96 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: can break in there, the most complicated bone he can 97 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: break in there, and it doesn't really manifest that kind 98 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: of break in a lot of cases and a lot 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: of patients until you know, kind of the kind of 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: when they start, you know, ramping up activity. So it's 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: been basically three months until that time, you know, from 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: the time of the initial motorcycle accident to them and 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: they found out he was going to be out for 104 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: you know, at least three months, and you know, it's 105 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: been kind of a slow recovery process since the surgery 106 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: had in March, and then somewhere along the way, you know, 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: he gets busted for this ped and that kind of 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: you know, tells the entire story. They've been waiting for 109 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: him the entire time to come back and provide a 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: huge boost to the team, and right now they know 111 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: for sure that he won't be back until that season. 112 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Right so the eighty games covers the rest of the 113 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: regular season and the playoffs potentially if they are there 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: just to go back, as you said, motorcycle accident this 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: past offseason. Then the Peds on Friday, Gimpreller kind of 116 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: left it open, as you wrote about on the Athletic 117 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: that the possibility of re examining the circumstances of that 118 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: motorcycle accident are still on the table. So I wanted 119 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: to know, is there any possibility of voiding some of 120 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: this monstrous contract of the fourteen three point forty that 121 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: he received. Is that on the table whatsoever? 122 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: I don't think it's completely off the table. 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: I think the general consensus right now is it seems 124 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: unlikely if they wanted to pursue that action, probably the offseason, where. 125 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: March would have been the time to do that. 126 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: I think there's a big question whether they could have 127 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: even improven that the motorcycle accident was the direct cause 128 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: of the injury, that the fracturing is his risked back then, 129 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: so you know, proving it probably would have been harder 130 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: back then. It's probably harder even now, all these months later. 131 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: But just you know, the visuals of this, the optics 132 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: of this are are obviously really bad. So maybe got 133 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: to say they're going to do their due diligence and 134 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: go back and look at, you know, what exactly transpired 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: back then, if they haven't already. I'm sure they doesn't research, 136 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: but you know, this latest episode obviously brings up, you know, 137 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: what exactly he's been up to this entire year. You know, 138 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: he's obviously been on the aisle in the entire year, 139 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: so he's not been with the team every step. 140 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: Of the way. 141 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: But I think there's just a question of, you know, 142 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: how I responsibly did he act? 143 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: I think the actual. 144 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Act avoiding the contract that does, like I said, still 145 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: seem unlikely at this point. 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: I think, you know, is his agent, Dane. 147 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: Lozon, is a very well known agent in sports, and 148 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: if they want to go down that road and try 149 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: to test that option, I think that that might open 150 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: and worms they don't want to open. But at the 151 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: same time, when something like this happens, you have to 152 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: ask a lot of questions. I think Potter is still 153 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 2: the process of doing a lot of digging. 154 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think because of the relationships, they are 155 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: just going to try and rehabilitate this relationship with Fernando Tatis. 156 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: But you do bring up with everything you wrote and 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: now here about this gap in communication that he just 158 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: started his rehab recently, right, he just started communicating with 159 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: the team about his rehab only over the last month. 160 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 161 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: Well, he just started a rehab assignment or read been 162 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: on one until this came out, and kind of funnally, 163 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: he just kind of left the affiliate he had been 164 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: rehabbing at in Texas, so without telling anyone there, apparently 165 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: flying back to San Diego, probably knowing that this suspension 166 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: was coming down. 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: So that doesn't look great either. 168 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: But he has been around the team pretty much in 169 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: the entire season, rehabbing, just you know, not playing games 170 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: until this past week for minor league games just to 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,359 Speaker 2: get back. But yeah, they have been around, you know Tatis. 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: You know most of this time he's been swaying the 173 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: bat for a while. That was kind of the biggest 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: question how he's going to come back. But they're also 175 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: back in June. Some some fans who saw him Petco 176 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: Park swing before he should have been swaying a bet, 177 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: So that kind of speaks to maybe a player going 178 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: with their rogue here and the team was a little 179 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: caught off card by that. So kind of along the way, 180 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: even though they've been around in this entire season, there's 181 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: been you know, some questions about whether he's been staking 182 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: to his prescribed plan of uh, you know, rehabbing and 183 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, following every step of the doctor's orders. 184 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: So right now they're you know, he's back in San Diego. 185 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: The team's gonna play a series in Miami, and they're 186 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: gonna go back going to go back to San Diego, 187 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: excuse me. And that's going to be, uh, I'm sure 188 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of a circus to see whether 189 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: he talks then or you know, stands up in front 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: of the team and offers an explanation of events. 191 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: And he had that motorcycle accident in the off season, 192 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: as you said, is it true A I am my 193 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: sort of forging this in my mind that he was 194 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: asked about the motorcycle accident, and he said which one. 195 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: That did happen? 196 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: I was there, uh you know, on the back Paddy 197 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: O the Puerity Sports Complex when he gave that little 198 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: press conference. 199 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: I think there's some la lack of clarity there. 200 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: I think in you know, some circles about what exactly 201 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: he was referring to. 202 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: He did not. 203 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: Deny that, you know, there had been you know, in 204 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: an accent and bying some kind of motor vehicle, and 205 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: but I think when he said which one, he actually meant, uh, 206 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: you know, he had also mentioned that he had, you know, 207 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: maybe had a fall in the field just you know, 208 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: taking grounders or something like that. And by saying which one, 209 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the outlets glombed onto that 210 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: as like which motorcycle accident when I think his version 211 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: is probably there's only one. And then you know, maybe 212 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: he slipped and fell while he was doing some workouts 213 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: on the field one day. But again that's not entirely 214 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: clear either. I think a lot of these, you know, 215 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: all of thems are gonna have to be dragged up 216 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: and re examined. Has uh has the cloud race try 217 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: to determine exactly what happened back then? 218 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,359 Speaker 3: But maybe that's something we'll never know at this point. 219 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: One question about him appealing and then retracting that appeal 220 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: of the suspension, why do you think he did that, Dennis, Well. 221 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: It appears, I mean, if he fell strong enough about 222 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: this ringworm story to you know, release in a statement 223 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: to the rest of the world. Maybe he thought maybe 224 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: he does believe the story, or he is, you know, 225 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: determined to stick with it, and he was hoping that 226 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: you know, you could say I accidentally ingested something, which 227 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: I think you know, tons of PD offenders we've heard 228 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: that story pretty much every time that I didn't mean 229 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: to put this in my body and should have been 230 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: more diligent, And maybe he was hoping that he would 231 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: get some leeway there, knowing that he's one of the 232 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: faces of the game and baseball really needs him to 233 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: to be a face of the game on the field, 234 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: uh kind of you know, untainted to to really thrive. 235 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: So maybe maybe there'd be some forgiveness there, but I guess, 236 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: you know, there really wasn't there, so he. 237 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: Backed off that option. 238 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: And I think another question is when exactly did this happen, Like, 239 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: when did this deal happen? When did he get hit 240 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: with the positive test, but he did think that it 241 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: was worth going down that route apparently, so right now, 242 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: it's also you know, a big, big. 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: Question everyone's mind. You know, when exactly did this all start? 244 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: This whole process. 245 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: One of the faces of the game met one of 246 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: the faces of the NBA world once upawned a time 247 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: he met Damian Lillard. You wrote a story about that. 248 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: Can you expound on Tatise meeting Damian Lillard and that 249 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: whole story? 250 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think this just goes to show what a 251 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: big superstar, crossover superstar Tatis is. You know, baseball, he's 252 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: obviously one of the most recognizable names out there, but you. 253 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: Know, he's again he's he's been. 254 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: Good for this game up until this point. 255 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: Just just the marketability he has, the charisma he has, 256 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: and he grew up playing I think volleyball and basketball 257 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: in dr probably could have been good enough to go 258 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: row in some country and you know, either of those sports. 259 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: He's just an incredible athlete, incredible talent. 260 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: But he's always been a big NBA fan and he's 261 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: also uh, speaking of marketability, he's endorsed by or sponsored 262 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: by Adidas, which you know also happens to you know 263 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: sponsor Damian Lillard, and I think their shoe rep connected 264 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: them a couple of years ago, and he went up 265 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: there to uh, you know, sign his big contract. Fernando 266 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: did and up to you know, uh Portland, Oregon, and 267 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: along the way they he went to an NBA game 268 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: and they're you know, their shoe rep introduced to two 269 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: of them, and I think they struck up a friendship 270 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: from there. But you know, he's he's developed quite a 271 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: few friendships across uh, you know, major sports, not only 272 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: in base club and other sports like basketball. So uh, 273 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: it was it's kind of a shame to see a 274 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: guy who's you know, so young, so likeful, submarketable, so 275 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: well connected in the sports world have to deal with 276 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: all this at this point. Although and you could say, 277 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, that's obviously you know, his uh, his own choosing, 278 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: his own responsibility that he's in the situation right now. 279 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: But he and Damian Willard, I think, have you keptain 280 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: contact over the years, so right now, it's kind of 281 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: shame that Damian Lowler has been a guy who's conducting 282 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: himself all accounts really well. After he signed a huge 283 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: contract help of huge contracts and Fernando Tatis is only 284 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: two years and two his huge contract right now. 285 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 3: You know, he's kind of. 286 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: Been tarnished by the stain of this this whole episode. 287 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see the connection there, Tatis a few 288 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: years here with the Padres, Damian Lillard, a lifer with 289 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: the Portland Trail Blazers. Obviously, Tatis signed that fourteen year, 290 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty million dollars deal, the longest deal 291 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: in MLB history then with the hopes of being a 292 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: lifer like Damian Lillard and that connection. Yet it seems 293 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: to make sense. So I enjoyed reading that piece of 294 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: yours on the Athletic I'm going to take you off 295 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: your Padres beat here for a sec. Because one Soto 296 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: who was traded from the Nationals to the Padres and 297 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: was supposed to be part of the Big three with 298 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Manny Machado and Fernando Tatis this season, he went back 299 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: to the Nationals Park this weekend, he went back to 300 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: play Washington. I was a little confused. Please please just 301 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: give me any sort of background on why the heck 302 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Wan Soto was cheered and given the ovation the way 303 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: he was when he went back to Washington this weekend 304 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: after he declined nearly a half billion dollars with the 305 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Nats and they end up trading him to San Diego. 306 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think to your point, I think he 307 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: was little maybe I don't know if apprehensive was a 308 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: right word, but just kind of curious to see what 309 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: the reception for him was going to be, especially going 310 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: back so soon. 311 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: After the trade. 312 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: It was only ten days since he'd been traded before 313 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: they returned for that series in DC. 314 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: And I think if you ask fans in DC just how. 315 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: Much he's meant to that franchise over the past four 316 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: years or so, he I mean, he helped them deliver, 317 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: delivered a world series title to the city, as I 318 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: think as a really young kid, and he did everything 319 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: anyone could ask of a guy who'd been around for. 320 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Those four years. 321 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: So I think there's some understanding that, you know, the 322 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: average annual value, I know this maybe goes over some 323 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: people's head, but average aunty value of what the Nationals 324 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: offered them to stay in town is only less than 325 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: thirty million. You see some of these big contracts out 326 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: there in these days in Free in City, and he's 327 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: only twenty three. So when he gets to Free Ency, 328 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: he's only going to be twenty six, assuming he wants 329 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: to get there, and I think everyone knows whose agent 330 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: Scott Boris is, so probably good chance he tests that 331 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: avenue eventually, but under thirty million per year over that 332 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: many years, and you know, there's ownership questions coup the 333 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: that's who they're about to be sold to, and right 334 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: now they're the worst team in baseball just a couple 335 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: of years after one they want a title. I think 336 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: it's understandable a lot of these fans parts that they would, 337 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: you know, understand themselves that you know, he doesn't want 338 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: to lock himself into some kind of situation where he 339 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: doesn't know exactly what the future is going to be 340 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: and maybe where he can get a lot more money elsewhere. 341 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: So I think they kind of realized that, recognized that, 342 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: and just wanted to focus on the good parts of 343 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: what he gave him over the. 344 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: Past four years. 345 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: And you know, it's kind of an interesting contrast right 346 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: now between him and Tatis Sabilli. You know, the Tatis 347 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: story kind of shows you that no one's infallible and 348 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: anything can happen. Anybody who's as esteemed as you know, 349 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: as admired as Tatis was. But you know, Soto, same 350 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: age as Tatis, has conducting himself really well in public, 351 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: you know, to this point, and I think all those 352 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: things combined with his production is staying on the field 353 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: for the most part, is winning a title, is kind 354 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: of being the best hitter in baseball, especially that age. 355 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 3: I think that the fans were inclined to give him 356 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: some leeway there. 357 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tuned into Apple TV Plus to watch that 358 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: to see the the Washington Nationals and how they would 359 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: react because it was such a big story these last 360 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: couple months. But yeah, they embraced their star. The average 361 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: annual value, as you said, was a little bit low, 362 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you, you know, using the full term 363 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: because I haven't bothered to look up aa V as 364 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: everybody references it. But it sure makes sense that wan 365 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: Soa would turn it down with his superagent being able 366 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: to go get him more money with the padres who 367 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: you cover on the Athletic and we will continue to 368 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: read you there, Dennis, Thank you so much for taking 369 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: the time before you catch your flight. Thanks a lot 370 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: for coming on. 371 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: Thank you j as a birthday, appreciate it. 372 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Dennis. All right, after the break we 373 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: will get to the lists that I came out with 374 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: last weekend, the five teams that people should be cheering for. 375 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: The Padres on that list. But yeah, there are some 376 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: angry people. There are some angry fans out there, and 377 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: we will have a No Buns fan come on to 378 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: tell me why I'm an idiot, why I was wrong 379 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: to make that list the way I did. Stay tuned, 380 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Welcome back to No Bunts. On last week's show, I 381 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: ranked the top five teams that people should cheer for 382 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: the rest of the twenty twenty two season. There are 383 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: a lot of casuals like me asking who should I 384 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: cheer for? What team out there should I ride with 385 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: the rest of this season. My rankings from five to one, 386 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: the Mariners, the Mets, the Padres, the Blue Jays, and 387 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: the Braves. No real front runners, no favorites, a lot 388 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: of good teams in there. Obviously, I'm picking teams that 389 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: could potentially make the playoffs. And I was really really 390 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: happy about that leaving the Classic Factory because that night, 391 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: that very night, the Braves the number one team on 392 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: that list, they called up a man by the name 393 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: of Vaughn Grissom. Is that a baseball name or what 394 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: von Grissom. They called him up and he started batting 395 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: ninth in Fenway Park that night, and in his first game, 396 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: the twenty one year old, he ripped a shot over 397 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: the Green Monster and flipped that bat like he had 398 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: done it one hundred times. In his first game. The 399 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: twenty one year old had his family there. It was 400 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: an incredible moment for Vaughn, incredible moment for his family. Obviously, 401 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen a twenty one year old comes 402 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: into Fenway Park plastic ball one hundred and twelve feet 403 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: into the night. It was a booming shot, a real, 404 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: real cool moment, the bat flip on his first home run, 405 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: it just is everything that's right in baseball. People extremely excited, 406 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: obviously for the Atlanta Braves. I'm starting to get really 407 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: really pumped for the Braves because not only did he 408 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: have that booming shot, but he looked like a vet 409 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: that night and then throughout the weekend. He had a 410 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: steal that night, he had a second hit that night. 411 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: He looks very very good. He's guys stealing basis. It 412 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: just it just feels like baseball to me. So I 413 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: was very pumped about my number one team on the list, 414 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves. Throughout the entire week, I was extremely pumped. 415 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: Now actually after that, I think we also have the 416 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: clip JD of the entire team looking at the home run. 417 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Just a real feel good moment for Vaughan Grissom seeing 418 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: that blast. Grisom is now the third youngest player in 419 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: the Majors. One of the other two is his teammate 420 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Michael Harris the second. So you know, you got to 421 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: cheer for young guys. I'm starting to believe in this 422 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: Braves team we will get to all that. I am 423 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: just pretty pumped about my list. I think I'm doing 424 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: pretty good here. But but but there were some hitters 425 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: out there on Twitter getting extremely mad, and I welcome that. 426 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: I welcome the discussion and the argument. So one of 427 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: those people who were very mad is Brady, a no 428 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: Bunts fan and a no Dunks fan, Baltimore Orioles fanatic. 429 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: I think if you, if I'm correct here, Brady, you 430 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: said a slightly delusional Baltimore Sports. 431 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 5: And very slightly delusional. 432 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I've got some very strong opinions about the 433 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: team and about where they should be on the list. 434 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: All right, all right, well, I really really appreciate you 435 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: coming on. So we got Brady here to tell me 436 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: why I'm wrong. Now I got to give Let's let's 437 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: give a little recap what the Orioles did at the 438 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: trade deadline, just so people know out there what's going 439 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: on with this team. There were two games above five 440 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: hundred at the trade deadline, you know, a bit surprising 441 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: for this team that wasn't necessarily a favorite coming into 442 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: this season. At the deadline, they traded for veteran outfielder 443 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Brett Phillips, which was a bit odd because there are 444 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: other moves. Were getting rid of Jorge Lopez, they're all 445 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: star closer who had two and a half years left 446 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: on of control left with the team, and then career 447 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Oriole trade Mansceni for two pitching prospects. Lopez also went 448 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: for two pitching prospects, so four prospects, and then Brett Phillips. 449 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: That's what they did. That's what they did, Brady, just 450 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: to let everybody know. But why do you think, why 451 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: do you think just summarize, why do you think the 452 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: Orioles should be on this list? 453 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: I I want to I want to start first. It's 454 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: a hard it's a hard part to do with the 455 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 4: trade inadline, because the whole thing was that there were 456 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: a lot of narratives that we were like selling it 457 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: all off with the trade deadline, which was was not 458 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: the whole thing trade man scene. As much as I 459 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: love the guy, and I mean, he has been here 460 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: for what god, it feels like seven eight years. 461 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: Or something like that, life oriels and but he really. 462 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: Didn't have a spot. 463 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you've got guys like you got guys like 464 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: Ryan Mountcastle, who when he's when he's on, he's crushing 465 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: the ball. I mean he's sending it over the uh 466 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 4: we call it Mount Baltimore over there with the new 467 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: the brand new twenty five foot wall or whatever. But 468 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: and Jorge Lopez just had a little bit of like 469 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: a and uh, I don't even know how to describe it. 470 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: It's like anytime he would blow a save, which which 471 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: didn't was was was infrequent. 472 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 5: But anytime it did happen, it took him a little 473 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 5: bit to kind of get back in the rhythm. 474 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 4: And I mean we're seeing it with Minnesota now, I mean, 475 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 4: what is the three appearances two blown saves and he's 476 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: just not quite there. 477 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: It was he was having a pretty unique year for himself. Yeah, 478 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: one point six eighty R a before that, like a 479 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: six c R. He is obviously having a special, special 480 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: season for himself. But they did get rid of their closer. 481 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: They're all star closer. 482 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: Go on, go on, yeah, yeah, no, but then we 483 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: replace him with the guy who's just a physical unit 484 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 4: in Felix Bautista, like six foot seven, two hundred plus pounds, 485 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: throws like a one hundred and one mile prior fastball, 486 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: and again another sub two era right in some like 487 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: forty five fifty appearances. I mean, like it's it's a 488 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 4: consistent stretch. And now, yeah, he's a twenty seven year 489 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: old rookie, which you never really are super excited about, 490 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: but I mean he's been excellent. 491 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: And just the whole team as a whole, even after 492 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 5: the trade deadline. 493 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: It's just there's there's a whole different energy than there 494 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: has been within the last you know, five six years, 495 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 4: because they have sucked, right, But if you have the 496 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 4: Mets on the list, who over. 497 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 5: The last four or five years sucks and then all of. 498 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: A sudden start becoming fun, I feel like it's a 499 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: little bit it's a little bit personal. 500 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: Man. Well, I'm glad you picked out a team that 501 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: you could take off because a lot of these times 502 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: with these lists are when you're like picking all Stars, 503 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: you say, oh, this guy should be an All Star, 504 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Horory Lopez should be an All Star, but you got 505 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: to take somebody off the list. Now. I did probably 506 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: feel of all the teams that the Mets were the 507 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: ones that are you know, it's New York. Do you 508 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: need to have a New York team on the list? 509 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: I feel like, and they are leading the NL East, 510 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: so they're they're the one team over you know, through 511 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: through with all all five of them, that really is 512 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: I said, there's no front runners. I mean, they're kind 513 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: of a front runner, but at the same time they 514 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: are sort of, you know, the second best team in 515 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: New York. So that's why I kind of included them. 516 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: There there's the whole New York thing. So I'm with you. 517 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: I like how you picked that one out. That was 518 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: that's the smart thing by you. 519 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 4: And I like to say, I love Edwin Diaz, I 520 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: love the trumpets. 521 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 5: It's the it is the one of the coolest things 522 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 5: I've ever seen. 523 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I included Felix Batista, the closer 524 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: that you guys that you mentioned there for the Baltimore Orioles. 525 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: I included him along with Edwin Diaz the top five 526 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: closer entrance songs, those two both on the list. He 527 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: looks Batista now coming in to Farmer in the dell 528 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: Omar's coming. So I you know there was a nod 529 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: for the Orioles. 530 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I expected it. 531 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: I just find it. I find it hard. I find 532 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: it hard picking putting a team on there that isn't 533 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: going for it this season, as as we've said, traded 534 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: their all star closer and Trey Mancini, who, Yeah, he's 535 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: a feel good player for the Orioles. Good store, good story. Yeah. 536 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Can you summarize his career with the Orioles, everything that 537 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: you know he did with the Orioles and why he 538 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: is such a fan favor and why it was such 539 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: a difficult trade deadline for the Orioles. 540 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 541 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: I mean it's hard because because even when you saw 542 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: it right after you got traded, there was a lot 543 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: of coverage to these down here where like he's going, 544 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: he's thanking everybody, he's thanking his teammates, he's thanks guys, 545 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 4: and then he goes to the team doctors and I'm 546 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: sure everybody knows at this point, but he did go 547 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: through cancer. I was the twenty nineteen or twenty twenty 548 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: season somewhere in there, and I mean he credits those 549 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 4: guys with saving his life. And I mean it's it's 550 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 4: a tough thing to watch, like a guy like that 551 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: who's like like a pinnacle of just like he's a 552 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: great human being. And I mean, we have another story 553 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: about a young kid named Mo who had had had 554 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: some health stuff who passed away, and like they both 555 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 4: had the same like a connection, and I mean we 556 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 4: have we have Mo Gabadet now and that's when he 557 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 4: hit his inside the park home run at Mogabaday for 558 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 4: his last hit. And I mean it's like a storybook ending. 559 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: But it's hard because he's he's older than the core 560 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 4: group of guys and he's a first baseman and one 561 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: of our one of our like younger better hitters, is 562 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: a first baseman. And when Addley rush Adley Rushman is 563 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 4: not catching, he needs to the h and then Trey 564 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 4: MENCDI it's hard for him to have a spot. 565 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: So but his. 566 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: Career, I mean he came up in I don't know 567 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, probably something like that. I mean, he just 568 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: off off Rip has been a great, great hitter, great teammate, 569 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: which you'll hear from anybody in the entire organization, great teammate, 570 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: and it's I mean, yeah, it's emotional to see him 571 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: go because obviously he's like the last piece from like 572 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: those few Orioles teams you know, like three, four or 573 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 4: five years ago that you know, we're. 574 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 5: Actually had a shot at making the playoffs. 575 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: So it's tough to see that whole, that whole part 576 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 4: of the sort of regime go. But at the same time, 577 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: now we've got to clean slate, and I honestly don't. 578 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: Think they're giving it up at the deadline. 579 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 4: I mean it's hard because, yeah, you trade your all 580 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: star closer, you trade you trade your franchise guy. 581 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 5: But I think that. 582 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: I actually think they got four from Jorge Lopez, so 583 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: I think it's six pitchers in total. 584 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 5: But that's semantics. I mean, it's it's, uh. 585 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: We need pitchers, and we don't really have a problem 586 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: with relievers right now. 587 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 5: And we've got Felix Bautista, who's I don't want to. 588 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: Say he's young, but he's he's inexperienced and and we 589 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: can get him some experience under his belt, and he was, 590 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: you know, sort of the eighth inning guy, and now 591 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: he could be the ninth in a guy and get 592 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: those like high pressure situations, which is a great thing 593 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 4: for a pitcher to have, and then you just open 594 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: up more time in the lineup, whether that's the d 595 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: H spot out of trade Mancini or the first base 596 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: spot because we have a couple of guys who play 597 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: first base or DH or who need to be on 598 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: the on the baseball field every single day, like ad 599 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: at Ruschman. So it's hard to kind of have him 600 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: in the lineup because I mean, we see Houston. I 601 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: mean he's not really playing, but he's because he's behind 602 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: your Juli Guriel and he's not really an efficient outfielder, 603 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: so he can't play out there either. 604 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 5: And it's like but when he does play, he's electric. 605 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: So it's it's a really hard hard thing to to 606 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: kind of wrap your head around for like a guy 607 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: who is like I watch every OORLS game, so like 608 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: I know, I know what's going on in the field 609 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 4: where guys should be, who's the future and and it's 610 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 4: hard because he didn't really have a spot. But you 611 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: know what, how do you how do you trade your 612 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: your your star guy for a low a ball guy. 613 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: But you know, it's a fresh start. So I think 614 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: they're going to make the playoffs this season. I mean, 615 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to be an easy out. 616 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: We can forget anything that happened the last couple of 617 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: games with Tampa Bay. We've never been able to beat 618 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay and in the last in the last what 619 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: fifteen years, I mean, but I think I think they 620 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: got a real shot at upset in somebody. 621 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: At least I was going to say, bring up Tampa Bay. 622 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: If if this was a list for seeing the potential 623 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: for perfect games, then the Orioles got to be on 624 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: this list. Because Drew Rasmussen yesterday for the Rays eight 625 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: plus innings until his perfect game was broken up. First, Yeah, Hoteo, 626 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: first pitch of the ninth inning rifle a shot down 627 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: the line. First pitch broke it up. So listen, that 628 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: would have been great. Uh, you know, I was sort 629 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: of sort of cheering against the Orioles down you know what, 630 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: I'd like. 631 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: To say that low Keys, there was there was a 632 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: part of me that was like, at least I'll be 633 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: able to get to see. 634 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: It, you know what I mean. Right, But but listen, 635 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling me that hory Lope was actually 636 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: traded for four players. That's good that thank you. Thank 637 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: you for coming on and saying that and correcting me. 638 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: Man seen you for another two prospects. But listen, that's 639 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: that's six prospects that they traded for. My list was 640 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: for who you should cheer for the rest of this season. Now, 641 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: the Orioles. Yeah, they cleaned it up a little bit 642 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: to try and open up their window for the next 643 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: few years. That's what they're doing instead of just focusing 644 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: on this year and instead of focusing on trying to 645 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: be their the best version of themselves this year. Right. 646 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean Jorge Lopez, what's having a career year. Why 647 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: not keep him on the roster? Well, because they think that, 648 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's not as good as he is 649 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: this season. You can get a little bit more for him, 650 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: drey Mancini, as you said, a little bit older and 651 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: maybe not a perfect spot for him. Yeah, but I'm 652 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: not I didn't make a list for who you should 653 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: cheer for in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four 654 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: and who's got a great who's setting themselves up well 655 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: for the next few years. The Orioles could make that list. 656 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: I was a little confused by the Brett Phillips move. 657 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that has left a lot of people 658 00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: very puzzled. 659 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 5: But with what we gave up. 660 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: For of me, what was the cash considerations? I don't 661 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: think it was anything else. And I mean, we have 662 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 4: a lot of guys in the roster who are very 663 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: specifically good at one thing. Brett Phillips is a great defender. 664 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 4: Can't hit for the life of him, but he's a 665 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: great defender. We have a guy like Brian McKenna who's 666 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 4: pretty much exclusively a backup outfielder and a pinch runner. 667 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: So that's just sort of the way that the team 668 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: kind of operates that they'd like to have a few 669 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 4: guys on the roster and at least the active roster 670 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: who are like specialists, like, oh yeah, we need it's 671 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 4: the ninth inning, We're not going to come up to bat. 672 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: We need a guy who's not going to mess up, 673 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: not going to make a folly in the field. 674 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: So that's a great word, folly, folly in the field. 675 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: You know who wasn't making a folly in the field 676 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: this week. I'm going to go back to the Braves 677 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: because I was pumped to watch them. Von Grissom wasn't 678 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: making a folly in the field. He has a shortstop 679 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: comes up, he's playing second base and we like the 680 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, the weird quirky things on no buns. To 681 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: see him practicing on on a pregame in Fenway Park 682 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: with Ron Washington, who is the master of the infield defense. 683 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Everybody comes to Ron Washington and asks him how he 684 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: can get better. Will von Grison was on his knees 685 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: and just taking a little shots from Jue Washington. First, 686 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, backhanding balls, and then he put on like 687 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: this frying pan on his on his hand to be 688 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: able to you know, to basically transfer it to his 689 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: hand really quickly. And then he was backhanding and using 690 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: his footwork. So, you know, weird stuff here from von 691 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: Grissoon great stuff. Everybody again comes to Ron Washington. Apparently 692 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: people were coming to him at the All Star Game 693 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: and saying, how do we get better defensively? Teach me something, 694 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: teach me something, oh wise master, So you know, seeing 695 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: seeing that that's that's right up my alley for the Braves. 696 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: So I love seeing that. And then he turned around 697 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: and had a second homer this weekend Sunday with the 698 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: against the Marlins. Yea, it is the Marlins. They end 699 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: up sweeping the Marlins. But he had incredible couple at 700 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: bats and the seventh inning and the ninth inning where 701 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: he fought back from a one to two count to 702 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: take a walk, and then he had an eleven pitch 703 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: at bat in the ninth to walk. I mean, the 704 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: real deal. Just to get excited about young players, along 705 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: with Michael Harris the second who had a couple of 706 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: big dingers himself this weekend, to the youngest players in 707 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and alex on Thoppolos always plays his 708 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: young guys more than any other general manager in the league. 709 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: He brings up the young guys so they run the basis. 710 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited for the Braves and just to you know, 711 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: to to go down the list. The Jays it's a 712 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: homer pick. There's there's no doubt. I'm putting them on 713 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: the list. The Padre is just because they haven't accomplished 714 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: a lot. And the Mets, as you said, that's that's 715 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: a really good one to point out. That's probably the 716 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: one I hummed in hot a bit with for a 717 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: long time. But you put the Mets on the list. 718 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: You're cheering against the Yankees, so that's why they are 719 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: really included. You know you're an Orioles fan, you understand that. 720 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: And then the Mariners since they haven't been in the 721 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: playoffs since two thousand and one, three and one, uh 722 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: so I had to to include them there. Uh But listen, 723 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm not mad with the Orioles situation. I appreciate you 724 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: coming on with the with all the Orioles garb, and 725 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: you really think that they could uh jump a team 726 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: that they lost to yesterday, the Tampa Bay Rays or 727 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, the Mariners or the Blue Jays and be 728 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: a wild card spot this this coming uh fall. 729 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 4: I I do and and and I say that now 730 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 4: that we don't have to play the Rays anymore, it's gonna. 731 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: Be a lot easier. 732 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: But no, I mean we've we've uh we've shared like 733 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 4: way better played discipline, like across the whole board. 734 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 5: I mean, Jorge. 735 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 4: Mateo is a guy like you say you like you 736 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: like defense and and and and and good defensive plays well, 737 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 4: that guy, that guy could play some defense. 738 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 5: I think you should win the goal of glove. 739 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: And I mean, if he learns how to hit hit 740 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: a current ball, I mean I think he's probably the 741 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: best shortstop. 742 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 5: Of the entire division. 743 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it, and that's that's really hard to 744 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 4: quantify because like the defense outweighs the offense way by 745 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 4: by like a lot. And I mean he's batt in 746 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 4: two thirty on the season, but he catches a fastball, 747 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 4: he'll rip it into an upper deck home run. And 748 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 4: guys like Alley Rutchman, I mean, as soon as he 749 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 4: was called up, and I mean enough has been said 750 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: about Alley Rutchmand, but as soon as he's called up, 751 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 4: I mean he doesn't swing at balls at all. I 752 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 4: mean you'll you'll very rarely see it, and if he 753 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 4: does swing, it's a strike. 754 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 5: Crazy on base percentage all the way down the line. 755 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 4: You got a couple guys like Ryan Malcast who hasn't 756 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 4: been hitting as many homers as he did last season. 757 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 5: But I think maybe the new wall plays into. 758 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 4: That a lot and the but even there there, everybody's 759 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 4: on base percentages is improved. Maybe not statistically, but you 760 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 4: just see the guys have way better discipline. 761 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 5: Pitchers across the board a bit better. 762 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 4: Pitchers last year were terrible, and now they're We got 763 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 4: a We've got several relievers with sub two eras and and. 764 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 5: A lot of starters. 765 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan Lyles has you know, a four point 766 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: five era something like that, but he's leading the entire 767 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 4: baseball and start a couple of guys who are going 768 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 4: to be there every night, and and it's just it's 769 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 4: an elect it's an electric it's an electric team when 770 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 4: you actually I mean I I've been to you know what, 771 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: twenty games this season or something like that, but. 772 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 5: Because I'm all in, because this is the. 773 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: First time it seemed like we've had a chance in 774 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: the last four or five years. And the whole the 775 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: whole organization has a different feel. And I know I've 776 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 4: said that a bunch of times, but it's it's almost 777 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 4: like they can taste it and anytime they get ahead, 778 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: they don't want to relink the ship. I mean, we 779 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 4: saw it the first game we played against Tampa Bay. 780 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: We won ten to three, and I mean they were 781 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 4: they were full swinging it. When they brought Yu Chang. 782 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 4: It was the second basement. I think he's second baseman 783 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 4: out to pitch for the bottom of the ninth because 784 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 4: we were up nine to three and they were full swinging. 785 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 4: They just want to they want to bring the score up. 786 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: They want to show people that they're not messing around anymore. 787 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're not easy out and I mean 788 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: playing in the hardest division in baseball, it's tough. I 789 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 4: mean I think that if we're, you know, over there 790 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 4: playing Cincinnati nineteen times a year, we might have a 791 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,479 Speaker 4: we might have a leading the league at record, because 792 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 4: that's that's how feels. You got to play the Yankees. 793 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 4: You gotta play Toronto, and I mean those are those 794 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 4: are good teams. And I mean I know against Root 795 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: against the Yankees, I mean we've had a couple crazy 796 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 4: games against them too. I mean there was a game 797 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 4: where Aaron Judge hit two home runs, I think Jack 798 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: Carlos stand. 799 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 5: Had one and we only lost by one one run. 800 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 5: So I mean, they're competitive in the Al East, which 801 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 5: is incredibly hard to do. 802 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 4: And I think that they can leap frog I think 803 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 4: they can leap frog Tampa Bay and I think they 804 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 4: could catch Toronto. 805 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: Hey, it will be even tougher the next couple of years. 806 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: In the Al East. As you mentioned, the Orioles are 807 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: only getting better. Obviously, the Yanks, the Jays, the Rays 808 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: are always playing well. It's it is the toughest division 809 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: in baseball. It is ridiculously tough. So it's going to 810 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: be fun to watch games throughout the division. As you said, 811 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: you've been to Camden Yards twenty times. I'm interested about 812 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: the new wall. Tell me about the new wall that 813 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: they put up in Camden Yards. 814 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 5: It's it's divisive, but I love it. I mean it's 815 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 5: it isn't really as I know, it wasn't symmetrical before. 816 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 5: But you got in Camden Yards. 817 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: In right field you have the scoreboard which goes up 818 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 4: twenty three feet or something like that. 819 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 5: But it's short. 820 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: I mean, it's what short, three hundred and fifty feet. 821 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 4: It's no, it's no pesty poll. But it's it's pretty. 822 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 4: It's it's pretty. It's pretty short and the other side now. 823 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 5: Being so deep. 824 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's it's fun. I mean I went 825 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 4: to go see the Yankees, and I mean I watched 826 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 4: Aaron Judge crush one way over the bullpens, and I 827 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: mean that's the shot now that everybody's aimed for us. 828 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 5: It's like center left bullpens and. 829 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: It's it's just I think it's I mean, it's way 830 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 4: bigger in person, and I mean, I know it looks 831 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 4: big on TV, but I mean it's like it doesn't 832 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 4: feel quite like the Green Monster, but it's it's it's 833 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 4: notoriously hard to hit over now, and I think we 834 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: benefit that for the most because I mean, like our 835 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: star guy Cedric Bollins, who I think as of now 836 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 4: was our star. I think Alay Rutsch was cashed off 837 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 4: to it, but last year he had thirty something home runs. 838 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 4: I think he might have been thirty on the dot, 839 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 4: but he hit everyone to right field. And now we've 840 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 4: got guys who like even Trey Man CD was a 841 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 4: little bit upset at the beginning of the season. I 842 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 4: mean you could go back and hear some interviews. He 843 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 4: was not happy. 844 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 5: But they just started hitting it. 845 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 4: Over it, and I mean it's it's really incredible to 846 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: watch somebody hit it over a wall that far. 847 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's and I mean you see it 848 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 5: in Boston. 849 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 4: I mean you have to hit it up real high, 850 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 4: but I mean it's incredible just to see a line 851 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 4: drive go right over that fence and it's it's wild. 852 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: Very cool. I like how you described him as electric. 853 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: That gets me excited for Baltimore Orioles, their team in 854 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,959 Speaker 1: the future, for young players, just like I am about 855 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: the Braves. Just to bring it back to them. You 856 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: mentioned the home runs in Fenway Park. Obviously von Grissom. 857 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: He brought in Michael Harris the Second before him. Michael 858 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: Harris the Second had an incredible weekend himself. He's a 859 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: rook of the Year candidate in the National League. He 860 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: is so good and they're having so much fun and 861 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: it's perfect no buns material here because Michael Harris the 862 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: Second was our haste after the game on Sunday. Uh. 863 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: This was his postgame interview. It's a real Super Trooper situation. 864 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: Listen for the meows. 865 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 6: I was looking for a great pitch to hit and 866 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 6: I got it, And I mean I was just trying 867 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 6: to do anything I could to get on base to 868 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 6: help us get a win. And I mean I came 869 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 6: up to the spot and did what I did, and 870 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 6: I mean I really blacked out, and I mean it 871 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 6: was a it was an unmatched moment. Mew I mean, 872 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 6: I'm just glad we got to win and it was 873 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 6: it was just it was. 874 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: A real yeah, just squeezed one mew in there. We didn't, 875 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: we didn't cut them all together, but he did. He 876 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: did a good job. It was a real uh no dunks, 877 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: no bunts, the basketball Jones moment because we did that 878 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: a long time ago, right we we Yeah, we. 879 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 7: Had Brent Brett Barry on the on the call in 880 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 7: summer league. Where am I? Yeah here I am, yeah, 881 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 7: uh yeah, what what do we have him say? Like 882 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 7: a whole bunch of stuff? Yeah, I was definitely one 883 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 7: of them. I think I. 884 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: Was also thinking when we prank called somebody, I mean 885 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: that was totally different. There's some y hows there, but yeah, 886 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: Brent Barry, Brent Barry actually on the call. I'd totally 887 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: forgotten about. Brent Barry gave him a list of things 888 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: to do, yeah, and meowing was one of them. So 889 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to squeeze that in there. I didn't 890 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: think i'd be as big of a brave supporter as 891 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: I am now, but yeah, to see the young guys 892 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: in there and up and down the roster. The defense 893 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: had Matt Olson first baseman, running away from the infield 894 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: and catching a ball over his shoulder this week. I 895 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: didn't know he was a two time gold Glover, but 896 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: he is damn good. Listen, so many guys that are good. 897 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: But I am looking forward to some Baltimore Orioles baseball, Brady, 898 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: because you got me, you got me interested. I want 899 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: to thank you for coming on. Any any last words 900 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: before you go, I'm gonna. 901 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 5: Put it out there. This is this is my hot 902 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 5: of state. 903 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 4: I'm thinking it in the next three within the next 904 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 4: three or four years, is a world series coming coming 905 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: back to Baltimore. May not win it, but it's definitely 906 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 4: coming back to Baltimore. 907 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 5: All right, next rae or four years. 908 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: I like it. Not sizzling hot, not saying they are 909 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: going to be world champions, but at least. 910 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 5: Oh, they're coming, They're coming. 911 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: All right. I appreciate it. It's tough. It's a tough 912 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: al least I'll be I'll be watching. Really appreciate you 913 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: coming on, Brady. 914 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 5: No, appreciate it, man, Thank you for having me. 915 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem at all. All right, stay tuned. We've 916 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: got a very inconsequential pull to update you on after 917 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: the break. Welcome back to no Buns. Unfortunately, we didn't 918 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: do this live this week because we had to line 919 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: up a couple of interviews and all that TV production stuff, 920 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,479 Speaker 1: So I missed the fan engagement of doing this show 921 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: live with the Bleacher creatures. And to satiate that desire, 922 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: I put a poll up on Twitter asking about video 923 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 1: reviews because I watched a lot of baseball this weekend. 924 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: And in baseball, when a manager calls for a video review, 925 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: he puts his hands over his ears, he cups his 926 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: hands like he's pretending like he doesn't want to hear something. 927 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: Basically he's putting on that he's asking the umpire to 928 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: put on the headset. While in basketball we see the 929 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: sort of the figure round and round, the circle of 930 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: the wagons, the home run, which is obviously ironic here 931 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: now we put it up on the No Dunks Twitter account. 932 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: A lot of basketball fans out there, and I say 933 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: that because the basketball fans destroyed the baseball fans. Basically 934 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: ninety ten here, eighty eight point eight to eleven point three. 935 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't add up, but that's what it says. Here 936 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: on the pole, the finger round and round one out now, 937 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: watching baseball this weekend, I kind of enjoy the hands 938 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: over the ears. Maybe it's because I know what's coming. Yeah, 939 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 1: it's just there's just one signal, right, the cans, the cans. 940 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 4: I like. 941 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: I like the cans. 942 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 7: Let's put on the cans. 943 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I don't know, the finger around around 944 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it doesn't really, it doesn't make a 945 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: lot of sense. I mean, let's I guess it's like, 946 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: let's roll it back. Maybe, but sure, I you roll 947 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: it back. Yeah, I guess that's what it is. 948 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 7: I guess, But it could literally mean anything I gather 949 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 7: around guys or whatever, like wrap it up, let's go, 950 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 7: you know, something like that. 951 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: But maybe because it's I don't like it because it's 952 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: it brings back trauma for me having to watch the 953 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: referees watch the video screen in the NBA, while in 954 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: baseball it's just the umpire puts on the cans and 955 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: gets told from wherever they're making this decision in some 956 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: room somewhere, this is how it's going done, and done 957 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: is so we don't have to see even though you 958 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: know it takes a while. That's that's sort of the 959 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: beauty of baseball, because baseball takes a while. As it 960 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: is the video review doesn't really feel all that out 961 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: of place. We're watching where at least we're when we're 962 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: watching the video replay of the call, we're watching action 963 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: in baseball, and it literally is I know, it's it 964 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 1: happened already, but it is a form of action instead 965 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: of just pitch pitch, pitch, pitch pitch. Hey, listen, it 966 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 1: looks like it sounds like I'm ridiculing baseball, but I enjoyed. 967 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it this weekend. I also enjoyed that it's 968 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: always just the manager that has to call for it, 969 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: like we're all waiting for the one person to do 970 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: that one symbol, one signal that is universally known, unlike basketball, 971 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: where it's like player does this, and I know players 972 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: sort of do it in baseball, but they're they're all 973 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: kind of we all know what's coming. I don't know, 974 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: it's just a little bit more streamlined again in baseball. Yeah, 975 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: one person is that one person and again it's umpires 976 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: don't look at a screen. So yeah, I'm kind of 977 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: talking about the whole video review process in totality, but 978 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 1: they kind of have a down in baseball, even though 979 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: they need robo umps. That's the problem. But I'm surprised 980 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: with the poll results here. I think if we did 981 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: this life and the bleacher creatures were chiming in, we 982 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: would have got a lot more. Yeah, hands over ears. 983 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 7: It's ultimately we are tweeting this from a basketball shows 984 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 7: Twitter account. Yes, of course, they just see the basketball emoji, 985 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 7: like I vote for that one. 986 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they may have not even ever seen a baseball game, 987 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: to be honest. 988 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 7: Well when I read that, I've actually never seen the cans. 989 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 990 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 7: In fact, I thought it was like like this when 991 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 7: you said hands over ears, like this, like I'm listening 992 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 7: like like Dumbo Years, you know, or yeah, like let's listen. 993 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 1: In and oh I didn't know, I've never seen it before. 994 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, let's put it on and have a 995 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: look Dumbo Years. That's funny. Yeah, you're doing like a 996 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: bit of the the Hull Cogan. Yeah, like, yeah, exact, 997 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: very funny. All right, all right, good stuff. Speaking of basketball, 998 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: we will have a basketball show this week, first time 999 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: in a long time. A couple shows on Tuesday. There 1000 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: will be a no dunks, talking about the KD saga, 1001 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: a Christmas Day schedule, some uniforms. There will also be 1002 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: a no breaks where we discuss Driven, the movie starring 1003 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone. I'm going to join Trey and Gigi and 1004 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: Graydon to discuss that there will be in Is This Good, 1005 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: which is dropping Wednesday with Mattio and Steph Thursday, so 1006 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: packed four days here, Monday, a couple shows Tuesday, and 1007 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: then Is This Good on Wednesday. Still bringing you the 1008 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: heat and no baseball playing attention, But for now we 1009 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: shall go. Hope you enjoyed no buns today. Clipper Bros. 1010 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 5: You heard it here first. 1011 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 7: Have a great time, turn up, Love you guys awesome. 1012 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember ringworm is not pinworms. 1013 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: Do google that much like Kevin fourty e, do not 1014 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: google that. We'll see you next time.