1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: The guys are off today, but you've got me. I'm 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Tutor Dixon from the Tutor Dixon Podcast and I'm coming 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: to you live from the Wood Radio Studios in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: We have a big show for you today and we 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: are starting with the US Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: The Secretary is here to talk about affordability and President 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: Trump's economic agenda. 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: Welcome, Secretary Lutnik. 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: Great to be here with you. 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you because we have such 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: good news in the economy right now. We have lower 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: prices on gas, energy, prescription drugs, the interest rate is lower. 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: But I want to talk to you because we still 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: see signs that consumer confidence is low. 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: How do we stop that? How do we change that? 19 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: What's happening there? 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: Well, so you start with at least people have energy 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: prices down, So gas prices are down. But what we 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: going to focus on this year is getting the price 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: of electricity in people's houses down. See, people are worried 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: about it's if they see a big data center being 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: built in their neighborhood to think it, holy cap this 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: data center is going to suck up all the energy, 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: and my price of my running my house is going 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: to go up. So what we're going to do is 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: we're going to require that these data centers give the 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: famous word, give give ten percent of their power to 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: the local grid to drive down the price of electricity. 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 4: So every one of these data centers, instead of becoming 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: a bad thing for the community, becomes a party for 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 4: the community. And that's the way we're going to turn 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 4: this hard so that not only are gas prices down, 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: but electricity prices down. So that's one example of the 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: way we're thinking about this. 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I like that, but we are freaked out because 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: of what the Democrats did with all of this energy. 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: We have very little supply in states like Michigan where 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: I am they. 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we had the Trump administration save the. 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: Power plant that actually powers my neighborhood because they wanted 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: to shut it down. How do we reverse all of 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: these years of damage from this fake climate story. 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: They had the. 47 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: Right. We have gas, possibly the most in the world, 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: and we have oil, and you know what, China's got 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: They got only coal. They don't have gas, and they 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: don't have oil. So what they did is they the 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 4: Chinese created this narrative that, you know, let's be environmental 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: because what they were doing is they were suckering us 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: because we have gas and we have oil. So let's 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: get us to start doing electric cars. Why because they 55 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: make batteries and we do not. I mean, how stupid 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: is that? How about My favorite is Europe. They currently 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: think they need to go to all electric cars by 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: twenty thirty and they don't even make a battery. They're 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: going to make themselves subservient to the Chinese. So dumb. 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 4: So thank god we've got President Trump and the White 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: House who understands it and is quickly changing it. So 62 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: that's why we are going all in our drill, baby drill. 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: We're going to get gas pipelines rolling again. Right. We 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: are building as fast as we can these gas turbines, 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: and we are going to open clean, beautiful coal. Right. 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: These are the moves that are our assets. I mean, 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: if we're the richest country in the world, right, why 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: would we It's like we're the fastest runner in the world. 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: Yet we're trying to run the race holding our right 70 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: hand on our right ankle. I mean, it's just dopey, 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 4: right like Biden closed right Alaska, where we have six 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty five million acres of oil, as much 73 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: oil as Saudi Arabia. We have got to use our 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: assets and the power and strains of America to drive 75 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: down the cost of energy here to make sure America 76 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: stays the richest country in the world. And as I said, 77 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: thank goodness, got Donald Trump in the White House who 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: understands it, and you got people in this cabinet who 79 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: really understand it and are going to drive this home. 80 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: And you're going to see this during his term. He 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: thinks in terms of this term. 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: Now, okay, so let me ask you this. When I 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: was in manufacturing and we were shipping casting and steel 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: castings all across the United States of America, suddenly the 85 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: cost of gas goes way up and we put. 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: Surg charges on our products. 87 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: And then we bring those surcharges down as the price 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: of gas goes down and the product becomes less expensive. 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: So I keep being told, doesn't matter what the price 90 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: of gas is the products. Now that the retailers have 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: the products at a certain price, they're going to stay 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: at that price. 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: Why is it not that we're. 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: Going to see as the cost of goods shipping across 95 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: the country goes down in price. 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: Why can't we see those prices go down. 97 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: It's all about capitalism and competition. If there's no competition, 98 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: the price is going to stay high and the guy's 99 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: going to make more mone Right. If we've got competition, 100 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: someone will say, look, my costs are lower, I'm going 101 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: to sell it lower. And that's that's the beauty of capitalism. Right. 102 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 4: We've got to make it so that we bring manufacturing home, 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: we bring competitive manufacturing home. 104 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 5: Not only does it produce. 105 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: The jobs, right, and both the construction jobs and the 106 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 4: operating jobs, but it brings more production here, which creates 107 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: that competition, which drives down those prices. And so when 108 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 4: the President says he's got eighteen trillion dollars eighteen trillion 109 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: committed to build in America, what you're going to see 110 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 4: is you saw four point three percent this quarter. Right. 111 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: Next quarter is going to be a little weird because 112 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 4: we had the shutdown. I don't know how that affects things, 113 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: but you're going to see next year. I think I 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: called it this year I said you were going to 115 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: cross four. I think next year we cross five, and 116 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 4: we've got a good shot following it. Across six percent 117 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: GDP growth. That means we're going to be growing. The 118 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 4: growth of the United States of America will equal or 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 4: be bigger than virtually every other country in the world. 120 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 6: What does that mean to the average person, Well, if 121 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 6: you think about it from the average person, it means 122 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 6: more jobs, higher wages, more jobs and higher wages, and. 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: It fixes you know, the overall the company and the 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: fixes are deficit, so the president can bring down taxes. 125 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: If you think about it, it's this kind of growth 126 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: that allowed him to say no tax on tips, no 127 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security. These 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: people don't feel that yet. They won't feel it truth 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: until April. Right, you're working for tips and you're working 130 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: for overtime. You know it sounds good like you heard 131 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: it on TV. But when does it hit my pocket? 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: You know, when it hits your pocket April. So what 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: you want to do is you want to have me 134 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: on this radio show at the end of April when 135 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: it's everybody's happy because they finally got the checks in 136 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 4: their pockets one thousand, two thousand dollars in their pocket 137 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: and they see how President Trump is delivering for them. 138 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: So we've got to get electricity prices down. We've got 139 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: to drive interest rates now because this this housing crap 140 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: with you know, Jay Powell kept the interest rates too high. 141 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: Why is the greatest economy in the world, with the greatest, 142 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: greatest credit in the world, paying like the thirtieth highest 143 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: interest rate in the world. 144 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: I heard the President yesterday saying he doesn't know if 145 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: he's made a decision on firing him yet or not. 146 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: Well, he's deeply thinking about it because the guy, you know, 147 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: did a disaster with building the building for four billion dollars, 148 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: which was like totally you know, ripping off America. Spend 149 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: it's four billion dollars on some building where economists live. 150 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: You got to be kidne me. But the answer is 151 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: he has no matter which way he plays it. By May, 152 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: he's going to have a new chairman of the FED, 153 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: and that new Chairman of the Fed's job is going 154 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: to be to get the interest rates fairly where they 155 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: should be. Why is everyone else in the world paying 156 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: two percent and we're paying four Why and what you 157 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: know what that does. That's what Biden did. He took 158 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: when Donald Trump left office first time whome buyers, their 159 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: age was thirty three. Makes some sense now after Biden's 160 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: ridiculous runaway inflation, it's forty years old. WHOA, that's cral Like, 161 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: imagine the first average first time home buyer in America 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 4: is forty as. They're unhappy because what they feel is 163 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: like the American dream has been stolen from them. Right, 164 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 4: they got ripped off when they went to college, right, 165 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: they got charged again. They come out of college with 166 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 4: two hundred thousand dollars of student loans, right, and they 167 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: don't get a rocking job when you graduate college. So 168 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: like that dream has treated them unfairly. It didn't really 169 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: train them to get the great jobs. And then because 170 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: we took away like shop class and we took pray, 171 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 4: the ability for real people to work with their hands, 172 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: real people to have those great jobs. Is bringing those 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: great jobs back. And we are going to do the 174 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: greatest training program in the history of America because you know, 175 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: automation and advanced manufacturing is coming to America. You know 176 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: what that advanced manufacturing needs. It needs technicians, right, it 177 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: needs people who understand how to fix bi tech products. 178 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: Jobs start at seventy five grand, go up to one 179 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty grand, two hundred grand, and that does 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: not require a marketing degree from some college. 181 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: I mean, we're already there. And this is what this 182 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: is what I've told people. 183 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: If you go to any machine shop in this country, 184 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: you are going to see a environment that is clean, 185 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: that is automated, that is a good work environment, great benefits, 186 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: and you're going to be able to run your job 187 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: from your cell phone, from a computer. These are not 188 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: the jobs of the past that people think of. But 189 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: how do we convince the American people of that? And 190 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: as we're talking about this, and we're talking about bringing 191 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: manufacturing back to the United States, and obviously that's where 192 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: my heart has always been. I think that there is 193 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: an opportunity for those big ticket items to go down 194 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: in price. You talk about capitalism, but I'm hearing the 195 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: Big Three, I'm hearing the automotive industry saying that bringing 196 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: these having these tariffs, bringing these companies back to the 197 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: United States is actually going to allow us to get 198 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: lower prices on our cars. Do you think that's going 199 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: to happen? 200 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: It's definitely going to happen. It's absolutely going to happen 201 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: because now you've got everybody's got to build here. And 202 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 4: look at what happened to the Big three automakers when 203 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: Donald Trump started this process. They were worried and afraid 204 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: because what happened is we had exported our jobs. I mean, 205 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 4: imagine treating Mexico and Canada like their Alabama in Georgia, 206 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: so you could just drive across the border back and forth, 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: back and forth. So of course the automakers they went 208 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: to Mexico. You can break the union and you can 209 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: get cheap Mexican labor, right, and not the same jobs. 210 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: It's just it was ridiculous how Clinton did that. It 211 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: was crazy town. So Donald Trump fixes it, says, you've 212 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: got to build in America. Right, they're gonna be great 213 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: jobs people in America. But more importantly, everybody's got to 214 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: build in America. The competition's going to be insane, and 215 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: we're going to drive the price of cars down. That's 216 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: the whole idea. Plus, if you want to buy a 217 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: car and you want to finance the car, it's deductible. 218 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: Because Donald Trump understands that that's a good way to 219 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: make it cheaper for people to buy cars. So I 220 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 4: think car prices are gonna come down. But the most 221 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 4: exciting thing, like I flew out to Arizona to this 222 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: semiconductive plant. Then we're gonna have five hundred to seven 223 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: hundred billion dollars of semiconductive plants being built in America. 224 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 4: There was a twenty billion dollar factory, the sexiest looking 225 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: factory you've ever seen in your life. Three thousand people 226 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: working there, all technicians, right, all people working with their hands. 227 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: And I and interviewed these guys and sat with them, 228 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: and they said, I have the greatest job. And I said, 229 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: what's your job? He goes. I'm officially a pipefitter, he goes. 230 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: But my job is tetris he goes. I's the most 231 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: sophisticated pipe fitting in the history of the world. This 232 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: is the most complex, most exciting job. I love my job. 233 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: And that was the example, right, the guy and I said, 234 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: how much to make? He goes. I got hired at 235 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: seventy five and now make a bucket a quarter. Right, 236 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: I have the best job. Every day I come to 237 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: work and I love what I do because it's the 238 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: most complex, but it's exactly what I want to do. 239 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: All right, this is the job that are coming. 240 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I hey, I hear it. I appreciate it. 241 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: I see it here in the state of Michigan. I 242 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: think people are seeing it all across the country and 243 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: we are looking forward to a wonderful twenty twenty six 244 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: with this administration. The United States Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik, 245 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being on. 246 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: The show today. Great being here, and thank you all. 247 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: Stick around. 248 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: We're going to be talking midterms with former Trump campaign 249 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: and our NC political director James Blair will be right back. 250 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is. 251 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Just find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. 253 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Clay and Bucks Show. I am 254 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: Tutor Dixon and I'm guest hosting today. I have Kyle 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: Olsen with me from The Midwesterner. Read that at the 256 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: Midwesterner that news, and I want to jump right into 257 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: police drones. I don't know if you guys have heard 258 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: about these police drones. 259 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: They're out there and all over. 260 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: Actually I saw it in the Wall Street Journal and 261 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: I just kind of started like going down this rabbit 262 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: hole of what exactly is a police drone. And apparently 263 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: they're out in California. They're going to the beach. They 264 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: have lights, they come up and talk to you, they 265 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: fly over you, and they tell you to get off 266 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: the beach, but they can actually give you a ticket. 267 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: So then as I'm like digging deeper into this and 268 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: finding out that these are in Cincinnati, they're in Louisiana, 269 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking this is the type of thing that 270 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: Kyle would tell me to think deeper about, to be 271 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: worried about. 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 7: Well, I think so, because it really gets to the 273 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 7: police state, and we're seeing this across the country, whether 274 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 7: it's these drones, which you know, I would argue are 275 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: violating private property rights because they're just crossing. 276 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: But so I want to say, the crazy thing about 277 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: this is because you say that there was this guy quoted. 278 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: He's from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a foundation I've obviously 279 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: never heard of, Beryl lipped in and he says there 280 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: are so few restrictions on police drones when it comes 281 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: to citizen privacy because the technology is so new. 282 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: So that to me is. 283 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 7: Scary too, right, And we're seeing in a lot of 284 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 7: these States. The technologies developing, but the laws are not 285 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 7: keeping up with the technology. And we're seeing this also 286 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 7: when it comes to speed cameras, red light cameras. You 287 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 7: know here in Michigan we have historically we have not 288 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 7: had red light cameras and speed cameras. But what the 289 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 7: politicians will do is because they want to control our lives, 290 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 7: they will say, well, we just we want to have 291 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 7: speed cameras, but we just want them to protect people. 292 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 7: So we're only going to put them in construction zones, 293 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 7: or we're only going to put them in school zones. 294 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 7: But then, of course that's how they start the law, 295 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 7: and then it expands from there. 296 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: Wear a mask, stay six feet apart. It's only for 297 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: fifteen days. I mean, they use fear to control you. 298 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: That we've seen this before with COVID. That's exactly how 299 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: they controlled what we're going to do. This to me 300 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: is so much bigger because they're like, this is great. 301 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: It's first responders. They're going out and they're making sure 302 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: that if you have a gunfight, suddenly there's a police 303 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: drone there. They can get through the traffic faster, they 304 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: can get to the fight faster. Well, wait a minute, 305 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: what are they doing once they get there? Are they 306 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: just monitoring? Are they just recording? And then at some 307 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: point are they going to be weaponized? I know that 308 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: sounds insane, but we use drones for that kind of thing, 309 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: So how do we know they're not going to be 310 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: weaponized at some point? And then we get into AI 311 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: and pre crime and all of these things that freak 312 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: me out. In the past, we talked to a group 313 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: when I was running for office. We talked to a 314 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: group that wanted to do this type of thing in 315 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: schools where they're monitoring every face, and then every face 316 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: they don't recognize, they go, oh, that could be somebody 317 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: that's going to plan a crime in the school, and 318 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: they prey on the parents' fear, like, oh, I don't 319 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: want to shoot her in my school. So yeah, I 320 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: do want this. I want everybody monitored. But at a 321 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: certain point are we all monitored? Are we all going 322 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: to be watched? At a certain point do we say 323 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: we're not going to allow ourselves to be facial recognition AI, 324 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: police drones, weaponized drones out on the streets with our kids. 325 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: We just got to be aware of this. We got 326 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: to watch what's happening. Stay tuned, We're going to be 327 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: back with fraud in Ohio. 328 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 8: Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines. Welcome 329 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 8: back to. 330 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: The Clay and Buck Show. I'm Tutor Dixon. 331 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: I'm guest hoping hosting today and I'm coming to you 332 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: live from the Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 333 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: Our next guest has actually joined me on the Tutor 334 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: Dixon podcast in the Clan Buck podcast network, and you've 335 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: seen her all over TV. She is attorney and Republican 336 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: strategist Maheck Cook. Maheck, Welcome to the program. 337 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 5: Tudor, thank you so much for having me. 338 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: I am so excited because you are in Ohio most 339 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: of the time. I don't think you're in Ohio right now, 340 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: but most of the time you're in Ohio, and right 341 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: now social media is buzzing with these fraud videos. You've 342 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: been talking about what's going on in Ohio, we're seeing 343 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: it in Minnesota. 344 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: I don't think. 345 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: People are as aware of what's going on around the country, 346 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: but it's happening in Ohio. 347 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 3: To tell us what you've seen. 348 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: There, So Tudor, you know, honestly, once the Minnesota fraud 349 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 5: had been exposed, many people started coming to me and 350 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 5: say the same things happening in Ohio, And with very 351 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 5: easy research, I was able to detect that we have 352 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 5: the second largest Somalian population and they're concentrated in Columbus. 353 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 5: There has been years of claims, whether it was fraud 354 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 5: through home health care services or daycare centers, and so 355 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 5: several of the whistleblowers came to me and said that 356 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 5: they had reported broad and nothing has happened, and they 357 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: provided me with evidences. And I looked into this and 358 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 5: realized that there is alleged fraud with individuals claiming that 359 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 5: they need home health services. So you could be somebody 360 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 5: who decides to take your aging parent in in the 361 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: state of Ohio and be a home health care provider. 362 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: You can earn between I would say seventy to ninety 363 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: thousand dollars, depending on how many hours you qualify for 364 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 5: and how many hours of quote care your parent needs. 365 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: But most of these parents aren't getting the care according 366 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: to these providers. They don't qualify for home help because 367 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 5: they don't have the medical condition that's necessary. And when 368 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: the home health providers would push back on these unnamed sources, 369 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: I can't disclose it. They would say, well, we're going 370 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 5: to shop for a doctor that will rubber stand my 371 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: paperwork because we've had it before and we're going to 372 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: get it again. And I think that this fraud is rampant. 373 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 5: And when you have a welfare system that's not actually auditing, 374 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: but not making sure that people actually need the services 375 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: that are really meant for Ohioans that are disabled, with 376 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 5: kids with autism, you can fill in the blank on 377 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 5: the people that need services, and it's being taken by 378 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: a minority of people that are abusing the system, Well, 379 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: you get fraud. And Minnesota was just the tip of 380 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 5: the sphere. If you continue to see every state needs 381 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: to audit their welfare program. I don't think it's being 382 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 5: done today, and it's clearly being exposed all over social media. 383 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: There's so much to say here too, because the reason 384 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: it doesn't always get audited is because there's this radical media. 385 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: There's these radical electives who are like, you can't say 386 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: that people can't get this welfare. This is critical, but 387 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: it's hurting, as you pointed out so importantly, it is 388 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: hurting the people of Ohio. It is hurting the people 389 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: of the United States who deserve these services. When I 390 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: traveled around our state, it was amazing the number of 391 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: people who said, we can't get the home healthcare money 392 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: that we were expecting. And these are people who have 393 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: loved ones who are quadriplegics, who can't take care of themselves. 394 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: They have true medical conditions and they can't get it. 395 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: But these folks in Ohio, in Minnesota, they're taking this money. 396 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: Is this a state by state issue or is this 397 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: something the federal government can get involved in? 398 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 5: So I think we need a twofold approach. I think 399 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 5: we need to audit America state by state. We need 400 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: to work with the federal government. We need actual forensic 401 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 5: auditors to come in because I don't trust the states 402 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 5: to actually do their job. Look at what Minnesota's doing. 403 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: They're actually denying fraud after massive evidence of it. We 404 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: have ninety nine people that have been indicted through pam 405 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 5: Body and the DOJ, so I don't trust dates. I 406 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: think federal government needs to create another division in my opinion, 407 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: and the DOJ. Plenty of attorneys have reached out to 408 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 5: me personally to say, we will do this for free, 409 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: to expose the fraud. We will do the leg work. 410 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: We want to make sure this money returns to taxpayers 411 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: who need it, and You're right, it's heartbreaking. I can't 412 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: tell you how many people have reached out and said, 413 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 5: my mother needs care, she has cancer, my wife filled 414 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 5: the blank, and I've been able to provide them at 415 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: least with good doctors and providers that will actually assess 416 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: their parents and help them through the process. That's what 417 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 5: we're supposed to be doing, not just handing it over 418 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 5: to a group of people that were put on us 419 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 5: in the nineties, massive communities that never assimilated but turned 420 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 5: out to gain the system. And I'm tired of the 421 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 5: word racist tutor. Today it's about I don't care what 422 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 5: you look like, I don't care what you sound like. 423 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: If you come to the United States, you better follow 424 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: our rule of law, and if you don't, you need 425 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 5: to leave. I think two words for people today. If 426 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 5: you are committing and you aren't a US citizen or 427 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 5: you're not a taxpayer, get out. That's what I want 428 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: in this country. I want our money to return back 429 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 5: to taxpayers who deserve it. So every state needs to 430 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 5: work with the federal government. Any state who doesn't decide 431 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 5: to audit that tells you everything you need to know 432 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 5: that they are hiding something. 433 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, think about it. 434 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: When Governor Walls was running his failed vice presidential campaign, 435 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: he was out there saying, we're leading, we're leading in 436 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: home healthcare, we're leading in childcare, in the state funding childcare. 437 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: And now we find out billions of dollars went back 438 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 2: to Somalia. It seems to be a lot of Somali communities. 439 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: Why so widespread? I mean, this isn't It's very weird 440 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: to me. It's Minnesota, it's Maine, it's Ohio. It's like 441 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: not a climate that's similar to Somalia. What is happening here? 442 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 5: Well, a lot of these individuals, again, we didn't process 443 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 5: them one by one to see if they're going to 444 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 5: add value to the United States of America. We allowed 445 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 5: them to come in on asylum and refugee status, and 446 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 5: they came in in groups, and then they figured out 447 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: what states had a low bar for home health networks daycares, 448 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 5: and they'd come in and drove. They haven't assimilated. And 449 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: my biggest problem today is as they're committing fraud, as 450 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 5: they're committing violations, we're not having state enforcement. We're not 451 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 5: having auditing. And everybody claims that, well, you can't target 452 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: one community, Well you certainly can. If it's happening in 453 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 5: just one community, then you've got to take the stuff seriously. 454 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: I mean, not assimilating is like an understatement. 455 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: You've got people who are elected officials who are openly 456 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: in campaign videos talking about how they have to take 457 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: care of their home country, our country which they are 458 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: referring to Somalia. Sometimes they catch themselves and say our 459 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: former country. But they're still campaigning on sending money to Somalia, 460 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: not on taking care of the community here. How is 461 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: it possible that these people get elected with the message 462 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: of we're sending money to another country, we're getting into 463 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: the US government to take care of Somalia. 464 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: Ohio representative. If mel Muhammad actually has a video and 465 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 5: it is going now viral, he is Somalian in Ohio 466 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: got elected and he has a video saying that they 467 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 5: have a group chat ilhan Omar is part of this 468 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 5: many others. I haven't seen the chat, clearly not Samalians. 469 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 5: Don't know who else is a part of it, but 470 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 5: he is alleging that their main goal is to fight 471 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 5: for Somalia to help Somalian debt and to send money back. 472 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 5: And when you look at his district, most of the 473 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 5: Somalians live there. I haven't gone through his FEC filings 474 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 5: yet to see what type of election donations he gets, 475 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: but I think common sense without even looking would tell 476 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: you that the majority of the Somalian community obviously voted 477 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 5: for him if they were in the district, and then 478 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: they sent money to his campaign. I mean, we are 479 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 5: being infiltrated by people who don't want to assimilate and 480 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 5: who hate America, like Ilhan Omar. And this is just 481 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 5: now the national narrative that we're fighting in the Democrat Party. 482 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: But we allowed it. I mean both administrations have allowed 483 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: for asylum claims and refugee I practice immigration law, and 484 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 5: I can tell you when you continue to just let 485 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 5: people say the word asylum without investigation, that's when fraud starts. 486 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: That's when we start a welfare system that's not actually 487 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 5: taking care of American taxpayers. 488 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: Well, we also allowed this sympathetic attitude toward people who 489 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: openly said that they were here because they hate America 490 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: and they want to take it over. And that's something 491 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: that is is we've heard from Ilhan Omar. And in fact, 492 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: that video that you're talking about, I'm pretty sure that 493 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: the guy you're talking about in the video, the elected 494 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: official in Ohio refers to Congresswoman Omar as their representative 495 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: at the federal level, like the Somalian representative at the federal. 496 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 5: One hundred percent right. And to come to this country 497 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: to represent us and then to turn turn your backs 498 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: on American taxpayers and say we're here to represent Somalia. 499 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 5: I mean again, this is the infiltration of a community 500 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: that does not want to work for the best interests 501 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: of American taxpayers. And I think voters are waking up today. 502 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: And part of it is because we were drowning under 503 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: Joe Biden's inflation, inability to afford gas, groceries, baby formula, 504 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 5: and milk, you name it. And so many people at 505 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: least in Ohio that are reaching out to me or 506 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 5: saying we can barely afford a lot of the things 507 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 5: through the previous administration. Thank God for President Trump, But 508 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: how is it that Somalians are getting our tax dollars 509 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: and I can't take care of my aging parents. So 510 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 5: I think the hypocrisy is what's going to tank the Democrats. 511 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 5: We have to be smarter, we have to be stronger 512 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: as a voting base. But I also think Tutor it 513 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 5: comes down to if elected officials will not do these audits, 514 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 5: we're not going to need to get the Trump administration 515 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: involved in every single state elon divid on a federal level. 516 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 5: So ask for it on the state level. Ask to 517 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 5: the federal partnership. I know that this president is transparent 518 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 5: and willing to fight. We have a national debt that 519 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: is in the trillions of dollars. This is the only 520 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: way to fight it. Weed out illegals, broadways to abuse. 521 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 522 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing and thank you for 523 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: fighting every day. Attorney and Republican strategists based in Ohio, 524 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: maheck Cook, thank you for being here. 525 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 5: Thanks so much. 526 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: As we listen to this, I mean, it is shocking, 527 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: it's stunning. I want to hear what you guys think 528 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: about this, So I want you to call in. 529 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 3: The number is eight hundred. 530 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: Two eight two two eight eight to two, call in 531 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: so we can hear your thoughts. I mean, I want 532 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: to hear, Kyle what they have to say about the 533 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: police drones that we talked about earlier too. So when 534 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 2: we went to commercial everybody, it's like, that's terrifying to 535 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: think that we're going to have police drones all over 536 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: we are being monitored by police. This is not being 537 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: monitored again, call in, it's eight hundred two eight two 538 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: eight two. Tell us what you think. But isn't that 539 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: shocking to you when you hear this compared to what 540 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: we just said about the police drums? 541 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 7: Well, and I think people have legitimate questions about Okay, 542 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 7: this is being uncovered and it's taking citizen journalists to 543 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 7: uncover it. Now, what's going to be done? Is the 544 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 7: state going to do an investigation? In Ohio? For example? 545 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 7: Is Mike Dwine the governor of Ohio? Is what is 546 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 7: he going to do? 547 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: What is the legislature sure the governor of Minnesota to 548 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: resign because it seems as though he's been somewhat complicit 549 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: in this. 550 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 7: There's no question about that. There's no question because the 551 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 7: situation with Minnesota, it was talked about in twenty eighteen 552 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 7: and Kamala Harris when she vetted him, she knew that 553 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 7: this was a problem and she went with him anyway 554 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 7: because I think that they are they're indifferent to it. 555 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 7: They use this money to buy votes, to win districts, 556 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 7: to win elections, to register people to vote. This is 557 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 7: how this is one of the ways that they're winning 558 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 7: and it and it needs to be exposed and people 559 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 7: need to be held accountable. And I agree with her. 560 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 7: When states aren't going to do something, the Trump administration 561 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 7: has to do something. These these problems are being exposed. 562 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 7: There needs to be accountability. People want to see accountability. 563 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: It's just interesting to me because people pushed back so 564 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: hard on Doje, They were anti Elon. 565 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: They they thought he was moving too fast. I think 566 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: it had to happen. 567 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: I think he had to do what he did to 568 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: prepare our minds to see what this is. 569 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 7: But I don't know that our minds are prepared because 570 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 7: we're seeing billions and billions of dollars in Minnesota. Well 571 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 7: what is what is a significantly bigger state that probably 572 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 7: is worse California? And how do we even can we 573 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 7: even wrap our minds around the amount of potential fraud 574 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 7: that are that's happening in places like California. 575 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: Can you even get into a state like California that's 576 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: so protected by Democrats. 577 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: I mean, they've got they've got registration, same day registration. 578 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: They've got ballot harvesting. 579 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they have it so protected that it is 580 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: Democrat land and you can't get in. We want to 581 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: know what you think. We're gonna go to a break, 582 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: but we want you to call in. It's eight hundred 583 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: two eight two two eight eight two call us. We'll 584 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: be right back with your audience answers and questions after this. 585 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: Do you guys walk up to a micy anything goes 586 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck sext to find them on the 587 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 588 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 589 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: I am Tutor Dixon from the Tutor Dixon Podcast alongside 590 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: Kyle Olsen from the Midwestern Dot News, and we are 591 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: coming to you live from the Wood Radio Studios in 592 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: Grand Rapids, Michigan. Kyle, we want to take some audience 593 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: questions about what we've been talking about. So just a reminder, 594 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: we've been talking about police drones, and we've been talking 595 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: about this fraud coming out of Ohio. And it looks 596 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: like we've got Cheryl calling from Wisconsin. 597 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: So let's take Cheryl. Cheryl, what's up? What do you 598 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: want to talk about. 599 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 9: You know, I am so disgusted. I am so sick 600 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 9: when to just learn about something like this, all of 601 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 9: us that live day to day have no idea what 602 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 9: is going on until somebody like Nicholas Shirley. Thank god 603 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 9: for this guy who is joining us. I'll tell you 604 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 9: right now. President Trunk needs to get this guy on 605 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 9: his team. This is amazing, but it's also it's sickening 606 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 9: what these people have done to our country to not 607 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 9: even investigate these these businesses that have dark windows. 608 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: And I mean, but to think that this kid just 609 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: walked up. I mean, that's all it took was for him. 610 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 7: And that's to me, that's what's so significant about it. 611 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 7: You know, you've got you have sixty Minutes, you have CNN, 612 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 7: you have all of these networks. They've got you know, 613 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 7: massive budgets and you know, highly experienced people and everything. 614 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 7: But then you have a citizen journalist that goes up 615 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 7: and just ask questions and exposes the truth. 616 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Cheryl, thank you so much for calling it. 617 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 2: We're hoping that the administration is listening and they are 618 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: going to do something. I want to bring Jim in 619 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: really quick from Florida because Jim. Jim sounds like he's 620 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: mad as well. 621 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, tut Or, how you doing. I hope you had 622 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 10: a merry. 623 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: Christmas, very merry Christmas. 624 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this. 625 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 10: I want that state penalized because I'm going to tell 626 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 10: you this, there's no way Elmer Fudd looking Waltz did 627 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 10: not know that was happening. And you know, and I 628 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 10: know he did because of the fact they always bring 629 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 10: up this racial clonent. They're afraid to confront the Somali community. 630 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 10: That's not my problem. I think taxes in Florida for 631 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 10: federal dollars to go to every state in this union, 632 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 10: and I want that money back for every citizen that 633 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 10: plays the fairway. 634 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: I want the money back. 635 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 10: And Jim, I don't know what more to say. 636 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: We agree, appreciate it, we agree, we appreciate you calling. 637 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, stay or stick around. 638 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: We're going to be back with our two of the Clay, 639 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: Travis and Buck Sexton Show in the meantime. While you're 640 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: in the break, find me on social media at Tutor 641 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: Dixon and subscribe to the Tutor Dixon podcast that's in 642 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck podcast Network. You can listen to 643 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: it wherever you listen to or watch your podcasts, but 644 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: stay right here. We're going to be back with more 645 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: of the Clay, Clay and Buck Show. Right here. 646 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 8: Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.