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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This

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Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with Me Lance Bass and my lovely

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Speaker 1: co host and happened to be a husband, Michael Turkey Turchin.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing good. Yeah. Yeah, let's introduce our guests.

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Speaker 3: Bride Austin Green is with us today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, legit teen Idol All right now, the show is

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Speaker 1: for the ultimate fans of teen Idols and Brian you

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Speaker 1: were the epitome of that in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: So what's really funny is in Sync was massive at

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Speaker 2: the time. My my niece Caitlin, you were her favorite,

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Speaker 2: like she does. Yeah, So it's funny to be talking

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Speaker 2: to somebody because I to me, we had such different

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Speaker 2: expperiences of it because from music to television. Sean and

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Speaker 2: I were just talking about this last night and I

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Speaker 2: was saying, how it's amazing that you got You know,

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Speaker 2: you went through massive stadiums being packed packed with people,

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Speaker 2: so you had that instant knowledge and gratification of like,

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Speaker 2: look at what we're doing. We were doing a show

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Speaker 2: that a ton of people were watching, but we were

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Speaker 2: shooting it in van eyes and case people were around. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we would see it every once in a while when

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Speaker 2: we go do personal appearances at malls and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But we had we both had these like crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because look, the experiences I will compare them to

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Speaker 1: didn't sink fans. They're just so passionate, so passionate. I

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Speaker 1: mean I loved nine O two one. I mean I was,

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Speaker 1: I guess junior high when that show was on, and

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Speaker 1: my sister was a huge I mean she was obsessed

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Speaker 1: with New Kids in nine o two one. Oh, so

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Speaker 1: that made me a fan of nine o two and

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Speaker 1: New Kids on the Block.

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Speaker 3: Uh, And it.

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Speaker 2: Was just it was a fun time.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why right now you're in this

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Speaker 1: crazy revival.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's like.

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Speaker 1: Have that nineties early two thousands because everyone wist to

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Speaker 1: remember the good times, the innocent times of their youth.

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Speaker 1: And now this new generation, which I'm sure you're seeing too,

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Speaker 1: gen z, Like it's like if we loved the fifties

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Speaker 1: part of our lives. These gen zs are really taking

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Speaker 1: in the music of the nineties, the TV of the nineties,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's all these new fans are being born.

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing that with your past shows too?

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Speaker 2: It's with all like that. I just did nineties con Oh.

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Speaker 3: God, that looks so fun.

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Speaker 2: It was so it was super fun. We were all

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Speaker 2: together as a cast, which is amazing that happens very rarely.

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Speaker 3: Especially Shannon too. Was so nice to see her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the fact that everybody was there, it

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Speaker 2: was amazing. And yeah, this whole like times coming back

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Speaker 2: around in the nineties being popular again is crazy. It's

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Speaker 1: Be funny because when I was living in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: I specifically remember thinking, this will never become popular again.

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Speaker 1: Like the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, they were so defined

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Speaker 2: But it's because we had no idea that, I mean

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Speaker 2: when my parents used to talk about, oh, the music

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Speaker 2: And now I do the same thing about the nineties, like,

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Speaker 2: oh the nineties, man, there was no music like there

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Speaker 2: was literally there was in the nineties. So true, but

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Speaker 2: I think living in the nineties, we had no idea

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Speaker 1: Everyone is so spread out and just has their own

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Speaker 2: And also everyone's connected now like before, like yeah, we

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Speaker 1: You could really control that narrative a lot more absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And what was great too is as a as a

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Speaker 2: Everybody was into it because you were only cool if

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Speaker 1: Everyone had to go to one place after school to

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Speaker 2: Love is so popular. This is whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: You wanted to be cool, You want to be in

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Speaker 1: This whole research has been great and I love things

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Speaker 1: It's still got that nineties look to it, but way

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Speaker 1: These companies are really taking advantage of like Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: It just it kind of reminds me of because you know,

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Speaker 2: Then the Taylor Simpler time and all that.

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Speaker 1: And it just reminds me because I went to the

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Speaker 1: I've always loved her, even you know, when she was

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Speaker 2: Is happening but I feel like there was a major

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Speaker 3: We are here at the Green Valley Ranch. Have you

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Speaker 2: I've never been to to this hotel before. It feels

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Speaker 2: it feels much more like adult and responsible. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: I mean we have you know your kids are a

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Speaker 2: One of you guys have two that are twins. So

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Speaker 2: Like I have five kids, which people here and they go,

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Speaker 3: We started with two, so like we don't know how

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Speaker 2: What's funny is looking back on it now. I remember

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important, especially the older they get

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Speaker 1: But when we do separate them and like, you know,

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Speaker 2: That's that's the big difference. You have to change up

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Speaker 2: then you're like, okay, bubble wrap everything and you literally

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a whole different it's.

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Speaker 3: A different third. But it's not working.

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Speaker 2: It's not right now to mess with a good thing.

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Speaker 2: We figured this out.

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Speaker 1: His main amazing is if we go to Disney, one

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Speaker 4: Everything set up for a flying in an airplane. Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of even numbers, and that just

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Speaker 3: We're one of it.

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Speaker 1: I get that because I agree with that. So we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna have to have two more. Huh okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're both right.

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Speaker 2: This isn't going well. I'm feeling I'm feeling.

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Speaker 3: I'm all for a third right now.

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Speaker 1: Until our kids are out of diapers and just use

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Speaker 2: No, it is. That is the toughest thing like to

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Speaker 2: My my older kids are much more self sufficient. They'll

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Speaker 2: of me realizing like, oh that's dad. Yeah, he hated that,

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00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: so he then crossed over into doing more studio stuff.

440
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: He played that like Sinatra and that's going to be tough.

441
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: And we discussed this too because hypothetically, if we do

442
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Speaker 1: go on another tour, right, what is that going to

443
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: look like with my two year old kids?

444
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: Your kids are old enough though, at this point where

445
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: they have that strong connection with you. I mean we're

446
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: talking about like I was an infant at the point

447
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: when so he would come home and he'd be excited

448
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: to see me, but I was totally turn around and

449
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: grab onto my one mom like ak and.

450
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: So, so it was music your first love, because.

451
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to school just for music. And then

452
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: I stumbled upon acting, because.

453
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: How did you get into acting?

454
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: I was going to a music academy on the thirty

455
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: second Street, uh that it was called thirty second Street

456
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: Cool School and it was on the USC campus. So

457
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 2: one of the kids that I rode the bus with, uh,

458
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: he was acting, and I thought it was so cool

459
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: because he always had like all these cool toys and

460
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: stuff on the bus. And I was like, you know,

461
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: are your parents rich? Like how did this happen? He

462
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, I do commercials. And I didn't understand.

463
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: To me, TV was like this magical box and people

464
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: that were in it were different from you, and I

465
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, you couldn't a normal person couldn't

466
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: be in that box. I ended up doing a few

467
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: student films with directors that that were going to USC studying,

468
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: and I kind of stumbled into it, and then it

469
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: just became so prominent in my life and it was

470
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: such a form of income, and it was like I

471
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: had to put music and all that stuff on hold

472
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: because I just didn't have time for it.

473
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: Well, it was a good thing because you stumbled upon.

474
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: Take us back to the moment you got cast in

475
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: nine o two and zero.

476
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: So the moment I got cast, it wasn't a big

477
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: moment I at that point in my life. In the

478
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: life of an actor, pilot season and doing a pilot

479
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: was part of what you did. You worked all year,

480
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: you tried to do commercials, and you tried to do

481
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: guest things, you know, guest appearances on different shows. And

482
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: then it was pilot season around like February, and everybody

483
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: would go and you book a pilot and you would

484
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 2: shoot a pilot and then it was like, okay, back

485
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: to the grind. And then all of a sudden you

486
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: get like, oh, okay, I've got nine more episodes to

487
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: do this thing. Oh that's cool. So nine two when

488
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: I was a pilot and it was one of I

489
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: had already done like thirteen At that point, I had

490
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: been acting. I started. I was in SAG when I

491
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: was nine years alf.

492
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 3: What was your first gig? What was your first I did?

493
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: It was a bank commercial that never aired, But I

494
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: remember I had been auditioning for things for like a

495
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: year and I hadn't booked anything, and I didn't get it.

496
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't understand how this works. And

497
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 2: then I booked my first commercial and that light bulb

498
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: moment happened in my head where I was like, oh,

499
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: I get what casting directors are looking for and how

500
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: it works. And from that moment on, I was booking

501
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: everything that I went. I did probably close to seventy commercials. Wow.

502
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: I ended up doing knots Landing this nighttime soap. I

503
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: did that for four and a half years, and I

504
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: was young. I was like ten and a half at

505
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: that point when I when I started doing that.

506
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine being that young in this business because

507
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: it's old business and you have to grow up quickly,

508
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: and I can imagine, especially you starting so young and

509
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: being on such a cultist show that you know, everyone

510
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: treats you like adults.

511
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 2: It was really It was really cool though for me,

512
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: like I with Not with Nott's Landing, I was I

513
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: was the only kid on a show with adults. It

514
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: was a nighttime soap, so every once in a while,

515
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 2: like every other episode, they would just prance my character

516
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: through the back because I was the son of one

517
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: of the leads on the show with show Bill Devane

518
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: was on, Ted Shackleford, Michelle Williams, Nicole Sheridan was on

519
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: who then went on to do Desk's House or n

520
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: So it was so cool to be there because I

521
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: would kind of sneak on set and watch how I was.

522
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: I would watch how they did it, and I was

523
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: kind of expected to be act as an adult, like

524
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: be professional. When I was education, I was a kid,

525
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: so I was doing set school and all the stuff

526
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: was so interesting. But I learned so much as a

527
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: kid doing it, and then I thank god I always

528
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: had a really strong moral compass from my parents. They

529
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: always just beat into my head and ingrain this concept

530
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: of you know, being professional and being kind to people

531
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: that were around, and their their focus was much more

532
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: on being liked, which it was. It had its benefits,

533
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: but then it also gets in your head a little bit,

534
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: and I had to get that out of my system

535
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: a little bit, because you create this false sense of

536
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: like I will do whatever it takes, it'll be like

537
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: and then I put my emotions and my feelings aside

538
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: to make sure everybody else is good. So I had

539
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: to work past that a little bit. Yes, but they

540
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: did an amaze It's they didn't amazing.

541
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: Like being a teenager in Hollywood and you know, having

542
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: fame in an era where there was no cell phones

543
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: or pictures being taken, only like twelve.

544
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Of us and what actors like Leo DiCaprio and like

545
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: how we all knew each other.

546
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: I saw the solo solet Moon Fry documentary and it

547
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: kind of like really showed what it felt like.

548
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was this small little world and everybody knew.

549
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: You saw like Seth Green in there, and you saw

550
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: Leo in there, you saw like Stephen Dorf, and you

551
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: saw like the group of and it was this small

552
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: but it was amazing because there was no real competition

553
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: among us because we were all so different. It was like, oh, okay,

554
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: they cast Seth Green, Oh you're looking for a little

555
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: redhead kid. Okay, that's perfect. He's faan, you know, he's

556
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: fat and good for him. Like there was we would

557
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: all see each other at auditions and be like, hey,

558
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: how have you been?

559
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: What's going on? Is that?

560
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: It was amazing? It was amazing.

561
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: Do you keep up with a bunch of those?

562
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: I keep up with a lot of them. Nice, Yeah,

563
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: it's there's a there's a cool connection in having those.

564
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: We used to do these like teen magazine trips, Like

565
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: Team Beat used to do these weekend trips where it

566
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: was they would rent a bus and we would all

567
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: get on the bus and we'd fill out the forms

568
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: of like favorite color, favorite things, and they would print

569
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: that in the magazine and then it was like this

570
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: trip we would all go to marine Land and so

571
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: it was like you know, your favorite star is going

572
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: to Marineland. We would all it would just be this

573
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: like complete from page one to page whatever. It was

574
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: the original influencer. It was like, you know, it was

575
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: this like this sort of episode almost of like hey,

576
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: the trip and the fun thing and that's what the

577
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: issue was about. It was it was really cool. I

578
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: told you I talked about it.

579
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's good when I haven't even gotten to

580
00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: the first, not even gotten past the first.

581
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want to make sure that.

582
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: We get what you want out in this episode, So

583
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: whatever you want to know.

584
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: It's honestly, I'm here for for what you guys are doing.

585
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: So oh ok yeah yeah yah, yeah, sure is this thing? Okay?

586
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: So you're gonna be on Special Forces? Yes?

587
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: Soon?

588
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: Which one?

589
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: You did dance on the Stars obviously, which to me

590
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: was probably the hardest thing I've ever done in my

591
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: entire life.

592
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: It was yeah, because you were season seven, so I

593
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: had done a hard like I had literally done a

594
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: hard pass on that show. Yeah, fifteen seasons and counting.

595
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: They were coming to me every year and it was like, I,

596
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: why are you guys even coming to me? Like, it's

597
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: no the same you know, every single.

598
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: Show we did it.

599
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wait, this kind of looks fun. Yeah,

600
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: but I was like, there's I shall do that.

601
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: I sharn and I ended up meeting. We had started dating.

602
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: It was the pandemic, so there wasn't much going on,

603
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: and so then they approached again and they were like, hey,

604
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: we know you've been a hard pass, but here's it'd

605
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: be interesting you and Sharna would obviously be paired together.

606
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: And I had done these trips with her where she

607
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: had done professional sort of dancing things, like we were

608
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: in uh, we were in Universal Orlando and Disney Orlando

609
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: because she was doing this big dance convention and there

610
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: were all these little girls that just what we're like,

611
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: you know, giddy when she would walk in a room

612
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: because she is she's one of the best in the world.

613
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: What it is she does, you know.

614
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: When people don't realize that, like with all of these

615
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: I'm Dancing with the stars, all the pros are like

616
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: in their world show.

617
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, the best.

618
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: So so I was fascinated by it, and I didn't

619
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: understand the world. I didn't understand how much work really

620
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: went into it for her to be at the point

621
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: where she was. So then you do this show and

622
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: it's like you're you're learning technique and all these like

623
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: I grew up dancing. Yeah, just kind of like, oh,

624
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: if you feel it, dancing like that was my more

625
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: like life. You find a circle, you do whatever, whatever

626
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: dance moves you've learned, and you know, I was Roger

627
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: rabbiting and everything. Yeah, it took me a little while

628
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: to get down Roger Rabbit. So, yeah, you're jumping in

629
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: and it's a seven day you know, it's a seven

630
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: day a week.

631
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you have my relationship ended like that. Yeah.

632
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just I lost twenty pounds very quickly.

633
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: I remember when they first pitched it to me, they

634
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: were like, oh, you know, it's in the beginning, it'll

635
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: be like two hours a day. It's really simple. And

636
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: then it's like once you're in it, you're like, oh my,

637
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: I want to do this for like seven hours a day,

638
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: and I want to do this seven days a week

639
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: because it's live on Monday and I don't want to

640
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: look like an idiot dummy. Yeah, and then.

641
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: Weird because you're getting around the floor times, you're learning

642
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: two to three dances in a week, and then it

643
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: never goes perfectly until you go live for some reason,

644
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: like rehearsals everything like it didn't go well.

645
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: For you though you had the mentality of you've been

646
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 2: learning chuodolic because of what you did, and so it

647
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: was like it was a little more natural I would

648
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: assume for you to fall. Once you learn the technique

649
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: of it, then it's like, oh, I'm good with choreography.

650
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Because again, we were hip hop dancers, so everything's you know,

651
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: low and down, and then everything in ballroom was us.

652
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: Like personally, the frame, it was just it hurt. But yeah,

653
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: thank god.

654
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean even I started in show choir and then

655
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: and sink and it was all choreography. So it just

656
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: really taught me how to just it.

657
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: Almost hard for me too, was being because the man

658
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: is supposed to lead in those dances. So she had

659
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: to teach me choreography to the point where I was

660
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: good enough at it that I could lead her even

661
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: though she was the one dragging me around the floor.

662
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: She had to make it look like I was the

663
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: one that was dragging her around.

664
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: I always thought that on the show it must be

665
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: it's kind of harder men because you have to lead

666
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: and take and most of the men who go on

667
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: the show are not dancers, monsters.

668
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: They you know, they'll just spin you around and do

669
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: it and they're they're.

670
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: How scary is it for the lady, because yeah, you're

671
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: with you know, a new dancer, and you have to

672
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: trust that they're not going to drop you on your head.

673
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dangerous.

674
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were like we were working on dips and

675
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: things and she was like, oh, no, you do it

676
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: this way, and she but she's putting all of her

677
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: trust you doing stuff, and I was like, I wouldn't

678
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: trust me now if I were you. So what was harder?

679
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: Dancing with the Stars or Special Forces?

680
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: Totally different, totally different special forces looks. It's intense because

681
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: it is so much more immersive than you think. Like

682
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: going into it, I thought like, Okay, there's gonna be

683
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: challenges and things we do, so I can prepare for that,

684
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: and then mentally, I can prepare for just being yelled

685
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: at all the time, and so I'll be good. I

686
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: can get through that. But then once you're there. We

687
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: shot in New Zealand. It was dead of winter for them.

688
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: There's snow on the ground, it's freezing cold. We were

689
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: we had barracks that were just these like plain wooden walls.

690
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: We had like, uh, we had a we had a

691
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: stove basically in two rooms. We had a drying room

692
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: in that room. Drying room meaning we were in water

693
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: in the cold, like they had to cut squares out

694
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: of the ice in frozen lakes for us to do things.

695
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: So it was it was really intense. So you don't

696
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: you don't think about the concept of like, Okay, the

697
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: challenge sucks, but then afterwards you're jumping in ice water

698
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: fully clothed. You then have a dry pack in your backpack.

699
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: You have to go into a room and change into

700
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: dry clothes and keep yourself from So it's that it's grueling.

701
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: You're so immersed in it, and it's it's real like

702
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: you were going through this training. That's something I don't

703
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: think I want to experience.

704
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

705
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean maybe when I was younger.

706
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: There's something cool about it, though I believe it. So

707
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: there is something that like in experience like that unless

708
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 2: you and you've been doing there's no other way in life.

709
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: And I think everyone should feel that at some point

710
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: in their lives. Like I love that Israel forces you

711
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: to have to go through military training because I think

712
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: everyone needs to know what that is so that we

713
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: can all kind of see.

714
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: I mean, because you know, the military is a big

715
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: part of this world.

716
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: I think just keeping it could never lands won't go

717
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: it's below ninety degrees, exaggerating a war.

718
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: I remember Sharna was like, oh, you should like do

719
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: cold showers and stuff leading up to because you're gonna

720
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: have to do water things there and I was like,

721
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't turn the shower on cold and

722
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: there's no I was like, you know what, I would

723
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: rather just suck it up, jump in when I have

724
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: to do the like, and then be done with it.

725
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Then like prep can't prep for it. You're going to

726
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: be cold every time, And she's like, oh, you should

727
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: do ice bads. I was like, nope, I'm good all

728
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna like with it as it comes.

729
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Again. In my twenties, sure have loved us what that

730
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: experience was.

731
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: But now I just know if I did this show

732
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the first day, I would tear a sholder or something.

733
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I would see you like my body would

734
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: not be able to handle that anymore.

735
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: It's well, and it becomes it's so grueling that you

736
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: get so sore in living that way that that becomes

737
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: the thing of like can I do these next challenges?

738
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Not can I do them? But can I do them

739
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: without hurting myself? Because I hurt so bad just in

740
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: moving and living. And then you start realizing like, oh,

741
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 2: this is a young person's thing because my body does

742
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: not recover, and to continue doing this.

743
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Tis a sad feeling to realize your bodies like your

744
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: season right, Yeah, oh god, I'll bet he's going to.

745
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 3: Go through it.

746
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: He uh, he's a he's a he's a young guy,

747
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: but he's a really good person. He just it's you know,

748
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: it's hard to navigate life when you're under the microscope

749
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: these conversations where it was like, dude, I like you

750
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: now have access to Instagram and lives and all of that, Like,

751
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: be willing to put yourself out there a little bit,

752
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: be human because people are. People are accepting of people

753
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: being human and making mistakes. If you human human, make

754
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: those mistakes and you acknowledge the mistakes that you made

755
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: instead of playing the like you know, well, what did

756
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: you expect?

757
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: People don't They don't respond to that authentic So you're human.

758
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: Like you met there and you you like, genuinely apologize

759
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: for things and mistakes that you've made and anybody that

760
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: you hurt within making those mistakes. People are open to

761
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: that because everybody does that. That's we're human. We're human beings.

762
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: And like and we're also ad d Like the next

763
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 4: scandal that comes out, people are gonna forget.

764
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: You might as well make good on that rather than

765
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: be on the it's only going to be news for

766
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: like two days if you just come out and apology,

767
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they're reporting on the

768
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: next scandal to pass.

769
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: As I always say, these too, shll pass.

770
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: BROV.

771
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: What what's next? What can we expect besides Oldish?

772
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: Honestly the broadcast right now? Yeah, especially the show. And

773
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: then I I sort of am in a place in

774
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: my life where I I don't really plan much ahead.

775
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: I'm just sort of in it day to day, and

776
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: it's and I'm at a point to where I'm trying

777
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: to say yes to as many things as I can

778
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: actually do, just for the experience of them, because you

779
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: never know. It's even in these things that you do

780
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: that are crazy that you say yes to, you come

781
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: out of them, you go, I'm so.

782
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: Glad that I and do it while you're young, because

783
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: it's like special forces.

784
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: For me, I've only got about five years.

785
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: I feel like our generation definitely U maybe we took

786
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: better care of ourselves, but I do feel like we.

787
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: Or just we move better.

788
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: We got we got lucky because our generation forward has

789
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: been open to so many more things, and medicine has

790
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: progressed in such an incredible way. Mental health has progressed

791
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: in such an incredible way. I wish that on everyone.

792
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, when you've got when we're talking

793
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: about the the medical system and health care for for all,

794
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: it's like, that includes mental health.

795
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: Bran, It's so great to have you on the show.

796
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: So good to finally met.

797
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 3: It's weird because.

798
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: Like for so to for your birthday, it was one

799
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: of those things like wait, I've met.

800
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: I told sharn that, and Sharna, she's so amazing. She

801
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: was like, I honestly I saw a Lance there too,

802
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: and she pointed you out, and she was like, I

803
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: think Lances and the corner. I pointed you guys. I

804
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: was like, that's brand. So what's funny though, what's funny

805
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: is Sharna's first thought was like, they have no idea

806
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: who I am, so there's no reason to go over

807
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: and say hello. But it's that it's that weird thing,

808
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: like I people think that celebrities all know each other

809
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: is and they expect it. I see people all the

810
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: time where I'm like, just it was cool seeing them, Yeah,

811
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: seeing me, He's like, I'm like, I'm like, it's so

812
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: it's amazing. It's so crazy that we do that. But Yeah, Rosewood. God,

813
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: that was an amazing hotel to be and now we

814
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: know each other.

815
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: And so now we went together double days.

816
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: Probably. It was like, that's my favorite hotel.

817
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: It's amazing thinking we were going to go hiking and

818
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: seeing Santa Barbara and all this type of stuff.

819
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: We didn't leave the hotel.

820
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: It's so amazing. It's so odd. We were talking about

821
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: the train that was yeah, like who was it that

822
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: walked on that property and they were like, yes, this

823
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: is the one. We're going to decorate the train tracks

824
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: and somebody that works it. It's gonna be like freight

825
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: trains running through carrying fuel and cattle.

826
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: And only Caruso could build a place that is probably

827
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: the most expensive place in Santa Barbara with.

828
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: A train going right through it.

829
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: So expensive. Yeah, we were in a room and it

830
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: was like, I don't think I've ever spent this much

831
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: money on a room. Those rooms were. Yeah, it was insane.

832
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, guys, thank you so much for being

833
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: here to have because I know I could talk another tool.

834
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would love to. Next time we'll get to

835
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: the questions.

836
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, next I didn't even get to question number.

837
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Someone talking about we actually do.

838
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: Want to through a few because we do have questions.

839
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: So one two did you enjoy nineties con?

840
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely? It was super fun. It was like summer camp

841
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: honestly for us.

842
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: Uh, you still dance with Sharna?

843
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I my body here. I'm fifty. I can't.

844
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: I can't really dance the way I used to when

845
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: I was younger. But we we are. We're working on

846
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: something right now that we want to shoot, just to

847
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: put out on social media. It's just kind of a nice.

848
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: Dance movement, keep moving. It might be nice crazy dance

849
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: movement to keep moving. Who is your favorite nineties artist

850
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: or band? From What Is It Media? Melanie TLC was

851
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: one of them.

852
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Chileian and really well, and so it's it's.

853
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: I love the Chili and Matthew relationship.

854
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: You.

855
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's a good man. I don't know them.

856
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool. It's a cool like.

857
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: It looks like it works so well. I love it.

858
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Just a good couple. And then the last one here

859
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: from G for You eighty one. Did you keep anything

860
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: from David Silver's wardrobe?

861
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: No? And I kept I ken't describe book of What

862
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: to Never Wear Again.

863
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.

864
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: Basically well, thanks again for being here. Guys, thank you

865
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: so much for listening. Be good to each other, don't

866
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: drink and drive, take care of those animals, and until

867
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: next time, say Frosted Hey, thanks for listening. Follow us

868
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,640
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869
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Speaker 1: and at Lance Bass for all your pop culture needs

870
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