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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. This is the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show. I'm Buck, He's Clay.

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Speaker 3: We have much to discuss with you today. As always,

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Speaker 3: thanks for rolling with us.

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Speaker 2: The announcement comes in a matter of hours. Governor Ron

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Speaker 2: de Santis of Florida will be officially entering this race,

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Speaker 2: joining Elon Musk on a Twitter spaces which I think

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Speaker 2: I know what that is. I certainly know what Twitter is,

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Speaker 2: But how does this look? How's The Trump campaign responded,

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Speaker 2: as you can imagine, not a particularly.

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Speaker 3: Warm welcome from the Trump team. At the prospect here

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Speaker 3: of a Elon I mean of a Elon launch for

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis, which is imminent. We'll talk more about that.

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Speaker 3: Still hearing some stuff about how a debt ceiling. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's so scary. The debt ceiling.

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Speaker 2: We may break through without We might update you on

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Speaker 2: some of that later on in the program. It seems

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Speaker 2: like there will be a deal. The brinksmanship has gotten stale,

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Speaker 2: so some of the people who like to push it

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Speaker 2: are still hoping that you will be particularly aggravated at

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Speaker 2: the prospect of some kind of major financial crisis coming

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Speaker 2: along because of this, but I don't think it's going

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Speaker 2: to happen. But the budget deal, debt ceiling thing, We've

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Speaker 2: got some more for you on that.

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Speaker 3: And also.

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Speaker 2: Target is feeling the heat right now, and I think, Clay,

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Speaker 2: that's a good place for us to start, because we've seen,

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Speaker 2: for the first time, really that I can remember, in

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Speaker 2: the last I don't know, call it the last twelve

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Speaker 2: months or so, major corporations that have gone extreme left

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Speaker 2: and very woke with their products and with the way

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Speaker 2: they present things. We've seen them start to get meaningful pushback,

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Speaker 2: not just people saying I don't like this, but financial consequences,

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Speaker 2: which is the only thing that's going to change that

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Speaker 2: corporate behavior. Right, unless it hurts the bottom line, nothing changes.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I had been frustrated for a while because

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Speaker 2: the right had been saying go woke, go broke.

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Speaker 3: And it hadn't really been true.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Colin Kaepernick, for example, somebody

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Speaker 2: who became much more famous and much wealthier because of

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Speaker 2: his wokeness. Right, there are other examples you can point to.

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Speaker 2: We say go woke, go broke, but it hadn't really

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Speaker 2: hadn't really worked out that way. In fact, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it ever really worked out that way pre

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Speaker 2: who who went woke.

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Speaker 3: And went broke. It's a really it's a really good,

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Speaker 3: good point. And this is where I think the sports media,

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Speaker 3: being so far left wing, Buck has refused to acknowledge

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Speaker 3: that the NBA and the NFL really took it on

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Speaker 3: the chin over going woke right, and they really have

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Speaker 3: tried to run in the opposite direction. It took a

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Speaker 3: few years for it to register. It's unlike bud Light.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why I think bud Light's so significant,

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Speaker 3: Buck is you get a direct amount of bud Light

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Speaker 3: sold every week and people can say, holy crap, they're

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Speaker 3: down twenty eight percent. We've never seen anything like this.

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Speaker 3: I think it's harder to see in some brands than others.

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Speaker 3: But the television ratings of the NBA have collapsed. And

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Speaker 3: I think one thing is sports media is so far

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Speaker 3: left wing that no one will even acknowledge it because

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Speaker 3: they don't want to give credit to the idea that

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Speaker 3: what we said, hey, you're alienating a huge part of

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Speaker 3: the sporting public was actually true. So I do think

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Speaker 3: the NBA is a good example of one that took

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Speaker 3: it on the chin, and I think, to a certain extent,

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Speaker 3: Disney because Disney Stockbuck. Yeah, but that's I was gonna

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Speaker 3: say Disney.

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Speaker 2: So going back to the timeline, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: Disney is the beginning of what we are seeing now.

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Speaker 2: Disney was the first one that I can think of

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Speaker 2: on the NBA, in the NFL. I mean, these guys,

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Speaker 2: you know, now you get into well, who's going broke clags?

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Speaker 2: It's not the players. They're demanding more money than ever.

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Speaker 3: Right. They don't feel like there's any there's no hit

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Speaker 3: to their pocketbook that's happened because of this, But I

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Speaker 2: So that so then see that's the thing if the

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Speaker 2: if the NBA takes a fifteen or twenty percent haircut

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Speaker 2: in because of the ratings, that doesn't register in a

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Speaker 2: way that everyone feels like this is a big victory.

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Speaker 2: When bud Light is down thirty percent in one quarter,

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Speaker 2: you see the work that you have. So let's just

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Speaker 2: let's again back up for a second.

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Speaker 3: Disney.

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Speaker 2: There's this fight with Ron De Santis, and it was

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Speaker 2: interesting also to see how this plays out among conservatives

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Speaker 2: because we generally have a especially about economics.

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Speaker 3: A lais a fair attitude about things. Oh, let the

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Speaker 2: Well, that's not so clear when you have advantages being

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Speaker 2: given to a company that don't go to other companies,

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Speaker 2: and that is also taking political action. So Disney was

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Speaker 2: the beginning of what we saw as pushback. And then

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Speaker 2: the bud Light phenomenon happened, which has put the fear

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Speaker 2: fear of the almighty into some of these companies. And

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Speaker 2: bathing suits that tuck away the man stuff. People are

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Speaker 2: showing up and saying this is a problem. And then

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Speaker 2: that brings me to the latest play. And this is

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Speaker 2: going back into the sports world. So the Los Angeles Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: and I will be honest, I have not watched a

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Speaker 2: professional baseball game, I think in almost twenty years now,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not up on the latest. But I know

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Speaker 2: of these LA Dodgers. I know they used to be

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Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Dodgers. A long time ago. They had they

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Speaker 2: had invited for pride celebration stuff. They invited this group

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Speaker 2: Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, and this is for their annual

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Speaker 2: LGBTQ Plus. I don't know why they're leaving out the IA.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really not inclusive enough. I'm gonna write

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Speaker 3: But they were.

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Speaker 2: They invited the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, and then they

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Speaker 2: disinvited them, and now they've reinvited them for their June

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Speaker 2: sixteenth Celebration of Pride night at Dodger Stadium. For anyone

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Speaker 2: who doesn't know, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence have been

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Speaker 2: gay men who dress as nuns and engage in sexually

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Speaker 2: dressed in nuns habits, including video that you may see

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Speaker 2: circulating right now of these, you know, hairy thirty five

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Speaker 2: year old or whatever men dressed as nuns with high

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Speaker 2: pretending to be the crucified Jesus Christ, and we all

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Speaker 2: sit around saying, okay, first of all, why does anyone

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Speaker 2: in the Pride celebration community think the Sisters of Perpetual

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Speaker 2: Indulgence or a group that should be supported period. I

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Speaker 2: And then what do the LA Dodgers think the audience

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Speaker 2: that they have a lot of a lot of Catholics

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Speaker 2: of Latino Catholics for example, who are very fond of baseball.

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Speaker 3: Probably the base of Dodger fans in LA is overwhelmingly Catholic,

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Speaker 3: Hispanic fan base. I just have to ask you, clag

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're not a Catholic.

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Speaker 2: I am if they but if they had invited let's say,

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Speaker 2: meant to mock Judaism, If they had a pride group

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Speaker 2: all you know, I can't even describe on radio that

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Speaker 2: but it's meant to absolutely graphically sexually humiliate Catholics.

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Speaker 3: That's the whole point of it. I was raised Southern Baptist,

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Speaker 3: so that is my religious background. You are Catholic in particular.

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Speaker 3: But what I would say, Buck, is what you just said.

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Speaker 3: If the Dodgers, as part of an outreach, decided that

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Speaker 3: that would be immediately condemned and disallowed. And honestly, if

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Speaker 3: you mocked Mohammed, you might have to worry about your

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Speaker 3: players being murdered by terrorists and being put on a

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Speaker 3: fatwa list like we just saw happened to Salmon Rushti.

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Speaker 3: Or cartoons controversy, you absolutely would have to worry about

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Speaker 3: that one hundred percent because they would say, you are

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Speaker 3: mocking our religion. We're going to kill you, right, And

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Speaker 3: the fact that if you mock the Muslim faith you

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Speaker 3: is just should be a bright line rule. And if

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Speaker 3: any religion, I don't understand for the Dodger perspective. And

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Speaker 3: this goes for all sports teams. How is the standard

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Speaker 3: not the same for all religions. I mean to me,

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Speaker 3: if you are going to allow the Catholic faith to

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Speaker 3: we want these things. This is representative in our building.

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Speaker 2: This is specifically inviting people to go out and I

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Speaker 2: I have seen the videos, I have seen the photos.

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Speaker 2: I have seen what they do. It is meant to

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Speaker 2: be not only offensive to Catholics, it's just depraved. I mean,

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Speaker 2: someone doing a striptease over whether you believe in Jesus

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Speaker 2: and you have a nun dressed up who's actually a man.

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Speaker 3: By the way. So this stuff is depraved, it is grotesque,

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Speaker 2: And yet the Dodgers are more afraid of the backlash

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Speaker 2: they'll get from the activist community than the Catholics, in

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Speaker 2: particular because the nuns, obviously is what they're going after here.

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Speaker 2: And also it's interesting the activist hostility, the LGBTQIA plus

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Speaker 2: activist hostility toward Catholics is nothing new, something you're not

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Speaker 2: really supposed to talk about.

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Speaker 3: You're just supposed to take it as a Catholic. But

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Speaker 3: when you see what's.

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Speaker 2: Going on here, Clay, this is another moment where it's

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Speaker 2: a gut check moment. You know, you ask yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're a Roman Catholic. You go to church, let's say

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Speaker 2: every Sunday or once a year, I don't even care.

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Speaker 2: But you're somebody who believes, you believe the divinity of

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Speaker 2: the Holy Trinity. You're gonna watch a Dodgers game after this.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna show up. You're gonna buy tickets to go

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Speaker 2: to Dodger Stadium. You're gonna support them. You're gonna pay

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Speaker 2: fifteen dollars for crappy beer and a hot dog. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: thirty dollars for crappy beer and a hot dog. That's

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Speaker 2: how you want to spend your time, your dollars. You

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Speaker 2: want to support an organization like this. If you do

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Speaker 2: not bring the Dodgers to your knees, you are not

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Speaker 2: serious about standing up for your faith in the public

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Speaker 2: sphere as a Dodgers fan. At this point, that's just

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Speaker 3: also in Georgia State Court. I don't know that they

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Speaker 3: could rush a case, given all the appeals that would

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Speaker 3: go on and everything else that would get Trump in

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Speaker 3: front of a jury before the twenty twenty four election

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Speaker 3: would take place. And if you're an expert on the

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Speaker 3: DC circuit and you know about timing on criminal charges,

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Speaker 3: I would be interested to here. But remember on the

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Speaker 3: jan six defendants buck, a lot of them are just

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Speaker 3: now standing trial for San six related offenses.

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Speaker 2: I try to line this up though, as just a

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Speaker 2: series of binaries to get closer to what is likely here, Right,

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Speaker 2: someone you can do like decision tree analysis.

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Speaker 3: But do we think that Trump is going to face

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Speaker 3: charges in Georgia? Yes? We agree, yes. Do we think

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Speaker 3: that Trump is going to face some form of criminal

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Speaker 3: charges from this special council meaning the DOJ. Merrick Garland's

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Speaker 3: going to say, you know, he's a former president, but

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Speaker 3: law's the law. I think we agree, yes, right, yes,

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Speaker 3: Do we think that either of those jury pools is

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Speaker 3: overwhelmingly likely to convict? I think yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Then you get to well, these are serious criminal charges. Now,

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Speaker 2: this isn't some civil thing in New York that he

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Speaker 2: can wave his hand at or some fine for the

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Speaker 2: Trump organization, especially the stuff in Georgia as I see

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Speaker 2: it right now, because I think maybe maybe it's possible

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Speaker 2: that you wouldn't get a prison sentence for the obstruction.

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Speaker 2: You know, obstruction is a very tough to lock up

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Speaker 2: a former pressure. It's a conspiracy charge.

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Speaker 3: Basically, like my old Krim law professor used to say,

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Speaker 3: we got him for nothing else, Let's get him on.

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Speaker 3: Let's get him see obstructions like that too.

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Speaker 2: But the Georgia thing, because they might go for some

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Speaker 2: kind of a racketeering rico influence elections. I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: getting real creative with what you're seeing in the press.

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand how you can If the charges

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Speaker 2: are brought and he's found guilty, there's gonna have to

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Speaker 2: be punishment and he'll be a convicted fellow at that point. Right,

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Speaker 2: So what's the game plan for the Democrats? I think

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Speaker 2: it has to be. They're trying to lock him up,

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Speaker 2: is what I'm getting. I think they're actually trying to.

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Speaker 2: When I say lock them up, they're not gonna lock

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Speaker 2: them up for you know, fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: But if they can even get a thirty day prison

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Speaker 3: sentence for Donald Trump think about that, which they would

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Speaker 3: say is so lenient. Yeah. Look, Buck, here's my big

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Speaker 3: thing on it. I think if a Trump's best strategy

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Speaker 3: is to play this out so it doesn't ever go

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Speaker 3: before need jury until I mean, the New York City case.

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Speaker 2: Can't get out of Georgia, it doesn't matter even if

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Speaker 3: I don't. I guess what I'm getting at is I

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Speaker 3: think the New York case is gonna take months. Let's

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Speaker 3: talk about it when we come back. I'm just working

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Speaker 3: through the timing of it, leaving aside the legality of

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Speaker 3: it right now. And again, if there's somebody out there

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Speaker 3: who's brilliant on DC circuit scheduling that's listening to us

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Speaker 3: right now or Atlanta Georgia scheduling, I would love to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. Okay, So the question

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Speaker 3: that I'm asking is one that I have not seen

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Speaker 3: raised anywhere. So I always like to think strategically, and

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Speaker 3: I try to tell my kids to do this too.

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Speaker 3: Pretend that you are the person who is in charge

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Speaker 3: of making a really important decision. I'm not in charge

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Speaker 3: of making a really important decision as it pertains to

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Speaker 3: any of Trump's criminal, civil legal related issues, right But

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Speaker 3: as a lawyer, one way you learn is you look

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Speaker 3: at different circumstances, try to analyze them, work on your judgment.

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Speaker 3: So if Donald Trump was like Clay Travis, you graduated

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Speaker 3: from law school, you know a little bit about media.

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Speaker 3: You and Buck have got the biggest radio show in

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Speaker 3: the country right now, how should I handle all these

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Speaker 3: legal proceedings that are going on right now? My answer,

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Speaker 3: beyond the shadow of a doubt Buck, is delay, delay, delay.

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Speaker 3: You want your lawyers to file as many motions as possible,

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Speaker 3: presume that you are going to get charged, and we

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Speaker 3: can talk about what the political ramifications of those charges are.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm Donald Trump, I do not want to

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Speaker 3: take my seat in front of a DC jury or

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Speaker 3: an Atlanta jury until after the twenty twenty four election, right,

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Speaker 3: that's number one goal to me.

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Speaker 2: I honestly believe that you could find a DC jury

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Speaker 2: that would find Donald Trump guilty of anything. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that, and I don't think it'd be hard

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Speaker 2: to find them. I think that you could find a

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Speaker 2: DC jury that would say that Trump assassinated a JFK.

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Speaker 2: Like they just don't care. They just want to get them.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three percent Democrat. And these people are brave.

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Speaker 2: Remember they live They're like the bees that are right

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Speaker 2: in the center of the hive, right, and they're right

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Speaker 2: up against it all the time, even if they don't

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Speaker 2: work in politics. As a city, there's this constant osmosis

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Speaker 2: of the narrative that you're subjected to by living there,

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Speaker 2: which one of the good reasons why you shouldn't stay

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Speaker 2: in DC for too long.

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Speaker 3: But I think that that's that's gonna be a huge

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Speaker 3: challenge because you can't get it. You can't get a

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Speaker 3: fair jury, and there's really no such thing as a

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Speaker 3: fair jury for Trump at this point on these issues.

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Speaker 3: And I remember, this is not did Donald Trump get

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Speaker 3: drunk one night and run over to people in the crosswalk,

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Speaker 3: Like that's not political. That's how you did or you didn't.

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Speaker 3: All of the things they're going after Trump on. Isn't

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Speaker 3: it amazing when you think about it, all of it is.

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Speaker 3: It's either a some campaign finance thing or some election thing,

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Speaker 3: or some conspiracy in the capital. It's all politics. Really.

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Speaker 3: The The sole exception you could come up with, and

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Speaker 3: this is why, would be the the classified documents handling.

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Speaker 3: But even that, that's a government function that only you know,

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Speaker 3: you only do as the president. That's very specific to

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Speaker 3: your presidential role. So it all ties into politics in

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Speaker 3: some way, and they're coming at him from every angle. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the easy way to think about that is if

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Speaker 3: there was a Republican president in office, would they have

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Speaker 3: raided mar A Lago with the FBI? The answer is

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Speaker 3: of course no, right, Like, there's a zero percent chance

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Speaker 3: that raid happens if there is a Republican in office.

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Speaker 3: So my advice to Trump is delay, delayed, delay, because

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Speaker 3: buck they will. You're right, they want to convict him

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Speaker 3: and they want to try to put him in prison.

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Speaker 3: But there's no way that can happen. I don't think

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Speaker 3: based on the schedule right now between now and November

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four. So Trump could theoretically either pardon

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Speaker 3: himself or DeSantis or Nikki Haley or Vivi Gramaswami or

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Speaker 3: Tim Scott, whoever the nominee were. If it were not,

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Speaker 3: Trump could also pledge. And I would do that right

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Speaker 3: now if I were running for office. In fact, I

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Speaker 3: would do it tonight if I were DeSantis. DeSantis is

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Speaker 3: talking to Elon uh and uh and and in that

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Speaker 3: conversation on spaces and then I think he's going on

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Speaker 3: Fox News tonight. By the way, he's gonna be on

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Speaker 3: with us tomorrow, so you'll be able to hear just

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Speaker 3: sayntis on this program tomorrow after he's already announced. I

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Speaker 3: love how you dropped that asking any question. Clay's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Rona said it is coming more NBD. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a really interesting I mean now it's

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Speaker 2: ron de Santis candidate will be joining us. And I

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Speaker 2: just want everyone to know this Trumps phone is open.

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Speaker 2: We have reached out to the Trump team. We're gonna,

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Speaker 2: you know, the equal time for Trump. He needs to

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Speaker 2: call in. He needs to tell us what he sees

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Speaker 2: going on with this primary, what he sees with this

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Speaker 2: legal fight.

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Speaker 3: You know, let's go, let's let's roll. We've got a

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Speaker 3: lot to talk to both of them about, no doubt,

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Speaker 3: and we will break all this down and more. But

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Speaker 3: that's the I'd go ahead and make that pledge if

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Speaker 3: I was just antis. We'll talk about it next. Welcome

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Speaker 3: Back Hour number two, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: all of you hanging out with us. I want to

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Speaker 3: dive into a couple of different stories here in a

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Speaker 3: moment Disney. We talked about this a little bit earlier, Buck,

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Speaker 3: Disney is getting absolutely savaged when it comes to its

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Speaker 3: overall brand value. Disney and I can't believe this is true.

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Speaker 3: According to an Axio subset of the hundred of the

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Speaker 3: biggest companies out there is now the fifth most polarizing

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Speaker 3: brand in America. How did they get there? Let's we'll

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Speaker 3: talk about that in a minute. But I wanted to

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Speaker 3: share with you again what we were talking about at

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Speaker 3: the end of the first hour and discussing the Trump

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Speaker 3: legal peril. Buck, do you agree with me that every

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Speaker 3: Republican running for president should pledge to pardon Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: of all federal charges in the event that they are elected.

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Speaker 3: President in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't even I can't even think of, from

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Speaker 2: a conservative or Republican point of view, a particularly strong

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Speaker 2: counterpoint to it. I can't see a reason why you wouldn't. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think it's right on political grounds. I think it's

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Speaker 2: right on ethical grounds. So what else is there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I guess if you were someone running

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Speaker 3: who hates Trump and believes that he should go to prison,

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Speaker 3: like Liz Cheney, I was saying, then you're then you're

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Speaker 3: not a republic You're a phony. Right. So and for

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Speaker 3: any real yeah, like the Lincoln Project would be opposed

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Speaker 3: to this, right and as a general project, if the

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Speaker 3: Lincoln Project is opposed to something, and you have a

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Speaker 3: spine and you have a you know, functional brain, you

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Speaker 3: should be opposed to whatever they're opposed to. And it

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Speaker 3: is funny, by the way, how quickly they've pivoted from

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Speaker 3: Trump is a unique threat to the Republic. To oh,

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Speaker 3: if Rondo Santis gets elected, it's important to recognize that

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Speaker 3: he's maybe even a bigger threat. Uh. But I I

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Speaker 3: think and correct me if I'm wrong, Buck, But no,

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Speaker 3: republic I have not seen any Republican candidate running who

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Speaker 3: has made that pledge publicly, yet have you no?

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Speaker 2: And I mean know, look, Ron is not yet a candidate,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see what he says. I do remember when

648
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Speaker 2: there was the possibility, there was a discussion of extradition,

649
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: and everyone recalls there was a little a little bit

650
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Speaker 2: of heat on DeSantis when the charges were announced, people saying,

651
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Speaker 2: hol lo, wait, so why did he miss this opportunity?

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Speaker 2: He did say that he would not in any way

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Speaker 2: have the State of Florida cooperate in that extradition. Now,

654
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, legally that's you know,

655
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: that's a losing battle because of existing law. But he

656
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: was basically saying we're gonna do everything we can to

657
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, gum up the works and not help out

658
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: with this, which which I think was the right move

659
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Speaker 2: under those circumstances too. So I would not be surprised

660
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Speaker 2: at all if he came forward and said I wouldn't.

661
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, on the right these days, understanding

662
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: who the real opposition is and trying to unite our

663
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: team on what really matters. There's going to be fighting,

664
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Speaker 2: there's going to be sniping about stuff. But I think

665
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: people will see that in a very positive light, and

666
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: I think from what I see, I don't know. Maybe

667
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just missing this right. This is all perception driven.

668
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: Whenever there's anything out of the Trump camp or even

669
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: some of the Trump some of the Trump spokespersons, that's like, look,

670
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: Ron's a great governor, but we just know it has

671
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: to be it has to be Trump this go around.

672
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: The people that I know who are you know, still deciding,

673
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: they're like, you know that that starts to But whenever

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Speaker 2: they say, you know, Ron DeSantis is a George funded

675
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: sorry George George George Soros funded, you know, globalist deep

676
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: state operative who's working with the Builderbergs, I'm like, that's

677
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: actually going to help Ron de Santis more.

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Speaker 3: That it hurts it. Yeah. I think Trump's strongest argument

679
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: on DeSantis is, hey, I'm going to be president for

680
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: four more years. He's doing a good job in Florida,

681
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: but he's not ready for this job yet, So you

682
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: need me for four years and then in twenty twenty eight.

683
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: I might even endorse Ron DeSantis because I might think

684
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: he's the best option for the country, but he's not

685
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: ready yet. Yeah.

686
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: No, No one wants to feel like someone's turned into

687
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: a suicide bomber during the primary. You know what I mean,

688
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: Like they're just going to take the whole system down

689
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: with them as.

690
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: Opposed to the Hillary. Did you see Hillary's tweet? Like

691
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: when Trump is basically making the same argument as the

692
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: NAACP and Hillary, I think that's a really weak argument

693
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: for Trump, right because Hillary is not renowned for her

694
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 3: extreme genius in this respect. But Hillary tweeted, I wanted

695
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Speaker 3: to make sure we hit this too, because I saw

696
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Speaker 3: it and I think it ties in with what's happened

697
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Speaker 3: to Disney. Hillary tweeted, and I mean, just come on, Hillary,

698
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 3: and then she turned off replies buck so nobody could

699
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Speaker 3: actually reply to it. And I would just say this,

700
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: if you have an opinion and you turn off everybody

701
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: being able to reply to your opinion on Twitter, then

702
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: that is not a very strong sign that your argument

703
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: is a good one if you're worried about what people

704
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: will say in response to it. But this is I'm

705
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: gonna scroll down. I want to make sure I get

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Speaker 3: her tweet right. Ron de Santis Hillary Clinton. Ron DeSantis's

707
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Speaker 3: ultra maga Florida isn't safe for people of color, LGBTQ

708
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: people or even multi billion dollar corporations, and she puts

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00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: it in there, and it's a very Clinton move to

710
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: put it in multi billion dollar corporations. But when your

711
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: argument is Florida sucks and it's an awful place, and

712
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: that's why Ron de Santis doesn't deserve to be president

713
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 3: of the United States, you're basically parroting lies that are

714
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: the same thing as what the NAACP and Hillary Clinton

715
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: are saying, right, And I think that's a really inefficient

716
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Speaker 3: way to attack Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have to be on the same page

718
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Speaker 2: about what's good on as a conservative or on the right.

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Speaker 2: You know, low taxes, low crime relative to what's happened

720
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Speaker 2: in the rest of the country, and influx of people.

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Speaker 3: And it's true, but it's true with Tennessee. It's true

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Speaker 3: of Texas. You know, we we give you.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because in an how we're Floridy and then

724
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: a Tennessee and so we give not as much credit

725
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: to Texas as it deserves on this. But Texas was

726
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: really the original low tax, pro freedom state that started

727
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: to get a lot of people and that's been going on.

728
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I remember when I went to work

729
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: for Glenn back at the Blaze. I came out of

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Speaker 2: the CIA to go work for Glenn and he was

731
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Speaker 2: New York based. Then he moved to Dallas, and at

732
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Speaker 2: the time it was people were like, WHOA, how you're

733
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Speaker 2: in media?

734
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Speaker 3: How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: Glenn sees many steps ahead, and he saw I think

736
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: what was coming with this sorting of the country into

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Speaker 2: basically free and authoritarian, which is really what Blue and

738
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Speaker 2: Red I think has become. And this is a dynamic

739
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: that I'm going to be really interesting to see how

740
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Speaker 2: it plays out in the primary overall, because you've got

741
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Speaker 2: you look, you've got a lot of You've got a

742
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Speaker 2: bunch of high wattage candidates Like I don't think vi

743
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Speaker 2: vek Ramaswami is going to win the election. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but he's an interesting guy who,

745
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, throws some good points into the mix, and

746
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: I think that and understands the economic and financial side

747
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: of things. I don't know what Nikki Haley's really going

748
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: to be the things other than apparently take cheap shots

749
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: at Ron DeSantis on the avad Trump.

750
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Speaker 3: But she's there, so there's that.

751
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how

752
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: all these different candidates look at what is happening in

753
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: the country and explain what that vision of the future is.

754
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: Is it create the same you know, use the federal

755
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: government to create as much room for more you know Tennessee, Florida,

756
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: Texas policies in another states. Or is it just try

757
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: to wall off those places and protect them from federal overreach.

758
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to hear what the vision is,

759
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: you know, what the national level vision is, because you

760
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: really haven't heard that articulated from anyone yet. I mean

761
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: Trump you could say it's more of Trump, but things

762
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: have changed since Trump. This is a part of it

763
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: that we haven't really had much of as part of

764
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: the discussion, right the pandemic and the authoritarianism, and you know,

765
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: our perception of American politics since twenty nineteen, you know,

766
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: and into twenty twenty, Trump's last year in office has

767
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: shifted and the party has shifted too. So there's a

768
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: lot that's going to be worked out. I think as

769
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Speaker 2: part of the primary.

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Speaker 3: This ties in, by the way, why I think DeSantis's

771
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: battle with Disney has resonated very well with the base

772
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Speaker 3: of the Republican Party.

773
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think it's made the corporate ist very nervous. If

775
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: you're big business guy, you're not happy with DeSantis feuding

776
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: with Disney. And I thought one of the funniest criticisms

777
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: that was Ron DeSantis took fifty thousand dollars from Disney

778
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: and now he's, you know, taking shots at him. Isn't

779
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: that what you want? Don't don't you want someone to

780
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: do what's right irrespective of who their donors are. Like

781
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: that actually seems like a really strong point. And to

782
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: just so, I remember speaking to a guy in the

783
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: world of finance. I always thought this was just realie,

784
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: not someone I knew well, but its like a Hedge

785
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: funny guy. And we were talking about this is when

786
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 3: I was living in New York City. He said, you

787
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: know what I You know what I do. I give

788
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: to I give to every district attorney campaign. I don't

789
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 3: give to.

790
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: Give the I give to every there's a candidate who

791
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: has any shot of winning.

792
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: I give to Republicans. I did I get to Democrats.

793
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: I'd give to, you know, the chief commissar if they're

794
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: running for district attorney, because I.

795
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Speaker 3: Just want to know. I want them to know.

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Speaker 2: That is how corporations operate, for the most part, a

797
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: lot of them do they just give money to the

798
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: whomever they think is going to be in a position

799
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: to be advantageous to their interests when it matters, and

800
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Speaker 2: that means given to both sides.

801
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 3: Right, Look at even I thought this was interesting about

802
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: remember Sam Bankman Freed does that? Does anyone? Can we

803
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: just take a moment, how many of you remember remember

804
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: a little guy with the curly hair made like tens

805
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Speaker 3: of billions of dollars just disappear, and he was like, Hey,

806
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Speaker 3: I'm like living in like the top of a manship

807
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: and I have sex parties at like this little weird

808
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: guy who was, you know, running this crypto exchange that

809
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat Arena was named for FTX. Right, and uh,

810
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: but remember he was giving money or the those guys

811
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: were giving money to both sides.

812
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: And people were like, oh, well it's not political. Well no,

813
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: it's very political the whole point. So with Ron DeSantis, Okay,

814
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: Disney wanted to give him money. Great, they're supporting a

815
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: candidate that they hope is a good leader. That's what

816
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: the money is supposed to be for. It's not supposed

817
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: to be we're buying you off. We're just not saying it.

818
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Speaker 2: That's for the Biden family. That's a specific thing.

819
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Speaker 3: So here's the deal, Buck, this Axios poll, Disney carried

820
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Speaker 3: a reputation score in twenty fourteen of eighty three out

821
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Speaker 3: of one hundred. Most people liked the Disney twenty fourteen.

822
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Speaker 3: Not that long ago, didn't you. I grew up loving Disney.

823
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Speaker 3: Like Disney products to me was the most like it was.

824
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Speaker 3: It was America. It was Americana meets childhood fantasy and dream.

825
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: It was great, right. I mean that's what we did

826
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Speaker 3: on our family vacations. We would go, say, stay at

827
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Speaker 3: Fort Wilderness campground at the Disney World resort down in Florida.

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Speaker 3: Obsessed like a huge Disney family. By the way, when

829
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: it had a reputation score of eighty three, Buck not

830
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Speaker 3: polarizing at all. Democrats and Republicans, this is just twenty

831
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Speaker 3: fourteen had roughly the same opinion of Disney World. Okay, Disney.

832
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: This is where it gets interesting. It has collapsed. The

833
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: overall brand value of Disney has gone from eighty three

834
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: to seventy point nine in the current number. Right, And

835
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: when you go dive into it, it's accelerated its collapse

836
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: because it's become very political. Disney's reputation went up a

837
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: few points for Democrats by coming out and saying, oh,

838
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: we're opposed to don't stay gay, we dislike DeSantis, but

839
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: it plunged more among Republicans. So from a pure business perspective,

840
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: leave aside the politics. If your brand is gaining small

841
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: amounts with Democrats and lose it losing massive with Republicans,

842
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 3: and we live in a fifty to fifty society, why

843
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: in the world would you do that? And along the way,

844
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: Disney's polarization has now skyrocketed. It's the fifth most polarizing

845
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: brand they tested in all of America. Buck And you

846
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: know what, you know why? This is about people's kids, right,

847
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 3: you know this is about people's children and the.

848
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Speaker 2: Implicit promise of Walt Disney that I grew up with,

849
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Speaker 2: that you grew up with, and that a lot of

850
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: people listening not only did they, they expected that their

851
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Speaker 2: kids or their grandkids would have the same explicit or

852
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: implicit promise from Disney.

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Speaker 3: And it was as follows, we.

854
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Speaker 2: Are going to expose your children to beautiful stories of

855
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Speaker 2: the good guys triumphing over evil, and it's going to

856
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Speaker 2: be creative, and it's going to expose them to beautiful

857
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Speaker 2: music and to creativity and it's going to be wondrous.

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Speaker 2: And instead we got the head of Disney talking about

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Speaker 2: how we need more trans, non binary and sexually fluid

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Speaker 2: and pan sexual characters. And they've started to actually put

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Speaker 2: that stuff, not to start it to for recent in

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Speaker 2: recent years put that stuff in their content. And so

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Speaker 2: the moment that the you know, the corporate entity that

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Speaker 2: you thought was was, you know, safe for your kids,

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Speaker 2: I can't even think of a brand that that feels

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Speaker 2: like more of a betrayal than what, you know, a

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Speaker 2: really major But people say bud Light, okay, fine, but

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Speaker 2: that's about adults, right. No one thinks that bud bud

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Speaker 2: Light wasn't trying to appeal to four year olds and

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Speaker 2: six year olds. And what we see here with Disney

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Speaker 2: is something else. And I think it shows that parents

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Speaker 2: are waking up. And the math here Buck, this is

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Speaker 2: what I think is so key. I'm a capitalist.

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Speaker 3: If the math added up and by going woke, Disney

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Speaker 3: was increasing its brand value and they were increasing the

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Speaker 3: amount of money they could make, then I would say, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know what this may I may disagree with it,

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Speaker 3: but there's a logically sound business purpose to it, All

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Speaker 3: of the numbers reflect that that isn't true. What you

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Speaker 3: gain by going woke, you are more than losing on

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Speaker 3: the other side of the equation. It's basic math and

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Speaker 3: it's bad business. And that, to me is the argument

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Speaker 3: that Republicans can make to go beyond why woke is wrong, right,

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Speaker 3: we disagree with it from a cultural perspective, it's also

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Speaker 3: really bad business, and that to me is what you're

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Speaker 3: seeing in these numbers that are coming out. I totally go.

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Speaker 2: Let's open the lines up. I got a few things

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Speaker 2: here if you want to talk about either if you

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Speaker 2: feel like Disney has betrayed your kids, we.

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Speaker 3: Want to hear a few.

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Speaker 2: But also if you got we got on a lot

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Speaker 2: of people waiting, so we'll try to get to some

893
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Speaker 2: of your thoughts on where we stand here with the

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Speaker 2: political situation as it plays out and Donald Trump possibly

895
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Speaker 2: facing charges. So you all know that we are honored

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Speaker 2: to be partners here with the Tunnel to Towers Foundation

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Speaker 2: that does such amazing work for our heroes, for fallen

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Speaker 2: the families of fallen service members, first responders provide so

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Speaker 2: much help and assistance for them. Well, you know my wife,

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Speaker 2: Carrie is doing the Tunnel to Towers climb in New

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Speaker 2: York City the first week of June because she loves

902
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Speaker 2: this organization too. So this is an organization, just so

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Speaker 2: we're clear. They do things like through the Veteran Homelessness Program,

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Speaker 2: Tunnel to Towers provides housing and services to homeless veterans.

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Speaker 2: They were able to help five hundred veterans last year.

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Speaker 2: This year they're hoping to help more than fifteen hundred veterans.

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Speaker 2: Because people who put their lives in the line for

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Speaker 2: our country and our communities need your help now more

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Speaker 2: than ever. So if you would, you can go to

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Speaker 2: t twot dot org. As you know, that's t the

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Speaker 2: number two t dot org and if you want to

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Speaker 2: help carry this all, one hundred percent of this goes

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Speaker 2: directly to Tunnelta Towers. The same thing she's at run

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Speaker 2: sign up dot com slash Sexton. That's run sign up

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Speaker 2: slash Sexton.

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Speaker 3: She's part of a team that is going to be

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Speaker 3: doing the tunnela Towers climb in New York City the

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Speaker 3: first week of June. So one more time, that's run

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Speaker 3: sign up dot com slash Sexton. Donate to the tunnela

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Speaker 3: Towers Foundation. I donate every month. Clay donates every month.

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Speaker 3: It's such a worthy organization, speaking truth and having fun.

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Speaker 1: Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton