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Speaker 2: Well the highlights of training camp.
Speaker 1: We'll kick off on Thursday the dropping of this episode
Speaker 1: of the Bears et Cetera podcast, version number eighty five
Speaker 1: for eighty five Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom Thayer.
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals joined the party as the Bears wrap
Speaker 1: up the fan portion of training camp and get ready
Speaker 1: to meet the Bengals Saturday at Soldier Field. Welcome every one.
Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Joniac and our Bears, etcetera. Podcast is brought
Speaker 1: to you by Miller Light. Obviously we're taking this before
Speaker 1: the practice, Tom, but the fact that the Bengals are
Speaker 1: flying in for this one practice. We always look forward
Speaker 1: to these joint practice sessions, whether it could be a factor,
Speaker 1: and that'll be a big part of this whole thing, obviously,
Speaker 1: but it's great to see another team here to take
Speaker 1: on the Bears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just continue the process of production that
Speaker 3: the Bears have had day in and day out of
Speaker 3: training camp. I really do think there was not a
Speaker 3: day that there was a setback. I think they got
Speaker 3: something accomplished every single day. And you know me, Jeff,
Speaker 3: I'm not in really favor of having no pads, but
Speaker 3: even when they were in no pads, they got something accomplished,
Speaker 3: whether it was mentally the speed of the game or
Speaker 3: just kind of carrying some mistakes or mishaps that have happened.
Speaker 3: So I'm not walking away from this training camp with
Speaker 3: my head down thinking, Wow, you know this team needs
Speaker 3: to get a lot better. No, they just need to
Speaker 3: continue the process of improvement.
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Speaker 1: ounces has practice rolled on this week Time the return
Speaker 1: in pads of Rochean Johnson, Kyler, Gordon Tyreek, Stevenson, Nate Davis, Montes, Sweat,
Speaker 1: and Terrell Smith in some cases limited, but back in
Speaker 1: pads and getting back out there doing football things. After
Speaker 1: several weeks for Gordon, I still have not seen the
Speaker 1: return of Jakwan Brisker just yet. Bates is out conin Johnson,
Speaker 1: Noah Sua, DeAndre Carter's still working their way back. But
Speaker 1: things are headed in the right direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, it's encouraging. I love seeing Montese
Speaker 3: sweat out there. I like watching them during one on
Speaker 3: ones because the one thing about Montest Sweat when you
Speaker 3: put him on eleven on eleven, you can see the
Speaker 3: type of player he is and how he compliments the
Speaker 3: other guys on the defensive line at the linebacker position.
Speaker 3: But when you put him in a one on one scenario,
Speaker 3: when you know exactly what the drill is and what
Speaker 3: you're trying to do, that's when he really shines. He's
Speaker 3: a good football player, he's a good athlete. He's a
Speaker 3: big guy, and he really allows the Darnell Rights of
Speaker 3: the Worldarry Borhams and the different guys he goes against
Speaker 3: do I prove at their skills as well.
Speaker 4: So it's encouraging.
Speaker 3: But then you know, you talk about Jakwan Brisker not
Speaker 3: being on the practice field, but Elijah Hicks is doing
Speaker 3: well he's a guy that's getting fed some reps.
Speaker 4: Like we saw last year when there is.
Speaker 3: Injuries in the defensive backfield, of these guys that are
Speaker 3: stepping up and they're playing with the first team defense,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't look like there's a hole in the defense.
Speaker 3: So the guys that are filling in for these guys
Speaker 3: that you mentioned are injured, they're expected to play at
Speaker 3: the same level.
Speaker 1: iFIT even talking about Jonathan Owens. John Owens played a
Speaker 1: physical game against the Buffalo Bills. He's threw his body
Speaker 1: around with a reckless abandon out there as he returned
Speaker 1: from France after Simon Bios captured three gold medals. He's
Speaker 1: ready to play football too, and he really had a
Speaker 1: couple of good seasons back to back, one in Houston
Speaker 1: one with the Green Bay Packers. So I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see him in a role for the Bears as well
Speaker 1: as special teams.
Speaker 3: So am I I'm excited now after I seen him
Speaker 3: come and deliver some hits during the game. I'm excited
Speaker 3: when he gets an expanded opportunity to play in some
Speaker 3: regular defense, but I think on special teams he can
Speaker 3: kind of He's come in with the reputation of being
Speaker 3: a quality special teams player, and I don't think it's
Speaker 3: going to disappoint anybody.
Speaker 1: I want to talk something about defense and Austin Booker,
Speaker 1: Tom and for that matter, Daniel Hardy. We'll hear him
Speaker 1: on Bears Weekly on Thursday night as well after an
Speaker 1: interview with him. They both had terrific games against Buffalo
Speaker 1: and Eric Washington, the defensive coordinator, went in detail the
Speaker 1: other day about Booker.
Speaker 2: That he never gave up on his rushes.
Speaker 1: He says that he's pleased with his approach physical with
Speaker 1: his rushers and that innate feel that you keep referring
Speaker 1: to about Booker, he sees it and he said this,
Speaker 1: and from an offensive lineman's perspective, I'd like your reaction
Speaker 1: to this, he said. Good rushers are hard to hit
Speaker 1: and stall. They go at it max speed with their
Speaker 1: counter and when they engage their hands, they don't slow
Speaker 1: down and allow that protection to catch up.
Speaker 2: To the rusher.
Speaker 1: You, as an offensive lineman, can really feel and see
Speaker 1: what he's trying to say there.
Speaker 2: Do you see that with this rusher?
Speaker 1: And Austin Booker, who played less than five hundred snaps
Speaker 1: in his college career, So this is innate. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have a ton of experience. He's only twenty one years old.
Speaker 3: Right, the word in ac So I want to say
Speaker 3: something and I and it's not disrespectful because I talked
Speaker 3: about when you have a guy like Montes Swet going
Speaker 3: through one on ones, he makes the offensive player better,
Speaker 3: but he also shows the skills, the size, and the
Speaker 3: strength that he has. Austin Booker is a better game
Speaker 3: player than he is a one on one player. And
Speaker 3: I mean that respectfully because, like I said, when the
Speaker 3: opponent knows exactly what you're doing, he's going to be
Speaker 3: able to guard everything against what he doesn't want to
Speaker 3: give up. Okay, I'm not going to give him the inside.
Speaker 3: If he goes to an outside move, I'm going to
Speaker 3: try to push him outside.
Speaker 4: So much that he can't get into the path of
Speaker 4: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: It's a down in distance and you're playing regular offense
Speaker 3: against Austin Booker, he's more effective. That's just what I've
Speaker 3: seen in the early stages of Austin Booker's career. And again,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this disrespectfully. I'm saying it respectfully. And
Speaker 3: it's kind of what Eric is saying that when you
Speaker 3: just allow Austin Booker to go there and play football.
Speaker 3: He's a football player. He's not trying to follow a
Speaker 3: script of step one two, slap right, slap left. It's okay,
Speaker 3: forced off the line of scrimmage, get the offensive lineman off, bounce,
Speaker 3: slap his hands immediately, and then I'm in the path
Speaker 3: with the quarterback. So I'm really excited to watch Austin
Speaker 3: Booker in the games, probably more than I'm excited to
Speaker 3: see him in one on ones.
Speaker 2: And one on ones you're talking about practice, correct, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Correct, just one on ones and when okay, you tell
Speaker 3: the offensive tackle it's on two, So then he's going
Speaker 3: through a cadence and or the offensive tackle knows that
Speaker 3: he's doing a pass blocking responsibility and Austin Booker is
Speaker 3: rushing the passer. When you have a whole different scheme
Speaker 3: and it's eleven on eleven in a game type scenario,
Speaker 3: that's when you see the innate ability of Austin Booker
Speaker 3: to do exactly what we think he's capable of doing.
Speaker 1: And I see similar traits in Daniel Hardy. Now he
Speaker 1: is a shorter prospect, he's got leverage on guys that
Speaker 1: are against the Bengals crying now a loud. These guys
Speaker 1: that tackle are six to eight across the board, and
Speaker 1: the depth chart says so with the guys behind them.
Speaker 1: But he has not had a lot of football in
Speaker 1: his career. He did not play until senior year of
Speaker 1: high school. He was a basketball player. But he's been
Speaker 1: dedicated to the weight room. He's up to two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty pounds. He ran a four to six forty
Speaker 1: out of Montana State coming into the league drafted by
Speaker 1: the LA Rams. He's flashing a lot of movement skills
Speaker 1: and things he's bankrolled here in the year plus he's
Speaker 1: been with the Bears without virtue of a training camp.
Speaker 1: Last year with the Bears, he was on the practice
Speaker 1: squad all year. He got activated for one game against
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But I think we're just starting to see
Speaker 1: some of the new things that he can bring to
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent right. I agree with you.
Speaker 3: He's an interesting character because you know, the more reps
Speaker 3: that Daniel Harding can get on the field, the more
Speaker 3: that he sees run and pass, the more familiar he's
Speaker 3: going to become with the position of defensive end defensive line.
Speaker 3: And he could probably play a three technique defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: And you know, Daniel Harding, he's played an effective role
Speaker 3: on the defensive line no matter if he plays with
Speaker 3: the ones, the twos, or the three since he's been here.
Speaker 3: But now you put him in a game and you
Speaker 3: give him extended amount of snaps and he starts showing
Speaker 3: that he can be a pass rusher. But in order
Speaker 3: to be a pass rusher, you have to learn how
Speaker 3: to play the run first. And that's what I like
Speaker 3: he's complimenting himself in his maturation process of all the
Speaker 3: responsibilities of a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: All right, I want you to answer this as an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I'm going to go back to Washington. So,
Speaker 1: when a guy coming at you at max speed and
Speaker 1: he's doing all his handwork and nothing slowing him down,
Speaker 1: do you have to have the ability as an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman to catch up to the rusher? And if you're not,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's your feet and your hands are not
Speaker 1: tied together.
Speaker 2: Is that what he's referring to.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, first of my first responsibility as an offensive lineman, Jeff,
Speaker 3: is get my hands into your chest to make sure
Speaker 3: I slow down or stalemate or get in control of
Speaker 3: your upper body. If there's a separation between us and
Speaker 3: you're already hand fighting against my hands that are reached out,
Speaker 3: you're in control of me. You're in control of my balance,
Speaker 3: your control of my inability to get my hands to you,
Speaker 3: and you're in control of your positioning on your next step.
Speaker 3: So that's the thing why I always say the snapcount
Speaker 3: is a weapon. If I know the snapcount, and I
Speaker 3: know that I should be able to get up out
Speaker 3: of my stance and give you enough of a punch
Speaker 3: where I put you gets you off balance, or I
Speaker 3: put me in a winning position that I should win
Speaker 3: the rush. And you have these you know Dan Hampton,
Speaker 3: for example, he's got really long arms, and Dan Hampton
Speaker 3: is a guy that rushes with straight arms. If he's
Speaker 3: rushing with straight arms, there's no way I can get
Speaker 3: my hands to his body because his arms are longer
Speaker 3: than mine. And you see these guys that have clever skill,
Speaker 3: like Austin Booker that his feet matt his feet matches hands.
Speaker 3: Now he's in control of the offensive lineman and he's
Speaker 3: controlling their balance. And that's the worst thing an offensive
Speaker 3: lineman can have is when that defender is controlling his balance.
Speaker 1: Well, brought to you by a PNC official Bank of
Speaker 1: the Bears. I happen to see some nineteen sixty nine
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings videotape about it was a story about the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it was actually it was voiced over by Charlton Heston,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: It was a great video. I just watched it the
Speaker 2: other night.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if somebody posted it on X
Speaker 1: and I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 2: It was fascinating. No, I take that back. It was Burt.
Speaker 1: Lancaster, Bert Lancaster. Anyway, The head slap okay outlawed, But Jim,
Speaker 1: Jim Marshall, Alan Page, Carl Eller, those guys were unbelievably
Speaker 1: Deacon Jones of course, but Jim Marshall the head slap,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching this, you know, you forget what's been
Speaker 1: outlawed and the impact. Did you play in an era
Speaker 1: where the head slap was still legal?
Speaker 3: When I played in the USFL, they allowed it. When
Speaker 3: I played in the NFL they didn't allow But I
Speaker 3: take this into consideration, Jeff, because our Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: coach Dick Stanfeld used to talk about it all the time.
Speaker 3: So offensive lineman at that point they used to have
Speaker 3: to block with their fists up against their chest.
Speaker 4: And now you.
Speaker 3: Think real distance, yes, then you think about the distance
Speaker 3: how defensive lineman could get to you as you are
Speaker 3: trying to block them like this. Now they're coming and
Speaker 3: they're head slapping you and getting and they you know,
Speaker 3: they're in control of your balance. And Dick Stanfold used
Speaker 3: to say about a guy like Bob Lilly, who's one
Speaker 3: of the greatest defensive linemen in the history of the
Speaker 3: National Football League. He goes, I didn't care if Bob
Speaker 3: Lily was head slapping me as long as he wasn't
Speaker 3: going around me. So I just stood there and held
Speaker 3: my ground and widened out with my elbows. And then
Speaker 3: they converted and allowed the offensive linemen to start start
Speaker 3: extending their arms with their hands open. And that kind
Speaker 3: that took that took away the distance that didn't allow
Speaker 3: the head slap to happen as much as it did
Speaker 3: when they couldn't extend their arms.
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me so for those who
Speaker 1: don't know the you know, they remember the electric football
Speaker 1: games and the and the little player. The players did
Speaker 1: have their their fists against their chest. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: how you're supposed to play football. I can't imagine playing
Speaker 1: football without your hands, I mean either. I mean, man,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about?
Speaker 3: In my whole life, as from Pop Warner to high
Speaker 3: school to college, they allowed you to extend under your
Speaker 3: arms and you know, and open with an open hand,
Speaker 3: be able to strike. And that's what we're talking about
Speaker 3: the pass protection responsibilities nowadays. When you look at an
Speaker 3: offensive tackle going against Austin Booker, Montes Sweat, they want
Speaker 3: to come out of the stance and they want to
Speaker 3: pop you in the chest. And as soon as they
Speaker 3: can pop you in the chest and create that stalemate
Speaker 3: or they can be in control of their next move,
Speaker 3: then the offensive tackle has created the winning edge. And
Speaker 3: that's why you always see what is the arsenal of
Speaker 3: moves for talented defensive ends and pass rushing.
Speaker 1: All right, let's sit down with a pass blocker, the
Speaker 1: veteran left tackle Braxton Jones, our special guest this week
Speaker 1: on Bears et cetera. All right, Braxton, how you doing,
Speaker 1: my man? Can you believe how much time has passed already?
Speaker 1: I mean, we just remember you when you were a
Speaker 1: rook Now you're a vet.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. I mean, it definitely flies by, but
Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's it's been a great opportunity
Speaker 5: to get the amount of experience that I've gotten every
Speaker 5: rep and you know, every year is just it's just
Speaker 5: been great going through adversity, injuries and everything. But yeah,
Speaker 5: we're here, and uh it feels it feels great.
Speaker 1: If I can't do you ever because I do this
Speaker 1: all the time, maybe maybe you don't you think about
Speaker 1: you think back to where you did begin. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: kind of take stock of like how far you've come.
Speaker 4: Do you ever do that?
Speaker 5: Uh? I mean I definitely do that, uh frequently. It
Speaker 5: definitely pops up every once in a while, but try
Speaker 5: not to, you know, do it too much. But when
Speaker 5: when it does happen, it's a it's a good moment.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's definitely like, you know, it's been a
Speaker 5: long journey journey from you know, a little league from
Speaker 5: from it all and then you know, getting drafted by
Speaker 5: the Bears. It's just it's just been an amazing situation
Speaker 5: going to a small school everything like that, and then
Speaker 5: you know, maybe not having as much expectations coming out
Speaker 5: and starting. So I definitely look back and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: thought of a lot of accomplishments, but I think, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, my my best ball is still ahead of me,
Speaker 5: and uh you know, uh looking forward to continuing that.
Speaker 2: Do you do you then look at that?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've just bankrolled a couple of strong seasons,
Speaker 1: I started a lot of games already. Do you feel
Speaker 1: the expectations for yourself?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean as as just the human being that's
Speaker 5: you know, wants to be better every time they go
Speaker 5: out on that field and wants the best outcome for themselves.
Speaker 5: Of course you're going to fill those expectations, but it's
Speaker 5: my job and my duty to make those expectations not
Speaker 5: as big as they are or however you see that
Speaker 5: just kind of it's just how it is. It's a
Speaker 5: little bit everything into you know, a small binder, trying
Speaker 5: to figure everything out and just going out there and
Speaker 5: performing because I know since day one, I know my
Speaker 5: ability and what I can do. I just got to
Speaker 5: be confident in it and just continuing to do that
Speaker 5: and being being great snapping and step in.
Speaker 1: So does it help that you've had the same offensive
Speaker 1: line coach as opposed to changing a.
Speaker 5: Lot, Yeah, I mean, of course it creates this ability
Speaker 5: to have some consistency. So it's been great having the
Speaker 5: same offensive line coach and just you know, that's going
Speaker 5: to help anybody in terms of, you know, their experience
Speaker 5: in the league. Not having switching out every every year.
Speaker 5: Just it allows me to be more consistent and get
Speaker 5: right with my technique and continue to get better each
Speaker 5: and every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine the conversations are great too with
Speaker 1: Chris Morgan, just because now you know each other very well.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what would upset him, you
Speaker 1: know what what he likes. Do you guys have honest
Speaker 1: conversations even just non football, You guys get to know
Speaker 1: each other on a different level.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, one hundred. I mean I have a I
Speaker 5: would say a really good relationship with my offensive line coach,
Speaker 5: and just we've kind of, you know, really built that
Speaker 5: over these first three years of just kind of knowing
Speaker 5: how I need to communicate, knowing how he communicates to me,
Speaker 5: and just having that best relationship, knowing kind of how
Speaker 5: how he likes things done, and kind of it's just
Speaker 5: that player coach relationship and it's a it's a really
Speaker 5: good relationship. So I'm and it continues to build a
Speaker 5: day in day out.
Speaker 1: We keep talking about continuity as the goal, obviously, and
Speaker 1: then that usually leads to success. Uh but you and
Speaker 1: and Tevin on the left side of the line, that's
Speaker 1: that's where your main concern is right now, Just who's
Speaker 1: playing next to you? Right and you guys now have
Speaker 1: bankrolled a lot of time together before we get into
Speaker 1: that part of it.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's changed his haircut more than this guy.
Speaker 4: Now he's got another.
Speaker 1: One, right, you guys, You guys get at him a
Speaker 1: little bit about that.
Speaker 2: He's always trying something new.
Speaker 1: I I like his idea, but now he's got another
Speaker 1: he rolled out or another one today.
Speaker 5: I think, Uh yeah, Tevin, Tevin, Tevin seven. I mean,
Speaker 5: he's a character. He's always changing something, and I think
Speaker 5: he enjoys like I think he genuinely enjoys like the
Speaker 5: light of having something new, because he genuinely does have
Speaker 5: a lot of changes in his haircuts. But you know,
Speaker 5: I thought this this change was a good change for
Speaker 5: him and a little shorter, yeah short, it's definitely way shorter,
Speaker 5: yep cut. Yeah, you know, he got got himself a
Speaker 5: little fade up there. So I think it looks good
Speaker 5: on him. But it is funny seeing him go through
Speaker 5: his phases of you know, long hair and then poofy
Speaker 5: hair and then a fro. It's it's just you don't
Speaker 5: know what you're gonna get. And I think I think
Speaker 5: it's kind of cool, like you're in, you're out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going.
Speaker 1: It's like you go on the college websites to look
Speaker 1: back at your careers and they you know, they have
Speaker 1: the four photos of your four years or five years
Speaker 1: or six years, and how you guys, you see the
Speaker 1: maturity in the face, you know, you go from a
Speaker 1: young man to a man. Yeah, short period of time.
Speaker 2: All right. How about the football aspect of it?
Speaker 1: Just the the unspoken communication level that you guys may
Speaker 1: have at this moment that would you say it's at
Speaker 1: a high level right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, me and Tevin definitely have a high level of communication.
Speaker 5: And you know, we've been building this for a little
Speaker 5: bit now, and I think the biggest thing is I
Speaker 5: just you know, we communicate about everything when things go wrong,
Speaker 5: when things go right, Just having that open line of communication,
Speaker 5: making sure we're both on the same page and we
Speaker 5: dwell on it. We we sit there and really try
Speaker 5: and figure things out, and sometimes we can, you know,
Speaker 5: move on to things quicker than other. But I think
Speaker 5: it's a good thing to really be looking at both
Speaker 5: our situations trying to get the best because at the
Speaker 5: end of the day, it's me and him helping each
Speaker 5: other to be the best that we can be. And
Speaker 5: you know, I'm just trying to help Tevin to be
Speaker 5: the best he can be and get where he's trying
Speaker 5: to go. So it's just a it's a great open
Speaker 5: line of communication, and you know, I'm just glad to
Speaker 5: continue to keep on building that and get better with
Speaker 5: him always.
Speaker 1: So the offense under Shane Waldron and the same family
Speaker 1: of offenses in the previous system, so please tell me
Speaker 1: they still got that power sweep with the tackle leading
Speaker 1: out in front right, ask my favorite play for you.
Speaker 1: I know it's been something we've used in the past.
Speaker 1: So it's an outside zone team, I get it, But
Speaker 1: I just love.
Speaker 4: The power seat.
Speaker 2: Don't you love that play? Yeah? Pull a tackle?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, I mean, and it's there. We have it in
Speaker 5: different different ways and I'm sure we'll get to different variations,
Speaker 5: but it will definitely be there. I mean, when you
Speaker 5: have two tackles especially Darnell so athletic and so big
Speaker 5: and can get out in space and do a variety
Speaker 5: of things. I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely going to
Speaker 5: be there. But can't you know, show all your tricks
Speaker 5: and stuff soon. But yeah, we'll get there and we'll
Speaker 5: get that, get that rolling all right.
Speaker 1: Here, here's the million dollar question. Why is Braxton Jones better?
Speaker 1: You're in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: I would say my biggest thing in that I've been
Speaker 5: working on here with our mental co w too, is
Speaker 5: just my mental and being able to put things behind me,
Speaker 5: you know, in the previous years, being young, and you know,
Speaker 5: trying to be the best I can always. That's that's
Speaker 5: my biggest thing. Is I'm being the best for the
Speaker 5: Chicago Bears and the organization, trying to be the best
Speaker 5: for all the fans out there. And that's my biggest thing.
Speaker 5: And so sometimes I can put a little bit too
Speaker 5: much pressure on myself doing so so now you know,
Speaker 5: when something does go wrong, being able to reset my
Speaker 5: mind and being like, okay, next play, let's let's focus
Speaker 5: on the pass and not turning one mistake into two
Speaker 5: mistakes and so forth. So that's my biggest thing is
Speaker 5: having a good mental. Even today, I had a mishaps
Speaker 5: and you know, a faalse start and just not turning
Speaker 5: that into more plays later in practice, just wiping it real,
Speaker 5: real quick and just getting onto the next play. I
Speaker 5: think that's my biggest thing, is just my my mental
Speaker 5: and being strong that way and confident in what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Did you tend to slip into that in the first
Speaker 2: couple of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I definitely. I wouldn't say, you know, is
Speaker 5: that bad or something to you know, be that cautious of.
Speaker 5: But it was definitely something where you know, I'd have
Speaker 5: one mishap or one bad play and I'd just turn
Speaker 5: it into multiple just because I'm trying to get it
Speaker 5: right so quick. Instead of flushing it and just being
Speaker 5: being myself and going back up to the line and
Speaker 5: you know, getting back into the next play, I'd live
Speaker 5: in in the past. And I think that's the biggest thing,
Speaker 5: just mentally understanding that, you know, there's seventy, you know
Speaker 5: upwards to you know, sixty to seventy plays in a game,
Speaker 5: and obviously one play will matter, but being able to
Speaker 5: flush flush one of those plays and get to the
Speaker 5: next and it's really important in this league because you know,
Speaker 5: everybody's so so talented in this league and you're going
Speaker 5: to get beat once in a while. But the thing
Speaker 5: is is being able to eliminate that and be consistent
Speaker 5: and not turn one tough play into.
Speaker 1: Multiple interesting As long as this league has been around,
Speaker 1: this was one hundred and fifty year for this franchise.
Speaker 1: Once upon a time they didn't have that option. You know,
Speaker 1: they weren't made available like now.
Speaker 2: Staffs are full.
Speaker 1: Of all different types of things to get the most
Speaker 1: out of a player. How how gratefully are you that
Speaker 1: that's now the case here in the National Football League
Speaker 1: and with this organization.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I mean it's a big thing.
Speaker 5: You know, these guys are We're all in here working
Speaker 5: and to be the best we can, and things do
Speaker 5: happen on the field that you know might not go
Speaker 5: your way. So it's just have those type of resources
Speaker 5: to go to and build mental fortitude and mental strength
Speaker 5: and just get that consistency within your mind. Is huge
Speaker 5: and it just has helped me a lot over the
Speaker 5: beginning of this season, and you know, obviously for time
Speaker 5: to come.
Speaker 1: So did you feel more comfortable now as a veteran
Speaker 1: to have a larger voice on that line or in
Speaker 1: just the offense in general. Often talk about having alpha's
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. You feel that you could be
Speaker 1: that person?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's you know, continuously building
Speaker 5: and I definitely can you know, have a say in
Speaker 5: certain things and definitely speak of for for the group
Speaker 5: and being able to lead by my words obviously, And
Speaker 5: I think it's a big thing for our group right now.
Speaker 5: Is really you know, maintaining uh a great great leadership
Speaker 5: is you know, I all feel that we're fairly young
Speaker 5: and and stuff like that. So I mean it is
Speaker 5: one of those years to step up and really, uh
Speaker 5: be be that leader for the group.
Speaker 1: For Can you imagine what the innovation will be when
Speaker 1: you guys roll in the soldier field on Saturday afternoon
Speaker 1: when the I mean if the offense is introduced. Uh,
Speaker 1: not just because of all you guys, but you know,
Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams, the excitement is off the charts. I
Speaker 1: imagine he's gonna get a nice big verbal hug from
Speaker 1: the fans, don't you think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I mean, as he should.
Speaker 5: He's coming here and done everything, all the work he's
Speaker 5: needed to do, and he's just impressed everybody day and
Speaker 5: day out and just continuously getting one percent better every day.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of the biggest thing I've noticed in
Speaker 5: all my respect out to him. He does not have
Speaker 5: an easy job back there. Man. It's definitely a tough
Speaker 5: thing to do, and I think people look over that sometimes. So,
Speaker 5: you know, him getting into Soldier field, I should. I'm
Speaker 5: sure they'll be there welcoming him and it'll be great.
Speaker 5: But he deserves it all and I'm just excited to
Speaker 5: continue this journey.
Speaker 2: Last one.
Speaker 1: Do you get a feel yet for how he moves
Speaker 1: in and around the pocket, because he's not exactly ejecting,
Speaker 1: just because he's always looking to make a play, And
Speaker 1: it was no more in evidence against Buffalo. I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to scratch my head how he threw a perfect
Speaker 1: spiral on that forty two yard catch and run by
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, or how he was in mid air with
Speaker 1: his head legs dangling in the air and got in
Speaker 1: his body square to throw to Comet on the sideline.
Speaker 2: I mean, so many good things.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys, do you guys feel you're
Speaker 1: in a good paste for the opener to get a
Speaker 1: feel for the quarterback and vice versa.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I mean, you know, he
Speaker 5: does a really good his pocket presence is uh is
Speaker 5: really good, and yeah, definitely getting used to that and
Speaker 5: just being being in certain situations where he he might
Speaker 5: like to be and just putting myself in the best
Speaker 5: position so he feels the uh comfortable in every situation.
Speaker 5: But in terms of him, you know, making plays outside
Speaker 5: the pocket, I mean, that's going to happen. He's he's
Speaker 5: when he's an elite playmaker like he is and always
Speaker 5: trying to get the ball to somewhere you know, we
Speaker 5: can make a play. I mean, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: We're gonna be on the move and we're gonna have
Speaker 5: to be you know, blocking for extended extended periods of time.
Speaker 5: So I think as all line and that's you know,
Speaker 5: you couldn't ask for more when somebody's just trying to
Speaker 5: make a play. So it's a great feeling kind of
Speaker 5: knowing that he's back there doing that, and it's our
Speaker 5: job as offensive linemen too, you know, make him feel
Speaker 5: comfortable and be able to operate anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 4: Thank you, good luck to you, appreciate it, thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, Tommy.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately you were unable to join us because I forgot
Speaker 1: a cord and I was not able to get you
Speaker 1: on zoom and into my board. So I apologize because
Speaker 1: I left. I let a lot on the cutting room
Speaker 1: floor with your knowledge of offensive line play. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure you had plenty of questions. Did he answer any
Speaker 1: of the questions you would have asked him?
Speaker 3: You know, you know, Jeff, and I was thinking of
Speaker 3: an episode of Seinfeld. There's an episode of Seinfeld where
Speaker 3: George he says, you always want to leave and leave
Speaker 3: them wanting more. So you say something clever and a
Speaker 3: team on a work atmosphere, everybody's laughing, then you leave
Speaker 3: the room. Braxton Jones never leaves me wanting more. The
Speaker 3: kid is so intelligent, I say I kid respectfully, because
Speaker 3: he's so much younger than me that the fact that
Speaker 3: he tells you complete answers, he is vocabulary is second
Speaker 3: to none. He understands the question that you asked of him,
Speaker 3: and he answers it specifically and perfectly. And so I
Speaker 3: don't know if there is any more questions than I
Speaker 3: would have asked Braxton, I would have maybe asked him,
Speaker 3: you know, because you asked him early, what's difference between
Speaker 3: you now and when you got here?
Speaker 4: And he kind of explained it.
Speaker 3: I would ask, what's the difference in your strength from
Speaker 3: the time you got out of college to where you're
Speaker 3: at right now?
Speaker 4: Are you a lot stronger.
Speaker 3: Maybe in your lower body or your upper body than
Speaker 3: you were when you came out from college? And I
Speaker 3: would because that would interest me because he's always talked
Speaker 3: about the type of things that he's susceptible to. I
Speaker 3: don't want to talk about him because I don't like
Speaker 3: him doing that. But the susceptibility of he talked about
Speaker 3: that can be cured with strength confidence. Will you notice that, yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. It's again going back to what we've
Speaker 3: been talking about. If you see that punch from him
Speaker 3: doing a defensive defensive end and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: that defensive end, his head pops up or his upper
Speaker 3: body of stalemate it for that instant, you can see
Speaker 3: that he is delivering a controlled punch to the defensive
Speaker 3: ends he's playing against. But he also has super talented
Speaker 3: feet that he can use his length as an asset
Speaker 3: as much as he can.
Speaker 4: Strength.
Speaker 1: Quite the congenial guy, no question, so respectful. When he
Speaker 1: hits to the podium, he greets, everyone wishes him well,
Speaker 1: thanks for their time. You know, he's like just the
Speaker 1: opposite of what you would think a nasty offensive lineman
Speaker 1: would be. But I've seen his blood up on the field,
Speaker 1: so he's got that nasty twitch to him as well,
Speaker 1: and that needs to be a part of offensive blind play.
Speaker 1: You have to and in the trenches that's where it
Speaker 1: all happens. But I do I love the fact that
Speaker 1: I love sweeps. I don't care what kind. I don't care.
Speaker 1: You want to pull Darnell across the formation two, that's fine,
Speaker 1: But a tackle sweep those are beauty. And he gets
Speaker 1: out in space. Braxton can get out in space and
Speaker 1: do some damage.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of pictures that I have because we
Speaker 3: used to call it twenty eight to forty nine near
Speaker 3: goo or ego, and that means me and the backside
Speaker 3: guard mark boards. We would pull and we would lead
Speaker 3: a field and the front side guard had the first
Speaker 3: opposite color jersey coming towards his face.
Speaker 2: Wipe him backside, huh, wipe him out right, yes.
Speaker 3: And then the backside guard would pull around and he
Speaker 3: would take the first inside threat. It could be a linebacker,
Speaker 3: it could be a safety, and so you had those
Speaker 3: opportunities of hitting a smaller guy while you were running
Speaker 3: full speed, and it was just a treat of a
Speaker 3: play to take Walter Payton, Matt Suey, Neil Anderson, whomever,
Speaker 3: Dennis Gent whomever was behind us.
Speaker 4: You know, a path up the field.
Speaker 1: Well, you know in this system, obviously outside zone, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more perimeter runs with guys. And
Speaker 1: if you've got speed in the backfield, which you certainly do.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift is showing me just how swift he is
Speaker 1: with every passing minute. You know, we've seen it. He's
Speaker 1: done it in college and in the NFL. Kalil Herbert
Speaker 1: certainly can break something off forty fifty yards and be gone.
Speaker 1: It's those inside runs though, that you know when you
Speaker 1: see guys, and we saw it on hard knocks and
Speaker 1: the videotape granted some of it.
Speaker 2: In pads. Sometimes it's not and they're.
Speaker 1: Not tackling, but Ian Wheeler can blow through the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and he's a blur four three eight speed
Speaker 1: Baylist Jones as he tries to figure out what his
Speaker 1: role will be. He's got that ability to turn the
Speaker 1: corner and hit the gas, and now can he do
Speaker 1: it between the tackles. There's a bevy of opportunities and
Speaker 1: Roa Shawn Johnson, He'll just run you over. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just likes running you over.
Speaker 3: Let me say one thing about that play. Yeah, Ian Wheeler,
Speaker 3: he has repetitiously done it enough so he knows what
Speaker 3: he's thinking, maybe a second or two before it happens
Speaker 3: in front of him. I did see a play at
Speaker 3: practice that Veayleis Jones took it to the outside right
Speaker 3: and you could see the vision where he had to
Speaker 3: use vision in order to pre predict how the hole
Speaker 3: was going to open up. And when his vision took
Speaker 3: him to that area, once he opened it up, there
Speaker 3: was no catching him. So that was super encouraging to me.
Speaker 3: Is when you talk about all those other guys that
Speaker 3: have repped the running back and the running back position
Speaker 3: and the different plays and how they use him, Vyleas
Speaker 3: doesn't have that experience yet, but you kind of saw
Speaker 3: him sneaking some of that experience in practice and when
Speaker 3: he gets to that second and a half. The third level,
Speaker 3: you're going to become a chaser.
Speaker 2: And he's thick, he's not he's a big back, and
Speaker 2: he's a big back.
Speaker 1: He's got strepped. Yeah, he's six feet plus and two
Speaker 1: two something. I know the play you're talking about. It
Speaker 1: was a bit of a hesitation and then bam right correct, Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 2: A thickly built dude. He's gonna play special teams.
Speaker 1: He's outstanding at that, but he's getting a lot of
Speaker 1: third down opportunities.
Speaker 4: Tommy.
Speaker 3: You know, Jeff, when you see all these guys, all
Speaker 3: of you mentioned in including Homer, you know the tight
Speaker 3: end in the running back position is not going to
Speaker 3: be an easy decision to make because that's a talented
Speaker 3: two position that are instrumental in the overall success of
Speaker 3: these offense. We know Keenan, we know Rome, we know
Speaker 3: DJ we know all those guys. However, there's talented tight
Speaker 3: ends and there's talented running backs here. So I think
Speaker 3: that whatever reps they get in practice against Cincinnati in
Speaker 3: the games themselves, it's going to play. It's a important
Speaker 3: role in the decision making process of Ryan Poles and
Speaker 3: the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: I am disappointed that, as far as we know Zach Taylor,
Speaker 1: we mentioned this in the earlier podcast this week and
Speaker 1: version eighty four, that the Bengals are not planning to
Speaker 1: use most of their starters, that includes Joe Burrow. I
Speaker 1: get it, Joe Burrows been banged up a lot in
Speaker 1: his career and they want to keep him healthy, but
Speaker 1: I really would have loved to see him again one
Speaker 1: series last week. I think he had a twelve play drive. Well,
Speaker 1: what's your feel of the Bengals. Yes, we can talk
Speaker 1: about the star players of Burrow and Chase and those guys,
Speaker 1: but we'll be facing guys that are trying to make
Speaker 1: this team in second stringers.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I really don't care what the opponent's decision are about
Speaker 3: playing time, because that is not in your control. Every
Speaker 3: single guy for the Chicago Bears, every single play they get,
Speaker 3: every single assignment, make it a positive. As in your
Speaker 3: interview with Braxon, he talked about dwelling on some of
Speaker 3: the bad plays you don't need to do that. Just
Speaker 3: go out there and play the most aggressive brand of
Speaker 3: football against other guys that are trying out.
Speaker 4: For an NFL football team.
Speaker 3: You're not shipping in a small college team to come
Speaker 3: and play the Bears on Saturday. This is a group
Speaker 3: of guys that are as hungry to make an NFL
Speaker 3: team as there is across the board.
Speaker 4: So you better concentrate on what you do, and you
Speaker 4: better do it well.
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Speaker 1: the temperature of the stadium will be with the fans
Speaker 1: when Caleb Williams is introduced.
Speaker 3: Gosh, you know, I would almost I would almost introduce
Speaker 3: the defense for this game, and I would save Caleb
Speaker 3: for the first game of the regular season, because I've
Speaker 3: been thinking about that all off season, and I know
Speaker 3: I've asked you about it, and pretty much everybody says
Speaker 3: the first regular season game of the year, I think
Speaker 3: they should introduce the offense. So Saturday, I'm introducing Montese Sweat,
Speaker 3: TJ Edwards, Trumaine Edward, you know Tremaine Edmunds, and the
Speaker 3: whole cast of characters that are as flamboyant and confident
Speaker 3: as any defensive group that I've seen here in.
Speaker 1: A while, Tom, when you get a chance to watch
Speaker 1: hard Knocks, Uh, I want you to watch. I want
Speaker 1: you to watch Jalen Johnson and Keenan Allen one on ones,
Speaker 1: in team or other drills. I mean, Jalen Johnson, you're
Speaker 1: getting a true feel for what his abilities are when
Speaker 1: you when you isolate on tape and watch him work
Speaker 1: and his ability to move his feet maintain an ideal
Speaker 1: separation so that it's not so much that you lose
Speaker 1: ground in your you're in catch up mode. And his
Speaker 1: ability to flip his hips and be around the ball
Speaker 1: on every single target, to Keenan Allen is crazy, including
Speaker 1: one of the best interceptions you'll ever see. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how it even happened, And the two of
Speaker 1: them talked about it. How it happened. They have no idea. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is the kind of guy we're getting here who's
Speaker 1: uber confident and ready to really rock it off, not
Speaker 1: just tof I mean rocket. If he continues to stay
Speaker 1: healthy and makes plays on the ball like this, they're
Speaker 1: not going to throw in his direction at all. So
Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevenson, Kyler Gordon and whoever's playing dB get ready
Speaker 1: because you know Jalen is just shutting it down.
Speaker 3: Good listen, man, I've been begging for alpha males inside
Speaker 3: that locker room for a long time now, and I
Speaker 3: don't care what position they come from, and it has
Speaker 3: to come from the back of the defense forward.
Speaker 4: So be it. Because when you look at the division
Speaker 4: and you look at what.
Speaker 3: Your recovers responsibilities are going to be, there's some good
Speaker 3: players in this division, every single team. And you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard the news that JJ
Speaker 3: McCarthy is out for the season, so it's going to
Speaker 3: be quarterback development there. But there are plenty of athletes
Speaker 3: from the wide receiver position in this division that they're
Speaker 3: going to have their hands full all season long.
Speaker 1: I mean, once you have to say that Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: is still the best play you're in the division.
Speaker 3: Up unto this point. Yeah, this is a whole new year.
Speaker 3: I mean, only you know, you're only good. You're only
Speaker 3: good last year, Like now, it's let's all, let's all
Speaker 3: start this thing again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's plenty to worry about, that's for sure. We're
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Speaker 1: Let's touch on that JJ McCarthy tormentiscus. A repair is
Speaker 1: necessary and his season is over. I'm sure fans there
Speaker 1: are are bemoaning that fact, obviously, as they look always
Speaker 1: to a first round pick quarterback to make some noise
Speaker 1: early in their careers. So Sam Donald and whoever or
Speaker 1: else they have in that bullpen right now will go
Speaker 1: to work with a very good head coach who knows
Speaker 1: how to get the most out of his quarterback. So
Speaker 1: you know, Sam Donald hasn't reached his potential, but you
Speaker 1: never know.
Speaker 2: You never know. But that's not my that's not my discussion.
Speaker 1: My discussion point is when fans I'm looking at fan
Speaker 1: reaction when they hear about a quarterback in particular that
Speaker 1: gets hurt in his rookie year. Does that make them
Speaker 1: not want to see a guy like Caleb Williams play
Speaker 1: in games here in the preseason for fear of losing
Speaker 1: to an injury.
Speaker 4: You can't play scared.
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the worst things that you
Speaker 3: can tell your team, no matter if you're a position coach,
Speaker 3: a head coach, a president at GM, whatever, you can't
Speaker 3: go out there and play scared.
Speaker 4: You just go out there and play the game.
Speaker 3: And JJ McCarthy went out and played the game and
Speaker 3: he didn't realize what happened. He didn't report it until
Speaker 3: the next day. So it's just an unfortunate incident and
Speaker 3: he's fortunate that it happened so early in his career
Speaker 3: that they will go out there and they will repair it.
Speaker 4: That is the long.
Speaker 3: Term of the healing process, of that type of process
Speaker 3: in the way they're gonna fix it. And hell, he'll
Speaker 3: go out there and have an eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 3: whatever year you know, career he's gonna have. He's you know,
Speaker 3: he's gonna be fine. And you know, so you can't
Speaker 3: you can't be worried about that that those.
Speaker 4: Types of things.
Speaker 1: All right, I mean to spring this on you as
Speaker 1: we wrap up, but can you give me three guys
Speaker 1: you're looking forward to most seeing play on Saturday at
Speaker 1: noon at Soldier Field against the Cincinnati Bengals. The game
Speaker 1: you'll hear on ESPN one thousand and the Bears Radio
Speaker 1: Network with pregame getting underway at ten AM. Good old
Speaker 1: fashioned noon start will feel like a Sunday Tommy.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go again with Vayalis Jones. I want to
Speaker 3: see what, you know, what he's possibly going to offer you.
Speaker 3: I'll bore you all with an offensive lineman and Jerome
Speaker 3: Carvin because as this season winds on and you look
Speaker 3: for the most valuable game day activations, he's a guy
Speaker 3: that has real interior skills and he's starting to show
Speaker 3: up more and more on the on the docket and
Speaker 3: then you know you brought it, John. I want to
Speaker 3: see Jonathan Owens, Yes, I would like this. I like
Speaker 3: Elijah Hicks and his opportunity. And I still want to
Speaker 3: see more rushes by Austin Booker because if he goes
Speaker 3: into Chicago and he gets a sack in a limited
Speaker 3: amount of snaps, that place is going to go insane.
Speaker 1: I have him on my list to see if he
Speaker 1: could do it again, right right right right after, you know,
Speaker 1: do it again and just just play football, Just play football,
Speaker 1: react that way. I also want to see Roma Dounza
Speaker 1: get a couple catches. You know, his first experience, you
Speaker 1: know it's a physical NFL, and so you get banged
Speaker 1: around a little bit on that first attempt. They threw
Speaker 1: to him in the end zone as well, But I
Speaker 1: want to see Roma Dounza and see what he's best
Speaker 1: at because he can pull away from separation.
Speaker 2: He's an excellent round runner already. And then probably.
Speaker 3: Imagine if Daniel Hardy has another complimentary getting along with
Speaker 3: Austin Booker and so whatever their stat line was coming
Speaker 3: out of Buffalo, if they go and they replicate that
Speaker 3: at home, it's gonna be another positive move in Daniel
Speaker 3: Hardy direction.
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna go special teams and have some
Speaker 2: semblance of sorting things out in the return game, kick
Speaker 2: and punt returner, where are they headed, and try and
Speaker 2: get as many reps and figure that out as possible.
Speaker 3: You're not going to see that creativity until we wantular.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about the return, about who's returning,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be your punt return, who's gonna be your
Speaker 1: kickoff tandem?
Speaker 3: You know that's what Tory Taylor to bang one inside
Speaker 3: Soldier Field.
Speaker 2: Yes, I went the crowd.
Speaker 1: He'll have a nickname before anybody else on this roster, right,
Speaker 1: you know, what so Tory Taylor.
Speaker 3: In order for him to really bang one, he's got
Speaker 3: to be at his own twenty, his own fifteen, because
Speaker 3: if you put him anywhere else in the field, he
Speaker 3: and you let him bang it, he'll kick it into
Speaker 3: the end zone. So it's gonna be one of those
Speaker 3: sixty five yard five second hangars that is going to
Speaker 3: have an extended ooh by the crowd.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a crowd favorite. There's no question
Speaker 1: about it. All right, Tommy, don't be late on Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday, not a Sunday. Get there bright, nearly,
Speaker 1: get that coffee percolating. We'll be thrilled me back home
Speaker 1: at Soldier Field. We've already banked, bank rolled two trips
Speaker 1: and another one to wrap up the preseason next week
Speaker 1: from Thursday. Believe they're not against Kansas City. As soon
Speaker 1: as they arrived, they're almost gone. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the crazy part of preseason. It feels like you're in
Speaker 1: it for the long haul, but the games are quick
Speaker 1: boom boom boom, And then we got seventeen days to
Speaker 1: wait for the opener.
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to admit it.
Speaker 3: I also thought the Kansas City game was at seven
Speaker 3: o'clock on a Saturday.
Speaker 4: I didn't know it's a Thursday night. I don't look ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, Tom, Yeah right, that's your You were
Speaker 1: made that way, as you're made that way as a
Speaker 1: football player.
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it all right.
Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap us up. Special thanks to our guest
Speaker 1: left tackle Braxton Jones. Fourth time, I'm Jeff. Thanks for
Speaker 1: listening to podcast number eighty five. That number represents so
Speaker 1: much significance in the Bear's history.
Speaker 2: It sure is. Thanks for listening to everybody.
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