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Speaker 2: Look at this now, Tim Jesus, Oh do you want

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Speaker 2: abouts will be too? It's time to beg Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: the familiar sounds of the French Canadian cackle. On this

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, June nine, twenty twenty five, Welcome into Morning Combat,

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Speaker 2: the best combat's best damn combat sports show they ever

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Speaker 2: put together. That's quite the sales pitch, the one that

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Speaker 2: won't go away.

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Speaker 1: Luke, that's right, like a skin tag.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas's co host, Brian Campbell from the CT

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Speaker 2: dropped the e and that's Washington, DC's finest and we

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Speaker 2: probably got a hell of a show for you today, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's no shortage of big topics.

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Speaker 1: I think he's UFC three sixteen is in the books.

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Speaker 1: And it was pretty good, pretty good, I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, except for those fans falling out when Rob came by.

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Speaker 1: You know, that was the kind of a that reminded

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Speaker 1: me of is that's what happened when Jalen Hurts was

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Speaker 1: at Northwest Ating which is formerly FedEx Field, and FedExField

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Speaker 1: is such well they're trying to fix it, but it's

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Speaker 1: such a fucking dump that they fans fell over and

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Speaker 1: nearly crushed them.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, that reminds if what's happening at

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Speaker 1: your event reminds me of FedEx Field, that's not a

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Speaker 1: good thing.

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Speaker 2: And would you say that Keishan Davis's stock in the

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Speaker 2: last forty eight hours or to seventy two even has

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Speaker 2: taken a similar free fall? Dude, we'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: worst worse than this Tesla stock.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Nice?

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Speaker 1: I honestly can't tell if some alien invaded his body

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Speaker 3: Guy.

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Speaker 1: I know that's a big mark of shame for me.

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Speaker 2: But okay, you say that, But I bet you.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I bet you if you if

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Speaker 2: you just grab license to Ellen Paul's boutique and give

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Speaker 2: it like a week, you'll come back.

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Speaker 1: And recognize these are classic albums. I cannot say otherwise.

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Speaker 1: They just check your.

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Speaker 2: Head when they start playing the instruments.

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Speaker 1: Come on, they got some bangers they got, but you

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Speaker 1: know what's the one like Intergalactic Planetary? Okay, they try

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a fantastic third member of

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Speaker 2: our team, Bong enthusiast, who was there in person Newark,

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Speaker 2: New Jersey for UFC three sixteen in the media room. Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's a long island look of the main card minute,

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Speaker 2: l I L you visited Newark, Penn? Did you not?

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Speaker 5: I did, And I gotta say, Luke, I have a

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Speaker 1: I mean, eat my ass. I just just eat all

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Speaker 2: He actually came in and was like it was like

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Speaker 2: He's like, card, wasn't that bad?

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Speaker 5: It's the same fucking No.

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Speaker 4: It's not.

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Speaker 1: No, it's no, it's not it's absolutely not. That is true.

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Speaker 2: I think Penn Station in New York is like two

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Speaker 2: It's a wild it's a wild place there.

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Speaker 1: Did you get the dunkin donuts that tastes like the

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Speaker 5: Why would I buy food product?

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Speaker 1: Why would you eat things? Why would you do that?

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, walking through it, it wasn't so.

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Speaker 2: I mean Father's Day is coming, guys, you know, get

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Speaker 2: Do we have we become dead? Like I loved Wilco

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Speaker 2: And you know, I felt I felt a little sterile?

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Speaker 2: Are we that that I'm cooler than I? Look? Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm cooler.

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Speaker 1: You don't look cool?

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Speaker 1: Okay, needed do I? I don't care?

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Speaker 1: We definitely, we definitely are.

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Speaker 2: Can we entertain the gay dad? Okay? Would would you

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Speaker 2: be willing not not shave your beard? That's I don't

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Speaker 2: want to take away your power, but dye your beard

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Speaker 2: losing a bet? And I don't mean diet purple. I

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't but I hope you'll bet that beard

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Speaker 1: I mean, my hair is turning white. Like it's a contest.

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Speaker 2: Do we have anything else to say?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing anything fun for Father's Day?

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Speaker 1: What was the last time you ship blood?

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Speaker 2: I hope you like? Will you perish too early?

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Speaker 2: So that's fantastic. All right, let's transition here, all right,

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Speaker 1: But let me get this point out in terms about Morob,

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Speaker 2: It was like O'Malley had no idea those shots were

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Speaker 2: Even the times that he's controlling O'Malley on the clinch

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Speaker 2: and this elevation of that boxing, for as long as

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Speaker 2: let's just say Morob had lost this fight. Let's say

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Speaker 2: O'Malley landed the better strikes over five rounds and got

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Speaker 2: have believed to go on that run. No, he just

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Speaker 2: than the time when he fought him when he was hurt.

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Speaker 2: So now you're like, he has thirteen fight win streak

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Speaker 2: know Mahachev may get their first. John Jones also has

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Speaker 2: thirteen right now. Who knows if Fi'll ever fight Againana

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Speaker 2: doesn't sure to know, h but thirteen in a row. Dude, then,

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Speaker 2: like he might be telling me, I know, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're not usually up on the Pom for Palm thing,

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Speaker 2: but it feels like everybody either has Islam or Ilia

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Speaker 2: in there. I don't think so ISLAMI I don't think anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll look it up.

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Speaker 2: Is morob at worst number three right now? Is he

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Speaker 2: two title defenses, the names in succession? You know, Aldo

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Speaker 1: Right now? He has a case for number two? Now?

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Speaker 1: They still according to the men's Pound for pound rankings

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Speaker 2: Hey, I can update that.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, just unemployed people no longer in the industry.

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Speaker 1: Jones is still sitting at two for what it's worth

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Speaker 1: I think it's silly, but whatever. So Tuporia and Morob

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Speaker 1: first thing. I'd say number one. He absolutely I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Well, like we would a couple of fights ago, we

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Speaker 2: is he closing out any any parts of him that

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the funny part about it. I

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Speaker 1: a time when the limits of his refinement were going

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Speaker 1: His takedown defense, as we talked about in that fight,

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Speaker 1: simply couldn't keep pace he overwhelmed him. That was kind

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Speaker 1: of like a new leveling up. And here against Sean O'Malley, Yes,

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Speaker 1: he beat him the first time, but he's still leveled

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Speaker 1: This is an extraordinary development to be happening for a

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Speaker 1: five and you know, Dominic Cruz still has overall more

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Speaker 1: a more overwhelming force at thirty five than Morob Dewallashweeley.

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Speaker 1: He's the most overwhelming force I've ever seen in this

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Speaker 1: weight class. You can decide that Cruz's championship run is

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Speaker 1: still more decorated, fine, but no one is as much

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Speaker 2: He just either overwhelms you or it goes through you

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Speaker 2: it's overwhelming. Yet he's not. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what his ceiling is marketing. Marketing wise, he's already thirty four.

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Speaker 2: He maybe he just looks like another boring foreigner that

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Speaker 2: that shows the love people that people have for him

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Speaker 2: and the joy that he brings. He's crazy, he's liable

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Speaker 2: puts out a good message. Let's look at this guy.

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Speaker 2: This is good life. I'm not gonna do he goes

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Speaker 2: so easy.

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Speaker 1: Guy, Hey god, how happy hungry anymore?

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Speaker 2: That's gone, Like obviously when he's doing the inspiration, anyone

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Speaker 2: will ever have the Stamley you ever be as crazy

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Speaker 1: Superhero is a strong word, but he has certainly ingratiated

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Speaker 1: when an answer to the first question, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: what else you could possibly ask that he hasn't tried

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you what do you call this?

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Speaker 2: I was a really humble too. And here's Morob thanking

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Speaker 10: That's proves again not always best fighter wins. You know,

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Speaker 10: Omley got really lucky against Aldo and but hey, but

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Speaker 10: I'm grateful for my friend Alja, my steling and uh

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Speaker 10: I tell him today I have to split my bonus

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Speaker 10: and give him half.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: That would have been my wedding gift, you know.

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Speaker 11: But but I will never pay you your gifts there.

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Speaker 10: You know you are the man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, bro Luke. That is one side of it,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get to uh the idea of him and

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Speaker 2: Corey in a second. But to close off on o'

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Speaker 2: mal are you willing to side with the extreme haters

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Speaker 2: They're not saying O'Malley sucks. They're just saying the idea

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Speaker 2: breakthrough star champion was a romanticized claim that was never

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Speaker 2: did the Cheetoh rematch because there was a storyline there.

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Speaker 2: But did he beat the guy? I mean, it's hard

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Speaker 2: that's a breakthrough win that showed what he's all about.

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Speaker 2: He also forced al Joe into overextending. But part of

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Speaker 2: all that or is it just you're not gonna beat

436
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 2: that guy twelve You know you had two chances, You're

437
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: still not gonna beat that guy at the end.

438
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Speaker 1: So this is an interesting one. And I've seen a

439
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: bunch of YouTubers and MMA kind of go after O'Malley

440
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: and say that they got fed a bunch of propaganda

441
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: about him, and it's like, I don't understand what that

442
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 1: complaint is. I mean, I'm not saying it's wrong, but

443
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 1: it's like, do you think Sean O'Malley is the first

444
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: fighter the UFC has given favoritism to, or that he

445
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 1: will be the last like this is or by the way,

446
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 1: are there fighters in top rank or PBC or any

447
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 1: or PFL whoever. There are favorites within any promotion. There

448
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: are favorites to any promoter, like the fact that one

449
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 1: guy got it and it didn't ultimately work. Guys, I

450
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: have news for you. They gave Connor McGregor very favorable

451
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: matchups at very favorable times on purpose to boost him.

452
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: Now he made the most of it in the end,

453
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: and so these are big differences. But like they've had

454
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of failures on that end too, like pushing

455
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 1: Stage northcut and pushing some other ones along the way,

456
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 1: Page Vansan whoever, there's just a bunch that bottomed out.

457
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't always work. It's an inexact science. So

458
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: then if you say, well I didn't like the propaganda,

459
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: I didn't like the way that this was pushed, that's fine,

460
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,199
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to I'm not arguing that that's

461
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: something you have to accept. It's a weird charge to

462
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: be like, well, they they gave this guy favoritism. Every

463
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 1: fucking promoter does.

464
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: Every potential star will get the data white privilege.

465
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. What I can

466
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Speaker 1: say is I do know for a fact that when

467
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Speaker 1: he was on the Contender series that the people who

468
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: have access to the numbers told me that what he

469
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: was doing was, you know, two or three x what

470
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: anyone else in that series had done. And so the

471
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: UFC looked at that and was like, Okay, there's something here.

472
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: But whether it was the suspension with USADA and the

473
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: time off or the way the first Tchudo Veri fight ended,

474
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: somewhere along the lines, the fans kind of let go

475
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: of that early enthusiasm.

476
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Speaker 2: And don't a lot of people think Yon one. Isn't

477
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: that a debated score?

478
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Speaker 1: I thought Yan won that fight too, But I mean

479
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: that's the judges. That's not UFC like they can't do

480
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: anything right.

481
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Speaker 2: People's think.

482
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Speaker 1: But I just want to be clear, like people like, oh,

483
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: he got favorable treatment and they pushed him and they

484
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: didn't push anybody else and they didn't push Morob. That's

485
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: fight prora.

486
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Speaker 2: Difference between that and fraud check, right, I mean, this

487
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: is not a fraud check situation. He beat Yan knocked out,

488
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: he became a champion.

489
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Speaker 1: You can say, maybe, you know, maybe he's not the

490
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: best guy bantamweight, he's not the best guy of bansomweight,

491
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: but he's a very good fighter.

492
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: He had no I feel for him because this was

493
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 2: a no stone unturned moment. I mean, you know, the

494
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: everything from internet used to dyeing the hair to okay,

495
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: maybe he should have kept Jay in the pen, right,

496
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: I mean after all we I mean this kind of

497
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: proves that.

498
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: But talked about this like I thought, O'Malley looked a

499
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: little bit better in.

500
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Speaker 2: Spots, That's what I'm saying. I feel bad for him

501
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: because he went back in got fully healthy, fully committed himself.

502
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: You can really hear the way he talks about his

503
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: wife that there was a It seemingly like he's in

504
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: a much better home spot with with with being a

505
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 2: family man. And it still wasn't enough because Morob was

506
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: great and it's a bad style matchup for him ultimately.

507
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's that he's was never good

508
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: enough or he's regressed whatever. We should have the debate

509
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: in a second about one or one thirty five. But

510
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 2: other people were taking a chance to dunk on him,

511
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: including Pyota Yan. Let's check out that no mercy tweet.

512
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: This is what happens when you're handed things you didn't earn.

513
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: Back in line, buddy uh At Suga Sean, we wouldn't

514
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: hate that rematch, Luke, I want from you whether Sean

515
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: O'Malley should move up to featherweight, or whether or if not,

516
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: what is the correct bounce back opponents so that in

517
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: your mind you're thinking one to two really good wins

518
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: from getting another title SHOWT Right, you still have a

519
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: big name here, but who should he have to earn

520
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: it against if he doesn't move up?

521
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: Well, this is a tough thing to answer. I don't

522
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: know how soon they're going to get Morob back out there.

523
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean the listen, you can do the Rich Franklin thing,

524
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: which means, after real after you realize that there's a

525
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: guy at eighty five that's going to prevent you from

526
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: ever holding the title, you just kind of bounce around

527
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: between eighty five and two. Roway did the same thing, right,

528
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: but Max Holloway had very uneven results from it until

529
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: he really committed to.

530
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Speaker 2: All Right, Sorry, Luke, are you in an email exchange? No?

531
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: No, No, that's my wife, sorry tooke. He got sick

532
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: again today. So it's an issue. Yeah, it's an issue,

533
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: all right, THET I apologize, I apologize to you, apologist

534
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: to the viewers. But getting back on a BC, it's

535
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: hard to say because the Max Holloway thing was a

536
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: little bit uneven. So he went to fifty five the

537
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: first time against Parier, but remember he survived that fight,

538
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: but even the people around him were like, he didn't

539
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: really go to fifty five. He just kind of cut

540
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: less weight. And then when he went against Gaegee, he

541
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: really went to fifty five, and then he cut back down,

542
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: which I was not sure was the right idea, And

543
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: obviously against Poria, now he's just going to go back

544
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: fifty five permanently. In other words, there's a bit of

545
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: a body change you have to make that doesn't make

546
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: that going back and forth so easy. What I can say, though,

547
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: is listen to some of these ideas Sean O'Malley versus Pitbull,

548
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: Shan O'Malley versus Yahia Rodriguez, Sean O'Malley, Diego Lopez, Sean O'Malley,

549
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: Brian Ortega.

550
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Like any other way you're talking fresh, new matchup because

551
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: they all found.

552
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: So I think Figgy is in real trouble. He got

553
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: his knees shredded. I'm imagining that that's sir. Injury is

554
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna hold him back at least the rest of the year.

555
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: I can like song get Dong Song Get Dong at

556
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: thirty five is something he could do. That's another one.

557
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: By the way, I guess Jan's got the McGee fight,

558
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: but a Yan rematch still holds some intrigue. John's got options,

559
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: He's got options. But the problem with going back and

560
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: forth is I just I don't know if his body

561
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 1: is going to adjust. I kind of wonder maybe go

562
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: to forty five for a little while, while thirty five.

563
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even joking when I say this. He might

564
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: just have to wait until Morob gets old. Morob's thirty four,

565
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: Sean I think is what thirty twenty nine? Thirty? Who's

566
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: twenty nine and in the first fight, so I think

567
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: he's thirty. Now you wait a couple of years, Morob's

568
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna be what thirty six, thirty seven?

569
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Speaker 2: Wait, you're gonna have to rematchan Yan.

570
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to I don't mean like hold out

571
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: and not fight. I'm saying you have to realize no

572
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: one is gonna upset.

573
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: These stay in contention.

574
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, but well, just just understanding. No one's gonna really

575
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: upset the Morob apple cart until old age gets him,

576
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: and then there's gonna be a turnover and you kind

577
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: of just have to bide your time until then.

578
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: Wow, you were very matter of fact with that. In granted,

579
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: Marob's giving you a lot of reason to a thirteen

580
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: fight on you know, winning street, right, I don't think so. Well,

581
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: this is what I want to ask now, because it's

582
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: turning the page now to Morob versus Corey Sandhagan. And

583
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: I guess the way I wanted to pitch it was

584
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: in some ways, is Cory Sanhagen like the toughest style

585
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: matchup within the elites in this division for Morob.

586
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: So this is to me the million dollar question. On

587
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: the feet, obviously he's a lot better than Morob, okay,

588
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: no question in my mind.

589
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: Long leaps in all kinds of awkwardness.

590
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can obviously use knees in a way

591
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: that he can combine disparate striking elements, no question. Also,

592
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: really no question in my mind, if Morob wants to

593
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: take down he can get it. The issue for me

594
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: in both the first fight and in particular the second

595
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: fight is that Sean did not have a great answer

596
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: for it. When Shawn is pressed up against the fence,

597
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: you could see this time he was able to build

598
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: height relatively quickly, and that made a big difference to

599
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 1: winning and losing, but into winning those moments. But when

600
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: he got taken down into open space and now he's

601
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: flat on his back and he's got full guard, that

602
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: was a problem in the first fight, and that was

603
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: a problem in the second fight. The question you have

604
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: to ask yourself is does Corey have a solution to

605
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: that problem? Against the fence. Let's say he's as good

606
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: or roughly as good as as O'Malley a distance. Let's

607
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: say he's as good or better than O'Malley. But if

608
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: he gets taken down in the middle, which Morob can

609
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: very easily do, but what is he going to do there?

610
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't have an answer there, he's going

611
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: to lose there.

612
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: Right, And you're right, You're not wrong. I'm saying he's

613
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: a better clinch fighter than O'Malley is more tools and more,

614
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: a little bit longer, more dangerous.

615
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: Morob really gonna hang out with him in the cl.

616
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: Saying I'm trying to show you, like the areas where

617
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: and then also, wouldn't you say his submission threats on

618
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: the ground would neutralize some of Morob's attack when he's

619
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: in top position.

620
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I've said this before, and I think

621
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: it's something to explore, although there's context in which it

622
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: has to be appropriately applied. But I believe that the

623
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: leg locking game of Corey Sandagan could be quite valuable. Now. Now,

624
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: the problem is that's going to be very difficult to

625
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: get into a good place to do them when Morob

626
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: goes chest to chest, two knees on the ground, although

627
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: in this fight he kind of opened up a little

628
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: bit more. He had good tight control, but at the

629
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: same time he was willing to create some space to

630
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: do that.

631
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: But he knows there's no pushback from Amalley. As for

632
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: a submission threat.

633
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Th Omalley went for a couple of oma platas in

634
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: the first fight, but they got separated because he held

635
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Morob's glove on the arm that was trapped. He didn't

636
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: even bother going for them this time. You know, there's

637
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: a question about strategy there. I'm just saying, if you go, dude,

638
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: submitting someone who's very good off of your back in

639
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: either high level jiu jitsu or high level mma without

640
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: hurting them first is very very difficult to do. It's

641
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: very difficult to do. To me, you have to kind

642
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: of reset the submission sequence. You have to reset the

643
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: submission terms and going backside fifty to fifty, which he

644
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: did against Figuredo it didn't work, But then coming up

645
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: and then taking top position. If you're able to enter

646
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: into the position to start that exchange, I think it

647
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: could be hugely valuable. Can he do that against a

648
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: mirob who probably will be expecting it.

649
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: I love this matchup. I love this just next because

650
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Speaker 2: you know, if Morob does Morob thinks to this guy

651
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Speaker 2: as well, then we're going to continue to fit him

652
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Speaker 2: for that crown. I mean, we're getting closer to to

653
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Speaker 2: to dealing with the idea of what where he's on

654
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Speaker 2: his way to be, which is the greatest handom weight,

655
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Speaker 2: if not already there, not that I feel like we

656
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Speaker 2: need to debate that or he needs to be that

657
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: right now. Also, shout out to TJ Dilla show in

658
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Speaker 2: this argument. Shout out to him.

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Speaker 1: He's got but he's one of those guys like it's

660
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Speaker 1: kind of funny, right, had all the skills in the world,

661
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Speaker 1: but then it was taking ep O. Yeah, you know

662
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Speaker 1: what I mean this one I was talking about the

663
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Speaker 1: grinders versus the skillful ones. He was trying. He was

664
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Speaker 1: trying to be the best of both of them.

665
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Speaker 2: Was Connor right that TJ was really a snake in

666
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Speaker 2: the grass in the end.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Connor should be the one.

668
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Speaker 2: Let's get video here of Morob and Corey cheesing it

669
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Speaker 2: up backstage. But I'm fired up for this. Let's go.

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Speaker 12: Each other.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I respect you and then get to Hey,

672
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Speaker 10: I'm gonna just take a littleification.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going on a run though right now, Right now,

674
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Speaker 2: I mean, Rob's funny too.

675
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Speaker 1: This is like this is There's not gonna be much

676
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Speaker 1: heat in that one. So I think it's going to

677
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Speaker 1: be a comine but as a fight that is as

678
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Speaker 1: interesting as any title defense he's.

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Speaker 2: Had long Islandluke, I've been waiting to tee you up

680
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Speaker 2: on this, giving your expertise. How long do you think

681
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Speaker 2: it took O'Malley to jay the peen after the fight ended?

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Speaker 6: My expertise, I'm going to say, in the hotel room

683
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Speaker 6: after right like right after that's quick?

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Speaker 1: Are you asking him? How quickly did look?

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Speaker 2: I didn't put this, Sean Jack, I didn't add this

686
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: narrative to the news like, I didn't make this a topic,

687
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Speaker 2: but you know, Sean, I.

688
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Speaker 1: Mean you're making it one now.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know Long Island those things, you know things?

690
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Speaker 1: All right? How soon did you jay the peen after

691
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Speaker 1: getting this is too far? That's took me longer to

692
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Speaker 1: get home. You know, I had to make a track,

693
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Speaker 1: you know, was probably quick. How much meth did you

694
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Speaker 1: smoke on the way back on the Long islan On railroad.

695
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Speaker 1: I actually took an uber home, but all right, how

696
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Speaker 1: much meth did you smoke? A us?

697
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Speaker 2: How much was that uber ride? Like one hundred dollars?

698
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Speaker 1: It was an expensive uber. It was over one hundred dollars.

699
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Speaker 2: What the dude get on the free?

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Speaker 6: Why would you take the L double R Because the

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Speaker 6: trains there was a two something train or a four

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Speaker 6: am train, So I would have just been stranded in drink.

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Speaker 2: Don't have any Virginia something.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would have had to drive home from

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Speaker 5: the train station of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a bunch of factors, guysers jupor on

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Speaker 1: that ass all right.

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Speaker 1: Not bad, right, yeah, we we love Abron here. He

722
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Speaker 1: did a great job this week as well.

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Speaker 2: Down on the ground there and huge fan of that

724
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Speaker 2: gentleman right there. All right, everyone brings a different flavor

725
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Speaker 2: when they join us, you know, I mean, add something

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Speaker 2: to the dynamic.

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Speaker 1: We got what what flavor should we bring in or

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Speaker 1: what the next one?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's great.

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Speaker 1: What do you think Long Island, Luke.

731
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, He's a big jet guy.

732
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm a big everyone guy.

733
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Speaker 4: I love.

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Speaker 2: Just combined his chuck, took his time.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you've never had a woman in the studio.

736
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Speaker 9: There's a reason why, because you're to brave pervert because

737
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Speaker 9: of your you know, because you're playing pocket you're as

738
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Speaker 9: bleeding all right, Cenco for the next one, oh Senko

739
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 9: would be she'd be down.

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Speaker 1: The problem is she ends well, you know what she

741
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Speaker 1: does the way and show on Friday. It's a it's

742
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Speaker 1: a possibility. It's a possibility.

743
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Speaker 2: I doubt we'll see her, but that'd be welcome. I'd

744
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: be welcome.

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00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: It'd be very welcome.

746
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, topic number two times staying on UFC

747
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: three sixteen, but staying in the bantamweight division this time chicks,

748
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: and what a breakthrough for this inspirational woman, Kayla Harrison

749
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: climbing the mountain in the UFC to add the title

750
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Speaker 2: to her glowing collection of two gold medals, two PFL

751
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Speaker 2: World championships, a couple million dollar checks. This time was

752
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 2: full domination, like the odds told you, against two time

753
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Speaker 2: champion Juliana Pana, setting up the idea of Amanda Newness

754
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: coming out of retirement and shout out to UFC and

755
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan in particular for making sure she came in

756
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: the cage. We got a face off. We we actually

757
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Speaker 2: have something to talk about Bonnie raid about the women.

758
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: So Luke, considering everything that Kayla has accomplished, persevered through

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Speaker 2: her incredible backstory. What sounded like an impossible cut Thursday

760
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Speaker 2: night in terms of the weight to get to one

761
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: thirty five. This is a feeld good story. We need

762
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Speaker 2: more of these?

763
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: Is this though?

764
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: Enough positive buzz? Kayla Harrison's breakthrough win, Amanda Newness, the

765
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: legend coming out of retirement to give a shot, a

766
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Speaker 2: real shot in the arm to women's MMA in general.

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00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: Now that we have like a legit, badass historic super

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Speaker 2: fight to get fired up for.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say cautiously optimistic, yes, yes I do. I

770
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: think people. You know, it wasn't like there was an

771
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: epic fight to really sell some kind of a next

772
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: fight or as good and as dominant as Kayla looked

773
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: to be seen, it almost felt too easy to me.

774
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: So the problem was you didn't get this like incredible

775
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: star making performance. It wasn't like McGregor against fort Now

776
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: he was supposed to fight. Although previously, but then he

777
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: got injured, so he ended up fighting Chad Mendez. We

778
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Speaker 1: had a persevere but the Chad Mendes fight still launched

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Speaker 1: him into another level, even beyond that, into stardom. You

780
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Speaker 1: didn't get quite something like that. Kayla was simply too

781
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: good however, however, or her real fight was Thursday night,

782
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: and I respect which I completely believe. I had people

783
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Speaker 1: challenging me like the cuts normal. I'm like, d there's

784
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: nothing normal about to a day's just to lose weight.

785
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: That's not not skills, just to lose weight to a day's.

786
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Speaker 1: But okay, I think this is a tremendous shot in

787
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: the arm. It's not enough to fix broader problems, which

788
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: we've talked about. But when I've said this.

789
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: Before and you say broader because we're talking about women.

790
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: I know you do because this is your dad joke

791
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: that you go back to because you are a fucking

792
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Speaker 1: old problem.

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Speaker 2: My dad's more focused on Ditschiva. But keep going.

794
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: I think what I was gonna say is BC to me.

795
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: There were people who said they got big fight feels

796
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Speaker 1: watching the face off, and I'm trying to think, when

797
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: was the last time someone told you not that they

798
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: thought it was a good fight, not that they liked it,

799
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Speaker 1: not that they thought it was important. But on the

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00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: women's side, where you saw some kind of event and

801
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: you got quote big fight feels from it, I can't really.

802
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's been relatively let me tell you, I

803
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: can't remember.

804
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: My knee jerk would have been Cyborg versus Newness. But

805
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: the reality is that wasn't that big in terms of

806
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: like the crossover. Even Dana himself, I thought, gave a

807
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: good answer to that that when they asked him like,

808
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: could Kayla Amanda be you know, is it bigger than that?

809
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: And he was like, yeah, our sport is so much

810
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: more developed and evolved since then. And I think he's

811
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: right right, Like it's so that one didn't feel as

812
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: big as it actually represented, which was the same type

813
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: of thing, a true passing of the torch cross you know,

814
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: crossroads moment right there, even though that was probably a

815
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: better fight on paper. But still, Luke, this is I mean,

816
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: she's got kind of the female brock Lesner. I mean,

817
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: it's kind of this one of one incredible freak athlete

818
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: with this great story and incredible work out.

819
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Speaker 1: Well, they had a pre built fan base true.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not it's not on the level of attention

821
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: of that fight. But is Kayla Harrison what women's emma

822
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: needs right now, her story, her presence, her Yes?

823
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes?

824
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: Is this the perfect fight to be So that was

825
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: just sort of way for her to get to this point. Yes.

826
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: It is like if you have to ask a question,

827
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: like before even winning a UFC title, who's the most

828
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: decorated combat athlete to ever win a UFC title? Kayla

829
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Harrison has a claim to that. He she has a claim, well,

830
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: she has two gold medals. She has a claim to that.

831
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Speaker 1: So to me, it's like you can sell that if

832
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: they really want to. What I will say is this,

833
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: And I hope the UFC they're not gonna care what

834
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: I have to say, but I hope enough people say this.

835
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. I hope that they put

836
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: a little bit extra into this one. Yeah. I hope

837
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: that they treat it as big as we think it might.

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Speaker 2: Is that the main event of a pay per view?

839
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: Because that was a topic that Kayla dealt with in

840
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: the point.

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I think you absolutely could do I doing special level

842
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: of promotion for it. I think this one kind of listen.

843
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if this one is like the best case,

844
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: but I think it's the best case we're gonna get

845
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: for a women's fight that can produce an extra media effort.

846
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: Are you saying that similar to what and this is

847
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: where we credit Jake Paul and MVP and Nicky says promoters.

848
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: They're making this Friday Night, July twelve, New York, Madison

849
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: Square Garden, Netflix, Taylor Serrano three full card with women

850
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: like you know, big time names that they've acquired. They're

851
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: making it this spet. You know, no matter what it

852
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: does ratings wise, like this, they have every opportunity to

853
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: like be on a crazy spot, to do crazy numbers

854
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: and deliver a type of historic fight that like creates

855
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: new fans and just matters. Could you're saying you want

856
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: the UFC to do something similar to that with that

857
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: level of treatment and care and saying this really is

858
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: a potential passing of the torch.

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00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: I think so. And I think also, you know, it

860
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have to headline a pay per view, but if

861
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be comaine, it has to be comain to

862
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: something like John versus Tom i FW yeah, yeah, something

863
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: really really really big then it could do that. But

864
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like you don't get something this is.

865
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Speaker 1: You know, we're We're just not in the era of

866
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: Ronda Rousey. We're just not in the era of even

867
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: the Misha Tates and the Kats and Ghanas who were

868
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: playing similar kinds of roles at the time or a

869
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: little bit past that. But I just feel like this

870
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: is a breath of fresh air at a time when

871
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: we don't know when the next one of these is

872
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: going to come around. Might as well strike while the

873
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: iron is hot, put a little extra effort into it.

874
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: They certainly know how to do that. They've certainly proven

875
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: that they know how to do that. I would like

876
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: to see that this is a.

877
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: Baby face story. Let's show the video if we can,

878
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: of Kayla Harrison exiting the arena similar to the Morob

879
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: video moment in a lot of ways.

880
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 13: Amazing.

881
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 14: I can't believe it's already.

882
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look at her face. Thank you, thank you President,

883
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: thank you, God bless you.

884
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 13: That's it.

885
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: And then Luke, if we I don't know if you're

886
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: gonna get fired up for this, but she even put

887
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: the belt. You know, Dana wasn't in the cage. Famously

888
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: to put it around and gone to when he won

889
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: the championship, but but she put it on DJT right there.

890
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that big.

891
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: Moment for Kayla right there. And then if we can

892
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: show the face off pick that we did see in

893
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: the cage. We can't show any footage, but dude, I

894
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: got the feels. I got fired.

895
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about, man, Like this was

896
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: the last time you saw a woman's face off and

897
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: you were like, damn this one. I can't wait to

898
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: see this one.

899
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, I've been excited for rematches

900
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: like Rosiohanna is a good example, or maybe even Yo

901
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: wanna wayy we were expecting. But then the historic level,

902
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: you really have to go back to cyborg versus newness

903
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: to feel anything like this, and then you gotta go wait, I.

904
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: Mean you got to almost dude, you got the You

905
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: have arguably the greatest combat athlete who became a UFC

906
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: champion against the greatest women's fighter of all time.

907
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 2: And their ex teammates with the backstory, and I don't

908
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: think they're gonna play it like into a huated rivalry,

909
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: but you could tell that story. And I'm not trying

910
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: to say it's gonna be what Rowsey Versus Tate two was,

911
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: with them coaching the Ultimate Fighter, and people like really

912
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: into it. Oh God, I thought, I'm not asking for

913
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: like the Rowsy Revolution already. I'm just asking for something

914
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: in the women's game to be presented big, to be

915
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: treated with respect, and to deliver, to honor the best

916
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: of what we have here right now. And this is

917
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: the best of it. The only problem with this is

918
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: I want to see Kayla have to go five rounds,

919
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: and I thought maybe Peina, because she's so stubborn, has

920
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: a great chin, has great cardio, was going to provide that.

921
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't really know if she can do this at

922
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: this weight at five rounds. I don't know how much

923
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: longer she can do this at this weight. It seems

924
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: the way cut was way harder than the actual fight.

925
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: And that's not because Paina looked awful. It's just that

926
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Kayla's a game dominated her. Do you think at this

927
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: weight she could go twenty five minutes in a war

928
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: with somebody?

929
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Not many times. She could maybe do it once or twice.

930
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: So then so then the key question that a lot

931
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: of people are offering, and they offered, they asked it

932
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: to Dana too. Does this have to be a title

933
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: fight at one thirty five? Should this be a one

934
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: to forty five super fight? Should you do?

935
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: I think we get a better I truly believe you'd

936
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: get a better fight at forty five. Now, look, do

937
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: you get a better fight at thirty five or forty five?

938
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Kayla Amanda Nunez?

939
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 5: Probably at forty five.

940
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 6: But also you give Kayla the chance to become double champ.

941
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 6: I know that's kind of a weird division, but like

942
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 6: add that to the gold medal.

943
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: Oh, so you bring back that, I think one more time?

944
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 5: I think it makes a lot of sense.

945
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: Or do you open up women's heavyweight also forty five?

946
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: If you're the UFC and you and you asked Kayla,

947
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: how many more times after this fight are you going

948
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: to compete? And she says, either not at all, or

949
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: maybe like one more time? Put it at forty five?

950
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: Who gives a fuck? Put it a forty five.

951
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Here's Kayla talking about the Amanda fight.

952
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 15: Let's get fired up, writing you invited an Amanda into

953
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 15: the octagon and everything. Was that something that you were

954
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 15: hoping and like wanting to happen to actually come in there?

955
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: No I mean, it wasn't like a planned thing.

956
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 16: I just.

957
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 5: I mean, in my head, this is what I want.

958
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 16: And I saw her on the JumboTron and I was like,

959
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 16: let's make some what do the kids call it, you know,

960
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 16: or a magic or or a farm, I don't know

961
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 16: what the hell they call it. Let's make some promotional

962
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 16: magic right here. So I said, come on, let's go girl.

963
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it worked out great. And you, when

964
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 15: I spoke to Ali a couple of days ago, he said, like,

965
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 15: the perfect plan would be you guys first fight out

966
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 15: forty five and not thirty five. Any sense that that

967
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 15: could happen, or do you think it'll be for that belt.

968
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: In front of you?

969
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 16: I have no idea, but I'm open to I just

970
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 16: want to fight. I just want to fight. I want

971
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 16: to fight Amanda. She's the greatest of all time. I

972
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 16: want to be the greatest of all time. I've wanted

973
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 16: that for a long time now. It's not personal, there's

974
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 16: no bad blood. I don't care what weight we fight at.

975
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 16: You know, like I walk around at one hundred and

976
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 16: I'm not even gonna tell you guys what I walk

977
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 16: around at. Never mind.

978
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 15: I guess just lastly, for me if that when that

979
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 15: fight does happen, we don't know when it'll be, but

980
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 15: there's so much history. It's been talked about forever. She's

981
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 15: been gone for a while at a different gym, You've

982
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 15: been improving, Like, what do you think this fight looks like?

983
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 15: Do you think you go do her a similar way

984
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 15: to Juliana? Will be a way harder Fight's.

985
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 16: Listen, I'm gonna give Amanda as much time as she

986
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 16: needs to prepare. I want her to be the best her.

987
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 16: I'm gonna be the best me. We're gonna go in

988
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 16: there and make some absolute magic in the women's division.

989
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 16: We're gonna break some records and make some history, and

990
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 16: we're both gonna make up a lot of money doing it,

991
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 16: and we're gonna we're gonna bring women's MMA to a

992
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 16: whole new level.

993
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: How you might react when you saw her?

994
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: Did you surprise yourself at all?

995
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: Or no?

996
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: I kept going there? Good stuff from Kayla, But Luke,

997
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 2: in terms of the actual matchup, is it as simple

998
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: as striker versus wrestler contrasting styles or will it be

999
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: more of just a war of blood, sweat, and tears

1000
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: and guts for the thirty seven year old nunis making

1001
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: her return right into a big.

1002
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how it could be anything other than

1003
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: striker grappler. Do you think Kayla's gonna slug it out

1004
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: with the no?

1005
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: But what if Amanda is able to keep on her

1006
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: feet for a.

1007
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: While, Well, Kayla is in deep trouble.

1008
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: So it really is one person's strengths and get one

1009
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: person's strength.

1010
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw a submission in this case. We're

1011
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: saying that on Wednesday that the best part of Kayla's

1012
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: game is ground and pounded. Sometimes she's a little bit

1013
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: submission to verse. This time it was kind of like

1014
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: right there for her and she went for it. So

1015
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: let's just say now submission or ground and pound is

1016
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: her best chance of winning. But when we say best

1017
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: chance of winning, I'm not going to say it's the

1018
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: only one, but it's pretty close to the only one.

1019
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: I just you know, if she can't get that fight

1020
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: to the floor, it's curtains, dude.

1021
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: Do you think that it's possible, Like to go back

1022
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: to the new comment for a second, let's show the

1023
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: weight difference from Friday at nine am on the scale.

1024
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: I had people telling me I was overreacting I don't

1025
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: think I want.

1026
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: You weren't making one thirty five and then what eight

1027
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: hours later at the ceremonial way, and you see what

1028
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: coming back to life looks like.

1029
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: And she even said a postfight like that, she wanted

1030
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: to quit on Thursday night Cutting Weight.

1031
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna ask you. I think she's a

1032
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: special figure that might deserve doing a solid for the

1033
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: solid in this case, would be bringing back that forty

1034
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: five title, letting her fight for it. And let's say

1035
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: she wins it, whether or not you need a rematch

1036
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: in for the women's in may sake. I hope they

1037
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: fight three times, but then she never fights thirty five again.

1038
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: She already did it. She already proved it. She won

1039
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: three fights, She beat the champion, dominated her, tapped her out.

1040
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: If she beats does she have to beat Nunas to

1041
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: get that type of treatment?

1042
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: In your eyes?

1043
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: Does she have to beat Nunis in their first fight?

1044
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: That then uf to go, Okay, we're gonna keep the

1045
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: forty five belt. You're the forty five belt champion.

1046
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: Movie. That's a big quest. I'm not really sure how

1047
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: they would adjudicate that. I mean, I think if Kayla wins.

1048
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they might do a back to backfight with

1049
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: between the two of them, don't They have.

1050
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: A history of making divisions four people like Cyborg forty five?

1051
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, well they tried to make Cyborg go

1052
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: down to forty and that was, you know, a bit

1053
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: of a failed endeavor, but or not a lasting one

1054
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum. It's hard to say. It's hard

1055
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: to say what they're gonna do. My feeling is they

1056
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: probably won't do any of this. My feelings are probably

1057
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: just gonna make her go to thirty five and then

1058
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: just say, you know, screw it. We got something to

1059
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: believe in, but we got something great to believe in.

1060
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: And Kayla is a real threat to anybody at thirty five.

1061
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: I think you would agree. And a man in Noon

1062
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: as her game speaks for itself.

1063
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Early offshore odds Kayla about a two to one favorite

1064
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: amandol is really yeah, I have that plus one seven five.

1065
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: Those those that line's gonna move right.

1066
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 6: So I just googled it to try and see they

1067
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 6: have plus one forty five Noon as minus one seventy Kla.

1068
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1069
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: That's a little better, that's all. And I still think

1070
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: I honestly the odds could flip by the time. Amanda

1071
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: has always been criminally underrated, like people didn't including us,

1072
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: didn't really catch on until she was like clearly the

1073
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: dominant figure because she had a couple of you know,

1074
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: fits and starts early in her career.

1075
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: I think that to Tate, we became believers quick, to

1076
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: be fair, because there were still questions. The fight before

1077
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: Tait was UFC one ninety six, the first Valentina fight,

1078
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: and because Valentina rallied in the third and was on

1079
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: top of her and like almost full mount and it

1080
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: was like, oh maybe newness. Isn't that the Tait was

1081
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: such an eye opener, just the brutality in which she

1082
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: won that, and then what was Rowsy the exact next one.

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00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: I feel like we were counting her out for Rowsey

1084
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 5: too though like everyone else.

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00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: High Oh, so the story is the UFC and TKO

1086
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: execs or w execs at the time, maybe not maybe

1087
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: not like the matchmakers or anything. But I think the

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00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: t K let me let me, let me correct that.

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00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: I think the matchmakers knew what was what, but and

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00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: the people inside UFC. But apparently my understanding is the

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00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: TKO execs expected Rowsy to just walk through her Oh wow,

1092
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: and were like absolutely flabbergasted that she got pasted the

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00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: way that she did. I have to I have that

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00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: on good authority.

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Speaker 5: I remember the promotion for that fight, and like literally

1096
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 5: the promos were only they didn't even like show him in.

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00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: And not just that they wouldn't if you guys remember this,

1098
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: they wouldn't show any rousy highlight of the home fight.

1099
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: It would show nothing about that where it's like, well,

1100
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the fact that she just

1101
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: got headkicked into oblivion in her last fight is relevant

1102
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: for this one.

1103
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: But I know for a fact when I worked at

1104
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: ESPN that Rowsey would call and complain to her point

1105
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: person there when the Sports Center intro would show the

1106
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: home highlight at all. This is the build to the

1107
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: Pania fight. No, So she had giving level of almost

1108
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: pushbackslash control on ESPN Sports Center and was like heavily monitoring.

1109
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: That powerful figures in the sport get a lot of

1110
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: stuff silenced in squad.

1111
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, all right, let's stay with UFC three sixteen.

1112
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about in the undercard recap,

1113
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk first about bantamweight PATCHI Mix. Look,

1114
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: Luke and I covered that entire run for PATCHI Mix

1115
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: in Bellator. He truly, truly was world classed and we

1116
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: believed to comparachute right into the top five in the

1117
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: UFC and make instant trouble for anyone. He was being

1118
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: hailed as sort of this gift that dropped in and

1119
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: could be one to two fights away from catching a

1120
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Speaker 2: world title opportunity. Instead, man, he caught nothing but straight

1121
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: strikes to the face, no head movement, beat up a

1122
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 2: little bit of a rally in the third. But Luke,

1123
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Speaker 2: this has to be our lead undercard story. From the

1124
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: just extreme lack of any awareness to move from the

1125
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: punches his flat floor foot flat foot plotting style this was,

1126
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: and then unwillingness to shoot until the fight was already

1127
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: in hand. This loss was as disastrous as I could

1128
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: have imagined for PATCHI. Yes, it fuels everyone go and

1129
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: see the UFC is at a different level than I

1130
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: just don't think that's the case for PATCHI. Is the

1131
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: Was this the worst possible version of him that could

1132
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: have showed up at the worst possible time or was

1133
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: there some level of fraud checking here? Because I know

1134
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: the PATCHI I watched he fought Sergio Pettis or a Gucci.

1135
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: He put these dudes to sleep, he knock these dudes out.

1136
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: Ralfia starts. That was not him and he's in his prime. So, Luke,

1137
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: what the hell was it on Saturday?

1138
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1139
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: That was this was bad very.

1140
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: I didn't even say the name Mario Bautista. He fight,

1141
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: win streak, congratulations, and.

1142
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: He say last week though, I said, he's like, people

1143
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: don't want to give it to him because they hate him,

1144
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: but he's actually a good fighter.

1145
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: He is Bautista, he's a good fight. I thought he

1146
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: was gonna get subbed in this. I thought it was

1147
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: going to be the more monstrous breaksow patches.

1148
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: I'll give them credit to. I was listening to Jack

1149
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: Slack about this, and Jack Slack noted that if you

1150
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: go back to the patchy mixed fight against Sergio Pettis,

1151
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: that what does mix do Thirty seconds into the fight,

1152
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: he cage controls him, makes contact and then swims the

1153
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: arm through and takes the back. So like thirty seconds in,

1154
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: he's backpacking this guy. Where the fuck was that? Where

1155
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: the head, where the fuck was that?

1156
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Or where the fuck was that? Even in round Why

1157
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: are you not spending the entire third round spamming to

1158
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: get his back on the ground, like just spam.

1159
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: Where where was any of that? I've said this before,

1160
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: we said it last week. The guy who ran through

1161
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: the bansonweight tournament in BELTI, by the way and feel like,

1162
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: oh who did he beat?

1163
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: Well?

1164
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: He beat UFC Veteran, killed Gihoragucci. He beat UFC veteran

1165
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: and finished him by the way with brilliant choke from

1166
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: the back of one of his legs BJ Penn style

1167
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: to hold him Upgio Petti put Mega Man to sleep

1168
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: and then knocked out Stats in the first fucking round. Yeah,

1169
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: the guy who ran through that tournament does have a

1170
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: claim to being the best bantam weight. But we said

1171
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: it when he had the rematch against Macga Madoff all

1172
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he just looked by the way. He

1173
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: was lucky to get that win too. But that was

1174
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: a very controversial win.

1175
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: But didn't you write that off as there's no stakes

1176
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: on the fight. It's an unnecessary rematch. It's Don Davis

1177
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: just throwing these bellets or people where they don't belong.

1178
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: I was willing to give him that pass, but this

1179
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: is your UFC debut, where you're coming in with people

1180
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: saying this could be the boogeyman in the division. There

1181
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: was the rumor that he had given it to Morob

1182
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: for years in sparring when they've done some work together.

1183
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of stories that him and Morob

1184
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: they have very competitive rounds, and at this time, Mixes

1185
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: definitely gets the better.

1186
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: Up did he freeze? Because I don't want to link this,

1187
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: but his fiancee, Tatiana Suarez, who you know I was

1188
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: picking to win the one fifteen title. I thought she

1189
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: was going to come in there and just kind of

1190
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 2: run through Wailey. She had an unfortunate and horrible fight.

1191
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: She she was a warrior, she went you know the

1192
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: distance there, but like that was almost like a big

1193
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: fumble in the big moment.

1194
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: Is this what this was for?

1195
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: Patching your eyes? The fact that like there wasn't even

1196
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: like a game plan. He's just deer in headlights taking

1197
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: clean strikes at one after.

1198
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: First of all, some of the notion that the guys

1199
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: who fight outside of the UFC aren't as good in

1200
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: aggregate is true. The UFC is going to have more

1201
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: better guys per division than other rivals. Typically but I'm sorry.

1202
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: I lived through the merger of the Strikeforce roster. I

1203
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: lived through the merger of even the Pride roster. I

1204
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: lived through the merger of the WEC roster, which was

1205
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: relevant at fifty five because UC had a fifty five division,

1206
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: And every single time it was merged, and we're talking

1207
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys and ladies coming over, the

1208
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: first thing you heard was these guys are not going

1209
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: to do well, and then in aggregate they ended up

1210
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: doing pretty well. In fact, Eddie Alvarez came over from

1211
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: Bellator had a varable first fight. I guess remember Don

1212
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: Seroni kicked his legs into oblivion and he had no answer.

1213
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: And you're like, well, that was a terrible debut.

1214
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. It was terrible. He fought, he fought well

1215
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: in defeat, but it wasn't a breakthrough.

1216
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: Well, he couldn't find any answer for Saroni's leg kicks,

1217
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: and it seemed like a lot of other guys at

1218
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: that time were able to do that. However, what happened

1219
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: to Eddie. He went on to win a goddamn title

1220
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: there and many other places too. You know, he proved

1221
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: his worth. So listen mixes thirty one. We'll see. But

1222
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: you know he's like, well, I took this fight on

1223
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: three weeks. Notice. It's like, dude, if you have been

1224
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: off for as long as he's been off, and been

1225
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: vocal about being off as long as he's been off,

1226
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: and you take a fight on three weeks, notice you

1227
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: you don't get to complain about that after the fact.

1228
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: I understand that it can be a limiting factor. But

1229
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: you've been at the ready, chomping at the bit for

1230
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: an opportunity, you accepted it. You had all this time

1231
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: to work on the difficulties, and he was able to

1232
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: make weight under those the which, by the way, mixes

1233
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: a large bansom weight. That's the other part too, Was.

1234
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: It a was it a tough weight cut in the

1235
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: end because of the late notice and that ultimately describes

1236
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: this or is it that mixed with the light Scott brighter?

1237
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: And he just no, he doesn't, dude. The fact that

1238
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: he fought just like he did in the Mega made

1239
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: off rematch tells me it's not octagon jitters. Max excuse me,

1240
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: is a very experienced competitor. But to me, it's like,

1241
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: why weren't you going to your a game? Why wasn't

1242
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: there any of that until kind of late into the.

1243
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: Third hides injury, Like what is going on? I mean,

1244
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: let's let's watch the video that he's getting ripped for.

1245
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: This was on UFC embedded during fight week years Like

1246
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: right here where.

1247
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 13: He rests, he won't be able to rest against me. Like,

1248
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 13: if that kid can push him up against the fence,

1249
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 13: I think I can. Three time world champion, this guy's

1250
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 13: journeyman fighter. I'll him up roll, I'm gonna pick him

1251
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 13: up like at his cool holes.

1252
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: I'll submit him, and I'll submit whoever's teaching him jiu jitsu.

1253
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: I'll submit the whole coup. But he didn't try a

1254
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: single takedown there until like the mid.

1255
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: I just I just don't get it. Listen if you

1256
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: if you listen, if you have a guy who you

1257
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: know is gonna move a lot on you and he's

1258
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: teeing off on you. Two minutes into the first round,

1259
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: it was clear that he wasn't getting out of the

1260
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: way of something. How is there not an adjustment to

1261
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: the thing that you actually are better, arguably better than

1262
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: the rest of the division at which is grappling and

1263
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: then ultimately back creating back exposure and then taking the back.

1264
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: Where was any of that? And what does three weeks

1265
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: have to do with it? If that your a game

1266
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: is the thing you're gonna be able to apply the

1267
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: most efficiently. Now, granted against a resisting opponent, it's going

1268
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: to be difficult, but I just to me, it's like, oh,

1269
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: I had three weeks to prepare, Well, you made weight

1270
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: and you you seem to have energy deep into the third.

1271
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: So he got beat up. I mean, I know he

1272
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 2: rallied a bit in the third, but like, it's tough.

1273
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 2: I believe in his ability. I was there for these fights.

1274
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: I watched them like that wasn't him in there. But

1275
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 2: it's a big setback. I think when when Patricio Pitpull

1276
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: kind of came up flat and empty, you're also like, well,

1277
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: dude's thirty seven, right. It's also like this is the

1278
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: aftermarket version of him. I want to see patch she

1279
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: bounce back because that just just it wasn't him and

1280
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 2: that was humbling. But on the flip side, Mario Bautista

1281
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: really executed a nice game plan focusing on the body

1282
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: going there often, and then that opened up the shots

1283
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: up top. The problem is there was just no head

1284
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: movement or anything, because Matt Mix was plotting and walking

1285
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: into him. But Bautista took advantage in Luke with eight

1286
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: straight wins. He believes he now deserves a big fight.

1287
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: Let's hear him.

1288
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: I guess what do you want next for your career?

1289
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 11: Because the last time we saw you before tonight was

1290
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 11: all the way back in October.

1291
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: You might have to take some time off to.

1292
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 11: Heel, but you know, people were saying Patri was gonna

1293
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 11: be on the shortlist for title shots, So I guess what.

1294
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 7: Do you want next? Definitely won a top five. You know,

1295
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 7: I think if Patchy won this fight, they would shoot

1296
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 7: him all the way into the top. So I think

1297
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 7: I took his spot in all that hype. So I

1298
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 7: definitely deserve a top five. I'm on an eight fight

1299
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 7: win streak, and there's no one else above me that

1300
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 7: has a streak like that except for the champion.

1301
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 11: Are you gonna ask for main events or anything like

1302
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 11: five round fights because we've seen you against former champions,

1303
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 11: but we.

1304
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: Haven't seen you in those five rounds yet. Yeah, I

1305
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: would love a five round fight. I think you know,

1306
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: I have a great team, and we you know, we've

1307
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 1: done five rounds.

1308
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 7: You know, we have Benson who's done multiple five round fights,

1309
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 7: so I would love to do that.

1310
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a great test for myself. I'm

1311
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: down with him getting a main event. Let's go, let's

1312
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: let's continue this story. I mean, he got a lot

1313
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: of negativity from the Auldo fight for fighting boring. I

1314
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: didn't think he wanted but he's not the judges. And

1315
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: then at the same time, we've seen him in action

1316
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: fights before, we've seen him be exciting. He did what

1317
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: he had to do in here. I just it was

1318
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: just a he had a corpse in front of him,

1319
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: and I can't explain it. I almost wish Paty would

1320
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: come out and say, this way, cut's killing me. I

1321
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: can't do anymore. I'd move up. I don't even know

1322
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: if that's the case, but like I almost lie in

1323
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: this instance to turn the narrative off of here. Here's

1324
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: as bad as it gets.

1325
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I well bad as guests will

1326
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: be like viciously Cato. Yeah yeah, But what I was

1327
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: gonna say was, how do you watch his performance and

1328
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: you can say this is I guess this is what's

1329
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: bothered me. I didn't quite cystallize it before how can

1330
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: you watch that performance and you might say, well, wycut

1331
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: could play apart, fine, short notice could play apart. But

1332
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: how do you check off the list as not relevant

1333
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: that it was a skill issue, like the way in

1334
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: which he was this ramrod straight and getting tagged over

1335
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: and over and over again. How do you look at

1336
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: that and say, oh, that's the weight cut, that's that's.

1337
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: The least because we don't see him do that. I'm

1338
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: not saying he's the world's best striker, but he's evolved

1339
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: his game and leveled it up to a certain level.

1340
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: It looks to me like you might have regressed worth

1341
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: considering worth considering he's gotten away from like what made

1342
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: him good.

1343
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: But but then again, we're still talking about Patchy here

1344
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: when the story is supposed to be Bautista. So as

1345
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: Bautista has he shown us through eight fights and it's

1346
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: a very impressive with wind streak, but then the big

1347
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: names come at the end and the although one has

1348
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: some questions around it, I kind of feel like this

1349
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: one is questions around it. Although he handled himself the

1350
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: way he should have, is he a future contender, meaning

1351
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: in striking distance of a world title? Is he of

1352
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: that ILK has he shown you bats. It's finally about

1353
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: Bautista here.

1354
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: I feel like he's in a similar spot to Morob

1355
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: where he's just gonna have to earn it slowly, you

1356
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, no, they're not gonna hand

1357
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: him anything easy. They're not gonna hand him anything fun.

1358
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: He's not under the John Fitch plan where you're kind

1359
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: of like, I.

1360
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Don't know if he's under the John Finch plan, but

1361
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: he's probably not in a too dissimilar a place, Like

1362
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: whatever good things are gonna happen, he's gonna have to

1363
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: take them straight up. He's gonna have to go in

1364
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: there and rob the bank. Like that's well.

1365
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: Now, look are you impressed by Bautista, because I know

1366
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people are gonna go like all we're

1367
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: talking about is Patchy when that guy did what he

1368
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: had to do in there.

1369
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I had a bet on PATCHI I was.

1370
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 6: I obviously thought PATCHI would win. I did not think

1371
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 6: for a second it was Octagon Jitters. I was like, yeah, exactly,

1372
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 6: Baltisa just looks good out there, and Pati looks dude.

1373
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: At some point, the fan base is gonna have to

1374
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: come to.

1375
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: T I'm gonna have to come to terms with I'm

1376
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: not giving him.

1377
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: Enough is good? Now? How he is good? Yes, the

1378
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: question is how good? And we don't know the answer

1379
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: to that because the Aldo fight didn't really tell us,

1380
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: nor did this fight really tell us. So there's still

1381
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: a question of like someone really pushing back on him

1382
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: at a hire from an elite standpoint, and what that

1383
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: yields we don't really know. But I have a lot

1384
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: of confidence that this guy is.

1385
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: Dude.

1386
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: He's a mover, he has a high work rate, he's

1387
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: got pretty good striking, he's got very good wrestling, he's

1388
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: got good anti grappling, so to speak, Like, I'm sorry,

1389
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have a really good game plan

1390
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: and a very refined skill set to beat a guy

1391
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 1: like that. You simply are.

1392
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: Interesting in the middleweight division, Luke, we also saw Joe

1393
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: poopy Pants Pie for you see that thing going on,

1394
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: who is.

1395
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: Definitely not sensitive, not at all, not a very sensitive Here's.

1396
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: Really got to ask you. He ends up getting the

1397
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: thirty twenty seven, which I don't get, and then two

1398
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: twenty nine twenty eight's over. Kelvin Gastolon, the veteran who

1399
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: got dropped twice in the first round. But did I

1400
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: thought work his way back in two and three to

1401
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: some degree?

1402
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

1403
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: He did.

1404
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: In fact, I can't believe there wasn't a scorecard in

1405
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: his favor or more of an argument. Well that was

1406
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: I thought that was a two to one Gaslin if

1407
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm an old school Gasoline fan, of course, But I

1408
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: also see his limitations more than anybody credit for him

1409
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: bouncing back. But because he was able to bounce back

1410
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: and rally in and Joe was really down to one

1411
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: punch at a time, they were right on the broadcast.

1412
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: He's just trying to line up and set up and

1413
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: cock that right hand. Pifer's show us in those final

1414
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: two rounds the limitations that might stop him from from

1415
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: getting to the top of this division.

1416
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how this fight was that distinguishable from

1417
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: the Hermanson loss.

1418
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: Really.

1419
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now you might say, well, look that's crazy. He

1420
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: dropped him, so he did like early on, dude, early on,

1421
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: Gasoline was getting worked.

1422
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when Pifer had the full tank.

1423
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: He's got nuclear power. He's a great.

1424
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: Att's angry, like he's in there, yeh yeah, and he's

1425
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: in and.

1426
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: He's definitely like intent on finishing you if the opportunity presents.

1427
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: But to the point you raised, round two was a

1428
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: much better round for gasolm. I thought he was better.

1429
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: The reason I can't give it to him is because

1430
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: I thought he was better defensively in round two, but

1431
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: just didn't get a lot of offense going. Even if

1432
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: I recognize Piper's offense went from like a ten to

1433
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: a five. Yes, and in round three I gave it

1434
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: to Kelvin Gasolon. Here's my question, that fight is two

1435
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: more rounds. Who wins that fight? Now we don't know

1436
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: the answer to that. I think Kelvin Well A, you

1437
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: could make a very interesting case for Kelvin and B.

1438
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: The Hermanson fight also started out with Piper very strong

1439
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: and then fading down the stretch over the course of

1440
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes. This one we didn't get to twenty five.

1441
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: It stopped at fifteen. But the same kind of tenor

1442
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: of the fight and the same kind of pattern emerged

1443
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: in this one as well. It's like, it's not a

1444
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: question whether Pifer is good or bad. He's obviously very good.

1445
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: He's a good athlete. He's got ridiculous power, he's got

1446
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: very accurate punching, and you know he's he's a threat

1447
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: to anybody, clearly. But did we see a demonstrable leveling up.

1448
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 12: No.

1449
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: From the Hermanson fight to this one, I think he

1450
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: cleaned up some mechanics. I did think he looked a

1451
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: little bit more balanced and what he wanted to throw.

1452
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: In general, I mean, he's built, he's a specimen. He's

1453
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: a great athlete. He's a great athlete. But I'm just

1454
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: trying to point out it didn't seem to me like

1455
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: that was a pivot point. It seemed to me like

1456
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: it was like iterative improvement.

1457
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: No, I think he still showed big limitations there and

1458
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: then the whole Like was it because he was taxed

1459
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: with his gas tank? Is that why he reverted to

1460
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: the well cock the right hand one, and it looked

1461
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 2: like altendo in there. Yeah, it's like, dude, work in

1462
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 2: that jab and put some things together.

1463
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: His jab is powerful too, Like, there's a lot to

1464
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: I think it was.

1465
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: A stamina dump in the last two rounds to some degree.

1466
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. If it's a stamina dump.

1467
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: You can't blame Mexican food this time, I don't think.

1468
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: But you could definitely blame the Newark food though you

1469
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: can definitely, I mean, you can get HIV food, alright,

1470
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say was, I don't know

1471
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: if it was a dump as much as like Kelvin

1472
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: kind of also slowly diffusing a bomb, and the clock

1473
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: beat him in that sense, right, Like by the time

1474
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: he had diffused it and figured out how to get

1475
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: around it, he didn't have enough for that to really work.

1476
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: So you're saying he should have to fight edmun Shabazi

1477
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: in next first one together.

1478
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, if I'm Pifer, you gotta like,

1479
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: first of all, you gotta win. You gotta win over

1480
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: a name, and you dropped him like there's plenty to

1481
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: add to the highlight. But at the same time, if

1482
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: you're him, you kind of have to realize this is like,

1483
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: oh oh, the concerns I had stemming from the Hermanson fight,

1484
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: they're no longer relevant. Can you make that claim confidently?

1485
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a believer right now. I'm

1486
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: a believer that he's that he can finish guys better

1487
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: than him in certain situations, you know, I mean, I

1488
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: think he'll get some stoppages. He's aggressive, he's he's putting

1489
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: together accurate punches, but we're gonna have to see more.

1490
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna have to see more. And this was

1491
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: a maybe a wake up call to that. Hey, Kevin Holland,

1492
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: maybe you should consider a full time career at one

1493
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: seventy Luke. He went in there against with Sente Luke

1494
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: and looked like a contender like he does at times

1495
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: when he fights at this weight class and doesn't take

1496
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: last minute, big money one to eighty five opportunities. Dude,

1497
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: the choke. The shoutout to coach Travis Luter, like, are

1498
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: you not entertained and impressed by this? I want this

1499
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: version again, not the not the cowboy two point zero, Like,

1500
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: don't follow Seroni's game plan to success. He's all of

1501
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: famersy beloved figure, But Kevin Holland could be a problem

1502
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: at walterweight if he stays at welterweight.

1503
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't Kevin Holland prepared and fighting up to his

1504
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: potential at one seventy is fun, it's exciting, it's interesting.

1505
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: Do I thin I think he's the best one seventier

1506
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: in the world. I don't know if there's evidence for that,

1507
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: but I think he can give the best one seventiers

1508
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: a real tough time. You will call JDM only beat

1509
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: him via a split decision. And I don't even know

1510
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: if Holland was still performing up to his abilities. B See,

1511
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: he's a dual threat. On the ground, he can submit you,

1512
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: and certainly on the feet. He's heavy handed, he doesn't

1513
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: mind contact. Rangey gives good interviews. It's like, dude, like

1514
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: Serony settled into that role. He did fight for a

1515
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: title against RDA, but he got whooped in the first

1516
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: round and it didn't go anywhere. So to me, he

1517
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: kind of settled into that role in part because you know,

1518
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: they needed a guy who they could put in that role.

1519
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: He can a fill in here, fill in here, fill

1520
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: in the ear. But at the same time, that was

1521
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: basically the maximum expression of what he could do in MMA.

1522
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't think following that is the maximum expression for

1523
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Holland. It seems to me like there might be

1524
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: a little bit higher of a ceiling.

1525
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: I want to see him get serious to make a title.

1526
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, Seronnie was a dual threat too,

1527
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: but he was a little bit more susceptible to, for example,

1528
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: shots to the body. He wasn't as durable.

1529
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: He also frozen big fights. He even admitted that, I

1530
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: mean after Connor debacle.

1531
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that wasn the only one he had

1532
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: issues in. But to your point, Kevin Holland does when

1533
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: he gets overwhelmed at eighty five, yes, but at seventy

1534
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: he's dude, He's as if he's a dog against someone.

1535
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: At seventy he's a live dog the whole time.

1536
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 2: Should he press his luck and try to take down

1537
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: either two Risers protest or Morales protest maybe has more

1538
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: questions at this moment, but should he be looking in

1539
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: either of those directions?

1540
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: I will do. I will say I don't think he's

1541
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: up for it, but a rematch against Buckley, who, by

1542
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: the way, he finished via strikes, so about.

1543
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 2: Eighty five tomorrow and next week he's got Kamara.

1544
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: Of this coming weekend in Atlanta, So I don't know,

1545
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: and he's kind of a little bit further along in

1546
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: the division. But this is my point, Holland finished that

1547
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: guy up a weight class, But that guy consolidated himself,

1548
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: had a plan, stuck to it and is marching through

1549
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: and now he's ahead of essentially Holland in the rankings.

1550
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: It didn't necessarily need to.

1551
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: Be that way. Yes, let's head down to uh Joshua

1552
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: Van of don't call it Burma Me and mar Dude.

1553
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: He's put out Charles Johnson, lost behind him, improved a

1554
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: four and oh sense then seven and one in the

1555
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: UFC overall, just twenty three years old. We're getting close

1556
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: to contendership here and we can use that at flyweight

1557
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: some fresh blood to mix in, Like is he getting

1558
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: closer or is this just I'm loving his hands. I'm

1559
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: loving a lot what he brings to the table.

1560
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: Josh Van's easily one of the best prospects in the sport,

1561
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: easily independent of weight class, independent of organization. As you

1562
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: indicated seven to one in UFC twenty three years old.

1563
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: He strikes in combination Bruno Sofa the opponent I forgot, yeah,

1564
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: Brune Silva, who, by the way, I thought, put up

1565
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: a spirited effort. Sure got abused, but still put up

1566
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: a spirited effort, had a couple of things going for

1567
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 1: him along the way that made I mean, I still

1568
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: think Van gets hit a lot, and you know, there's

1569
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: obviously a lot of polish to other parts of his

1570
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: game that have to come into play. To me, he's

1571
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: almost like a little bit too offensive, not that I

1572
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: want to see him heavily dial it down, but just

1573
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more precise, a little bit more patient

1574
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: and then go. But the skills that he's got BC

1575
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: are extraordinary. The upside is extraordinary. I mean, when was

1576
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: the last time we were this excited about a striking

1577
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: flyweight contender on their way up the rankings?

1578
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: Like, it's just not Mokayev.

1579
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: Well, Kayev had a lot of potential, but he had

1580
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: to like he wasn't putting a lot of offense. He

1581
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of control positions. Now, to Mokayev's defense,

1582
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: it looks like he's actually on the outside of the

1583
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: UFC finally getting the maturation that he needs. So by

1584
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: the time he comes back, he might be a whole

1585
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: different thing. I'm always I think they will. I think

1586
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 1: they will, And I've often said, what did I tell

1587
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: you they put these guys. These guys think that they

1588
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: want to be in UFC because the most amount of

1589
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: money is there, and they go too early and they're

1590
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: not ready for it. Josh Van is kind of circumventing

1591
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: that BC by his level of activity. He's fighting all

1592
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: the freaking time, and so I think that is keeping

1593
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: him right. That's what he needs at this age. If

1594
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: he can avoid taking beatings and he can avoid some

1595
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: of the damage that he's currently suffering, sky's the limit.

1596
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 1: He is special.

1597
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: Let's see. I needed this to start talking about this

1598
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: light heavyweight Russian hammer who fights once per year Ozama

1599
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: Mrza Khanoff. He went in there against Rivero and wasn't

1600
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: a killer, although the guy was on a two fight

1601
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: win streak. But look, he's now five and zero with

1602
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: four ko's in the UFC after he came off of

1603
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: Dana White Contender series. While performers remember that was against

1604
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: Sheffel where he just absolutely obliterated him. Dude, he wants

1605
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: a five round headliner right now. He's interesting. Can we

1606
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 2: get this guy active? Are you impressed? I know it's

1607
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: not the top level, but DoD he send a Lonzo

1608
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: Minifield to hell? Yeah?

1609
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: I need to see more, but from what I've seen,

1610
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: he seems like he could be fun, not afraid of contact,

1611
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: big power, first round finishing, first round finisher. Again, it's

1612
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,759
Speaker 1: hard to make a big conclusion about.

1613
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 2: This, but imagine him. He was talking to Johnny Walker,

1614
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: who was in the front row afterwards, and they were

1615
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: kind of like almost like, hey, we should fight. Would

1616
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 2: you be down for the book?

1617
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 5: They were booked I think for this night and then

1618
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 5: it got replaced with Hebero. Joh Walker had to pull out.

1619
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 2: There you go, There you go, So he would have

1620
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: had a big ish fight right there.

1621
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 1: I say, that's a tough fight for Johnny Walker.

1622
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, Yes, rush like that.

1623
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, tough guy.

1624
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: Also this Viking Walter Way Andreas Gustufson.

1625
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: Who apparently has very sketchy tattoos. I'm not sure what

1626
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: the truth is, but he tell me the tattoos need

1627
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: to be investigated.

1628
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: He oh is he dating Andrea League too? He's a

1629
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: self professed caveman, Luke, is this the caveman we all deserve?

1630
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: Because no game plan? Squaring up walking into chaos Williams's

1631
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 2: personal space for fifteen minutes at full speed and full damage.

1632
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: Do he beat the shit out of him?

1633
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? He did? Again, putting the tattoo issue aside for

1634
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: just a moment because I'm not sure what the truth is.

1635
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, you tried to out somebody as a racist

1636
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: last time you were well, Eddie Hall, were you wrong

1637
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: on that one?

1638
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: No?

1639
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right.

1640
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: Well, well, I don't know where he stands currently, but

1641
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, did he say that in twenty thirteen? Yeah

1642
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: he did. No, who knows today doesn't matter. What I'm

1643
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: trying to make is if we're just evaluating the fight

1644
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: on the fight terms BC, you know, under hooking and

1645
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: then just forcing a guy into basically the greco version

1646
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: of an m M A fight is exactly what he

1647
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: needed to do, and Kaos Williams just had no way

1648
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: of doing anything other than hanging on and playing catch up.

1649
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,919
Speaker 1: I mean again, the best guys and the winningest fighters

1650
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: tend to put fights on their terms. This was about

1651
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: as clear as an example of that as it gets.

1652
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, but all in all, I thought

1653
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: of fun card. All in all, I learned some things.

1654
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: I was entertained. I wasn't unhappy.

1655
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: But you knock out the check hook.

1656
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, dude, that was one of the best perfect.

1657
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: Face first stiffened up and went boom.

1658
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: Why did they call him?

1659
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: What do they call him?

1660
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 2: Little uh zombie Junior zombie junr just just because he's another.

1661
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: Well I think he I think he approaching like yeah,

1662
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: and then also like you know, he big bigs them

1663
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: up and all.

1664
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, that guy is a fun guy to watch.

1665
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: Listen. It wasn't the biggest night of fights, but I thought,

1666
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean, when it was over, it was the only

1667
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: thing that's kind of interesting is the co main event

1668
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: went a little quietly and then marob to me up

1669
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: the ante by getting the sub But because it was

1670
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: a fight that was probably not supposed to be made anyway,

1671
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: we've talked about it again. It was made for largely,

1672
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: I think promotional reasons, not like total a mariage a

1673
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: lot of love, thought so, but because that, because that

1674
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: was circumvented, and then he gets finished even quicker. I

1675
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: think a lot of fans are like, oh, well, what

1676
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: the you know, what was the point of that? So

1677
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of that happened.

1678
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke anyone else we should be talking about.

1679
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they kind of screwed Sergey Speedvac, but you

1680
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: know what happens.

1681
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 5: He definitely screwed Sergey Spivack.

1682
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the guy.

1683
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 6: I got to give a shout out to Quillen sal

1684
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 6: killed my my Aussie brethren. He got another dub there.

1685
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 6: It looked well rounded.

1686
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 5: You know maybe somebody or no, he trains with the

1687
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 5: I don't know if he trains with JDM, but he's.

1688
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 2: Firkb is in New Zealand, right do I always get

1689
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: that wrong?

1690
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: Is in New Zealand? Yes, awesome.

1691
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: I always assume it's you know, just one big island,

1692
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: the two Islands. No, it's not to Tasmania, Luke. You

1693
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,160
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1694
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1695
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1696
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1697
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Speaker 2: Said, let's go to topic number four. In Norfolk, we

1741
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: have a problem. Keishaan Davis, formerly the unbeaten still unbeaten,

1742
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,879
Speaker 2: but formerly the WBO lightweight champion, was expected to headline

1743
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: at his home arena, The Scope in Norfolk against hard

1744
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 2: hitting Edwin de Los Santos in the first defense of

1745
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: his new title. Then he had a forty eight hour

1746
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: implode freefall of his own personal stock that it was

1747
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: one after another and it kept escalating. Here. This is

1748
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: almost we haven't seen before. You know, Davis, I'm big

1749
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: high on the businessman one of three fighting brothers in

1750
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: the Davis family that go by dB three. He looked

1751
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: like he was starting to knock on pound for pounds,

1752
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: starting to really become whether he's part of the four

1753
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: five six Kings or not, or Prince's a true breakout star.

1754
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: But in two days he missed wait for the fight

1755
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: by four point three pounds and then was accused by everyone,

1756
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: including his own promoter Top Ranks Bob Aram, of not

1757
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: even trying or showing any remorse to cut that weight.

1758
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: Here's a tweet from Dan Rayfields has talked to Bob

1759
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 2: Aaron about Kishon. He was not happy. The quote from Aaron,

1760
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: you can tell if a guy is trying to make

1761
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 2: weight and just can't, you can see that he's dehydrated.

1762
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: That wasn't the case with Kishon. He never really tried

1763
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: to make one thirty five. That's my view of what happened.

1764
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: End quote. So not only did Kishon not try to

1765
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: cut down on the weight, his gamble that Edwin Dalo

1766
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: Santos would be okay with it and that they could

1767
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 2: figure out a deal in a transfer of a percentage

1768
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 2: of his purse never happened. Why because Halo Santos is

1769
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 2: promoter Sampson Lukewitz saw Kishon's back at the way and

1770
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: saw that it wasn't sweaty at all, saw that he

1771
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: didn't try to cut the weight, and after a short

1772
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: negotiation that got contentious there Halo Santos pulled out of

1773
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: the fight completely top rank, being forced to pace the

1774
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: pay the purse. This was during a week that the

1775
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: mayor of Norfolk declared Kishan Davis Week in Norfolk, and

1776
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: the original plan, according to my sources, was that he

1777
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: was going to be given a key to the city

1778
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: after the win. So we go to fight night. Remember

1779
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: they flew in Michael Vick, Shaquille and you're like all

1780
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford, all these stars to really ellen Iverson to

1781
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 2: celebrate that area and then the seven towns or cities.

1782
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: That's my first cell phone island because I was like

1783
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: William and Mary was a seven seven.

1784
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, it couldn't have got crazier until it did.

1785
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: So people may not remember two years ago Keishawn Davis

1786
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: fought and he hear all Bright of Philadelphia won a

1787
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: very close majority decision over him. Then Kishaw popped from

1788
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 2: marijuana in the state of Texas and got turned to

1789
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: a no contest now here. Albright hasn't fought since then.

1790
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 2: He's been fighting in Team Combat League. Yet. Kelvin Davis,

1791
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 2: the older brother of Kishawn, wanted the fight with Nahiro.

1792
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 2: I was telling you that was going to be a

1793
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: tough matchup. The heer, Albright pulls the upset and does

1794
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: it in dominant fashion, landing huge power shots. Now, according

1795
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 2: to Albright, who had a locker room next to Kishawn,

1796
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: he was celebrating. The Davis brothers overheard it, got annoyed,

1797
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: they ran in, attacked him, head budded him. If we

1798
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: can show the dual picture here a long island Luke

1799
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 2: of the before and after. On the left, you'll see

1800
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 2: all Bright after the fight, which he won by I

1801
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: think splitter majority decision and it shouldn't have been. He dominated.

1802
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: And then you can see on the right him after

1803
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: that first incident where he has the big knot on

1804
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: his head, So Luke. He was interviewed on the right

1805
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: there by Mark Kriegel in the outside of the locker room.

1806
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 2: Kishawn and his brother Keon ran into the locker room

1807
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 2: head but they had tried to fight him. The cupman

1808
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: and the coach pulled them away, they separated. Then he

1809
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: goes out in a live interview on TV and tells

1810
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: everybody what happened. Kishawan and Keon come running back, and

1811
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: we have video of this. This was the second altercation

1812
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 2: in which Kishan's infant son, who was in a stroller,

1813
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 2: was nearly trampled. Both him and his brother Keon needed

1814
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: to be separated. Kelvin was reportedly ejected by local police

1815
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: from the arena after blowing weight on the main event.

1816
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: Twenty percent of the fans got a refund, which is

1817
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: what happens when the main event gets.

1818
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,839
Speaker 1: Changed or canceled.

1819
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: Canceled and may have you know, may have legal issues

1820
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: for all we know from this. So Luke, it's funny

1821
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: because throughout this weekend you kept texting me this is

1822
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 2: such a stain, He'll never come back from this. And

1823
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: after each you know, escalation, I'm like, yeah, well I'll

1824
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: be all right, Yeah, Okay, Now it is unforeseen levels

1825
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 2: right now as we speak for Davis and by proxy

1826
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: the dB three, his three brothers, will they ever be

1827
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: able to fully recover from this?

1828
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I wish I could easily say yes. I

1829
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: cannot easily say yes.

1830
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: I mean.

1831
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: It is this is so bad that you almost have

1832
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: to treat Keishaan Davis as the Manchurian candidate. Have you

1833
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: seen this movie?

1834
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: I know of the movie, I haven't seen.

1835
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: It's a story, but the basic idea is that a

1836
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: guy is in control by another group and this sort

1837
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: of infiltrating and then you know it uses the They

1838
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: use that guy to, you know, to wield the other

1839
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: group's interest against the home group, right, sort of like

1840
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: a trojan horse kind of thing. You almost have to

1841
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: treat him like I'm mentorian candidate, as as someone programmed

1842
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: him to make every possible decision to make things worse

1843
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: for him, worse for himself from missing weight, not just

1844
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: missing WEIGHTBC, but being kind of unrepentant about it. Yes, right,

1845
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: didn't try to cut weight, and when they asked him,

1846
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: he was like, I knew I was going to go

1847
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: up to forty anyway, and it was like, well, then.

1848
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: He tried to play the weight billy trick where you

1849
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 2: give up the bell because you're gonna move up anyway,

1850
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 2: but then you get the advantage.

1851
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: So you lose your title on the scale. The thing

1852
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: goes way and then the negotiations go sideways with Delo Santos, who,

1853
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: by the way, by a Virginia edict, still gets paid anyway.

1854
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: So you think Bob Baron's happy about that top rank.

1855
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: Is in the middle of trying to find a new

1856
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: television deal. American boxing is desperate for a new star,

1857
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: and you can't even act right on the day of

1858
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: the fight, which again the main event is canceled in

1859
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: your homecoming celebration.

1860
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 2: And this wasn't one This wasn't one fight that got

1861
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 2: in control.

1862
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 16: It was two.

1863
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: Attacks to the point where they then have to escort

1864
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: you out of the building on fight night. The only

1865
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: thing missing from this utter calamity is he didn't pop

1866
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: positive on a drug test or spend the night in jail,

1867
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,919
Speaker 1: or there was a more serious crime. But essentially virtually

1868
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: everything he could have done to sully his name, to

1869
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: make people not interested, to piss off the promoter, to

1870
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: piss off your home fan base, which is by the way,

1871
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: kind of essential to building a national and then ultimately

1872
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 1: international fan base, he did everything possible on BC. It

1873
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: is now past noon on Monday, and he still has

1874
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: not really issued any kind of statement that even borders

1875
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: on contrition. We talked about this over the Weekend. David

1876
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: Benavidez has made some mistakes earlier in his career. The

1877
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: first time we interviewed him in an Ellen MK, he

1878
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: lost his title on the scales, but he kind of

1879
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: rallied himself. And now that's kind of in the mirrors.

1880
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: Here.

1881
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: But now no one even thinks about that because of

1882
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: how professional he's run. So maybe Keishon can turn a corner.

1883
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: But Dave, I remember when we interviewed Benavidez that day,

1884
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: he seemed kind of contrite about it. Keishawan seems like

1885
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: the world has done him a disservice by acting him

1886
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: to by asking him to act according to the to

1887
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: the agreement that he made to be a professional. This

1888
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: is a total nuclear Chernobyl level disaster for a guy.

1889
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 2: Stock people have asked me in the DMS and you know,

1890
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: like like the kind of question that I just asked you, like, well,

1891
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: can he come back from this? The answer is yes.

1892
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: Boxing is a short memory. It's forgiving as long as

1893
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 2: you handle your business in the ring, and then it

1894
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: helps it go faster if you show, you know, an

1895
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: instant repentance from this line of activity, if you come

1896
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: out and say, look I was you know, believing in

1897
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: my hype too much, and he felt like it in

1898
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 2: all his interviews. His interviews, including the one with me

1899
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 2: on my YouTube channel, was great because he's so damn cocky.

1900
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 2: Don't put me in with Ryan and Haney and the

1901
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: four Princes. I don't want to be any of that.

1902
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: I'm the one. I'm the goat. Like it's refreshing. He's

1903
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: this badass that wants it. This couldn't not have gone

1904
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: any worse for him, Like your point, as if he's

1905
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: almost trying to bring it upon himself and I just

1906
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 2: can't figure out, like what was he thinking? I mean

1907
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: to escalate it in every single way. So top rank

1908
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: elevated the Coal Maine event, which happens to be a

1909
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: fighter in his own division, Abdulla Mason, who we love

1910
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: the young prospect when he improved to sixteen to ohero

1911
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: with fourteen KOs just twenty one years old, he got

1912
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 2: elevated to the main event. He handled his business against

1913
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Nakatia, the veteran, and stopped him in the fifth round.

1914
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you heard the top rank

1915
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: ESPN Brocas they were giving it to Keishawn and rightfully so.

1916
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: And then elevating as well, this is the future, the

1917
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: guy who might be fighting for the vacant title next

1918
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 2: for all we know. In Abdela Mason, I sent you

1919
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: that video at the at the What Thursday press conference

1920
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: where Abdullah and Kishan were sitting next to each other

1921
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: and Keishawan took umbrage with Mason, saying that like, he's

1922
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: ready for a title shot, he's ready to fight the best,

1923
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: and they had a back and forth and we were

1924
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 2: all like, oh my god, they could fight each other too,

1925
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: and Bob was like, well, maybe two to three years now,

1926
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: it feels like they're just almost moved Kishan aside and

1927
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: was like, past us, let's push a abdelamation. But the

1928
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: fact that all bright got sucked into this, the fact

1929
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: that they were the Davids family were willing to take

1930
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: that fight when that was Keshawn's hardest fight arguably up

1931
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: to this point. And then the guy gets attacked twice.

1932
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 2: So was the second one for snitching on live TV

1933
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: because they didn't have locker room footage that they shared

1934
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: of the fight, just the stuff that happened in the hallway.

1935
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 2: Here's the hero all right. Afterwards, kind of trying to

1936
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: figure out what happened.

1937
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 12: Locker room and celebrated my victory with my team and

1938
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 12: uh yeah keys showing and his little brother came in

1939
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 12: and they started looking at me. It's like something they're

1940
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 12: saying something about his older brother. Like they was mad,

1941
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 12: and he like grabbed me, pushing me back. I'm like

1942
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 12: grabbing his hand. He like moved his head towards my

1943
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 12: my head, you know, got like a little so you

1944
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 12: bumped heads. Yeah, he like head button me. Yeah, he

1945
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 12: like head button me. So yeah, so yeah that's what happened.

1946
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Any words between you and them after the fight that

1947
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 1: might have led to this incident.

1948
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 12: No, Actually, like I, like I said, I was in

1949
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 12: the locker room. The locker room is right next door

1950
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 12: to mine, so I guess they heard like us, like

1951
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 12: happy and all that kind of stuff, and they came

1952
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 12: in and yeah, started trouble.

1953
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 13: Did anyone punch you or anything?

1954
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 15: Or is it just a head bunt?

1955
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: Just grab head? But why do you think they would

1956
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: do this?

1957
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 12: I mean they upset that they brother lost, and yeah,

1958
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 12: sports sport, poor sportsmanship. I never never been through this.

1959
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 12: I never seen no one go through this.

1960
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so altercation and who ended it?

1961
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 12: My coaches like grabbed him and then I think security

1962
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 12: came in and grabbed him.

1963
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 2: There's a video of Shawn like trying to charge again.

1964
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: Was there like a second time or was there.

1965
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 12: Like that was my my older brother, my older brother,

1966
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 12: because he was trying to talk to them like that

1967
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 12: was unprofessional and things like that, and uh yeah, it

1968
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 12: just got crazy. His team, my older brother name is

1969
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 12: Terence Brown.

1970
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 4: Anyone on his team.

1971
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 2: So Luke Mason now getting the big push. He may

1972
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: end up fighting for that title soon. And here is

1973
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Mason reacting to this when they when he was asked

1974
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 2: after the fight, they.

1975
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: Jumped al Bright, what are your thoughts on leaving the

1976
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: fighting to the ring?

1977
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 8: I mean, that's not how I get down, you know,

1978
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 8: I say, that's a You see what me and my

1979
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 8: brothers said. You know, we ain't hear in a locker

1980
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 8: women together. You know, we enjoyed our win and like

1981
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 8: I said, we about business.

1982
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: He said, what happened.

1983
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: So Luke, he can turn it around, but you're gonna

1984
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: have to see instant repentance, a change, you know, giving

1985
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: back to the community for for what he was unable

1986
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: to give this time around. And it's gonna take time.

1987
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean we have short memories when people go back

1988
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 2: in the ring and handle themselves and remind us of

1989
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: how great they are. We love second chance stories even

1990
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: more than someone achieving the first time. But this felt

1991
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: like like a villain heel turn here, you know what

1992
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: I mean, Like I'm not and it's like, you know,

1993
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: Keishan was acting a little crazy in a lead up

1994
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: to this, and he's had, you know, admitted some very

1995
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 2: serious mental health troubles in the past and battles that

1996
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: he's been through. So I certainly hope everything is you know,

1997
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: together in his mind's where it needs to be, but

1998
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: it just didn't seem like it.

1999
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's how bad this is. It's like now,

2000
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia had a different set of troubles because he

2001
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: did pop positive for performance dancing drugs and that, you know,

2002
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: and then he had the subsequent performance where he looked

2003
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: quite poor, and so there's bigger issues. But I just

2004
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: want to point out on fight week when he fought

2005
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: Devin Haney, he was engaging in every manner of possible

2006
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: unprofessional behavior. But he did show up on fight night

2007
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: and he did compete for twelve rounds and you know,

2008
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: essentially got a victory there, and the fans were largely

2009
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: in support of him all the way through. In other words,

2010
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: you can be like an insanely odious person, you can misweight,

2011
01:27:55,400 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 1: but you can't be so self sabotaging that everything falls apart,

2012
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: including the fight and even your ability to be in

2013
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: the arena. Right, you still have to be a part

2014
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: of boxing for this to work. He couldn't even deliver

2015
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: on that. This is I gotta be honest. I don't

2016
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: know if I've seen self sabotage in what I've seen

2017
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: incremental self sabotage where it lasted, you know, years or.

2018
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: So Andrew Galata in big fights.

2019
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: Yes, Constance, okay, but it wasn't It wasn't forty eight hours.

2020
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: This was basically forty eight hours of pure disaster.

2021
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: I mean even make it to the ring and then

2022
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: to I mean it's tough, and it's such a talent, like.

2023
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: What would be the closest equivalent. I don't know what

2024
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: the answer.

2025
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: Colors just changed, you hope this is a humbling, career

2026
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 2: altering moment in a good way, not a negative way.

2027
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 2: We don't play the video, but Albright would go on

2028
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 2: to say that Terrence Crawford and bow Mac Brian McIntyre,

2029
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: who's the trainer of the three Davis brothers, came into

2030
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: the locker room to apologize afterwards, Like it.

2031
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: Was that did you see bow Mack catching some strays?

2032
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: Because he always has the families, Okay, he always says, well,

2033
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: we'll go to that video here and sit, let's chick.

2034
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 14: In apologize to you or anything anyone from their camp

2035
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 14: or anything.

2036
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 15: After all this happened to Kelvin apologized to here or

2037
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 15: what did he say?

2038
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 12: Bo Mack and Tamas Prawford came in and it was like,

2039
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 12: I'm sorry for the inconvenience?

2040
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did that mean?

2041
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 4: How much did that mean? It meant to lie?

2042
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: I got a picture of us.

2043
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, I hope it's on this phone, but yeah, I

2044
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 12: was like I had to take in the moment being

2045
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 12: a champion.

2046
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 1: And then Tamas Crawford comes to your room.

2047
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to the here now, honest question, should the

2048
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 2: next fight be in here? All brighton rematch with Keyshon Davis.

2049
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: He came close the first time. He just beat his brother.

2050
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 2: He's got attacked twice, Like is that the punishment for Keishawn?

2051
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: You know, in the reward for all brit I would

2052
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: not hate that idea. I hadn't thought about that, but

2053
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: I would not hate that idea.

2054
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 2: And I know we're pushing late on time, but I

2055
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 2: have to bring this up. And I hate saying because

2056
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: you know, I love boxing and love this generation of

2057
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: young American stars. But when the Time Square fight happened

2058
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: May second, and in one night, the stocks of Ryan

2059
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 2: Garcia and Devin Haney just went plummeting in a win

2060
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 2: and a loss while we're trying to hype a potential

2061
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 2: rematch against them, and then everyone's going to see enough

2062
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 2: with this four Princes, five kings. They ain't it. They're cursed.

2063
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Let me just say this, Ryan Garcia, drug issues, a

2064
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: lot of issues, just had a very wildly just had

2065
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 2: a very bad loss. Okay. Devin Haney in a comeback

2066
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 2: win from an awful performance and an awful circumstance, had

2067
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 2: like the worst possible way to win, where people are like,

2068
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 2: he's scared, his stock is down. Curse. Stevenson still has

2069
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 2: the talent, but like got booed in consecutive fights, including

2070
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 2: one of this Whome Arena for being too passive. Who

2071
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 2: am I missing here? Tank is kind of going through

2072
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 2: that situation with Roach with the controversial draw and Tank

2073
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: talking about retirement a lot. And then do you throw

2074
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 2: in Keishaan throwing it all away? Or are they cursed

2075
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 2: or is this just part of the life cycle here?

2076
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like Floyd had some rough moments outside the

2077
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: ring on his rise up. It's not you know, I

2078
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 2: mean that that happens in boxing, happens a lot. I

2079
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 2: don't know.

2080
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: It just feels like you can see the decline of

2081
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: American boxing through them. You can you can see you

2082
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: can see.

2083
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Where they're all not going to live up to their expectations, right,

2084
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 2: but at the same time, they're all kind of down

2085
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: at the moment, right, Like, in.

2086
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Some way you can understand what is wrong with American

2087
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: boxing by taking a look at their careers. Yes, even

2088
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: as bright as they sometimes are, Tao sometimes has bridespots.

2089
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 2: Too, Femo being the other one.

2090
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Just Jah Kishan also has bride spots. Of course. You know,

2091
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: Gavontae Davis has been, you know, arguably the face of

2092
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 1: American boxing four time.

2093
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 2: But all right, let's go to topic number five. We

2094
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 2: said we were going to talk about this again, but

2095
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 2: now we finally have Dana White talking about this, but

2096
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 2: does he know what he's talking about. It's interesting.

2097
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: Dana White, who.

2098
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: Skipped the UFC three fifteen postfight press conference in Montreal

2099
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: and then skipped both the way in and pre fight

2100
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 2: press conference at UFC three sixteen, did arrive on Saturday

2101
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 2: after pedaling his new form Anheuser Bush Energy drink during

2102
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: the week, and did take questions after being Trump's caddy

2103
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,440
Speaker 2: at UFC three sixteen. One of the big topics surrounded

2104
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Will Jones Aspinall ever happen, and now the escalation of

2105
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 2: the past week, which has seen John Jones tweet about

2106
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 2: five thousand times about he doesn't care if he stripped,

2107
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to fight, he doesn't think Aspinall deserves it,

2108
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: blah to the blah. Also, you have Francis and Ganu

2109
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 2: through trainer Eric nickxx saying he's interested in coming back.

2110
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 2: We show the quote tweet from Francis and Don Davis

2111
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 2: of how this escalated even further. First you had Francis

2112
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: saying to John Jones, you take care of the UFC,

2113
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 2: I'll take care of the PFL and we'll finally find

2114
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: out who's the king of heavyweight. And then Don Davis,

2115
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 2: who was feeling himself. He had a good week with PFL.

2116
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 2: We got twenty five dollars tickets, We got.

2117
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: The app which I downloaded, yeah, and took a look

2118
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: at It's pretty good.

2119
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 2: So Don was on fire. He's like, hey, proposal Jones

2120
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 2: versus aspinall winner take all, best MMA heavyweight of all time.

2121
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: Don even pitched that if Francis wins PFL and Francis

2122
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 2: split one hundred percent of the profits, the same for

2123
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 2: John in the UFC on the flip side. But Dana,

2124
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: who either is playing the game that he always does

2125
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: with the media or is legitimately checked out, doesn't follow

2126
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 2: the news cycle and has no idea, had no idea

2127
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 2: this stuff with John was even going on. Let's hear

2128
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: from Dana.

2129
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 17: It's a conversation we've had many times now the Domspinol

2130
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 17: John Jidant's fight. It's a bit different now, right because

2131
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 17: John's been tweeting a lot about the fact that he's

2132
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 17: told you his plans.

2133
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 2: He's ready to vacate the belt and all the rest

2134
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 2: of it.

2135
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 4: He said he's ready to vacate the best.

2136
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 17: Said he doesn't care if he's straighten it, but he

2137
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 17: would vacate it.

2138
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 18: Fucking crazy. Yeah, I've been busy. I haven't been keeping

2139
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 18: up with the gossip. He comes back. He's either back

2140
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 18: today or came back yesterday or whenever. He you know,

2141
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 18: he's in Thailand, so he's home. We'll be home tonight

2142
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 18: and Tuesday, we'll figure this out.

2143
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 17: If he doesn't fight, so because he'll I called out

2144
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 17: Francis and Gane. He said, rather fight Francis, which I john, Yeah, okay,

2145
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 17: not that interested in that then. But if he doesn't fight,

2146
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 17: Tim Aspital and he does walk away, do you think.

2147
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 2: He's ducked him?

2148
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: Would you?

2149
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 4: Aspinall's the guy. He's the guy.

2150
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 18: So I don't know if the guy wants to retire

2151
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 18: and doesn't want to fight, nothing you do. I didn't

2152
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 18: want Abib to retire. I didn't want I thought DC

2153
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 18: should have stayed any longer. So it's it's it's none

2154
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 18: of my business.

2155
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 16: Uh.

2156
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 18: I'll do what I can to make the fight if

2157
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 18: we can. If he's talking that great, I didn't realize that.

2158
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 2: I last all the list.

2159
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 17: I remember the time when GSP announced he was walking

2160
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 17: Johnny Hendricks fight, and you said he owes it to

2161
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 17: the belt and the company to at least defend it

2162
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 17: against the guy that rightfully should fight for it.

2163
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: Do you think that's kind of the same day with John?

2164
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: All right, Oscar, what's up with a fillbuster?

2165
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? But John's been John's been John since he walked

2166
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 4: in the door here.

2167
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: So I give credit to the reports. They didn't ask

2168
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 2: all the questions I wanted and Long Island, look, you

2169
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 2: were you were you in that group of people I

2170
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 2: left before Dana, Okay, Dand it came out very late,

2171
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 2: but uh, like they ask good questions and they even

2172
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 2: push back and and before I get your take on this,

2173
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 2: the big news reveal came from Dana. It was that

2174
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 2: that John officially agreed to the fight at some point,

2175
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: didn't sign the contract, but officially agreed to I'm guessing

2176
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 2: to what the number and the fact that he'll do it,

2177
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm guessing. And then even Mike Bowen asked him a

2178
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: second time to explain it. But I think this is, uh,

2179
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 2: this is Dana revealing that let's listen to it one

2180
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: more time in your heart.

2181
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: Do you believe that this is just the process or

2182
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 3: is it ultimately you'll get him to fight in anything?

2183
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 18: It's definitely the process with John Jones been going through

2184
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 18: this since the day he started here, and it's yeah,

2185
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 18: it's definitely the process.

2186
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: Do you believe him?

2187
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 4: And Anderson?

2188
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 18: So every time, you know, throughout the history of being

2189
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 18: in business with those guys, when it comes time to

2190
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 18: get them fight, it's like dealing with artists interesting.

2191
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Us.

2192
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 3: Your gut, Like, in your gut right now, does it

2193
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 3: tell you that that fight will end up happening?

2194
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 4: What's that like?

2195
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: In your gut? Do you think that fight will ultimately

2196
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 1: end up happening?

2197
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2198
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 18: I mean I've been saying it since the beginning, and

2199
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 18: John Jones agreed to do the fight. So John Jones

2200
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 18: was offered the deal and accepted the deal.

2201
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's big. But I think and even important

2202
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 2: do you believe that? Well? I want to sub in

2203
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 2: an even more important question if I even ask you

2204
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 2: if you believe that? Is this evidence? And I thought

2205
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 2: Zach Arnold had a really nice piece of this morning

2206
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: the Nima draw where he just basically said this was

2207
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: Dana on full display, showing you that he's the brand

2208
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 2: ambassador and the influencer and nothing more. He's not part

2209
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: of the decision making. He seemed to have no clue

2210
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't there all weak? He sort of just flies in,

2211
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 2: walks trump in and that's his role? Am I going

2212
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 2: to ham on that? And it's not like it's a

2213
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 2: new conversation, but like, did you get any feeling like

2214
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: now what he did say about working with Turkey for

2215
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 2: Canelo Crawford seemed to be confirmed by a Turkey tweet

2216
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 2: that came after overnight. But on this topic, is Dana

2217
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 2: still Dana or is he just the rich guy that

2218
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: they have to keep busy so he could be the

2219
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 2: face of the promotion.

2220
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: I think I would be speaking out of turn if

2221
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: I made a big proclamation about how he is viewed

2222
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 1: within TKO and what role he actually has. But I

2223
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 1: don't know how you can watch this And again, he

2224
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: wasn't at the way ends. He was not at media

2225
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: not media da I'm sorry, the press conference and because

2226
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: he was promoting his own drink or I'm sure he's

2227
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: very very I mean, this is the issue where he's

2228
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: clearly busy, to the point where it's like it is

2229
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: very obvious that the UFC does not occupy the same

2230
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: space in his orbit as it once did.

2231
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 2: Were wasting our time here as one I don't know

2232
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 2: if it ever will again, Like, I'll give him that

2233
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: Hunter's probably the one negotiating that the dollar value from

2234
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: instructions from Ari and Shapiro. Yes, but like, is Dana

2235
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 2: actually the one that pauls John calls aspinall? Like is

2236
01:37:58,840 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: he just out of that?

2237
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Is h I think he does some of that, But

2238
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: I think Hunter does most of that too. I mean

2239
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. I hit up guys who still

2240
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: go to shows and I kind of asked them, like

2241
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: what the vibe is and stuff like that. And I

2242
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, what's the deal with Dana not

2243
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: being at the presser and Dana not being at the

2244
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: way and like, oh, well, he's expected to arrive tomorrow.

2245
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you going to ask? And

2246
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: they've told me, like I've heard of some several different guys.

2247
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 1: It's like even when he shows up, sometimes he doesn't

2248
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: even say anything, you dude, Like, and this is a

2249
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: guy who used to scrum it up after every pay

2250
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 1: per view and then literally spar with the media right

2251
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: taking taking you know, rapid fire questions.

2252
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 2: So at three fifteen where he where he skipped out

2253
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 2: on the POSTWAP press conference and then reportedly got right

2254
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 2: on the private jet and left. Don't forget that press

2255
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 2: conference before the fight, which he also hosted, was the

2256
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 2: quickest one I've ever seen. They went from Actually this

2257
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 2: one with Annik was quick too.

2258
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 1: Was twenteen minutes.

2259
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 2: It was like same thing, like fifteen sixteen minutes. Let's

2260
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 2: let's let's face them off.

2261
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, It just did the question you

2262
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, And this is only what only

2263
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: TKO can answer this, which is, do you still see

2264
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 1: not Dana White as an important representative of the brand,

2265
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: because clearly that is still a thing, but rather do

2266
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: you still see him as the media and then world

2267
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: outreach bulldog for the brain No, and I think that

2268
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: they've moved on from that role.

2269
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Then they should just have I'm honest, they should have

2270
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 2: Hunter Campbell come out for the post fight now, because

2271
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 2: that it sends to be the only time you get

2272
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 2: all back and forth. They asked the real questions, and

2273
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:20,759
Speaker 2: again I thought the media did a good job asking

2274
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 2: those real questions. They asked about the media deal, Dana

2275
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: understandably was I can't give you up.

2276
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: They will let you know. He might know as soon

2277
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 1: as next month.

2278
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 2: Right, and I understand that that is a fluid situation,

2279
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: but I don't know if this means anything to Jones Askma,

2280
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing that that there's no

2281
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 2: answers on this. It's embarrassing to ask me alt and

2282
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 2: we talk about it every week. It's fucking embarrassing. I mean,

2283
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 2: if they are holding this for the new TV deal,

2284
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 2: then I'll never forgive them.

2285
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 1: They were really going to hold this to twenty twenty six, I.

2286
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 2: Don't know, but it's just embarrassing and unforgivable for Dana

2287
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 2: to make it seem like I believed him, unless he's

2288
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: acting like he has no fun. Oh John said what

2289
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 2: I've like, I just says just not even remotely dialed in.

2290
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 16: Uh.

2291
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 2: They did ask him though, but he ever really and Anghana.

2292
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 3: What would happen if he came to you and says like,

2293
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 3: I'll fight, but I won't fight Aspinall. I would fight

2294
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 3: in Ghanu. Would you even be interested in that?

2295
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 4: Or no, I don't have and Ghana on her track contract?

2296
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 4: And Aspinall is the guy.

2297
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 3: Right, If you were put in the position, would you

2298
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 3: maybe try to get and Ghanu back on her contract?

2299
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 2: Or no, probably not understood. I'm just I'm just curious

2300
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 2: about the business.

2301
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: Who does that? Who does that?

2302
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 2: I mean, here's they don't serve the fans anymore.

2303
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: Here's a basic question. How does boycotting working with in

2304
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: Ghanu help UFC fans? Dude, there's literally not an argument

2305
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 1: for it.

2306
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Vinci Mannel, you almost me.

2307
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to man would sign people he had terrible.

2308
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: Terrible because he wins them making him money. He wins.

2309
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 2: Who would Who.

2310
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Did he sign that I might recognize? Who had a

2311
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: horrendous bee for it?

2312
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 2: There's a list, Okay, Brett Hall, Bruno, Sam Martino, like

2313
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 2: he inevitably reunites with everybody, hul Coke and like anybody

2314
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 2: beef with Punk cm Pung like everybody ends up coming back.

2315
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 2: And it's it's You could frame it at his love

2316
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 2: for his own business and serving the fans, but even

2317
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 2: if it's just under him just being a ruthless business gangster.

2318
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 2: He wants you to have He'll he'll let you win

2319
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: the Rustlemania match, but he wants you to have to

2320
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 2: come back in and and he's gonna make money off

2321
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 2: of you. Either way, the fans win, the company wins

2322
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: these stupid things like that twenty twenty five and and

2323
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 2: forward on UFC can't have this anymore, can't have these stupid.

2324
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 1: I would just love to hear what the argument is

2325
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: that keeping Francis out is better for UFC fans. I

2326
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: don't I don't understand what that could possibly be.

2327
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, all right, And then real quick, here is

2328
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 2: Dana on Canelo Crawford, which I want to get your

2329
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: response to what you think happened here.

2330
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: And then just last one for me, more unrelated to

2331
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 1: this fight.

2332
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 11: But Turkey made it seem like you weren't gonna be

2333
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 11: promoting the Terrence Crawford Canelo fight. Is there anything you

2334
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 11: can kind of clear up on that.

2335
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 4: He made it feel like I wasn't.

2336
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he said that some other someone else was

2337
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: promoting it. He didn't say no TKO.

2338
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 11: He just didn't include your name in a tweet, and

2339
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 11: people kind of freaked out online about where Dana go.

2340
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 18: I'm gonna tell you what's awesome, man. So there's a

2341
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 18: lot of fucked up things about boxing, but they don't

2342
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 18: say shit. I mean, nobody talks. It's the most amazing thing.

2343
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 18: If we sign a deal. I gotta fucking get out

2344
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 18: my phone quick. We just fucking cause ninety thousand people

2345
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 18: will be out there talking about it.

2346
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 4: These guys don't talk. I'm promoting the fight.

2347
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 1: Is that fight happening in Vegas still, because.

2348
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 4: I'll let you guys know when it's time to let

2349
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 4: you know.

2350
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 2: So did Turkey and not flip out on Netflix? I

2351
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 2: don't understand it, but.

2352
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 1: No, I mean I've heard from a few different people

2353
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: that there was clearly an issue there.

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Speaker 2: There's Turkey the wildcard, and Dana is actually, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: What I That's what I think. I think. Actually, Dana

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01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: is the dude. Say which you like Dana or not

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01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: like Dana? He does get deals done, has been getting

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Speaker 1: deals done for literally decades. It's like the old a lot, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean again, when he wants to, he can be

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Speaker 1: quite effective. I think Turkey is the wild card here.

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01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: Turkey is the one that just wants things. And also,

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Speaker 1: I think I said I did. I said it before,

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01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: Canelo took a back seat to Jorge Masvotal versus Nate

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01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: Diaz when you fought coviallev on his own.

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Speaker 2: He'll never do that again.

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Speaker 1: He'll never do that again.

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Speaker 2: He ain't never fight.

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Speaker 1: It's never going to play second fiddle to UFC on

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Speaker 1: Mexican Independence Day, and he's not.

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Speaker 2: the call to you, the fan, to let your voice

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Speaker 2: be heard. Ask us questions, but you better bring it in.

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Speaker 2: Sunday night. This one's called DMS from the h Thoughts

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01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 2: and they brought it back.

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01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: That's it, you know what. It's the second one. It's

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01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: the that post nut clarity one.

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Speaker 16: The UH.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we fought for that to go away

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01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 2: and then fought for it to came back.

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01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: We didn't fight for it to come back. The fans

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01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: fought us, that's true if we have to bring it back.

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01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 2: So let's hear from the fans. First question, what you

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01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 2: got for us? From Connor underscore Melee. Would anyone really

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01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: care if Amanda Nuness and Kayla Harrison just fought at

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01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 2: one forty five instead of thirty five. Let's just see

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01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: the fight pay per view main event with Valentina versus

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01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 2: way Lee in a Comaine super fight and have four

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01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,600
Speaker 2: of the legitimate ten best females of all time go

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01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 2: at it. I don't think they'll ever do a gimmick

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01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 2: like an all female card, but that's a pretty badass

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01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 2: main Comaine if they ever wanted.

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01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of discussed this earlier. They could do

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01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: it at forty five, and I don't mind that idea

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01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: as well. Again, they did in twenty fifteen they did

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01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: an all heavyweight card. Yes, they could do one, but

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01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 1: I just don't think that they would.

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01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,560
Speaker 2: All right, all right, interesting, I think you should do

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01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 2: this at a different weight class. We establish that. Let's

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01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:02,560
Speaker 2: go the second question here from at Elvis f Elvis Flexley.

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01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 2: If Mario Bautista, no, this is a good question. If

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01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 2: he'd never taken the Josie al To fight and got booed.

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01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 2: Would he be receiving significantly more fanfare?

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01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 1: No, right now, he'd be receiving a lot less hate,

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01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: but he would not. I mean that elevated his profile,

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01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,440
Speaker 1: but he would need another name to elevate his profile.

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01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 2: So no, no, I agree with that. Next in line

2437
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 2: is a fellow by the name of at Tactical Underscore

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01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: Athlete Underscore Motivation. Are you as pumped as I am

2439
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 2: for the pit style mat for UFCBJJ.

2440
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 4: Ding ding ding ding did?

2441
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,799
Speaker 2: Is not the same with a lot of local gyms

2442
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 2: starting to implement the wall for grappling as well as

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01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 2: CGI does. That's Craig Jones Invitational c JI.

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01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 1: What did I say, so ZG I like computer graphics?

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01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 2: Sorry about that? Uh luke? Do you think this will

2446
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 2: be the new standard for no GI grappling? So UFC

2447
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 2: announced this new what promotion UFC BJJ. Yes, with Claudia

2448
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 2: Goodella as what the face of him?

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01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 16: No?

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01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 1: U sort of she's been the matchmaker and essentially and

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01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 1: running it. And that's been true for what he used

2452
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,440
Speaker 1: to be called five Pass Invitational and now it's called UFCBJJ.

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01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 2: So the question is are you as pumped is this

2454
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:10,640
Speaker 2: person is well, I.

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01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: Mean, I any other promoter getting into the pro grappling

2456
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: space I think is fine. I'm a little bit concerned

2457
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: about one promoter trying to be the dominant brand in

2458
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 1: WW in pro wrestling, in MMA, inboxing and now also

2459
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: sports jiu jitsus fighting well, you know, which is very regal.

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01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit concerned about that. But like on

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01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 1: its face, like do they have a right to end

2462
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: on the space like anybody else does? Sure? Could they

2463
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: be unique contributors, sure, but again the exclusive contracts, it's

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01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: it's not show and win, it's showing sub And you

2465
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: know they didn't take the people are like, oh, well,

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01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: Craig Jones just took it from Karate Combat. No, he

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01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 1: licensed it from Karate combat for the pit and then

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01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 1: more to the point, they didn't do that. They just

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01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: made it like the Yama pit fighting thing where it's

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01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 1: like a bowl. So there was like Craig Jones put

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01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: out the famous Vanilla's thing when they asked him, did

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01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: you sample the David Bowie and Freddie Mercury song? And

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01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 1: he was like, you did the whole ding ding ding?

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01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 4: Did it ing ding?

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01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: It's like it's a little bit different like this on

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01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 1: of like, you know, nonsensical response to the whole thing.

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01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. Remember the UFC has the octagon shape

2478
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: trademarked for MMA. It seems like a little bit of

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01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I mean, I don't know what they're

2480
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: what the legal implication is, but it's clearly a derivative

2481
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: idea from CJI.

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01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: So what was Mikey Mussamechi promoting this list?

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01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah he's one of the coaches. Yeah, he's one of

2484
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: the coaches on their version of the Ultimate Fighter Y

2485
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 1: and it's gonna air wear him YouTube YouTube.

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01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not into grappling, although I think Craig

2487
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: Jones has a chance to make the people made me care.

2488
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: What's the paid difference between what UFC is offering and

2489
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 2: what Craig Jones does? Is it?

2490
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what Craig, I'm not sure. I'm not

2491
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 1: sure because I don't know how if if you lose

2492
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: early in CJI, do you get paid anything? I don't know,

2493
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 1: because remember it's a bit of a winner take alterna.

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01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 2: We get gimmicks like we had the time of high rollers,

2495
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 2: just like oh you lost.

2496
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 1: But here just get just billowing weed smoke into your face.

2497
01:48:58,960 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 1: We got to get moving, bro.

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01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Well I mean yeah, yeah, okay, what else you got?

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01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 1: Jan?

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01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 2: This is from Flannels and gits. We always hear from

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01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 2: this guy. With Mark Kerr the Smashing Machine being inducted

2502
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: to the UFC Hall of Fame and a feature film

2503
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 2: about his life on the way. Interesting timing there, Tko.

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01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 2: How would you define his legacy in combat sports? Do

2505
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: you have a favorite moment or performance from his career

2506
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 2: that stands out to you? Luke, there's been I don't

2507
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 2: want to say controversy because Mark Kerr a two time

2508
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 2: UFC Heavyweight Tournament champion and you know, star of the

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01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 2: Smashing Machine, great doc and all that, and had a

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01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 2: great run through Pride for in a short season at

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01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 2: as most roy did. He was very successful in an

2512
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 2: earlier era. But he fought in UFC on two nights

2513
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 2: of his career.

2514
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah to go in four to o.

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01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 2: But but like, is this a shameless Tko? Let's put

2516
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 2: him in the Hall of Fame to help promote the movie.

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01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: Because Duayne j was definitely an early pioneer and he

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01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: was definitely an early force in MMA. It's hard to

2519
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: give a legacy because he's.

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01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: A fun character. I liked him like he was like yeah,

2521
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 2: grit and yeah.

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01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean he competed at a time where just having

2523
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:04,560
Speaker 1: a name and being kind of a known figure in

2524
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: the sport was a relevant thing. But you know it's hard, like, oh,

2525
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 1: who's the best heavyweight? Well, he's not even in conversation

2526
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: of something like that. You're asking for a favorite moment.

2527
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 1: This is true. At one time was watching I used

2528
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 1: to buy Pride DVDs back in the day, and he

2529
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: thought a guy I don't have his record up in

2530
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: front of me. I believe his name is Mikhaiel like Illowen.

2531
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: He was like an early early early Russian, you know,

2532
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 1: pioneer and Mma not very good. If you watch real slowly,

2533
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: mark Her hits him with a can opener. That's where

2534
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: you put your hands from the guard and you put

2535
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: their chins to their chest and it's supposed to open

2536
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: the guard. And what you'll notice is he does it

2537
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 1: really hard. He gets the tap from the from this

2538
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 1: and the camera pans away and then it comes back.

2539
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 1: If you slow it down, you can clearly see something

2540
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 1: sticking out the back of the neck of the opponent

2541
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: from this can opener protruding through the back of the neck.

2542
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: He gets the tap right after and you can see

2543
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 1: him holding his neck so like, I've never seen a

2544
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 1: can opener more brutal in my life than that.

2545
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 2: Was insanely strong and are I thought it was the

2546
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 2: name of that guy, and it's weird. I saw just

2547
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 2: as many people being like that good that they're finally

2548
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 2: course correcting and getting him in as I've seen people

2549
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 2: be like he's only in because of the movie, Luke.

2550
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: It does feel I mean, it's if you're honoring what's

2551
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 2: the category they put it in, pioneer, pioneer, not any

2552
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 2: of that really matters, but like, yeah, he is a

2553
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 2: pioneer in that regard, but it is interesting timing.

2554
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, oh igor Borsov, I believe, Yes, sorry I

2555
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: had the name wrong. Egor Borsov can opener. This is

2556
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 1: a Pride ten Return of the Warriors. Do you ever

2557
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 1: see of the nastiest candobird as I've ever seen?

2558
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: You ever see? Has lost to King Mo? He was real.

2559
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: After I was watching, I tweeted that one live I remember,

2560
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 1: and King Mo actually kind of made fun of him

2561
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 1: when they were putting like the microphone in his face shots.

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01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 1: Kingo was great. He was like, they were like, walk

2563
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: us through the highlights. He's like, well, this is me

2564
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: stealing on him, This is me stealing on him again.

2565
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: King on the show?

2566
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: On what show?

2567
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: This show?

2568
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 1: We should get Kingo on the show.

2569
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 2: He likes us like great, mind. Yeah, I used to

2570
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 2: do a pod with him.

2571
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Loved it.

2572
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 2: By the way, I know you've been checking me out,

2573
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 2: Luke in this brand new shirt.

2574
01:51:58,600 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 6: I know it.

2575
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh, so we got one more.

2576
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 1: We got to we gotta move through.

2577
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 2: We're not gonna be late. We're gonna be fine, all right,

2578
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 2: lowercase at lower case three. Out of the rest of

2579
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 2: the bantamweight division top ten, how many is O'Malley clearly

2580
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 2: better than? And if he were to move up to feather,

2581
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 2: how many top top ten guys do you think he's

2582
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 2: comfortably better than now?

2583
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's probably better than at least

2584
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 1: half the top ten at one five.

2585
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 2: But it's a killer division and maybe a matchup dependent.

2586
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 2: Will he recapture the confidence momentum magic he had at

2587
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 2: that peak of his career going from Jon to Sterling.

2588
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, But is he still better than the

2589
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 2: back end of the top ten, Yes, and can win

2590
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 2: in both divisions potentially. Yeses, I think he'll be fine

2591
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 2: at featherweight.

2592
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine in featherweight too, Yeah, I think.

2593
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean again, I do think he has to bulk

2594
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:49,560
Speaker 1: up though, like, really bulk up if he goes to

2595
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: forty five. Okay, really add some muscle, all right, but

2596
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: you can do it all right?

2597
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 2: Back to you admiring me in this uh yeah, in

2598
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 2: this fit, Luke get ready. MK fans to rep the

2599
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:03,800
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2600
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Speaker 2: by pure UFC adrenaline and the DraftKings lifestyle. We've got hoodies,

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01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 2: long sleeves, men's and women's teas, and a knockout hat

2603
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 2: to top it off. Right now, you're catching me and

2604
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 2: the long sleeve black T shirt. Fantastic fit. Personally, I'm

2605
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 2: loving the way it looks just as much as I

2606
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 2: love the way it feels. It's a must have and

2607
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 2: whether your cage side or coutside, the collection brings the heat.

2608
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 2: Check it out right now at the Draft Kings shop

2609
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: that shop DraftKings.

2610
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cat shouts the DraftKings.

2611
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the great fit by the way, love

2612
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 2: the way it makes me feel. All right, I scoured

2613
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 2: the globe on Sunday highs and lows, good and bad.

2614
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 2: Let's see if Lucas can either laugh or get really

2615
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 2: turned off by my humor. This one's called BC's feces.

2616
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 2: Indeed we drink to that. Yeah, let's go uf C

2617
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 2: three sixteen in Newark, Baby, Luke, is there anything better

2618
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 2: than Morob and Kayla celebrating bantam white title wins together?

2619
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 6: Gun?

2620
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 14: I was gonna say, yeah, Georgiz, she loves the gloves.

2621
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 2: George Well looke, speaking of Kayla, who you got against

2622
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 2: her and Mandy in this upcoming super fight?

2623
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, this is you know he's not not the nicest.

2624
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 2: The internet provided that.

2625
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

2626
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

2627
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: Back to Morob.

2628
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 2: Mike Bone put this video out on the bus back

2629
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 2: to the hotel in Newark. They stopped it on the

2630
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 2: corner that were Georgian fans celebrating, and Morob came out

2631
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 2: to give love again break.

2632
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: Dangerous to spend this much time outside Newark without a

2633
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: bullet proof vest of the bulletproof car.

2634
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 2: Did he just catch the hive?

2635
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 4: Right?

2636
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 2: No shout out to these great fans like it came

2637
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 2: out to support him. Also, which outfit would you least

2638
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 2: rather wear? The one Morob has or the one Mike

2639
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 2: Tyson has?

2640
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, I'd rather have Morobs. Morobs has got like

2641
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 1: real cultural value.

2642
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 2: So you would do the show in the left over

2643
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 2: the right outfit?

2644
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: I would if forced.

2645
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's my T shirt that I'm supposed to wear?

2646
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 2: By the way for losing that jet.

2647
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 1: So it's a funny thing you mentioned that there's I

2648
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 1: bought them in one order. One is arriving today and

2649
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know when the other one is arriving.

2650
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 1: But don't you worry. You're gonna get a choice, motherfucker.

2651
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a chill.

2652
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 2: After the third song or what? Oh wait, we got

2653
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 2: to pay off our debts here. Okay, finally from three sixteen,

2654
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 2: here's that Viking guy Andreas Gustavsen I saw.

2655
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 3: On social media before this fight, you said you were

2656
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 3: going to go quote unquote full retard.

2657
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 2: Do you feel you were successful in your Debutrea one sort,

2658
01:55:58,040 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 2: thank you.

2659
01:55:59,120 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 4: You're welcome you.

2660
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always gonna break.

2661
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

2662
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 4: The UF.

2663
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 1: He's such an enlightened sport.

2664
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to this pick. The fans were loving a

2665
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 2: bron here in the pregame preview set. Doesn't he look

2666
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 2: like Building seven compared to us?

2667
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: Which tower are you the second one?

2668
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 2: Obviously? Look, Cook, I had much more staying power. You

2669
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 2: folded very quickly. All right, before we get canceled. It's

2670
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 2: time to get in that ass, Luke, here's the quote

2671
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 2: of the week. Here's Jay Williams.

2672
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: Lou dort is gonna be in his ass. He's gonna

2673
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: be in.

2674
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 2: Him No, didty on that one? Speaking of in that ass,

2675
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 2: check out this British Halal Cook on his smoke break.

2676
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 2: Watch the hand. Place me here that's his left hand.

2677
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, maybe maybe he'll wash.

2678
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 2: Hands after the sig right before he serves again. But

2679
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 2: what if you're like, yo, bro, what up? Give me

2680
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 2: give me some pounds?

2681
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2682
01:56:56,720 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 2: Very in fact, here comes another person. Okay, let's that's

2683
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 2: the same hand, Luke.

2684
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, oh gosh.

2685
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 2: One more time in that ass. But this is a

2686
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 2: car cone related Okay, that's a bulls eye.

2687
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: Look bullseye right again?

2688
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 2: Right, yes, watch again, watch the bottom cone.

2689
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 1: I was watching the fucking I was watching the car crash.

2690
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's just awesome. All right, let's go to the

2691
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Major League baseball field. Luke, You ever you ever sneak

2692
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 2: a sip off your dad's beer when you're what's this kid?

2693
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 2: He thinks no one's watching, but all of America's watching.

2694
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, a little sip, A little sip.

2695
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 4: Of that natty.

2696
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm that'll cost you twenty three dollars. And

2697
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 2: then he goes back to it again a second time.

2698
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that kid is class president as far as

2699
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm concerned.

2700
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Luke, nobody loves Mexican culture more

2701
01:57:52,560 --> 01:58:03,120
Speaker 2: than me. Let's watch this beautiful music celebration is alright? Well,

2702
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 2: they just told him you didn't like this the music.

2703
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if we need to watch

2704
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 1: mass death on this show.

2705
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 2: Look, you know I love when combat sports stars are

2706
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 2: in the wild. Here's Habib. Not only did he blowf

2707
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 2: Kate Scott's handshake for cultural reasons, Look at him, Look

2708
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 2: at his work with the touch with them all.

2709
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta say, got a little smoothness

2710
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 1: to him.

2711
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Habib right there, Uh, Luke, here's

2712
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 2: Chewee Wi's catching up with Pollyann Vienna. Okay, so right

2713
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 2: back to the kitchen.

2714
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 1: Look there we go.

2715
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 2: That's uh progressive mm A for you. But shout out

2716
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 2: to Chew.

2717
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 1: We's wow, there's an audience for that. I mean, people

2718
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: get mad. People get mad when you say that. The

2719
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 1: reputation that MMA has now is it's a sport for

2720
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 1: dumb men.

2721
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: But it seems toxic masculine, seems.

2722
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: It seems like that reputation is very well deserved.

2723
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 2: Mike Vick was in Norfolk, as we mentioned. Watch this

2724
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:06,839
Speaker 2: uh snattern he throws to Bud Crawford here split wide.

2725
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 1: Can throw the ball insane? Ever seen.

2726
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 2: Stick out?

2727
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2728
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say defensive passing affarence.

2729
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 16: There.

2730
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 2: Look we got another fighter in the wild. Here is

2731
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 2: Armando Ray sendies. You know, I love these homecomings. Back

2732
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 2: in the airport in Mexico after defeating Cable client one time,

2733
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 2: if they could do this for us, Oh they did

2734
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 2: it in London like this.

2735
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 16: Yeah.

2736
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a moment in time, not.

2737
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 5: The airplay by that we got that well he told

2738
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 5: us to get the fuck out.

2739
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah hello Toro. Dude, right, he's kind of like you

2740
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 1: know what, he earned it?

2741
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 11: He did.

2742
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 1: He can't say he didn't earn it. He earned it.

2743
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 16: Did.

2744
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 2: One more fighter in the wild. This is Joe pifer Luke,

2745
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 2: who's very sensitive.

2746
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 3: Joe, one of the biggest comebacks in sports is your hairline.

2747
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 1: Do A lot of fighters ask you about it because

2748
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: it turned out really well. I don't know if that's

2749
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 1: an insult or not. No, no, it was a comprom

2750
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 1: Here you go, I'm gonna remember your motherfucking face now,

2751
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: all right. I mean this is one of the perfect

2752
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 1: times to be like lighting up Francis.

2753
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 2: Motherfucker. This is sack Town.

2754
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 4: I thought this was.

2755
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 1: Sacramento, California. I didn't know this was a bitch fucking Stein. Motherfucker.

2756
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 2: This is sacked Town.

2757
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 1: Oh take that dr Yeah, that g Allen eating his species.

2758
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 2: That look, she's back the weird cat lady, only this

2759
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 2: time she's up in the gutter with Sa Wool from Louisville.

2760
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't use the word horror light.

2761
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 2: I mean everything is cake. Look everything.

2762
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:48,440
Speaker 1: I had someone asking me my chat It's like, why

2763
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 1: don't you like this lady? I'm like, look at this freak,

2764
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: the faces she make. Oh yeah, just eat the knife.

2765
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:56,360
Speaker 1: You eat the knife, dude, this is what your bad

2766
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 1: dreams look like.

2767
02:00:57,480 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 2: Oh, she would stab you and then eat you slice spicy.

2768
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is this is like who wants

2769
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 1: a fever dream in real life? I mean that kind

2770
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: of turns me out.

2771
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,840
Speaker 2: Look to be fair, but hey, here's your uh, here's

2772
02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:09,080
Speaker 2: your uh, your flag.

2773
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 1: Of the week certified torts a pounder.

2774
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, shame on that guy. All right, I'm done

2775
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 2: with that. I'm done with that. Hey, how about a

2776
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 2: little elder abuse? All right? You got to watch these

2777
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:21,800
Speaker 2: revolving doors sometimes like they're wild, right, they can throw

2778
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 2: your uh yeah they can. Okay, lady to look both ways, please.

2779
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 1: Please, yeah, just walk out there. Yeah yeah, okay, that's

2780
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 1: a yeah, that was That's the kind of lady that

2781
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 1: asked me to help her with her bag and then

2782
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Speaker 1: the bag will be ten thousand pounds and it's like,

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Speaker 1: what was your plan to get this from point A

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02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 1: to point B other than by asking me to shirp

2785
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 1: your ship for you? I don't know how you do that?

2786
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 2: Look you know amateur MMA stud Christian dagherro my hero

2787
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:52,120
Speaker 2: MK super fan, the guy in the world, dude, he

2788
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 2: had a Multai fight over the weekend. He's with the

2789
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 2: blue gloves on the right.

2790
02:01:55,440 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 9: Wait wait, okay, oh shit.

2791
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:04,600
Speaker 2: Girro, dude, this guy's the best.

2792
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 1: That's savvas him.

2793
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 2: He has twice put Morning Combat right on the dick

2794
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 2: right when he won those belongs. Yeah, love me some

2795
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 2: Christian Guerrero of California fame. There's his coaches.

2796
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 1: By by the way. The guy on the left I

2797
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 1: believe is my old training partner, Sonny.

2798
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 2: Are you serious?

2799
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I trained with Sunny for many, many years. Shouts

2800
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:23,839
Speaker 1: to Sony that I can't. I don't have my glasses,

2801
02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:25,800
Speaker 1: so I could be just being racist. I can't quite tell,

2802
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 1: but I believe that's a dude. I know the guy

2803
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 1: on the left. I know him super super super well.

2804
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 2: All right, shout out to Christian Guerro. We gotta get

2805
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 2: him on the show and talk real mma with that fella.

2806
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing. If Christian Guero trains with my old training partner.

2807
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 2: That's like that makes us Kevin Bacon, Yeah, like we're

2808
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:42,240
Speaker 2: you guys.

2809
02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 16: Now.

2810
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 2: Look you ever hear about ratatatah.

2811
02:02:53,360 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 1: Ah? Okay, where's the dry By shooter when you need one?

2812
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:05,360
Speaker 2: Luke check out the most chill man on earth, even

2813
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 2: through a car.

2814
02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 1: Accident, yo yo, Oh wow, he's like that happens weekly. Dude.

2815
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 1: If they spun that motherfucker three sixty like a top,

2816
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 1: that was great.

2817
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 2: Look do you know this new heck everybody's doing on

2818
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 2: the airplane to get extra snacks?

2819
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 6: No excuse me?

2820
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 4: Can I have one extra snack?

2821
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 6: My apologies, it's one per person.

2822
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 17: She doesn't know.

2823
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 4: I know this heck, I have a bomb.

2824
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 2: All right.

2825
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: It feels like you got to threaten him to get

2826
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 1: extra things.

2827
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 2: Look, were you a big fan of Corn in the nineties.

2828
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: Like the band? Yeah, Like I'm okay, but.

2829
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 2: Corn, you gonna watch that was so good?

2830
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that one got me that that was a good one.

2831
02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 2: That was Look check out this weird guy. Look with

2832
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 2: the double mentos, youg got.

2833
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 5: Them that are.

2834
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:10,600
Speaker 1: For a certain kind of audience.

2835
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 2: Are we are skater died? More like skater Glory? Luke

2836
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 2: checked this outshow that would have gold at the X

2837
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 2: Games back of the old days? Yeah, yeah, uh. You

2838
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 2: know this fella, mister Methane that we play on the

2839
02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 2: show sometimes Big Star Wars guy.

2840
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Maybe mister Methane.

2841
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 4: That's just a.

2842
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 2: Review of the Phantom Metas.

2843
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 1: I think I'll have an I think some of I

2844
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 1: think some of y'all need friends.

2845
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 2: That's the ship of the week, Lucas hope.

2846
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: Some of you' all need friends.

2847
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 6: Come on.

2848
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 2: That's like a B plus this week.

2849
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 1: That's a B. That's a bee. The corn one got me.

2850
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:30,600
Speaker 2: Okay, that was really good. That's all the time we got.

2851
02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 2: We have trains to catch. No named Osborne though. Tip

2852
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 2: your vendors on the way out. Take care of yourselves.

2853
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 2: Follow like Merch, Merch, merch, Morningcombat dot Shop. We're back

2854
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 2: in a reminder. This gets split three ways. We get

2855
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 2: the money Long Island, Luke LT and b C.

2856
02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 1: So it's going directly and we only have just a

2857
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 1: handful of posters left that are signed. This is your chance.

2858
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:53,000
Speaker 1: They're going to go away. We're not going to do

2859
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:54,400
Speaker 1: it for I mean, we'll do it again at some point,

2860
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:57,000
Speaker 1: but not anytime soon. If you want it, now's the time.

2861
02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for supporting us. It's the best

2862
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 2: way to support us. You get to wear it, we

2863
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 2: get to uh, we get to keep it apparently, so

2864
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Follow the show like subscribe and

2865
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 2: all that good stuff. We will be back this Friday,

2866
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 2: eleven a m Eastern. What do we have this weekend.

2867
02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 1: Uh Buckley Atlanta.

2868
02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 2: Is there boxing this weekend? I think it's kind of slow.

2869
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 2: Am I forgetting something? Isn't Richardson Hitchins against George Cambosis

2870
02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 2: for the this weekend?

2871
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:20,400
Speaker 3: Is it?

2872
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:21,080
Speaker 1: In Australia?

2873
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 5: PFL is back too.

2874
02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: We got a PFL is back, by the way. That

2875
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:29,120
Speaker 1: fight Jason Jackson Jean Sick fight, Sick Fight.

2876
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 2: No hitch The Hitchins fight is at the MSG Theater

2877
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:34,640
Speaker 2: the sight of Cambosis versus Tao, and Cambosis told me

2878
02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 2: if he beats Uh, if he wins the title from Hitchens,

2879
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:41,080
Speaker 2: he's going to try to rematch Tao. And allright, all right,

2880
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 2: that's all we got on BC. That's LT shout out

2881
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 2: to Ken and the Deer in the back. Yeah, I

2882
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:46,440
Speaker 2: got Ken's the best.

2883
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 1: Dan was back there laughing his ass off at the

2884
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:49,600
Speaker 1: farting star.

2885
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah he gets it, he gets it. One morning Combat,

2886
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:54,920
Speaker 2: we were so happy to have you take care We

2887
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:55,200
Speaker 2: out