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Speaker 1: Good morning, and there you seem very happy today. Now
Speaker 1: you're today is Friday, Friday. How are you guys doing.
Speaker 1: I'm great, good Nick, Oh my god, here we go,
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go. Okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's the episode thirty one. Okay, thank you for that. There,
Speaker 1: episode thirty one. You don't get to know that. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: this episode Friday Friday. What twenty four you posted? So
Speaker 1: it's probably like twenty four then since you've been really yeah,
Speaker 1: you've probably seven times this offseason. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: fortunately we figured out, yeah, we got it down the
Speaker 1: three amagas. Okay, so since last time we had the show,
Speaker 1: we talked about our concerns about Frederick and Dave. You
Speaker 1: had an instinct of it being maybe something that would
Speaker 1: be a little more important than what we thought, and
Speaker 1: since then it came out of that. Travis Frederick. He
Speaker 1: has a condition called, I don't know how you pronounce it,
Speaker 1: really gain Barre syndrome. Barr syndrome, which is basically your
Speaker 1: body attacking itself, the your immune system attacking your nervous system,
Speaker 1: which is something very you know, delicate and something that's
Speaker 1: it's no joke, and as of right now, there's no
Speaker 1: timetable for his return. So I wanted to discuss after
Speaker 1: you guys hearing this news, what were your first or
Speaker 1: initial thoughts on him and what's going to happen next.
Speaker 1: My initial thought, honestly was that maybe Antoine Woods isn't
Speaker 1: that good. And I don't mean that bad about him.
Speaker 1: It's just that he was beating Frederick to the point
Speaker 1: where we hadn't seen that. Um since he's been here,
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen Frederick get beat by that, especially a
Speaker 1: guy that was going to be hard to make the team.
Speaker 1: And nothing against Woods. It's just that Frederick's strength. You
Speaker 1: could you could tell that he wasn't the same And
Speaker 1: it makes more sense now from what we were seeing
Speaker 1: that he was getting beat a little bit more. Woods
Speaker 1: comes out. Yesterday's practice had had a nice practice, had
Speaker 1: a couple of good plays had won on Connor Williams
Speaker 1: was a good battle. So nothing against him, but Frederick.
Speaker 1: You could tell now why Frederick was struggling a little
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, Um, I'm not trying to sound sanctimonious,
Speaker 1: but my first thought was just for Travis. Honestly, when
Speaker 1: you like, I remember, you know, we've covered a lot
Speaker 1: of injuries. We've had a lot of guys be ruled
Speaker 1: out for the year, or you know, just have their
Speaker 1: season cut short before it started. Sean Lee comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Tony Romo obviously, but when you read the words autoimmune disease,
Speaker 1: it's just a different bag, you know. So it doesn't
Speaker 1: it sounds like they caught it early. It doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like it's going to affect his long term health outlook.
Speaker 1: I really hope it doesn't. He's a he's a good dude,
Speaker 1: he's a professional. He's got two little babies, his son Ali,
Speaker 1: wears glasses. He's adorable. He brings him out to training
Speaker 1: camp practices all the time. So first and foremost, just
Speaker 1: you know, forget football for a second. I just hope
Speaker 1: he's okay in the long run. And then you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know you have some time to sit and think
Speaker 1: on it, and then football kind of creeps into your mind, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? Is he have to go
Speaker 1: to IR? What's the timetable? All that type of stuff,
Speaker 1: which unfortunately we don't have a whole lot of answers
Speaker 1: for that right now. That's I think the cow Boys
Speaker 1: are still kind of in that processing and getting their
Speaker 1: information straight stage. So we'll see what happens here over
Speaker 1: the next week and a half or so. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it is hard to when there's
Speaker 1: something like that where you can't really determine how long
Speaker 1: you're gonna be out for how long that's gonna take.
Speaker 1: But so right now we've seen Joe Looney stepped in,
Speaker 1: and I was gonna ask you, Derek, are you feeling
Speaker 1: confident or comfortable enough with having Joe Looney takeover that
Speaker 1: role as a center? Yeah? And I actually when we
Speaker 1: talked about it on the last show, I said that
Speaker 1: of all the positions they're on the offensive line, particularly
Speaker 1: those where you got those three all pros, I felt
Speaker 1: the most okay about the idea of if I had
Speaker 1: to lose one of them for a significant amount of time.
Speaker 1: The center would be the one that I would choose,
Speaker 1: mainly because I think the drop off between him and
Speaker 1: the next closest guy, which is Joe Looney, is a
Speaker 1: lot less than than Martin or Tyrant and their next
Speaker 1: closest guy. I think the drop offs a lot less.
Speaker 1: I think Joe's a really good player. Here's the part
Speaker 1: that that does concern me a little bit is there's
Speaker 1: also the part of being a center that isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: in the block. It is in making the calls. It
Speaker 1: is in understanding what's happening and being kind of that
Speaker 1: central nervous system, being no pun intended for your offensive line.
Speaker 1: And that's the part that I don't know that that
Speaker 1: may take Joe a little bit to get used to.
Speaker 1: That's not to say you can't. I'm just saying that's
Speaker 1: one other thing you have to consider here. And then
Speaker 1: the other part to that is we always talked about
Speaker 1: during training camp how Connor Williams as a rookie, your
Speaker 1: expectations of him was that he just needed to do,
Speaker 1: you know, just do your part because you got two
Speaker 1: all pros on either side of you. Now it's a
Speaker 1: little different. You gots Tyrants still there. But you don't
Speaker 1: have that center, who has that experience, who's making those calls,
Speaker 1: who can give you a little bit of extra understanding,
Speaker 1: you know during games like that part. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you lose a lot or a little bit,
Speaker 1: We'll have to see, but that's a part that does
Speaker 1: at least concern me a little bit. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're exactly right, and and and those are the questions.
Speaker 1: Loudy has not been a regular starter. So until you
Speaker 1: do it, I mean, yeah, we can all pull for
Speaker 1: him because he's a great guy. Jolly guy comes into
Speaker 1: the locker room and he says, you know what does
Speaker 1: he say? I'm just here so I don't get fined.
Speaker 1: You know, he's never had that many reporters around him before.
Speaker 1: He was sweating, you know, it was a little nervous.
Speaker 1: He's he's a guy. Anyone that has been here will
Speaker 1: pull for yea. But you know they all like you too.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean you could play safety. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't. I'm just saying that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're a good player because you're a nice guy. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's an unfortunate it's an unfortunate truth of the nfl U.
Speaker 1: Joe did talk about that a little bit yesterday though,
Speaker 1: just you know, he's been sitting next to Travis for
Speaker 1: three years now, he was talking. He sits next to
Speaker 1: him in meetings. He's been picking his brain, he's been
Speaker 1: preparing for this, you know, the whole time he's been here.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: I think he's ready for this. I'm not. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna make anybody forget about Travis Frederick, but
Speaker 1: I think he's up to this. Although, to be perfectly honest,
Speaker 1: that that's a wrinkle that I hadn't gotten to in
Speaker 1: my own brain was just how this might affect Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: So I you know, it's it's probably gonna hurt a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think they're gonna have you know, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna lose an All Pro and just keep clicking.
Speaker 1: And that's just not typically. You don't really see him
Speaker 1: as let's say, chess green type of back, right, more
Speaker 1: confidencing Joe Luney and what he's done so far, it
Speaker 1: will be better than that. And you've got an All
Speaker 1: Pro running back that matters. Um, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a disaster by any stretch. I think that
Speaker 1: you saw a difference in Luney with his strength this year.
Speaker 1: He before he seemed like he was kind of a
Speaker 1: good technique guy. Guy got in the way, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna get run over. This year he seemed like he
Speaker 1: was more wouldn't say a maller, but he showed more
Speaker 1: strength and throwing some guys around a little bit. Now
Speaker 1: that could say, you know, you could also say that
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a great defensive tackle playing in there, that
Speaker 1: that could be the issue. You know, yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: know who's going to be playing tackle. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: he was throwing Malite Collins around. No. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: have a point on Connor Williams if we can get
Speaker 1: to that really before you get to that real quick,
Speaker 1: and I just throwing one thing I want you guys
Speaker 1: to know. Also put a poll out on our fan Pulse,
Speaker 1: so if you're able to watch live here on our
Speaker 1: mobile app, you'll see the question is are you worried
Speaker 1: about the offensive now offensive line now without Travis Frederick.
Speaker 1: I want to see what fans have to think about
Speaker 1: that that particular question. So you know, you said the
Speaker 1: concern about you know, now, Connor doesn't have those all
Speaker 1: pros on either side at least to start the season,
Speaker 1: and that's definitely a factor. But everyone knows where I
Speaker 1: stand on the Earl trade, and that didn't happen at
Speaker 1: the draft, and it had a chance there in the
Speaker 1: second round. I think the Cowboys absolutely made the right
Speaker 1: call there because of who was available. I think Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is going to be an outstanding player. You can
Speaker 1: tell he fits right into this line. He's got that mean,
Speaker 1: nasty streak to him. I think he is going to
Speaker 1: be a really good player. We forget he was a
Speaker 1: tackle playing guard. He's gonna get beat at times. He
Speaker 1: gets beat, but I think he's got what it takes.
Speaker 1: He got beat yesterday sort of and with Antoine Wood
Speaker 1: to put him on his back, and then they said
Speaker 1: let's do it again and it wasn't even close. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of thing you got to have as a tackle, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're not doing that again, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was. He's a feisty player and I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna fit in real well. Now, I wanted to
Speaker 1: quickly go over the whole old line and we have
Speaker 1: sack Martin coming off with it from an injury yesterday.
Speaker 1: He put on the pads and did some stuff off
Speaker 1: to the side. Not necessarily yet there yet, but he
Speaker 1: did say that he would be ready for the first
Speaker 1: game of the season, no question about it. Was Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, he's fine, very very certain. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we go with what he says. He has enough experience
Speaker 1: to know what he's talking about. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we saw, like all call Alan's kind of get a
Speaker 1: little scare of I guess someone stepped over his foot
Speaker 1: or something, or maybe he somebody one of those he
Speaker 1: kicked his ankle in a in a rep. He also
Speaker 1: said he's okay and all that, So I wanted to
Speaker 1: go over You got this old line that we've always
Speaker 1: been talking about, how strong is the strength of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Now certain things are starting to affect
Speaker 1: that strength and as far as injury. Looking at it
Speaker 1: overall and going off to start this season, how confident
Speaker 1: are you with what the old line right now can
Speaker 1: bring you? Don't I mean no offense? You left out
Speaker 1: a pretty big thing there with Marcus Martin going to injured. Yeah,
Speaker 1: signed him and to help them deal with this, and
Speaker 1: he's not here now, so they've taken some Hey, I
Speaker 1: mean even the news was great with Zach and I
Speaker 1: think Lyle's fine and and Cam Fleming is still here
Speaker 1: and doing his thing. But that's the NFL. It's tough, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like I said, we don't know
Speaker 1: the timetable for Travis, but it's hard to imagine he's
Speaker 1: going to play a role in the near near future. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's you just you got a role with it,
Speaker 1: which I think credit to them for bringing Joe back,
Speaker 1: and I know he's gone now, but they tried to
Speaker 1: address that with Marcus Martin. Um, so they were ready
Speaker 1: for it. Unfortunately, their interiors sort of a mess right
Speaker 1: now with what's going on with Travis. But I think
Speaker 1: they're better suited to deal with this than they were
Speaker 1: with what happened to Tyran last year. So yeah, Condean
Speaker 1: Edwards has done a pretty nice job. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a broken hand, he'll be fine singing at people.
Speaker 1: Um that was fun. Yeah, it was a good little battle. Uh,
Speaker 1: he probably saw the fight and um de Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: coming in. Let's say again. I mean, these guys have
Speaker 1: some nice buddies around them. I mean, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: first with the fight of Travis and stat came in
Speaker 1: then said buddies, right, yeah, I thought I thought you
Speaker 1: said they had nice bodies. Yeah, sorry buddies, I got it,
Speaker 1: but it is anyways, I'm just I wanted to point out,
Speaker 1: like DeMarcus just yeah, DeMarcus did like the street Fighter, Like,
Speaker 1: does DeMarcus know that he's on a one year seventeen,
Speaker 1: Like he he could have broken his hand, like he
Speaker 1: ran across the fire. It was known as the Superman punched. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went full Hull Hogan and I'm like, they do.
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't do that to a guy wearing a helmet.
Speaker 1: Idea the one that I didn't get with Taco, like
Speaker 1: he kind of just coming off to the side, just
Speaker 1: swinging at people, like break it up, you know, try
Speaker 1: to try to break it up at this point, but hey,
Speaker 1: it's it happens. Um Kadim has done a nice job.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Lyle getting kicked on, you know whatever, limping off.
Speaker 1: Lyle showed last year just how tough he is. He
Speaker 1: didn't miss any snaps neither. Along with Frederick so um In,
Speaker 1: Martins never missed a game Tyron. You know, he's missed
Speaker 1: a couple here lately, but him, he's been pretty pretty
Speaker 1: tough as well. So I think these guys are going
Speaker 1: to be fine for the most parts. Gonna take something
Speaker 1: real serious, like like we've seen with Travis to connect
Speaker 1: him out. So then I have this other question for you.
Speaker 1: We've seen last year. Okay, you got Tyren Smith who
Speaker 1: would have to take certain rest days because of his
Speaker 1: injury history or back injury. Then we had Lil Callins.
Speaker 1: I believe he took a few rest days last year
Speaker 1: as well. Now, when you start talking about certain guys
Speaker 1: as far as Sack Martin and maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: well again, Travis is still pending. But when you start
Speaker 1: talking about these guys that are needing to take those
Speaker 1: kind of rest days and be more careful throughout the season,
Speaker 1: what I mean, where does that leave Yad right now?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you if your question is,
Speaker 1: are you worried about the fact that you know what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do when those guys have to take rest days,
Speaker 1: I mean they'll figure that part out. I'm not so
Speaker 1: concerned with injuries other than the possible of Tyrant still
Speaker 1: and the reason why I say that is because anytime
Speaker 1: you start having back and neck issues, then to me,
Speaker 1: I was just kind of keep an eye, a cautious
Speaker 1: eye on that. That doesn't mean that I've heard anything
Speaker 1: or see anything that suggests it's still bothering him. It's
Speaker 1: just it was like the same thing with Tony Romo
Speaker 1: when he started having back issues. Then from that moment forward,
Speaker 1: it just was like, all right, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: you just kind of keep an eye on it. So
Speaker 1: I think from that standpoint, I keep a cautious and
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He wasn't right because at that point, I
Speaker 1: will just keep an eye on Tyring just from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about the rest of that line
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of injuries or guys getting vet days
Speaker 1: or anything like that. You gotta take a vet day care. Like,
Speaker 1: as long as you're ready to play on going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as long as you're ready to play on Sunday and
Speaker 1: they can play at a high level on Sundays, that's
Speaker 1: all it really matters. And quite frankly, going back to
Speaker 1: your original question, like I look at this offensive line,
Speaker 1: I think there's still an embarrassment of riches on that
Speaker 1: offensive line. How many offensive lines in the NFL have
Speaker 1: two All Pro players. Let's just take Travis out of
Speaker 1: the mix for a while. They have two All Pro players.
Speaker 1: They have another player that would have been a first
Speaker 1: round pick, but four the issue that came up that
Speaker 1: dropped him all the way to seventh round. I think
Speaker 1: there was no doubt he definitely is a first I'm
Speaker 1: sorry undrafted. There's no doubt he would have been a
Speaker 1: first and definitely second pick, second round pick. Then you
Speaker 1: got another second round pick. I mean, you've got a
Speaker 1: ton of talent on this offensive line even without Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick and so I look at that and that still
Speaker 1: puts me. I still think this is the strength of
Speaker 1: this team. Everything they do this year will be a
Speaker 1: direct reflection of how well that unit plays. If that
Speaker 1: unit plays well, they'll probably be a good team. If
Speaker 1: that unit doesn't play well, they're probably not going to
Speaker 1: be a good team. And I don't think any of
Speaker 1: that change when Travis went out. Yeah, and we saw
Speaker 1: how they do when the line is struggling last year,
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and man, the time is different, Okay,
Speaker 1: nine thirty sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, are
Speaker 1: we almost done. We started nine thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: well we still have time to keep going. Then I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about certain guys that came back to practice.
Speaker 1: One of them Deonta Thompson, he's coming back from an
Speaker 1: injury from the Achilles, and then Tavon Austin. As far
Speaker 1: as Deonta, we know Tavon pretty much has a spot
Speaker 1: on the roster. That's a safe yeah for sure. Now
Speaker 1: as far as Deonta Thompson, a guy that we've talked about,
Speaker 1: his speed and all that, and the fact that he's
Speaker 1: coming in so late and has missed so much time.
Speaker 1: Where does that leave him in the wide receiver group?
Speaker 1: It depends on who you ask. And I asked him
Speaker 1: yesterday about you know, not playing. You know, I doubt
Speaker 1: he's going to play in this game. You mean, he
Speaker 1: don't just put him back in on a Thursday and
Speaker 1: then expect and play him on Sunday. I would be
Speaker 1: surprised there. But they need to see a little bit
Speaker 1: out of him. You know, Sanjay Lyle has coached him,
Speaker 1: so he kind of knows him a little bit more
Speaker 1: than anyone else. But I talked to Deonta and he
Speaker 1: said you know, I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'd like to play some, but it might just be
Speaker 1: where I don't play anything till the regular season, which yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, well, I mean where
Speaker 1: I mean at some point, because you know, the more
Speaker 1: practices in games he sits out, the more plays Lancelore
Speaker 1: is gonna make, and he just has he's just done it.
Speaker 1: And now he doesn't provide the same speed that Deontay doesn't.
Speaker 1: Dante said coming back yesterday, he said, I might be
Speaker 1: like a four three guy, but maybe tomorrow I'll be
Speaker 1: in the four twos again. So I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: letting it know. He's got some speed that you know.
Speaker 1: I feel a couple types of ways about that, because
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I mean, you just outlined it really well. Uh,
Speaker 1: Deontay hasn't practiced. Deontay is also a veteran with an
Speaker 1: established relationship with the receiver coach. That's why he's here
Speaker 1: in the first place. And he does something that nobody
Speaker 1: else on this receiver corps can do. He's just he's fast.
Speaker 1: He's to take the top off the defense guy that
Speaker 1: you've been asking for for seven years. I love Lance
Speaker 1: Leonora Death. I'm working on a story about him for
Speaker 1: one of them for the last preseason game. He's had
Speaker 1: a fantastic camp, But I just wonder if it's as
Speaker 1: obvious as he's playing well, so he's gonna make the team, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not always how it works. I know that's the cliche.
Speaker 1: That's not always how it works in the NFL. Does
Speaker 1: he do anything that you don't already have among your
Speaker 1: receiver corps? Good, that's a good question. He returns punts great,
Speaker 1: so to Cole Beasley and Tavon Austin. He can work
Speaker 1: in the slot and outside great, so can three other
Speaker 1: guys here. He's got good hands, great, so do a
Speaker 1: lot of these other guys. I'm not sure that his
Speaker 1: skill set is so unique that it requires him, honestly,
Speaker 1: whereas Deonte Thompson has a unique skill set that nobody
Speaker 1: else does. So I just wonder, And I don't know
Speaker 1: anything this is. I've just seen this type of thing
Speaker 1: play out before, and I don't know if it's as
Speaker 1: clear cut as Lance has had an amazing camp, so
Speaker 1: he's gonna make the team. Well, here's the question I
Speaker 1: have for you. When you say he's got that big
Speaker 1: speed that can take the top off defense? Absolutely right?
Speaker 1: Would you not put Tavon Austin in the same category
Speaker 1: that he has the big speed that can take the
Speaker 1: top off I mean not get that. I'm not I
Speaker 1: wasn't saying that. I'm just saying when you talk about speed,
Speaker 1: speed to speed, and so the question becomes if you're
Speaker 1: trying to think of it from the standpoint of what
Speaker 1: does he provide as you were saying with Lance, what
Speaker 1: does he provide that you don't already have? Well, speed,
Speaker 1: you kind of got speed already, you might, but I
Speaker 1: mean he's not crazy tall. I mean it's not like
Speaker 1: he's I don't he's megatron tall. I mean he's a
Speaker 1: He's a When you talk about like the shorter guys
Speaker 1: you got cold beastly, right, then Lance would be one
Speaker 1: of those, right. You can't, you know, just you got
Speaker 1: to balance it out too. You can't just throw a
Speaker 1: bunch of short Yeah, but they got they got them.
Speaker 1: If you're talk about size, though, you got Hearned, you
Speaker 1: got Williams. Those are both average sized receivers. I know
Speaker 1: that he has done it at this camp, but I
Speaker 1: don't trust and I don't think the Cowboys should trust
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin to line up at the numbers and and
Speaker 1: go downfield on a regular basis. That's not that would
Speaker 1: not be playing to his strange Are you going to
Speaker 1: do that a lot with Deonte Thompson? That's what he
Speaker 1: would be here for. Yeah, but are they going to
Speaker 1: be committed to using him enough to do that? Whether
Speaker 1: or not they do or don't. I mean, we're not
Speaker 1: talking about your number one receiver. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: sixth guy on the depth. Right, you're talking, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: also the kick returner, and that he's the main guy
Speaker 1: unless Duke Thomas keeps playing well and jumps into the spot.
Speaker 1: But but you know Deonte's the guy right now that
Speaker 1: that keithill Quinn says would be the kick returner. Does
Speaker 1: offensive line affect any of those things, because now you
Speaker 1: actually have an extra that goes hand in hand. Of
Speaker 1: course it does. The Cowboys might have to keep I
Speaker 1: mean they probably should keep nine offensive lineman. Now I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have said that a week ago. Right. Let me
Speaker 1: let me say this through about Thompson and Lenore. We
Speaker 1: all know most of these receivers or most of these
Speaker 1: players or somebody's pet cat and Thompson, I guess, is
Speaker 1: a guy that comes from, you know, with Sanjay Law.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna that's the pilot. And I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to suggest that it's like these two enemy camps, you know, like,
Speaker 1: but Deontay Thompson is here because he's Sanjay Law's guy,
Speaker 1: Lance Leonor's, Dak Prescott's guy. I mean also fact he
Speaker 1: was gonna win the quarterback with the Severs coach. That's fair. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say it was was Deontay
Speaker 1: Thompson is here for Sanjay Law, but but not not
Speaker 1: daks guy, Lance Lenora's Will mcclay's guy. Will McClay brought
Speaker 1: him in and when nobody knew who he was and
Speaker 1: and has still you know, stood by him, especially when
Speaker 1: he was struggling with all those punt returns and not
Speaker 1: looking good there, kept with them, kept with him, ended
Speaker 1: up on the team. Now he's had a great offseason,
Speaker 1: he's had a great camp. I think Will McClay holds
Speaker 1: a little bit of weight in the room too. So
Speaker 1: I would just be shocked with a guy that's had
Speaker 1: as good a camp as he had, and pretty good
Speaker 1: preseason as well, that he ends up out for a
Speaker 1: guy that's been hurt most of that time, that they
Speaker 1: don't really know what they're gonna get from. And let's
Speaker 1: be honest, as fast as he is, he wasn't lighting
Speaker 1: the world on fire and buffalo, so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: he's coming in. You're getting this veteran that's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's definitely got to make our team. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was a he was I mean, he was just he
Speaker 1: was an Okay, where would you where would you put
Speaker 1: Lance on the wide receiver? Desp? Okay, let's stop it
Speaker 1: right there real quick. Let's say, mom, let's take our
Speaker 1: first break, and when we come back, we'll steal. We'll
Speaker 1: keep talking about the wide receivers, Who makes the cut,
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Speaker 1: should okay, like oh no, oh no. Before we went
Speaker 1: to break, we were talking about Tavon Austin Beyondta Thompson,
Speaker 1: Lance Lenore, you were gonna make a point, Dave, who
Speaker 1: thank you? And right back where I needed to be.
Speaker 1: Where would you rank Lanceloor on this dep chart right now?
Speaker 1: He's at the bottom of the guys that could possibly
Speaker 1: make it. No, I mean if you were gonna just
Speaker 1: say he's on the team, like, put him on the
Speaker 1: fifty three, where would he be? That means if you
Speaker 1: start at the top, Yeah, who's one, give me your
Speaker 1: depth charts? The bottom guy he's he's after Ye, he's
Speaker 1: the bottom. He's your bottom guy. So it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: unrealistic to think that he doesn't make the team. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. And I wasn't. I wasn't trying to. Like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally okay with the idea that they could,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, get to a point where they say
Speaker 1: he doesn't make the team. I'm just saying if he
Speaker 1: if he doesn't make the team in favor of Deontay Thompson,
Speaker 1: then my expectation is that means you're gonna use him.
Speaker 1: Because they've had a fast guy on this team for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years and they didn't use him
Speaker 1: in my opinion, like um no, no, Bryce, and they
Speaker 1: didn't use him enough. In my opinion, I think that
Speaker 1: they could have gotten way more out of him than
Speaker 1: they did. So if you're gonna keep Deontay Thompson and
Speaker 1: use him like you use Bryce, to me, that's kind
Speaker 1: of a waste. I actually think that is a perfect
Speaker 1: corollary because as the fifth or sixth receiver on this team,
Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson could catch something like twenty balls and four
Speaker 1: of them would be touchdowns because they would probably be
Speaker 1: long gainers like Bryce and long downfield throws. And that's
Speaker 1: not what the Cowboys want to do. That's not what
Speaker 1: Dak does well. But he brings that element right and
Speaker 1: I just I'm not saying anything for sure, but I
Speaker 1: don't think that's done and I don't necessarily think that
Speaker 1: that's going to be decided by what you put on
Speaker 1: tape during the preseason. And that's just that's how it
Speaker 1: works sometimes. Well, I mean, the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: if we're talking about that kind of guy, if we're
Speaker 1: talking about the guy at the bottom of the depth
Speaker 1: chart at the wide receiver position, he'd better be able
Speaker 1: to play special teams. So really that's where the conversation
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what I was about to say, other
Speaker 1: than yes, you've got returners, but I mean running down
Speaker 1: on punts and kickoffs. If you keep Thompson, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you have six, all of your six players,
Speaker 1: I don't think any of them are going to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if Lenor would do that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: now know what Brown would. And that's and he's really
Speaker 1: the guy more than anybody else. He's missed most of camp.
Speaker 1: But I actually think if they're gonna make a case
Speaker 1: for somebody making it, that's the guy. Thompson gives you speed,
Speaker 1: Brown gives you sighs, and Lenora gives you I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything everything else. Yea, and God that
Speaker 1: keeps making plays. I mean, that's what's so. I will
Speaker 1: say I would not be surprised to see Thompson make
Speaker 1: this team despite really going on the shelf two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: It would be hard for me to see them putting
Speaker 1: a second year player who hasn't had a training camp
Speaker 1: on this team. And and I want Noah Brown to
Speaker 1: make this team. He's been my pet cat forever. But
Speaker 1: I just don't know how that makes sense. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but again, that's how you argued with Deonte, but he
Speaker 1: argued he he's special skill sets. Yonte has been in
Speaker 1: the league for a decent bit of time, though, But
Speaker 1: this guy has been here and they love him here.
Speaker 1: We saw in his first year he was out there
Speaker 1: quite a bit, you know, blocking, and he wasn't catching
Speaker 1: a lot of passes, but they used him quite a
Speaker 1: bit relatively speaking, like for for a guy that was
Speaker 1: that young. He's gotten a lot of opportunities on the field.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're trying to stash him Noah, Now
Speaker 1: you can't. Lance Lenore has done too much to stats
Speaker 1: and everybody knows. I just remember this, he played that
Speaker 1: last game against Philadelphia last year. I think he recovered
Speaker 1: a fumble or something on um covering a punt or
Speaker 1: down to punt down and inside the five he did something. Um.
Speaker 1: I know that you guys weren't paying attention to that game, really,
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't six something. It was one of
Speaker 1: the worst afternoons ever? Was that game? Five? Nothing? Yes? Nothing?
Speaker 1: I mean at least that was preseason six nothing in
Speaker 1: a regular season game, and it was eighteen degrees. That
Speaker 1: was horrible. It was New Year's Okay, So we got
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, uh, Terrence Williams, Tavon Austin, Elly, Hearns, Michael
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. Then who who would you pick for those?
Speaker 1: Would you keep two? One? Zero? Seven? It could be zero,
Speaker 1: It could could be it could be, but I doubt it.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be six. It would be your six.
Speaker 1: I don't. I really cannot answer that because if you're
Speaker 1: just going based on what I've seen, I would say
Speaker 1: Lance Lenore. But I really don't think you can rule
Speaker 1: out Deontay. If you had to pick based upon and
Speaker 1: you do this a lot, if you had to pick
Speaker 1: based upon what you think they're gonna do, who would
Speaker 1: you think that six would betak'st Tomas Derek. I think
Speaker 1: it's Noah Brown and you would get just one extra. Actually,
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think this might be a
Speaker 1: position I go short with five, especially if if, like
Speaker 1: Nick said, maybe they can get I don't know if
Speaker 1: they can, but if they could get into a Brown
Speaker 1: to the practice squad, then to me, that's that's a win.
Speaker 1: You keep five, Yeah, because you're gonna have to go
Speaker 1: along with some other positions. I mean, I've been thinking
Speaker 1: six for a long time. I even I once tried
Speaker 1: to make a case for seven, but probably need an
Speaker 1: extra offensive lineman. You might have to go heavy at quarterback, Rico.
Speaker 1: You might have to go a little bit long there
Speaker 1: because I think there's a lot of areas where you
Speaker 1: want to go long. Receiver might not be one of them. Yes,
Speaker 1: I need to factor in the game day forty six
Speaker 1: and now, because you don't have that versatile backup like
Speaker 1: you have and Joe Looney. See Looney was a backup
Speaker 1: to three spots. So now you're probably gonna have a
Speaker 1: backup center and a backup guard. Well, so did hear
Speaker 1: what Garrett said yesterday about that about what trap about um,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, but playing, Yeah, that they he'll he'll be
Speaker 1: like he's a guy that they say. I have some versatility.
Speaker 1: Certainly can can do some snapping, and he can he
Speaker 1: can snap the ball. I don't know if that's just
Speaker 1: him talking, but no, he can do all those things
Speaker 1: we've seen it. I just don't think they want to
Speaker 1: do that unless it's like a in game break glass,
Speaker 1: because it's that bad of an emergency type of thing.
Speaker 1: I think, I think you gotta have eight linemen, So
Speaker 1: you think you think not including him, you need a
Speaker 1: guy that's like sent a backup center. And is he
Speaker 1: on this team. I don't think so. I think there is.
Speaker 1: I think that there's gonna be another offensive lineman on
Speaker 1: this team who's not here right now. So I just
Speaker 1: think if Lance Lenoir was the sixth receiver, I think
Speaker 1: he'd be inactive. Yeah, I don't think. I think if
Speaker 1: you keep Thompson, I think you keep him for reasons
Speaker 1: to make him active. So and Noah Brown probably would
Speaker 1: be inactive. Maybe start Michael Gallup has been good enough
Speaker 1: that maybe you don't need the sixth guy. I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that. Um it's possible. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They catch he made yesterday over Cheeto that was you know,
Speaker 1: Rico's one hand handed catch in Oxnart was great. That
Speaker 1: was one of the best catches I've seen in all
Speaker 1: of camp. I mean, it was unbelievable. It was it was.
Speaker 1: It was a blitz and Dak got rid of it.
Speaker 1: And you know, Cheeto did a nice job. He was
Speaker 1: he was with this guy, but you know, Gott found
Speaker 1: the ball and just went over him and made a
Speaker 1: really nice play on the ball. It was. It was
Speaker 1: a good one. I was pissed because if we had
Speaker 1: been in Oxnard, I would have gotten a video of
Speaker 1: it and would have been on Sports Center and all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. You and John was showed out.
Speaker 1: Are like, you don't know what to do with your life. No,
Speaker 1: it sucks like watching practice without taking videos boring, honestly,
Speaker 1: So we all like sit at home in the evening
Speaker 1: to y'all actually like here videos like, oh look at
Speaker 1: this one. I got every single every single time I'll
Speaker 1: treat you this one. Every single time I have taken
Speaker 1: a video of something at practice, he's gotten a better
Speaker 1: angle than me, like, and he's the better of the two,
Speaker 1: he's better than me, So maybe I see if we
Speaker 1: can make a trade. Yeah, go for it, go for it.
Speaker 1: It probably makes more money, so I'll trade. Don't go
Speaker 1: with that, all right? So the guy Always are gonna
Speaker 1: play their third preseason game this Sunday at at and
Speaker 1: T Stadium against ARISONA Cardinals. Now I want to go
Speaker 1: around the room and I want everyone to give me
Speaker 1: a different answer. Don't just a different answer from each.
Speaker 1: I want to see who would be the guy who
Speaker 1: you are wanting to see the most out of? And
Speaker 1: we're getting near the end where roster cut this accent man,
Speaker 1: dang it, roster cuts are out to be made. So
Speaker 1: who is a guy that you need to see more
Speaker 1: out of in this upcoming game? Is this a guy
Speaker 1: that is a potential cut that needs to make his
Speaker 1: way onto the team, or just any guy someone that
Speaker 1: you're in doubt, Oh, somebody I'm in doubt. Okay, you
Speaker 1: just need to see more. Is he gonna make the team?
Speaker 1: Is he not? Why can't you show me now? To justify?
Speaker 1: All right, a spot for you, I will say Antoine
Speaker 1: Woods because we were pretty we were pretty certain when
Speaker 1: we were going through our fifty three that well, not certain,
Speaker 1: but we felt like maybe there's a good chance he's
Speaker 1: gonna make the team. I think Nick had a great point.
Speaker 1: Now that we hear more about Frederick, it kind of
Speaker 1: changes your perspective on what he looked like in those
Speaker 1: one on one drills when he was beating Frederick, and
Speaker 1: and I just I kind of wonder now if when
Speaker 1: you start thinking about the whole defensive line, if he's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the guys that's actually gonna make it,
Speaker 1: because they've got a lot of guys at defensive tackle
Speaker 1: right now, in my opinion, that are kind of all
Speaker 1: at the same level. They're all kind of I kind
Speaker 1: of see a little something alike, but I don't really know.
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna have to have some good
Speaker 1: play here in these next two games in order to
Speaker 1: make the team. Did you get a chance to watch
Speaker 1: him go up against Connor yesterday? No, Nick was talking
Speaker 1: about I did not see that, though, Okay, I wanted
Speaker 1: to say, what was I wanted to ask, sorry, what
Speaker 1: was some of the comparisons there from why you saw
Speaker 1: there and versus the things we've been talking about him
Speaker 1: going up against Travis. It was one of those compete,
Speaker 1: you know, one on one drills wherever the whole team's watching.
Speaker 1: And in the first time, I think Connor got him
Speaker 1: pretty good. Second time would pretty much just overpowered him
Speaker 1: to get him down. Now Connor did kind of toss
Speaker 1: him over to the side, so he was Everyone was
Speaker 1: all excited for Antoine Woods with this pancake type of play.
Speaker 1: But you know, it would have been nice for the
Speaker 1: offense to actually you know, because he went out of
Speaker 1: the play and so he really didn't do anything. He
Speaker 1: did knock him on his back, which is what the
Speaker 1: drill is supposed to be. They came back and Connor said,
Speaker 1: you're not doing that again, and it was yeah. So
Speaker 1: but he he's got something, he's got something to him,
Speaker 1: and he's a he's a powerful player, and I think
Speaker 1: that I think he's a player you would want to
Speaker 1: keep on the team. It reminds me a little bit
Speaker 1: of that Davon Coleman who didn't last that long. Strong, young,
Speaker 1: quick off the ball. But let's see if you can
Speaker 1: continue to do it every single week, every practice, Let's see.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with those defensive tackles now,
Speaker 1: I mean neither, So they're all kind of just bunched
Speaker 1: in there and they can't they you know, Marinelli is
Speaker 1: clearly not happy with the rotation because he's mixed it
Speaker 1: around so much. I mean, okay, Malee Collins is going
Speaker 1: to make the team, but Woods has had moments, Brian
Speaker 1: Price has had moments. Daytone Jones is interesting because he's hurt.
Speaker 1: Now is he good enough to carry even if he's
Speaker 1: not healthy? Um, I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 1: And Ward's been up and down. Tyrone Crawford's playing tackle
Speaker 1: now a little bit, as as coney Eally, Like that's
Speaker 1: that's a mess Ron Reid him. But that's the point, Like,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying. I think Antoine Woods, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he's had a good camp. I think he's got
Speaker 1: to follow it up with two good games if he's
Speaker 1: gonna make this team, because there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: you can push him right out of the door. We
Speaker 1: talked about Degiolatoyer the other day, like he's a guy
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods who could play his way off of the
Speaker 1: team if he doesn't have a good final week. Okay,
Speaker 1: it sucks because you know, for a lot of these guys,
Speaker 1: like you know, the veterans are like done with preseason
Speaker 1: pretty much like they might get a couple series on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night. But like if you're on the bubble, if
Speaker 1: you're a rookie, ye or a second year guy, you
Speaker 1: gotta have eight more days of really good work. You
Speaker 1: gotta be focused right now. This is when you make
Speaker 1: the team basically, which for to answer your question, I
Speaker 1: would like to see one of these young dbs step
Speaker 1: up and do something to claim a roster spot. Duke,
Speaker 1: Mark Quez, White, char Various Ward, Tyree Robinson, cam Kelly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm later today I'm gonna post. It's not
Speaker 1: a roster projection. It's just a breakdown of what I
Speaker 1: think they might do at each position. I like it, Okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of fun writing it. But they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna keep nine or ten defensive backs and there's
Speaker 1: seven spots taken among veterans, so you got two maybe
Speaker 1: three spots open, and one of those rookies or young
Speaker 1: guys needs to do something. And that whole group that
Speaker 1: you just mentioned is it goes back to the same
Speaker 1: thing where no one really has stood out more than
Speaker 1: there is, like someone has a spark here and then
Speaker 1: the other one here. But it's I can point to
Speaker 1: something good that all those guys have done, I can
Speaker 1: point to something bad that all those guys have done.
Speaker 1: And the great opportunity here is that one of those
Speaker 1: safeties has a shot now, Like one of those safeties
Speaker 1: that that two weeks ago had probably no chance of
Speaker 1: making this team actually has a shot now. They just
Speaker 1: got to put it together here in these next eight
Speaker 1: days to be able to give themselves a legitimate chance. Yep. Um,
Speaker 1: I think the obvious question, you know, the obvious answer.
Speaker 1: Regardless of what you want him to do, everybody does
Speaker 1: want to see what Rico can do. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say him. We've talked about him all the time, and
Speaker 1: everyone's interested in what he's going to do, whether or
Speaker 1: not your pro Rico or not. But the guy throwing
Speaker 1: him the ball, Mike White, I think will be interesting
Speaker 1: this week. Um. You know, do you keep? You keep
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks? He's had a nice week of practice, he
Speaker 1: had he had, He's shown some some things in the
Speaker 1: game he needs. He's probably gonna play a lot more
Speaker 1: in this game and then obviously the fourth one. But
Speaker 1: I think Mike White has a chance to really don't
Speaker 1: worry about trying to be the backup quarterbacks. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's going to happen. But I do think he
Speaker 1: can solidify his spot because think about Xavier Woods. Let's
Speaker 1: say Xavier Woods can't play in the first game, and
Speaker 1: we know that that's another spot on the roster that
Speaker 1: you have to keep. You have to keep a safety inactive,
Speaker 1: you have to keep a center inactive. The more of
Speaker 1: these guys that you have to keep inactive is gonna
Speaker 1: be tough to keep these bubble spot players, which and
Speaker 1: that's Mike White is curious because that's like the luxury
Speaker 1: of all luxuries. We've talked about that a million times.
Speaker 1: Is he probably don't want to keep three quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: a perfect world, but it's on It's on Mike White
Speaker 1: to play well enough to make them save or we're
Speaker 1: not cutting this guy. I mean, if he has two
Speaker 1: crap games, you got problems with Travis Frederick, you got
Speaker 1: problems with Xavier Woods. You look at that and say,
Speaker 1: maybe we can get this guy through waivers. So it's
Speaker 1: important for him. A guy I would mention would be
Speaker 1: Charles Tapper. He I like the guy line up wanting
Speaker 1: him to be pull. I really want him to succeed,
Speaker 1: but as of right now that position is looking a
Speaker 1: little congested as far as talent goes, and especially with
Speaker 1: Randy making a comeback and all that, I want him
Speaker 1: to show something that would at least make somewhat of
Speaker 1: an argument to try to keep him. Aside from that,
Speaker 1: I talked to Will McClay not too long ago. He
Speaker 1: made a comment and I never really saw this process,
Speaker 1: the whole roster cuts, as somewhat of a draft. He
Speaker 1: was telling me this is basically like another draft for
Speaker 1: them when they're making cuts. So I wanted to see
Speaker 1: what you guys, who would be your draft pick out
Speaker 1: of all the guys that are not proven yet and
Speaker 1: are needing to be proven, bubble bubble players, who would
Speaker 1: be your pick? And it's a pretty big group, But
Speaker 1: who who would if you can? And I have a
Speaker 1: roster right here if you need one. Um, we're just
Speaker 1: like first first guy onto the onto the team. So
Speaker 1: you got these guys are not proving yet, not in
Speaker 1: certain trying to make the team. You got who would
Speaker 1: be the first guy that you pick on the maybe list? Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe yesterday. Well, it's something we're working on. For next week.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. It's about fifteen sixteen maybes. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: so you're you're basically saying, all right, you get you
Speaker 1: get to keep one. You get to um, you get
Speaker 1: to keep one. You know, drafting one? Who are you
Speaker 1: picking first guy one? Like it's a reality. The first
Speaker 1: guy that comes to mind is probably Antoine Woods. You
Speaker 1: won him, you're a team. Yeah, you're keeping him. He's
Speaker 1: had a great camp at a position where they don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of proven production. My guy would be Rico. Yeah. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just done too much to let him go. You
Speaker 1: just can't eat you're working on him. This is really
Speaker 1: a year and a half. Last year he was doing
Speaker 1: some good things and they stopped it day. So you
Speaker 1: guys said, you said two names that you mentioned as
Speaker 1: the ones you want to see more out of. But
Speaker 1: at the same time you're already convinced that you would
Speaker 1: keep him. Yeah, but I mean, I think we all
Speaker 1: want to see what he can do. Yeah. The weird
Speaker 1: thing about tied end is said nothing is It's not
Speaker 1: like you're just fighting for the fourth spot or the
Speaker 1: third spot or whatever. I mean. If he goes out
Speaker 1: and just has an amazing game, like a really really
Speaker 1: great game. I mean, who's to say he wouldn't play more,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's got he's got to learn
Speaker 1: how to do it from the twenty to the twenty.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm keeping him, not letting him go.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our second break, Derek. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you a little more time to come up with
Speaker 1: a name that we haven't tied to give you a name.
Speaker 1: Oh we go, No, that's copying. I have a different
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Speaker 1: So before break we went around and talked about those
Speaker 1: draft picks that you would pick out of the bubble guys.
Speaker 1: Nick mentioned Rico Derek, who's your guy? All Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take Brian Price. Um, I've always I've made no
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been pretty clear. I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: Brian Price. I think he's a good player. I think
Speaker 1: he's had a good camp. I don't think he's had
Speaker 1: a great camp. I think he's had a good camp.
Speaker 1: I think he's been good in the preseason. But I
Speaker 1: also think that's kind of who he is. Like he's
Speaker 1: just a good solid player. And when you talk about
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle position, that's probably I mean, especially when
Speaker 1: you're talking about bubble guys. If you got a good
Speaker 1: solid player that's a bubble guy, then he's probably the
Speaker 1: best of the bubble. Bubble guys, because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are on the bubble right now
Speaker 1: that are not good solid players. You know. Actually, the
Speaker 1: guy that I think is the best player of the
Speaker 1: bubble guys, and he's probably not gonna make this team.
Speaker 1: I know he's actually not gonna probably make this team.
Speaker 1: Um is Darius Jackson. Um. And it's really just for
Speaker 1: purposes of they just can't. I don't think they can
Speaker 1: make a rational reason to get him onto their fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster. But I think he's a good player,
Speaker 1: and uh, and I'm I'm just you know, I wish
Speaker 1: there was a play for him on this team because
Speaker 1: I really think he could be a great player. From him,
Speaker 1: he can he can make the practice squad. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: they decide they need a runner on the practice squad,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, they're gonna have four when
Speaker 1: it's all said and done. Serious, is this Bow Scarborough
Speaker 1: injury to the point where, like, is he hitting him?
Speaker 1: That's a good death injury? I mean, like, is it
Speaker 1: to the point where he's not gonna make it? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I personally, Yeah, I personally, I mean
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like Bow Scarborough. I actually,
Speaker 1: if I had to choose between the two and it
Speaker 1: was me making the decision, I take Darius Jackson over
Speaker 1: both Scarborough because you've seen more out of Darius how
Speaker 1: stuff right now. But that doesn't mean absolutely and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a matter of like a lot of this
Speaker 1: will be about their own projections for when they drafted
Speaker 1: both Scarborough, what what did they expect of him? What
Speaker 1: did they expect him to develop into? Um My thing
Speaker 1: is like, I don't you could say, well, he's a
Speaker 1: big body and all that. They're not going to use
Speaker 1: him like that because Zeke's gonna be the one getting
Speaker 1: those carries. So just to me, when you have a
Speaker 1: guy as good as Zeke that does everything, then what
Speaker 1: you want is you just want guys that if Zeke
Speaker 1: should go out or if Zeke needs a spell, they
Speaker 1: can come in and do everything. And I think Darius
Speaker 1: Jackson gives you maybe a little bit more of that
Speaker 1: than Bo Scarborough. But that's just my opinion. I think
Speaker 1: Bo's skill set is too unique to let him go
Speaker 1: at this point and ill and Darius Jackson's my guy
Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. He has been for two years.
Speaker 1: But you can find guys like him in the draft
Speaker 1: every single year. Bo I think has a unique talent
Speaker 1: level for where they got him, seventh round pick and
Speaker 1: injuries and you know he fell out a favorite Alabama.
Speaker 1: I think that all contributed to him dropping. It's just
Speaker 1: too intriguing to think of what he might develop into.
Speaker 1: Especially I'm and go play the long game for a second.
Speaker 1: Rod Smith is a free agent, and I don't mean
Speaker 1: Rod Smith's not going to break the bank in free agency,
Speaker 1: but you gotta I mean, do you do you bother
Speaker 1: paying a guy if another team wants to pay him
Speaker 1: more to be your backup or develop Scarborough? I do
Speaker 1: wonder about when you got a running back that's had
Speaker 1: an injuries, significant injuries in college. That does worry me
Speaker 1: a little bit, just because and I think because of
Speaker 1: the way his body's made. He's a big target and
Speaker 1: the NFL, big targets tend to get hit a lot,
Speaker 1: and that just that doesn't to me. I just think
Speaker 1: of him and I say, I don't know if he
Speaker 1: were put in a position where he had to be
Speaker 1: a primary back for a few games, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he would be able to take that kind of beating
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You don't know. You might be right,
Speaker 1: but much like Rico, he's just unique and it's too
Speaker 1: intriguing for me to want to let go of. And
Speaker 1: Darius Jackson has had some injuries in the pros. I
Speaker 1: mean he's been banged up too. I mean, you're right though,
Speaker 1: and you see Darius Jackson go out there, you can
Speaker 1: see some some spark. Some of those cuts he made
Speaker 1: in that last game. I was, I was very very impressives.
Speaker 1: He's a good player. They never should have cut him
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. For the millionth time, I hope he
Speaker 1: you know, if he I hope he makes this team
Speaker 1: somehow or is on another fifty three. I hope the
Speaker 1: best for him. But I'm just thinking about it in
Speaker 1: the long term, you know. I just I think Bow
Speaker 1: has the more intriguing upside, and also you would hope
Speaker 1: that there is it's more advanced because he's been here
Speaker 1: longer as far as the NFL. But Bow is just
Speaker 1: starting out. So obviously there's gonna be that little gap.
Speaker 1: And I think that we've seen moments of Bow where
Speaker 1: he can't he would want to make you keep him
Speaker 1: and the strength and I always say this about I've
Speaker 1: just never seen it back like that, you know, like
Speaker 1: an actually Carborough. He just looks like a monster. Yeah
Speaker 1: there this time, I am talking about a body bod
Speaker 1: why But no, he's just a monster basically, And and
Speaker 1: you that's rare when you find guys that tough and
Speaker 1: that those are the kind of guys you need in
Speaker 1: the NFL that are monster like and tough. Yeah. But again,
Speaker 1: when you talk about that big, monster body, I think
Speaker 1: there's a reason why running backs typically the ones that
Speaker 1: are durable, are typically shorter stock here. It's because the
Speaker 1: bigger the body, the bigger the target. And in the NFL,
Speaker 1: if you got a big target, you're gonna get hit,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get hit a lot. And I just
Speaker 1: I just personally am not a big fan of the
Speaker 1: big running back. That's just my own personal thing. The
Speaker 1: big tall running back. That just, to me, it just
Speaker 1: it hasn't always worked. It's worked a few times, but
Speaker 1: most of the time it is not worked. It's kind
Speaker 1: of funny because all this team has is just big,
Speaker 1: monstrous running back. No, no, no, that's not what I
Speaker 1: was just talking about when I was talking about, yeah,
Speaker 1: not tall. Look at this team's running backs though. I mean,
Speaker 1: Zeke is like six one two twenty something, Rode about
Speaker 1: six foot he's big, bigger for a running back. Yes
Speaker 1: he is. Zeke is thick, but Zeke is not a
Speaker 1: tall back. Zeke is big and Rod is tall. Zeke, Nick,
Speaker 1: you want to break the tie here. I don't consider
Speaker 1: Zeke to be a tall right, it's not short though,
Speaker 1: so but he's but he's not, huh, I looked it up.
Speaker 1: He's six. You look at him, he's a lot. Look up?
Speaker 1: Where where did you look at it? Right? He's a
Speaker 1: five eleven. Don't tell me. On the NFL in a
Speaker 1: position full of guys who are five nine, five ten,
Speaker 1: Zeke is big and Rod Smith is bigger, and bow
Speaker 1: Scarborough is bigger than that. That's all I'm trying to say. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not he's not a short back and he's not
Speaker 1: one of those. He's not like him. You know it's
Speaker 1: five to nine or whatever. I mean, he's he's probably
Speaker 1: a legit five eleven. And that's that's very average. And
Speaker 1: and I guess to Dave's point a running back, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit above average. But were he No one's
Speaker 1: ever talking about that kind of stuff. It's just the
Speaker 1: fact that he's he's I bet he's six one with
Speaker 1: that big mushroom set right now, that maybe what you're
Speaker 1: thinking about when you think about how tall he is.
Speaker 1: So sick it says his six bow is six one
Speaker 1: and Rod is six three. It's a Rod is a
Speaker 1: big dude. But I'm gon tall this Liafey running once again,
Speaker 1: I would be worried if Rod was my primary back
Speaker 1: every down. Like again, just think about across the NFL.
Speaker 1: You got those bigger backs. Name one that's been durable.
Speaker 1: Eddie George is the one that comes in my mind.
Speaker 1: But I can't think of a lot of big, taller
Speaker 1: backs that that were durable. I don't know how tall
Speaker 1: he was, but he ran tall. And Adrian Peterson was
Speaker 1: pretty good in his day. I know Adrian Peters. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say ran tall. He ran just straight upright, are
Speaker 1: you kidding? Yeah? But when he was taking on when
Speaker 1: he was taking on defenders, why are we he was
Speaker 1: so far in the weeds right now looking at Darius
Speaker 1: Jackson's high like six six Darius Jackson, Yeah, that's people
Speaker 1: giving him a little look at LANs Dunbar. See if
Speaker 1: it says six one, lands Dunbar is a solid five eleven,
Speaker 1: said nobody ever, All right, I don't remember where we
Speaker 1: were going with I root like hell for Darius Jackson,
Speaker 1: but I think Bo Scarborough winds up on the fifty three.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I just say I like Darius
Speaker 1: Jackson more personally. I just I mean he I said
Speaker 1: that when he was a rook Like there's like the
Speaker 1: yeah to next point, there's like a spark when he
Speaker 1: gets the ball. He was doing anything in the game
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, he's got some lens five eight. Okay,
Speaker 1: that might be. That might even be a little bit
Speaker 1: something they've had every All their stats are height. Height
Speaker 1: is always kind of a weird thing. It really is
Speaker 1: just where they put different people. Look about to helmet on,
Speaker 1: you gain two inches, There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: What do you all expect from the starters on Sunday night?
Speaker 1: I feel like it feels like something we're supposed to
Speaker 1: talk about. Well, I know what you expect? What I want?
Speaker 1: No expects, right. I think they'll probably play a little
Speaker 1: bit now, Like you know, instead of like everybody's hurt,
Speaker 1: you gotta get him off the field, it's like everybody's hurt,
Speaker 1: you gotta get him time with these new guys they're
Speaker 1: gonna be playing with. Zack's not playing though right now,
Speaker 1: Zack Martin, No, he's Zach's not playing. Do you do
Speaker 1: you still put Dak out there? I think he will
Speaker 1: go out for a little bit, and he said yesterday
Speaker 1: he wants to play. He doesn't know what I know.
Speaker 1: I know. I mean you have to a list for
Speaker 1: a little bit because that's the perfect scenario of what
Speaker 1: you might get if you know, let's say Zach doesn't
Speaker 1: come in and then you don't have Travis at the
Speaker 1: same time, this is the perfect scenario to prove that
Speaker 1: you're you know, practice that and see, okay, what are
Speaker 1: some of the fixes that we need to make and
Speaker 1: have at least one week and a half or so
Speaker 1: before the first game. Yeah, I mean if if they really,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna say, well, we're not gonna play him
Speaker 1: because we're gonna start Looney and Kadeem Edwards, then you
Speaker 1: got to do something else because I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: too far away from maybe those guys have to play.
Speaker 1: I mean, what if Zach Martin really was it was
Speaker 1: a two week injury and he wasn't going to play,
Speaker 1: then what would you do? No, I get all that,
Speaker 1: get confidence of these young guys and get him in there,
Speaker 1: but you can kind of get that with somebody else
Speaker 1: at quarterback, is my point. And if when in their
Speaker 1: first time doing it, you know there could be those
Speaker 1: moments when there's just a missed assignment. Do you want
Speaker 1: to risk that happening in a preseason game and now
Speaker 1: you get your quarterback hurt? Like that's the part that
Speaker 1: that at least I think it's worth a discussion. Now,
Speaker 1: I agree most likely they're gonna play him some um,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I think it's worth a discussion.
Speaker 1: Should you knowing that that that part of the offensive
Speaker 1: line is now brand new, I kind of think he's
Speaker 1: gonna play a little bit and I think that's a mistake,
Speaker 1: but I get the logic for doing it. We'll see
Speaker 1: what they decide. I mean, I thought Tyrod Taylor broke
Speaker 1: his hand last night to Rod Taylor, excuse me, I
Speaker 1: don't man, he was going by Tyrod in college. I
Speaker 1: don't know, wasn't. Yeah, I don't know whatever was he
Speaker 1: going about. It was everybody that's following him that somebody
Speaker 1: found a video of him saying Tyrod when he was
Speaker 1: playing for Virginia Tech. I don't know whatever whatever he
Speaker 1: wants to Rod Taylor, I thought he was done for
Speaker 1: the year, which he wasn't. He wasn't back, But I'm
Speaker 1: I'll be watching the keep my keep my good players
Speaker 1: off the field. But I think that's gonna play a
Speaker 1: series or two, see a little bit. All right, guys,
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