1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Know Your Foe on Colts dot Com and 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: in depth wook at the upcoming matchup. Here are your 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: host Casey Valier and former Colts wide receiver Bill Brooks. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Know Your Foe right 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: here on Colts dot Com. I'm your host Casey Valia, 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: joined as always by fold string of honor wide receiver 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Bill Brooks. The Colts have their final road game of 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: the season and it comes against the New York Giants 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: on New Year's Day. And to help us get up 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to date on all things Giants, we are joined by 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Patricia traina of Giants Country dot Com and association with 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: SI dot Com and also the host of Locked on 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Giants podcast. Patricia, thank you so much for the time. 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing well. Happy holidays, guy Ah, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: thanks happy holidays as well to you. Now, I want 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: to start with the Giants with the guy who was 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: under center in Daniel Jones. He had his fifth year 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: option declined by this team and here in Annapolis, we 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: aren't really sure how all that is unfolded, because you know, 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: we're in the AFC, so things have been a little 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: different for him. But a new coaching staff comes in. 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: You're not really sure what his long term future is 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: for the Giants, but it seems like he's kind of 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: steadied that ship. Here in twenty twenty two talk about 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: the play of Daniel Jones and kind of what the 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: expectations are moving forward after they did decline his option 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: for next year. Yeah, Daniel Jones came in after three 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: years in the league. People still didn't know what he 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: brought to the table. He was a turnover machine. You know, 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: he had gone through multiple offensive systems, multiple head coaches. 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: He never really had a solid receiving corps. He's offensive 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: line was a problem, you know. The only thing he 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: really had going for him was a running game, and 34 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: even that was kind of up in the air because say, 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Plon Barkley was always injured for the last couple of years. 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: So they brought in Brian Dable from Buffalo. He had 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: been to Buffalo offensive coordinator work Wonders with Josh Allen 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 1: up there. They brought in Mike copp To, a former 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks from Kansas City who learned under Andy Reid, 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: of course, and who worked with Patrick Mahomes, and together 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the two of them developed this system for Daniel Jones. 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: That fits what he does well, and it basically it 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: was starting over for Daniel Jones. So he has cut 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: down on his turnovers. I think he is tied for 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: like the lowest interception rate in the NFL. They have 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: made better use of his legs to extend plays as 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: well as on the RPOs and zone reads. He has 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: made much much better decisions. You don't see him throwing 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: the ball and saying to yourself, what are you doing? 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: You know, so he's made better decisions like that. He's 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: improved in the red zone, and I think the biggest 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: improvement for him is his feel in the pocket. There 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: were times many times in the last few years where 54 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: the pass rush would come at him and he would 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: just stand there totally oblivious as to what was going 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: on around him because he was trying to find a 57 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: receiver and he would lock in on a receiver. Well, 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: now he is doing a better job at feeling the 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: rush and moving out of harm's way. So a lot 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: of little improvements to have added up in his game. 61 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I think the future for him is I do think 62 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna want him back. Will they have 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: competition for him? That remains to be seen. There are 64 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: other teams out there that could use the quarterback, and 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, Jones might have some suitors out there, so 66 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: they'll be interesting to see if the Giants can bring 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: him back. But I think it would behoove him to 68 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: come back, spend another year in this system and really 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: solidify his presence as an NFL starting quarterback and show 70 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: that this year just wasn't a one hit wonder Well, Patricia, 71 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: you know a player that is having a good season 72 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: on the Giants offense is Saquon Barkley, and actually he's 73 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: one of his best seasons that he's having in his career. 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: He is fourth in the NFL on rushing yards and 75 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: is leading the Giants and receptions. In your opinion, has 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: he been the most complete back in the league this season. 77 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I think he's definitely up there. I think, you know, again, 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: this new offensive system, the Dable and calf to developed 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: has taken advantage of what say Quon Barkley does well. 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that was really frustrating 81 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: in the past with Barkley is that coaching they asked 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: would constantly pound him up the middle. They wouldn't really, 83 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, make much of an effort to get him 84 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: into space. Well that has changed with this system, so 85 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: they're you know, doing more misdirections and you know, getting 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: him out into space and whatnot. They're not really taking 87 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: as much advantage of him as a receiver as they did, 88 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, as the team did back in his rookie 89 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: season when he had I think over one hundred targets. 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: So that's a little surprising. But Barkley, it's healthy. He's 91 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: running with confidence. You know, he was determined at the 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: start of the year to show that he put all 93 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: the injury woes and whatnot behind him, and he is 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: just looking like a machine out there. And he's another 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: guy that I think the Giants are going to want 96 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: to bring back. Whether or not they're able to do 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: it remains to be seen, because I suspect he's going 98 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: to be to want to be paid like the highest 99 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: paid running back in the league. Now, Patricia, I want 100 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: to move to the wide receivers, and when you look 101 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver group on the field of Giants, 102 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 1: they are not household names. But Richie James, Darius Layton, 103 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: and Isaiah hot Has have been good enough to help 104 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: this offense this season. How have they been able to 105 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: do this with this group pretty much by playing within 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: their their skill sets. And by that I mean, you know, 107 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: the Giants, if you watched them, they don't really drove 108 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: deep down the field. You know, even though Darius Slayton 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: is capable of stretching the field, you don't see a 110 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: lot of passes down the field. So what the coaches 111 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: have had these guys do is a lot of you know, 112 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: crossers underneath routes and whatnot. And these are the types 113 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: of routes that these guys have excelled with. So you 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: know that. And then you know, interestingly, with Hodgins, who 115 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: was a guy that they picked up off waivers midway 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: through the year, I asked head coached Brian Dabele about that. 117 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I said, what has he done too quickly? You know, 118 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 1: look like he's been in this offense all his life. 119 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Besides the fact that obviously he did play for this 120 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: offense when Dable was in Buffalo and Hodgens was in Buffalo. 121 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: But he told me that the receivers that Hodgens including, 122 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: they get with Daniel Joe after practice, during practice and whatnot, 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: and they try to see things through his eyes so 124 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: that when they're running their routes. They know what Daniel's 125 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: looking at, They have an idea of what he's thinking, 126 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and they can adjust accordingly. We're talking with Patricia Trainer, 127 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: who's part of the Giants Country dot com and association 128 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: with SI dot Com. Before we switch over the defense, 129 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I want to kind of touch on the offensive line. 130 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: The last couple of years, they spend some top ten 131 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: picks on guys like Andrew Thomas in twenty twenty he's 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: a really good left tackle, and Evan Neil this past year. 133 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: I know he's had his ups and downs as rookies 134 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: typically go. But when you look at these two guys 135 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: in place with this offense now and then moving forward, 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: how beneficial is it to have those two cornerstones on 137 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: the sides? Oh? Very beneficial. I mean the Giants for 138 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: the longest time, their offensive one has been a weak link. 139 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: And you know, Andrew Thomas, you got to give credit 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: to him because he has played with seemingly a different 141 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: left guard every year. It seems like, especially this year, 142 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: you know, with the injuries to left guard, he's had 143 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: a different guy next to him, which can't be easy. 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: As far as Evan Neil goes, you know, I think 145 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: What a lot of people forget when they look at 146 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, how he's struggling now, is this young man 147 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: had a knee injury earlier in the year, which costs 148 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: him a few games, and you know, his technique, I think, 149 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, was interrupted. The work they were doing with 150 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: him on his technique got interrupted, and then there's certain 151 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: things that he's doing to compensate because I question whether 152 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: his knee is one hundred percent at this point. So 153 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: I think he's going to get better. You know, we 154 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: saw that with Andrew Thomas. When he first came into 155 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the league. He was a walking disaster. You know, everybody 156 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, the Giants totally missed up guy. 157 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: And then lo and Beholly settled down, he got healthy, 158 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: and he became a cornerstone at left tackle. And I 159 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: think I think Evan Neil is headed towards that same direction. 160 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Just has to settle down, get into a technique that 161 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: he can get comfortable with, and also get healthy from 162 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: that knee injury. Now, flipping over the defensive side of 163 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: the ball, sticking with the youth, they used the first 164 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: round pick this year for Cavon Thibodeaux, arguably one of 165 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: the most player is the biggest upside in this previous 166 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: year draft. How has he looked through his rookie season 167 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, Cabon Thibodeau started off the season 168 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: missing a couple of games. He had that preseason knee injury. 169 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: But he came back and and initially, you know, he 170 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: looked like he was still kind of feeling his way around, 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: needed to adjust to the speed of the game. But 172 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: over the last several weeks he has really come on 173 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: and he's been a disruptor. You know, people will look 174 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: at his numbers and say, oh, his sacks aren't eye popping, 175 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: They're not you know, Aidan Hutchinson like or Michael Parsons like. 176 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: But if you look at the film, you can see 177 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: just how disrupted this young man is and how he 178 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: opens up things for other people and his presence. What 179 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: that has done is that has created a picture poison 180 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: type of scenario for opposing offenses, because now it's like, Okay, 181 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: do you double up this guy? Do you double up 182 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: Adularie on the other side, do you double up Dextra Lawrence? 183 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Do you double up Leonard Williams. So the Giants, for 184 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: the first time in years, have of an absolute vibe 185 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and pass rush, and Thibodeau was a big, big part 186 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: of that. And not only is good with the pass rush, 187 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: but he's learning how to play the run a lot 188 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: better than he did earlier in the season. Now, Patricia, 189 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned Dexter Lawrence, and he's playing very well and 190 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: has benefited from Don Martindale's defensive scheme. He is having 191 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: a career year in sacks, tackles, QB hits and he 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: was also selected to the Pro Bowl this year. Why 193 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: has he excelled in this defensive scheme on the Don 194 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: Martindale I think one of the things Don Martindale did 195 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: with Dexter Lawrence. It's funny because it's something that I 196 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: had hoped that they would eventually do one day. They 197 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: moved him more towards the noose tackle position. You know, 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: in the past, he wasn't. You know, I always wondered 199 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: why the coaching staff didn't play him more in the 200 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: middle because I thought, you know, given his size, given 201 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: his skill set, he would be a fit there. Well, 202 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: he's played a lot more in the middle, and you know, 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: he's been able to take advantage of some of the 204 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: matchups he's gotten in the middle. So between that and 205 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: also you know, Dexter Lawrence is a guy who uh 206 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: just constantly constantly working at his craft constantly, you know, studying, 207 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: going to coach Martindale with ideas and stuff. So there's 208 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: just such a good communication there. And Martinelle is like 209 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: that with all his defensive players. You know, he encourages 210 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: them to come to him with ideas and you know, 211 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: what works they'll incorporate and what doesn't doesn't. But I 212 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing with Dexter has been, uh, you know, 213 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: getting him in the middle over the nose and also 214 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: you know at that one technique, where whereas in the 215 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: past he wasn't really doing that as much. Now I 216 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: moved to the secondary. Dorry Jackson has missed the last 217 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: five games due to an injury, and as we speak, 218 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: there's a possibility who played this Sunday. If he is 219 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: able to play, what will his presence on the faild 220 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: meaning for the Giant secondary? Oh, it'll be huge. But 221 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson before his injury was their number one quarterback. 222 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, after the Giants had to trim James Bradberry 223 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: off the roster because the salary cap issues, Dory Jackson 224 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: took on the number one role and he played it well. 225 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: He really did. So the Giants have definitely missed him 226 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: while he's been out. You know, there's some of these 227 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: top receivers that they've had to go up against. And 228 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: just look it last week, you know, when they faced 229 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, I mean Justin Jefferson had over one hundred 230 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: receiving arts. You know, you put a Dory Jackson on him, 231 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: maybe just maybe you hold him to under one hundred. So, 232 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's good that they're getting Jackson back, especially 233 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: now with you know, aff a potential playoff earth on 234 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: the line if they win one of their last two games. 235 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: And you know, I think what's going to happen with 236 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: a Dory if he plays this week, and you know, 237 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, there's a very good possibility he might. 238 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: I could see him being on a pitch count for 239 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: this week and then we'll just see how it goes. 240 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: And you know, because he's been limited in practice these 241 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: last two days, so I think, you know, it makes 242 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: sense to put him on a pitch count, let him, 243 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: you know, get his sea legs back underneath him, and 244 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: then just get them ready for the playoffs. If the 245 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: playoffs just happen to know. Come we'll find a couple 246 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: of things with the Patricia. That's kind of where I 247 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: want to go. I want to start with Brian Dable 248 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: in his first year as the coach of the Giants. 249 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: We've seen up in downs from especially lately we had 250 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: what we had in Jacksonville and Denver with their first 251 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: year coaches. But then also we have seen guys that 252 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: have taken in and stride, and Brian Dable is definitely 253 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: one of those. What have you seen out of him 254 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: in his first year in New York? Consistency has been 255 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. You know, The big thing with that 256 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: first year head coach, I think is how do they 257 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: respond in the good times? And how do they respond 258 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: in a bad time? You know, when adversity hit, does 259 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: the locker room splinter? Does the head coach managed to 260 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: keep the locker room together? So the Giants, they've had 261 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: their share of adversity. You know, they had that period 262 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: coming out of the bye week where they've lost I 263 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: think they went one, three and one, if I'm not mistaken, 264 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: over that that period and suddenly you know, the talk 265 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: of the town because they had gotten off to that 266 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: six and to start in the beginning of the year. 267 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Suddenly it was like, Giants, here we go again. But 268 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: every week Davel preaches the same message, which is, don't 269 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: worry about tomorrow, don't worry about next week, worry about today, 270 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: win today, and just keep stacking the good days on 271 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: top of one another. You know, he's encouraged the players 272 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: to have each other's back. He's kept an open door 273 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: with these guys. You know. Yes, he'll yell at them, 274 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: you know. I did a story on how he can 275 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: sometimes pop off at them, but they understand where he's 276 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: coming from. He has been authentic. He's been upfront with 277 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,359 Speaker 1: these guys, and I think they respect him and his program, 278 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: and like you said, that has carried them through, especially 279 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: through the bad times that they've had to endure. Now, 280 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: final thing, we haven't really mentioned the elephant in the room, 281 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: but the Giants can clinch a playoff birth of victory 282 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: over the Colts this weekend. So I want to go 283 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: back to the expectations for this team before the year, 284 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: and then where they are now and if they get 285 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, what are the expectations for how long 286 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: they're in the playoffs this year? Well, I mean to 287 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm not so sure. A lot 288 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: of people outside of that building thought that this team 289 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: was going to be a playoff team. I can tell 290 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: you that I didn't. I did think they were going 291 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: to be better than they were last year. Matter of fact, 292 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: I think I predicted their record would be eight, eight 293 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: and nine, So right now I'm pretty close close to that. 294 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean the playoffs. You know, the 295 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Giants have kept things close against some pretty good football teams. 296 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: They've also had some some teams that they played that 297 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: haven't been as good. So that's what we talk about 298 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: with consistency. You know, they haven't really blown anybody out. 299 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: And then of course they've gone up against the likes 300 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: of the Eagles, who absolutely destroyed them. You know, the 301 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions managed to destroy them. Dallas has destroyed them. 302 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: So you know, they're not quite there yet. When I 303 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: mean there, I mean in the upper tier, if you will, 304 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: the NFC. That being said, they're getting some very valuable 305 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: experienced or do some very valuable confidence that this program 306 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: is headed in the right direction. And if they do 307 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, I think, you know, I don't 308 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: know that they don't necessarily go far. It depends on 309 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: really who they're going to draw. If they draw the Vikings, 310 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: I think maybe they could potentially stand toe to toe 311 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: with the Vikings. If they draw the forty nine ers, 312 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that they have the gas to cross 313 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: the finish line, so to speak. But listen, you know, nobody, 314 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: like I said, outside of the building, thought that they 315 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: would get to this point. And this is you know, 316 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: people are gonna slam me for saying this, but this 317 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: is house money. They're playing with house money, and this 318 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: is a good building block for them because you know, 319 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: in the future when they have to recruit free agents 320 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and whatnot or convince their own guys to stay, they 321 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: could say, hey, look look at what we were able 322 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: to do. Can you imagine what we could do with 323 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: you on board next year and in year two of 324 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: the offensive system and defensive system. Well there you go. 325 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: Definite to be fun to watch this team down the stretch. 326 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: Patricia Traina of Giants Country dot com and association with 327 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: SI dot Com, also the host of Locked on Giants podcast. Patricia, 328 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time and enjoy the 329 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: game and Happy New Year. Happy New Year to you guys. 330 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: The Final Road game of the season for the Colts 331 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: as they travel out East to take on the Giants 332 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: on New Year's Day. The season finale next week and 333 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: the Colts come back home and they host the Houston Texans. 334 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: But before that, as we mentioned, it's the Colts and 335 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: Giants from MetLife Stadium on Sunday for Bill Brooks, I'm 336 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Casey Valley. Enjoy the game and go Colts.