1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Murder in Miami is a production of iHeartRadio. Here're some 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: additional interviews that provides some interesting context into the violent 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: and bizarre world of early eighties Miami, with some surprising overlap. 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Starting with a story from retired Miami Dade detective Jeff Lewis, 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: and you said, when you finally got into that house, 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: they had two cougars in the. 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Back In the backyard, they had two live cougars. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: It scared the hell out of us. 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: We didn't know what to do with them. A couple 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: of days later, we learned that cougar's had escaped the 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: backyard and that residence and the police had to be called. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: I guess they were legal to have. I'm not real 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: sure how that worked out, but they did end up 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: escaping and got caught. 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: But yes, they were live cougars. 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: It was the whole case. 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: I could write a book about that case alone. 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: Speechless. I mean, you're watchdog, but to think of two 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: live cougars patrolling the backyard, that's horrifying. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, and the detectives that went, you know, because you 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: surround the house before you enter it, and that's you know, 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: they were they went back there and they were it 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: was funny because the one of the detectives got you know, 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: we got onto the radio to advise and listen, I'm 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: I'm advising everyone that we have our cougar in the backyard. 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: And the dispatcher heard that and she got on the 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: radio and she says, QSK with the VEN number. She 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: thought he saw about a car, a cougar car, and 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: was going to get the VEN number to run it 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: see if it was stolen. And then we had a clarific. 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: I know it's a cougar, a cat lion, and. 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: That cougartail actually ties in with a childhood story from 33 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: current Miami Dade Police cold case Detective David Denmark. 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 5: And I can attest to that because I would believe 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: I was in middle school and during those days you 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: had to pick up your report card when it was 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 5: the end of the year before summer started. You actually 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: had to appear and sign for it and accept it. 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: And when we were growing up, when I say we 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 5: as friends of mine, we would all bicycle to school 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: and we would notice the area changing and actually we 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: called it Cocaine Alley, which was between is off one 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty seventh Avenue and southwest to sixth Street 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 5: and Bird Road, which is four two street. So that 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 5: area grew really quickly with huge homes, gated windows, and 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 5: driveways that we never saw in our neighborhoods, which was 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 5: only a quarter mile away. So it was just something 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 5: different and really affected us as kids because we weren't 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 5: afraid to drive through there. It was kind of entertaining 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 5: because one of those houses had two pumas in front 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: and cages, and we were just in all about that. So, 52 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: you know, we didn't have a problem driving it down 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: those neighborhoods, but we definitely saw a change, a huge 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 5: change go up rather quickly. We figured it was all 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: you know, that's why we call it Cocaine Alley because 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 5: we figured it was drug money that was purchasing and 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 5: building those homes. 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: I was going to say, I've mentioned this to you, 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: but Jeff told me a story about responding to a 60 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: house that had to pumas in the same house. 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, especially if it was in that area that 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: was known for a lot of the narcotics investigations and stuff. 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: Was that whole area there. But another little story is 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 5: during the time that we went to go pick up 65 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: our report cards, the evergrade started right around one hundred 66 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 5: and twenty seventh Avenue and went west and our church, 67 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 5: our local church was on the corner of Bird Road 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: and one hundred and twenty seventh Avenue, and they a 69 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 5: lot that was next to the church, and there would 70 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 5: always be cars parked there and they always had for 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: sale signs on them. And the day we would pick 72 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 5: up our report cards, we drove by there on our 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 5: bicycles and we smelled something awful. You know, we know 74 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 5: what roadkill smells like, but this was bigger than that, 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 5: because it engulfed the entire area, and we started looking 76 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: around the cars, just being nosy, and we came across 77 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 5: one where there was something dripping out of the trunk, 78 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 5: which ended up being maggots, And there was a huge, 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 5: very large, stained brownish reddish stain underneath the trunk of 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 5: that car, so we knew something was in that trunk. Well, 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: we flagged down a local police officer Miami Dade, and 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 5: he stopped, cleared us out and told us to step back, 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: and roped off the scene and homicide responded. You know, 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: the guys when the cool looking glasses and the dress 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 5: pants and the dress shoes showed up and they popped 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: that trunk, and indeed there was a body located that 87 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 5: was bound and gagged. So that's you know, that brings 88 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 5: it home to me again. I was born and raised 89 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 5: here in Miami. So when we saw that and figured, 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 5: you know, everything was going down and that was all 91 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 5: during the eighties, we knew times were changing. 92 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 93 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: or wherever you get the stories that matter to you.