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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club,

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Speaker 1: yep's the world most dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Want to show the Breakfast Club Charlamagne to God just hilarious.

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Speaker 2: DJ Envy had to step out, but we have some

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Speaker 2: special guests with us right now. We have a young

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Speaker 2: lady named April Hurley and she is here with her attorneys,

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Ruff and Bill Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you all. Good morning, Good morning, April.

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Speaker 2: I noticed might be traumatizing, but could you please explain

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Speaker 2: to the people why you are here this morning, tell them,

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Speaker 2: tell them your story.

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Speaker 3: So I'm here with you guys today this morning. Back

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Speaker 3: in September, I became a victim of a violent attack

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Speaker 3: that occurred in Baltimore, Maryland. Jason Billingsley literally tried to

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Speaker 3: kill me. And this could have been prevented had the

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Speaker 3: property management company made the right decisions and taking the precautions,

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Speaker 3: you know, to check into his background and to see,

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Speaker 3: you know, what he was into prior to giving him

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Speaker 1: So he was the maintenance guy in your building, yes, right, okay, so.

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Speaker 4: You know it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a very very traumatizing incident and I'm just

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Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm alive even you know, to this day,

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Speaker 3: even riding up here, you know, I just thank God

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Speaker 3: every day that I'll wake up because it's a different

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Speaker 3: feeling having someone try to take your life from you.

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Speaker 2: So he I hate to be graphic with the details

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Speaker 2: without for the sake of the story. He slashed your

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Speaker 2: throat and he gets you on fire.

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Speaker 5: Yes, wow, yeah, and actually you can see she's still.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's some stuff that you could never even imagine.

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Speaker 5: It's like something out of a movie where somebody who

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Speaker 5: has the ability to have access to someone's personal home.

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Speaker 5: As you know, your home is your castle. This is

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Speaker 5: the place you should feel the most safe on the

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Speaker 5: entire planet. And because of the lack of security protocols,

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Speaker 5: the lack of looking into mister Billians' Billionsley's background. Number one,

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Speaker 5: he was a twice convicted sex offender. He had been

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Speaker 5: and he showed his true colors not only with April,

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Speaker 5: is alleged to have killed a young lady named Pavel

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Speaker 5: La Pair who was a tech CEO startup guru in Baltimore,

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Speaker 5: and people alike. And that's really what built the momentum

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Speaker 5: around this entire situation, is that this man was a

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Speaker 5: and also in our civil lawsuit that we filed against

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Speaker 5: him on behalf of April. But this man was not

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Speaker 5: to be trusted to be allowed in somebody's personal space

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Speaker 5: like this, and he did exactly what his stripes showed

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Speaker 5: he would do and had done in the past, and

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Speaker 5: he did it again to April. It was really very heroin.

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Speaker 2: If you're a resident, you know, of a building our neighborhood,

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Speaker 2: and you're a registered sex offender, you have to let

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Speaker 2: everybody in the neighborhood know. Shouldn't it be the same

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't it would seem so?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And perhaps the law needs to be changed to

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Speaker 6: make that happen. That's a good point. And you know

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Speaker 1: It's got to be. They got to be.

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Speaker 6: Consequences when you don't protect people. And when you're a

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Speaker 6: And some people are too scared to do it. So

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Speaker 7: What I thought was said and interesting was that April's

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Speaker 7: it was someone else. It was one of your friends, right,

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Speaker 3: It was it was obvious, you know, that he was

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Speaker 1: The other person kind of spooked him a little.

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Speaker 5: Sure, But obviously it wasn't He wasn't a spot that

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Speaker 5: he Then he tied April ted, who was also our

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Speaker 5: You know, she saved this young man's life by escaping

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Speaker 7: And then, honestly, I felt like if it wasn't for

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Speaker 7: all the pain that he had inflicted, Like I feel like,

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Speaker 7: you know, she could have lost her life from just

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Speaker 4: Not enough to have.

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Speaker 7: An immediate death, you know, for you to have an

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Speaker 6: Look, I did criminal law for years. This is the

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Speaker 6: It's beyond beyond sadistic, beyond devilish, beyond any horror you

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Speaker 8: Have you.

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Speaker 2: Gone on any type of healing journey from this incident?

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Speaker 2: Because you know, I can clearly look at you and

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Speaker 2: rightfully so You're visibly triggered out at the comment. I

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do go to therapy weekly. I do have

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Speaker 4: You know, I am.

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Speaker 3: if I'm not feeling like myself or if something does

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Speaker 3: But you know, through hopefully through therapy and you know,

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Speaker 4: So that's that's what I've been working.

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Speaker 6: One of the things she's doing is learning self defense

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Speaker 1: Beautiful.

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Speaker 6: And I've never been in favor of a gun control

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm two a all day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe owning a firearm in this country as

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Speaker 6: Care absolutely, because look, we don't know what's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: You forget even to forget Trump. Just look at what

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Speaker 2: April goes through. I got four daughters, you know what

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I would definitely encourage every young woman to take

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Speaker 4: She's three.

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Speaker 2: I want to recommend my good sister, Robin Evans. She

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Speaker 2: has an organization called Chicks with Triggers, and everything you just.

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Speaker 1: Said is what she teaches. She teaches self defense.

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Speaker 2: With firearms, knives, She teaches you the laws of the

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Speaker 2: If you got the four four four the angel numbers

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Speaker 2: You know that means you are completely surrounded by angels.

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I was praying the whole time. Wow, the whole time.

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Speaker 4: I did not stop praying.

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Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't even cry because I was so

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Speaker 3: What was going on when I was thinking that, as

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Speaker 6: What made you get to go out the window like that?

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Speaker 4: He thought I was dead?

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Speaker 1: And that's only God.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: She went.

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Speaker 5: She went from what she told me was literally living

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Speaker 1: To you enough.

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Speaker 5: How in all we are of your strength and your courage.

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Speaker 2: Who was the first person to come to your ad April, Like,

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Speaker 3: The window, do you remember, I don't one hundred percent remember.

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Speaker 7: I don't I'm still not staring at you. Obviously you're

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Speaker 4: Staring like you know or.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you can, do you remember like

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Speaker 3: No, but I do remember there was a lady that

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Speaker 1: You know, I did it.

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Speaker 7: How did y'all find her? How did y'all get Bill

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Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, April's mother, I had actually represented her years ago,

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Speaker 5: this is a combination of all those things, not necessarily

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Speaker 5: that's why we've brought the lawsuit that we have on

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Speaker 5: has to be compensation for what she went through and

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Speaker 1: What is the apartment complex defense?

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Speaker 5: What are they saying, Well, it would be inappropriate for

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Speaker 5: relationship was with them, and how much they paid him,

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Speaker 5: that's the standard under the law is that this man

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Speaker 2: It's just scary because you think about the people that you,

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Speaker 1: It's like, you don't you really don't know the.

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Speaker 2: Background is some of these individuals and what they're capable of.

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Speaker 5: But that's the thing you have. You have the duty

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Speaker 5: with with great trust comes great responsibility. We just finished

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Speaker 6: This is this is leaving out that he got a

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Speaker 5: Good we did, we did arising start. But that case

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Speaker 5: is very similar to what happened April.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about the duty of care, the duty that

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Speaker 5: They at least have to make the reasonable steps to

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Speaker 5: that's reasonable and not something that's you know, overzealous or

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Speaker 5: they still put him in this position, it's even that

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Speaker 2: Not let their tenants know. And you know, April, I

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Speaker 2: hope you get all the money in the world. More importantly,

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Speaker 2: I'm sad that this ever happened.

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Speaker 1: But how did it?

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Speaker 2: How did it impact your relationship with God? Being that

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Speaker 1: For your faith?

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Speaker 3: You know, I honestly believe that God does allow certain

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Speaker 3: But you know, I pray about it, and I pray

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Speaker 3: So it is is definitely mind over matter, and it's

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Speaker 2: A lot question for Makama building. You know, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: He was still in the green Oh no, he's in jail. No,

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Speaker 5: That was the reason why he sat the place on fire, right,

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Speaker 5: But that was not not only to try and I

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Speaker 5: Was at the door of Pavlo La Pair's apartment building

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was exactly where I was about to go.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes we have the same mind, and Jess, you were

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Speaker 6: Knowing that it was much worse than that. Not an accident,

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Speaker 8: Lot, two people kidnapped, tentphed, murder, tortured sexually, as tried

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Speaker 5: Now three days three days later, literally points seven miles

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Speaker 5: readily say that we have known we're not looking at

445
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 5: going after the Baltimore City Police Department in this case.

446
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 5: But it's something that needs to be addressed. It's something

447
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 5: that needs to be talked about, because there's no reason

448
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: why her incident would have been treated differently other than

449
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 5: than obvious.

450
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 6: And that's why we're unapologetically a black firm aimed at

451
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 6: helping black people to rise up above and beyond our

452
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 6: oppression and most importantly, our oppression state of mind. And

453
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 6: if white folks were doing what they were supposed to

454
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 6: do to undo what their forefathers have have done and

455
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 6: undo what they continue to do, that would not be

456
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 6: a necessary attitude. There would be a partnership. But because uh,

457
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 6: there has never been an adequate partnership between whites and

458
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 6: blacks across the board to eliminate racism, we're gonna be

459
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Speaker 6: stuck with it for a long time.

460
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Speaker 2: And because of that lack of partnership, that's why, you know,

461
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: what happened to April, something even worse happened to you know.

462
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Speaker 6: And see if you if you don't have that separatist

463
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 6: statement where you don't read the raise the red flag

464
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 6: for her, it's gonna spill over into the white community.

465
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 6: It's gonna it's gonna hurt whites, maybe, as in this case,

466
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 6: worse than.

467
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Speaker 1: It hurt Martin King.

468
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: Jenior said it the best injustice anywhere, a threat to justice.

469
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Speaker 6: That's exactly right. And we're still stuck in the mud

470
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 6: of not getting enough support to overcoming.

471
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Speaker 1: How did this How did this impact your relationship with jon.

472
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Speaker 4: H I'd rather not comment on that.

473
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: Gotcha?

474
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Speaker 9: Ye?

475
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 7: What about your parents? They I know they're kind of

476
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 7: scared to let you out there. It's like, you know,

477
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 7: you're you're grown, but I know it's like because I

478
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 7: now remember, you know, you mentioned your dad, you know.

479
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 4: And I know he was furious.

480
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah that's baby girl.

481
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, my my dad.

482
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Speaker 3: Definitely, I feel like, uh, you know, he reacted as

483
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 3: as any loving, caring father wood. You know, he has

484
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: four other children, you know, and I'm the oldest of

485
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: his kids, and so it definitely hit him a lot different.

486
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: And you know he's he's a tough guy, you know,

487
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: but I could tell that it hurt him, you know,

488
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: very very deeply, very protective, you know, needing to know

489
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: what's going on, where I'm at, who I'm with, you know,

490
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: like I'm fifteen again, but you know, I'm thankful that

491
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: I do have him, you know, to be there.

492
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: My mother, oh my gosh, and she.

493
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: Lives all the way in Texas, so it's you know,

494
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: the constant phone calls. If I don't answer the first

495
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: or second time, she's texting everybody, Hey, have you heard

496
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: from April? You know, because she's assuming that something might

497
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: have happened again, you know, and she's so far away.

498
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 7: Like you said, she's right, it happened. I mean, she

499
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 7: have to get on the plane and she would like

500
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 7: it takes time.

501
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so you know, but it is a little

502
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: frustrating sometimes. But you know, I'm a mother as well,

503
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: so I think about it. Like I said, you know,

504
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: I wake my daughter up in the middle of the

505
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: night to come sleep with.

506
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: Me because.

507
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine ever feeling what my mom had to

508
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: feel when I went through this, you know. So I'm

509
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: just I'm thankful that they have been hearing from me

510
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: and that they continue to be here for me. And

511
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm just thankful for all the support that I'm getting

512
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: for everybody, because you know, it does help motivate me

513
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: to keep going.

514
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I learned in therapy was that I

515
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: always said my father raised me out of fear as

516
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: opposed to love. He just simply didn't want me to

517
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: make the same mistakes that he made. I agree, like

518
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying not to do my daughters.

519
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: But it's hard, right because of the world we live.

520
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: Right with what you've been through, the traumatic experience you've

521
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: been through, how are you raising your daughter with love

522
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: and not fear.

523
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting because, I mean, she's three years old,

524
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: so you know, she's she wants to explore, she wants

525
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: to learn, she wants to, you know, run off. She's

526
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 3: very social. We could be at the store and she

527
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: wants to run up to strangers and say, hey, can

528
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: I can I say hi to this person? And I

529
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: have to explain to her that, you know, it's okay

530
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: to be polite, but we don't know them, you know.

531
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Speaker 3: So I try to explain to her and the best

532
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: way that I can for her to see both sides. Yes,

533
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: you can say hello, but you need to stay next

534
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: to mommy.

535
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: You can't, you know.

536
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: So things like that is where I kind of try

537
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: to just help her understand those boundaries so that she

538
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: is aware of what's going on around her because.

539
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: She is so young, you know, so innocent, and.

540
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, it just goes back to

541
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: I could never imagine, you know, being in my mother's position,

542
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: And I know I'm not God. I can't control the

543
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: world and the people in it, but I want to

544
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: do my best, like you said, to not teach her

545
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: and fear, but for her to understand. You know that

546
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: everyone is not a good person. You know, everybody is

547
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: not looking out for your best interests. Some people are evil,

548
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: some people want what you have. Some people are just

549
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: out of their mind and you know, react to the

550
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: first person that they see. So, you know, hopefully as

551
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: time goes on, you know, I'll be able to continue,

552
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: you know, just teaching her with love and understanding and

553
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: kindness and helping her set those boundaries, you know, moving

554
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: forward for herself, because I would never want something like

555
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: this to happen to my own child, let alone anyone else.

556
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: Hold you I'm twenty five, yes, damn ye.

557
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 6: See this raised a very interesting question about trauma because

558
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 6: we now know that there's such a thing as epigenetics. Absolutely,

559
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 6: epigenetics is a mechanism in the human body that transfers

560
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 6: trauma from the generation where it was inflicted. To the

561
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 6: next general. And that accounts for a whole lot of

562
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 6: our behavior. It accounts for why our attitudes about slavery

563
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 6: and segregation still persist, because that trauma passes down through

564
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 6: body mechanisms that we are understanding for the first time.

565
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Now, all off from Baltimore, Sir.

566
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in Baltimore City, but I went

567
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: to school in and around the county.

568
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: So right around the corner, Yeah, right around the corner.

569
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: Yet it comes out one guy. I try. I try

570
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: to minimize it a little bit because you know, she

571
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: won't get made fun of like I do every day

572
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: up there. Yeah, you know, it's a time and place.

573
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: It's a time and place.

574
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: It's two o'clock a night, A good time.

575
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: Two o'clock, two o'clock.

576
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: Were talking about I love the accident.

577
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: I don't hear it.

578
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: You want somebody and he wanted me to come.

579
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 9: On here, right, I want to like yeah, because they

580
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 9: say dog like nobody got.

581
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: This sounds like it's an easy case to win billion, Malcolm,

582
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: But what are some of the obstacles y'all have encountered

583
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: since taking on the lawsuits?

584
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 6: Well, whether or not, First of all, the man has

585
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 6: assets or insurance to pay the damages that will be

586
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 6: humongous in this case from what we know preliminarily the

587
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 6: property are on whose name I will not mention has

588
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 6: perhaps modest wealth and unknown insurance because we haven't been

589
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 6: able to pin that down yet, and so we are

590
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 6: praying for her sake that there is a mechanism to

591
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 6: collect the tremendous damages that any driven would impose in.

592
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: This Absolutely absolutely, I'm sorry it's happened to you.

593
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm not It was a pleasure to have this conversation

594
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: with you, but I'm sorry that we have to have

595
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 2: this conversation, right.

596
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: It's terrible, man like I think one of the things

597
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 5: I think about with her is this man bent her soul.

598
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: But he didn't. He didn't break it, didn't break it,

599
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 5: he didn't break it. And that's just the testament of her.

600
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: But even somebody's soul being bent, that that's morbid, right,

601
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 5: and it needs to be corrected. And so that's why

602
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: we're here. That that's exactly why she's here and being

603
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 5: the strong woman that she is despite the circumstances, because

604
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: she's she's got a game back with the with the

605
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: what the evil took from her, but the devil took

606
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 5: from her, We're gonna claim from victory.

607
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 6: Yeah true, evil in its deepest, deepest Yeah true.

608
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Is my final question everyone, do you want people to

609
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: ultimately take away from your situation?

610
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: What you want them to learn from this?

611
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, anything can happen to anyone,

612
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: So I definitely want people to be smart and the

613
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: decisions that they're making. And especially you know, when you

614
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: think you're safe, you know, it doesn't hurt to go

615
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: and and double check it doesn't hurt you. As for identification,

616
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes the people that we think are supposed

617
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: to be doing these things are not or may not

618
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: have done it correctly or to the extent that we

619
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: would have. So take your safety seriously, you know, and

620
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 3: trusting God. You know, that's that's my number one thing,

621
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: Trusting God. No matter what you go through, celebrate the

622
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: wins and the losses.

623
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Speaker 7: You both watching it, I was, I'm like, this is

624
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 7: where I'm from when it is happening, you know, Like

625
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 7: you raised the point about the black butterfly in the.

626
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 4: White hel that's bullshit.

627
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 7: Like I just I can't stand how we are you know,

628
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 7: how the butterfly is labeled you know, like it's it's

629
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 7: things that people that live in a black butterfly not

630
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 7: that important. Things that they go through are not that important,

631
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 7: you know. So I just I'm happy that I did

632
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 7: see your story. Shout out to trapping Anonymous Christal. Yeah,

633
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 7: he was amazing. I was like, can I get a

634
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 7: contact on her and all that? And I thought he

635
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 7: was gonna be like no, because you know, once you

636
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 7: go through something like that, you don't want to talk

637
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 7: to everybody, right, I don't care how big your platform

638
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 7: is or whatever. You don't want to relive it by

639
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 7: even speaking on it, you know. But I was happy

640
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 7: that he did tell me, well, she has attorneys, and

641
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 7: she was like, damn, that is so good.

642
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 4: That was so good. So I love you too. Thank

643
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 4: you for reaching out.

644
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: I heard it. If I told you, you heard it.

645
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: They're call to action. Is there something we could do that,

646
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: there's something to people be calling the number?

647
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know for your firm, Well, yeah, absolutely,

648
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 5: we're Our firm is called Murphy, Falcon and Murphy. We

649
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 5: have our senior founding partner, Billy.

650
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: Wow.

651
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 6: Absolutely, we're the oldest black firm in the United States.

652
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: It's like fourth generation.

653
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, my son is an attorney as well.

654
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 5: Amazing and so we were just Murphyfalcon dot com. Murphy

655
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 5: like m u r p h y Falcon like the bird.

656
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: You can actually find me on i G. I'm brother

657
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Speaker 5: with the A Underscore Malcolm E.

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Speaker 3: S Q.

659
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 5: And we certainly want want people to send best wishes

660
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 5: to April as we go through this legal journey to

661
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 5: keep UH putting attention on this. And I also want

662
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Speaker 5: to just add my last comment and advice to folks

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Speaker 5: would be along the lines of what.

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Speaker 1: April said, Ask all the questions.

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Speaker 5: You got to be your biggest advocate, especially if you're

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Speaker 5: in a relationship with a landlord or somebody that has

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Speaker 5: control over your housing space, to ask them. I want

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Speaker 5: to know who's all in your staff. I want to

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Speaker 5: know their background. I want to know how you what

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Speaker 5: kind of access you're giving them, because that is the

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Speaker 5: way that you can, you know, really protect yourself and

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Speaker 5: not have to rely on the landlord doing their job, which.

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Speaker 6: Everybody everybody should put in their budget home security system

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Speaker 6: and stop relying on other people to ensure your safety.

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Speaker 6: You are your best protector and you need to make

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Speaker 6: sure that every tool in the technological toolbox that you

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Speaker 6: can afford, you implement so that your space is protected

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Speaker 6: and so that when you're away you can see what

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Speaker 6: is going on in your space. When you're at work,

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Speaker 6: you can see what's going on in your space. So

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Speaker 6: you got to do that too.

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Speaker 4: You at that Landlord top not Security.

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Speaker 1: Do you have Instagram?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: At at Big Term AP.

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Speaker 2: At Big Time AP Go to April's Instagram and just

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Speaker 2: show us some love, man.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: For in the comments.

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Speaker 2: Man, just let her know that you see her and

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Speaker 2: you hear her story and you're just sending her positive

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Speaker 2: energy and healing energy.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for that. If anything happens to you out there,

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Speaker 6: you know how to reach us. Absolutely, Murphy Falcon and

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Speaker 6: Murphy Billy Murphy. Now from Ruth, who is, by the way,

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Speaker 6: my favorite student.

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Speaker 1: He soaks it up like a sponge. Thank you for coming, April, Malcolm.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me wake that ass up in

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Speaker 1: the morning. The Breakfast Club