WEBVTT - Actually Buying a Home #067 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're discussing actually buying a home. That's right, Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week we talked about everything you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>before buying a house, and now this week we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the actual house buying process, everything from submitting an

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<v Speaker 1>offer all the way through to your closing date. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many little things involved, Matt, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>them are important in making sure that you buy a house. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'm looking forward to talking about that. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to it, I wanted to let you know

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<v Speaker 1>that one of our neighbors gave some hand me down

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<v Speaker 1>bikes to my girls. His girl's had outgrown them. They

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<v Speaker 1>got some new bikes, and so my girls have been

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<v Speaker 1>super excited to ride bikes. And the weather has been

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit warmer lately, so it's been really really

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<v Speaker 1>fun getting out there and just kind of riding bikes

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<v Speaker 1>with the girls because normally I put them on my

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<v Speaker 1>bike and and that's a lot of fun, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun just to watch them get into it

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<v Speaker 1>on their own too. So yeah, we're really enjoying bike

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<v Speaker 1>riding right now. It wasn't I on that text thread

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<v Speaker 1>as well, where it was offered to you and me, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you never and then and then he took both of

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<v Speaker 1>them jerk, Hey, I offered after the fact, I did say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome to one. But you're pretty stocked on bikes

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<v Speaker 1>over here. Yeah, actually, yeah, we've got some freebees as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep kind of stashing them down to my basement

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<v Speaker 1>down the cross space when the time comes and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pull them out and hose them off. Get him

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<v Speaker 1>nice and shining for the girls. Yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you post a picture from from when you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were riding. Was that during the week as well? We

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of taken some time off from work. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I knocked off a little bit early. We we went

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<v Speaker 1>to a biking path essentially, and and the girls had

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<v Speaker 1>a blast. And there are a couple of playgrounds along

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<v Speaker 1>the way that's the best. So yeah, we're like biking

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, stopping off at the playground, biking

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<v Speaker 1>some more, stopping off. Yeah, the playground destination makes it

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<v Speaker 1>worthwhile for the kiddos. I was asking though, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the same day I had family in town and

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little bit nervous because I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work on my plate these days, and to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of be able to take that much time off

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<v Speaker 1>during the day when I know that I'm typically working,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was hard. I kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>like a little panic attack when I realized that, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be able to get the things

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<v Speaker 1>done that I need to get done today. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I realized, I kind of reminded myself, back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mission Statement episode that we did with Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>that having this kind of flexibility is important to me

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<v Speaker 1>and to be able to pry myself away from my work,

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<v Speaker 1>which is essentially what I have to do, uh is

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<v Speaker 1>pride myself away, but to remind myself that, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to spend time with my family. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>spend time like you with your kids, just on a

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<v Speaker 1>random day when when it's beautiful outside, and to give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself that flexibility. And it's sort of like lifestyle shaping,

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<v Speaker 1>like we know in our heads what we want our

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<v Speaker 1>life to sort of look like. And it's weird to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, but for me, man, it's it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work to actually see it out and do

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I know that I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>on paper or in my head, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to my actual actions, it's really hard. So it's really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult for me. And I don't know if that means

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a workaholic or or what, but seeing you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do that was inspiring for for me, So so

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Man. Yeah, no, I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 1>alone in that at all. I think it's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>for us to match up kind of our beliefs and

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<v Speaker 1>what we hold dear to our actions. Sometimes that's a

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<v Speaker 1>human tendency, right to to say that we value one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but in fact all these other things get in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of us prioritizing the thing that we say we

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<v Speaker 1>care about the most. And I think probably all of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners can resonate with that to a certain degree,

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<v Speaker 1>that the things that we want to hold up as

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<v Speaker 1>the most important things in our lives, we find ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>answering emails when we should be spending time with our kids,

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<v Speaker 1>or we find ourselves on our smartphones in bed when

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<v Speaker 1>we should be having a nice moment with our spouse, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or even just hopping back on the computer. Like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just after I take a shower at night, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I roll take that night shower helps me

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<v Speaker 1>feel all warm and cozy and clean, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>then I go to bed. I gotta imagine you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a low percentage of people that take showers at night. No, man,

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<v Speaker 1>there's gotta be someone else out there. Just like the

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<v Speaker 1>hot water thing. I think there's folks out there who

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<v Speaker 1>also shower and it, but sometimes they're probably the same

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<v Speaker 1>four people. But I know that if I get back

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<v Speaker 1>on the computer for a little bit more and hammer

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<v Speaker 1>out a few more emails or do some outlines or

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<v Speaker 1>just some other work that I know it needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just for ten minutes. It ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty minutes or an hour, and then I stay

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<v Speaker 1>up late, and it's it's not a priority of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I want to try to go to bed sooner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why the mission statement is helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's that kind of kicking the pants, the reinforcement

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<v Speaker 1>when you are doing something that essentially violates your mission statement.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a reminder, right that general push to to actually

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<v Speaker 1>live life according to the terms that you want, and

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<v Speaker 1>not to just be pushed into a way of living

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<v Speaker 1>by force. So I think it's good to be at

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<v Speaker 1>least aware of it. You know, anytime there's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>day like that, I think to myself, Man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a time where I could have the flexibility if I

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<v Speaker 1>was more maybe diligent about getting my work done more

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<v Speaker 1>efficiently and to take advantage of the flexibility I have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's tricky, It's tough, all Joel. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce the beer for this episode, Yeah, Matt. Today on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, we're drinking Boulevard Space Camper Cosmic I p A.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a brand new release from Boulevard Brewing Company,

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<v Speaker 1>and our friend Hillary over there send us some of

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<v Speaker 1>the spears, so we're excited to have it on the

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<v Speaker 1>show today. Hillary, she's a listener and friend of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll let you know what we think about the

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<v Speaker 1>spear towards the end. And I'm excited to share this

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<v Speaker 1>one with you today. Man, while we talk about buying

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<v Speaker 1>a house, all right, Matt, The reason we need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about actually buying a home is because the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between getting a house that you want and not getting

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<v Speaker 1>it can be incredibly small. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>little things that can help your offers stand out and

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<v Speaker 1>they can make the buying process go more smoothly. And

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<v Speaker 1>most of us only buy a house once or twice

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<v Speaker 1>in our lifetime, a few times maybe, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know what to do. And even if we

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<v Speaker 1>bought a house five years ago, we've completely forgotten. Things

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<v Speaker 1>have changed and we need a helping hand. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of know what the process is like so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can stand out when we're making an offer,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we can actually close on the house that

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<v Speaker 1>we want while getting the best rate in the best terms. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on our last episode, one of the things we discussed

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<v Speaker 1>was getting a great realtor. However, different realtors have strengths

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<v Speaker 1>and yours. You know, they may be a great alter

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<v Speaker 1>but they may not be good at teaching you through

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<v Speaker 1>the process of the actual purchasing process. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>might be great at negotiating, or they might know a

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood really well. But if you're the kind of person

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<v Speaker 1>who likes to know every step of the way, like

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening now, what's happening now, Like, certainly we would

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to ask, but yeah, this episode is for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk through all the different little steps of

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<v Speaker 1>submitting an offer and just all the small details that

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<v Speaker 1>go into that. And even if you have a great agent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome, well, this is gonna help you be

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<v Speaker 1>able to ask the right questions because an agent is

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<v Speaker 1>often busy negotiating your deal right and getting the paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>together and making sure that you're shown the houses that

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<v Speaker 1>you're interested in even before that stuff happens, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a lot on their plate and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>always based on negligence that they don't explain things well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because they've got a lot going on. And so

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<v Speaker 1>this episode hopefully will give you the ability to ask

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<v Speaker 1>the right questions so that you can stay informed during

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<v Speaker 1>the process and make sure that you are watching your

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<v Speaker 1>own back because obviously your agent is trying to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but more than anybody else's it's your responsibility to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that that you're going about this process correctly. So

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<v Speaker 1>where we are now is that you've looked at tons

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<v Speaker 1>of houses, hopefully you've maybe even looked for a month

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<v Speaker 1>two months trying to find that right house, that that

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<v Speaker 1>house that you know will will work for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>so after the break, we're gonna get to the first

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<v Speaker 1>step that is required if you want to purchase a home,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's submitting an offer, you got to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Matt. Let's talk about submitting an offer. And

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<v Speaker 1>typically most people just don't think through this step enough.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't think that submitting an offer is actually all

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<v Speaker 1>that important. They're just trying to decide whether they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>submit an offer with the asking price or not. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are all sorts of other things that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do to make your offer more competitive and increase the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood of you actually going under contract on that home.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what we want to do. As we

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<v Speaker 1>talked through submitting an offer, and the first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you should do when you're submitting an offer is have

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<v Speaker 1>your agent call the listing agent to kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>a feel for what's going on. This is when having

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<v Speaker 1>a great agent, like we talked about at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of last week's episode can pay off majorly for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So a personable agent can talk to the agent and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get a feel for whether the seller needs

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<v Speaker 1>to move out quickly, is trying to sell a sap

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<v Speaker 1>and you might be able to infer from that that

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually willing to take a little bit less money

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<v Speaker 1>if you're willing to close in two weeks as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to a month and a half. And maybe that's the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing about your offer. For sellers, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>always about accepting the highest dollar amount. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>other things that go into creating a winning offer, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we want to kind of tackle those. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing. Have your agent called the other agent

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<v Speaker 1>and get a feel for what's going on, Joel. A

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<v Speaker 1>great agent will will help you to obviously communicate with

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<v Speaker 1>the seller, and they will help convince the selling agent

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<v Speaker 1>to want to sell the house to you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're there to talk you up and make you

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<v Speaker 1>look great. Yeah, and I swear I've got an agent

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<v Speaker 1>like that where she literally has that sort of power

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<v Speaker 1>over people to make them want to sell me the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is amazing. And a key thing that your

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<v Speaker 1>agent will help you to do is to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how much to offer. Your agent can pull comps in

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<v Speaker 1>the area, actual stays that have gone through, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>help you determine how much to offer. And these comparables

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<v Speaker 1>are based on other houses, the amenities that the houses have,

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<v Speaker 1>square footage, because what you really want to avoid doing

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<v Speaker 1>man is coming in with a crazy low offer where

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<v Speaker 1>you end up offending the seller and you've completely lost

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<v Speaker 1>your chance at purchasing that home. But when you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>with your agent about how much you should offer, just

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<v Speaker 1>make sure to stick to your budget. Like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about before, it's really easy to get excited and emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>tied to a home that you've been looking at and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pursuing, But it's really important to stick to

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<v Speaker 1>your budget at the same time, because you can find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself biting off more than you wanted to chew and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just not a position you want to be in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so your offer, you've made it. But the fact is

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<v Speaker 1>the seller isn't likely to accept your offer straight up,

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<v Speaker 1>like as is. There's a good chance that there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be some negotiating going on. They are likely going to

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<v Speaker 1>submit a counter offer. It's not often that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever price that you throw out there to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the seller that they say, okay, all this looks awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably gonna counter in my go back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>a few rounds. And like, the reason I bring this

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<v Speaker 1>up is because this is when it starts getting kind

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<v Speaker 1>of real, you know, Joel, start biting your fingernails. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like because you think crap, Like is this what I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to agree to pay for? And what's important?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna get to this as well. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole period of time where you can negotiate further

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<v Speaker 1>and make amendments to your offer, specifically depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>results of your inspection. So just know that there's more

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<v Speaker 1>wiggle room down the road and that chances are there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be more negotiating and other counter offers that

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<v Speaker 1>can be made. So real quick, let's let's say a

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<v Speaker 1>few things that are gonna make you stand out as

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<v Speaker 1>having a better offer than other people. And for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and I we've talked before about putting down on

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<v Speaker 1>a home. If you have a higher down payment and

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<v Speaker 1>you write that into your offer and the seller then

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<v Speaker 1>knows that you've got cash in the bank, they're much

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to accept your offer than someone going with

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<v Speaker 1>a three and a half percent down FH loan. Your

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood of getting through the financing process is much greater

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got a lot of cash, you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the bank and you're ready to put it down

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<v Speaker 1>towards that home. Yeah, I mean, another aspect is the

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<v Speaker 1>earnest money, Like, this is money that you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>put down to put towards the closing and then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it goes towards the total amount and do at the

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<v Speaker 1>closing table. But you know, you could technically put down

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars for earnest money, but the seller is probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look at you and think, nah, you're crazy, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you putting down five dollars? Earn this money

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<v Speaker 1>can typically vary between one to five percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>purchase price. Most deals that I've done, it's just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of just a set amount. It's like, all right, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to put two or three grand down, or you

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<v Speaker 1>wanna put five or seven just to make it look

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<v Speaker 1>really strong. But generally speaking, the more earnest money that

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<v Speaker 1>you can put down when you submit your offer, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks more attractive to the seller because they see that

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<v Speaker 1>you're being serious and then you're not messing around and

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<v Speaker 1>wasting your time. Yeah, kind of an outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>box way to make your offer look a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>stronger too, is to write a personal letter to the

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<v Speaker 1>seller and they want to always read it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>always a winner, but that's one thing that can help

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<v Speaker 1>you stand out if two offers are incredibly similar, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got a personal letter from someone that really fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with the house, wanted to talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>their future looked like in the house, and explained that

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to put a garden out back, or how

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to eventually raise a family there someday, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that like that would kind of tug at my

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<v Speaker 1>heart strings. And if it was a thousand or two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars difference, or it was a difference of earnest

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<v Speaker 1>money or something like that, like I would be much

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to consider the person with the slightly weaker

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<v Speaker 1>offer that submitted a handwritten note telling me how much

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<v Speaker 1>they love the house and and you want the house

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<v Speaker 1>you're selling to go into good hands, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>one kind of outside of the box way to approach

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<v Speaker 1>submitting an offer can make the difference between potentially in

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<v Speaker 1>a tight market in a bidding war, can make the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between you getting a house or not. Yeah, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great example. And that's something that Kate and

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<v Speaker 1>I did in this house and the house ever recording,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had reached out a few months before the

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<v Speaker 1>house was ever even on the market, before it was

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<v Speaker 1>even an option for them to sell. And we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just touched base and kind of explained to them

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<v Speaker 1>our situation, and you know, they kindly got back and

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<v Speaker 1>said that they weren't in a position to sell. But

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<v Speaker 1>guess what in the coming months when they were in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to sell, and they knew that they were

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<v Speaker 1>ready to get rid of the house because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they were living overseas. Guess who were the first folks

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<v Speaker 1>that they contacted. It was me and my and my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and so we in in this instance, we were

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<v Speaker 1>able to get the home without it even going on

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<v Speaker 1>the market, which is really key because at that point

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<v Speaker 1>you're avoiding the competition and other folks that are also

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<v Speaker 1>interested in the house, and that can also drive up

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<v Speaker 1>the price. Yeah, that's pretty sweet, mat You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>good deal on that. And also you want to consider

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<v Speaker 1>things like the schedule of when you're closing. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, when you're talking to your agent, if it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like the seller needs to be out of their

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<v Speaker 1>home quickly, submitting an offer with a closing date that

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<v Speaker 1>happened sooner is a better way to go, right And

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<v Speaker 1>if you can make that happen, your offer just became

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot stronger, and the closing date can just

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<v Speaker 1>be a crucial factor of whether your offer is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be even considered or not. So, yeah, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you kind of understand what the seller

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<v Speaker 1>wants and submit a closing date in your offer that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of functions in accordance with that. Yeah, and just

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<v Speaker 1>being flexible because in your instance, you're talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>bumping up, but it could be the exact opposite. It

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<v Speaker 1>just depends on the seller that's oler might realize that well,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to go ahead and get it listed. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact is that they don't want to move until the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the summer. And so if you have the

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<v Speaker 1>flexibility to say, well, all right, that that works for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't need to move in until August

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<v Speaker 1>as well, your offer just became so much more valuable

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<v Speaker 1>in their eyes, and they're gonna want to lock that

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<v Speaker 1>down they can move on with their life and focus

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<v Speaker 1>on where they're gonna move next. And so these are

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<v Speaker 1>all the key points that make your offer look good

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<v Speaker 1>and attractive to a seller. Also baked into your offer

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<v Speaker 1>though our contingencies, and essentially these are like escape clauses.

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<v Speaker 1>This allows you to kind of pull that rip chord

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<v Speaker 1>just in case things kind of get dicey, because often,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the first time homebuyers, you think, well, at

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<v Speaker 1>what point can I turn back? Like is it too late?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are we agreed to purchase this home? If we

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<v Speaker 1>back down now, would we lose our earnest money that

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<v Speaker 1>we've put down? Because obviously you want your offer to

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<v Speaker 1>look really good, so you've put down a healthy amount

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<v Speaker 1>of earnest money. And so with the help of your realtor,

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<v Speaker 1>what you'll want to have done is put these contingencies

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<v Speaker 1>within your offer. And these are things like your financing,

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<v Speaker 1>inspection and appraisal contingency, Like these are all things allow

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<v Speaker 1>you to back out of the deal if these things

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<v Speaker 1>aren't met. And so, Joe, you wanna kick it off

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<v Speaker 1>with the financing continguency. Yeah, it gives you some peace

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<v Speaker 1>of mind, right, And so yeah, the financing contingency is

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<v Speaker 1>is one that you're gonna want to have in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna want to make sure that during that due

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<v Speaker 1>diligence period that with the financing contingency in place, you

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<v Speaker 1>can back out with no financial penalty to you if

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't able to secure financing from a lender. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, this due diligence period that we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that an average due diligence period lasts

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<v Speaker 1>about seven days. But make sure to ask your realtor

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<v Speaker 1>whether there is a state law that influences the length

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<v Speaker 1>of the due diligence period. It's a really important time

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<v Speaker 1>for you to kind of get your ducks in a

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<v Speaker 1>row to make sure that this is the house you

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<v Speaker 1>still want to buy. And so as you're lining up

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<v Speaker 1>your your financing, you'll want to get sort of your

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<v Speaker 1>final approval for that specific house that you're making an

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<v Speaker 1>offer on. And another thing that's important to keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind too, is that you want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't you know, gotten new credit. Like so from

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<v Speaker 1>the time you were preapproved. You know, talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous two episodes ago, the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do before you purchase a home, but you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that you're not getting new credit.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to make sure you haven't applied for a

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<v Speaker 1>new loan. Even getting a new credit card could drop

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<v Speaker 1>your credit score enough to where you might not qualify

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<v Speaker 1>for that loan that you did qualify for. Even a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks before. Yeah, it could mean the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>getting the house or not. And even if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that, it could just mean a higher interest rate

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<v Speaker 1>for you because you pulled out some new credit and

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<v Speaker 1>it dropped your credit score and therefore you don't qualify

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<v Speaker 1>for quite as good of a rate. And so another

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<v Speaker 1>huge contingency that you'll have worked into your offer is

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<v Speaker 1>the inspection contingency. And it even allows you to back

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house even completely if there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many repairs that are going to have to be done

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just more than you're willing to take on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important not to skimp on an inspection because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're typically in the realm of three five hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>could be even more depending on the size of the

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<v Speaker 1>home or whether it's a multifamily property. But just like

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<v Speaker 1>a good realtor is worth their weight in gold, so

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<v Speaker 1>is a good home inspector. You want to do your research,

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<v Speaker 1>find a good one, and it's preferable to be there

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<v Speaker 1>while the home inspector is looking through the home. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna learn a lot about the house while you're doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than you can learn just from reading

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<v Speaker 1>the report afterwards. Being there with the home inspector I

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<v Speaker 1>have found throughout the years has been really really helpful

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<v Speaker 1>to me. There was one time where I skipped altogether

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<v Speaker 1>getting a home inspector out of property I was buying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized that in the end it cost me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than that fo I saved because when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to the negotiations during the due diligence period, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a home inspection report and the claims

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<v Speaker 1>I was making. I'd had a contractor come in and

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<v Speaker 1>look at the home and he kind of gave me

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<v Speaker 1>some ideas of the things that were wrong, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was no report to go on, and so so my

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<v Speaker 1>leverage when it came to negotiating was completely stripped away.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be an example of being cheap over frugal, exactly, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt it was. It was, and I learned my lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm always having a home inspector and so many

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<v Speaker 1>of the other times when I bought a house, having

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<v Speaker 1>a home inspection just helped me so much at the

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation table, to the tune of thousands and thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And Johan, you mentioned kind of meeting with the inspector

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact, and I think that's that's incredibly important

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because in person, there's a lot more Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, that the inspector can communicate to you face

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<v Speaker 1>to face, like you look at the report and there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be things that are wrong with your house. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just facts, like, it's just how it is. And especially

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<v Speaker 1>to the first time HomeBuyer, you're gonna get that inspection

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<v Speaker 1>report and you're gonna think this house is about to

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<v Speaker 1>fall over because of all the write ups. Especially, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's alarming. Yeah, especially in older homes like we

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<v Speaker 1>tend to own in this area. But you know, meeting

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<v Speaker 1>them face to face will help you to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rank and prioritize these fixes that that need to take place,

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<v Speaker 1>versus you feeling like, oh, this house needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>bulldozed because everything seems to be broken. Yeah. Completely. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a first time home buyer sees the report

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes and and they're just totally shocked. It freaks them out.

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<v Speaker 1>And being able to look your inspector in the eye

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<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, translate this into plain English for me

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<v Speaker 1>and let me know what you actually think of the

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<v Speaker 1>home that's just so helpful for you as the buyer,

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<v Speaker 1>and the report let that be the shocking thing that

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<v Speaker 1>then allows you to make negotiations. But knowing what you

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<v Speaker 1>know kind of what the home inspector thinks overall about

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<v Speaker 1>the home is like really helpful for you as you

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<v Speaker 1>decide whether or not to move forward. Yeah, and Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned negotiating, and so that's the next step. So

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<v Speaker 1>after you have that report, essentially you can earn back

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<v Speaker 1>all that money that you spent on the inspection and

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<v Speaker 1>even more if there are some things that are aging

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<v Speaker 1>or things that are completely done maybe incorrectly on the home,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like if you have a furnace getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go out or a roof. So each one of

0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.440
<v Speaker 1>those is five thousand dollars and so that's ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars that you may have missed out on the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to negotiate down And we're big fans of getting the

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>dollar amount reduced, you know, adjusted off of the selling

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<v Speaker 1>price versus having the seller actually do that work because

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you can work with contractors that you maybe are more

0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 1>familiar with. The other thing is too, is that you

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<v Speaker 1>can have that work done on your own timeline. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like, well, it's like the roof is getting kind

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<v Speaker 1>of old, but you know they could last another three years,

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<v Speaker 1>So why not waiting another three years before we need

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to replace the roof or anything. With the furnace, it's like, Okay,

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that's an eighteen year old furnace. Chances are it's gonna

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 1>be out soon, but it's working right now, and so

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be inclined to let that furnace stay for

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.199
<v Speaker 1>another three to five, who knows, maybe ten years. But

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the fact is, you want to make sure you do

0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 1>have that money set aside for that system when it

0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 1>does eventually crash. Yeah, And most sellers they don't want

0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to be scheduling contractors and workers to come in and

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>make prepares on their house. And so if you can

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<v Speaker 1>find a sweet spot of a dollar amount off of

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the final purchase price of the home, I mean, that's

0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:31.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the best way to do it, not just

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.879
<v Speaker 1>for you, put for the seller in most cases. So

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<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind. Instead of having a laundry list

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.240
<v Speaker 1>of issues that you want the seller to address, just

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.159
<v Speaker 1>ask for money off the price of the house. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also wanted to mention to like try not to

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 1>let your emotions get the best of you, because there's

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:47.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of negotiating. There's gonna be a

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 1>lot offers going back and forth, and they're gonna say no,

0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 1>like are you crazy, you know, whatever they decide to

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 1>tell you, and it might start to feel personal, but

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact is is it's a game. They are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get the best dollar for their property, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to spend as little as possible as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is another reason that having a great agent will

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>insulate you from that a little bit, because they're used

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to taking the responses from the sellers and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>translating that into language that maybe your agent knows that

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you can handle. But yeah, just don't let it get personal.

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just about each party trying to get the best

0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.800
<v Speaker 1>bang for their buck. You're gonna want to be aware too,

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that your lender is going to order an appraisal to

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 1>assess the value of the house to make sure that

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 1>what you're paying is the same or potentially less than

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.639
<v Speaker 1>what the house is worth according to an appraiser. And

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 1>if for some reason that appraisal comes in lower than

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the agreed to purchase price, well then you have an

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>option to either back out or to renegotiate the price.

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<v Speaker 1>But just be aware that an appraisal is a standard

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that happens in pretty much every home buying situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a list of things that happened during due diligence,

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And keep in mind there's other contingencies as well, so

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>make sure you check with your your realtor on that.

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.359
<v Speaker 1>And so after the break, we're gonna talk about things

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that happen after due diligence leading up to actually closing

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:09.360
<v Speaker 1>on the house, all right, Matt, So once due diligence

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>is completely done with, you're gonna want to continue to

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 1>work with your lender and make sure they have all

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the financial documents that they need to make sure that

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you can close on time, because, to be honest, that's

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 1>a huge pain in the entire process, right is getting

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.199
<v Speaker 1>your tax returns, your W two's, everything over to your

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.000
<v Speaker 1>lender to make sure that they have all the information

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 1>they need so that you can actually buy the house. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna want to talk to your insurance agent or

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.399
<v Speaker 1>your insurance company to make sure that they know that

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you're buying this house. They can get you a quote

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.159
<v Speaker 1>on homeowners insurance and just make sure that you have

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.959
<v Speaker 1>a policy because you're gonna need that at the closing

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>table for this new home purchase and the next This

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is gonna seem kind of basic, but you want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you've got your utilities and even your mail

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled to start when you are going to close on

0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that house. At this point in the process, the date

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>has already been set for the actual closing, and so

0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to make sure that you've got those utilities

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 1>ready to go so you can maybe pick up that

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 1>pizza and go sit on the dining room floor and

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of celebrate after you close. One other really important

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 1>thing that you also want to make sure you have

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.360
<v Speaker 1>ready to go before the closing date is you want

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you have received your wiring instructions

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>so that way you can have the funds where they

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>need to be by the specific date. And Joel I

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this out of personal experience because the first investment

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 1>property that Kate and I purchased, we totally slacked. And

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's that we slacked, or if

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the lender slacked or what, but we did not receive

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the wiring instructions or if we did. We skipped over

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that email and we showed up at the closing table,

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.880
<v Speaker 1>signed all the documents and they were asking, all right,

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like we're the funds, like they should be here by now, right, dude,

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>We did not have the funds wired over and it

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>was at the end of the day, and we thought

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>we were gonna lose the deal because of this small detail,

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 1>even though it was tons and tons of money, because

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a huge John payment, but you want to

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>make sure you've got that set up. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure there's no last minute snaphoos. In our case,

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the closing attorney they just made some adjustments to the

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>all the clothes documents and everybody was super cool. We

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>were so nervous though, we thought for sure that we

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>had lost the deal. And one thing on wiring funds,

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to quickly mention that there are actually

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of scams out there. There are some sophisticated

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.439
<v Speaker 1>scammers that have figured out when individuals are closing on

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a home and they are sending an email asking for

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 1>funds to be wired and they're siphoning forty fifty sixty

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand dollar down payments from people, and there's

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>just no recourse once you get scammed and wire your

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>funds to a scam artist. And so just be aware

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.360
<v Speaker 1>when you do get an email, it's best to call

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>your agent and call the closing attorney just to make

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>sure that you have the right instructions in hand. So

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just something to kind of be aware of. Yeah,

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy, man, I've never heard of that. So now

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that we got that out of the way, let's talk

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>about the actual closing date and what someone buying a

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>home can expect. Yeah, Joe, this is like the actual

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<v Speaker 1>date that you go into sign all the documents to

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>purchase the house. And so typically this is at an

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.479
<v Speaker 1>attorney's office and they're the ones who've put together all

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the documents, all the all the legal papers, and most

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>of those are required specificically by the lender, assuming that

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 1>you're financing the house. But just be ready to spend

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>at least an hour signing form after form. There are

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>so many of them. And keep in mind to as

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you're signing all these documents, if there's something that you

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>don't understand or something that sounds kind of weird to you,

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 1>just ask the closing attorney and man and all the

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>deals that we've ever done. The closing attorneys have been

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>so incredibly patient and kind, and I guess they're just

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>used to it. They're used to focus being in there,

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>not knowing what they're doing. They're signing their names on

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>all these papers, and I found that they're really experienced

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to quickly explaining what it is that

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you're signing. All right. So a big question that most

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 1>buyers have when they're at the closing table or even

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>before is who pays for what? And usually the closing

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>costs are paid by the buyer, So if you're the

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 1>one buying the home right, you're usually paying the closing

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>costs unless you have written that into the offer. And

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in an intense market, you're typically not asking for closing

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 1>costs to be paid by the seller. But in a

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>more lax in a more buyers market, you might be

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>asking for closing costs from the seller, but just know

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that that's typically paid the buyer unless you've put that

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in the offer and it's been agreed to by the seller.

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Real turpees are typically paid by the seller, again, unless

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>something different has been made clear in the offer that

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you made earlier. Edul And additionally, those numbers should be

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>spelled out in your closing documents that you receive ahead

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of time. That way, it's not the sort of last

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>minute a bit of information that you get surprised with

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>at the closing table. Yeah, your lender is going to

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>send you essentially a closing disclosure that will fill you

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>in on all the numbers, including the exact amount that

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you are going to need to bring to the closing table,

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 1>so you know exactly how much you need to be

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>wiring uh to the closing attorney. Right Also too, we're

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about the closing table. The seller may or may

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>not be sitting directly across from you at the table.

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>It just depends. I've had friends when they purchased homes

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:44.679
<v Speaker 1>they never got to meet the seller, like they're in

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a completely different room. And most instances where we've purchased,

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>we were literally sitting across the table, and that can

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>actually be a kind of cool time to talk to

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>them and get to know little quirks and weird things

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.719
<v Speaker 1>about the house. We've gotten, like our alarm codes at

0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that point before, and we've kind of gotten the scoop

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>on neighbors that live on either side of the house

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of getting that insider information, like directly

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>from the previous owner to be really helpful and sort

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of like this cool passing of the torch. Yeah, for sure,

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I found I found it to be kind of the

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>same whether it's an investment property or a personal property.

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Just kind of talking to the previous owner is super helpful.

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>And I always like, hope they're there, right because I

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 1>learned a little bit more so once you're done, whether

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>right hand or left hand, in either hand is just

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>going to be completely destroyed at the end of closing,

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>right because you will have signed so many documents, and

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I think some closing attorneys are moving towards, you know,

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 1>more electronic signatures at the closing. That's gonna happen more

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and more. But for right now, in most instances, your

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>hand is gonna be incredibly worn out, so put some

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>ice on that. But at that point, with a fatigued hand,

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>you now are the proud owner of a house and

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that is exciting stuff. Yeah, man, that's when you get

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the keys, Like, that's the moment you've been working towards.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Right now. I mentioned this the second ago, but Pizza

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Kate and I had this tradition of after closing, we

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>would go and get a pizza, go to the new

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>place and enjoy the pizza, kind of sit on the

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>counters in the kitchen or maybe sit on the floor

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in the dining room and sell alebrate the fact that

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you've achieved this point, Like you've been working hard towards this. Obviously,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you've been saving up a lot of money for a

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>down payment, you've been looking for a house, you've gone

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>through the entire closing process, and now you get to

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you get to finally take it all in and enjoy it. Yeah,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>homebuying can feel almost like a war of attrition, and

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>so celebrating after a victory is huge because not only

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>did you just deal with the closing table and just

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of the intensity that that can be, but really, yeah,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it is having saved up for that down payment, found

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the house, gotten financing, made a solid negotiation, gotten an inspection,

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>done all those things. You've gone through the entire process,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and it is a beast of a process. And so yeah,

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you celebrate whether it's pizza or whatever. But typically, yeah,

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>all you're waiting to move all your furniture in and

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, and so pizza is just the easiest

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>way to go it's handheld foods. That's the way to

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>go after after closing, Okay, and then next you're moved

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>into the house, you're getting all settled in, you don't

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>want to forget to file for homestead exemption, and that's

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the status that you can file with your state that

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>basically lets them know that this is our primary residents,

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>we're living here are it's our homestead, and that gives

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you a huge discount on your taxes every year this

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and save you hundreds and hundreds of dollars. So don't

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>forget to do that once you've moved into your house.

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<v Speaker 1>Buying a house is an intense experience, but owning a

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<v Speaker 1>home is such a really cool feeling. We've talked before

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<v Speaker 1>about how owning a home isn't always the best investment, right,

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's because we're putting a lot of our financial

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<v Speaker 1>eggs in one basket, and a home is not something

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<v Speaker 1>that appreciates at the same rate as the stock market,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can't really consider an investment. But it can

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<v Speaker 1>be such a good move for us as humans right

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to be settled in one place, in

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<v Speaker 1>a place that we want to call home for a

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<v Speaker 1>long period of time. But it is important as we

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<v Speaker 1>think about the fact that it's not a great investment,

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that we aren't becoming house poor in

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<v Speaker 1>this process of buying a home, so that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>spending too much, because it can be a budget killer,

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<v Speaker 1>and if too much of a percentage of your income

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<v Speaker 1>is dedicated to this home purchase, it's gonna make living

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<v Speaker 1>and making your budget work every month just that much harder,

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention preventing you from reaching other financial goals

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<v Speaker 1>that you have. Yeah, Joe, I couldn't agree more a right,

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<v Speaker 1>like housing like that is still the number one expense

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<v Speaker 1>that we have built in our budgets every single month,

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<v Speaker 1>So keeping tabs on that and making sure you're keeping

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<v Speaker 1>that under control is so incredibly important. All right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's nuts to bolts, that's beginning to end.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you buy a house, right, and you do

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that's effective, that's smart, that takes

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<v Speaker 1>into account the big things and the little things to

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<v Speaker 1>put you in the best position to get a good deal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, man. So now you can just go out

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<v Speaker 1>and buy a house. Do it. Just do it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that easy, all right, man. I'm gonna kick it back

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<v Speaker 1>to the beer today. We are drinking Boulevard Brewing companies

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<v Speaker 1>Space Camper, and I'll go ahead and say, the first

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>thing I noticed about this can is it's got this

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<v Speaker 1>redheaded lady on the front of it, and she looks

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<v Speaker 1>like the girl from Wendy's Fast Food Wendy's, except she's

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<v Speaker 1>in some sort of cosmic space house. She's in the

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>space suit. But if she'll serve me a burger and

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<v Speaker 1>fries with this beer, perfect combo. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about this beer? Yeah? I felt like this was Boulevards

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>take on kind of the new style of I p

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<v Speaker 1>A that's juicier, less bitter, less ALTI and it really

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>did kind of straddle that line really nicely, this kind

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of beer that someone could go to as like an

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<v Speaker 1>everyday drinker. I just want an I p A that's

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<v Speaker 1>super good and super easy to drink. This beer kind

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of encompasses that in my opinion. Yeah, it's only at

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<v Speaker 1>five point nine alcohol, which, yeah, it's a it's a

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>fairly lighter beer and it drinks lighter to it. It's

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty refreshing in a sense. So like you said, it's

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>something that you can drink every day, and I'm totally

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>with you. It doesn't have that West Coast bitterness, so

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it makes it really easy to drink super solid juicy.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I totally dig it. Thanks to all of our friends

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>out there at Boulevard Brewing Company and especially to Hillary

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>for sending these along. All right, Matt, let's get to

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>our final thoughts for this episode of actually buying a home.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the most important things you need to

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<v Speaker 1>consider is making a strong offer, and so I think

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>we outlined pretty well what that means. There are a

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of little things you need to consider when placing

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<v Speaker 1>your offer. Those small little things can be the difference

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>between getting the house or not. And it's not always

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>even about offering the most money and really quickly. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the most important things you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't skip on during your due diligence period

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>is the inspection. Having an inspection it basically gives you

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<v Speaker 1>the footing to further negotiate down the offer price. There's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be things that you find that are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with a home, and to have that report that

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<v Speaker 1>you can refer to point to and say, hey, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that costs five thou dollars this, This

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>is gonna cost another two grade right here. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>real dollars that you're going to be able to subtract

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>from your purchase price. So make sure you pay for

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a solid inspection. Yeah, and a solid inspection might also

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>reveal that the house has too many issues that you're

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>just not willing to deal with, and it's a signal

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to you to walk away. But ultimately, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be house poor, right, Spending too much on a

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<v Speaker 1>home can be a budget killer, and having too much

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of a monthly obligation towards a home, even though owning

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>your own home can provide such a sense of satisfaction

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and the potential to have longevity in one single place,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of beauty in owning a home.

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<v Speaker 1>You also don't want to mortgage your financial future by

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<v Speaker 1>overpaying in order to get that sense of place. And

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that the largest percentage of our monthly

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<v Speaker 1>budget goes towards housing, so you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you're reining in what you're willing to spend on

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>your monthly mortgage because you want to make sure you

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>have money that allows you to do other things. Like

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<v Speaker 1>saving and investing, as well as just doing fun stuff

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like traveling and reaching your other financial goals. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>like most things in life, you want to make sure

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you find that balance. So Joel, that's gonna be it.

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