1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: R and be Money. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: A party, and the mister Jermaine j P and this. 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 4: My brother come on for intro. God damn. 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: Got to be right. 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 5: So they go back to the hip hop ship that 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 5: you wanted to do it Yeah, okay, okay with. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: It something like, Brian, I guess we gotta come up 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 4: with you know, we gotta do some up tempo fun. 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 4: This is what they want to do. Now I'm not 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 4: writing it either, so it's making it harder for me 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 4: because I can't use my ideas. Right, I know that 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: they write, So I gotta just come up with a 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: beat a track to sound like something. And I got 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: up old guitar at my house, out of key guitar, 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: and Brian started playing with it and fucking with it, 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, we should use that. He's like 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 4: what this guitar. I'm saying like make it getting key 19 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 4: or whatever, and I'm a sample your licks and he 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: started playing with a party at Lix and the guitar 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, just it. I started making taking 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: the parts, making a beat, and then Jay come over 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: to the studio and they start singing and they start 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: going I'm like, oh yeah, this sounded like it, this 25 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: gonna be. 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: It right here? 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: Hey, where the party at. I'm like, dann, this song 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: needs something though it still ain't. It ain't all the 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: way there yet. And by the way, I never used 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: no artists outside of my artists to break to do 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: anything like that. 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Right. 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: So, but they like, yo, get Nelly on the song 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: Nellie smoking hot at this time, I'm like, getting Nelly 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: on the song? 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: You sure? 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, that's your boy? What you thinking about? 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Call that? 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: Nigga? I called Nelly universal two fifty. 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: In a dumble bag. 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: I said what I said? 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 5: What ain't no trains, nothing that can't no bartery to fifty. 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: I never had paid that type of money for a 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: million for a feature. 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Nelly's on top. 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 6: Of the world. 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: They said two fifty, You're a diamond nigga. I said, damn. Now, 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 4: I got to call Columbia because I'm like, listen, hey, hey, hey, listen. 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: So so but Colombia's they they stoked because they jagged 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 4: jagget the remix. Let's get married? Is Peak doing some shit? 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: Yeah? 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: They so they see now they see light with Jack. 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: They like you what you got? I'm like, I got 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: a song. I just got to put Nelly on it, 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: and I feel like we can we can follow up. 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: Let's get married with this song. You put Nelly on 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: the record, it's a go. He's like, all right, well, 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: what you wanna do? I said, we gotta give two fifty. 59 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 4: They said two fifty. What I said, you gotta send 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 4: them two hundred fifty thousand dollars. He gonna go in 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: the studio. Donniana's like, Okay, let's do it. Let's go ahead. 62 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like this, this is gonna 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: this is gonna do it for him. I say, yeah, 64 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: so you get the verse from Nelly. I think the 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: song is a hit. I go to back, I go 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: to New York play the song for Donniana and he 67 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: listened to the song. He's like, it's cool. It ain't 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: there yet. I'm like, what you got, Nelly? We got 69 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: all these different parts. It's going He's like something, it's 70 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: just ain't. Damn, it's something. Ain't. It's still missing something. 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: So I come back home. I call the guys to 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: the studio. I'm like, yo, he said, a song missing someth. 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Man. 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: Fuck, we don't know what you talking about. 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: You know what? 76 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: I mean, so it's like all that. I'm like, man, 77 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: we gotta we gotta listen to him and say it's 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: missing something. We gotta figure out what is missing. And 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 4: then wingoes like, so we start having a conversation about 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 4: party things that happened at the party. What is the 81 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: thing that call him repeat that happens at a party, 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: that happens all the time at the party, right, put 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 4: your hands up, let's sad for your hand dude. My 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: lady's running this motherfuck us. And we start just bringing 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: all the ideas of like what happens at the party. 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: We put that on the song. So this is not 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 4: on the initial we put that part. We figured that 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: part out, put that on the song. I go back 89 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 4: to New York the next week, I play it for Donnie. 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: He's like, that's it, And I'm like, are you fucking serious? 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: Like this is eight bars to just us my east 92 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: side run this mother, He's like, that's it. You got it. 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 4: Y'all figured it out and where the party at gone? 94 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 6: Gone? 95 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: The art of making records, but it's also right. 96 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: It's also. 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 7: The respect of like listening to a guy say you're 98 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 7: close and taking all of your your producer ego and 99 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 7: writer ego. 100 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: You're the things, the success that you've already had. 101 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 7: But to that point, taking that out of the picture 102 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 7: and say, hey man, there's got to be another level 103 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 7: we can get to. This guy says, there's another level 104 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 7: we can get to. Let's let's let's fucking find it. 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 106 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm always I'm determined to find it. I 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: hate when people tell me though it's not that, but 108 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: I I trusted they saying it for a reason. Right 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 4: fast forward two thousand. I think we we because we 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: from I think the last album at my house, my 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: mother's house, was jay E heartbreak Fast forward two thousand. 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: I built my studio south Side. The first record we 113 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: make in south Side is we start on Usher's first 114 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 4: second album, third album. Basically, the first song we write 115 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: when we move into that studio is you got it bad? 116 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: So he's gonna pay for the studio. 117 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: This so Brian. I heard him say this on when 118 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: he was here. He wanted to work with Usher is 119 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: so bad. He didn't know he was gonna get the 120 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: opportunity to work with Ushier. I called him like man, 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: he would do jacket desh. He ain't know if I 122 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: was gonna keep using him. He thought, you know, he 123 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: did jacket desh. He ain't know whatever. I called him. 124 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I gotta start on this Usher record. 125 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 4: I need you come over. He come to south Side. 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: We started working and I'm like, we gotta do an 127 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: extension of Nice and Slow. I'm saying like Nice and 128 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: Slow was like about it. People love it. Brian was 129 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: in love with nice and Low. I was like, I 130 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: want this next song to sound like it's that. It's 131 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: right there, but it's a something else. 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Right. 133 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: It sounded like something else. So we started writing you 134 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: Got It Bad, and we're making the music. I'm not 135 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: even I don't have the lyrics yet. And then Usher 136 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: come to the studio and Usher got a girl. Matter 137 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: of fact, we had another song. 138 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: I think we had. 139 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: We was working on another song. Matter of fact. That's 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: how we got to it. Was working on another song. 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: He was in the studio, so the girl called him 142 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: on the phone. He hang up. They're going at it. 143 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, what's wrong, man? Can we get this fucking song? 144 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: You know I'm watching the through that. I'm like, can 145 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: we get the song? 146 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Guy? 147 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: He like shit, i'ma I'll be back right in the middle. 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: Of the session. So the girl got him fucked up right, 149 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: And all I could sit there and think about was 150 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: this nigga got it bad, like you've got you got it, 151 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: you got it bad, you got it bad. And I 152 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: just start putting every pieces that I saw him do. 153 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: I started writing them, and I started thinking like and 154 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: I called him when he left, I said, come back, 155 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: I got it. He came back. I had this song. 156 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: I ain't got what you call right back? 157 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 7: You hate I hate this. This nigga is so good. 158 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: But you know the other part that I've noticed, your 159 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: humility in all of it is what makes it, in 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: my opinion, just from the outside looking in, is what 161 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 5: makes it work because you're never above the song, You're 162 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 5: never above the situation. In all of these hit records, 163 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 5: you keep saying I was a pressure, all right, nigga, 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: I didn't know you know what I'm saying it was. 165 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 5: It's not you know, because you understand we've been in 166 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 5: music forever. We've done it one hundred and fifty interviews. 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 5: You see when certain niggas is like, the humility may 168 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: not be there, right, And that's cool, that's fine, iever 169 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: that works for you. But what I've found in talking 170 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 5: to you, is that you get out of the way 171 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 5: of of all the bullshit and just fucking write a 172 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: great song. Just write the record, even if you got 173 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 5: a tweak it, even if you got like all of 174 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 5: these things that sometimes as we become successful, you do 175 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 5: people do less and less self auditing. What you mean, 176 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: what you mean, nigga, go buy somebody else record. 177 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Then you're saying no, no, no, no, I'm gonna figure this. 178 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: Out because that does None of that worked for me. 179 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: It worked for me. Is your reaction. If I play 180 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: a song you don't react, I know it ain't no hit. 181 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: That's it. 182 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna argue with I might think it's 183 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: a hit, I'm still not gonna argue with it, because 184 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying that reaction is what. That's what, that's what. 185 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: That's all I got, that's all I know. If you 186 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: and I'll keep going till I find that reaction, till 187 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 4: you give me that reaction, I'm not gonna stop on 188 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: every project. That's what I have to get. I have 189 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: to have that reaction, the same reaction that I got 190 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: on every record. It got to be the same thing. 191 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: Somebody gotta come from the back somebody gotta jump in. 192 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: Somebody gotta do something. If they don't, If they don't 193 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: do that, that song is not coming out. It ain't that. 194 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 4: Ain't that ain't the song. Nope, that ain't it. I 195 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: don't care how niggas jumping around in the studio. That ain't. 196 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: I got to see somebody, somebody else, got to show 197 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: me the natural reaction. They gotta show me a natural 198 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: reaction before I actually believe. It's a goal still to 199 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: this day, still to this day. So so where y'all 200 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: want to go next? I'm guy ready to tell y'all 201 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: got no La was here and I saw LA, but 202 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: I was gonna say that what you said about I mean, 203 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: oh you both of y'all saying about me, not like 204 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: really cared about what people you know what I mean, 205 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: I always get knocked down, So I'm already it's not 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: like JD. 207 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: We believe you. 208 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: It's almost like my success. They used my success against 209 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: me to be like you can't eat I bet you 210 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: can't do that shit again. You think you got. 211 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Another one of them? 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 4: You think you got another one of. 213 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Them in there? Yeah? 214 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: Right, So I'm always mentally I'm going into the studio 215 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: already thinking like these niggas don't believe we could do 216 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: it again. We gotta do it, we gotta find it, 217 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: we gotta do it. That's all that mattered to me. 218 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: I'm not thinking about nothing else, none of that use, 219 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: none of that shit matter, even to the song go 220 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: No One Cool. It went number one. They want to 221 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: know if we could do it again, right, so you 222 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: got it bad came out eighty seven oh one, popping 223 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: whatever whatever, And then it's time to make USh a 224 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 4: new album, right, which confessions and me and us should 225 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: go to LA's house and we pull up to la 226 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: house and we have I think we did. We started, 227 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: we made a song and we go in there and 228 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: play the song for him and he's like, nah, this 229 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 4: ain't it. And he was like He's like, Usha, you're 230 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 4: not You're not interesting enough. Like people, they don't care 231 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: about you till your album come out. And when your 232 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: album come out, that's when people care about you. Then 233 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: when the songs go away, you go away. Y'all need 234 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: to write something that's interesting that make people want to 235 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: think about you. Things like you need to get a 236 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: girlfriend or something. He said, all kind of wold shit. 237 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 4: I'm just sitting there listening, like, damn, the man I 238 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: just told this nigga he not interesting. He just sold 239 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: like five million records. Cool, But I also understand what 240 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: he's saying. I also understand, like, Yo, you know, you 241 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: make a record, the promotion got you popping, But that 242 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: it's that in between ship. People don't know who USh is. 243 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: People don't they don't, they don't. They don't connect with 244 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: you as like doing some regular ship and this you 245 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: know rappers is coming out. You see the rappers doing. 246 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: It's more reality type of thing, and we go back 247 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: to the studio. We both like fucked up. I'm like, 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: this man just told us, man to his face, you're 249 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: not interesting enough. And when I heard him saying, my 250 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: mind start trying to figure out what can I write 251 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: to make this nigga interesting? What can I do to 252 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: make him interest? How do we make this nigga interesting 253 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: through music? So I'm on more like it's like, yo, 254 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 4: you should get it. You should you know, start dating 255 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: the hot girl, find it. 256 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: You know. 257 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: I mean to do some ship that's like more internet driven. 258 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: I'm not thinking about the music. There's no way in hell, right, 259 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 4: So we start trying to work on the records, and 260 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: then he tells me that the girl that he was 261 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: dating it's over with, but it's feels like it's burning 262 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 4: his soul. Like, man, feels like it's burning me burning. 263 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: It's like it's like a burning feeling that I have. 264 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: And I'm like, what I'm thinking, like nigga burning. 265 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 7: Like, yeah, I come through, bring your penicilin wherever your need. 266 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: So he's saying this, that's the first thing coming to 267 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: my mind. I'm like burning. He's like, yeah, man, make 268 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: something that got that burning in there. Say something about 269 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: me burning or something like this. And I'm thinking, like, 270 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: I don't even know where this nigga at with this ship. 271 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: I don't know what we're at with this. I can't. 272 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: I can't. I ain't never felt the burning feeling, right, 273 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: I'm not. I can't get into them that space. He like, 274 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: I gotta go say, he runs out the studio. He 275 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: left me with the burn an idea, and I'm saying, like, 276 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: I'm trying to flip the word to me and many things. 277 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: I'm writing sentences to see what make it sound like 278 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: it's cool, like burn. I don't know how this was 279 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: gonna work. And then it just hit me I was like, 280 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: let it burn, let it burn, Like right, so I 281 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: start I get it. I'm like, yeah, I got it, 282 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: I got it. He come back to the studio, he listened. 283 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about. 284 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, cool. We were on a rail 285 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: to this new album. 286 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Yea. 287 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: Then the next day he comes and say, man, you know, 288 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: I don't think we should work in Atlanta. And I'm 289 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: superstitious about leaving Alana, right right, and I just got 290 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: my studio, just the new studio. We just got the 291 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: new stud You want to go somewhere else. He's like, yeah, man, 292 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: we should go to La. Man, y'all should come out 293 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: to La and we should do it. I'm like, nah, 294 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, we just got lety Bron. Let's let's go. Nah, 295 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm too distracted in Atlanta. I'm like, all right, cool, 296 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: I come out here, me and Brian comes here us. 297 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: Should we meet him at Brandon's Way? And we don't 298 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: really know what we're doing, right? We just in there 299 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: rush once again. He come in, he say whatever, he say, 300 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: he got ideas. Whatever he leaves, I'm like, ship Broun, 301 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: we got La told his nigga. He wasn't he wasn't interesting. 302 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: We got to start trying to make some music that 303 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: that feel like. We gotta make him interesting. 304 00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 305 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: I don't know how what that's supposed to sound like, 306 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 4: but I'm just like, we gotta make something. This gotta 307 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: feel like. People got to you gotta have some kind 308 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: of little drumma to it. 309 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: Right. 310 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 4: So my homeboy used to be saying all bad. He 311 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: was like, man, that's all bad. This ship all bad, 312 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 4: everything all bad. So I'm like, all bad. Everything that 313 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: I've been doing is all bad. I got a chick 314 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: on the side with the crib and the ride. I've 315 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: been telling you so many lives ain't nothing good. It's 316 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: all bad. I just want to confess I've been doing 317 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 4: it so long. They put the beat up, let's go 318 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 4: till Brian started playing the chords. I'm like, I got it. 319 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: You start doing everything it's all bad. I got a 320 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: chick on the side of the crib and the rider 321 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: telling you so many lines ain't nothing good, It's all bad. 322 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: I got the hook, and then I wanted to be 323 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: a writer, so I said I write his block. You 324 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: know that's bullshit, rights block to some bush but niggas 325 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: that right, they said, just as like a way to 326 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: get away from the song. You't you don't really have 327 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 4: writers you right, You can just write about anything you 328 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: want to. It might not sound good, but you still 329 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 4: can write, right. You don't just have complete block. Right, 330 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 4: So I said, I have writer's block. I'm like, Brian, 331 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 4: just give me, give me the burn the CD. I 332 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: got my Lamborghini out here in l A. Right, I'm 333 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: like ship, I'm gonna get ready, I'm standing, I'm staying 334 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: a malleable. Yeah, I'm good. I get I get to get. 335 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: I put the CD in the in the car and 336 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm going down Beverly and I'm thinking about Kais. I 337 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: don't know why I'm thinking about k but I'm thinking 338 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: about k And I'm thinking about the movie Usual Suspects. 339 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: And Kazoose was in the when he went to the jail. 340 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 4: He looked around the room and he made a story 341 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: up of everything he saw. It was on the wall, 342 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: and he made all the shit just go. He figured 343 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 4: out how to make everything that he saw in that 344 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: room work to his story. And I'm driving and I'm like, shit, 345 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 4: I might try to do that. Let me shot this. 346 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: Let's try this kizosose shit and I stop it to 347 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: light and I'm like, every time I was in La, 348 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: I'm with my ex girlfriend. Every time you call up 349 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: to your baby, I'm running. No, I was not doing 350 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: my work. Oh think about you getting hurt. I was 351 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: hand in hand in the Beverly Center. It's right there. 352 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: Damn yes, yeah, yeah. 353 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 4: Oh. If I wouldn't have been here, none of them 354 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 4: words would have been in that song. I would have 355 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 4: never been in La. I was here in La. I'm 356 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: writing the song as I'm seeing what's going on, you 357 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: know what I mean? And this verse, this verse goes 358 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: to all bad. This this, this verse goes to the 359 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: all bad song. It's not even Confessions yet. This is 360 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm writing this to 361 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: everything that I've been doing this all bad. This is 362 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: the first verse of all Bad. I told them niggas 363 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 4: I had writer's block. But by the time I passed 364 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: the Beverly Center, I had the whole verse doing. I 365 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: was ready to go back to the studio. They had left. 366 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: So I'm like, God, damn, now I gotta wait till 367 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: tomorrow to try to cut the ship. But I'm singing 368 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: this ship all the way down. P. H, I'm I'm 369 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 4: I'm writing the whole song all the way down. P 370 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: I'm flying, but I'm listening and I'm saying, I got 371 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: it this ship right here, so come back tell us 372 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 4: hear it? Yeah, we're fucking with it? Cool, all right? 373 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: All right? 374 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: But what happened after that? That's what he say. I'm like, 375 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: what do you mean, woul happened after that? 376 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: In the movie? 377 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, what's gonna happened after you? You know, you 378 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: got to check on the side what happened with it? 379 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: And just so happened that my real life, my real life, 380 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: this is happening. 381 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: You know. 382 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: I got a girl pregnant, and I had to tell 383 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 4: my girlfriend that I had a girl at the time. 384 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: I had to tell my girlfriend at the time that 385 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 4: I got a girl pregnant that I barely even knew, right, 386 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: And I called my homeboy and I'm like, Yo, how 387 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: do I tell my girl this? He's like, you gotta 388 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: call her and tell her. I'm like, shit, now, I'm 389 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 4: gonna just lead on answer machine. I'm calling. I'm gonna 390 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 4: just call and leave it on answer machine. So I 391 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: called her. I left a message on answer ma sin 392 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: she called me back. She wanted to know all the 393 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: information about it. What, how, what? And I'm just like, 394 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 4: I'm fucked up. I'm actually not even thinking about the 395 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: song no more. I'm just asking I'm in this real life. 396 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: So then Usher and Mark come to the studio and 397 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: they're like, man, we gotta make part two of this. 398 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: It's gotta what's gonna happen? The girl gotta get pregnant. 399 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, I know this too well, this 400 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: is too this is too easy, Like this story. You 401 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 4: really want me to say this? It's like, yeah, what 402 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 4: is the story? And I'm like, okay, these are my confession. 403 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: Just when I thought I said all like I said, 404 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: the chick on the side say she got one on 405 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 4: the way. Man, I'm throwing and I don't know what 406 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: to do. I guess I gotta give y'all part two, My. 407 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 7: Confessions, part two because they asked for a part too. 408 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: Because they asked for a part two, Yep, we wouldn't 409 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: even made that that song. Confessions would have never came 410 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 4: out if they didn't ask for a part two. The 411 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: song was all bad, that's what then? What the song was? 412 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: I mean, it's on that's what's on the album It's 413 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: All Bad, which but I say, I confess I've been 414 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: doing you so wrong. I say it in that song. 415 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 4: So that's how it became. Like that's when I start 416 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: connecting it, like these are my confessions. I just took 417 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 4: that part from that song and put it into that. 418 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: But it was like this was and by the way, 419 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: this is a remix of All Bad basically of a 420 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 4: song that nobody ever heard. It never worked, like these 421 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 4: records never came out. 422 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: We just made were already on the part two. 423 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, we made part two before the song even came out. 424 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 5: And that's how you get the number one on be 425 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 5: a Record of the Century. That's how you get that 426 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 5: because congratulations on that too. 427 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 6: I'm thinking give me yeah. 428 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: But it's the life in the song. 429 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you gotta live writer, You gotta gotta 430 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: live writer. 431 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: It's not gonna. 432 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 7: Always be pretty. That's always my advice. Just write your life. 433 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 7: There's gotta be something going on. Don't make it too 434 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 7: hard on yourself. 435 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: And going on, get something something that you're not interesting 436 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: lining up. I mean, it's a bunch of things that 437 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 4: went into Confessions. Him telling us that usher, telling me 438 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 4: about the burning thing we getting to l A like 439 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: I said, it was just like and then them asking 440 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: for part two of All Bad, like, what's the continuation 441 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: of this song? We gotta make a continuation of this song. 442 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, well, I know this story 443 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: pretty fast. Let's just start coming out like this like 444 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: clock like super you're talking that. I think I wrote 445 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: that song in like five minutes. 446 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 5: I never forget coming to Atlanta, flying in to go 447 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: see my partners care, going up to hit Cole him 448 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: playing me Byron and I'm like. 449 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: Nigga, what the fuck is this? 450 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 5: Like yeah, nigga, this is this that ship Nigga, Nigga jad 451 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 5: and that's your back here, nigga. 452 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 4: You know it's that ship all the time telling you nigga. 453 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, so, when are you coming out? He's like yeah, 454 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: this ain't the single though, I said, what what what? 455 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 456 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: Nigga? 457 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: I've heard everything I need to hear. You're out of here. 458 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: I thought that was a single too, by the way, 459 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, this is the single. L A l 460 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: As like, Nah, that ain't a single. I'm like, man, 461 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 4: this nigga's different. This niggas different. 462 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 5: But it's it's continuous chess is y'all. He's he's setting 463 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: the chess board in a certain way. He because as 464 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 5: an executive, you have to be able to see something 465 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 5: that the creatives maybe don't fully see yet. 466 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, it ain't my label. So I 467 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 4: just start falling back like this your label. I just 468 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 4: making music. You do what you want to do it 469 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: that's what you feel like, then cool. When I saw 470 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: the track listing for for Confessions, he took All Bad 471 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: off the album. 472 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: So then I'm like, how did it make sense? 473 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, people don't even gonna know about the first 474 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 4: part of the song. I don't care about the first 475 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 4: part of the song. This is the song. So then 476 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: they shot the video for it, and they put the 477 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: first verse from All Bad at the beginning of part 478 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 4: two video. So then they made the song go like this, 479 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: that verse is not in that song. 480 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: No, No, it's not. 481 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 482 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 7: Don't say that man put that on something, put that 483 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 7: on something. 484 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: He was in full Michael Muther. 485 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that whole we did all that here in 486 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: LA call and oh that's a real phone call. Oh 487 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: and yeah, l A scraped LA didn't put all bad 488 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: on the first release of Confessions, so all people heard 489 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: was Confessions Too. And I thought that was crazy because 490 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, we sang in the song I'm gonna give 491 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: you Part two, we have part one, but it didn't 492 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: make it. 493 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 7: Is it accidental genius that you end up having to 494 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 7: circle back to it and and that is now new 495 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 7: interest in a re release or even in the video 496 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 7: for that matter. 497 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy to think of it like that. 498 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 499 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: And it worked work. 500 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: It worked like the Star Wars thing, like the Star Wars, 501 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 4: like the way they wrote Star Wars backwards backwards, right, 502 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 4: So it's like the same type of mentality. 503 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 7: And well, the first was that on you don't you 504 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 7: don't have to call what the first single from that one. 505 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: No, you don't have to call Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, 506 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. 507 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 5: I always called to me, I always called that sugar 508 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: on the vegetables. Right, It's like when you have kids. 509 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: We all got kids, how do you get your kids 510 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 5: to eat vegetables? 511 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: Something? 512 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: You gotta give them something sweeter. 513 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 5: You got to give them something with it that makes 514 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 5: them take in the ship that they need. And that's 515 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 5: how I looked at the body of work of Confessions. 516 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 5: Was the ship that the world needed from an R 517 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: and B artist? I felt like, yeah, it was the Yeah, 518 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 5: it was. 519 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: The dangling carrot. 520 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 5: I want the world to come in and now y'all 521 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 5: getting this ship though, Yeah, you get what I'm saying. 522 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: That was the only thing like that on the album. 523 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it actually doesn't matter the album. 524 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: But it's was a hell of a commercial. 525 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: It made everybody. 526 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a super Bowl times an. 527 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: Amazing record, amazing record, but it does not the album. 528 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean what it does, but it don't. 529 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: No, I don't know, had nothing. 530 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: To do with the confession. 531 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, because the rest of that is like, is that 532 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 7: like the party after I get done? 533 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: It's core R and B. 534 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: Yes, not core R and B. 535 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: Yes, new R and B. 536 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: Everything else is core. 537 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 5: R from the records that you did, the records that 538 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 5: Draanva Dow did, Jimmy Jim Taylor, Like, this is an 539 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 5: R and B R and B album and yeah, it's 540 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: like what the fuck? Yeah, like you said, it's the commercial. 541 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 5: Let's bringing everybody in. It's the shock value. 542 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: It's definitely shock value on a hold on left. 543 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 7: I'm so angry whatever you was, because it's like SnO competing. 544 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 7: I had done my little Dirty South record with cash money. 545 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 7: I was like R and B Dirty South collapse. I'm 546 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 7: about to kill him. Ship out to go. 547 00:29:51,400 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: Crazy, dud, he said, dud, dud get himself. 548 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 7: Like Paul, You like a thug, drinks up in the 549 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 7: sky like thugs. 550 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: No sparkle, no sparkle, spark nobody ain't nobody run from 551 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: That's what problem problem. 552 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Fresh told me. 553 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: I was sweet, though, Fresh, like you have fun? 554 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Do you that ship? 555 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: Nigga? 556 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: You're killing that ship. The baby came around, so I said, nigga, 557 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: you can't tell. 558 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: Me the same. 559 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 7: That wasn't that I needed you, j What were you say? 560 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: I went to call and say, did anybody look like 561 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: they liked that song? 562 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 7: And then that song came out and I'm in the 563 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 7: I'm in the club on the Breer in Hollywood? What 564 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 7: did they call that club? Then eating my Heart? 565 00:30:49,360 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 8: Okay boom, yeah, yeah, yeah. 566 00:30:59,880 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: I. 567 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 7: Don't think I had a good time that night. Fucking 568 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 7: ever for everybody, nigga, yeah, everybody. Sorry, there's too much. 569 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 7: There's too much. How do you feel about because you're 570 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 7: like you're always you the cool nigga that people that 571 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 7: you guys see it. It's always you. It's never too high, 572 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 7: it's never too low. Nigga come like nigga, got no 573 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 7: more record. That's that's that's that, that's dope. Thank you 574 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 7: appreciate it. It's this, how do you feel about being? 575 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 7: First of all, you're one of two in the Hall 576 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 7: of Fame, But what's you're what you've accomplished in music? 577 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 7: You're you're one of you were one of one. How 578 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 7: do you feel about that? Do you feel like you 579 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 7: can bang on your chest at times and appreciate yourself? 580 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: No? 581 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: Because the people that idolized they did more with less. 582 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: Hm m hmm. 583 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: Explain that Motown, you know what I mean? Barry took 584 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: with eight hundred dollars from a bank and made more 585 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: Town eight hundred dollars. 586 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the equivalent to. 587 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: A lot, even eight hundred dollars. There's a lot of thousand, 588 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars, borrow money, borrow money, put all of 589 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: these writers and people inside this house, has mother cooking 590 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 4: the food, and made everybody sitting there. And he made 591 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: Molte Town records with. 592 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: Things that were just connected to his block too. 593 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 7: Though, Yeah, I don't disagree with that. 594 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: I don't. 595 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue with it. 596 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 7: I'm not even gonna say, but I just want to say, 597 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 7: you wrote and produced and then performed Breg Gordy did 598 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 7: with Breg Gordy? Did you my friend? Were you were 599 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 7: Smokey Robinson, you were also whatever band he called in 600 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 7: to do the instrumentation, and then you were also Barry Gordy. Again, 601 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 7: I respect, I respect your answer, but only you. No, 602 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 7: not just rap. 603 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 5: And rmy and army and pop and pop bro, like 604 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 5: the things that you've done in this in this business. 605 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 5: Once again, you've been the first to us. You know, listen, 606 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 5: I'm I'm all. 607 00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm with all this. 608 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 5: I'm with all our arguments. Axon argue all they want to. 609 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 5: You can't argue with me about Jermaine Dupris. That's why 610 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 5: we want you on this show so bad, bro, because 611 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 5: you are that important to us, and it bothers me. 612 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: That you don't get as much credit as you deserve. 613 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't care if you care about it or not. 614 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 5: I'm talking about me caring about it and somebody who 615 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 5: love this shit that we all do, that we give 616 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 5: our lives. 617 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: To yeah, I mean I have I have come to 618 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 4: the realization of why that is. 619 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 6: Though. 620 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 4: When you don't have a two then the people don't 621 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 4: have no conversation about it. Right, So it's not like 622 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: you just said, it's not another Jermaine Dupre in the 623 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: music industry, not today, and it wasn't you know before. 624 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: So then when people like try to you, you know, 625 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: like everybody always tried to pit me against Puff. That's 626 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 4: the person that they thought was the closest to me. Right, 627 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: I've been telling niggas the whole time. Me and Puff 628 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 4: is not alike. Like, you know, he don't write songs. 629 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 4: I write songs. He don't do He don't make the beats. 630 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 4: He don't do half of the shit that I do. 631 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 4: He's a great producer in the mentality of how he 632 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 4: here music. But that's the only person that people have 633 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 4: ever pitted against me. 634 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: Right. 635 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: They ain't never put Rodney Jerkins against me, They ain't 636 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 4: never put none of these other guys. Puff is the 637 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: guy that they said JD trying to be like Puff, 638 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, they try to put us 639 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 4: against each other, and I just start realizing, like if 640 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 4: it's if you only got one person and they ain't 641 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 4: really no other person that they can compare to. Then 642 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 4: they not even gonna have the conversation. They're just gonna start. 643 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: They gonna just like not even talk about you, you 644 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I've seen what y'all did 645 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 4: with la he had him and Face Jimmy Terry. Right, 646 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: it's one and two, like you get go here, you 647 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: go there, you can go here, go there. When you 648 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: come see me, whatever you get after that ain't gonna 649 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 4: be like what you get from me. It just ain't. 650 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: It ain't gonna be like that. And I think that's 651 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 4: what I think. That's why people people have It's not 652 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: a lot of that going on in the world where 653 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 4: you only have one. And I just that's just what 654 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 4: it is. And I realized this when I went into 655 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, because the Hall of Fame is 656 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 4: a writers for the last forty years or even longer, 657 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 4: maybe fifty years of writing. And I'm looking at all 658 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: these writers and I'm like, you know what, I'm different. 659 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: And that's the first time it dawned on me that 660 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 4: I was different. Because Babyface don't got no number one 661 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 4: rap song. Jimmy Jamey Terry Lewis don't have no number 662 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: one rap song, La REI don't have no number one 663 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 4: rap song, right. I have number one rap songs right, 664 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 4: not alone these R and B records. I got number 665 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: one rap songs that Quincy never had. Quincy, you know, 666 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 4: he never had number one rap song, like you said, 667 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 4: Berry Gordy never had no they never had number one 668 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: rap song. So that's what That's the day that I realized, Oh, 669 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm trying to be like them, but I'm 670 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 4: actually different. Right, That's the first time it hit me. 671 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 4: So it took a long time for me to even 672 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 4: realize that, you know what I mean, Like because I 673 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 4: just put all of it together. I never paid no 674 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 4: attention to it. But like you know, he ain't got 675 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 4: no pulling me back. He ain't got you know, that's 676 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 4: a number one record with Chingy and Tyrese, right, they 677 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: don't got them songs. That's why I kept saying, like 678 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 4: when niggas was like me doing versus, I'm like y'all, niggas, 679 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 4: I get it, y'all think that y'all know what's going on. 680 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 4: But I'm saying I'm gonna start pulling out records that 681 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 4: you ain't even you're not even really bringing it too, 682 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 4: you know, you're not even thinking about it. No talk shit, 683 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 4: it's not like that. It's just like people leave it out. 684 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 4: It's like you just leaving the stuff out, you know 685 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 4: what I mean. 686 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: Like that's what this space is for. 687 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 4: What they're talking ship. 688 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 7: This space is to let motherfuckers know. In case you 689 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 7: didn't know, y'all must have forgotten y'all. 690 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: Now y'all know what it is. 691 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 4: Yes, now y'all know what it is. Yeah, No, for real, 692 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: It's like it's not It's not a bunch of people 693 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 4: that first one hundred writers talk right, and then writing 694 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 4: the whole concept of song, then producing the song. That's 695 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 4: just not happening. 696 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: It's not happening. So back to my one of one. 697 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: I take that. 698 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 4: I take it. 699 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: That isn't here are your money? We write is what 700 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: it is. 701 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 5: It's always happen before we had this platform. You know 702 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 5: that studios niggas started talking about this. 703 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: Hey man, you made the pre dog. 704 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 4: By the way, you got it bad. I told the 705 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 4: story before you got it bad. It was like a 706 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 4: battle between me and Rodney Jerkins because I think I 707 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 4: don't know Rodney and Michael was in the studio during 708 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 4: Your Rock My World and me and Usher was Usher 709 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 4: and Brown. I mean, yeah, he's doing you got it bad? 710 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 4: And Michael called to the studio or something like that. 711 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 4: They called to the studio and they was like, what 712 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 4: y'all over there doing? 713 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: Michael called to the studio and that's what y'all doing? 714 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Him and Rodney Jerkins, they was on the phone 715 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 4: like some had some kind of way this happened. I 716 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 4: don't know why it happened, but he called. They called 717 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 4: the studio. Yeah, and I put on a speakerphone right 718 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 4: because Usher was there so you could hear it. And Uh, 719 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: Rodney was like, what y'all over there working on? Michael's like, yeah, 720 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 4: what y'all working on? And uh I said, I'm sure. 721 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 4: I said, I'm doing Usher and the nigga Michael said, who? 722 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 4: Usher's on the speaker for him, And I'm like, oh, 723 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 4: this niggas thirty. This nigga just said who? You know 724 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 4: the fuck Usher is? 725 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: Nigga? Right right? 726 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 4: Mike knew everything that was going and he's like, yeah, 727 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 4: He's like who, And I'm like, did he just say? 728 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 6: Who? 729 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: Said? 730 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,959 Speaker 4: I got mad? I'm mad as a month I'm mad 731 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: for usher, right, I'm like right, he man, fuck this ship. 732 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 4: We got a song right now that's better than your 733 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 4: whole album. Yeah, I'm just I just shot my gun. 734 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 4: But you got it bad as I'm sitting on you 735 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 4: got it bad? Yeah, and you know I was. I 736 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 4: was that that. That's what fueled me that day, Like, man, 737 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 4: I gotta that's all. I'm just fueled by, like the competition. 738 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 4: You know, social death is created because you death. But 739 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 4: I'm so so much definitely, that's how the company, that's 740 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 4: where the name comes from. It's like, it's about the competition. 741 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: I like that. I love it. I love it. I 742 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: like that a lot. 743 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 4: It's just about I'm just about competition. I'm into the 744 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: competitive nature of making music and the fight of it. 745 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 4: Like let's go, let's see what, let's get in, let's 746 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 4: do it, let's get in the ring. 747 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 5: Then you've had all the success, right, And I mean 748 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 5: I know the answer to it because you said it's 749 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 5: the competitive nature. But for you then to say, you 750 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna make some new R and B 751 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 5: for y'all too. I'm gonna go in with our Lennox. 752 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna make this pressure after I going with our Lennox, 753 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go in with money loan, and I'm gonna 754 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 5: make this made for me. Like, the ship does not stop. 755 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 5: Bro Like, when people say, oh, well a person can 756 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 5: only do this for so long, they were not talking 757 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 5: about Germaine Dupris at all, especially in urban music. 758 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: You know this. 759 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 5: It started off with you being too young but at 760 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 5: a certain at a certain stage, and this business is, oh, 761 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 5: this is you can't do it, way too old, and 762 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 5: you proved them wrong in both spaces. You did not 763 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 5: stop making hit records, bro Like, you have current records 764 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 5: right now made for me. 765 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: It just literally held the year in the choo. 766 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah we won that Grammy too, Yes, yes, yes. 767 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 5: Come on, bro Like, and and what's that thirty years 768 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 5: since your first hit? 769 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Insane, insane, insane. 770 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 4: But I mean, like I said, I just I just 771 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 4: don't get into the I don't get into I understand 772 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 4: that one hit record only pushes people to ask you 773 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 4: if you could do it again, So therefore I never 774 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 4: get into the success of records. I just get into 775 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 4: the Okay, let's go. 776 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: You know how many hit records you have? No? 777 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 4: No, I mean, and like I said, this year. This 778 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 4: is the year that I've really just been paying more 779 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,959 Speaker 4: attention to it. So when I DJ, I've been trying 780 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 4: to like when I do these R and B parties, 781 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 4: and so I have a different set than anybody. I 782 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 4: don't do it just because I'm trying to be cocky. 783 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 4: I just be like, you know, you got a bunch 784 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 4: of DJ's doing sets. You be trying to figure out like, oh, 785 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 4: this nigga just played the record. I was gonna play 786 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 4: God damn, so now you got to you don't right 787 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 4: back there trying to figure out my playlist because this 788 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 4: nigga just played the record. I wanted to play my 789 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: first set, right, So I started saying, Man, fuck the ship. 790 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just play my music. It's all R and B. 791 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 4: I could do R and B records for the whole hour, right, 792 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 4: we could do. I could do my own R and 793 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 4: B records for a whole hour. And I just tell 794 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 4: the DJ, don't play no Jermaine the pre records. That's 795 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: gonna be my records. You can play everything else R 796 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: and B you want to, just don't touch my my 797 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 4: my little ship. 798 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: And I still have a full set. 799 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 4: And then I come out and I just play all 800 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 4: my records. 801 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: I was there. Turn that my fuck up. Played all 802 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: his records. They all work, They all work. 803 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 5: Congratulations, Thank you, congratulations mans. 804 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: I had him him up in the back of the kitchen. 805 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: My week man, I need my week man. 806 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 4: Man, come on, you gotta see he gotta really, you 807 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 4: gotta come. 808 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: You got you gotta come to it. You ain't welcome 809 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: to Atlanta, man. 810 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 4: You want to come do it. 811 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 3: You ain't got to convince me. 812 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't do it. 813 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 4: I say, you know, I know, I know, but I'm saying, 814 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 4: you know, you know he you know he he are. 815 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 5: You're thespian now though you know what I'm saying like 816 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 5: he's on Broadway now, congratulations. 817 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: This is my hand shake. 818 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 7: Got to grab think that's your new that's my new one. 819 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 7: That's my Broadway. 820 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 2: No, he bro, if we learned anything from Maine to Prie, 821 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: stay on, bro, don't give nobody the double as hand 822 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 2: shake to me earlier he gave you. 823 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: He walked in. He ain't to me. What is this bullship? 824 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 4: Great? That's what you're doing. 825 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: What is it? Hell's kitchen? Alicia ke Alicia Ki sh 826 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: what's up? Incredible? Ye incredible? 827 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 5: I'm brother on Broadway Man every day huh, I wanted 828 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 5: three times a week. 829 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 7: No, every day, every day e stuff on Monday, eight 830 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 7: shows a week. 831 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah them vocals? Right? 832 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: What you went? What is it? Emmy or Tony? Okay? 833 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah yeah the least to work on Award nominees 834 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 7: and the director Tony Award Like it's a thing. 835 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: Wow, it's a real thing. Have you seen it? 836 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 4: Nah? I didn't even think about that. Like right now 837 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: with you back to your question that you asked me about, 838 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 4: do I ever think about And I'm like no. Last 839 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 4: night I was watching the Oscars and they was playing 840 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 4: all Quincy music, as you know, all the songs that 841 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 4: was in the Oscars was all Quincy's the soundtrack of 842 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 4: Quincy Jones. And I was just thinking to myself, like 843 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think I hit that mark yet. 844 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 4: Like if I passed, they ain't gonna do that for me. 845 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 4: So my my challenging life now is to try to 846 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 4: get to that space. I don't know about that, brother, 847 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: not the Oscars, the Oscars soul training towards Maybe. 848 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: Grammy's better do it. 849 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 4: Grammy might give me a little they might give me. 850 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 4: They might give me a little space. But I'm saying 851 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 4: I want right now, I want. I'm saying that Oscar 852 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 4: look to just be like but he also scored movies too, 853 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 4: Yeah he did, he did. That's what I'm saying that 854 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 4: this is what I'm talking about, final front tier for 855 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 4: j D. I gotta get to it. So that's what 856 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's not I still I still see so 857 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 4: much stuff that I haven't done that I need to do. 858 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 4: That's all I'm thinking about. 859 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 5: Hey, Ryan Coogler, Uh, come on now, you from the 860 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 5: crib area, niggas man listen taping with JD. 861 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 4: Bro Let me do the whole soundtrack. 862 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,959 Speaker 1: Come on, man, watch ship. 863 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 5: You know you got the movie Theater with the with 864 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 5: the Rose Royce Uh yeah and all that. 865 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me do it. Let me do I promise 866 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 4: you I get it right. I never did it because but. 867 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: Everything I ever cand me, if you've never done it before, 868 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. 869 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 6: Yeah. 870 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 4: I won't try to figure it out. 871 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: I won't figure it out.