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Speaker 1: Mike Randall, I know this is what you live for,

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Speaker 1: so I want to get your your take first.

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Speaker 2: Overall, before we start to dive into the regions.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what your overall bracket reaction was

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Speaker 3: Overall reaction was, they did a pretty good job the committee.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes there's been some teams that are way oversea and understated.

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Speaker 3: Only a couple I have an issue with this year.

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Speaker 3: The big one for me that I was disappointed. My

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Speaker 3: the absolute youngest team in Division one college basketball, did

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Speaker 1: There you have it, and obviously you know when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the betting world, we always want to look

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Speaker 1: at trends. Mike and typically speaking you know, sometimes they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just some things, Joe, that you have to

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Speaker 3: have great articles here at Betting Pros Podcast live streams

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Speaker 3: to help you pick your winners, but things you have

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Speaker 3: upsets two number five verse number twelve. Number twelve's win

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is stunning. Look at Mike Randall bringing the

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Speaker 1: But clearly you have a much better chance of hitting

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Speaker 2: But what do you think about Gonzaga's first draw here.

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Speaker 3: They've made two final games, one with North Carolina. If

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Speaker 3: That is a contrast in styles. So if I had

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Speaker 3: So if I had to pick one right now, it

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Speaker 2: That would be my lean right now.

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Speaker 2: Is this like the biggest trap? Potentially? Obviously we have

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Speaker 3: In some ways, Joe Kansas is a sleeper. That's crazy

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Speaker 3: Remember when Kansas won their one title under self, they

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Speaker 3: Oh Chaia Bogy one of the best players in the country.

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Speaker 3: I think it's an easy draft for Kansas in the

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Speaker 2: What does that even mean?

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Speaker 3: They won at Duke, at Wake Forest, and at Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I think Kansas versus Auburn would be amazing I'd love

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Speaker 3: I think get through. I think they're not being thought

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the final bracket here

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Speaker 1: and let's go over to the East. Now, obviously, in

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Speaker 1: Kentucky's in this one.

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Speaker 2: So how do you see the East breaking down? Here?

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Speaker 3: First thing I'll mention to you is you have one

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Speaker 3: Cala Parry gets this team going. They're shooting threes at

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Speaker 3: a better rate, rebounding, inside defense. Kentucky looks every bit

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Speaker 3: I just wish Murray State was in another bracket against

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Speaker 3: But against Kentucky, I think that's a bad matchup. So

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Speaker 3: in this bracket, I don't think Baylor is going back

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Speaker 3: I think it's Kentucky's to lose, and I would not

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk big picture here, Mike, So we

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Speaker 1: already broke down the regions. Right now, we've gone through everything,

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Speaker 1: the things that you like, the things that you don't.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to take a future bet to win

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Speaker 3: same region if they meet, I'm getting double the value there.

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Speaker 3: Other bets I like Arizona plus six hundred. You're getting

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Speaker 2: Futures A year early.

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Speaker 3: I loved Tennessee. Last year Tennessee was picked to be

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Speaker 3: I don't like Purdue this year, but it would be

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Speaker 3: amazing to get that Bobby Knight signed autograph picture there

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Speaker 3: with Perdue winning the national title. He would not be

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Speaker 3: happy about that for sure.

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Speaker 2: When is he happy anyway. I mean, let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: he's not.

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Speaker 1: You know, he is at his happiest when he is

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Speaker 2: So there you have it again.

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Speaker 1: But the story of the game goes on for Mike Randall,

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Speaker 1: I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Kids,