WEBVTT - Selects: 10ish Cases of Really Bad Luck 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.480 Hey, everybody, it's Josh and in this week's s Y 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.000 s K Select, I chose our listical episode on cases 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.880 of people with really bad luck. And as we explained, 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.719 we're being pretty broad with the concept of luck here, 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.200 but I'm hoping you'll forgive us and enjoy the episode anyway, 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:25.320 because it's pretty interesting and entertaining. It's terestaining. Welcome to 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:34.520 Stuff you should know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.519 and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:41.040 w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there. And this is 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.400 stuff you should know about people who have really bad 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:49.320 luck to nine of them. Yeah, we can't. I don't 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.920 think we've ever done a full top ten list? Have 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.400 we that that that should be our last episode. Yeah, 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.360 it's like stuff you should know. It as ten biggest regrets. Right, 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.440 that's a great idea. Yeah, that'll be the last one. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.440 All right, let's write that down. There's no, we don't 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.880 have ten regrets. Yeah, I guess we couldn't do a 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.280 full time Actually, we could probably come up with ten. No, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.720 we couldn't. Vidcan number one. That's a big one. This 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.560 intro is definitely up there. To number two. See we're 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.679 on our way al right, Um, how are you feeling 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:27.160 pretty good? I'm great. Do you feel lucky? Punk, I'm 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.480 a pretty lucky person, and I will say that I 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.160 would agree with that fortune. My friends have called me 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.800 the rabbit's foot over the years. Yep, that's why they 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.280 I was rubbing you, but that's that's mainly for narrowly 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.160 escaping trouble more than anything. How about a story, Chuck 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.039 lay it on us? Oh? Just I mean I was. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.840 I was very famous among my group of friends for 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.200 getting pulled over by police and not getting tickets. I mean, 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.600 at one point, it was it had literally happened like 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.800 fourteen times in a row or something over a span 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.800 of like ten or twelve years. It happened a lot 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.000 that I never and I didn't get my first ticket 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:11.360 until geez, probably my thirties, mid thirties. How did you 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.440 have what happened? Did you talk your way out of it? 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.200 Or yeah? You know what you do? Man? And my 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.480 brother always gets a ticket and he's much nicer than 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:24.600 I am. But you just got to be as humble, humble, humble, humble, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.400 humble as you can be. And if you show the 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.600 slightest bit of attitude, then that police officer, in my experience, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.800 will delight in writing you that ticket. I mean, even 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.400 it's if it's a sideways look and I basically just 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.679 throw myselves at the mercy of the court on the 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.120 side of the road. I'm like, I'm so sorry, officer, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.680 I you are you should have pulled me over. You 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.359 did the right thing. I was wrong, and I'm sorry. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:54.520 There's no excuse here's I was gonna eat these French fries, 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.560 but you should take them. You're the hero here. I 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.640 think they're always a little disarmed and they're like, oh ohoh, okay, 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.359 well I guess I can letch off of the warning. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.840 I don't know, that's been my experience. All right, there's 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.239 chuck advice right there. So you get out of fourteen tickets? 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.760 So did you forget to the last fifteen time? Did 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.320 you forget? Did you sneer call them a pig? What? No? 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.000 I think it was just one of those things where 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.280 like they were writing the ticket even before I had 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.800 a chance to do my little song and dance, and 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.320 they brought me the ticket, and I was kind of like, well, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.240 wait a minute, don't you know who I am I'm 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.720 the guy that gets out of tickets. Oh, I thought 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.400 you were gonna say, I'm chuck from stuff. You should 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.920 know that means nothing. That's how you that's how you 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.880 get out of them these days, buddy. Well, um, we're 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.240 talking today about some people who have very bad luck. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.400 And you know, like a lot of these lists usually 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.920 are just like, uh, no to this one, no to 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.720 that one, No, this is wrong. Um. I think we 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.600 tried to do a list once where like, oh man, 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.680 I can't remember which one it was, but like every 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.360 single entry was just like just false. Right. That's only 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.360 the case with like three of these this time, which 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.640 I'm pretty that's not a bad batting average for realistical Yeah, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.960 and some of these are the word luck kind of 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.280 bothers me sometimes, because as is the case, we'll go 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.200 ahead and get to the first one. Ron Wayne, who 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.200 was one of the original three partners of Apple Computers. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.719 That's not bad luck. Ron Wayne made a board business decision. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.520 Have you. Uh, that's a good point. Have you ever 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.360 heard of Ron Wayne before? No? You No, I haven't, 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.240 And had I heard his name, I would have been like, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.240 he sounds like porn actor, but he's not a porn actor. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.159 Oh no, that was that was another guy. I can't 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:39.039 say his real name though, who I demand that you 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.960 say it. I'll tell you off Mike. Okay. So um. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.640 He turns out this guy was not a pornography actor. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.680 He was one of the three founders of Apple. And 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.640 as far as I had known to this point, there 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.720 were two founders of Apple. Turns out there were three 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.880 at the beginning for like the first twelve days. Yeah, 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.000 so go back to six and way Back Machine and 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.280 Nerdy Little Jobs and Nerdy Little Wozniak. Our young guys 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.920 uh in their twenties, and they had this great uh 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:11.680 they didn't know it at the time. Well they may 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.920 have known it or suspected, but this this great vision 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.440 for the future. But they were kind of kids and 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.440 they didn't have any experience. So they looked to a 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.360 guy named Ron Wayne who was in his forties, uh, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.360 to come in and kind of help what they called 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:32.560 with adult supervision, because I mean, they were programmers from Atari. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.920 But yeah, they didn't have the actual business sense or whatever, 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.599 and it was just a party job at the time, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.480 I believe so. But I had no idea how TORII 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.440 produced Apple though, did you? Oh? Yeah, I did a 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.080 bunch of Atari research stuff for my tech stuff guest 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.600 spot Oh okay, cool, Yeah, we did a history of 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.800 Atari two parter. Oh speaking of guest spots, man, let 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.680 me just also give a shot out real quick. Sorry 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.000 to interrupt this little entry, but I was on um 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.560 our good friend John and go Forth and our new 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:06.320 friend Brent's podcast Hysteria fifty one recently and nice. Yeah, 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.960 we talked about the Fermi paradox for like an hour 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.080 and it was awesome. So go check that out, Hysteria 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.120 fifty one, and go check out that out. Okay, so 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:20.520 plug out right. So we're in nix uh ws and 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:25.279 Jobs have recruited one Won Wayne Ron Wayne to be 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.360 the adult in the room to help with engineering documentation. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.760 And it was actually Ron Wayne who uh who drafted 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.320 the very first Apple contract and said, you know, this 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.200 is what they agreed on. He did make it up, 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.479 which said how much everyone is going to get? He 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.720 got ten percent, two Jobs and Wosniacs. And he even 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.760 created the first Apple logo, which was not the logo 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.160 we know and loved now. It was a it was 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.599 like a woodcut um style thing of Isaac Newton under 0:06:55.640 --> 0:07:00.480 the Apple tree. Not that sounds terrible. Yeah, I disagree. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.200 I think it sounds ugly. So, um, Ron Wayne the 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.600 while he was there, he very quickly was like, I 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.800 don't know if this is my kind of place. I 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.280 thought it was a good idea. I like what these 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:14.400 guys are doing. But this company in a garage, Steve 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.720 Jobs keeps taking acid during the middle of business hours. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.120 Um did he really? Yeah? Steve Jobs thought he was 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:27.360 pretty cool from what I understand. Um he Uh. Ron 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.200 Wayne was like, I I don't I don't think I 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.640 fit in here. Also, apparently he was worried that he 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.640 was going to have to pony up for you know, 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.160 whatever business debts they incurred. I think that was a 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.520 big deal. And he was like, all right, I'm out. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.320 I'm out because he was an adult and he was 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.600 like I've got a house and like I'm a real 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.880 adult human, Like they're gonna turn to me certainly when 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:51.240 they do. So. He he cashed out in in twelve days, 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.960 twelve days after they established their contract, and the contract 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.640 um was kept by Ron Wayne. Actually we'll get to 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.960 that in a second. But he cashed out for twenty 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.280 three hundred dollars two d and thirty thousand, you say, no, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:07.440 two thousand, three hundred, which is still today worse less 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.880 than like ten grand um. And he didn't even get 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.800 it all at once. He got eight hundred right then, 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.560 and then uh, he agreed to take fifteen hundred later. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.680 And that was seventy six, and in n Apple went 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:25.760 public and everybody involved became an instant millionaire, and years 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:31.080 later it hit the trillion dollar mark for valuation, and 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.920 all the while Ron Wayne got to watch this company 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.320 grow and grow and grow, and realized that he'd sold 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.400 off ten percent of the steak in the company for 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.920 hundred bucks. Yeah, and apparently if he had held all 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.120 those stocks, uh, he'd be worth close to a hundred 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.320 billion dollars. So he he takes issue with that. He said, 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.880 he probably lost out on tens of millions. Yeah, I mean, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.840 I guess it depends on what like you can't since 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.200 you can't go back and do it all over again, 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:04.520 like Eddie Money says, Uh, I guess there's always the 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.160 thing of like well, yeah, but he always maintains I 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:11.199 would have gotten out after that before the big cash 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.200 in anyway, probably, So I don't like to look at it. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.240 Is that sort of a loss, is what he tells 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.480 himself basically, or else I would have gone totally insane 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.800 a long time ago. Yeah, but he did apparently. Uh. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.360 He wrote a Facebook essay and said, I probably that 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.440 would have been around in nineteen eighty and gotten some 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.440 pretty good change, and and I think regrets it. Yeah, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.120 he said, had he known that and everybody's going to 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.719 become a millionaire in four years, he definitely would have 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.280 hung in there. But he just it's hindsight, you know. Yeah, 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.440 and the cherry on top here is pretty interesting though. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.079 He said. He kept that contract, that very first Apple 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.440 contract that he drew up, and he kept it and 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.559 he auctioned it off in the early nineties four how 0:09:53.640 --> 0:10:00.480 much five hundred somoleans five dollars and which happened. Not bad. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.880 It was just a piece of paper he had hanging around. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.400 Somebody turned around and auctioned it off years later in 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.480 two thousand and eleven four almost one point six million. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.199 Poor Ron Wayne. Now that one's bad luck. I wonder 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.360 what he did though with his life. He wrote essays 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:26.320 on Facebook. I mean I Betty did okay, Yeah, I 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.200 guess so, I mean Steve Jobs okay, but I doubt 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.920 if you like, you know, got a got a low wage, 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.880 hourly paying job. I don't know. He became Eddie Money's 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.080 tour manager. Things worked out then, right, And every time 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.520 any Money saying I want to go back into her 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.520 down Ron Wayne's face. So, UM, I think we should 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.240 move on. We're gonna leave Ron Wayne because my hat. Also, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.079 we should definitely tip our heads to anyone who faced 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:01.520 adversity like this and was like as happened, yeah, and 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.839 has had tipped to Ron Wayiam for that one. Um, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.600 and Hodges did not have that kind of experience. She 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.440 is the only person, as far as anyone knows, the 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.600 only human being in the history and recorded history of 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:21.600 humanity to have been hit by a meteorite. I'm laughing 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:26.360 and I shouldn't. Um. Well, actually she didn't get that hurt, 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.520 so that's why I feel okay laughing. It's not like 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.800 it fell on her head and killed her. It's November 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:37.840 thirty four in Alabama and eight point five pound a meteorite, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:42.040 uh came through her roof, bounced off of a radio 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.080 and hit her in the hip. Yeah. It makes you 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.920 wonder like if if she had been you know where 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.559 the radio was and this wasn't like a bounced like 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.800 uh ricochet, Yeah, a ricochet. I mean, how much worse 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.080 would things have been? Yeah? Probably dead. There's a I 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.600 saw a picture I'm edit of her, just randomly. We 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.280 had already picked this episode and started researching, and I 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.360 saw a picture of her bruise on Reddit and it was, um, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.240 pretty nasty, pretty nicety, little bruise. But that was about 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.440 as bad as it got physically. Um. So, she was 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.760 laying on the couch, a meteorite came through her roof, 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:23.760 hit her radio, hit her, and um she became almost 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.440 immediately a media sensation because word got out very quickly 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.960 that a woman had been struck by a meteorite, probably 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.440 the first and only person ever. Yeah, and and that's 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.520 super rare, Like it's rare. It's rare for a meteorite 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.760 to fall just in an urban area where people live 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.280 or suburban area where people live. Can I don't know 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.160 if I would call Alabama urban. Yeah, I mean it's 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.440 it's just not usual like usually meteorites, you know, there's 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.320 a lot of water on Earth. Usually they'll just land 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.839 in the ocean somewhere. Um. So it's big news if 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:03.199 a meteorite hits anywhere near pee, much less hitting a person. Right. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.760 There's a meteorologist named Michael Reynolds who told National Geographic 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.280 get this. He said, you have a better chance of 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.840 being hit by a tornado, bolt of lightning, and hurricane 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.800 at the same time than you do a meteorite. I'm 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.280 not sure how he actually quantified that, but that's one 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.640 of the better quotes I've read in a while. Yeah, 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.720 and this is where it gets this is just so 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:30.439 America in USA is there was a court battle between 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.920 her and her landlord because her landlord was like, that's 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:38.800 my space rock because it's my house and she and 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.600 and Hodges was like, no, that's my space rock because 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.880 it hit me and the hip. And they went to 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.720 court and Hodges actually won and got to keep that 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:54.240 uh sadly ultimately valueless meteorite. Yes, she's she's settled. Actually, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.320 she ended up paying the landlord five bucks for the 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.800 right to the rock. But by the time this was 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.360 finally settled, two years later, they found out that nobody 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.920 cared any longer. There was old news, so nobody wanted 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.160 to buy the meteorite. And you might think, well, okay, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.679 it's not clear that anyone would ever wanted to buy 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.520 the meteor right to begin with. Not true. They have 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.560 a neighbor just down the road who had just the 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.280 tiniest little piece of that space rock and sold it. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.840 At the time, this thing was a big media sensation 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.440 and was able to buy a new house and a 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.600 new car from the proceeds. So the Hodges were like, clearly, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.400 we've got the space rock, We're gonna cash in. We're 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.120 gonna buy the state of Alabama with the proceeds. But 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.640 two years later it was totally valueless, and Um and 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.520 Hodges actually had just just kept taking turns for the 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.680 worst and ended up dying in a nursing home at 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.560 age forty nine after having a nervous breakdown from the 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.960 the whole ordeal. It's very sad, um, but that meteorite 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.720 is on display at the l bam A Museum of 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.920 Natural History, and I hope that there is at least 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.560 a small placard that memorializes her. Surely there is, right, 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.640 I would, I would hope, so, yeah, which that that 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.240 would be a nice thing after a string of bad luck, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.400 that's pretty bad luck. Should we take a break? I 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.160 think we should? All right, We're gonna take a break 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:23.000 and talk about the unluckiest person in the music industry 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:50.960 right after this change. Chuck, Chuck, I have a tad 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:56.000 bit of anxiety the Beatles. No, no, no, I have 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.560 anxiety about this one, just because it's so rotten and rough. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.200 I feel so bad for this guy. Well, here's the thing. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.400 Before the break, I called former first Beatles drummer, not 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.800 former first, but former and first Beatles drummer Pete Best 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.200 the unluckiest man of music. He's been called that. Uh, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.720 that's not true either. Pete Best didn't have bad luck. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.480 Pete Best didn't have good chops. Oh is that what 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:28.120 it was? Yeah? So okay, wells okay, that's totally different. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.520 I thought it was. I I didn't think it was 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.240 bad luck necessarily obviously didn't jibe with the group. But 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.080 I thought maybe it was like he had to walk 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.920 around being like I have a terrible personality and that's 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.440 why I'm not a Beatle or whatever. Now, well we'll 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.160 get to that. So let's go back in time. Pete 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.960 bess Uh in the very early days of the Beatles 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.680 in the nineteen fifties when they were known as the 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.800 Quarryman um his mom he was a drummer and his 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.800 mom had the he owned something called the Kasbak Coffee 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.320 Club in Liverpool. Cool and she was, she was and 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.760 she was very like ahead of her time as far 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:08.280 as um the Liverpool music scene very much out in 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.120 front of it. So it's the kind of deal where like, well, 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.080 pizza drummer and his mom owns a place where we 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.639 can play. So he's in the band and it's good 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.240 because now we got a place where we can dig 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.320 and we got a drummer that's that can play okay, 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.960 and he's handsome. That was a big part of it, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.160 was he Yeah, that was a big thing over the years. 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.280 What that That was rumored that he was kicked out 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.040 because Paul said he was too handsome and he didn't 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.200 want any competition. Are you Is he still around? Yeah, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.280 he's alive. Okay, Well I'm not going to say the 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:46.439 next part then, so um, he he was enough. So 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.080 I guess at the time the Beatles, by by the 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.119 time Pete Best was kind of brought on, he wasn't 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.359 like officially brought on as as like the Beatles Beatles 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.280 as we think of him today, where there was like 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.360 four of them, there was like a rotating bunch of drummers, 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.960 and Pete Best was one of those drummers, right, yeah, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.280 but he played, I mean he was he kind of. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.560 It was sort of like when I rotated and stuff. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.959 You should know early on a little bit like there 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.199 was still a rotation going for a short time, and 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:19.199 I think and then everyone else just went away. Like 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.240 Pete Best played like eighty something gigs with the Beatles 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.000 pre Hamburg, I think, okay, and then they took him 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.640 to Hamburg, which apparently was a big, big turning point 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.160 for everybody. They play like eighty shows a week in Hamburg. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.320 I saw a great quote, Um, they said that. So 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.879 in Hamburg is where the Beatles like really started to 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.600 become like the Beatles, like they coalesced into a band. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.240 I saw that they arrived wearing Lilacs, sport jackets and 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:47.720 trousers and left wearing black leather jackets and jeans. That's 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.040 where they learned sex, drugs and rock and roll. Yeah, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.160 Pete Best wasn't into the drugs though, like the other 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.719 three guys, so that was a problem. Sure, that's a 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.280 buzz kill when the one guy in the room is 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.760 just sitting there staring at you judge, Yeah, well I would. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.520 I mean that's kind of a buzz kill, I would guess, right, Yeah, 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.280 yeah probably so I think they were all like doing 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.920 speed back then. Oh sure, because they were playing literally 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.040 like six or seven shows at night. Were they really 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:22.000 playing that many? Oh it was ridiculous? Wow? Yeah so um. 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.400 He was in a group called the Blackjacks before that though, 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:28.800 went to Hamburg, Hamburg with the Beatles, and then right 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.280 after that the Beatles go back to England in two 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:34.920 and they were just about to go into the studio 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.480 to record their first singles for E M I and uh. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.679 Legendary manager Brian Epstein called up and said, sorry, bloke, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.120 the boys want you out and it's already been arranged, yeah, 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:52.240 meaning like don't even bother it's done, which is sad 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.040 um and Pete Best took it pretty hard, from what 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.320 I understand for horrible and a horrible twist of iron. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.159 He ended up working at the Unemployment in office, but 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.960 working there now, hanging out there um and by this 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.920 time like he had made a name for himself around 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.000 Liverpool as as a musician in a beatle um. The 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.480 reason why he's called the unluckiest man of music is 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.520 not because he was a Beatle at one point in time, 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.879 but that he was a Beatle at one point in 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.359 time and was kicked out of the band a few 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:27.200 weeks before the Beatles blew up, and Um, it almost 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.600 makes you wonder like did they blow up because they 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.840 moved on to Ringo or was it like that was 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:36.000 just bad timing. Well, I mean, here's the deal. Uh, 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.760 there are interviews out there with both Um John and Paul. 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.040 There has always been the rumor, like I said that 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:47.040 Pete's handsomeness threatened the band. Um, that is not true. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.840 Paul is on record of saying, like, you know, it's 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.080 just something that happens. Early in the days of bands 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.600 like ring we were just really struck by how great 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.879 Ringo was. Pete Best sat out one gig because he 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.160 was sick or something, Ringo sat in and they were 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.520 all just like wow, like they all felt it and 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.560 it was just sort of that magic happening where they're like, 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.320 oh boy, I know what's got to happen. Um. John, 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.199 for his part, said, you know, it had nothing to 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.040 do with his looks. He said he was just kind 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.320 of a crap drummer. I mean he was John was 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.720 not the nicest guy in the world. So he really 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:22.280 kind of threw through it all on the table and 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.480 was like, he wasn't a good drummer. He just wasn't. 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.800 He was a good first drummer, and clearly it was 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:29.840 time to move on from him. Uh. And it was 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.240 mainly because his mom owned a place where we could play. 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.879 Not very nice, gotcha, No, But I mean that doesn't 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.840 make him unlucky. No, he didn't have the chops and 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.159 you know he, I mean, he's he's reckoned with it. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.800 I saw an article from last year where he was 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.399 like he never spoke to the other three guys again, 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:50.600 and he was like, yeah, I me and Paul would 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:52.280 love to sit down and like have a scotch and 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:58.040 talk about it. And he's like the doors open. Oh really, yeah, 0:21:58.160 --> 0:21:59.600 I don't know if Paul's going to do that though 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:02.560 maybe not. Uh. He was on Howard Stern. Paul was 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.840 and Howard was like, are you ever just gonna write 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:09.800 him a check just out of guilt? What He's just like, no, no, no. 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.960 He did get royalties though later on when the Beatles 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:17.160 anthology came out, because that included stuff from Pete Best, 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.200 So he ended up getting some money. Hey, he made out. Okay, 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.120 I think the lesson here is don't ever get sick. Yeah, 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:29.199 that's the key, everybody, that's right. So we're gonna go 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:34.600 from nineteen sixties Liverpool too, over to the New Orleans 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.920 area where they have hurricanes. Supposedly they have a hurricane 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.000 party every time the wind blows, have heard, but they 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.720 actually do have legitimate hurricanes, and those hurricanes can do 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.040 a lot of damage, as we saw in two thousand 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.200 five with Hurricane Katrina. By the time Hurricane Katrina rolled around, 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:57.959