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Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, Adam Sheffer

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Speaker 1: reports DEVO to DC and then we break down the

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Speaker 1: combine and does it matter if you run fast?

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Speaker 2: Fred?

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Speaker 3: And to be fast and not to be fast dead?

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Speaker 2: Is the question? All starts right now.

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Speaker 4: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan paulse here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss

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Speaker 1: and as always, we are presented by Cognitire Technology Secure Today,

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Speaker 1: Shape Tomorrow. And just to kind of do a little

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Speaker 1: bit of housekeeping here, guys, keep making make sure you

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Speaker 1: sending those mail bag questions. We really appreciate it that

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Speaker 1: hawk outside at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: We've got a ton of great questions. Keep them coming in.

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Speaker 1: We want to make sure that we're giving you content

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Speaker 1: that you want and that Fred can hopefully I answer

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Speaker 1: questions for you most definitely, and I hear them wrong

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Speaker 1: and give you false information, but that's always learn and

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Speaker 1: then that's that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, I just want to give a shout out

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Speaker 5: to Gary Clark because he put on a great break

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Speaker 5: thing his weekend, said Tana Mouse, gotta wood be Mitch

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Speaker 5: got of wood. Is nothing else better than X teammates

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Speaker 5: sure and love to ex players.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great.

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Speaker 4: What was the word for, well, I kind of suarizing.

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Speaker 4: It was basically, just give me you your flowers, recognition,

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Speaker 4: recognition for what you've done on the filing off the field.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. And like I say, like

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Speaker 4: he just mentioned, yes, big shout out to Gary, but

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Speaker 4: another big shout out to Fred and uh CP for

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Speaker 4: speaking on behalf of me. And no, it was nice. Man,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what.

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Speaker 2: Don't believe what they said about you, you know.

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Speaker 4: Please don't. I'm a better person than you think.

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Speaker 3: He was in my little tux too.

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Speaker 6: By Fred was clean man casket clean, jumped out of

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Speaker 6: the casket.

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Speaker 2: I love that. And were their fans there?

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Speaker 4: People there?

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Speaker 3: It was tons of people there.

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Speaker 2: I saw something on your Instagram. But it look cool,

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Speaker 2: look like a really cool.

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Speaker 3: It was a cool event in a great building.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, you don't see that much where other

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Speaker 5: players do that.

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Speaker 3: For the players, it's usually an organization.

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Speaker 4: He does it.

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Speaker 5: So to see Gary go out of his way to

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Speaker 5: make that happen to show appreciation, man, that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Say that we play the game, and I don't want

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Speaker 4: to be too long when we played the game for

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Speaker 4: many different reasons, you know what I mean, And it

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Speaker 4: always get brought up, you know. You know when it

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Speaker 4: comes to accolades, some players really kind of hang their

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Speaker 4: hat on those things. You know. Me myself personally, I

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Speaker 4: feel like you're lucky if you do, and damn if

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Speaker 4: you don't. Sometimes, but to get a to get recognized

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Speaker 4: for something you've done off the field, been not de

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Speaker 4: leave for how many years now? Ten eleven years? It was,

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Speaker 4: it was, it was. It was a big time for Gary.

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Speaker 4: So appreciation mister Clark. You know, hey, folks, that's super cool.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure school also be getting acknowledged with be

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Speaker 4: Mitched too. Yeah, I'm getting his flowers.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, I gave him.

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Speaker 1: Hell did you really just are funny to like, you know,

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Speaker 1: with like when fletching you, it's like very like back

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Speaker 1: and forth. I feel like with when b mitches there,

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Speaker 1: it's like your dad's there a little you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, not a bad way, but like you just

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Speaker 3: And that's why I love this franchise.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: It ain't nothing like to pass And now in the future,

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Speaker 5: just buying them together. I think this team does a

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Speaker 5: great job that we have some great ogs and now

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Speaker 1: It's cool and I think, you know, in addition to

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Speaker 1: there's also great fans and you know, like we got

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Speaker 1: He won He's from England. He won an International Fan

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Speaker 1: of the Year and the the Washington Commanders are going

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Speaker 1: to send him out to the twenty twenty five NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft in Green Bay, Green He's been a Commanders fan

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Speaker 4: He knows you yeah, which is he's one of very

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Speaker 1: And he's also got a UK based podcast it's called

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Speaker 1: One Point Safety where he talks all things Commanders. And

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Speaker 1: the Washington managed So really cool to see the I

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Speaker 1: think the sport of football growing, see this fan base growing,

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Speaker 5: I wonder how how English responds to his podcast because

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Speaker 4: American football, they have to say American football.

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Speaker 5: But I just wonder how many people in London and

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Speaker 5: England gravity gravitate towards his podcast because it is American sport.

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Speaker 4: What It's crazy because I remember when I was over

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Speaker 4: they had American football up there. They was playing actual football,

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Speaker 4: So I saw a couple of guys. I'm like, he

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Speaker 4: It's like no, no, you need to come to a game.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they have more to talk about just

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Speaker 1: And so when I was in Atlanta, my roommate was

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Speaker 1: the UK football, you know, and it's it's just interesting.

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Speaker 1: They all got normal jobs, you know, but they come

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Speaker 3: But this is how they probably look at us when.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's almore like soccer because we kind of

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Speaker 3: Like the one thing about soccer I can.

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Speaker 5: Say it's a relative residential sport like.

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Speaker 4: Soccer is soccer is played in these suburbs.

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Speaker 1: I mean soccer to me, soccer, soccer, basketball, even like

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Speaker 1: All you need is a ball in a field, ball

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Speaker 2: Where there's where there's grass, people go play soccer like,

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Speaker 5: Play it in the in the suburbs. It's a rich

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I think so Like so for example, like I met

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Speaker 1: They're not in the league shirts and skins played soccer

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Speaker 5: But as a guy that's from low income area, most

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Speaker 4: Soccer, but think about it, community, you got to the gate.

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Speaker 4: So those communities, they kind of gravitate to those areas

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Speaker 4: to do. See, you go to the hood. We came

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Speaker 4: out of soccer at playing soccer ball. It's basketball, You're.

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Speaker 1: Not it's going to be tra But what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: then there's like I also grew up in an area everywhere, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's one of those things where it's like

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Speaker 5: Where they're playing it in the low income area, it's

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Speaker 4: Colture culture thing. And then when it comes to just

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a little more middle class. And that's

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Speaker 5: why now we'll finally that's why I enjoyed hockey. They

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Speaker 5: point where Connor McDavid and the rest of these guys, well,

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Speaker 5: Soccer worldly we're still behind everybody because we get out behind.

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Speaker 2: This is like a conversation like we're kind of off track.

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Speaker 1: Your no, we just broken left. But like you know,

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Speaker 1: And then but with soccer, like if you're playing a

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Speaker 1: running track, like you're doing different Like we prioritize different

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Speaker 1: lot of the basketball players I think would be great

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Speaker 4: You don't get to see him as more early ricognition.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's enough of us kind of talking about

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Speaker 1: sports and development and different nations and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But congratulations to Scott Hartley.

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Speaker 1: And then in addition to having the best fans and

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Speaker 1: there's also some other news coming on and we got

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuels signings and I got we got to preface this.

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Speaker 1: According to Adam Schefner, the Washington Commanders have agreed to

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Speaker 1: terms to trade for Deebo Samuels, and so Washington receives

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuels. According to Adam Scheffner, San Franciscover receives a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick. All of these trade detailed details are

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Speaker 1: according to Adam Scheffner, still needs to be finalized. He

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Speaker 1: still needs to get his physical, So I just want

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So Washington as of right now is taking the remainder

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Speaker 1: of Deebo Samuel's contract and paying his full seventeen point

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Speaker 1: five seasons. So basically, Deebo Samuel four a fifth round

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Speaker 4: it was with all those guys. We didn't have to

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Speaker 5: So it's just so many things working in Like it's

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Speaker 5: But this is what this guy masures in he made

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Speaker 3: When he comes on the field. We have to alert it.

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Speaker 5: It's about what do you bring to an offense and

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's one of those guys that you remember

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Speaker 4: him rather you know, scratch the you know what else

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Speaker 4: So I'm happy with it because I understand what it's about.

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Speaker 4: When you have a team, you have a nucleus of

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Speaker 2: And so that's what he does well.

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Speaker 1: Last year we were thirtieth at explosive place, and so

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Speaker 1: So he's just by himself superseding that number. And it's

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Speaker 1: But the thing where he really excels is like, get

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Speaker 3: And then think about this.

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Speaker 3: For me Rob to go down.

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Speaker 4: Financially they have no other choice.

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Speaker 5: They are they are to me, and I don't I

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Speaker 3: They missed the Windo like they want.

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Speaker 3: Then you also have Fred Warner that's over there. You

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Speaker 5: You got guys that you if you want to keep

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Speaker 5: I think Debo was on their list of Okay, we

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Speaker 1: So I think that's great background, and I think the

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Speaker 4: But I think too, if you don't want to sit

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00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,399
Speaker 4: here and get too much in detail with just what

443
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,600
Speaker 4: last year was about, because last year was just a

444
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,240
Speaker 4: bad year for the.

445
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,679
Speaker 3: Whole team two team, you know what I mean?

446
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,240
Speaker 4: If you think about going forward, Okay, this guy's gonna

447
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,000
Speaker 4: be up again. Are we willing to pay him? Again,

448
00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,720
Speaker 4: or do we need to get something for him? You

449
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,119
Speaker 4: can't pay them if you think, it's just smart for

450
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 4: them to go out there and say, let's see if

451
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,639
Speaker 4: we can get some value for this player. You know,

452
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,159
Speaker 4: you know, we don't know what this year is going

453
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,400
Speaker 4: to be about, so we don't know if his value

454
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,480
Speaker 4: going to be up for a four or four a

455
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 4: third or fifth round. So they went out there and saying,

456
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,840
Speaker 4: you know what, let's turn this this this asset into

457
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 4: another asset, into something that we can bring in and

458
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 4: maybe have more years with before I have to worry

459
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,400
Speaker 4: about giving them big money. So misides all the other

460
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,439
Speaker 4: stuff that you just mentioned. That's where I'm looking at.

461
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,440
Speaker 4: I'm looking at more so saying yes, he's a he's

462
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 4: a talent, but do I want to hold on it

463
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,480
Speaker 4: for one more year? And now I'm a risk either

464
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,479
Speaker 4: getting something for him or have to pay him.

465
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 3: I can't took a receiver in the first round and

466
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 3: you just paid another receiver.

467
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,840
Speaker 5: You can't afford to pay him again. Like there's just

468
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 5: too much money in one room right there. So, like

469
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 5: I said, it was just one of those things where

470
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 5: he was the odd man out. And I don't think

471
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,160
Speaker 5: they finished trading guy. I just think he's the beginning

472
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 5: of something that they had to do.

473
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think also like both great points, but

474
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 1: I understanding like what the film says about him, right,

475
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 1: and is what his recent history says about him. And

476
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,119
Speaker 1: so obviously, like, well, I speak for everyone, We're excited

477
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 1: he's going to be here, Morty Adam schefferd. We're excited

478
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 1: he's going to be a part of the Washington Commanders

479
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 1: because of what we just talked about, how he raises

480
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 1: the floor.

481
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 2: Of this offense.

482
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 4: He's an upgrade in their room, right, And so.

483
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: I will say he has a little bit of an

484
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 1: injury history because he plays so hard.

485
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 3: I've been saying he plays so reckless.

486
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 5: He's a bowling ball with pins coming out of It's

487
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 5: like he plays that level. Now I want to see

488
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 5: because all us veterans, when we get to a certain point,

489
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 5: we have to try to reinvent ourselves. And he go,

490
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 5: the funny thing about it, we make it to the

491
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 5: league in the best shape our life because we leave

492
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 5: in their college years.

493
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: That's a really interesting thing to talk about for people

494
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: who aren't in the NFL, Like you are fit coming

495
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: out of college.

496
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 5: But when we come out of college, we are we

497
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 5: are the best we ever go to tip top shape,

498
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 5: and then for the rest of our career we have

499
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 5: to lose weight the longer we stay in the league,

500
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 5: like and people won't think about that like that, Like

501
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 5: I had to gain weight. I was one of the

502
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 5: few people that had to gain weight as I went,

503
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 5: But then when I got to the year six seven, like,

504
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 5: I need to lose weight. So I hope he get

505
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 5: to the point where you're like, all right, let me

506
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 5: slim down so I can so I can get back in.

507
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 4: It in the pocket to his offense. Normally, guys like

508
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 4: a debo that already have that that that kind of

509
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 4: compact structure, or if you get hurt or something bothering,

510
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 4: you can't gain weight.

511
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, with me, it happens to me.

512
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 4: In two thousand and going into twenty ten that off

513
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: season when I had that that third knee surgery. Yeah,

514
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 4: I couldn't run. I couldn't do it. So I set

515
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 4: back all those I saw me eat myself until like

516
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 4: and I.

517
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: Was trying my hardest.

518
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

519
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 4: I was too ten that one time.

520
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 2: What is your only playoff one ninety about fifteen pounds yeah.

521
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: So you got to think that twenty ten season, I

522
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 4: didn't have no OTAs, I didn't do anything, but you

523
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 4: got no train, say training, and I still went out

524
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 4: there heavy as I ever had been and went for

525
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 4: a thousand yards. So it hurt.

526
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 3: Did you feel sluggish?

527
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 4: No doubt. I mean I was exhausted, you see. And

528
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 4: the only reason why it didn't affect me, you know,

529
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 4: far as mentally, is because I knew I had a

530
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 4: job to do, and trust me, I was praying, please

531
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: something happened where I can lose its weight.

532
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just it's hard now it's on you

533
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

534
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 4: And even much older you in your thirties, Yeah, you

535
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: say to yourself, like, damn, what I gotta do. So

536
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: I gotta drastically cut something. And as a player, you're

537
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 4: so routine and what you intake. Yeah, during the season

538
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: off season, I was just on my routine, doing the

539
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 4: same thing I had done. But for so many years

540
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: I never had that break. I didn't, you know, lose

541
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 4: the weight. So I look at DBO as one of

542
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 4: those guys that if he's not where he can just practice,

543
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 4: practice and play without having to sit back and say

544
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 4: I gotta, I gotta basically you know, hill up. Yeah,

545
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: that's where it hurts at for guys like that. And

546
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, trust me also with a guy

547
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 4: like Debo, because I went through that, he's gonna be

548
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 4: determined to go out here and show everybody because you

549
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 4: just traded, don't don't don't don't, don't, don't bank on

550
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 4: what you saw last year. He judged me off of that.

551
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 4: Every year is the new year for years and we

552
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 4: have our ups and downs. We only human too, And

553
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure whatever was what he was dealing with,

554
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: you know, mentally physically, this year is going to be

555
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 4: a refreshing year. Knowing that he have a quarterback like

556
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 4: James on the team like this, I'm looking for Debo

557
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: to come in here, slim and trimming, ready to go.

558
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 5: And because he's a guy that's not known for his

559
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 5: route running, I am very eager to see him play

560
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 5: with a quarterback that makes plays outside of destructure because

561
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 5: when like I realize his where he just lived from,

562
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 5: it's all scrupture, like carry on time, You're gonna do

563
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 5: this play on time will Well. Jane does a great

564
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 5: job of playing all schedule, like giving you a chance

565
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 5: to run a second in the third round, and I'm.

566
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: Eager to see how Debo plays ended.

567
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's that's a great point because

568
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 2: when you watch, I think brock Perty's had a really

569
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: good year last year. He's he's a good player, you know.

570
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 2: But one thing I will say is I think Jade

571
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: Daniels is tremendously accurate. That's what we talked about a lot.

572
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: And one of the things about Debo because he's not

573
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: the most refined route runner. You know, he's like this

574
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: is gonna tell like a knock, but he kind of

575
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: runs routes like a running back a little bit like

576
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: he's just he's just a big, kind of explosive guy,

577
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: not super nuanced. But what I will say is there's

578
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: opportunities like on like little slants and stuff where if

579
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: you put that ball right.

580
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 4: In front of him, oh nobody's catching, He's going to

581
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: score a touchdown.

582
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: And I think about what Jayden does and how and again,

583
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: how accurate, how precise he's with the ball, how on

584
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: time he is his release, and how that's going to

585
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: elevate the skill set. And so I think this is

586
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: again I got to just give you know, Adam Peters

587
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: his flower. He doesn't ney flowers for me, but I

588
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: always like to talk about him like understanding the player,

589
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: understanding what he does well, Deebo, I'm talking about and

590
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: understanding how he fits here. And what I'm saying is like,

591
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: think about when you get to a more accurate passer

592
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: in this offense that creates space so well, that seems

593
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: like just a devastating combination for the league to deal with,

594
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: and also just an upgrade for Jayden. And so again,

595
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: like there are some things that people are a little

596
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: bit concerned about the other one that people have asked

597
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: me about, So I'm going to bring it up on here.

598
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: He's as like he slapped a long snapper last year

599
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: or whatever he did.

600
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: You know, that's passion. But I'll tell you this, I

601
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: slapped a long snap.

602
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this.

603
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has said multiple times he's one of his

604
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: favorite players ever. And having played with Kyle, like Teddy,

605
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. There's a type of competitiveness, yes,

606
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: that he loves And if and if he says that

607
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: about Debo, I really don't care. I don't care about

608
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: because that passion, that's the dog.

609
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: That dog mentality is going to be good for this offense,

610
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: and good.

611
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 5: Because he don't put out a book on the side.

612
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 5: But you're right, let's get Peter's prop because this is

613
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 5: what I want to say. If you'd have told me

614
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 5: at the beginning of the year we was gonna get

615
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 5: we would go give up a full for Marshall Lattimore

616
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: and a feel for Deebo Samuels out of sit You lie,

617
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 5: you Yeah, because not because we wouldn't give it up,

618
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 5: because they wouldn't accept it. You know, you see what

619
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So I want to get him his problem

620
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 5: because you've you've added these two players to this roster,

621
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 5: one on offense, one on defense, when you know it

622
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 5: ain't no guarantee that a fourth in a fifth round

623
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 5: to go even make the team, let alone be a

624
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 5: start on the team.

625
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 4: Hey, I gotta get your problems right now. That's intriguing himself.

626
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

627
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: So, I mean obviously works. They're They're like with any

628
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: anytime there's a trade, there's always questions about the guy

629
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: coming in and what the value is.

630
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: I think this is a really good fit.

631
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing I want to just talk we

632
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: talked about what devo means for Jayden, but I also

633
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: think it's important to talk about what DEVO means for Cliff,

634
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, and like, do you guys have any thoughts

635
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: on because to me, I just look at it and

636
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a perfect player for c offense.

637
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: Yees, because when he moves, where's he moving? Where's he

638
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: gonna end up in?

639
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 5: This guy has the ability to start by the sideline

640
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 5: beginning of the snap of the ball and end up

641
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: at tailback. He could end up at the slot receiver.

642
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 5: He can end up running across the formation or playing

643
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: that tight end, that type that tight end.

644
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta look at it, man, It's just

645
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: adding add more value to your offense. You adding a

646
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: weapon versus you know, like he don't have to necessarily

647
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: go out there and be a number one. You have

648
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 4: number ones all around, you know, I mean you have

649
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: a terryogic like people up get caught up in the

650
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: you know, oh is he number one? And number two

651
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 4: or three cares He's a dynamic player. That's how all

652
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: that matters to me. We get in this world with

653
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: comparing and you know, basically, you know, measuring guys against

654
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: each other for what what does he bring to this team.

655
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 4: He's another weapon that if you don't check him, he

656
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: gonna check you.

657
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 5: And he's a weapon that's very different, right he has

658
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 5: he's very different when like it's a defensive player. Like

659
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: if you tell me this, they got a number one receiver,

660
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: we can we can get the Pilsil in paper and

661
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 5: we can figure out a way to stop at number one.

662
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: But if you got a lot of dudes, we can't.

663
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: We got to play straight up, we got it d

664
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 5: like when you got dudes and make it hard as

665
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: well us to stop.

666
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really glad you brought that up, Towner, because

667
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: it's like Terry, is this excellent like vertical pass catcher, posts,

668
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: goes deep comebacks, double move high crosses like he's good.

669
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Like that's like your true kind of receive skill set.

670
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: You know.

671
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Then you got to look at Zach and his ability

672
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: to win underneath and do some stuff and you say like, man,

673
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: like those guys can create space for Debo underneath to maximize.

674
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that if I'm Cliff

675
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: like thinking about like I got excited, you know, it's

676
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: just making sure you don't you don't force touches to people.

677
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, you'll.

678
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 4: Get a good job of it.

679
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, great jobat So I think

680
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: he's fully capable of doing that. But I think there's

681
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: this temptation to be like, oh, we got this new thing.

682
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: So if there's one, it's only right, yeah, yeah, the

683
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: one thing.

684
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: Let's make it come on.

685
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 5: Christmas when you open up that new Tah, you know

686
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: you want to play with some of us opening the

687
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: way before Christmas.

688
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: Put a little hold in there. Listen, sometime you do.

689
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 5: But I think he wants when he does have a

690
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: tear mclawin, he won't be forced to do it. I

691
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: think it just it adds to his plate and say,

692
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: you know what, now I'm versative enough to not have

693
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 5: to do it on third and seven.

694
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: I don't have to throw past the sticks. I can

695
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: throw this guy for your.

696
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: Pass it he can break the tall I was just

697
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: thinking about, like some of those looks where they get

698
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: those double chip looks, and they should put the guy

699
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: in the flat and imagine giving him that ball with

700
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: fifteen yards of running room, Like what.

701
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 5: About the rub up route, the crossing route, Like I

702
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: could just see him catching one, right, now and turning

703
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: up the field and just looking at a dB right

704
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: in the.

705
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: Face like Coop it the Jean. I can't wait to

706
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: see you because you know he has this thing with Philidh.

707
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's perfect way to bring up Philadelphia Eagle

708
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: right in the building. It's right in and he has

709
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 5: this mistake to him. It's a mistake to him of

710
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: fast and physical and I loved it.

711
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: And he's not a J. Brown, but he has a

712
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: a J. Brown effect.

713
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

714
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm excited. And again this is all

715
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: reported by Adam Scheffer. We're kind of talking. It's not

716
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: finalized till the trade comes through, but man really excited

717
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: about it. And I think that that leads us kind

718
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: of really nicely to our next talking point, which is

719
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: does this change your draft strategy? Because right now, again

720
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: because this has not been finalized yet, the only two

721
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: receivers are Luke McCaffrey and Terry McLaurin on the roster currently,

722
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: and so obviously you.

723
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: Can kind of clump Debo in there.

724
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're putting your GM hats on,

725
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: and again we were, we're going to defer to Adam Peters.

726
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: He's going to make great decisions here. But at this point,

727
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: what what do you think about the need to bring another.

728
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: It's so much talent out I'm still going to give

729
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 4: me a young guy you have, you have the capital

730
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: ford and you don't have to necessarily pick a guy up.

731
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: You can go out there and find a very capable

732
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: game change of playmaker in this draft and wide receiver

733
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: in the later rounds. And I've seen a lot of them.

734
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: We saw this comebine that just passed this weekend. It's

735
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: it's some guys out there that can really play this game,

736
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 4: that can run routes. And you know what I liked

737
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: about this, this comebine watching these guys in the combine.

738
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: You remember at one point receivers. That's that just talk about.

739
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: Since we talked about receivers. You had to be a

740
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: certain height, you had to have you to look like

741
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: a receiver. That's no longer here, no more. This this

742
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: today's offense in the NFL. It's like college. We want fast, twitchy,

743
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: quick guys that can catch the ball and get missing.

744
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: So I'm still picking a guy in the draft. It

745
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: receives us stability to to draft somebody with a high

746
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: ceiling that's just not there yet. You know what I'm saying.

747
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: It gives it the ability to dray up a project,

748
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean.

749
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: Well, this is the only one to point out too.

750
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: So there's only two guys on the roster. Three if

751
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: you can't do But obviously that's still pending. But like

752
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, you usually you play a season

753
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: with six, you probably come into camp with about nine.

754
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: So they have a lot of people that need to

755
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: fill this out. So they're going to bring in some

756
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: free agents.

757
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Right, plus my resass on my own free agency, like

758
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: you just don't know.

759
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: And the other thing is, I don't think this precludes you,

760
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: depending how the rest of free agency goes to say,

761
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: like let's say, for example, like Golden from Texas for

762
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: whatever reason, is at twenty nine and I love him,

763
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: and or Luther Burton and I love him, or insert

764
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: your the receiver you love at twenty nine. If you

765
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: love a receiver and he's there at twenty eight game,

766
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't think this precludes you from doing that. No, no,

767
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: take it again. I think if you're looking at resources,

768
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: you say, oh, we can go a different way because

769
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: we've got.

770
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: More talent here.

771
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: But I think if what you want to do is

772
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: kind of short up the roster with free agency, with

773
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: trades in this part of the season, and then at

774
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: twenty nine or wherever we're picking, be like, hey, this

775
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: is a guy that is a commander.

776
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: How we compete.

777
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: I want to just give us the ability to take

778
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: best player available. I hope. So I think it does.

779
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: I think so.

780
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: I think it does because the one thing I think

781
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: the great teams do, they're not a prisoner of need.

782
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: Like the one thing I can say about Philadelphia, they

783
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: don't choose four or five guys from Georgia because they

784
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 5: have a prisoner that need. I just drafted Jordan Davids

785
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: last year, but I'm coming back and drafting card.

786
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: I'm drafting dressing best players available, and I think.

787
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: That's his mindset.

788
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: So I think when it comes to the twenty ninth pick,

789
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 5: whoever's there, we're gonna take the best player available.

790
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: You know.

791
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly right.

792
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: And so I do think it kind of again, like

793
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: everyone says, all this is gonna we don't need a

794
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: draft the receiver.

795
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: If you do a good job in free agency and

796
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: you fill that thing out, if you like a player.

797
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: Just take that player player.

798
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: I think that's something I'm really excited to see and

799
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: why this time of the year is so fun because

800
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: it's like there's no right way to build a team,

801
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: but you build it with a good football players.

802
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: But it's also who are we building the team to beat?

803
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 5: We're being in this team to beat an individual rivalry,

804
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles.

805
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: So you know it is you know, it's admitted to

806
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: the madness if you know what I means.

807
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that leads us really nicely into

808
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: risk it for the biscuit.

809
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: Biscuit?

810
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: Are we over evaluating the coming I think we're talking

811
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: about prospects and all this stuff like this is a

812
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: good time to talk through some of this stuff. And

813
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: it's presented by Marsha McLennan agency, your partner and risk

814
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: and People's strategies. So every time the combine comes out,

815
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: we have our guys that we like, guys that we love,

816
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: and the combine really bumps people up, bunch people down.

817
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: Are we how do you really feel about to come back?

818
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: Because I feel like.

819
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: It's I'm more of a film guy.

820
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: I want to see you great football and if you

821
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 4: just happen to run a full eight.

822
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 5: I don't give a damn. I'm just one of them people.

823
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: I like football players, and I learned more from a film.

824
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 5: They're not do from you testing.

825
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: God, that just means guys are not all I mean,

826
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: we all not great testers, you know what I mean.

827
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: Like we found that out in school. Some guys going

828
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: to be you know, straight at students, but test, you

829
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And so that's how I've always

830
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: looked the combine. Now it's a I guess you can

831
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: say this is a great segment for a risk of

832
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: the you know, risk for the business. Yeah, think about it.

833
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: If you can test well, yeah, kudos to you. Yeah.

834
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: If you a guy that's not going to test well,

835
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: but you know you're a hell of a football player, yeah,

836
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 4: the kudos.

837
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: To you too.

838
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: Now, I hope with that being done or said that

839
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: it doesn't lower your status. But hopefully when you got

840
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: these guys who are experts in what their eyes see,

841
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: they should know good football player when they see one,

842
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It shouldn't be that, oh

843
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: it's forty wasn't fast enough for me. So I don't know,

844
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: and you see that we see it all the time.

845
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: So but the last few years, I have seen certain

846
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: signs of guys that just didn't run well. Yeah, and

847
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: at one point the forty was the nd all be off.

848
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: You didn't run. If you didn't run that forty, well,

849
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 4: it was. It was devastating to your status.

850
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: We all know how it feels to put our hand

851
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: on that line and be like my dream rely on

852
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 5: what I do in this next four point when you better.

853
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: Go blink like I did, put my hand down there.

854
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 4: I ain't think about nothing, but I.

855
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: Don't think people understand that like I did all of

856
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: this good football playing, but now it comes down to

857
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: this four point.

858
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 4: Is what I just gave you four years and now

859
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: some of these guys five and six years. If I

860
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: just gave you all these years of film, you can

861
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: you can. That's why I love the fact that Marvin

862
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: Harrison Jr. Didn't do anything. He just showed. He set

863
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: the ball, like, look, man, I just put all this

864
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: film out there, go watch me, you know, and and

865
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: if you can't get none of that, then you're not

866
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 4: a good.

867
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you a player that comes to mind

868
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: when they when I'm like his film and his workouts

869
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: don't match, I'm going with the film Peter Warrick. I

870
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 5: have I watched Peter Ward dominate college football for years.

871
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: Came out, did not run a good.

872
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: Forty, and I'm like, yeah, did he play well in

873
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: the league. Though he did play well, he had ye

874
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: what they tried to So this is the thing back then,

875
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: because this is going to show you how the league

876
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: has changed. Back then, they tried to force them into

877
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 4: being a number one outside receive.

878
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: You can't.

879
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 4: You can't make some money with him inside.

880
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: So let me say this, So I agree with Fred,

881
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: like ninety percent of your evaluation to be from film, right,

882
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: But there are thresholds for positions that are irrelevant. So

883
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: if you're a receiver, that's supposed to like so Kyle

884
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: no ta jhoneson fifty four, He's not a great example

885
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: because his GPS numbers are really good. But yeah, like

886
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: so like there are other things that support that. But

887
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: like Bryant from Illinois, the receiver, he's sixty three, he's

888
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: two hundred and ten pounds, he's awesome on film, Like

889
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: he is a dog competitor.

890
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: On film. You ran a four to six five, which

891
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: is like a tight end time.

892
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: So like I know that his ceiling because he's vertical

893
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: speed isn't there, Like you could be the best football

894
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: player ever, but physically you can't compete with these with

895
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: the velocities that we're going to be dealing with here,

896
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: with the speeds and the accelerations, right and again, so

897
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: now I'm like, instead of him being a third round pick,

898
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: I still like him, but there's more risk.

899
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: There's more risk.

900
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: I'll probably take him in the fifth round because I

901
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: like the film that much, but I'm gonna move other

902
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: people up who again fit those physical measureables right a

903
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: little bit better. And I'm not saying it's the end

904
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: all be out because the film is still good, right,

905
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: but you got to make sure that we're showing out

906
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: and we meet those And so then he ran a

907
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: four to six nine or four or whatever he ran,

908
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: but his jumps weren't good.

909
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: So all the explosive stuff wasn't there with there.

910
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: So I think that's where you kind of use that

911
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: right With the offensive line, it shows up all the time,

912
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Like in the NFL right now, there's only five offensive tackles,

913
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: five offensive tackles in the last ten years who've played

914
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: offensive line with thirty two inch arms. So Will Campbell

915
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: measured at thirty two.

916
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: And a half.

917
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: So is he going aa have to move to goal?

918
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: Is you gonna have to move to guard? So there's

919
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: a reason those thresholders are there. And you talk to

920
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: people with the combine and no one has one bad

921
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: word to say about Will Campbell.

922
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: They love him. He's a great pall player, he's a

923
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 2: great leader.

924
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: But he's going to be a good pro.

925
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: It's just is it going to be a tackle or

926
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: a guard? And then where do I value a guard?

927
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Right?

928
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 5: It's very Sam Cosmy, Yeah, I think that's exactly what

929
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 5: I would say too.

930
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: And Sam Cosby's an awesome I say it.

931
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: I think he's a pro Bowl guard. But like you said,

932
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: thirty two inches, that ain't long enough to make a

933
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: defense me and run.

934
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: The hump, run the hump, and so again, like, even

935
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: though we all know he's going to be a good

936
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: football player, just the math doesn't support him playing tackle.

937
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: And they dropped him Nicks, like you just say it.

938
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: The fim is there.

939
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 4: His workout was good, Yeah, great workout, great.

940
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: On field work was not there.

941
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: And it's a difference between a tackle and the guard.

942
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: A tackle goes way higher.

943
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Than a goal, I goes so just as a comparison

944
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: like armand Membu, the tackle from Missouri who was maybe

945
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: tackle guard. He's six four and a quarter, he's three

946
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two pounds, he has thirty three and

947
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: a half inch arms, and he ran a four nine

948
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: to forty.

949
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he looked great on the field.

950
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: So now there's talk coming out of any that he's

951
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: going to be the first offensive lineman taken. But it's

952
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: not because of the combine. That's that's a data point.

953
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: His film was good, but now they see the athlete,

954
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: they say, we feel better about this pick. So and

955
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: when so, like let's say he goes at seven and

956
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: Will Campbell goes at ten. They're really the same player.

957
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: It's just a different level of risk associated.

958
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: With the players.

959
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

960
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because you're saying the measurements is there with win, Yeah,

961
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 5: and then measurements change the position of the other one.

962
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and so yeah, so I'm gonna take And

963
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: this is a weird thing about the NFL kind of

964
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: Then Tanna's point, tackles are more.

965
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: Valuable than guards.

966
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: Yes, so if he's a true tackle, he's gonna go higher.

967
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: And then the guard who even though he's gonna be

968
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: a good he could be he could be Zach Martin.

969
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's right, because the value is not there.

970
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of what we're talking about.

971
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: And again, both gonna be good football players, like there's

972
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind. But again that's where the

973
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: combine comes in because it helps you meet these minimum

974
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: threshold numbers. Now, so let's talk about some guys that

975
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: we thought maybe help themselves hurt themselves. You guys picked

976
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: some guys to research.

977
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: So I start off with Sam Brown, Sam Brown Junior

978
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: from the yard from the U. I like anything to

979
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: do that thing, right, No, no, no, honestly I watched

980
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: I watched a lot of them this year because you know,

981
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: I was watching my team and when we got him

982
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: over from Houston, the one thing that I watched any

983
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: and every time he got a chance to have one

984
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: on one coverage, he won, you know. And you know

985
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 4: when you have a guy that can win, and then

986
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 4: he has the height, he has the wingspin, the measurement,

987
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: and then you go out there and see him compete

988
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: and and and probably one of the top well I

989
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: think they said he was with top ten or when

990
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: it came to times as a wide receiver and all

991
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 4: that stuff, all the different other things. He tested that

992
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: vertical you name it broad.

993
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was six to two and a quarter,

994
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: big guy, two hundred pounds, thirty one and five thirty. Yeah,

995
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: he ran four. He had a forty vertical. He didn't

996
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: do the broad but like, that's a good worktok on

997
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: the right on the d I love that we did this, Tanner,

998
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: because I went. I went to the combine. I watched everybody,

999
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: but every year somebody just kind of slips through that

1000
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: I don't notice.

1001
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he jumped forty one inches.

1002
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like that's elite exposing measurement.

1003
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: When I go back and watch this film, I'm like,

1004
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: dude looks exactly like Noah Brown to me, Like they

1005
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: look very similar.

1006
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: Me, you're right.

1007
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: This one came to my mind when y'all started to

1008
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 4: throw out.

1009
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: The mid round.

1010
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: Damn, this is no sun No, no, I mean no.

1011
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 4: He excelled man like, and it's not. It's crazy because

1012
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 4: I didn't see the speed or see the gears throughout

1013
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: the season. I just saw him winning, and I care

1014
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: less about how fast it is. If you can separate.

1015
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 4: That's that's how the battle right there, and that's what

1016
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: you want. But when you see a guy go out

1017
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: there with that size and running four to four, say less.

1018
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: And I think that was the thing when I went

1019
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: back and watched this film. He's got a little route

1020
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: running nuanced to him. I'm gonna push your vertical. I'm

1021
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: gonna stem your outside shoulder and break across your face.

1022
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: And then I do have enough juice.

1023
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: He's kind of a long strider, long strider, and but

1024
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: he walks off on people, you know, and so you're like.

1025
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: One thing about a loans crowder.

1026
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: We don't know.

1027
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 5: You done got up on us into it is too

1028
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 5: late and it's hard to kind of gauze you just speed.

1029
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: Also, the thing that I saw about him doing it

1030
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: throughout the season, you know how guys that have that

1031
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: height have that wind wing spanding like to be real Touchyeah,

1032
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: he's a guy that he can he can do either

1033
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 4: or he can put his hands on you, run around.

1034
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: He can beat you with his his savviness. And you know,

1035
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 4: most guys that big don't know how to really double

1036
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: up that much. You know what I mean? You say

1037
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: you have a long stride, he was changing and doing

1038
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: things with his stems that you don't see from big guys.

1039
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: So man, I just think, man, he's one of those

1040
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: guys that impressed everybody.

1041
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: And I love the tenor brought that up because again

1042
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: there's a guy that wasn't on any of my like

1043
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: preseason lists, right but that's where that's the value of

1044
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: the combine right there. This player like it makes you

1045
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: go back and watch the film and say, man, actually,

1046
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: this guy is pretty good.

1047
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: Was it because of what I always say? Was his

1048
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: name too regular?

1049
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 7: Because I know, like a media, when you have a

1050
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 7: baby strap, you have the guts around you.

1051
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 4: Jakobe George had a He's always been one of my favorite.

1052
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: So yeah, so do you show boys went out the

1053
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 5: show their day? Man, we go hold it against shout that, y'all.

1054
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: They won no bowl games and old.

1055
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: Were going on the list.

1056
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 2: So now federal Gover's got three guys.

1057
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 4: Listen, James Pierce Jr.

1058
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Talk to me about him. This is an interesting one

1059
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: to me for a couple of reasons. So let's talk about.

1060
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: First of all, you know, when they say, you know, get.

1061
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: Off the bus guys, he's an get off the bus guy.

1062
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: It looks good listen, you're talking about pass six four,

1063
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 5: I mean sixty five and one fourth. I'm gonna put

1064
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 5: the one four feet tall. That's a tall dude, but

1065
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 5: he plays with the leverage of a six feet guy.

1066
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 5: Like the way he turns the hump and runs the hump.

1067
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: Dumb and knick guy.

1068
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 5: Besides some off the field stuff he might be talking about,

1069
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 5: this is the number one pick in this draft.

1070
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: Like this guy right here. I watched him at Tennessee.

1071
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 5: He's disruptive, he's and I always judge, go get us

1072
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 5: like him on what do you do not with single

1073
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 5: with doubles? He dominates double teams because if you used

1074
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: to getting double team because you that dude. He's been

1075
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: that dude his whole life. Now I told you he

1076
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 5: was six five. Were talking about a four four seven.

1077
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Forty crazy and he's two hundred forty five.

1078
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: Pounds, two hundred and forty four pounds.

1079
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 5: This is what I always tell people when I'm walking

1080
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: across the screen to DC and they say it's five

1081
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 5: seconds to get left to get across the street, and I.

1082
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: See so many people don't make it.

1083
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 5: The first thing he comes to my mind is for

1084
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: these football doing this in four points something sick, and

1085
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 5: they're doing forty yards, not just not across the street,

1086
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 5: forty yards. I felt like this dominant and then he

1087
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: went ten. He went ten to three on the bride jump.

1088
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 5: This is the weird one though, the thirty one inch vertical.

1089
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: That's it's almost my vertical, right, forget what I.

1090
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: Don't need him jumping.

1091
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: I'm you know, the girl I want to rush in

1092
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 6: the past, and maybe basketball was all I say is

1093
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 6: when it comes to the measurables, But like this, the

1094
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 6: measurables in the film's match.

1095
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 4: How many times do we see it? Don't match?

1096
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: But this is this is the whole point of the combine.

1097
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Is you saw it on film? Yeah, and he measures

1098
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: that and he measures the test that way.

1099
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: Well, guess what they talking about old board from Texas

1100
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 5: A and m his measurements a very much, Miles Garrett.

1101
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: But let me say, but he got four sex in

1102
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: his whole career. I was one of the most impressive

1103
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: workouts I've ever seen. So I saw him at the Combine, yeah,

1104
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: and I saw him at the Senior Bowl. That dude,

1105
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean, does the film match though he got four

1106
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: sex in his career?

1107
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: Looks the part.

1108
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't care. So let me just say this one

1109
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: bore sex and they have a test. Well, so let

1110
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: me just say, let me say this about it.

1111
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: He looks good.

1112
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: So Shamark Shewart is the guy you're talking about Jack

1113
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: saying them and he is. He's like, he's big, dude.

1114
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: He's six y five, he was two sixty seven. He

1115
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: had an eleven eighth broad job, get out of your mind,

1116
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: forty one.

1117
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: He could jump from one side of weakness.

1118
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: He was incredible man, and like he got on the field,

1119
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: he only did one drill and I was just like

1120
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: this dude, So I'll say this.

1121
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: He plays at A and M. He plays and he

1122
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: plays four, I plays three technique, he plays nose. Yeah,

1123
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: so he's.

1124
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Playing all spots on the offensive line and this dude's

1125
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: defensive line. This dude's got a motor. Now he has

1126
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: a really high pressure rate, but he doesn't finish the sacks.

1127
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: So what if I'm a coach, I'm.

1128
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: If I'm a coach, I can believe I can think

1129
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say we're gonna.

1130
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: Finish some of those sacks man, because he looks the part.

1131
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: But again, James Pearce Junior you mentioned some of the

1132
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: offield stuff. Twenty twenty three great year, twenty twenty four

1133
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: bad year. But I do think this is a good

1134
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of Like he gets off the he gets off

1135
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: the ball, He's got great get off, he gets the spot.

1136
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: He's a really good one.

1137
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 5: Him him, I Chama, which one would you take it?

1138
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 5: If you got both of them? I'm just I'm just

1139
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: accent like the GM Logan pops. I'm taking Logan pops.

1140
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: You got to do it. The twenty ninth peak we got.

1141
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: Both of us?

1142
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: Is the rather the boat there, I'm sprinting, I'm getting

1143
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm getting Deebo. Sam was run this pick up as

1144
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: fast as he can hand it in because it's smart.

1145
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: Stewart for me. It is your steward for me.

1146
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Reshed you that much. I'm at the Senior Bowl. In

1147
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: the one on ones, I was like, he looks like,

1148
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, like when you go to a high school game,

1149
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: you haven't seen the kid and that dude, that dude's

1150
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: going d one. That's how he looked with a bunch

1151
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: of dudes who are going to the league. Yeah, you're

1152
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: just like I want that guy.

1153
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 4: That was like that when he was watching them over

1154
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 4: that stone.

1155
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he walk over there. You're like, that's the dude.

1156
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: And that's how I feel about it. Man, No, that

1157
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I don't like James fires Junior. I'm just

1158
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: saying that physical profile.

1159
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 5: Listen, that's why X your preference for my preference for you,

1160
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 5: James F shooter guy.

1161
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: I just I have watched him terrorize the SEC.

1162
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: And again last year was a down year for m

1163
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: It was.

1164
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 3: Because he had a couple of injuries, a couple.

1165
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: Of things go on, and they do rotate their defensive

1166
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: defensive live.

1167
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: But I just seen him play high level football and Stewart.

1168
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: I like Stewart. Like you said, he's a Lamborghini trip.

1169
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: You see him, you want him.

1170
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: But I want to go with the guy that just

1171
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: does it and continually does it because I've watched the

1172
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens they drafted. Uh, I don't want to Butcher

1173
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 5: from pn State who had the physical profile and had

1174
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 5: one two sacks in college.

1175
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: Now he's and now he has no saxon No, yes, no,

1176
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: he got like four sacks. Like, I can't ask you

1177
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 4: to go do something you didn't do in college.

1178
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 5: That just like me saying I'm finna draft this wide

1179
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 5: receiver because he running four to three.

1180
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: They like schmoop.

1181
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: How many touchdown did they have a college? I'm like two,

1182
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 3: but he.

1183
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: Runs the fourth three But so something is missing, so listen.

1184
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: So I'm glory ready brought that up because I think

1185
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: Tanna's next guy, the receiver from Colorado.

1186
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: Let's skip the receiver since I did one of them.

1187
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, well both this is true too. This

1188
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: is a really for you guys watching it home. This

1189
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: next one I think is super interesting. So Tanna, let's

1190
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: hit it off, all right.

1191
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: I got Trayvon Henderson b a guy number thirty. He's

1192
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: from from the Ohio state. Yeah, he's from the by Richmond.

1193
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: What he weighed in at two.

1194
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: Oh two bigger than I thought it would be?

1195
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: Arm arm wing span? What thirty and three fourths? Yeah, no,

1196
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 4: my bad. Seventy six is arm length? Yeah, seventy six

1197
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 4: and one eight wing span. He ran a four to four.

1198
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: And we saw this guy play all season long talking

1199
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: about home run hitter.

1200
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: Nobody catch him.

1201
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: I mean, so, so you're telling me now that when

1202
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 4: we watch these guys run these four fourths, they're not

1203
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: getting tested on the football field. So four four if

1204
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: not fast. Yeah, they don't think so though. You know,

1205
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: folks be like, man, he's ran a four fourth you

1206
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 4: kidding me, I've turned down the trash.

1207
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: So he ran a four to four three yeah, and

1208
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: that's the electric time. Yeah, but they also give you

1209
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: hand hand they give you the double can time. So

1210
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: we get that because we're cool. We got cool information here.

1211
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so easily he's going to run a four

1212
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: to three at his product.

1213
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: But they had both both scouts yep, so it's very

1214
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: rare that this happens. Both scouts had him at a

1215
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: four three eight and.

1216
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: You're talking about four three eight hand handclock, Yeah, thirty

1217
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: eight and a half thirty eight point five in vertical jump. Yeah,

1218
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: so explosive. It's all outdoors compact. He's a guy. This

1219
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 4: game has changed to the point to the running backs

1220
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: now and we saw this last year. Yeah, you know

1221
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: they use a two back system. Yeah. He's a guy

1222
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 4: that could come in third down and look and make

1223
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: it have cancer Christmas, kiss your babies to sleep, tell

1224
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 4: your wife you ain't coming back. This is the type

1225
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: of things that this guy doing. He get the ball

1226
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: awaits gill.

1227
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 5: I always give receivers and running backs a tenth of

1228
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 5: a second when they running away from people, just like

1229
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 5: I always give DB's a tenth of a second added

1230
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 5: today forty when they chase.

1231
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 4: Chasing somebody, like because the forty much faster with the

1232
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 4: ball in your hand, thank you.

1233
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I always get much faster. And this is

1234
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: what this guy is. I hate to say it.

1235
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a souped up version of Echoer like to

1236
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: be honest, bigger, might be a little bigger, might have

1237
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: a little more height on him. I guess you say, well, no,

1238
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: he's five teen. Yeah, yeah, Well the reason why I

1239
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 4: mentioned them, you know, we're talking about guys who can

1240
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: probably have had, you know, the stock rolls. I don't

1241
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: think his stock went that far up because he was

1242
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 4: already one of those how they talked about running back.

1243
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 4: But I just say that bingo, he put a stamp on.

1244
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: He put a stamp on anything and everything you thought

1245
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: he was. You saw him tests, and then when you

1246
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: test like that, to combine, he still has a pro

1247
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 4: day to go out there and shine. Like I say,

1248
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: he might run those that four to three four three

1249
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: at his pro day, but I think he showed. He

1250
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: showed those scouts and everybody out there that look, you're

1251
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 4: looking for a gap back to be a game changer.

1252
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 4: You looking for that guy that could come in on

1253
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: third down. Maybe you give him that toss, maybe you

1254
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: give him that pass at the backfield. He saw that

1255
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: all turn the film on. You saw that all year long,

1256
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 4: but now you saw it up close in person when

1257
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: it came time to test. Very explosive compact runner and

1258
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 4: film manages the player. And the crazy thing that stood

1259
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 4: out to me is you had about thirteen Because you

1260
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: talked about these running backs like last week, Yeah, you

1261
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: said it's about thirty on them that probably get drafted

1262
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: clean up four four. What I'm telling you got all

1263
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 4: those guys going out there and showing up, and you're

1264
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 4: putting a stamp on yours. Man.

1265
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just for context on that, Like only

1266
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: nine dudes ran below for four last year, and then

1267
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: the year prior of that is only seven.

1268
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: So like this is a explosive.

1269
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 4: Fast Listen, I see the guys tracking because they fast.

1270
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: And my guy, my next guy.

1271
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 5: Absolutely murdered the draft of come By we got. I'm

1272
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 5: gonna tell you this very intelligent guy, but saying this dude,

1273
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 5: last name.

1274
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: It's gonna be you said first, and I'm gonna give

1275
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: you my version.

1276
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: Nick men worry Nick and Moory.

1277
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: Wait to match it. Man, this dude showed up there

1278
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: and pull a Derrek Gibson.

1279
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 5: See, people don't know the Gipp came out with me

1280
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 5: had the same as Zack measurements didn't really.

1281
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: Yes, he did sixty three and one eighth two hundred

1282
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: and twenty.

1283
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 5: Pounds all right, seventy eight inch wing space, see that, dude?

1284
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: You see what these dude?

1285
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just so you know, wingspan to me is

1286
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: a good way to see, like how big to do this?

1287
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Like it's not arm length is one thing, but like

1288
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: how big your check? He's big big.

1289
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 5: Listen to me, forty three eight at two hundred and

1290
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 5: twenty pounds, forty three ten of what you jumped forty

1291
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: forty four to forty five one?

1292
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: Like you do forty four inches. So I so forty

1293
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: two was the highest you can go. Yeah. I cleared

1294
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: forty one bottom of my palm and they just told

1295
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: me they gave me whatever. So I went forty one.

1296
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: I was a jumper, Come on, man, that was one

1297
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy pound.

1298
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know it's so crazy too, because I

1299
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 4: always bring this up and I don't want to get

1300
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: on me, but it seems like anything that I've done

1301
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: through my draft, you don't see it mentioned. Because I

1302
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: did it that in Miami.

1303
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: They don't never give what's the problems when you're doing it?

1304
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: And when you do it now now now they dog on.

1305
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: I mean they have everybody pro Day is live now

1306
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: the top guy. But back in those days when we

1307
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 4: did us, I rent the fastest forty on my draft,

1308
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 4: I had the highest part.

1309
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 8: It was kind of like so it's like it was

1310
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 8: kind of like myth. Yeah, it was like when we

1311
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 8: ain't gonna mention this about Tenna. But it's just like

1312
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 8: with the they like did he run it for one?

1313
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 8: Did he want him for like?

1314
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 5: Like, so is this it's the myth of it And

1315
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 5: when you do it at your school, but when you

1316
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 5: do it at the come by, this is this is

1317
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: this is loud they were.

1318
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 4: I think they were still pissed with us because we

1319
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 4: was back then.

1320
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: It was were quarter inches wild Roger also in human

1321
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: worries broad jump is crazy too.

1322
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went eleven six damn. So he literally liked that.

1323
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of the craziest comment.

1324
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 4: He was dead.

1325
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: So I just there was a statistic. Did they put

1326
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: it on?

1327
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: They might have put on the TV broadcast, But he

1328
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: was the third player in NFL history. Yeah over six

1329
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: three to jump forty over forty inches for the inches.

1330
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: Then went fur sixte.

1331
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 5: You want to talk about skyrocketing. Yeah, his field matches

1332
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: the player.

1333
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you like his film?

1334
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 4: I like his field?

1335
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: So okay, let me say this, like you watch I

1336
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: was watching the Clips game. No, it was the A

1337
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: and M.

1338
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: It was the A and M game last night. I

1339
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: was watching the last site and he moves around. He's

1340
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: got great ball skills. Yeah, he's a good tackler, right, Yeah,

1341
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: but I just want I know, he's a freak, like

1342
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: you see him moving around, and I just want to, like,

1343
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: my expectation for a guy like this is to be

1344
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: violent to the football. You know, you don't feel like

1345
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: he's bad like what I remember like watching Son Taylor,

1346
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: I remember watching Cam Chancer.

1347
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: I remember watching these big safeties that are coming to.

1348
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 3: Jack you up, to demolish.

1349
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: He's not really that guy, you know what I'm saying.

1350
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: He's he doesn't do that the same way to those

1351
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: guys he's not.

1352
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 4: He will hit you, but he's not urgent.

1353
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 3: Is it because today's game is just not as physical?

1354
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 4: Maybe you know who I wanted to put on my

1355
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 4: list and I forgot last night because I was going

1356
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 4: to put four. What's the kid named from? I can't think.

1357
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 4: I hate trying to remember somebody's name. He's a linebacker.

1358
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 4: You like to play safety. He played at for college.

1359
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 4: He was at USC and he transferred last year. He

1360
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 4: played with a red and white team. He has some

1361
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: someone you think of him? No, Utah was he You

1362
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: might be Utah might be he won't humbn eight or

1363
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: something like that. You like, but we have to talk

1364
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 4: about violent. Yeah. Oh it was like looking at Frankie

1365
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: Louis all over again.

1366
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're everybody hit.

1367
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 4: Was going the opposite way every time.

1368
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can always tell the power movee like, and

1369
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you need to play like that all

1370
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: the time, but I want you urgently together.

1371
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: And so again the athleticision shows up on table. He

1372
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: moves really well.

1373
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 4: He tracks the ball.

1374
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: Better than you think.

1375
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: He really does track him out.

1376
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: But I just like, I'm like, I want to see

1377
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: you be more violent. Yeah, yeah, sometimes you are like

1378
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: you watch the DV from Kentucky.

1379
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: Hairston.

1380
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a little dude, but he no, he's violent.

1381
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: His first step towards he wants to go get he's

1382
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: going down here.

1383
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: I feel like this dude, so I'll get there on it.

1384
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: I just I don't know. It's just certain schools I

1385
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: don't trust sometime.

1386
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: And when it comes to Kentucky, you don't trust it.

1387
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't. I don't trust Kentucky.

1388
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 5: I mean, sec guy, like I told him when I

1389
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 5: was playing this for basketball, y'all got blue grays, not green.

1390
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: I want to say, Fred, you're we're not. We're gonna

1391
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: talking about thirty. Yeah, but those might have been the

1392
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: best guy at the combine.

1393
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: I thought he, out of everybody, helped himself in to

1394
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 5: come by. I think Jackson Dart helps himself too, our

1395
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 5: quarterback from over Miss. But I thought he whatever he was,

1396
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 5: he went twenty, he went twenty picks up.

1397
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: This was up all right, last, but not least. And

1398
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 4: we're talking about guys who kind of either put a

1399
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: stamp on their or their grade or kind of raising

1400
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 4: my brows or Jimmy Horn, Jimmy Horn Junior from Colorado

1401
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: didn't have that good of a season. I think something

1402
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: happened to him in the middle of season where he

1403
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: was hurt. He was hurt, he was missing for a while. Yeah,

1404
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: But the thing that stood out to me five eight,

1405
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 4: one eighth, one hundred and seventy four pounds. That's good

1406
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: and that's that's coming in with a little weight on you.

1407
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: And oh man, you're talking about forty time like, so

1408
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: four to four has to be the new four to

1409
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: three because all these guys that ran four to four

1410
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 4: I ain't seen get touched off all these long Yeah,

1411
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I saw this guy catch

1412
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 4: shallow crosses and take it ninety. I saw him run over,

1413
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: you know, a little deep over us and taking forty

1414
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: to fifty yards and not not be touched. He ran

1415
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 4: a four four six you said a hand time at

1416
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: the four three nine thirty eight vertical.

1417
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: So the explosiveness.

1418
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 4: Explosive, you know what I mean, ten and six broad, explosive,

1419
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: and I gotta steel match. And like I said, when

1420
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: he's in the open field and then nobody's catching him,

1421
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what he does at his

1422
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 4: pro day. I'm pretty sure he's going to shine. But

1423
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 4: you know one of the things about their pro d.

1424
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 4: Do they do it inside because.

1425
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 5: Colorado is always cold up there, So no, no that

1426
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 5: Colorado do it inside the outside.

1427
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: Is he a slot to you? He's a That's a

1428
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 4: new thing about this because way outside. I to say

1429
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 4: to me, the game is wide open now when it

1430
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: comes to how they do offenses. You know the offensive

1431
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 4: structure far as the receiver position, you don't necessarily have

1432
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 4: to be a slot. Just play football, spread open. It's

1433
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: it's a spread offense. Now you have the same kind

1434
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: of offense these guys running in college. They done brought

1435
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: it over to the NFL. So I don't want to

1436
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 4: just pigeonhole him as a slot guy. I think I

1437
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 4: think he can excel in the slot. Yeah, but I

1438
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: think he can play football. He can play receiver. I

1439
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 4: saw him running routes on the outside. I saw him

1440
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 4: get open on the inside. I mean inside. We have

1441
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: to go back to our years when they had the

1442
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: number one guy moving the inside, because you put a

1443
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 4: lot of these guys down the inside. You know, you

1444
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: can't put your two and three guys, two and three

1445
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: best quarterback on some of these guys. When they got

1446
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: number one potential they want to stay outside. Yeah, so

1447
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 4: I don't put them. I don't picton hood him as

1448
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: a slot.

1449
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 5: Maybe Logan might have a difference when they see five

1450
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 5: eight automatically say, but.

1451
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 4: I play football.

1452
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: It was funny because, like you know, you watch your

1453
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: guys run, it was okay, you know for six, you know,

1454
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: for six whatever, But then on the field, this dude

1455
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: was get missing, was dealing like I'm saying, like the film,

1456
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: but even on the field work at the combine, yeah,

1457
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: he was one of the different sharpest round runners man.

1458
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: And the stems, the quickness, the like you know, that

1459
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: ability to throw your foot down, crazy hearty out cut

1460
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: like so I actually wrote down multiple times like Jimmy

1461
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: Horn in the field work, it is balling, And so

1462
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: I think that stuff that Tenn is talking about, like

1463
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: maybe you don't test well, but he's checking boxes like

1464
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: he showed you. He's explosive. He might have had as

1465
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: explosive as you thought. But like on the field you

1466
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: see him moving, You're like, this is this is a

1467
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: different cutter guy.

1468
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 5: And I like a guy that him and Travis had

1469
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 5: to go against each other every day at practice like

1470
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: iron chopping and iron like I love when players had

1471
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 5: to go against another dominant player at practice.

1472
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: Also just being a dog man. You know he come

1473
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: from Ah. I guess, let me say a background. You know,

1474
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 4: his father was locked up and I remember him going

1475
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 4: to speak for his father, you know, tell the judge basically,

1476
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: you know, he would like to see his dad be

1477
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 4: able to come see him. I don't know if it

1478
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: was his senior day or what it was he was

1479
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 4: acting for, but when you have that kind of upbringing

1480
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 4: where you have a you have a you have a

1481
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 4: fit that wasn't present. A president a part of that,

1482
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,479
Speaker 4: that journey, but he was always present here here. Yeah,

1483
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 4: you see the difference in those kind of guys. Man,

1484
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 4: so you're gonna battle test. You know, he's gonna come

1485
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: you know, hungry, you know what I mean. And that's

1486
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 4: what I like to see. I like to see the

1487
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: hung grand guy. There's so many guys that kind of

1488
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: come from that. You guess. You know I had the

1489
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 4: background because my dad did it and my mom was

1490
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: a hell of an athlete. So I come out here.

1491
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: This is effortless to me. You get a guy that said, man,

1492
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 4: it's upbringing wasn't sweet. You know, Prime talked about Prime

1493
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: talked about being that far to figure to a lot

1494
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: of those guys, and he was definitely present in this

1495
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: kid's life and I could just see the hunger. And

1496
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 4: he showed up at the combine. Like I said before,

1497
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 4: you know, I can't wait to see what he dos Projay,

1498
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: because I think he's going to excel a little different.

1499
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a fun you gotta watch for sure.

1500
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 5: Tell Us, I told you I don't really like football

1501
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 5: players from Kentucky because of that blue gray, but you

1502
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 5: know I love me a Arkansas raised something like certain

1503
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 5: schools don't turn down players from the East school Arkansas.

1504
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: Is one of them, Landing Jackson.

1505
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 5: Now, listen, everybody talked trash to him about a year

1506
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 5: ago because he had the lidrid that he was hitting

1507
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 5: the uh that was.

1508
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 9: Him coming out of high school. There was coming out

1509
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 9: of high school, and they gave him hell. But what

1510
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 9: he did to them dummies at the camp lit dummy,

1511
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 9: you won't talk about Hew to date, the guy six

1512
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 9: six two ndred and sixty four.

1513
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: Pounds and he played at the cer ball two seventy.

1514
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: Five and listen to him, so he lost Wait before

1515
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: the come up a big boy listen, this is.

1516
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 5: A big horse right here. He got one of those

1517
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 5: looks like say he had that he had that ball head.

1518
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 5: I was looking at him like, hey.

1519
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: Man, he looked like he was ball here since he

1520
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: was three, telling.

1521
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 4: You right now, you know you ain't got lose.

1522
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 5: When you come out there. I mean, ball head, His

1523
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 5: house a baby. This dude right here attitude like Coach

1524
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 5: Gibbs used to say he's a core commander, but you

1525
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 5: say the red. I mean, this guy looked like a

1526
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 5: everything that coach Quinn say he liked in a football player.

1527
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 4: This house, chicks the box.

1528
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 5: I'm atted two air foot size, physicality, everything you need.

1529
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: And then he tested crazy too.

1530
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: And he tested crazy. I ain't even went through the numbers, right.

1531
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: So he ran a four to six eight and he

1532
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: had a forty and a half forty and a half

1533
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: its vertical and a ten nine broad.

1534
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 4: Dude was a two hundred and sixty pounds.

1535
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: And I'm dude, frank. So when I when I saw it,

1536
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: when I saw it, when I saw this.

1537
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: My heart fluttered a little bit because this guy plays

1538
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: the game tenna.

1539
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: Like a absolute man. Yeah, like he's he's running through

1540
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: your face.

1541
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: Cosby Mex Cosby.

1542
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 3: He is Max Cosby junr Junior.

1543
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: He's a little stiff. He's a little stiff for that

1544
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: shows up in some of the movement stuff five ten

1545
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: five thing. But I don't I really don't care. Man.

1546
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: He plays hard and these are good athletic meserables. He's big,

1547
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: and he is a violent son of a gun.

1548
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 5: And he disrupted and that's what you want from a

1549
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 5: defensive blieman, and that's what he do. He got a

1550
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 5: motor Like you can't teach a motor. I could teach

1551
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 5: you technique. I can loosen him hips up for you,

1552
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 5: but I can't teach a motor. He got gave moldor

1553
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 5: this none stop. Sure, he just pushed hisself up hide.

1554
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: Until one of one of my favorite players in the draft.

1555
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: I kind of thought he was the second round player.

1556
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: But after testing.

1557
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 4: I saw him after the first day of bag drills

1558
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: and they was they was talking, yeah, yeah, I.

1559
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: Mean he's I mean his film is great too, so

1560
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: but a couple of a couple of like little housekeeping

1561
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: notes here about the comments, So again, do you overvalue it? No,

1562
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: because I think with all these guys, we the numbers

1563
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of support the film or they you know what

1564
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean. And so it's not like we're saying these

1565
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: guys are going to jump up because they take their workouts.

1566
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: Their film's good too. All right, A couple of little

1567
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: house keeping notes here. Okay, So in the two thousand

1568
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: and one draft class, which is Fred and Santana's draft class, Yeah,

1569
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: forty guys ran faster than Fred in his draft class,

1570
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: and Tanna was the fastest guy. He ran a four

1571
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: to three one.

1572
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 4: And that's what they gave me. They rounded it because hold,

1573
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 4: so let me put that in most concepts. We're talking

1574
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 4: about your forty guy. Let me put it in more

1575
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: the context. So this is how it went down. I

1576
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 4: told you god, I didn't run the combine. My first

1577
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: forty at my pro day was four three five. My

1578
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 4: second forty, they had me at four two six four

1579
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 4: two eight, So they rounded me up to four to

1580
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 4: three four three one, and I don't understand how you

1581
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: round me up to that.

1582
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: So by the end of the day I was very

1583
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: similar to him.

1584
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I got that much in there, so you gotta

1585
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: go all the way down to forty. And then so

1586
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: there's Cedric Hodge who was six four two forty four.

1587
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: He ran a four four nine. You know the person

1588
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: who was right ahead of him, who was someone who

1589
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: was five eleven two one seventy two, He ran a.

1590
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: Four four eight.

1591
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 4: His name was Fred Smooth, move futball.

1592
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: I run a four four eight.

1593
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: I ran a four to four.

1594
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: Oh, stop in fact check this man.

1595
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 3: First of all, what I'm telling you he is People

1596
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 3: looked at that oh and thought it was I'm telling

1597
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: you that.

1598
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: Now they rounded it up, they run it up.

1599
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: What did they say about that? First though?

1600
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: They showed him Jason Texans, I know.

1601
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 5: Had to be behind this hatred. I knew this had

1602
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 5: to be hatred. I guess I'll go through London forty

1603
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 5: in my face too.

1604
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: Now, well did that show even though he ran thirty

1605
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 4: eight yards?

1606
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 3: Die, He'll let around there.

1607
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: What did you running? It was a four three five?

1608
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 4: He ran four three five.

1609
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: That's movement dog.

1610
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 4: I think he was riding in the wheelchairs that way.

1611
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 5: Jeral Carroll was trying to get their first NFL into

1612
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 5: the league.

1613
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: They did whatever they needed to do.

1614
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 5: He ran thirty eight yards. He was benching four waits, Like,

1615
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 5: what would the school do that? They never had a

1616
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 5: pro player do anything. They can't you you know what

1617
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 5: I mean. So we had a dude, do you remember

1618
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 5: this guy?

1619
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: We had a quality control guy here in two thousand ten.

1620
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't want say his name because I want to

1621
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: get him in trouble. He's like, he's like kind of famous.

1622
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, big guy.

1623
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: So he.

1624
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: Went to his college, took the tape measure, tailored out

1625
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: a tenth of an inch for every inch, and the

1626
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: tape measure they measured the forty forty was like five

1627
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: to ten inches shorter because he tailored. But you couldn't

1628
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: tell because he had tailored. I'm all out, Wow, I'm

1629
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: lending in the same thing.

1630
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. Well.

1631
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: When I first got him for my first weight in

1632
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: no lie, I.

1633
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 5: Was like, oh I am SKINNYA believe that I'm skinny.

1634
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 5: I literally put two five pound weights in your in

1635
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 5: my tights so I could be one eighty like you.

1636
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 3: I did it and got right up on it. Thing

1637
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: turned around like herclee what he'd it?

1638
01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 4: I got right on it.

1639
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: I'm going IY. So, hey, we've all did DVS. We've

1640
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 5: all did DV.

1641
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: Th dude, this is the last story. Then we gotta go.

1642
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: I had a coach in college who told me that

1643
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: you for weait And.

1644
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: He was really his wig in for the combine. He

1645
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: played linebacker and he wanted to weigh. He really want

1646
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: to weigh two forty, but it was like two twenty five.

1647
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, it was fifteen pounds. So it's like, so

1648
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: what he did is he made like a jock that

1649
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: like went in his butt and it was it was

1650
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds.

1651
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, so he was to sing the butt checks

1652
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: together like walking around.

1653
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: It wasn't just to make the weight.

1654
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that? I would be like, I'd be like,

1655
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: hey man, I weigh to twenty five.

1656
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 5: No, listen, it's I felt because he got realized you

1657
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 5: got guys getting on that thing dB one ninety five

1658
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 5: and over there. Then I'm like I can't get over here.

1659
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 5: It was I gotta do something. And I looked around

1660
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 5: that weight room and see them five pounds.

1661
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: Hey, maybe put him in there.

1662
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: Your way is way more palatable, way more easy. Okay, anyway,

1663
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: let's go do it for today's show. Please make sure

1664
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: you like to subscribe it your podcast. Please leave a

1665
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: comment or please leave questions at that hawk outside at

1666
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. I can't wait to answer those questions

1667
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: and uh, and Jason said something hate. Fred didn't do

1668
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: a very at the combine. I don't know what overt.

1669
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: You didn't do a vert at the combine.

1670
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything at the comeback. Yeah, I got

1671
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 3: I need everything, Missy mistake. I got the House of

1672
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 3: the bull Dogs. I brought everybody.

1673
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 4: See in my teammate. You're a gret football player. You

1674
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 4: don't need a lot of kicker.

1675
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: We're not going to over value your combine and re

1676
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 1: evaluating your career. You just see it so sensitive about it.

1677
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: No, because Flitch is a hater. There's one reason I

1678
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,839
Speaker 3: get bad, say.

1679
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 4: Nine years in the league and Jay hates all the time.

1680
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: But that's go do it for today's show. Thanks so

1681
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: much for checking us out.

1682
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 4: And that's it.