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Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. Welcome to this edition of the

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Speaker 1: Rapid Reaction Podcast. Madel At Burke and Howard Cross here

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Speaker 1: after the giants second preseason game, a win over the

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Speaker 1: visiting Carolina Panthers with the final score of twenty one nineteen.

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Speaker 1: But how are The big storyline, of course, is we

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Speaker 1: got to see the starters in action for the first

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Speaker 1: time this preseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to see the stars and actually did

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Speaker 2: a good job, especially on the offense. They did a

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Speaker 2: great job moving the ball down the field, a lot

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Speaker 2: of completions. You got to see Wall or you got

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Speaker 2: to see Paris. Even Hodge's got in some of the action.

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Speaker 2: Danny looked great, very crisp, but I think it was

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Speaker 2: like an eight or nine and nine and ten and

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Speaker 2: something like that. So you like that and getting involved

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Speaker 2: into to the end zone with Bellinger be forgotten. Tight

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Speaker 2: end does good. Devens also looked good, but they kept

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Speaker 2: giving the offense of the Panthers opportunities with small, you know, hiccups.

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Speaker 2: They had a couple of false now false so so

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Speaker 2: you know, for illegal procedures lining up in the neutral

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Speaker 2: zone and another penalty that allowed the Panthers to move

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Speaker 2: down the field. Without that, the Panthers wouldn't have got

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Speaker 2: a sniff on the first theme d Then after that,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, coach was a little a little

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Speaker 2: razzled because he had to call time out, but if

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Speaker 2: they had twelve men on the field, he didn't like

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Speaker 2: the operations. He said, when you're calling time outs and

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Speaker 2: so if you're wasting place that you're gonna need in

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Speaker 2: real game situations.

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Speaker 1: And before we get into the penalty, so I got

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Speaker 1: to talk about that opening drive, right, I mean the

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Speaker 1: first touchdown. It's ten plays, seventy five yards and did

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Daniel Jones turned to Daniel Bellinger. First

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns of the preseason came from a quarterback to

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Speaker 1: a tight end of the same name. Of course, he

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Speaker 1: saw Tommy DeVito to Tommy Sweeney in game one, Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones and Daniel Bellinger in Game two. There's only so

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Speaker 1: long that can trend. That trend didn't go on. But

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Speaker 1: the way that that drive went, you know, the way

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Speaker 1: that they executed down the and there wasn't a single

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Speaker 1: run play in that drive as well. What did that

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Speaker 1: tell you about the twenty twenty three Giants offense?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, when they picked up all these guys,

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Speaker 2: they picked up speed, They picked up a lot of guys,

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Speaker 2: and people say they picked up a lot of similar guys,

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Speaker 2: but what you can see is that now you've got

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Speaker 2: guys a lot of speed on the outside. Even as

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Speaker 2: if to respect the speed, they got to back up,

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Speaker 2: and they back up, you're leaving Waller in the middle,

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Speaker 2: you're leaving Bellager in the middle. They catch the ball

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Speaker 2: the back and catch the ball out of the backfield

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Speaker 2: with a lot of space if you kind of creep

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Speaker 2: up on those guys and one of those guys on

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Speaker 2: the outside there and just blow by you. So coaches

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, got the personnel and Joe Shane's

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Speaker 2: got the personnelity here that can actually have wide open

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Speaker 2: receivers running and they're running place. That is important because

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Speaker 2: it makes a quarterback. Dang, it looked excellent. That looked

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Speaker 2: like a you know Hall of Fame guy right there,

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Speaker 2: because nobody was evenywhere near him the whole time.

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Speaker 1: An opening drive, of course, we saw a little bit

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Speaker 1: following drive on defense extra Lawren's hat a fly. Both

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Speaker 1: times the Giants were able to overcome the penalty. The

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Speaker 1: penalties had been a little bit of an issue and

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Speaker 1: one of the things that Brian Nabel had wanted to emphasize, saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to have some clean games. How does this

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Speaker 1: team kind of clean up those those moments going forward.

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Speaker 2: I think the first two penalties just to alignment penalties,

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Speaker 2: and I think these guys were just excited to be

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Speaker 2: you know, Dexter jumped a little bit. I think Jahid

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Speaker 2: uh and the rest are. You know, they're learning a

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Speaker 2: little bit too, they're learning the fly. They're geting some

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Speaker 2: reps in because I think they called a you know,

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Speaker 2: illegal procedure, I mean illegal you line up in netrals

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Speaker 2: just asking, am I okay, and the rest said yes,

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Speaker 2: then he throws the flag, but you said yes, that

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Speaker 2: says that's one of the things you're just not hearing

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Speaker 2: our communication. I think that part of the good the

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Speaker 2: penalties outside of that, the offensive line, that the second

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Speaker 2: and the night the feet and the hands not in

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Speaker 2: the right place. That could be worsome, but you know,

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Speaker 2: you got to hope for health.

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Speaker 1: What's your start is yeah, absolutely, and it was a

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Speaker 1: great showing from a lot of these rookies too. We

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Speaker 1: got to start with the offense right offensively. We saw

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Speaker 1: back to him the next play, beautiful touchdown pass and

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Speaker 1: really exhibiting his speed on that play. Eric Gray, the

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Speaker 1: nine yard run. When you look at these offensive guys

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Speaker 1: getting saus then that the Eric Gray touchdown came as

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Speaker 1: a result of a big play by a defensive rookie

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Speaker 1: Jordan Riley, who got that stuff on fourth and one

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field put the Giants in

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Speaker 1: good field position. I mean, look at the performance of

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Speaker 1: the preseason, what stands out.

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Speaker 2: I think what stands out to me is John Michael

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Speaker 2: Smith's how well he's playing the first game. Twenty one

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Speaker 2: have given up one pressure, no sack. That stands out

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Speaker 2: highest true speed when the dB looked up were high.

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Speaker 2: It looked up, he looked down and high. It wasn't there,

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Speaker 2: Like he just flat out couldn't keep up with him.

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Speaker 2: I think Banks and Hawkins on the corners, they look

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Speaker 2: they're looking incredible. They look like veterans standing out there,

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Speaker 2: and we're waiting to see some better receivers hopefully next

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Speaker 2: With the better we're better quarterback play and the running back.

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Speaker 2: He's gotten a lot of players, you know, returning the

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Speaker 2: So and there are other guys that are contributing as well.

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Speaker 2: You got Beavers who's coming back from knee injury. He

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Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see how these guys fit in.

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Speaker 2: But the young guys are really contributing. You can tell

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Speaker 2: that the they went from a year ago of trying

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Speaker 1: The over the field, another guy to another second year guy,

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Speaker 1: kve On Thibodeaux. Right earlier this week, we heard defensive

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Speaker 1: to ask Kaveon to step up, wanted a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: and Kavon was welcoming to that and saying, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I agree, there's a lot I want to

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Speaker 1: focus on. In year two, he had a great sack.

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Speaker 1: But not only was it the sack that was something

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Speaker 1: through Ikey Ikwanu as well. What did you see that?

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Speaker 2: I think I Kwanu didn't even get out of his stance.

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Speaker 2: He got by him so quick. I think that's what

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Speaker 2: he's gonna have to work on. Think Thibdau is going

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Speaker 2: and then he can start adding to the repertoire. I

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Speaker 2: think when you're that good, sometimes you get you get

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Speaker 2: so enamored with, you know, adding more things, because you

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Speaker 2: don't want to be stale when people put your own type.

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Speaker 2: But you can do that. You can be really good

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Speaker 2: know everybody's worried about, and if you do one thing

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Speaker 2: that's not that, then they fall down almost because they're

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Speaker 1: Now, on the offensive line, the guard rotation still continued

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty prominent one. Right now we're seeing

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Speaker 1: kind of shore up who's going to play where in

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Did anybody stand out to you for

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Speaker 2: I mean, the center did well. I thought that both

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Speaker 2: with their play. Now, the guard play, it was kind

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Speaker 2: they're keep rotating by the time you start to figure

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Speaker 2: out who's in there the next series and somebody else.

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Speaker 2: But the way they're saying it, and the way that

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Speaker 2: that the guard play isn't it's so bad or anything.

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Speaker 2: It's more that no one's really stood up and took

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Speaker 2: I'm ready, And as they're waiting for it, they're waiting

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Speaker 1: Now this is, of course, the second preseason game. There's

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Speaker 1: one more next week when the Giants and the Jets

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Speaker 1: face each other right back here at MetLife Stadium. You know,

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Speaker 1: you look at where this team is right now, what

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Speaker 1: do you think that the thing that stands out to

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Speaker 1: you most about the identity of this twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: Giants team is that as they're coming together in this

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Speaker 2: Only one game with the starter's playing, but it looked

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Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a game of offensively where they're

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Speaker 2: It looks like there's been a lot of quick hits.

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Speaker 2: You didn't see Saque and barkling there, so you don't

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Speaker 2: know what he's going to add to the mix. It

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Speaker 2: looks like from a defensive standpoint, they're going to be

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure up the middle with Dexter Lawns

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Speaker 2: if they can find two other guys to come out

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Speaker 2: the outside as well, it's gonna be great. Well, Karri

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Speaker 2: Kate looks amazing in the middle. He's sideline the silent,

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Speaker 2: he's playing the past, he's playing a run, he's meeting

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Speaker 2: And that's not blitzing. This is him being able to

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Speaker 2: I think most safeties look solid right now, so they

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Speaker 2: look solid all around. But again they're playing the NFC South,

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Speaker 2: joy to get too high on it. But for what

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Speaker 2: More than that. I think This is a really tough

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Speaker 2: Well it is. And like I said, the thing I

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it pans out. Of course, one more

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Speaker 1: pre game next week, right back here at MetLife Stadium

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Speaker 1: when the Giants host the Jets. But that's a wrap

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Speaker 1: for the Rapid Reaction podcast with Howard Cross. I'm Madelinburg.

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Speaker 1: Finals score today from MetLife Stadium. Giants twenty one, Panthers nineteen.

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