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Speaker 1: bachelor on season nineteen of the Bachelor. He was also

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Speaker 1: an Andy Dorfman's season of The Bachelorette. He I would say, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: you can tell me if I'm wrong here if I

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Speaker 1: remember right. Andy Dorfman's season was one of the first

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Speaker 1: seasons of The Bachelor I've ever watched. And Chris Souls,

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Speaker 1: who is our guest on the in Depth episode this

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Speaker 1: week this month. I don't know how often we do this.

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Speaker 1: Whenever somebody cool comes in, we do this. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a surprise choice maybe to be the Bachelor, but a

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Speaker 1: little bit shocking. Right you were on this season. What

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Speaker 1: was your reaction when Chris Souls was announced as the Bachelor? Totally? Um.

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Speaker 1: I think the two people that commanded so much attention

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Speaker 1: that season we're Josh and Nick, but we definitely they

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Speaker 1: were definitely weren't going to pick the divisive Nick to

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Speaker 1: obviously one. So I think that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Ari was on the minds of the producers as being

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Speaker 1: a possible bachelor, and I think it came down to

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Speaker 1: I was in the top fifty, or maybe they had

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Speaker 1: asked me whether or not. Um, you know, I wanted

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Speaker 1: don't know if I'm down. So I waited until they

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Speaker 1: announced Chris um that morning on Good Morning America, and

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Speaker 1: then I sent in my application that not the application,

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Speaker 1: but like the final paperwork. It's uh. It was kind

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Speaker 1: of shocking because there's so many names thrown in UH,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Souls rises above the top. And he's also

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Speaker 1: sitting next to me right now, Chris, welcome to almost

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Speaker 1: famous in death. Thank you for having me. That was

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Speaker 1: flattered a new story to me. You never heard that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel like I've shared it here before.

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Speaker 1: But I definitely was like, I'm not gonna go on

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Chris is cute. Yeah, well I

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Speaker 1: Uh My impression, uh, from the outside looking in was

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was the case. Was pretty much

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Speaker 1: what I thought. Literally, Uh, during the limo entrance, they stopped,

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Speaker 1: fifteen girls, that's it. I'm like, yeah, so you guys

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Speaker 1: remember on our season. On his season, we um had

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Speaker 1: And then they gave us about an hour hour and

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Speaker 1: I'm married now, so I don't want to go overboard

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Speaker 1: with how I felt in that moment, but um, we

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Speaker 1: you still have that effect on people, dat you, Chris.

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Speaker 1: You know that it's those days are over and getting old,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for you know, um bringing me along

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. So I'm gonna ask you this. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's not a secret who you are and your career.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were the prince farming. Uh, your life

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Speaker 1: for us to have you here, um, it's not only

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Speaker 1: so let's start the beginning. Ashley and I have a

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Speaker 1: your life today and over the last few years. I

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Speaker 1: to Ashley. Uh. There was a scene that is memorable

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Speaker 1: At that point, I was like, this thing could work,

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Speaker 1: my lifestyle is full of like kind of rough and

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Speaker 1: And it's been two and a half years. I wondered, though,

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Speaker 1: I'm only saying this because you have been talking about

429
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: how like there's truly no one to date in your

430
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: city or your town, and um, I think it's I think,

431
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: listening to all of this, I'm realizing all over again

432
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: because it was very evident in the moment, but I

433
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: haven't thought about it for years, how much you truly

434
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: wanted to find a white from this process, Like there

435
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: was no doubt that Crystals was there for the right reasons,

436
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: because all you wanted to do the right reason sort.

437
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: I always talked about how much behaved that phrase. But

438
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: all you wanted to do was come out, do the

439
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: show and then bring the perfect wife and start a

440
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: family in Arlington, Iowa. You had no other ambitions of

441
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: getting into Hollywood, absolutely none, absolutely none. It was it

442
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 1: was that was, you know, like after I got done

443
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: with a bachelorret um, he became sort of you know,

444
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: you start getting people on social media and all over

445
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: the place sending letters, and I mean, I've got letters

446
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: stacked a foot high of people that wanted to meet me.

447
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad's like, well, what do you need to

448
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: go on the Bachelor for? You got all these girls

449
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: that are reaching out to you. I'm like, I'm overwhelmed.

450
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to How am I supposed to

451
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: fly all over the country and meet you know, random

452
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: letters writers that you know I can't do that. So

453
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: I think this is a good way to facilitate that process.

454
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: And because he was scared because I was leaving during harvest,

455
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: and so I was scared because I was leaving during harvest,

456
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: and and uh, that was my biggest concern with the

457
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: whole thing, was leaving harvest. I remember That's what we

458
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: talked about it. You're like, I can't believe I'm not

459
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: here for this part of the year. Scared the hell

460
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: out of me. Scared the hell out of me. Um,

461
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: but it's been It was a good thing because I

462
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: end up hiring a my my cousin to full time

463
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: to take over. He was the only one who I

464
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: felt like he actually could help facilitate a very intense

465
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: time of the year. And uh, he did a great

466
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: job and he's been working for me ever since. So

467
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: uh but yeah, I feel like I'm got kind of

468
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: lost and in a conversation. But anyway, we like that here.

469
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: But I do want to just uh flag something. You know.

470
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: I talked about how you did it and you want

471
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: to go right back to Iowa, which seemed like something

472
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: that Whitney was totally down to do. But then you

473
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: decided to do Dancing with the Stars. So why did

474
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: you decide to like indulge in the Hollywood sparkle for

475
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: a little while. Is it because, like because it was

476
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: such a cool opportunity kind of like the Bachelor, and

477
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money in it if you get

478
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: far um and then you know, something to tell the

479
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: kids on someday. Right. Yeah, for me, it was I

480
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: mean being paid was important. That was important to you know,

481
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: to offset like my time actually back at the farm. Um.

482
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: And uh, but I really loved the idea of the

483
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: opportunity just kind of like my competitive spirit. You know,

484
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: I grew up being an athlete. I've always been uh,

485
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, some something I've always been passionate about and uh, Yeah.

486
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: It was just an exciting opportunity to put yourself out

487
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: there in a weird way. And I think going on

488
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: the batch Herb gave me like a little little uh insight.

489
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: You know, there's a little bit of adrenaline involved to

490
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: you know, being involved in something different that you know.

491
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: At that point, I spent thirty two of years in

492
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: my life farming and being an egg real estate literally

493
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: nothing else. And my first time being in l A

494
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: was landing there on on a you know, the first

495
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: day casting, you know, so it never lived in another city.

496
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: I've never lived in another state, you know. So it's

497
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: like I kind of had my hallway passed too, you know,

498
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: roll with it a little bit, and uh, I thought

499
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: why not? You know. It was funny because when I

500
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: m I was talking to like I had some representatives

501
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: or like meet people that were helping me with like

502
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: media and all that stuff, some PR people and there

503
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: from Iowa, and and uh like I'm like, I got

504
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: an offer to do Dancing with the stars, and it

505
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: just went silent on the other end, and they're like

506
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: because they're thinking, you know, this guy just needs to

507
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: come back and farm, which is what I really wanted

508
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: to do. But then I'm like, it's gonna gonna get

509
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: paid this to do this. So the Stars is a

510
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: lot better money, you guys than the Bachelor. Just letting

511
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, um, And then I have one more question

512
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: before I throw it over to Ben. Obviously, Dancing with

513
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: the Stars can't ruin single handedly of relationship. It did

514
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: not ruin Nick's relationship with Vanessa that was already not

515
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: going to work out, and like your relationship with Whitney

516
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't have worked out whether you did Dancing with the

517
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: Stars or not. But do you think it accelerated the breakup? No?

518
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: I think it actually was gave us a better opportunity

519
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: to transition and actually be um, get to know each

520
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: other in real life. You know, we were able to

521
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: come She she came out and she lived there. She

522
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: lived here in l A And and uh it really

523
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: was uh a lot better than her coming up to

524
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Iowa because it just would have been like really rough

525
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: for her to live in Iowa during the winter and

526
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: have been so cold, and she would have been uncomfortable,

527
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: and then she would have been like, oh wow, I

528
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: really want to get out of it. Yeah, it's hard

529
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: to put in perspective what what it's like where I'm from.

530
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it's a great place. I love

531
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: it and i've but it's uh, it's a great place

532
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: to raise a family. It's not necessarily a great place

533
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: to date. You know, there's not either. Rod and Cows

534
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: is a is a bar restaurant that serves really great

535
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: deep fried rotten cows. Okay, I was like rotting. I'm sorry,

536
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: I must not be Rod and Cows. But you know,

537
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of places to socialize. You know,

538
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: most everybody is older and married with kids, and not

539
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: that that's a bad thing, but there's just not a

540
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: lot of young people and things to do, period. So

541
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: it puts a strain on any relationship, I think, especially

542
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: a new one when you're used to living in Chicago

543
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: or you know. It's that's always been my concern always

544
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: and and uh so it puts a lot of pressure

545
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: on the relationship for it to be like I'm only

546
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: what I can be, you know. And so it's like

547
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: you can't like, if she wants to hang out with

548
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: her friends, it's gonna be tough to meet friends, you know,

549
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: in arling Den, Iowa. And she did have friends in

550
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: l a yeah, yeah, and she had friends in l

551
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: a and just friends in Chicago, and then we could

552
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: have kind of done long distance like back and forth,

553
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: but just committing to that that being she living in

554
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: the same apartment, she could have have things to do

555
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: during the day while I was dancing and doing what

556
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: I was doing, which is it's just a job at

557
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: that point, you know, So it's no different than normal life,

558
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: only you're actually having social things to do, and you

559
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: can not have that stress of being like Chris when

560
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna come home because you're working and I have

561
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: nothing better to do than worry about how long you're

562
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna be working. Have you dated anybody since Whitney? Nothing serious? No,

563
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: I've not really had a girlfriend. I've been on some dates,

564
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: but I've never had a serious girlfriend. I know, you

565
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: get nast all the time. Welcome back to the bachelor world, obviously,

566
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: you responded with Andy Dorfman. Um in New York City?

567
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: Is there anything there? She's been a great friend for

568
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: a long time. Actually, I mean we've we've hung out

569
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: a few times. We hung out after Charlene and Andy's wedding,

570
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, just a great friendship. She's super cool. Um,

571
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: and and we can have cool conversations and and uh,

572
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: but no, I don't think there's anything like romantically there.

573
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: But it's a friendship. I mean, why do you think?

574
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: What do you think it is? That? And I mean

575
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: how many years has it been now? Since Whitney seventeen?

576
00:31:54,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: I think, Um, I mean really it's been what five years?

577
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: I think so five or six? Feeling yeah, what is it?

578
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: Why a you dated in five years? Well? Um, honestly,

579
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: I think you can relate to this, sound Ben, But

580
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: like that first couple of years of two three years

581
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: after the show, it's like, Okay, that didn't work out,

582
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: that relationship didn't work out. Now you have this whole

583
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: different world that's just thrown at you, like put right

584
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: up in your face, and then you have no time

585
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: to even think, you know. And I've rolled with it

586
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: to a certain extent and try to a certain extent

587
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: and try to make the most of all those opportunities,

588
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: whether it was charitable or financial. I did. I did

589
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: as much as I could to build on on those opportunities.

590
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: And uh, I felt like that was the right thing

591
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: to do, you know, And relationships weren't top of mind,

592
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously there was. I feel like it

593
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: was the top of your heart. Though I feel like

594
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: it's still truly was your first number one priority. It was,

595
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean it still is. It's just like it became

596
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: really complicated after after your life changes, really becomes complicated.

597
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: At that point, I really didn't even know really what

598
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: I was for a person that I wanted to be with. Right.

599
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I spent my whole life knowing, I'm I want to

600
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: get from A to Z, you know, And then I

601
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: went from my life went from A too like some

602
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: other planet that I wouldn't recognize, right, And so now

603
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm like regrouping, and like, what what what does my

604
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: career look like? Now? I don't know what I'm even

605
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: gonna be doing tomorrow or that in the next three years.

606
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: I knew I basically as soon as I was born.

607
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to be a farmer. I was

608
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: either going to be a farmer or play in the NFL.

609
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: And even if I was going to play in the NFL,

610
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: I was going to be a farmer outside, you know,

611
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: I would have money to be exactly. So I knew

612
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: I was always a very goal oriented person. And then

613
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: and and that's I felt like I had an established

614
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: lifestyle that I knew I could bring a wife into

615
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: and we would be able to go that direction, have

616
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: kids and all that stuff. But then throw the bastroom

617
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: there and it just changed everything, you know, and so

618
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: you're sort of regrouping and figuring out, you know what,

619
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: how do you even be somebody when you don't really

620
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: know what you're general life is going to look like

621
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: for the next ten years. In that time, did you

622
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: ever think that maybe it'll be best for me to

623
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: not live in Arlington and like to not live in Iowa,

624
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: to like really give a city city life a shot

625
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: for a while. I've always kind of thought it would

626
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: be nice to be able to have like dual citizenship,

627
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, have a have a place where I can

628
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: afford to eventually afford to have like a home in

629
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: a city, and also have my farm and be able

630
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: to jump back and forth. So on your season, I

631
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: was like, it's okay, if we do end up together,

632
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: I'll just have to take monthly trips to New York.

633
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: That's aggression. That's what I told Andy. I told her.

634
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: I told her that, and she's like, well, I know,

635
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: we can do back and forth and we can do

636
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: long distance and this and that when did you tell

637
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: and this? I'm kidding it might have even been off camera,

638
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: but yeah on her season and uh she didn't buy

639
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: it clearly. But I mean, yeah, that's always sort of been.

640
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: As my life is evolved, I've realized that, um, you know,

641
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: the women that I'm attracted to aren't necessarily from you know,

642
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: small towns generally, And not that that's anything wrong with that,

643
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: but like want to live I just want to live

644
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: in small towns. I mean I want them to want

645
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: to live in small towns, but you know that the

646
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: I want somebody who wants to have you kind of

647
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: get out of the comfort zone a little bit and

648
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: then come back to a small town and then still

649
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: have that dynamic of wanting to be in a city

650
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: for a little And I like being in cities every

651
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: once in a while, you know, but I like having

652
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: still like having that the farm as well. So, um, Chris,

653
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: before we wrap up the whole um, you know, Bachelor saga,

654
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know, like just straight up, why

655
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: didn't it work out between you and Whitney, because we

656
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: know that it wasn't because of Ganza with the Stars.

657
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: What it was it that you found out about each

658
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: other after you left the show, that you were just

659
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: too different. Yeah, you know, I've been asked that a

660
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: million times. What's that? No, it's it's fine. Uh. And

661
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's really a single thing you

662
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: can put on that. I think that you go through

663
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: that whole process and it is a fairytale environment, you know,

664
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: and you don't necessarily get to learn, uh, you know,

665
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: what type of interaction you're going to have together in

666
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: real life. I think that as much as anything, like

667
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: just waken up and be like, Wow, this is real,

668
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: you know, and then uh, then you you take it

669
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: one day at a time and feel like if there's

670
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: that chemistry or if it's not there, it's not there,

671
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: and you move on. And I felt like, she's super

672
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: great girl. It's a ton of respect for him. I mean,

673
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad I chose her. Honestly. I felt like that

674
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: was logistically and for me when you talk about even

675
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: having a chance to make it work at that time,

676
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: she was the person that was the one and uh,

677
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: and I think you know, you kind of get caught

678
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: up in all of all of the uh, the with

679
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: the cameras and that the pretty dates and all of that.

680
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: But after that, you really then you then you get

681
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: to figure out if there's chemistry there, and there was

682
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, I think just as a friendship

683
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: sort of level. Um, and I think we were in

684
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: a friend zone for the most part. Interesting, Well, you

685
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: did just say logistically you felt like you had the

686
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: best chance. Did that mean that emotionally that you're possibly

687
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: with somebody else? Maybe Becca? Because I know a lot

688
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: of people watch that finale and they thought his mind

689
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: is with Whitney, She's the smart choice for his lifestyle,

690
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: and um, but it seems like Becca is the one

691
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: that is just not ready to jump into this, but

692
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: the one that he's ready to jump in with. And

693
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, that's a million dollar question. You know,

694
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: how do you even decipher? I mean, I cared deeply

695
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: for both of the girls, right so, and I think

696
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: that's them sitting here with the guy that said he

697
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: loved two girls all right now, this is to create

698
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: awkward situations for you too. So I mean I was,

699
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: I was. I mean, then those are those feelings are real?

700
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: I mean, those feelings are real. So, um, I made

701
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: the best decision I could with the information at hand.

702
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of that's life in general, and

703
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: uh uh you know, and then it's uh, you go

704
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: through the whirlwind of of the show and then you

705
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: wake up to the whirlwind that is life and it changes,

706
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: so you figure it out. And at that point, uh,

707
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: we did the best we could and and then it

708
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Okay, Okay, real last question after you ended

709
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: things with what Ne, did you ever think, Oh, maybe

710
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I can take it slow with Becca and dat her

711
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: in real life because you were both single at the time.

712
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: I can't say I didn't cross my mind. Okay, Yeah,

713
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: is that you're lying to yourself at um, you know,

714
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: there's a level of like kind of crossed that path

715
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: and we went down that road and and for some

716
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: reason it didn't happen and for whatever, life happens for reasons,

717
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: and and uh so I felt like, you know, she's

718
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: a fantastic person, super attracted to her and and uh,

719
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: I think a lot of her family and it was, yeah,

720
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: so many great things. You and her dad have a

721
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: nice little camaraderie. Yeah, her dad and brothers, and you know,

722
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: I'll still talk to talk to all of them, and

723
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: uh yeah, So it's but you know, I think there's

724
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: just everything happens for a reason and just keep moving forward.

725
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, that's the best best answer I can

726
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: give to that. You know, it was a lot here.

727
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: I want to touch on, um, Chris, because I mean,

728
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: you have I think some of the stuff that you say.

729
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if the listeners know this or not,

730
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: but some of the stuff you've pointed to are the

731
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: things that you and I most shared in common. Is

732
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: my first time to l a for casting. Um, I

733
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: come from a super small Midwestern town, Like this was

734
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: overwhelming for me. Nobody got it, Like everybody's confused by it.

735
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: And then we end up here in our life seems

736
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: to kind of explode, take some turns, makes massive changes,

737
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: and for the most part their unexpected changes. And that's

738
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: what I want to talk next with you, is some

739
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: unexpected changes that have happened both of our lives that

740
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: have caused our past to no longer look like they

741
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: did five years ago. Before we get back with that stuff, though,

742
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: I want to take a break, uh, and we'll come

743
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: back with Cristuls. We've been catching up with Chris Souls

744
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: talking about his life on the Bachelor, his decision to

745
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: be the Bachelor, going to dance with the star, it's

746
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: his past relationships. Um, all these things, Chris, and tell

747
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: me if I'm crazy. But I've known you for years now.

748
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: You're a friend of mine. Um, we've spent in the

749
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: last couple of years time together. All of these things

750
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: that we talked about, these questions, are you right? Okay,

751
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: let me let me get let me speak to this clearly.

752
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: Here's what I found out. I want you to tell

753
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. When we talked to you about

754
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, we talked to you about your relationships, when

755
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: we talked to you about dancing with the stars, and

756
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: we talked about all these things, it doesn't we don't

757
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: get to know you as a human any better because

758
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: I feel like there is this level to you. It's like, yeah,

759
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: this has all been a blessing innocence and it's great,

760
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: but it's not me. This is not me. And so

761
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: we say these things, we talked about these things, and

762
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: I when I sit here and listen to it, but

763
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: this isn't the friend I know you're. You're just answering

764
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: these questions like I want to dance with stars to

765
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: get Hey, of course, you did, like, who wouldn't I

766
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: want on the Bachelor hopefully find a wife. It didn't

767
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: work out, but your life has so much more depth

768
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: behind that. And one of the things that it's consistently

769
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: marked you since I've known you is a level of

770
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: insecurity beyond what I can imagine you. You carry this

771
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: insecurity with you with it's where you're from, or that

772
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: you're just a farmer and and honestly, as a friend,

773
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I've never been able to ask you this, but I

774
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: wrote it down as I was hearing these questions. Where

775
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: does that come from? Uh, you know, I think past

776
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: relationships quite honestly, just like uh, you know, yeah, I

777
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: think the past relationships. I've just always known that, um,

778
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: the hottest girl in the in the bar is not

779
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: going to be interested in the farmer and or or

780
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: going and visit. You know, they want the guy that's

781
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: got a loll street job. You know, that's my always

782
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: been my like, not that I've always been interested in

783
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: the hottest girl, but you know, kind of like the

784
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: one you're most attracted to, the one I most attracted to,

785
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: or the person that's that that's that has all those dynamics,

786
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: that's not you know that's got like eight is he

787
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: like everything you want and and she's driven and she's

788
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: has it. You know, she wants a career. You know,

789
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: those those kind of things are you know people. I

790
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: feel like every person wants to marry up right, and uh,

791
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: the perception of a farmer and marrying up I mean,

792
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: my sisters all married everything, but a farmer. My first

793
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: serious relationship, the one for seven years. She told herself

794
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: that she would never marry a farmer because her dad

795
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: was a farmer. So you know, and we had to

796
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: do long distance. We did all that she wants, you know.

797
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: So I think I think it's relationships. We kind of

798
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: created that. All my buddies moved away from the farm.

799
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: You know, all my best friends, they're in cities with

800
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: their happily married wives and great families, and you know,

801
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: so I've seen as as I've grown up, everybody wants

802
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: to get the hell away from the farm. I stuck

803
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: there because I love, I'm passionate about the business that

804
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm involved in, which is farming. And uh, but I

805
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: work with you know, the guys that I work with

806
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: and on a daily basis or fifty plus years old,

807
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: generally speaking, I mean, they're starting to be some younger

808
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: guys that are getting in. But um, the women that

809
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: I run into are at the courthouse and and uh

810
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: the U. S d. A office, which is a government office,

811
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: and they're all, you know, generally speaking, in their fifty plus.

812
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of people meet people in

813
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: life through work or whatever, or you know, going out

814
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: for dinner, going out to for a drink or whatever.

815
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: There's not really those places to go where I'm from.

816
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: And uh so it's just very tough. And I've got

817
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: all my sisters are are in cities, and you know,

818
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: I've had that experience and been been to you know,

819
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: at that point prior to my experience and the Bachelor

820
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: had just in a taste of it to know that

821
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: the girls that I want to date are more like

822
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: my sisters. You know, they don't exist where I'm in

823
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: the you know, vicinity of where I'm at. Right, So, um,

824
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: is this a narrative that you Is this a narrative

825
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: that was proven true to you at some point? Is

826
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 1: it just consistently like, Hey, in the back of your mind,

827
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: you're thinking at some point when I could say I'm

828
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: a farmer, this is your passion and you're a good farmer,

829
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: like you're you're you're a terrific farming You're in a

830
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: great operation for me. You know, It's interesting because what

831
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: you don't know is I sat in that card at

832
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: that day. And what I'm talking about is when we

833
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: pulled up to the Bachelor mansion the day before I

834
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: became the Bachelor, and we did this pre tape thing

835
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: where Chris comes in and gives me advice. I think

836
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: Shan Low and Mesnick was there as well. And I

837
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: sat there and I go, if I could only be

838
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: Chris souls And I'm not saying that, like, I meant

839
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: that because you had something tangible that you were good at.

840
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: You had a skill set you could talk about. You

841
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: had the swagger in the looks you pulled up in

842
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: that car, you got out in your leather jacket, and

843
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a software salesman and I'm not

844
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: even good at it, like and I know it and

845
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: and so it's interesting to me. And I want you

846
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: to break that down that I can sit from a

847
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: distance walking into the same place as America's bachelor. Right,

848
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: It's not true, but it's promoted as most desirable man.

849
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: That's single, you know, in the country, and I can

850
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: sit across the table from crystals and go, if only

851
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: I had what he had. I don't. I don't. I

852
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't be sitting at this table and you're looking around,

853
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: going if I only had what maybe I had Because

854
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: I was a software salesman in a big city. You know,

855
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm super proud of what I do, and I love

856
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: what I do. Um, I think the insecurity is more

857
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: on a on a level of well, it's hard because

858
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand what I do, and

859
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: it's hard for them to appreciate, you know, what it

860
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: what it is that I do. So a lot of

861
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: people get just lost in like the word farmer, and

862
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: they're like, well, you you why aren't you wearing uh

863
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: suspenders and and uh, you know, have a piece of

864
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: straw hanging out of your mouth. You know that That's

865
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: kind of what happens when people hear the word farmer,

866
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: and like, it's so much more than that super dynamic.

867
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Our business is super technical and and it's it's but

868
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to relay that message because it's like most people, unfortunately,

869
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: they're at like a first grade level on what farming is.

870
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: You know, and I feel like I'm talking to a

871
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: first grader when I'm explaining what we do. So it's

872
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: like and then by the time I you know, sort

873
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: of you know, like you I'm sitting here explaining to

874
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: you what harvest is and what it's all about. Actually

875
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: uh and uh, you know, it's like it doesn't nothing

876
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: really is clicking. And I'm like, actually just happy to

877
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: be there. You though, it's not just like out in

878
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: the field you run a big Yeah, it's it's full

879
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: on business. I mean, I I right now, I do

880
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff from my cell phone in my

881
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: laptop and and have employees and we do. I feel

882
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: like I could farm all over the country without um

883
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: actually being there. So it's it is a business. I mean,

884
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: it's a super technical business, super opplicated. UM. But people

885
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: don't understand that it takes about it takes a while

886
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: to really fully gain that knowledge and and I'm I'm

887
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: very proud of what I do and and uh, but

888
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, I think the insecurity is not is

889
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, the people's lack of understanding. That's one thing.

890
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: After the show, I've really made a concerted, concerted effort

891
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: to just help educate people because they finally had a

892
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: platform to sort of educate people on what we actually

893
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: do and how how important it is to our culture

894
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: and how our country and and uh, because it's there's

895
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: a lot of we're three percent of the population as

896
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: farmers and uh, you know, when when the first country

897
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: was first founded, almost a hundred percent of the country

898
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: had was was actually doing their own farming. They were

899
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: sub subsistence farmers. And so we've gone from to three

900
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: percent a lot. It's still three out of every hundred

901
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: people are a farmer. Yes, I mean that's that's that

902
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: math adds up. I still feel like you don't run

903
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: into three people are not or in New Jersey you

904
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: got to go to those fly over states. Actually you

905
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: realize what I'm talking about. That's where the disconnect is.

906
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: And I would say that three percent is it is

907
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: probably inflated because there's a lot of people that are

908
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: sort of hobby farmers and don't necessarily do it for

909
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: a full time career. I got a garden. Would you

910
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: count me as a farmer? You know you you've seen it.

911
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: You see my garden, I've seen it. I'm gonna say no,

912
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: it's gardener. You're a gardener in security sits at both second. Um, Chris,

913
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna switch gears here for a bit. It's not

914
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: a secret that we're going to talk about the incident

915
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: that happened on A seventeen. Um. We're gonna walk through

916
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: this really slow. UM, because Chris, one of the things

917
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: that that actually and I desire to do is for you, UM,

918
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: but not together, just have a conversation about what's going

919
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: on it I can imagine. Um, it's drastically changed your life. UM.

920
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: We've talked this whole podcast about all the things that

921
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: have happened to you in five years, the Bachelor, Um,

922
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: the Bachelor at Dancer with the Stars, I mean, your

923
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: your life exploded to an unforeseen place. How has April

924
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: affected you in your life from that point to today? Yeah,

925
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: it's been been been a tragedy, a tragedy that two

926
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: families were we're caught up in and uh in an

927
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: unavoidable situation that that uh, you know, the words can't

928
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: really describe how challenging it has been. I'm sure for

929
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: both my family and uh and uh the uh the

930
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: other people involved, UM and uh, the lows have been

931
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: really low and UH, but we're uh, we've we've stuck

932
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: together as a family, and in both families, I feel

933
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: like are are having an opportunity to heal and um

934
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: and as much as humanly possible from something that you, uh,

935
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: you really can't you really can't heal from. UM. And

936
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: I know that you know that. Uh, that first six

937
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: months was was probably one of the lowest points in

938
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: my life. UM and something that I'll i'll I'll never

939
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: forget and I still struggle to to move on from

940
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: UM something I think about forever ever every day and

941
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: we'll think about forever and uh and can't can't say

942
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: enough how how much I could take that evening back. UM.

943
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: I think both both parties involved wish wish that evening

944
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: hadn't occurred. UM. But life is about not what the

945
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: tragedies that you've been through. It's what you do afterwards

946
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: and how you move forward. And Uh, all you can

947
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: do is pray and work hard and focus on being

948
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: a better person. And I guess that's the the whole

949
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: focus on It's been my focus in the past two years.

950
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: And uh, well can you continue to do that and

951
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: UM and appreciate the little things in life and and

952
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: try to uh, try to get better. You know, it's

953
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: been two years since uh we've heard from you. Chris

954
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: and Ashley and I both I truly want to want

955
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: to say that we're thankful that that you're here today.

956
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: But I'm imagining that this is not a conversation in

957
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: a topic you expected to be having in your lifetime.

958
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: What has two years been like having this kind of

959
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: defined in a sense most of your life? Yeah, you know,

960
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: you always hear about fatal accidents, you know, and you

961
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: hear about that happening to somebody and think about how

962
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: how that could impact impact their lives and how it

963
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: is going to impact their lives for the rest of

964
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: their lives. And they've got to think about that, and

965
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: you think that will never happen to me, and You'll

966
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: never be involved in something like that, and and uh,

967
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, let's I just you know, you feel horrible

968
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: for them, and you feel like, how are they gonna

969
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: live with that? How are they going to deal with that?

970
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: You know? And uh, you know, whether it's the family

971
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: that's dealing with the loss of a loved one or

972
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: the person that was actually involved in the accident that

973
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: that resulted in, uh in a fatality you know how

974
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna mentally manage that, and uh, you know, how

975
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: how do you move on? And how do you? How

976
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: do you? How do you? How do you? How do you?

977
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: How do you even think? You know? That's that's how

978
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: I felt the last two years, and um, how do

979
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: you even how do you even know what to feel?

980
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you gotta wake up every day. You

981
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: can't just stay in bed. I mean, I can honestly

982
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: say there was a period of my period of after

983
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: the accident that I didn't want to get out of bed.

984
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: Didn't want to there was no hope left in life

985
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: for me. I was I thought it was, you know

986
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: that severely so verily depressed and scared and you know,

987
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: just there was no there's nothing left to live for

988
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, so you but you took one day at

989
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: a time. Luckily have a family that's super supportive and

990
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: um friends that that gave everything they could to keep,

991
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, keep my head in a in a relatively

992
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: good space. And but I mean, there was I'm not

993
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: gonna lie it was obviously. There was not obviously, but

994
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: there was moments where you didn't think it was worth

995
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: worth waking up, and you thought you know, it's maybe

996
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: maybe you know the worst things that you never could

997
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: possibly think I've thought and uh, but that uh you know,

998
00:55:54,840 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: and and when you mentioned something that defines you, UM,

999
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: that's the horrible thought that you know this if I

1000
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: let it, this could define me. And but I don't.

1001
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to let this define me. It's a

1002
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: part of my life. It's this tragedy that happened. But

1003
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I think the people that know me

1004
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: the best know that it isn't what defines me. And

1005
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: and those are the people that that I you know,

1006
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: that that I that have been standing beside me throughout

1007
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: throughout all this. So having the mental strength to not

1008
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: let it defined you and and uh and hopefully as

1009
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: time goes on, Uh, they'll be closure between myself and

1010
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: uh the Moser family and that I feel like that

1011
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: day will come and uh there's only one one guy

1012
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: out there that can truly judge us and uh, and

1013
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: I feel like that at the end of the day,

1014
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: that's where my head has to be. The tough part

1015
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: about podcasts are you know, you can listen to the

1016
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: voices of the people talking all the time. UM, but

1017
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: there's I sit here and I'll I don't know, I'll

1018
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: try to paint a picture for the listeners. But um,

1019
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: when there's a head chills, UM, when you said the word,

1020
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,479
Speaker 1: you said a couple of things there. One was fear

1021
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: and when you it's very it's very few times in

1022
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: life when you sit across from somebody that you can

1023
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: tell has actually been scared about, like scared. And throughout

1024
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: this podcast today, throughout this this conversation, I don't I

1025
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: think Ashley and I are going to claim that we

1026
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: can relate. Um, we're not gonna. I it's impossible for

1027
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: us to early. I don't want to claim any really

1028
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: anything except that, Um, it's been two years of hurt,

1029
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: and we understand that for for you and for the

1030
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: other families involved, and for your family and your friends

1031
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: and for people near you, Like it's been two years

1032
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: of this What would have life looked like a year

1033
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: and a half ago for you? For me? You know,

1034
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to hard to actually paying a true picture. Um,

1035
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, just the will to the will to really

1036
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: get out of bed. Um, just if you just feel

1037
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: like there's no reason to be around. Um, you don't

1038
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: have your stuck in limbo with constant legal interactions, Um

1039
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: that you know, the thoughts of the accident still you

1040
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: know that never go away. Um, you have have just

1041
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: everything hanging over your head. Um, it feels like I

1042
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: felt like a million million pounds on my shoulders, just

1043
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: not not being able to focus on anything, and really

1044
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: not having not feeling like you have any motivation to

1045
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: be anybody or do anything. You know, it's uh, just

1046
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: constant pain in your heart and your head and and

1047
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: not being a good piece of person to be around.

1048
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: Angry at myself, Angry at you know, feeling like I

1049
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: have let everyone in my life down. Um, and uh,

1050
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, and caused a lot of pain for a

1051
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: lot of people. You know why we angry at yourself?

1052
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's just it's how can you not feel

1053
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: that inherently, you know, angry at myself because something bad

1054
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 1: happened and it's caused a lot of pain, and I'm

1055
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: the one left two I'm still here, you know, you know.

1056
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's there's nobody been I can probably if

1057
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: there's anybody who's been in a fatal car accident, the

1058
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: wishes they were not the one that died as a

1059
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: result of it. I think they're a liar be a

1060
01:00:52,800 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: lot easier, a lot easier. I can't. I mean just that,

1061
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: And the worst is just having the It's I can

1062
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: take it, right, I can, I could take it. I mean,

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01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: I'll take it ill I would. I don't have any

1064
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: animosity towards all the bs that was said. But I

1065
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: mean it's a fact that my nieces and nephews, my

1066
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: family had and and their family, Moser family had to

1067
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, I just had to deal with so much

1068
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: more than anybody should have ever had to deal with.

1069
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: And thinking about all that is, yeah, that's that's that's

1070
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: a heavy, heavy thing on ways on my heart and

1071
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: my head and and uh, you know, knowing that I'm

1072
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: I like to think I'm a good person and always

1073
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: do the right things. And I still know in my

1074
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: heart I did the right thing and all the right things,

1075
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: and and a lot of people jumped to judgment and

1076
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: we're quick to assume horrible things, and uh, and that

1077
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: just weren't true. So that was it's a made a

1078
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: bad situation a lot worse for for everyone. You've mentioned

1079
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: a couple of times now, the support and the foundation

1080
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: of the people around you have you felt and this

1081
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: is a two side of question if you felt that's

1082
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: their nation, not only um, the people involved in this world.

1083
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: I know you've been now spent some time with Ashley

1084
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: and Jared here recently, and um, we were able to

1085
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: get to get there, but Bachelor Nation as a whole. Um.

1086
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: And then also the reaction kind of from the masses.

1087
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: Have you felt supported what or have you felt isolated?

1088
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: I can say I felt a lot of support. I mean,

1089
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: I think I felt way more support than I have

1090
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: the alternative. I mean, there's been plenty of plenty of

1091
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: people that that that jumped to the conclusions that that

1092
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: weren't true, and um, but I spelt I felt way

1093
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: more support than I have I have have not you know,

1094
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: really there's a lot of people that stuck by me,

1095
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, there was a lot of

1096
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: misinformation that got out there right away, which was created

1097
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: a narrative that was really tough to get past. And

1098
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: I can I can only imagine, um, how I'd react

1099
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: if you know, even one of my best friends, so

1100
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: I've known my whole life, literally when they didn't He's like,

1101
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know what, Yeah, I know that's not chriss.

1102
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: He would not do that. And uh, you know, he

1103
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: didn't even know what to think, just based on the headlines.

1104
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: And uh, imagine being a fan of somebody and then

1105
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: seeing those seeing some of the headlines that we're out

1106
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: there and um, so I'm I'm super grateful for the

1107
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: sport that I those people that did stick in there

1108
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: and and uh sort of waited to hear the rest

1109
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: of the story. Um, and I have had overwhelming support.

1110
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: Means a lot. One of the things that it just

1111
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: confused me about the whole situation as a whole, and

1112
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: really a new situation nowadays because actually, now I do

1113
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: this show and headlines come through all the time and

1114
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: read these headlines, be comment on the headlines. Headlines are

1115
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: the worst and oftentimes, actually I find ourselves getting into

1116
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: trouble because the truth of the story is not in

1117
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: the headline, um, but the reaction in the story, the

1118
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: narrative is created by that headline. Clickba. These days, as

1119
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: you see these headlines roll through, I mean, I'm not

1120
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: going to read them to you, but with a quick

1121
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Google search you can see even recently, like hey, you

1122
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: know you since the accident, Crystal shows up on the

1123
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: red carpet, Like even today, these are the headlines out

1124
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: there and you've seen them. This isn't a secret to you, right,

1125
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: What is your reaction, especially initially as you wake up

1126
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: to seeing this across everything? Yeah, I mean I can't

1127
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: even explain going back to that afterwards. Uh. It the

1128
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: the headlines and the narrative that they were was being creative.

1129
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: Was you know, I've never been one to read my

1130
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: own clippings, whether it's good or bad, to speak yourself,

1131
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I mean, I just never never bought into

1132
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: butt into the fame of the Bachelor, I honestly and

1133
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: never brought into you know, I just always knew I

1134
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: was I'm the same guy that went on the show

1135
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: that that I am, you know, before and after so uh,

1136
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, then having that the horrible feeling of not

1137
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: being able to turn on the television without seeing, uh,

1138
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: some reenactment of something that wasn't even close to being true,

1139
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, the headlines being everything but true,

1140
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: and you know the people, you know, people you're that

1141
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: were wanted to be your biggest fan when you were

1142
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: on top, we're the first ones to jump and and

1143
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: uh and just carry on a false narrative. And it

1144
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty sad, you know watching you know, watching

1145
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: politics and all the stuff that happens today, and how

1146
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: they you know, how they carry on the narratives with

1147
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: certain things on either side is you know, it makes

1148
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: going through what I've gone through, whether it's good or bad,

1149
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: it's you lose a lot of faith and in uh,

1150
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: in journalism today. I mean it's just just kind of sad.

1151
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: Then people's attention spans are are that of which where

1152
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: they all the headlines are there, and I feel like

1153
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: what actually happened will never really truly be uh be

1154
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: something that will be carried in people's memories as a

1155
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: as a result, because it it's the initial report and

1156
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: then the rest is like Chris, you know whatever, he's

1157
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: that guy that got an accident and did that, and

1158
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, well, I think it has to lead us

1159
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: to the question, then, this is your first time really

1160
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: speaking in two years, one of the first times at

1161
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: least if this is a narrative you see coming across

1162
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: your screen, So this is narrative you're hearing. Why does

1163
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: it take you two years to to tell your story

1164
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: or tell the story? Well, uh, you know, we were

1165
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: in litigation for two years, so it was there's lots

1166
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: of things that go you know, yeah, specifically advised by

1167
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: my attorneys that you know, I just got to get

1168
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: through this and and hurt. How do you how do

1169
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: you sit and how do you sit in this time?

1170
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: And like you said, once a naratives created, narratives created, Um,

1171
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: how do you sit for two years, no matter true

1172
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: or false? In in silence? Well, you know, for me,

1173
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: it's like the people that love me, no me, people

1174
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: that love me, I'm able to tell they know that

1175
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: they're they're able to read through. And the more you

1176
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: read and if you pay attention to if you read

1177
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,839
Speaker 1: the full stories and read everything that happened and understand

1178
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: if you followed the court case, if you understand everything

1179
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: that was involved in the court case, you know exactly

1180
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: what happened. And if if if the only thing you

1181
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: care about is the headlines, and that's and you're gonna

1182
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: judge me based on on just the headline, then I

1183
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: guess maybe that's You're not that important to me in

1184
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: my life. I mean, I've never been on a I've

1185
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: only became a public figure because I was on a

1186
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: dating show that I wanted to find a wife, you know,

1187
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: and I want on I went on a dancing show

1188
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: because I wanted to have fun and dance, and and uh,

1189
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: it was there's some financial incentives to go along with it.

1190
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: If you know, if if I end up not being able,

1191
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: if certain people don't like me based on a few headlines,

1192
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: at this point in my life, I'm I'm guess I'm

1193
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna stick with the ones that know me

1194
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: best and are willing to take the time to understand

1195
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: what really happened. I mean, two years a long time, buddy,

1196
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: are you? I can't imagine two years of what you're

1197
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: hoping for. Then, at the beginning of this, as soon

1198
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: as the incident happened and you were advised, hey, like,

1199
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 1: let's let's focus on litigation, let's focus on the process.

1200
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: These things then stretches out for two years, just ending

1201
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: here a few months ago. Was there any angst or

1202
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: just was there anything inside? You're just starting to get

1203
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: upset with how long this was being played out then,

1204
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: because the longer last the the longer it becomes, i mean,

1205
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: farther away becomes, and then the narrative is just continue

1206
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: to be created. Right now, It's uh, it was, it

1207
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: was painful just to you know, painful for I'm sure

1208
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: both sides. Just how long it had to have been

1209
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: dragged out. And really, my focus wasn't My focus wasn't

1210
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: like I want to feed back in the spotlight and

1211
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: have everybody think I'm thinking. You know, the narrative really

1212
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: became less important to me. It was, you know, the

1213
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: mental health of my family, the mental health of myself,

1214
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: the mental health of their their family, and letting this

1215
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: get put to bed and let's all understand what really

1216
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: happened here and what's the just result, and let's move

1217
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: on so we can all move on with our lives.

1218
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 1: It's not to be like this is over. I want

1219
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: to tell the world that you know that I'm that

1220
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:16,520
Speaker 1: this is just an accident. I uh, that's not my motivation. Um.

1221
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: My motivation was to be able to get on with

1222
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: my life and and work and and let everybody move

1223
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: on emotionally, you know, UM speak to a little bit more.

1224
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, what were you hoping for in the last

1225
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: two years. I mean, I think to have reality put

1226
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: back into place. I mean I think even local law

1227
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: enforcement got caught up in the headlines instead of understanding

1228
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: what really happened, you know, because they had to do

1229
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: investigations to figure out what really happened, because uh, they

1230
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: they read their own breast clippings a little too close.

1231
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: And so it took a long time for that to happen.

1232
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: And it didn't help that it was having it be

1233
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: such a high level, uh high level publicity wise situation

1234
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: that it everybody had to be extra careful and to

1235
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: handle it with a lot of a lot of detail.

1236
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: And and uh, you know, a lot of people told me,

1237
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: if this wasn't you, we've been We've it's been over

1238
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: a long time ago, Chris, let's take a break here.

1239
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people out there listening I

1240
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: probably have a lot of different thoughts, um, but I

1241
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: think one common theme would be, um, Chris, it's been

1242
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: too long, and we're glad that you're you're back, and

1243
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: we want to hear your story. So you mentioned earlier

1244
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: in the podcast about you know, you had to explain

1245
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: farming two girls you were dating. You always felt like

1246
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: it was something you had to like get over. Now

1247
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: do you feel like you have another yet thing to

1248
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: explain to people when you first meet them and hit

1249
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: it off with them. Is that worry you Do you

1250
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: feel insecure about that? You know it's funny. Uh. I

1251
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: mean that's a great question. Actually, I feel like I

1252
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people that UM are interested

1253
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: in dating are understands what happened. Actually, I don't feel

1254
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: like I've never really had that awkward judge moment where

1255
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: they're like, what happened? I mean, I feel like if

1256
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: people really want to know exactly what happened, that the

1257
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: information is legitimately everywhere, UM, and it's it's super h

1258
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: relatively transparent, UM, what happened? And so I've never had that, Honestly,

1259
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that, UM, whether they're afraid to ask,

1260
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 1: or it's just uh, or they don't know about it.

1261
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've just not know. I've not had

1262
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: that conversation and I have that's something I don't, you know,

1263
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: like I don't bring up personally. UM. Ah, So no,

1264
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: I have not had that be I mean someday it's

1265
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: it's it's not something I'm afraid to talk about with

1266
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: somebody that's special, right, UM, it's a it's a lot

1267
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: easier and not not a lot easier conversation. But somebody

1268
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: I care about or I'm interested in dating, I mean,

1269
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: it's not a. It's not something a really exciting topic,

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: but um, of course I wanted to know what happened

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: and and not it's not fun to talk about, but

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely transparent with what happened, and and uh, I

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: have nothing to be ashamed of. I feel like personally

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01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: just it's a horrible tragic thing that, um, I am.

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01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: I wish wouldn't have happened. You recently came out to

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Speaker 1: l A and you're living here for a little while,

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Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I've got a place

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: here right now, so um, just kind of I've got

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: this is my second not my second home for for

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: for here and there for the wintertime, part time to

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Speaker 1: be here. Um, You've made a couple of public appearances.

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Speaker 1: You went to jingle Ball. We talk you jingle Ball.

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01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: How how was it just kind of coming out and

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01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: like living your life out of Iowa for the first

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: time in two years. And how nervous were you? Were

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Speaker 1: you nervous? Yeah? I was super nervous. I really so

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: my publicist talked me into doing and I actually was.

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01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, of course I wanted to go to the concert.

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: I was really a concert. It sounded fun. Then She's

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: like and you got a red carpet, and I'll just

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 1: go to the concert. Good. I'm good without the red carpet.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a really good thing for me

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01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: at all. Um She's like, you are for sure going

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: down the red carpet. I'm like, well, okay, I'll give

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01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: this a shot. Like, I don't think anybody's gonna want

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01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: to take pictures of me anyway, so I'll just walk

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01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: right down. And that wasn't the case. So uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was super nervous. You know. I used to it

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: was like old hat to me. I would like, red carpet,

1300
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: whatever the big deal. I can just snack that out

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: of the park. But it was a really weird, out

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: of body experience to go back down and do that again.

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: Um uh, you know, it was kind of it felt good,

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01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: it felt weird, but um it wasn't. But it was.

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01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: It was scary a little bit. You know. We walked

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes after you, and from the vibe

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: that I got, it seemed like everybody was happy to

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01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: see you. Yeah, I mean I was. I'm happy. It

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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: was happy to see all a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen in a long time. And um, I

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: used to enjoy that, you know, just enjoy those just talking,

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01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, and it was it was easy. It came easy,

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: and and it sort of came easy again. It's like

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01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: riding a bike, I guess, but uh, yeah it was.

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01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: It felt kind of good. Um. And somebody's asking me like, well,

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01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: when did you decide to come back out in the spotlight.

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01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, I really just wanted to go to a concert. Um,

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01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: but I guess you know now I'm talking to you,

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01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: so this is considered a spotlight. I don't know what

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: that the defining a spot of a spotlight, I don't

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01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: really know, but uh, it was nice. It was refreshing.

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: It made me feel like maybe I didn't have to

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01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: hide hide in the closet again. You know, Chris, we

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01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: end at every in depth episode, Um, but the same thing,

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01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: no matter where you come from, no matter where you've been,

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01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: where are you going to? We do the same thing

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01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: to any of our guests, because each one of our

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01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: guests we believe has a story to tell. Um. So

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: we leave it with you to close. I could imagine

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: there's I don't know how many people out there listening.

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Speaker 1: One person, I bet your mom will listen to this,

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: she's a very supportive mother. UM, two a million people,

1333
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: it's been two years since they've heard from you. UM,

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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: send them off and then uh we always close it

1335
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: the same thing that we do in every podcast. But

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: this is your this is your stage to tell any

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01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: of the listeners, UM what you want as we say

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01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: good bout you. Wow, this is a big stage. I

1339
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't ready for this. Man kind of throwing me

1340
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: off my game to create awkward moment people's stages when

1341
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 1: they're not prepared. Oh gosh. I mean, the obvious is

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01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: it's been two years, and uh I have gotten uh

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01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: an immens amount of support uh from a lot of

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01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: Bachelor fans. I mean I've I've it's been a really

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Speaker 1: tough Now. I'll be the first one to admit that

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01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: I can honestly say that that's I've been through a tough,

1347
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 1: tough situation where I don't know you know, I I

1348
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: don't know how you actually would have supported me after,

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, for a certain period of time with the

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01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: headlines that were out there, but people stuck by me.

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: And I've gotten countless letters and uh countless prayers, Uh,

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01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: whether it's through direct message or UM or or actual

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01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: written letters. Uh. Just and I feel the support from

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: from many people and bastination and and and the people

1355
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: fans from Dancing with Stars, you name it, and then

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01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: just just personal friends and people that surround me and

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01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: care about me. And uh and I can't thank thank

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01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: everyone enough for all of their support. UM. I don't

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: know if it's always deserved to a certain extent. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just, I'm I'm completely um humbled. But you know,

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01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: throughout my whole experience that the fans that came out

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01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: to support me because I'm a farmer or whatever, and

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01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: then going through one of the the absolute worst periods

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01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: of my life. UM, to have people stick behind me

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01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: has been humbling and really really grateful and uh and

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01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: hope to hope to be able to be supported in

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01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: the future and and do do some things to help

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01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: help everyone in this Uh that that that has supported me. Uh,

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01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, learn more about agriculture or something like that.

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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: We'll see, but he loves farming. Chris, weind like this

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01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: follow our lead. UM. This has been the almost famous

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Speaker 1: podcast in depth with Chris Souls. I've been been and

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01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm Chris kind of I've been Chris's Bowing, The Bennett

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01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or

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01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,400
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