Speaker 1: The Nicky Gleiser PODCASTO.
Speaker 2: Nik Glaser pos Here's Nikki.
Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to the show. It's Helaser Podcast. I'm Nikki. Such
Speaker 3: exciting news over here.
Speaker 4: I just think that I got an inn on Taylor
Speaker 4: Swift tickets for an upcoming show from a friend of
Speaker 4: mine that I randomly like, just this just shows you
Speaker 4: how things can call all come into place. I texted
Speaker 4: a friend who lives out in LA I don't want
Speaker 4: to like say any names because I just don't want
Speaker 4: to jinx this, but I texted her because I really
Speaker 4: can't wait for the Barbie movie. I'm like so excited
Speaker 4: about the Barbie movie. I honestly don't think it can
Speaker 4: it will be. It'll live up to my expectations. I
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be the funniest movie of the year,
Speaker 4: maybe of the century, and I just can't wait. Even
Speaker 4: though I did think that that little clip that they
Speaker 4: had where her shoe was her foot slid in the
Speaker 4: shoe and her foot stayed the same, everyone was like
Speaker 4: losing their mind about that, but I was like, it's
Speaker 4: not that big of a deal. If that's it's I
Speaker 4: do still think it's going to be amazing because Gretegerwig
Speaker 4: is writing and directing it.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 4: And that did you guys see the Ken song that
Speaker 4: he released and that they released of him singing about
Speaker 4: like I'm only Ken, and it just like it seems
Speaker 4: like it's going to be the story of Ken feeling
Speaker 4: like he's nothing without his connection to Barbie and him
Speaker 4: setting out to be his own person. And Ryan Gosling's
Speaker 4: just so funny as this Ken doll that's taking himself
Speaker 4: so seriously. And anyway, so I wrote her to being
Speaker 4: like do you want to go see Barbie opening weekend?
Speaker 4: And she was like, I don't get back to the
Speaker 4: twenty fourth, but as soon as and it opens twenty first,
Speaker 4: so I'm like, okay, I'll wait. And then she was like,
Speaker 4: but I do want to go to Taylor Swift with
Speaker 4: you because we had talked about this before and it's
Speaker 4: early here, like for me to detect no, that's eleven,
Speaker 4: And she was like, no, but I do want to
Speaker 4: go see Taylor Swifts And I was like, I do too.
Speaker 4: I spent X amount of dollars already on her and
Speaker 4: she goes, I'm willing to spend a lot of money
Speaker 4: I'm like, I am too. Let's do a podcast about
Speaker 4: it afterwards to justify it and maybe we'll make some
Speaker 4: money better that way. And I was like, I go,
Speaker 4: I'll look into tickets later. And I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: going to try to get a hook up, but probably
Speaker 4: not because it's La. And then she was like, you
Speaker 4: just gave me the courage, or like, you just gave
Speaker 4: me the What did she say, I have? Uh? I
Speaker 4: just took a crazy, embarrassing risk OMG and texted blank
Speaker 4: blank about a hookup and she said yes, And she
Speaker 4: said I have texted with her once before and was
Speaker 4: so scared to ask, but once you said you were
Speaker 4: in it, it gave me the strength.
Speaker 3: To do it for us. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4: And the person she texted Annie Swifty's listening, know this
Speaker 4: person and it's someone who's very close to Taylor. So
Speaker 4: it's just so nice And if any I think it
Speaker 4: would be really fun, I will. I will agree to
Speaker 4: meet Taylor if this person gets his tickets, because this
Speaker 4: person's going to see Taylor that night, I would think. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I'm very excited. Was very good news starting the show.
Speaker 4: I was going to try to do a podcast without
Speaker 4: mentioning Taylor. But here's the thing about Taylor Swift. She
Speaker 4: I don't even bring her up, and she comes up
Speaker 4: all the time. People think that I'm constantly bringing her up,
Speaker 4: and I did today and I do often. But you know,
Speaker 4: over did I tell the story about the barbecue that
Speaker 4: I went to?
Speaker 3: And now over the July fourth.
Speaker 4: Kind of weekend that I was with Lee's like mixed
Speaker 4: company that I was just meeting these people for the
Speaker 4: first time.
Speaker 1: By racial and what bi racial, so mixed.
Speaker 4: It was like friends of friends of friends, and they
Speaker 4: were all these people that were and we were walking
Speaker 4: in late Chris and I to this barbecue, and I
Speaker 4: felt really awkward because when you walk into a party,
Speaker 4: you expect people to be like hi, like oh my god,
Speaker 4: these people are here, and they kind of knew we
Speaker 4: were coming, but no, no one got up, and they
Speaker 4: were kind of just it was as if we came
Speaker 4: out of the bathroom and or we went inside to
Speaker 4: get something and we've been there the whole time. Like
Speaker 4: I felt like a bizarro world of like wait, but
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, Like it was just the vibe, you know,
Speaker 4: And so I was feeling awkward, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: my god, did I say something like I just already
Speaker 4: was feeling tense and like they maybe didn't want us there,
Speaker 4: which wasn't the case, but and I was just we
Speaker 4: had just driven two hours from the airport and we
Speaker 4: were getting there and the barbecue happen probably at seven thirteen,
Speaker 4: it was like nine fifteen and so, and I was
Speaker 4: like looking like scrounging around their leftovers for food. I
Speaker 4: just felt like like I was not wanting wanted to
Speaker 4: be there. But then I was like, oh, I'll sit
Speaker 4: down and like have it chat. And then it was
Speaker 4: it was fine. And then at one point they Taylor
Speaker 4: Swift came up. I did not bring her up. I
Speaker 4: was not wearing a Taylor Swift shirt. I was wearing
Speaker 4: a Kendall Roy shirt. I there was nothing that I
Speaker 4: don't even know how she came up. But Taylor Swift
Speaker 4: comes up all the time, and bet you'll listeners will know,
Speaker 4: just start paying attention.
Speaker 3: She comes up.
Speaker 4: People talk about her all the time because she's the
Speaker 4: biggest star in the world. Even Ringo Star said it recently,
Speaker 4: who was of the Beatles? And I sent my dad
Speaker 4: that article that said Ringo Star said Taylor Swift's the
Speaker 4: number one most famous person ever of all time. And
Speaker 4: I was like so excited to send that to him
Speaker 4: because he's, you know, very my dad is.
Speaker 3: The biggest Beatles.
Speaker 4: He's like Taylor Swift, like I am with Taylor Swift,
Speaker 4: but for the Beatles and he and I was like, see,
Speaker 4: even your guy thinks she's more fun.
Speaker 3: He doesn't think she's a big deal, or does he.
Speaker 4: He's just like some days she'll be it'll be cool
Speaker 4: to see her at small venues someday, and I go,
Speaker 4: this girl is never ever going to do anything less
Speaker 4: than stadiums the rest of her life. And if she does,
Speaker 4: it's for like a prome. It's like gonna be a
Speaker 4: special night that is like sponsored by serious XM, like
Speaker 4: the Dave Matthews thing. I saw him at Irving Plaza
Speaker 4: for like a couple hundred people, but that was like
Speaker 4: a one time. She's not gonna do a tour of
Speaker 4: you know, gastro pubs through the Midwest, Like it's never
Speaker 4: gonna happen.
Speaker 5: She's never ever ever getting back to gastro.
Speaker 4: Pubs, yes, ever, like ever, And so I yeah, So
Speaker 4: we're sitting at this I'm like picking at this salad
Speaker 4: that I made from their leftovers, and they're talking about
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift and I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3: I want them to like me.
Speaker 4: I also am aware that people tend to think that
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just maybe they don't think anything.
Speaker 4: But I'm just trying not to. I try not to
Speaker 4: make anything about me or like I don't want they
Speaker 4: all know I'm a comedian probably, and I don't want
Speaker 4: to come in and be like I don't know. I'm
Speaker 4: just trying to play it cool and like low key.
Speaker 4: And they're all like people that are I feel like
Speaker 4: a little bit older than me, So I'm a little
Speaker 4: like impressed with their lives. They are all like married
Speaker 4: and like have dogs and like they're in good places
Speaker 4: in their life, and I just don't feel that way.
Speaker 3: So I kind of am like reverential.
Speaker 4: And I'm at this picnic table and we're sitting there
Speaker 4: and this girl, one of the girls, one of the wives,
Speaker 4: that's how I identify her. Sure she would not appreciate that, sister.
Speaker 4: I'm very aware that they could be listening. If you
Speaker 4: haven't noticed how much I'm tiptoeing around this conversation. Salad,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that salad dressing was so fucking I'm
Speaker 4: not even kidding you. I still think about it. You
Speaker 4: know when you like vinegar makes your mouth water. There
Speaker 4: was like a perfect amount. It was amazing. It was
Speaker 4: an a Mason jar. It was like above and beyond
Speaker 4: whatever I could ever do. I whenever I go to
Speaker 4: the grocery store, pause on, like just a little we
Speaker 4: have to like get off on a dressing tangent. I've
Speaker 4: never made a salad dressing in my life. I don't
Speaker 4: trust myself to do that. I want to be a
Speaker 4: woman who makes her own salad dressing. And just like
Speaker 4: with some dijon mustard, a little vinegar, balsamic vinegarette and
Speaker 4: oil and salt and pepper, I think I just that's
Speaker 4: what just did.
Speaker 3: Maybe a little lemon.
Speaker 1: That's what I do every night. And it's but like
Speaker 1: I did feel like a grown up when I learned
Speaker 1: that taught me.
Speaker 3: Really it's so easy.
Speaker 5: It's crazy for a dressing like that. But if you
Speaker 5: wanted to make something like a ranch or a like
Speaker 5: a Caesar.
Speaker 4: Vegan, no, yeah, that involves sardines and eggs.
Speaker 5: Well, you can vegan versions of anything, it's true, but
Speaker 5: those are those.
Speaker 3: It won't taste as good.
Speaker 5: For my for my wedding. I got a salad dressing
Speaker 5: machine or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's like ki.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell he just said, but
Speaker 5: I'm assuming yes.
Speaker 3: Kui KOUI. What do you spell it?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm just gonna spell kuwait. But
Speaker 2: it's it's called kuwi.
Speaker 5: You put a bunch of ingredients in a little bottle,
Speaker 5: and it has a little like propeller, like like the
Speaker 5: Titanic propeller that the guy fell onto. It's like in there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that is a famous scene. That is I
Speaker 4: would say that is the second most famous moment in
Speaker 4: the Titanic, besides the hand up on the glass falling down.
Speaker 4: It's when that guy goes and then he hits it
Speaker 4: and then he like spins again.
Speaker 5: It's so good, holds up a ten sign and so
Speaker 5: it's spinning around and uh. It really works for stuff
Speaker 5: like you described. But I tried to make ranch dressing
Speaker 5: and it was and I'm with a recipe with a recipe,
Speaker 5: it was repulsive.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, what turned it?
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you have to put raw eggs
Speaker 5: in there, which I don't trust. And just everything I
Speaker 5: put in there made sense. It was like this all
Speaker 5: seems like ranch and then when I tried it, it
Speaker 5: made me gag.
Speaker 4: I'd be so scared to cook and like have something
Speaker 4: be And my biggest fear people who cook for others.
Speaker 4: I just want to take a second and just honor
Speaker 4: you because you risk them. Like if I tell a
Speaker 4: bad joke, we're onto the next joke right away. They
Speaker 4: don't have to finish the entire joke for an like,
Speaker 4: and it's not gonna be the only thing that they
Speaker 4: get to live on the rest of the night. Like
Speaker 4: I'm like, you have to only hear about this joke,
Speaker 4: you know. Like, but like if people come over for
Speaker 4: a dinner party and they're like, first of all, you
Speaker 4: have picky eaters, like crazy, you know, everyone has their
Speaker 4: own thing that like I can't eat this, like, then
Speaker 4: you serve them and if they don't like it. Some
Speaker 4: people don't like consistency, Like it could taste great, but
Speaker 4: the consistency could ick them out, and then they have
Speaker 4: to If I saw anyone pretending to like what I
Speaker 4: ate and like kind of gulping it down it, I mean,
Speaker 4: I have I have so much just uh, what's it
Speaker 4: called admiration for people? Who put themselves out there cooking
Speaker 4: for people like my mom. The amount of times like
Speaker 4: we've just been like I don't want it, like, oh god,
Speaker 4: that would hurt my feelings so much, so much time
Speaker 4: on just being like this tastes weird, this is cold,
Speaker 4: like such little bitches kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never cook for Chris.
Speaker 4: I would never like, there's no he's too picky and
Speaker 4: I would hate to see him be like I have
Speaker 4: cooked things for him, like just warmed up things like
Speaker 4: in a skillet for him before, and he's even been
Speaker 4: like to that and I'm like so offended.
Speaker 3: I didn't do it, like, and I just feel.
Speaker 4: The dressing thing though, Wow, you're a woman if you
Speaker 4: make your own dressings or a man, I.
Speaker 5: Can understand about the cooking. Like sometimes I'll make a
Speaker 5: meal that takes like hours, hours and hours to make,
Speaker 5: like a good hearty soup or a well I guess
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking of soups that take that long.
Speaker 3: Sure, but but I make there's no other examples.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I make those soups, it you know, if
Speaker 5: if Ali didn't like them, I mean, she's the only
Speaker 5: one eating them. It's not like I'm inviting in the
Speaker 5: children from the outside to come eat it, but the
Speaker 5: only Alley's eating it, and if she didn't like it,
Speaker 5: that would be really upsetting. But I guess I'm really
Speaker 5: lucky and that she pretty much likes everything that I eat.
Speaker 5: But also not to not to pat myself on the back,
Speaker 5: but I'm pretty good cook, so I think it's.
Speaker 4: Get to be a good cooker. Were you always like
Speaker 4: did you have always have a green thumb in the kitchen?
Speaker 5: I think it's in my jeans because my brother's a
Speaker 5: good cook too. And I'm not saying we're like, you know,
Speaker 5: the bear level chefts, but I'm saying that we can
Speaker 5: cook a lot of different meals that are very good.
Speaker 5: And I've had like various groups of people say that
Speaker 5: they like what I make, like Ali's parents or like
Speaker 5: friends when we're at like an.
Speaker 3: Air, I like it.
Speaker 4: If I liked it, though, I would be like, I
Speaker 4: guess I don't care if you guys don't, because it
Speaker 4: I'm deciding if it's good.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like I make a cream of tomato soup that
Speaker 1: I love, like I nailed it, and I searched for
Speaker 1: a long time for a good recipe and I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe I kind of nailed it because that's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things to order, and I'm very picky about
Speaker 1: like a great tomato, like a spicy tomato soup, and
Speaker 1: it's hard to find. And I made one. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is really close to something I would get into
Speaker 1: a restaurant and be psyched about. And I was so
Speaker 1: happy and I made like little gluten free grilled cheese
Speaker 1: sandwiches with it, and it was so good and I
Speaker 1: shared it with Matt and he was like, it's great, babe,
Speaker 1: And I don't know what is this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then later on, you know, like a couple months later,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think I'm gonna make that soup again.
Speaker 1: What do you think should I make that or something else?
Speaker 1: And he's like, you can. I'm not much with a
Speaker 1: tomato soup guy, but I don't care that he's not
Speaker 1: a tomato soup guy, Like, because you liked.
Speaker 4: It and it did, Yeah, well what you're doing. That's
Speaker 4: a nice way of saying, maybe he didn't like yours.
Speaker 3: I'd a sweet guy.
Speaker 1: I don't think he likes anybody. Yeah, maybe he hated money.
Speaker 5: It's just like stand up, that's what you're describing. It's like,
Speaker 5: the more you cook for people, the less the thicker
Speaker 5: skin you get, And if one of your feel's bombs,
Speaker 5: you're like, well, it's not that deal. I'll move on.
Speaker 1: But the cool thing about comedians is you guys are
Speaker 1: I guess with a bad meal. People remember a mad
Speaker 1: meal and can talk about it for a long time.
Speaker 1: But when you do, you think, when you hear a
Speaker 1: bad joke, you remember it like I.
Speaker 3: Don't really yeah.
Speaker 1: As an audience member, though, That's the.
Speaker 4: Thing is like, whenever I finish a set and my
Speaker 4: last joke sucks, I'm just like, oh, the whole set
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. The hour and a half I've been talking,
Speaker 4: it won't matter, because you know I've said this a
Speaker 4: million times on the podcast. But psychologically we remember the
Speaker 4: first thing, the last thing, the best thing, the worst thing,
Speaker 4: But we generally remember the last thing and the worst
Speaker 4: thing more than the best thing in the first and
Speaker 4: more so you always remember the last thing, and if
Speaker 4: the last thing kind of sucked, I always would. Ever,
Speaker 4: if you've noticed Anya, when I'm closing out a set
Speaker 4: and it's not that great my last joke, I'll go
Speaker 4: remember the joke, remember the pull the pedophile stuff. You
Speaker 4: guys loved that, like, don't forget the chug about my mom.
Speaker 4: Remember that always good night San Diego. I always like, go, okay,
Speaker 4: well that wasn't that strong, But I do have to
Speaker 4: go remember when we were having fun ten minutes ago.
Speaker 4: And I should have actually closed this out because I
Speaker 4: want to remind them because they won't remember otherwise.
Speaker 1: I mean the count, but audience to remember the bad jokes.
Speaker 1: Audience members will generally remember eighty five percent of that
Speaker 1: set I loved, and then they won't remember the badge
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 3: Really, I don't.
Speaker 2: When I go to comedy shows, I can't remember a
Speaker 2: damn thing. I just remember, Oh I think I laughed
Speaker 2: the most to Christa Stefano or something out of the five.
Speaker 4: Right, but you remember if the if the comedian closes
Speaker 4: not as strong, you might still like them, but you won't.
Speaker 4: There will be that stuck in. It's just you can't
Speaker 4: help it. There is just that kind of stuck of
Speaker 4: like it's little. It's just the if you ever nice
Speaker 4: time you go to comedy show, try to see on
Speaker 4: the ride home what you remember and and test this out.
Speaker 5: It's like you have says with somebody and they they
Speaker 5: blew your mind in bed, and then right after you finish,
Speaker 5: they go take a shit.
Speaker 3: Oh God on your chest? Yeah, Grand finale? Is this
Speaker 3: an alley?
Speaker 4: So I'm at this picnic table and then I go,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't forget.
Speaker 3: I didn't forget.
Speaker 4: And I'm at this picnic table and they're talking about
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift because I didn't bring her up. She's just
Speaker 4: in the ether, right, Yes, she is the zeitgeist, and
Speaker 4: this girl goes. I just I can't believe that all
Speaker 4: too well is about her losing her virginity, can you?
Speaker 4: I did, I had no idea, and I go, I
Speaker 4: didn't know that because it's not I don't know what
Speaker 4: happened to me in that moment. I didn't have any
Speaker 4: animosity towards this girl.
Speaker 3: I did not.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, what the fuck happened. I just
Speaker 4: something in my brain snapped. And it wasn't me being
Speaker 4: like a know it all. I promise you it wasn't that,
Speaker 4: because I've analyzed this moment so much.
Speaker 1: Was me?
Speaker 4: I was angry? It was me? Oh was I angry? Yes,
Speaker 4: a little bit. But I was sticking up for someone
Speaker 4: who my subconscious has convinced myself is a personal friend
Speaker 4: of mine who have spent more time with than any
Speaker 4: of you.
Speaker 3: I think probably at this point, that's just the way
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 4: And it was the same as if when someone says
Speaker 4: something about a friend of mine that's just a little
Speaker 4: false and I just see how damaging it can be
Speaker 4: to have one little false piece of information out there
Speaker 4: that can spread.
Speaker 3: And I just didn't want anyone to think.
Speaker 4: At that picnic table that she lost her virginity the
Speaker 4: stupid Jake Jillenhall, because I don't even though I'm not
Speaker 4: positive about this, I really don't think that's who she
Speaker 4: lost her virginity to. I think she lost it to
Speaker 4: someone else, But I'm not gonna speculate who because it's
Speaker 4: not my business.
Speaker 3: But this was my business because it was.
Speaker 4: I just felt like I get that way with my friends,
Speaker 4: like Chris has seen it a bunch, like if someone
Speaker 4: has a wrong idea about a friend, I snap in
Speaker 4: a way that I can't that I wouldn't do honestly,
Speaker 4: for I don't know. I'm not trying to be like
Speaker 4: I'm the greatest friend, but I get really angry. And
Speaker 4: but the way I just lay it, do you ever
Speaker 4: say something and it comes out of your mouth and
Speaker 4: you're like, jh, you're trying to pull it back, like
Speaker 4: the tone.
Speaker 3: Is already like you hear the tone.
Speaker 4: Coming out, and you're like, this is not the way
Speaker 4: I thought of presenting this, and it's coming out of
Speaker 4: your mouth and it's too late, and so I just
Speaker 4: go because it wasn't Like I just that's I think
Speaker 4: that's what I said. She goes, can you believe all
Speaker 4: do Well was about her virginity? I go no, because
Speaker 4: it wasn't. And it landed and then everyone I could
Speaker 4: just feel the tension.
Speaker 6: Chris was in the bathroom his spoons, Yeah, Kurran's Kurran
Speaker 6: his brother was sitting next to me, and it was
Speaker 6: almost that like moment with Dave Matthews when I was
Speaker 6: like fucky and I.
Speaker 4: Hand on my shoulder from Baba Booey being like calmed down.
Speaker 4: It was like I felt Curran almost be like like
Speaker 4: is my friend being like weird suddenly because Kurin's the
Speaker 4: one that's bringing us into this situation with his friends.
Speaker 4: And and then I instantly went into like, I mean
Speaker 4: it could be like where did you hear that? Like
Speaker 4: my tone became what it should be and then on
Speaker 4: the way home and I'm just being nice the rest
Speaker 4: of the time, I'm like laughing at everything she says,
Speaker 4: like trying to get me again, because I'm like, this
Speaker 4: was so rude out of nowhere. And so then on
Speaker 4: the way home I told Chris, I was like, I
Speaker 4: had a really bad interaction, I accidentally said because it
Speaker 4: wasn't and he was like, Okay, well, why do you
Speaker 4: think you did that? And I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: and he was like, I'm sure it was fine. Oh
Speaker 4: what was my point about this? Fuck? I was gonna
Speaker 4: say something, Yeah, it was just it was just an
Speaker 4: ugly moment. But I just feel like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I remember the same setting when we were in Lake
Speaker 4: Placid last year and I heard a table talking about
Speaker 4: Pete Davidson next to us, and they were just mouthing
Speaker 4: off about Pete Davidson and what their thoughts about him,
Speaker 4: which stuff we do on this podcast all the time,
Speaker 4: talk about celebrities we don't know because I know him
Speaker 4: not well, but i've known him. I just was like, fuck,
Speaker 4: these people with their little opinions about someone that is
Speaker 4: not here to defend themselves and is now whipping themselves
Speaker 4: into a frenzy of like they're piling on the lies
Speaker 4: upon their lies about him and these opinions, and I
Speaker 4: got really loud and I was like, oh cool, so
Speaker 4: many opinions about Pete Davidson, and I like said it loud,
Speaker 4: and oh my god. Everyone at my table was so
Speaker 4: embarrassed and like, why do you have to do that?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, because they need to know that these
Speaker 4: people walk among you and people that care about them
Speaker 4: walk among them. But we're gonna have some thoughts about
Speaker 4: Jonah Hill that are totally none of our business and
Speaker 4: he's not here to defend himself coming up right on
Speaker 4: the podcast right after this, so stay tuned for that. Okay,
Speaker 4: we're back. So yeah, let's do Uh why do I care?
Speaker 4: Why do I care? So this is a part of
Speaker 4: podcasts where we talk about a celebrity news story that
Speaker 4: we really shouldn't care about, and maybe we do care.
Speaker 4: But this one is the Jonah Hill text exchanges that
Speaker 4: were leaked via his ex girlfriend Sarah Brady over the weekend,
Speaker 4: I guess a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3: So they are not together anymore.
Speaker 4: Jonah Hill is now currently maybe engaged, maybe married, definitely
Speaker 4: has a baby with just had a baby I think
Speaker 4: with his wife or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: And so this is an ex girlfriend. They dated a
Speaker 3: while ago recent.
Speaker 4: They dated a couple of years ago or maybe you
Speaker 4: know like I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the breakup was August of last year.
Speaker 3: Okay, now sorry he met youngest.
Speaker 1: Of last year. I think they probably broke up six
Speaker 1: months prior to that, so early twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: August twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Oh, they were together final year before parting ways, but
Speaker 2: they were friends.
Speaker 3: Here is a baby with another girl?
Speaker 4: Like, how did he did he get pregnant with a
Speaker 4: girl immediately after sending these tags?
Speaker 3: I mean they have don't they have a baby right now?
Speaker 4: Yes, we should have looked this up. Okay, do you
Speaker 4: want to check on who dated an informed your opinion?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, at least for being honest about we don't
Speaker 4: really know. I mean just to say I did go
Speaker 4: to college with Jonahill. He was in my door my
Speaker 4: freshman year. He was always very nice to me. At
Speaker 4: a time in my life where I looked like a
Speaker 4: walking skeleton mister bones. No one wanted to be friends
Speaker 4: with me. Besides my close girlfriends. No guys wanted to
Speaker 4: have anything to do with me. And he was the
Speaker 4: only guy from a group of guys in our dorm
Speaker 4: that were like and popular, and he was the only
Speaker 4: one that befriended me.
Speaker 3: So I will always love him for that. And and
Speaker 3: then he went away.
Speaker 4: We all went away for Christmas break our freshman year,
Speaker 4: and then he never came back, and we were like, what.
Speaker 3: Happened to Jonah? We loved him.
Speaker 4: And then shortly thereafter we saw like a trailer for
Speaker 4: iHeart Huckabees, and this guy that we had no idea
Speaker 4: was an actor. We knew he was from la and
Speaker 4: that he was friends with the guy from Maroon five,
Speaker 4: but that was all we knew, like that he was
Speaker 4: connected to Hollywood in any way, and then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden he was in movies for the rest of
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 3: But he was always nice to me.
Speaker 4: So and then I've talked to I think we talked
Speaker 4: on MySpace a little bit after that. He was always
Speaker 4: nice and never yeah, like we but I haven't seen
Speaker 4: him in person since then, and Anya, you ran into
Speaker 4: him in person, I think once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've met him a few times. He was always
Speaker 1: really cool and seems to do great work on himself.
Speaker 1: And we talked about that a little bit. I liked
Speaker 1: his documentary. He did it with Phil Stutz.
Speaker 4: I tried to get Chris to watch it, to be like,
Speaker 4: look at this guy in therapy. We watched like half
Speaker 4: of it, and then Chris was on his phone for
Speaker 4: some of it. I'm like, can you please put your
Speaker 4: phone away and pay attention to this movie about men
Speaker 4: going to therapy? Like, and he was just like, this
Speaker 4: isn't how I'm gonna take care of myself and be
Speaker 4: convinced through a which stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I think he was.
Speaker 4: It was just I was so it was one of
Speaker 4: those things where I was just looking at him the
Speaker 4: whole time and then looking back at the screen like
Speaker 4: did you hear that? Like childhood trauma can be kind
Speaker 4: of like in sepid and what's the insipid? And and
Speaker 4: maybe you don't notice it, but it was there, like
Speaker 4: and it was just I was so obnoxious and we
Speaker 4: never finished it.
Speaker 3: But do you liked that with Phil Stutts of the Tools?
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. It was definitely interesting. It's
Speaker 1: a yeah, and I know some people that have worked
Speaker 1: with Phil Stutts, so I mean, I think it oversimplifies
Speaker 1: so much of therapy, and I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if I love well stuts well, it's just like just
Speaker 1: do this little exercise that I drew, and then you know,
Speaker 1: obviously that can't cure you. I think so much of
Speaker 1: therapy I've sound really helpful is really examining the motives
Speaker 1: and the origins of things and how they play out.
Speaker 3: But they are approach.
Speaker 1: Well I can't explain it because I'm not that educated
Speaker 1: about it, but it just seemed a little bit oversimplified
Speaker 1: to me, Like, but that's how any ninety minute documentary
Speaker 1: it would be. They can't come al.
Speaker 4: So that's how to get people in is to be
Speaker 4: like it's simpler and then they do it and of
Speaker 4: course it's going to get harder.
Speaker 3: But like it's showings.
Speaker 4: I thought it was good because it was I thought
Speaker 4: it was just a good way to get men to
Speaker 4: kind of consider doing this thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think, you know, first, I don't like
Speaker 5: the whole digging into your past and figuring out why
Speaker 5: you are the way you are. It doesn't help. I
Speaker 5: feel like it's like interesting for people to know, like, oh,
Speaker 5: I act like this because my mom beat me with
Speaker 5: a wooden spoon or whatever the fuck it is, right,
Speaker 5: but what it doesn't actually help? Yeah, but that doesn't
Speaker 5: actually help you change your behavior in the present to
Speaker 5: make you happier. And so like I I've been to probably
Speaker 5: like over ten different therapists over my lifetime, and there
Speaker 5: was one that it made me like, right, answer all
Speaker 5: these questions in a journal about my past and try
Speaker 5: to connect things to my past, and and then and
Speaker 5: then put my uh the things that upset me into
Speaker 5: a pillow and then beat the shit out of the
Speaker 5: pillow and scream into the pillow. And I did that
Speaker 5: for a while and it did nothing. It did nothing
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I also agree with you about how yeah you
Speaker 4: go in and I think there's several like memes about this,
Speaker 4: like therapy, you just go like, oh, that's why I
Speaker 4: do it, and then you're.
Speaker 3: Like, am I done? And they're like my curen, No,
Speaker 3: that just it.
Speaker 4: Just tells you where they are hiding, like the things
Speaker 4: like and you can kind of place it. It's kind
Speaker 4: of like enneagram or you like anything any personality tests.
Speaker 3: You go ha wow, it's like novel. You go, whoa,
Speaker 3: this is me. This is so me. But it doesn't
Speaker 3: do anything.
Speaker 4: For you except kind of go pat you on the
Speaker 4: back and go, oh, I'm not Oh it does it. It
Speaker 4: makes you feel like you're not crazy for the things
Speaker 4: you do, that it's not your fault.
Speaker 2: And I think I think it also makes you a
Speaker 2: little bit more self aware of when it's happening. It's
Speaker 2: just like another reason to pay attention to when it's happening,
Speaker 2: and that's where the change can start to happen. But
Speaker 2: I always say, like that that documentary Anya, I think
Speaker 2: when I'm I didn't watch it, but probably therapy takes many,
Speaker 2: many years, so if it kind of gives this view
Speaker 2: of like, oh, you know, we can improve Jonah in
Speaker 2: like this ninety minute series, it's kind of like not
Speaker 2: really truthful.
Speaker 1: Well, but I loved a lot of his tools, Like
Speaker 1: the one that sticks out to me is and I
Speaker 1: completely believe this is true that most of our problems
Speaker 1: can be solved or eighty percent of our issues are
Speaker 1: are you physically taking care of yourself? Like are you slept,
Speaker 1: did you sleep well? Did you eat?
Speaker 3: Hungry? Angry, lonely?
Speaker 5: Tired?
Speaker 1: Does he say that in there?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: But I mean isn't that it book?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that's such a great thing, and I
Speaker 1: love that he said. He's like most mental health issues
Speaker 1: can be like I would say eighty six percent of
Speaker 1: them or something. Forget the figure can be solved with
Speaker 1: did you exercise? Did you eat?
Speaker 3: Did you sleep? Are you hydrated? We anie you were
Speaker 3: even talking about this weekend?
Speaker 4: You were like like you were so underslept and like
Speaker 4: everything is amplified. Why do why doesn't being underslept make
Speaker 4: you like, wow, I'm more happy? Like why does it
Speaker 4: have to go the other way? Like why don't you
Speaker 4: just say the world in the negative way? Because I
Speaker 4: guess you're dying a little bit, and if you don't
Speaker 4: get enough sleep, you die. So it's like a warning
Speaker 4: sign to be like things are wrong.
Speaker 5: Error eerror made you happy? You would you would try
Speaker 5: to not sleep more and more offen can I tell you?
Speaker 5: And then those people wouldn't survive the evolution area, I
Speaker 5: I think I think I just decided on right now
Speaker 5: this moment that therapy for me is bullshit. And I'm
Speaker 5: a guy who has been to therapy. Actually there was
Speaker 5: one time it helped me quite a lot, But like
Speaker 5: I don't know, for I I to me a lot
Speaker 5: of the times I'm just talking to a person and
Speaker 5: I'm like, you don't. I'm running circles around you like you're.
Speaker 4: Like I agree, yeah, yeah, go Like I feel the
Speaker 4: amount of times in therapy I have had some sort
Speaker 4: of breakthrough where they kind of feel like how I
Speaker 4: got her there. I'm like, I gave you that, because
Speaker 4: it's like I fake an orgasm, you know, like I
Speaker 4: had an or like I have maybe had half of
Speaker 4: one where I'm like, okay, thanks, you were there and
Speaker 4: I like had to maybe you were there to facilitate this,
Speaker 4: but like I gave you that and I made you
Speaker 4: think you gave it to me kind of thing, like
Speaker 4: I got myself there, and and then they go like I.
Speaker 3: Think, And it's always I don't know. I just I
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 4: Know that this is just patting myself on the back,
Speaker 4: but I just feel like I'm I'm emotionally aware of
Speaker 4: this stuff. I just found myself a lot of times
Speaker 4: in therapy and this is my fault and this is
Speaker 4: probably something I have to work on with a therapist
Speaker 4: who won't allow me to do it. But I give
Speaker 4: them a lot of wins to like let them feel
Speaker 4: like they're a good therapist. I fake orgasms. I fake
Speaker 4: fake revelations all the time to make them feel good
Speaker 4: because I.
Speaker 1: Helped by anything in therapy.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, of course it.
Speaker 1: Specific thing.
Speaker 4: The number one thing I think therapy is good for
Speaker 4: for most people, not for me, because I'm in an
Speaker 4: open book and I use this as you know, I
Speaker 4: talk about my psyche all the time.
Speaker 3: I don't hold anything back.
Speaker 4: Ever, there's nothing in therapy that I wouldn't say here,
Speaker 4: literally nothing. I just don't hold anything back, but I
Speaker 4: think most people do. And so I think that therapy
Speaker 4: is a place where most people can let things out
Speaker 4: that they wouldn't let out anywhere else, and that in
Speaker 4: and of itself, whether you get any feedback that is helpful,
Speaker 4: just talking and saying things, especially for men who tend
Speaker 4: to bottle up their feelings and not feel like they
Speaker 4: can share their feelings, it's a place where you have
Speaker 4: to do that, and I think it's so so essential
Speaker 4: for them.
Speaker 3: Like you know, the one time I.
Speaker 4: Always quote this, but it was so cute the Chris
Speaker 4: when into a like couple session with me and was like,
Speaker 4: some of those things like I've only I've never said
Speaker 4: them out loud, I've only thought and I'm like, I
Speaker 4: have never once had a thought that I've not said
Speaker 4: out loud. I honestly, I've never just said something, only
Speaker 4: had a thought. I mean maybe that I'm unaware of.
Speaker 4: But he really was like I think all these things,
Speaker 4: but I've never said him out loud. And same with journaling.
Speaker 4: It just that helps you. You need to get them out.
Speaker 4: Being in your head is not the place to solve things.
Speaker 4: You don't realize how much solving you do when you're
Speaker 4: able to articulate something with your speech or with a pen.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what it's essential for it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've had so how many things from my
Speaker 4: abusive therapist Bengo card have I my abuse of doctor abusive?
Speaker 4: Have I quoted on here of like that have helped me?
Speaker 4: Like the one I said it yesterday to Brian. We
Speaker 4: were talking about imposter syndrome and my therapist was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: so you think you've tricked everyone. So you think you're
Speaker 4: smarter than every single person that has ever given you
Speaker 4: an opportunity, all your lists, all your fans, every network
Speaker 4: that's ever given you a show. You think you're so
Speaker 4: much smarter than them, And you fucking David Copperfield and
Speaker 4: they're they they are just these dummies. And then when
Speaker 4: she did that to me, I was like, no, I
Speaker 4: do not think I'm smarter than everyone else. Like if
Speaker 4: you flip it that way, it makes me realize, like, no,
Speaker 4: you okay, now you're being a little selfish bitch to
Speaker 4: think that you're so much smarter than everyone. And as
Speaker 4: soon as she just held up that kind of mirror
Speaker 4: and the second that she made me think, like, uh,
Speaker 4: imposter syndrome actually is narcissism because you think you're smarter
Speaker 4: than everyone and you've tricked people even though you.
Speaker 3: Feel like you're worthless. Flip took.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but for every therapy pearl you get, you get
Speaker 5: like weeks and weeks of therapy sand you never find
Speaker 5: a pearl.
Speaker 3: Therapist.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like it's it's like I feel like going
Speaker 5: to therapy is like skiing on a green trail, where
Speaker 5: it's like at a certain point you're like I can
Speaker 5: do the green trail with out a ski instructor, and
Speaker 5: like they never get to the blue squares and the
Speaker 5: black diamonds. There's just no I feel like at a
Speaker 5: certain point you get the tools. I would understand going
Speaker 5: to therapy if you had no clue about having like
Speaker 5: any self awareness at all, to never explored your own
Speaker 5: emotions and didn't have any tools at all. But after
Speaker 5: like a couple of years of that, I feel like
Speaker 5: you should go on your own and it's up to you.
Speaker 5: It's on you to do that every day, not go
Speaker 5: to there.
Speaker 4: You need some you need an outlet that, you need
Speaker 4: a friend that you can talk that openly to. You
Speaker 4: need to journal, and people aren't doing those things. So therapy,
Speaker 4: I think gives people that outlet. It's like, yeah, you
Speaker 4: could lift weights in your apartment, but like a gym
Speaker 4: is a place where someone's gonna tell you what ectual.
Speaker 4: It's a trainer, you know, like you go do all
Speaker 4: the shit on your own.
Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of intelligent people talk them
Speaker 1: out themselves out of therapy too, because they're like, I'm
Speaker 1: smarter than that. It's for dummies, or it's for people
Speaker 1: that are really fucked up. But then I've been in
Speaker 1: therapy with incredibly intelligent and both of us can't figure
Speaker 1: dick out, And I'm like, how are two intelligent people
Speaker 1: that have bill been doing therapy for twenty years be
Speaker 1: fighting about the dumbest shit and then I were creatures of.
Speaker 4: Habit because one is a perfect example of therapy working
Speaker 4: for someone so much like Noah is always the one
Speaker 4: whenever I'm going off on the girl's chat to be like,
Speaker 4: have you maybe considered getting back into therapy, like she
Speaker 4: always tears me back into therapy because you had such
Speaker 4: profound effects from it, And you're one of the smartest
Speaker 4: people I know, emotionally intelligent, beyond anything I could ever be.
Speaker 4: You always have such poignant the old meaning that I
Speaker 4: used to think words of wisdom, and I know that
Speaker 4: you weren't like that before. I didn't know the Nora
Speaker 4: before therapy, but you were like a lost little bird,
Speaker 4: an angry lost little bird. Right, Yes, wasn't therapy your
Speaker 4: turning point?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Like for me therapy, I just like knew that I
Speaker 2: was destined to have my parents' relationship. And even though
Speaker 2: like I learned things from my parents that I didn't
Speaker 2: want to be, didn't want to have, even though I
Speaker 2: was like still like I was conscious of that, I
Speaker 2: just kept going in the way of creating the things
Speaker 2: that I didn't want, Like I didn't know how to
Speaker 2: not get those things. And that's where therapy has truly
Speaker 2: helped me. And like I was saying, sometimes I'll revert
Speaker 2: to my old self because it's you know, like this
Speaker 2: is stuff from when I was a baby though that
Speaker 2: started like wiring and like looping together, and now I'm
Speaker 2: like unwiring and then I have to rewire, and I
Speaker 2: think it's just kind of like going to be my
Speaker 2: life's work to do that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: The amount of times that the person I chose, who
Speaker 4: reminds me nothing of my dad then does something exactly
Speaker 4: like my dad, or like is ex or we act
Speaker 4: out this dynamic that my mom and dad have. The
Speaker 4: number of times that's happened, even though I'm doing everything
Speaker 4: to not do that and I don't want that is
Speaker 4: astounding to me. And like through it's just so subconscious
Speaker 4: the things that we want to play out.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: The big thing is that we are always acting out
Speaker 4: the stories of our childhood to complete them because we
Speaker 4: got these like mixed messages or like these these stories.
Speaker 4: Like the story might be like you don't deserve love,
Speaker 4: like your mom didn't give you enough attention, your dad
Speaker 4: didn't wasn't around, he didn't hug you or say I
Speaker 4: love you, so you're trying to complete that story of
Speaker 4: like I am not lovable, like I got this feeling
Speaker 4: as a child. I'm not, but like I never hurt,
Speaker 4: Like I need to prove that to myself the rest
Speaker 4: of my life. And it feels comfortable because it's what
Speaker 4: you knew as a kid and you don't know anything else.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 4: Therapy helps you identify those and do your best, even
Speaker 4: though it's hard to steer clear of that and do
Speaker 4: the opposite. I mean, I think we were talking about
Speaker 4: it yesterday, but Anya, like the reason you ended up
Speaker 4: with Matt was or like we're attracted to someone like
Speaker 4: Matt or got him in the end was you had
Speaker 4: to do the opposite action of what you were naturally
Speaker 4: wanting to do. You naturally wanted to reach out to
Speaker 4: him all the time. You nactually wanted to buy him
Speaker 4: gifts or like write him like sweet things, send him
Speaker 4: like sweet pictures of yourself, convince him like.
Speaker 1: Those should be together, tell me how he needs to
Speaker 1: fix himself.
Speaker 4: But the hard thing was telling him like, you know,
Speaker 4: this is what I want and I can't really talk
Speaker 4: to you unless we have that, and like and not
Speaker 4: settling for any less and so yeah, just you have
Speaker 4: someone in your corner with therapy to help you figure
Speaker 4: out those kinds of actions and then you know, help
Speaker 4: you stick to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, therapy and definitely like non therapy approaches to which
Speaker 1: is really just like Brian's talking about, like self reflective
Speaker 1: work stuff where you truly get to know who you are.
Speaker 1: Like before I would say, before I got sober and
Speaker 1: like started in recovery and all that, I was the
Speaker 1: most passive, aggressive person, had no idea of my own
Speaker 1: intentions at all. And then once I stopped drinking. And
Speaker 1: what's for an example, Like I remember a girlfriend of mine.
Speaker 1: This is such a dumb example, but a girlfriend of
Speaker 1: mine was dating a guy and they broke up and
Speaker 1: I ran into him a couple months later, and then
Speaker 1: I texted her, oh my god, I ran into your
Speaker 1: ex and she was like, uh yeah, and I wrote
Speaker 1: back like he's so cute, and she's like, if you
Speaker 1: want to date him, you can date him, and I
Speaker 1: was like lol haha. I would never Oh my god, no,
Speaker 1: like was going this is in my twenties, Like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I would never not knowing I was attracted
Speaker 1: to him, I probably subconsciously reached out to her to
Speaker 1: get some kind of permission and had no idea about
Speaker 1: anything what you.
Speaker 4: Wanted from her, And yeah, absolutely was Oh my god,
Speaker 4: you should date him.
Speaker 3: I don't care at all. I don't like him at all.
Speaker 3: You should date him, clearly there's something there.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I wasn't giving your a say, stop being
Speaker 1: passive aggressive, Anya, and just do She said, you can
Speaker 1: date him if you want, And then I did this
Speaker 1: whole fucking number. Oh my god, no, no, no, and she said,
Speaker 1: stop being passive aggressive period. You can like just be direct,
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. I gave you permission,
Speaker 1: and I called her. She didn't pick up, and she
Speaker 1: was a badass. She was like a recovery badass person.
Speaker 1: And I remember I like looked up passive aggressive, thought
Speaker 1: to myself, this is not the first time someone has
Speaker 1: called me this. I don't know what this is, and
Speaker 1: started like you know, over the years, realizing, oh god,
Speaker 1: I am I do not know my own motives. Why
Speaker 1: do I not know my own motives for stuff? I'm
Speaker 1: too busy people pleasing and trying to do impression management
Speaker 1: and control everybody's impression of me, and like be the
Speaker 1: good girl and be the liked girl that I can't
Speaker 1: be like, dude, I run into your ex, would it
Speaker 1: be so weird if I went out with her like
Speaker 1: we How do you feel about that?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: No way would I have ever said that?
Speaker 5: So now I scared you. So you learn that in
Speaker 5: your twenties. So then you go to therapy now and
Speaker 5: you're talking about this stuff to your therapist, and then
Speaker 5: your therapist says something like have you ever heard of
Speaker 5: the word passive aggressive?
Speaker 3: And then that's exactly what happens in therapy.
Speaker 5: What the fuck? Court you go?
Speaker 3: Whoa mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: I mean that's how still now this is like dating,
Speaker 4: but a good therapist, which is an essential part of life.
Speaker 4: I think, or of self care is just as hard
Speaker 4: as finding a partner. It's not gonna you have to
Speaker 4: That's why you've been through ten That's why I've been
Speaker 4: through probably over thirty at this point, of different people
Speaker 4: I've met throughout the years, and it takes one.
Speaker 1: I always have to go. It's not like you have
Speaker 1: to go every week or whatever, like I haven't. I've
Speaker 1: been doing some couples therapy, but I haven't been to
Speaker 1: like one on one therapy, I would say in Scott
Speaker 1: several months. So it's not like I'm doing it con.
Speaker 4: Yesterday I had a really good moment, but I felt
Speaker 4: so guilty about it. I was on a call with
Speaker 4: the network that is doing the show, so it's like
Speaker 4: the people that are like in charge of everything, and
Speaker 4: they're the ones that you ask the most too yes,
Speaker 4: And I had this zoom call with them that I
Speaker 4: forgot to get on. And by the way, I have
Speaker 4: also I was having voice issues when they wanted me
Speaker 4: to come to this like team meeting with where I
Speaker 4: would meet them, and so I canceled that that day
Speaker 4: because I was like, I just don't have a voice
Speaker 4: for it. And I took care of myself that day.
Speaker 4: And I was also like, we already got the show.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna meet them on set like like I don't
Speaker 4: need to do this and they'll understand, Like I really
Speaker 4: couldn't make it. So yesterday we were shooting all day
Speaker 4: and then like on my little one hour break that
Speaker 4: I have from this fucking eleven hour day to eat
Speaker 4: lunch and to relax and to get change out of
Speaker 4: my dress and everything like that, they're like, you want
Speaker 4: to jump on the zoom and I'm like, oh fuck,
Speaker 4: it forgot so I get on the zoom and there's
Speaker 4: like these three women that are like so awesome, so nice,
Speaker 4: so excited, and this is the first time I'm meeting
Speaker 4: the network, the big wigs, and we're talking about the
Speaker 4: show and we're so excited and we're like just like
Speaker 4: getting to know each other. But my stomach is desperate
Speaker 4: for the food that I was just stuffing in my
Speaker 4: face in front of me that I had to stop
Speaker 4: because now I'm on a zoom. So I'm like looking
Speaker 4: at the food. I realized that in ten minutes I
Speaker 4: have to start getting into hair and makeup again. And
Speaker 4: I'm and we've already covered. We're excited about the show.
Speaker 4: Here's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna meet them tomorrow. They're
Speaker 4: gonna be on.
Speaker 3: Set and da da.
Speaker 4: And then another person jumps on the meeting a little late,
Speaker 4: one of my people on my team, so I already
Speaker 4: know that person and they jump on and then I realize,
Speaker 4: oh my god, he's jumped on late. We're gonna have
Speaker 4: to do this all over again and go over. We're excited,
Speaker 4: here's what's happened. Like I was just like I see this,
Speaker 4: this is not gonna end anytime soon.
Speaker 3: And I had just low.
Speaker 4: Enough blood sugar, not enough caffeine, a little too tired,
Speaker 4: a little too like thinking about my day, and I
Speaker 4: just was like, I want you to know all too well.
Speaker 3: Wasn't about her losing. No, No, I.
Speaker 4: Had that moment though, I just go, guys, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 4: I have to be in my makeup chair in fifteen
Speaker 4: s It's something like I have to be back in
Speaker 4: clothes and dressed in fifteen minutes. I haven't eaten lunch.
Speaker 4: I really I can't wait to meet you tomorrow, but
Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump off.
Speaker 3: I have never once.
Speaker 4: Ever done that to my bosses, Like can you imagine
Speaker 4: doing that to your boss? And I was thinking I
Speaker 4: was trying to channel Whitney Cummings or like someone who's like, girl,
Speaker 4: you need to take care of yourself, like like someone
Speaker 4: just being like listen to me, like holding my face
Speaker 4: and being.
Speaker 3: Like you need to take care of yourself, you know,
Speaker 3: like just do it.
Speaker 4: And then I was also had the thought of like, no,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm generally a very nice person to everyone on set,
Speaker 4: no matter what level you're at. I'm never like I've
Speaker 4: heard horror stories about celebrities and like them, and and
Speaker 4: and the ones that are like aggressive and like stand
Speaker 4: up for themselves and aren't like people pleasing all the
Speaker 4: time tend to get more work than anyone. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: if this goes the way I don't want it to,
Speaker 4: and they think I'm a huge bitch who thinks them
Speaker 4: I'm better than them, and I don't really care about
Speaker 4: this meeting, which is none of that's true. If they
Speaker 4: do take that away, it'll only benefit me because everyone
Speaker 4: likes someone who tends to come off like a cunt anyway,
Speaker 4: Like cunts get so much work in this town. So
Speaker 4: and the off chance they do think I'm a cunt,
Speaker 4: which I'm not, it'll probably benefit me.
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna do it.
Speaker 4: And I and Brian was in the room when I
Speaker 4: did it, because I oh also Brian was at craft
Speaker 4: Services and texting me like pictures of what I wanted,
Speaker 4: and I was couldn't get back to him because if
Speaker 4: you go to a different screen on your zoom on
Speaker 4: your phone, you don't, it goes blank and they know
Speaker 4: you're doing something else, and they would have thought I
Speaker 4: was like posting a thread or some shit, So I
Speaker 4: like couldn't look at the pictures he was sending, and
Speaker 4: I was like, and I knew he was not gonna
Speaker 4: just wait there all day for me to get back
Speaker 4: to him, and so I and he was and the
Speaker 4: craft service is far away, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna miss out on four food and all I had
Speaker 4: was these two little dumb side salads and I was
Speaker 4: just panicking, and so I just and then Brian walked
Speaker 4: back in coming back from Craft Service, and then I
Speaker 4: just like did it, And I was like, I need
Speaker 4: to pull the plug on this, and I was like,
Speaker 4: after I said it, I was and just put down
Speaker 4: the phone. I was like, oh no, And I instantly
Speaker 4: texted the two other guys on the phone, which are
Speaker 4: also kind of my bosses, the EPs of the show,
Speaker 4: and I'm an EP on the show, but they're like
Speaker 4: EEPs and executive executive piece and so I texted them
Speaker 4: both like I'm so sorry I had to jump, and
Speaker 4: I could tell that they were probably like our talent
Speaker 4: is like kind of being a little in the past.
Speaker 4: I will like go down on the network, like I'll
Speaker 4: be like, do you want to just step off to
Speaker 4: the side, and I can like blow.
Speaker 3: You for a couple of minutes like, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: I don't deserve this job, like I I will do
Speaker 4: anything for the network. And I was just it was
Speaker 4: the first time I ever stood up for myself and
Speaker 4: was like, I'm I'm doing too much today. There's I
Speaker 4: don't need to be having an innocuous conversation on Zoom.
Speaker 4: We've already covered all the bases. It's just going to
Speaker 4: be more like small talk. And I showed up do any.
Speaker 3: More small talk?
Speaker 1: You showed up on time?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it was a little late to that Zoom,
Speaker 3: but I did show up. I did it.
Speaker 4: And but I would say ninety percent of talent would
Speaker 4: not have done what I did. And I was a
Speaker 4: little proud that I did because the old me would
Speaker 4: not have done that. And maybe it was me. It
Speaker 4: could have been a bad move. But I'm going to
Speaker 4: meet them today and I'll probably apologie.
Speaker 5: I think, very good move. I don't think you should
Speaker 5: apologize profusely Apologe. Now, people, everybody in Hollywood gravitates towards
Speaker 5: narcissists for a reason. It's because when you are when
Speaker 5: you act like you're better than or whatever, then people
Speaker 5: think like, oh my god, they're probably better than me.
Speaker 5: Now I have to appease them, So I think the
Speaker 5: only thing you achieved in that moment is maybe you've
Speaker 5: raised your status in their eyes.
Speaker 4: I know, it's crazy. The thing that I did not
Speaker 4: want to do is only going to benefit me. Whenever
Speaker 4: I accidentally come off like a bitch, I'm like, this
Speaker 4: is just don't worry about it, because everyone likes a bitch.
Speaker 3: Why men love bitch. There's like books about it.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying this way in life, but in Hollywood,
Speaker 5: it's like the number one thing to get ahead is
Speaker 5: to act like a narcissist, like you're better than everyone else.
Speaker 5: You walk into the room and you make everyone feel
Speaker 5: like this is the biggest star I've ever seen in
Speaker 5: my life. And if you go go any lower than that,
Speaker 5: if you go lower than the people you're talking to,
Speaker 5: then they're like, this person is a waste of my time.
Speaker 5: I don't need to treat them like anything.
Speaker 2: Apps to highlight level jobs, yeah, anytime you're like in
Speaker 2: a high level somewhere, that's just something that you have
Speaker 2: to bring to the table.
Speaker 6: So why is.
Speaker 1: It being a bitch to just take care of yourself
Speaker 1: and you're you're setting the tone and I like that
Speaker 1: you're doing it early on because these people are getting
Speaker 1: to know how you work and what you consider productive time.
Speaker 1: So to you, this is a productive length of zoom.
Speaker 1: You also are letting them know you have ten minutes
Speaker 1: until you have to be somewhere and you have to eat,
Speaker 1: so they're you're setting the tone for how this jounre is.
Speaker 1: So bravo. Yeah, getting back to Jonah, Yeah, these.
Speaker 5: Are boundaries you're not and also there's a line though
Speaker 5: that you can cross, because you can get too far.
Speaker 5: We discussed this yesterday. Also that woman for Men in Black,
Speaker 5: which we don't know why. We don't know why that happened.
Speaker 4: This fascinating, I was fascinating. Everyone remembers Men in Black,
Speaker 4: right the first one. Anya probably didn't see it because
Speaker 4: she did Aladdin or Titanic. This was all during this
Speaker 4: was a phase where Anya was I only knows what
Speaker 4: you were doing in nineteen ninety eight, during the summer
Speaker 4: when all these blockbuster hits.
Speaker 1: I Seen Men in Black came out.
Speaker 3: I think it was ninety eight.
Speaker 4: It was nineteen ninety seven, Okay, Titanic and Men in Black?
Speaker 3: Did you see Men in Black?
Speaker 6: Anya?
Speaker 3: No, it's so good. You have to see it, you
Speaker 3: really do. It's really good.
Speaker 4: But there was a woman in it who played the mortician,
Speaker 4: who was Will Smith's love interest, and she was amazing
Speaker 4: in it. And then she disappeared from Hollywood, and I
Speaker 4: thought when Brian told me this, I was like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, we didn't see her in anything else. She
Speaker 4: must have not fucked Harvey Weinstein, like she must have
Speaker 4: blacklisted her.
Speaker 3: That's probably what happened.
Speaker 5: The initial things where we thought she maybe died. Because
Speaker 5: I was Ali was watching Men in Black. It's one
Speaker 5: of her comfort movies. She loves Will Smith, even postslap,
Speaker 5: she loves Will Smith, and I was just walking in
Speaker 5: I saw this scene with this woman and I was like,
Speaker 5: I've seen this woman in a lot of things. But
Speaker 5: then I looked her up on IMDb, and her IMDb
Speaker 5: critics just stop. After nineteen ninety eight, she did one
Speaker 5: more movie after Men in Black, and then they just stop,
Speaker 5: and she hadn't done anything anything at all since then.
Speaker 5: And like Men in Black was a huge blockbuster movie,
Speaker 5: so like the biggest of the summer that summer, you know,
Speaker 5: it was. Her career was all but external. Looking at it,
Speaker 5: it seemed like it was going to blow up after this,
Speaker 5: and then it just stopped. Nothing, not even some indie film,
Speaker 5: not even some NYU student called her up. Nothing. So
Speaker 5: she must have died. She must have died or opted
Speaker 5: to retire for some reason. Maybe she's like, I'm going
Speaker 5: to focus on my family. Whatever it was, So you
Speaker 5: dug into it, I dug it. I went on my
Speaker 5: little computer and I have a really small computer, and
Speaker 5: I went on it and I looked her up.
Speaker 4: Turns out no one has ever called it a computer
Speaker 4: for the past, Like.
Speaker 5: I went on my personal computer.
Speaker 4: It's on me the other day. That was like, remember
Speaker 4: when we had a computer room? But you remember, you
Speaker 4: were like, it's in the computer room.
Speaker 3: Was the room in their house? No one thinks about
Speaker 3: it anymore?
Speaker 4: Really, Okay, So anyway, you went in your computer room,
Speaker 4: you typed in.
Speaker 5: I went in my computer room, I logged onto AOL
Speaker 5: and I looked up Subtle Thing that was also a
Speaker 5: Dave Matthews song from ninety seven. I looked her up
Speaker 5: and then it turns out that she is hard to
Speaker 5: work with? Was the Fiorentino? Multiple people? Yeah, so what happened?
Speaker 5: So multiple people said she was hard to work with?
Speaker 5: Now one of them was Harvey Weinstein, So that instantaneously
Speaker 5: makes this seem questionable, suspicious, Yes, it's suspicious.
Speaker 1: She was great, wasn't she in Like, what was the movie?
Speaker 1: The iconic film? Was it The Last Seduction or something?
Speaker 1: She was so good in anyway.
Speaker 4: Well, what happened with Men in Black two? Because that
Speaker 4: was an interesting story around that.
Speaker 5: So Men in Black two is going to come out
Speaker 5: because and Men in Black one was such a huge hit.
Speaker 5: And if you watch the end of Men in Black one,
Speaker 5: Tommy Lee Jones's character, it's Emily Jones and Will Smith.
Speaker 5: Tomily Jones' character gets a great send off. It's like
Speaker 5: he either retires or dies at the end, I can't remember,
Speaker 5: but he's done. He's clearly out. It was a beautiful ending,
Speaker 5: a beautiful movie, and it was clear that it was
Speaker 5: setting up. To me, it was setting up that Will
Speaker 5: Smith and Linda Feartino they're gonna have some kind of
Speaker 5: relationship after this, and if there was a sequel, it
Speaker 5: was clear they would be the leads. But then Men
Speaker 5: in Black two comes out and it's Tommy Lee Jones
Speaker 5: and Will Smith and Linda Fiorentino is nowhere to be found.
Speaker 5: They don't even mention her in this movie. So it
Speaker 5: turns out that according to accounts that I read on websites,
Speaker 5: so take that for what you will. But Tommy Lee
Speaker 5: Jones was asked, we got to have that chemistry between
Speaker 5: Will Smith and Tommily Jones and Men in Black two,
Speaker 5: you gotta come back. I know you died or whatever,
Speaker 5: but we're gonna come. You're gonna come back. And then
Speaker 5: he said, I will only do Men in Black two
Speaker 5: if Linda Fiorentino is not in it.
Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones said that Tommy Lee.
Speaker 5: Yes, Jones, Yeah, so I wonder what she was like, Yes.
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard Tommy Lee is incredibly difficult to
Speaker 1: work with too, So it's sad that exactly.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's like, I'm the one who's difficult.
Speaker 5: And then also any yeah, Kevin Smith said she was either,
Speaker 5: but then he apologized for later. So multiple enough people
Speaker 5: said she was hard to work with, that she never worked.
Speaker 4: On data about this, well, she listen, she I'm looking
Speaker 4: at IMDb. That is a it's not completely true. She
Speaker 4: did Dogma with Kevin Smith and that's where that came from.
Speaker 4: Then she went on to one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 4: more things. Two thousand she did three movies, but you've
Speaker 4: never heard of any of them. Two thousand and two
Speaker 4: she did one more, and then two thousand and nine
Speaker 4: she did a video. It doesn't even say a movie,
Speaker 4: it's just a video.
Speaker 1: Was a sexy actress and great.
Speaker 3: Ye she was like striking more a tyranny. What about
Speaker 3: Jett Butler?
Speaker 1: How she went away? And then we see her again
Speaker 1: decades later, and she's amazing In the Morning Show.
Speaker 3: I saw her. Oh was she in the Morning Room?
Speaker 3: Wasn't she? What was she in the Morning Show?
Speaker 1: She was somebody's mother coming Backspoon's mom.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well I saw her in The Ralphs in
Speaker 4: two thousand, probably nine, and she was shopping at like
Speaker 4: three am. Because I used to have an eating disorder
Speaker 4: and that's when I would go grocery shopping for my binges.
Speaker 4: And I started three in the morning and we were
Speaker 4: both not doing well in that Ralphs. But she was
Speaker 4: buying two gigantic Siberian tiger stuffed animals from.
Speaker 2: Among other things in her cart, and I just remember
Speaker 2: being like, she's a legend, you know, she's a stand up.
Speaker 4: Anyway, we got it to go to break we'll come
Speaker 4: back with actual Jonah Hill text and we'll talk about
Speaker 4: them when we get back.
Speaker 3: All right, we're back. Let's get into this Jonahill thing.
Speaker 3: Let me read some of these texts.
Speaker 4: So, if you don't know his girlfriend, ex girlfriend, Sarah Brady,
Speaker 4: they broke up last August. He is now with someone else,
Speaker 4: but they used to wear matching outfits on the red carpet.
Speaker 3: She's a she's a surfer girl.
Speaker 4: She's professor surfer and she posted on her Instagram story
Speaker 4: over the weekend kind of like she The first one
Speaker 4: is says, this is a warning to all girls. If
Speaker 4: your partner is talking to you like this, make an
Speaker 4: exit plan. Love, y'all call me if you need an
Speaker 4: ear And so she posted texts exchange from them. This
Speaker 4: one is a picture of her surfing, and then under
Speaker 4: it Jonah wrote respect. However you want to live your life,
Speaker 4: you only get one. And let me just say unless
Speaker 4: I say there's a period, there's not okay.
Speaker 3: Respect, how you live your life? You only get one?
Speaker 4: And then the next text says sort of done with
Speaker 4: explaining myself. She said three removed not the video yet?
Speaker 4: Is it my best surf? It is my best surfing
Speaker 4: video would period Would you feel better if the cover
Speaker 4: frame was different?
Speaker 3: Question mark? Any more specific ones that bother you? Question Mark.
Speaker 4: I have to say, this comes off with someone who
Speaker 4: knows they're going to post this someday. But maybe it's
Speaker 4: just an abused girlfriend or like a girlfriend that's feeling
Speaker 4: like like she just I've been that girlfriend before, Like
Speaker 4: whatever you want, is there anything else I can do
Speaker 4: for you? But this kind of feels to me like
Speaker 4: and then this is just my spidey sense of someone
Speaker 4: who knows that they're going to share this with friends
Speaker 4: and they want to look more victimy.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 5: She's like prepping for her deposition with this text.
Speaker 1: She was in law school. That's interesting.
Speaker 3: You said that this also could be that she really
Speaker 3: felt this way.
Speaker 4: So I don't want to I'm not don't come at
Speaker 4: me for about this is just I can't help what
Speaker 4: my thoughts are.
Speaker 3: I'm just sharing them.
Speaker 4: This is not the truth though, Okay, what I'm thinking
Speaker 4: about this is not what actually happened, So don't misconstrue
Speaker 4: that I'm accusing anything. And he wrote back, she said,
Speaker 4: any more specific ones that bother you? He wrote back, Yes,
Speaker 4: one that isn't of your ass and a song. First
Speaker 4: of all, that doesn't make any sense. She said, any
Speaker 4: more ones that bother you? And he said, yes, the
Speaker 4: one that one that isn't of your ass in a song.
Speaker 4: So the one that isn't of her ass bothers him. No,
Speaker 4: I meant to say, no, he just the thing that
Speaker 4: the takeaway from all these I just want to say
Speaker 4: before we really get into them, is that he might
Speaker 4: be illiterate. U he I don't understand why celebrities who
Speaker 4: I really respect to are like when any of this
Speaker 4: ever comes out.
Speaker 3: My general takeaway is that.
Speaker 4: People can't write, and people on text message sound like
Speaker 4: they've had multiple concussions through there, like they sound mentally disabled.
Speaker 4: When they write, they sound like three year olds that
Speaker 4: grabbed their mom's phone and just pressed a bunch of buttons.
Speaker 5: Because he didn't finish college. So it's a good point.
Speaker 4: I don't know how he got in with this. He
Speaker 4: didn't definitely didn't get in through his essay. Okay, So
Speaker 4: then she goes, fuck it, this is the title of
Speaker 4: this one. She posts another one. He writes a plain
Speaker 4: and simple colon and then nothing underneath that. Then if
Speaker 4: you need colon, So two things that have colon.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. And with men you need yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you mean He's saying.
Speaker 1: If you need surfing with men modeling, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: shots and bikinis. We get that, but then we are
Speaker 1: not a good match.
Speaker 5: I understand that, but just say that.
Speaker 3: You don't need to say like if you need and
Speaker 3: then all these lists just right into the scent.
Speaker 5: The thing that's weird to me is that it's plane
Speaker 5: and simple colon and then if you need colon, So
Speaker 5: there's nothing under the plane and simple. So if you
Speaker 5: need colon is a subcolon of the plane in simple colon.
Speaker 5: So you have to just assume that all of the
Speaker 5: rest of this and if you need colon is being
Speaker 5: plain and simple.
Speaker 1: By the way, also that you're going to get a
Speaker 1: take on this relationship, you're not. All we want to
Speaker 1: do today is talk about the grammar of this.
Speaker 5: It takes there's a period later in this there's a
Speaker 5: it's a space and then a period. That's just sit
Speaker 5: I see that.
Speaker 4: Can we stop with the space period space and also
Speaker 4: ellipses being over three dotsmax?
Speaker 2: Can I add one more thing to this plane and simple?
Speaker 2: I believe that he wrote this in his notepad and
Speaker 2: then pasted it into texts just by the format.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the next text, plain and simple. If you
Speaker 4: need colon surfing with men, boundaryless inappropriate friendships with the men,
Speaker 4: to model, to post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit,
Speaker 4: to post sexual pictures, friendships with women who are in
Speaker 4: unstable places and from your wild recent past. Beyond getting
Speaker 4: a lunch or coffee or something respectful, then a space.
Speaker 3: I am not the right partner for you space period. Space.
Speaker 4: If these things bring you to a place of happiness,
Speaker 4: I support it and there will be no hard feelings.
Speaker 4: These are my boundaries for a roman, for romantic partnership.
Speaker 4: My boundaries capital w with you based on the ways
Speaker 4: these actions have hurt our trust space period.
Speaker 3: See what is that?
Speaker 5: This is a person who has been to a lot
Speaker 5: of therapy who is now weaponizing the tools of therapy
Speaker 5: again because he's trying to say like, look, I'm only
Speaker 5: see a boundary boundaries. These are just me setting my boundaries.
Speaker 5: I'm and this is why no one should go to therapy.
Speaker 5: I'm on that train now, Jonah Hill. Let's figure it
Speaker 5: out how to take twist it perverb.
Speaker 4: People are saying this weaponized therapy thing. What's the difference
Speaker 4: between a guy just having like he doesn't want to
Speaker 4: date someone who has model pictures and post pictures of
Speaker 4: her ass and and him stating that and like that's
Speaker 4: he's uncomfortable with that, and being a controlling douchebag, Like,
Speaker 4: what's the difference between those?
Speaker 5: I want to be clear here. I love Jonah Hill.
Speaker 5: I love he's incredibly talented bombing Jonah I if I
Speaker 5: had a reading with him, I hope he likes me anyway.
Speaker 5: Uh well, I think like some of these things he's
Speaker 5: asking for is are unfair, Like if he if he
Speaker 5: was entering a relationship with a professional surfer, he should
Speaker 5: know that she's going to be doing a lot of
Speaker 5: things in his plane and simple colon list like surfing
Speaker 5: with men, modeling, posting pictures of yourself in a bathing suit.
Speaker 5: It's like these are just.
Speaker 4: He should maybe not date a surfer and just bail
Speaker 4: out on his own without asking her to stop doing
Speaker 4: all of these things.
Speaker 5: Right in order to be with him. He's shaming her
Speaker 5: for being who she is, and that's not cool.
Speaker 4: That was my initial reaction. Okay, okay, so then better
Speaker 4: take well, let's keep going. Then she says, uh, she said,
Speaker 4: I guess she's texting. I don't know who she's texting about.
Speaker 4: She's saying, let's see, she wrote. And I asked him
Speaker 4: to make a list of his needs too, but I
Speaker 4: think his list ended up being like five rules for me,
Speaker 4: not anything that he needed the freedom to do in
Speaker 4: his life himself. Like his list of needs was not
Speaker 4: a list of needs. It was a list of expectation
Speaker 4: rules for me. When we ended it is because we
Speaker 4: couldn't agree on that. And then I stayed friends with
Speaker 4: him for the next six months, and he just kept
Speaker 4: chalking up our breakup to us being in different places
Speaker 4: in our life, when that's bullshit. That's not the main
Speaker 4: reason it wasn't working. So he kept me on as
Speaker 4: a close emotional confidant after the breakup, sexting me on
Speaker 4: July thirteenth, twenty twenty two, visiting me, oh, this's almost
Speaker 4: the anniversary of that, visited me in my apartment in
Speaker 4: my hometown early August twenty twenty two, and then waited
Speaker 4: till a week after I moved to wife for law
Speaker 4: school to sey me a text being like, by the way,
Speaker 4: I'm in a new relationship. Okay, nothing of that sounds bad, Like,
Speaker 4: at what point is she going to take any accountability?
Speaker 4: You stayed friends with him, like you don't have to
Speaker 4: be as emotional confidant. Maybe you stop and pull out,
Speaker 4: like I just have a problem a little with like
Speaker 4: why did you keep going? But then then people will
Speaker 4: come at me like, well she was an abusive relationship.
Speaker 4: You can't get out of that. He tricked her, he manipulated,
Speaker 4: and then she said, well, then there's a textas change
Speaker 4: with them both. And this is from August thirtieth, twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two. That's what she labeled it. She said, what's
Speaker 4: tomorrow like for you? You free anytime between this and this?
Speaker 4: He said, I don't want to bail on school. On
Speaker 4: you to bailance. I don't want you to bail on school.
Speaker 4: That's important. No, no period, that's all one sentence, you guys.
Speaker 4: I know I don't need to, but in this spirit
Speaker 4: text school, what'd you say?
Speaker 5: As you can tell from my text, grammar school is important.
Speaker 4: I know I don't need to, but in the spirit
Speaker 4: of pure respect to our friendship and appreciation for each other,
Speaker 4: I did not want to be transparent that I did
Speaker 4: start dating. I did want to be pret transparent that
Speaker 4: I did start dating someone recently. I'm sorry if this
Speaker 4: is painful. It just happened, and I didn't want to
Speaker 4: not be transparent with you ever as I care about you.
Speaker 4: She said, thanks for letting me know. Probably best if
Speaker 4: we don't talk for a while and you figure out
Speaker 4: what where that's headed. He said, I appreciate and understand that. Okay,
Speaker 4: there's nothing bad there. That seems okay. Then the next
Speaker 4: day she texts, not that it's really my business, but
Speaker 4: out of my own personal chicks before Dick's code, if
Speaker 4: that's headed anywhere other than hookup or fling, I'd appreciate
Speaker 4: if you make that woman aware of how recently you've
Speaker 4: been flirting with me, sexting me and learning leaning on
Speaker 4: me for emotional level support, on me for partner level
Speaker 4: emotional support. And he goes, I'm sorry what, and I
Speaker 4: have the same reaction, Fuck you?
Speaker 3: He can date. You weren't dating.
Speaker 4: Him, you were texting him, and you guys were both
Speaker 4: probably leaning on each other, and you're fucking mad that
Speaker 4: he's with someone else, and so now you're like you
Speaker 4: gotta let her know that we have been seriously talking
Speaker 4: and everything, and.
Speaker 3: It's like, what, No, he doesn't.
Speaker 4: He just put up that boundary with her, like this
Speaker 4: needs to end because I am in something with someone else.
Speaker 4: I don't need to go backtrack and tell her that
Speaker 4: I've been talking to two women.
Speaker 3: It sounds like they just made it official.
Speaker 4: Therefore, now is the starting point of you can't talk
Speaker 4: to anyone else, not before.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. Everybody in the history of dating has had
Speaker 5: a little bit of an overlap. Like if you're dating
Speaker 5: two people and then you decide to get with one person,
Speaker 5: you gotta then let the other one go or whatever,
Speaker 5: and like you just don't talk about that with your
Speaker 5: current person. That's just the way it goes.
Speaker 4: Right, and he wrote, I have been there for you
Speaker 4: as a friend, which I have made very clear. And
Speaker 4: not only is it not your business, as I only
Speaker 4: mentioned it to you out of respect and friendship, but
Speaker 4: I have not been flirting with you or sexting you
Speaker 4: in any way where it would be inappropriate at this
Speaker 4: time to start dating someone. And if anything, I have
Speaker 4: felt for you, and if anything, I have felt for
Speaker 4: your change and tried to be a good and supportive friend,
Speaker 4: as you transition to a scary new environment, and to
Speaker 4: be crystal clear, I have not flirted or sexted with
Speaker 4: you in any way, shape or form in months, and
Speaker 4: went to say goodbye to you as a super kind
Speaker 4: gesture that you seem to have appreciated because it was kind,
Speaker 4: and then she then I was from continuing on. I'm
Speaker 4: sorry if that's upsetting that I would move on at
Speaker 4: all six months later, but I've handled you and I
Speaker 4: and I with utmost love and respect. Thanks, don't ruin
Speaker 4: all the kindness. You're better than that, which I never
Speaker 4: like it. You're better than that. And then she wrote
Speaker 4: in response to as you transition to a scary new
Speaker 4: environment data, she wrote, never really seen it as scary
Speaker 4: and then he and he said I have not you
Speaker 4: know in response to her being like to be crystically
Speaker 4: and in response to him saying I've been I've not
Speaker 4: flirted or sexted with you in any way, shape orform
Speaker 4: in months, she had searched through her text for holding
Speaker 4: my hand right, that's phrase holding no, just holding my dick, Oh,
Speaker 4: holding my dick, Sorry, holding my dick, and he had
Speaker 4: written on the thirteenth of July, so that was a
Speaker 4: month removed from that, and she she goes, whatever helps
Speaker 4: you get through the day, gotta focus on mine now, audios.
Speaker 4: He said, new side of you, Sarah, I care about.
Speaker 3: You and we'll always.
Speaker 5: And then you think that's a typo or is that
Speaker 5: a thing that the kids are saying?
Speaker 1: Maybe that was their name, you know, like on the way,
Speaker 1: like by the way.
Speaker 4: I heard a new gen Z phrase the other day.
Speaker 4: A girl was talking to her friend. I overheard it
Speaker 4: in the shop in New York during on his wedding weekend.
Speaker 4: And this girl's talking to her friend and she was like,
Speaker 4: and then my dad was like, you're spending too much
Speaker 4: money on clothes. And I was like, Dad, say less,
Speaker 4: and I was like, and then I googled say less
Speaker 4: slang and it's very much a thing.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, it's it's almost over. Actually say less.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm really late to that.
Speaker 4: It's like that word shoogie or whatever, which means kind
Speaker 4: of like okay. So he said, new side of you, Sarah,
Speaker 4: I care about you and will always be your friend
Speaker 4: as I have been. Yes, we sexted two months ago.
Speaker 5: That's all right.
Speaker 3: So that was one and a half months.
Speaker 4: But you know who's whatever he's rounding up, he said.
Speaker 4: Screenshotting intimate text between us is a huge triggering violation
Speaker 4: for me in breach of trust as a friend, and
Speaker 4: I have explained to you about breaches of trust.
Speaker 3: I have been trust.
Speaker 4: This is all one sentence, and I've explained to you
Speaker 4: about breaches of trust I have been. I have had
Speaker 4: between trusted friends recently that have caused me trauma. I
Speaker 4: am in oh okay, period. I am incredibly hurt and
Speaker 4: feel a lack of safety where I've always trusted you.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry if a former partner moving on is painful,
Speaker 4: and I empathize with that space period space. But I
Speaker 4: have done nothing wrong, and if I wasn't a public person,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have this kind of I wouldn't face this
Speaker 4: kind of violation and have shared with you that and
Speaker 4: have shared that with you, and then watching you be
Speaker 4: like this today shatters my ability to trust anybody even further.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 4: I have always shown you kindness and support. It is extreme,
Speaker 4: but like that is probably extremely triggering to be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this person, he probably saw all of this coming in
Speaker 4: that moment, like this, what this, what's the word deluged.
Speaker 4: What's the word when things all come out at once?
Speaker 3: Wording deluge?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: What is it? It's like.
Speaker 4: Deluge of text messages that she shared Like he probably
Speaker 4: saw this coming in that moment, is freaking out because listen,
Speaker 4: she is capable of this space. He goes on to say,
Speaker 4: i have nothing to decide in my life, but I'm still
Speaker 4: entitled to safety and privacy, just like you were anyone
Speaker 4: else's period space, period space.
Speaker 3: I thought you'd understand that.
Speaker 4: Oh just you wait, yeah right, this has really shattered
Speaker 4: my sense of faith in you as a human.
Speaker 3: I thought we would always be friends. Sarah.
Speaker 4: I've done nothing wrong, and I'm sorry if you're bummed,
Speaker 4: but this line of texting today has really deeply let
Speaker 4: me down and broken my trust as a friend. She said,
Speaker 4: I'm showing your own text to I'm just showing your
Speaker 4: own text to me. Can you put yourself in my
Speaker 4: shoes for a sec? How I might feel gas lit
Speaker 4: by your behavior in communication?
Speaker 3: He said, I'm happy to speak on the phone, but no,
Speaker 3: that is a good point.
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't believe you had screenshot text and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just screenshotting this.
Speaker 4: I but he's triggered because apparently recently he had a
Speaker 4: breach of trust within his close personal friends. He says,
Speaker 4: so to say, you feel gaslet when I was being
Speaker 4: nice as absurd. You are hurt that I kissed someone
Speaker 4: and I'm beginning to date fair. You have not been gaslet.
Speaker 4: You have been treated, in fact, incredibly, both emotionally, incredibly,
Speaker 4: both emotionally and financially.
Speaker 1: Woo, I just saw that. That's a whole other thing.
Speaker 1: I guess anyway, go on what I believe that because
Speaker 1: I went down a deep dive on her Instagram story,
Speaker 1: she said no to a lot of jobs and opportunities
Speaker 1: because he was asked. I think he paid for her
Speaker 1: and helped pay for law school and helped pay for therapy.
Speaker 1: But she was sort of starting to say goodbye and
Speaker 1: know to work opportunity stuff for him for the relationship.
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, So it seems like at this point there's
Speaker 5: been a transition, whereas before she was prepping for her
Speaker 5: deposition and now Jonah is prepping for his deposition. Because
Speaker 5: everything he's saying at this point is like is like
Speaker 5: very He's aware that he's being screenshot. Yes, I am,
Speaker 5: I know this is coming and I am going to
Speaker 5: say everything perfectly above board here, and I think he's
Speaker 5: doing a pretty good job other than.
Speaker 4: I mean, this goes on and on. Imagine reading through
Speaker 4: all of this, I don't care.
Speaker 5: Is like, this is not something that we should be
Speaker 5: seeing at all. This is just a.
Speaker 3: Break bullshit, fuck final spot.
Speaker 5: Let's just bullshit.
Speaker 4: Say what it is. This is an invasion of privacy.
Speaker 4: Go to therapy, share this with your girlfriends. We've all
Speaker 4: done it. I mean, my fucking I go through my
Speaker 4: photos sometimes and it is literally like, I have probably
Speaker 4: seventy thousand photos of my phone. Ten percent are screenshots
Speaker 4: of texts from guys that would never love me to
Speaker 4: my girlfriends. Okay, I would never, in my wildest dreams
Speaker 4: go on and post them on my Instagram story. It's
Speaker 4: an unhinged behavior, There's no question about it. It's not
Speaker 4: a good look. I don't Jonah might not have acted
Speaker 4: perfectly in this one thing I did enjoy that isn't
Speaker 4: on this BuzzFeed thing that I was reading from. He
Speaker 4: said that he didn't want pictures of her ass up,
Speaker 4: but it was the number.
Speaker 3: It was the picture.
Speaker 4: There's an ass picture that she posted, which is the
Speaker 4: reason they started dating and talking responding to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they should have broken up because Jonah Hill's boundaries
Speaker 5: were crossed. And but he should have known that those
Speaker 5: boundaries are going to be crossed when he started.
Speaker 4: Because he's dating a girl that he went after. I
Speaker 4: think he said stripper but surfer, yeah, he yeah, he
Speaker 4: knew what she was when he went in, so he
Speaker 4: should have maybe he learned along the way. He can't
Speaker 4: handle that. Whatever it is, we shouldn't be seeing this.
Speaker 4: This is it's Noah said it before. You feel like
Speaker 4: this is doxing.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I just don't feel right about tar and
Speaker 2: feathering someone we weren't there for their relationship. We don't
Speaker 2: know the whole story, and I just agree, Like, to me,
Speaker 2: doxing is one of the most cruel things. I don't
Speaker 2: care who it's about. I just don't like it, and
Speaker 2: I wish that it won't happen.
Speaker 3: It's cruel.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: As soon as this all was posted, I felt like,
Speaker 4: this girl needs some help and probably needs to go
Speaker 4: see a therapist and get some She seems well, we
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Speaker 4: listen this people were I think everything. The initial response
Speaker 4: was like how dare this guy? And then I think,
Speaker 4: now the tide is kind of turning and people are
Speaker 4: kind of opening their eyes, like why do we even
Speaker 4: get to see this in the first place?
Speaker 3: And Yeah, I just feel I feel like this girl.
Speaker 4: I felt this way before when people have moved on
Speaker 4: too quickly and you want to you're hurt and you
Speaker 4: know that you can't give them back, so why not
Speaker 4: just and you're kind of releasing it to like warn
Speaker 4: other women.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about her endgame or her motive.
Speaker 1: We were talking about motives earlier and I heard her
Speaker 1: say in a voice memo that her motive was to
Speaker 1: reach this new girlfriend and mom of his kid, And
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, why.
Speaker 3: Why not I just DM her?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And also I think to educate other women, like
Speaker 1: this is not boundaries, this is controlling behavior, This is
Speaker 1: asking me to.
Speaker 5: Change.
Speaker 3: Who asked problem to be the savior of all women.
Speaker 4: I don't think this was healthy on either side, But
Speaker 4: I don't feel like we should be reading these stecks
Speaker 4: and it does.
Speaker 5: It does. The verdict Judge Nick the verdict in the
Speaker 5: case of Jonah versus I don't know the girl's name.
Speaker 3: I don't want to date Jonah Hill.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like this is would be someone that
Speaker 4: I could date because of the way that I would
Speaker 4: feel very upset if someone asked me to remove stuff
Speaker 4: like that or like thought I was being like slutty
Speaker 4: or wanting attention for doing the thing that like is
Speaker 4: required of my career, Like what does he expect.
Speaker 3: Her to swim in and to surf it like a burn?
Speaker 1: Don't get I think he asked for a wet suit.
Speaker 4: That's fucking crazy. I'm sorry that it's insane. He shouldn't
Speaker 4: have asked that stuff. But I also the verdict is guys,
Speaker 4: watch out for Yeah, guys, I mean, just know that
Speaker 4: your your texts aren't safe and that and you're every
Speaker 4: where she was like you could see the shift in
Speaker 4: the way he talked. His grammar got better, his sentence
Speaker 4: structure got more complete.
Speaker 3: Right after he.
Speaker 4: Realized she was screenshotting, it was like, uh, oh, time
Speaker 4: for damage control and he's going to be on. He
Speaker 4: should have realized it earlier. You know that this is
Speaker 4: oh fuck my voice lesson? I didn't text my fucking
Speaker 4: teacher that I wasn't happening today, God damn it. But yeah,
Speaker 4: he should have realized it earlier that this was going
Speaker 4: to be a problem. But this is when guys are
Speaker 4: just like horny and they're not thinking and they send
Speaker 4: they shoot off text to some hot girl, like, just
Speaker 4: jerk off before you text someone. Stop dating people who
Speaker 4: are going to screenshot your text. Stop dating girls in
Speaker 4: their twenties. Yeah, is she in her twenties? I'm guessing
Speaker 4: she is. Yeah, and he's like nearly forty. He's my age,
Speaker 4: so yeah, stop dating women in their twenties. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's the takeaway from it.
Speaker 5: There's one line on Jonah Hills and he deserved it
Speaker 5: that says, I want to I want to highlight that
Speaker 5: says you have not been gas lit, which is like,
Speaker 5: I don't think you can say that, So I don't
Speaker 5: think you can say that.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 4: It's not wrong, it's not see more on to tell
Speaker 4: someone they haven't been gas lit, you're like gaslighting. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like grammatically that was correct, But I do believe that
Speaker 4: gaslighting has taken on a new fucking like everything's gaslight lighting,
Speaker 4: like someone on Reddit recently was like, gaslighting, by the way,
Speaker 4: is not if a guy lies to you, it's not
Speaker 4: gaslighting like gaslighting does like does require lying, but not
Speaker 4: every lie is a gaslight like gaslighting, she's lying, but
Speaker 4: lying does not equal gaslight.
Speaker 1: I was also confused about her calling it gaslighting because
Speaker 1: I think he said, like, we haven't sexted in four
Speaker 1: five months or something, and then she screenshotted and he's like, fine,
Speaker 1: four months or whatever. I'm getting the details wrong, but
Speaker 1: it was like one month off. That doesn't really make
Speaker 1: it gaslighting.
Speaker 4: It's a little it's a little bit because she said
Speaker 4: he said three months, and then she proved him wrong
Speaker 4: with a month and a half earlier.
Speaker 3: He said, I'm holding my dick, and then he goes
Speaker 3: two months, so it's like, no, it's a month and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 1: Like that kind of about semantics who care, like it's
Speaker 1: not a crime.
Speaker 4: Well, now his girlfriend knows now, or his baby mama
Speaker 4: or whoever he's with knows, And honestly, I wouldn't care.
Speaker 4: If I were her, I'd be like I would just
Speaker 4: be like, why did you date a girl that also
Speaker 4: do this?
Speaker 1: With bachelor last year on the Bachelor. I remember the
Speaker 1: guy like told everyone like, just so I want to
Speaker 1: be transparent, I fucked everyone on this show, and the
Speaker 1: girl was like, I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to know that.
Speaker 4: I know I'm going to have people coming after me
Speaker 4: or like thinking that I'm just like anti woman, but
Speaker 4: I just think I'm I'm pro mental health. And I
Speaker 4: think this girl needs a better outlet than her Instagram
Speaker 4: stories to process all of this, and that I don't
Speaker 4: think her motive is to protect women and to educate
Speaker 4: women and to help girls that were in the same.
Speaker 3: Spot as she's with. Maybe she I think it's just
Speaker 3: to hurt the woman he's with. That's what I think
Speaker 3: she's trying to do because she's jealous, and that's.
Speaker 1: To be gentle with both of these people because everybody's hurting.
Speaker 1: And I was twenty and crazy before too, and I
Speaker 1: remember thinking like, if I found out someone cheated on
Speaker 1: someone I know, I would tell them because I would
Speaker 1: want to know. And then as I got older, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's none of my business, Like I slowly learned things
Speaker 1: or not. Some things are my business and some things
Speaker 1: are not, And this whole thread felt like none of
Speaker 1: my business.
Speaker 3: And I went I'm glad we're on it.
Speaker 4: I love you guys. Thank you for listening to the
Speaker 4: podcast today. I hope you enjoyed yourselves. I'll see you
Speaker 4: on set Brian in just a second. And thank you
Speaker 4: Noah and Anya. Happy marriage, Anya, and we'll see you
Speaker 4: next week on the show. Dumbika and Dig Just uh,
Speaker 4: don't text girls that.
Speaker 3: You might think first guess we try here stuff. Okay,
Speaker 3: come on,