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Speaker 1: The Nicky Gleiser PODCASTO.

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Speaker 2: Nik Glaser pos Here's Nikki.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to the show. It's Helaser Podcast. I'm Nikki. Such

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Speaker 3: exciting news over here.

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Speaker 4: I just think that I got an inn on Taylor

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Speaker 4: Swift tickets for an upcoming show from a friend of

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Speaker 4: mine that I randomly like, just this just shows you

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Speaker 4: how things can call all come into place. I texted

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Speaker 4: a friend who lives out in LA I don't want

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Speaker 4: to like say any names because I just don't want

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Speaker 4: to jinx this, but I texted her because I really

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Speaker 4: can't wait for the Barbie movie. I'm like so excited

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Speaker 4: about the Barbie movie. I honestly don't think it can

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Speaker 4: it will be. It'll live up to my expectations. I

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Speaker 4: think it's gonna be the funniest movie of the year,

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Speaker 4: maybe of the century, and I just can't wait. Even

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Speaker 4: though I did think that that little clip that they

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Speaker 4: had where her shoe was her foot slid in the

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Speaker 4: shoe and her foot stayed the same, everyone was like

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Speaker 4: losing their mind about that, but I was like, it's

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Speaker 4: not that big of a deal. If that's it's I

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Speaker 4: do still think it's going to be amazing because Gretegerwig

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Speaker 4: is writing and directing it.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm very excited about it.

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Speaker 4: And that did you guys see the Ken song that

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Speaker 4: he released and that they released of him singing about

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Speaker 4: like I'm only Ken, and it just like it seems

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Speaker 4: like it's going to be the story of Ken feeling

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Speaker 4: like he's nothing without his connection to Barbie and him

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Speaker 4: setting out to be his own person. And Ryan Gosling's

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Speaker 4: just so funny as this Ken doll that's taking himself

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Speaker 4: so seriously. And anyway, so I wrote her to being

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Speaker 4: like do you want to go see Barbie opening weekend?

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Speaker 4: And she was like, I don't get back to the

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Speaker 4: twenty fourth, but as soon as and it opens twenty first,

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Speaker 4: so I'm like, okay, I'll wait. And then she was like,

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Speaker 4: but I do want to go to Taylor Swift with

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Speaker 4: you because we had talked about this before and it's

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Speaker 4: early here, like for me to detect no, that's eleven,

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Speaker 4: And she was like, no, but I do want to

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Speaker 4: go see Taylor Swifts And I was like, I do too.

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Speaker 4: I spent X amount of dollars already on her and

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Speaker 4: she goes, I'm willing to spend a lot of money

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I am too. Let's do a podcast about

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Speaker 4: it afterwards to justify it and maybe we'll make some

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Speaker 4: money better that way. And I was like, I go,

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Speaker 4: I'll look into tickets later. And I was like, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to try to get a hook up, but probably

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Speaker 4: not because it's La. And then she was like, you

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Speaker 4: just gave me the courage, or like, you just gave

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Speaker 4: me the What did she say, I have? Uh? I

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Speaker 4: just took a crazy, embarrassing risk OMG and texted blank

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Speaker 4: blank about a hookup and she said yes, And she

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Speaker 4: said I have texted with her once before and was

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Speaker 4: so scared to ask, but once you said you were

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Speaker 4: in it, it gave me the strength.

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Speaker 3: To do it for us. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 4: And the person she texted Annie Swifty's listening, know this

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Speaker 4: person and it's someone who's very close to Taylor. So

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Speaker 4: it's just so nice And if any I think it

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Speaker 4: would be really fun, I will. I will agree to

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Speaker 4: meet Taylor if this person gets his tickets, because this

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Speaker 4: person's going to see Taylor that night, I would think. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited. Was very good news starting the show.

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Speaker 4: I was going to try to do a podcast without

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Speaker 4: mentioning Taylor. But here's the thing about Taylor Swift. She

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Speaker 4: I don't even bring her up, and she comes up

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Speaker 4: all the time. People think that I'm constantly bringing her up,

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Speaker 4: and I did today and I do often. But you know,

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Speaker 4: over did I tell the story about the barbecue that

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Speaker 4: I went to?

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Speaker 3: And now over the July fourth.

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Speaker 4: Kind of weekend that I was with Lee's like mixed

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Speaker 1: By racial and what bi racial, so mixed.

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Speaker 4: It was like friends of friends of friends, and they

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Speaker 4: felt really awkward because when you walk into a party,

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Speaker 4: you expect people to be like hi, like oh my god,

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Speaker 4: I felt like a bizarro world of like wait, but

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Speaker 4: And so I was feeling awkward, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: which wasn't the case, but and I was just we

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Speaker 4: were getting there and the barbecue happen probably at seven thirteen,

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Speaker 4: it was like nine fifteen and so, and I was

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Speaker 4: like looking like scrounging around their leftovers for food. I

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Speaker 4: it was fine. And then at one point they Taylor

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Speaker 4: Swift came up. I did not bring her up. I

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Speaker 4: was not wearing a Taylor Swift shirt. I was wearing

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Speaker 4: a Kendall Roy shirt. I there was nothing that I

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Speaker 4: don't even know how she came up. But Taylor Swift

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Speaker 4: comes up all the time, and bet you'll listeners will know,

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Speaker 4: just start paying attention.

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Speaker 3: She comes up.

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Speaker 4: People talk about her all the time because she's the

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Speaker 4: biggest star in the world. Even Ringo Star said it recently,

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Speaker 4: who was of the Beatles? And I sent my dad

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Speaker 4: that article that said Ringo Star said Taylor Swift's the

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Speaker 4: number one most famous person ever of all time. And

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Speaker 4: I was like so excited to send that to him

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Speaker 4: because he's, you know, very my dad is.

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Speaker 3: The biggest Beatles.

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Speaker 4: He's like Taylor Swift, like I am with Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 4: but for the Beatles and he and I was like, see,

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Speaker 4: even your guy thinks she's more fun.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't think she's a big deal, or does he.

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Speaker 4: He's just like some days she'll be it'll be cool

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Speaker 4: to see her at small venues someday, and I go,

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Speaker 4: this girl is never ever going to do anything less

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Speaker 4: than stadiums the rest of her life. And if she does,

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Speaker 4: it's for like a prome. It's like gonna be a

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Speaker 4: special night that is like sponsored by serious XM, like

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Speaker 4: the Dave Matthews thing. I saw him at Irving Plaza

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Speaker 4: for like a couple hundred people, but that was like

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Speaker 4: a one time. She's not gonna do a tour of

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Speaker 4: you know, gastro pubs through the Midwest, Like it's never

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Speaker 5: She's never ever ever getting back to gastro.

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Speaker 4: Pubs, yes, ever, like ever, And so I yeah, So

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Speaker 4: we're sitting at this I'm like picking at this salad

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Speaker 4: that I made from their leftovers, and they're talking about

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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift and I'm just trying to.

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Speaker 3: I want them to like me.

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Speaker 4: I also am aware that people tend to think that

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I just maybe they don't think anything.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just trying not to. I try not to

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Speaker 4: make anything about me or like I don't want they

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Speaker 4: all know I'm a comedian probably, and I don't want

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Speaker 4: just trying to play it cool and like low key.

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Speaker 4: And they're all like people that are I feel like

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Speaker 4: like impressed with their lives. They are all like married

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Speaker 4: and like have dogs and like they're in good places

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Speaker 3: So I kind of am like reverential.

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Speaker 4: And I'm at this picnic table and we're sitting there

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Speaker 4: and this girl, one of the girls, one of the wives,

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Speaker 4: that's how I identify her. Sure she would not appreciate that, sister.

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Speaker 4: I'm very aware that they could be listening. If you

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Speaker 4: haven't noticed how much I'm tiptoeing around this conversation. Salad,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that salad dressing was so fucking I'm

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Speaker 4: not even kidding you. I still think about it. You

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Speaker 4: know when you like vinegar makes your mouth water. There

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Speaker 4: was like a perfect amount. It was amazing. It was

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Speaker 4: an a Mason jar. It was like above and beyond

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Speaker 4: whatever I could ever do. I whenever I go to

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Speaker 4: the grocery store, pause on, like just a little we

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Speaker 4: have to like get off on a dressing tangent. I've

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Speaker 4: never made a salad dressing in my life. I don't

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Speaker 4: trust myself to do that. I want to be a

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Speaker 4: woman who makes her own salad dressing. And just like

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Speaker 4: oil and salt and pepper, I think I just that's

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Speaker 3: Maybe a little lemon.

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Speaker 1: That's what I do every night. And it's but like

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Speaker 3: Really it's so easy.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy for a dressing like that. But if you

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Speaker 4: Vegan, no, yeah, that involves sardines and eggs.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can vegan versions of anything, it's true, but

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Speaker 3: It won't taste as good.

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Speaker 5: For my for my wedding. I got a salad dressing

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Speaker 3: It's like ki.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell he just said, but

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Speaker 3: Kui KOUI. What do you spell it?

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Speaker 2: it's it's called kuwi.

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Speaker 5: You put a bunch of ingredients in a little bottle,

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Speaker 5: and it has a little like propeller, like like the

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Speaker 5: Titanic propeller that the guy fell onto. It's like in there.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that is a famous scene. That is I

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Speaker 4: the Titanic, besides the hand up on the glass falling down.

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Speaker 4: It's when that guy goes and then he hits it

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Speaker 5: It's so good, holds up a ten sign and so

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Speaker 5: it's spinning around and uh. It really works for stuff

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Speaker 5: like you described. But I tried to make ranch dressing

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Speaker 5: and it was and I'm with a recipe with a recipe,

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Speaker 5: it was repulsive.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, what turned it?

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you have to put raw eggs

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Speaker 5: in there, which I don't trust. And just everything I

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Speaker 5: put in there made sense. It was like this all

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Speaker 5: seems like ranch and then when I tried it, it

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Speaker 4: I'd be so scared to cook and like have something

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Speaker 4: be And my biggest fear people who cook for others.

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Speaker 4: I just want to take a second and just honor

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Speaker 4: you because you risk them. Like if I tell a

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Speaker 4: bad joke, we're onto the next joke right away. They

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Speaker 4: don't have to finish the entire joke for an like,

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Speaker 4: and it's not gonna be the only thing that they

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you have to only hear about this joke,

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Speaker 4: you know. Like, but like if people come over for

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Speaker 4: have picky eaters, like crazy, you know, everyone has their

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Speaker 5: It's like you have says with somebody and they they

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Speaker 4: So I'm at this picnic table and then I go,

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Speaker 4: I was angry? It was me? Oh was I angry? Yes,

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Speaker 4: embarrassed and like, why do you have to do that?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, because they need to know that these

439
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 4: people walk among you and people that care about them

440
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 4: walk among them. But we're gonna have some thoughts about

441
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Speaker 4: Jonah Hill that are totally none of our business and

442
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 4: he's not here to defend himself coming up right on

443
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Speaker 4: the podcast right after this, so stay tuned for that. Okay,

444
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 4: we're back. So yeah, let's do Uh why do I care?

445
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Speaker 4: Why do I care? So this is a part of

446
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 4: podcasts where we talk about a celebrity news story that

447
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 4: we really shouldn't care about, and maybe we do care.

448
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 4: But this one is the Jonah Hill text exchanges that

449
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 4: were leaked via his ex girlfriend Sarah Brady over the weekend,

450
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Speaker 4: I guess a couple of days ago.

451
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Speaker 3: So they are not together anymore.

452
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: Jonah Hill is now currently maybe engaged, maybe married, definitely

453
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Speaker 4: has a baby with just had a baby I think

454
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Speaker 4: with his wife or whatever it is.

455
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Speaker 3: And so this is an ex girlfriend. They dated a

456
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Speaker 3: while ago recent.

457
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Speaker 4: They dated a couple of years ago or maybe you

458
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Speaker 4: know like I think.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the breakup was August of last year.

460
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Speaker 3: Okay, now sorry he met youngest.

461
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Speaker 1: Of last year. I think they probably broke up six

462
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Speaker 1: months prior to that, so early twenty twenty.

463
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Speaker 3: August twenty twenty one.

464
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Speaker 2: Oh, they were together final year before parting ways, but

465
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Speaker 2: they were friends.

466
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Speaker 3: Here is a baby with another girl?

467
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Speaker 4: Like, how did he did he get pregnant with a

468
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Speaker 4: girl immediately after sending these tags?

469
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Speaker 3: I mean they have don't they have a baby right now?

470
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Speaker 4: Yes, we should have looked this up. Okay, do you

471
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Speaker 4: want to check on who dated an informed your opinion?

472
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

473
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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, at least for being honest about we don't

474
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Speaker 4: really know. I mean just to say I did go

475
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Speaker 4: to college with Jonahill. He was in my door my

476
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Speaker 4: freshman year. He was always very nice to me. At

477
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Speaker 4: a time in my life where I looked like a

478
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Speaker 4: walking skeleton mister bones. No one wanted to be friends

479
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Speaker 4: with me. Besides my close girlfriends. No guys wanted to

480
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Speaker 4: have anything to do with me. And he was the

481
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Speaker 4: only guy from a group of guys in our dorm

482
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Speaker 4: that were like and popular, and he was the only

483
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Speaker 4: one that befriended me.

484
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Speaker 3: So I will always love him for that. And and

485
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 3: then he went away.

486
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 4: We all went away for Christmas break our freshman year,

487
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 4: and then he never came back, and we were like, what.

488
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Speaker 3: Happened to Jonah? We loved him.

489
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: And then shortly thereafter we saw like a trailer for

490
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Speaker 4: iHeart Huckabees, and this guy that we had no idea

491
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Speaker 4: was an actor. We knew he was from la and

492
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Speaker 4: that he was friends with the guy from Maroon five,

493
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Speaker 4: but that was all we knew, like that he was

494
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Speaker 4: connected to Hollywood in any way, and then all of

495
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Speaker 4: a sudden he was in movies for the rest of

496
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Speaker 4: my life.

497
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Speaker 3: But he was always nice to me.

498
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Speaker 4: So and then I've talked to I think we talked

499
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Speaker 4: on MySpace a little bit after that. He was always

500
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Speaker 4: nice and never yeah, like we but I haven't seen

501
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Speaker 4: him in person since then, and Anya, you ran into

502
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Speaker 4: him in person, I think once.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've met him a few times. He was always

504
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Speaker 1: really cool and seems to do great work on himself.

505
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Speaker 1: And we talked about that a little bit. I liked

506
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Speaker 1: his documentary. He did it with Phil Stutz.

507
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Speaker 4: I tried to get Chris to watch it, to be like,

508
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Speaker 4: look at this guy in therapy. We watched like half

509
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Speaker 4: of it, and then Chris was on his phone for

510
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Speaker 4: some of it. I'm like, can you please put your

511
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: phone away and pay attention to this movie about men

512
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 4: going to therapy? Like, and he was just like, this

513
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Speaker 4: isn't how I'm gonna take care of myself and be

514
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: convinced through a which stuff.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I think he was.

516
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: It was just I was so it was one of

517
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 4: those things where I was just looking at him the

518
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 4: whole time and then looking back at the screen like

519
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 4: did you hear that? Like childhood trauma can be kind

520
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 4: of like in sepid and what's the insipid? And and

521
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 4: maybe you don't notice it, but it was there, like

522
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Speaker 4: and it was just I was so obnoxious and we

523
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Speaker 4: never finished it.

524
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Speaker 3: But do you liked that with Phil Stutts of the Tools?

525
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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. It was definitely interesting. It's

526
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Speaker 1: a yeah, and I know some people that have worked

527
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Speaker 1: with Phil Stutts, so I mean, I think it oversimplifies

528
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: so much of therapy, and I don't I don't know

529
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: if I love well stuts well, it's just like just

530
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Speaker 1: do this little exercise that I drew, and then you know,

531
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Speaker 1: obviously that can't cure you. I think so much of

532
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Speaker 1: therapy I've sound really helpful is really examining the motives

533
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: and the origins of things and how they play out.

534
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Speaker 3: But they are approach.

535
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Speaker 1: Well I can't explain it because I'm not that educated

536
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Speaker 1: about it, but it just seemed a little bit oversimplified

537
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: to me, Like, but that's how any ninety minute documentary

538
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: it would be. They can't come al.

539
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Speaker 4: So that's how to get people in is to be

540
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: like it's simpler and then they do it and of

541
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 4: course it's going to get harder.

542
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Speaker 3: But like it's showings.

543
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Speaker 4: I thought it was good because it was I thought

544
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Speaker 4: it was just a good way to get men to

545
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Speaker 4: kind of consider doing this thing.

546
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think, you know, first, I don't like

547
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 5: the whole digging into your past and figuring out why

548
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 5: you are the way you are. It doesn't help. I

549
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 5: feel like it's like interesting for people to know, like, oh,

550
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 5: I act like this because my mom beat me with

551
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 5: a wooden spoon or whatever the fuck it is, right,

552
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 5: but what it doesn't actually help? Yeah, but that doesn't

553
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 5: actually help you change your behavior in the present to

554
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 5: make you happier. And so like I I've been to probably

555
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 5: like over ten different therapists over my lifetime, and there

556
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: was one that it made me like, right, answer all

557
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 5: these questions in a journal about my past and try

558
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 5: to connect things to my past, and and then and

559
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 5: then put my uh the things that upset me into

560
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 5: a pillow and then beat the shit out of the

561
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Speaker 5: pillow and scream into the pillow. And I did that

562
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Speaker 5: for a while and it did nothing. It did nothing

563
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Speaker 5: for me.

564
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I also agree with you about how yeah you

565
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: go in and I think there's several like memes about this,

566
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 4: like therapy, you just go like, oh, that's why I

567
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 4: do it, and then you're.

568
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Speaker 3: Like, am I done? And they're like my curen, No,

569
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Speaker 3: that just it.

570
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 4: Just tells you where they are hiding, like the things

571
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Speaker 4: like and you can kind of place it. It's kind

572
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 4: of like enneagram or you like anything any personality tests.

573
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Speaker 3: You go ha wow, it's like novel. You go, whoa,

574
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: this is me. This is so me. But it doesn't

575
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Speaker 3: do anything.

576
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Speaker 4: For you except kind of go pat you on the

577
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: back and go, oh, I'm not Oh it does it. It

578
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: makes you feel like you're not crazy for the things

579
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: you do, that it's not your fault.

580
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Speaker 2: And I think I think it also makes you a

581
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: little bit more self aware of when it's happening. It's

582
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: just like another reason to pay attention to when it's happening,

583
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: and that's where the change can start to happen. But

584
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Speaker 2: I always say, like that that documentary Anya, I think

585
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: when I'm I didn't watch it, but probably therapy takes many,

586
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: many years, so if it kind of gives this view

587
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Speaker 2: of like, oh, you know, we can improve Jonah in

588
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: like this ninety minute series, it's kind of like not

589
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: really truthful.

590
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Speaker 1: Well, but I loved a lot of his tools, Like

591
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Speaker 1: the one that sticks out to me is and I

592
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: completely believe this is true that most of our problems

593
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: can be solved or eighty percent of our issues are

594
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: are you physically taking care of yourself? Like are you slept,

595
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: did you sleep well? Did you eat?

596
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: Hungry? Angry, lonely?

597
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 5: Tired?

598
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Speaker 1: Does he say that in there?

599
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 5: No?

600
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Speaker 3: But I mean isn't that it book?

601
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that's such a great thing, and I

602
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: love that he said. He's like most mental health issues

603
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: can be like I would say eighty six percent of

604
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: them or something. Forget the figure can be solved with

605
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: did you exercise? Did you eat?

606
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: Did you sleep? Are you hydrated? We anie you were

607
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: even talking about this weekend?

608
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 4: You were like like you were so underslept and like

609
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 4: everything is amplified. Why do why doesn't being underslept make

610
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: you like, wow, I'm more happy? Like why does it

611
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: have to go the other way? Like why don't you

612
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: just say the world in the negative way? Because I

613
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: guess you're dying a little bit, and if you don't

614
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 4: get enough sleep, you die. So it's like a warning

615
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 4: sign to be like things are wrong.

616
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 5: Error eerror made you happy? You would you would try

617
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 5: to not sleep more and more offen can I tell you?

618
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 5: And then those people wouldn't survive the evolution area, I

619
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Speaker 5: I think I think I just decided on right now

620
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Speaker 5: this moment that therapy for me is bullshit. And I'm

621
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Speaker 5: a guy who has been to therapy. Actually there was

622
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Speaker 5: one time it helped me quite a lot, But like

623
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Speaker 5: I don't know, for I I to me a lot

624
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: of the times I'm just talking to a person and

625
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 5: I'm like, you don't. I'm running circles around you like you're.

626
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: Like I agree, yeah, yeah, go Like I feel the

627
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: amount of times in therapy I have had some sort

628
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: of breakthrough where they kind of feel like how I

629
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: got her there. I'm like, I gave you that, because

630
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: it's like I fake an orgasm, you know, like I

631
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 4: had an or like I have maybe had half of

632
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: one where I'm like, okay, thanks, you were there and

633
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: I like had to maybe you were there to facilitate this,

634
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 4: but like I gave you that and I made you

635
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: think you gave it to me kind of thing, like

636
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: I got myself there, and and then they go like I.

637
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: Think, And it's always I don't know. I just I

638
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: and I.

639
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: Know that this is just patting myself on the back,

640
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: but I just feel like I'm I'm emotionally aware of

641
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 4: this stuff. I just found myself a lot of times

642
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: in therapy and this is my fault and this is

643
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: probably something I have to work on with a therapist

644
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: who won't allow me to do it. But I give

645
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: them a lot of wins to like let them feel

646
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: like they're a good therapist. I fake orgasms. I fake

647
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: fake revelations all the time to make them feel good

648
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: because I.

649
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: Helped by anything in therapy.

650
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, of course it.

651
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: Specific thing.

652
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: The number one thing I think therapy is good for

653
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: for most people, not for me, because I'm in an

654
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: open book and I use this as you know, I

655
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: talk about my psyche all the time.

656
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: I don't hold anything back.

657
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: Ever, there's nothing in therapy that I wouldn't say here,

658
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: literally nothing. I just don't hold anything back, but I

659
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: think most people do. And so I think that therapy

660
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: is a place where most people can let things out

661
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: that they wouldn't let out anywhere else, and that in

662
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: and of itself, whether you get any feedback that is helpful,

663
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: just talking and saying things, especially for men who tend

664
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: to bottle up their feelings and not feel like they

665
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: can share their feelings, it's a place where you have

666
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: to do that, and I think it's so so essential

667
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: for them.

668
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: Like you know, the one time I.

669
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: Always quote this, but it was so cute the Chris

670
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: when into a like couple session with me and was like,

671
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: some of those things like I've only I've never said

672
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: them out loud, I've only thought and I'm like, I

673
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: have never once had a thought that I've not said

674
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: out loud. I honestly, I've never just said something, only

675
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: had a thought. I mean maybe that I'm unaware of.

676
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: But he really was like I think all these things,

677
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: but I've never said him out loud. And same with journaling.

678
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: It just that helps you. You need to get them out.

679
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: Being in your head is not the place to solve things.

680
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: You don't realize how much solving you do when you're

681
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: able to articulate something with your speech or with a pen.

682
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: And I think that's what it's essential for it.

683
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've had so how many things from my

684
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: abusive therapist Bengo card have I my abuse of doctor abusive?

685
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: Have I quoted on here of like that have helped me?

686
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: Like the one I said it yesterday to Brian. We

687
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: were talking about imposter syndrome and my therapist was like, Oh,

688
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: so you think you've tricked everyone. So you think you're

689
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: smarter than every single person that has ever given you

690
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: an opportunity, all your lists, all your fans, every network

691
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: that's ever given you a show. You think you're so

692
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: much smarter than them, And you fucking David Copperfield and

693
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: they're they they are just these dummies. And then when

694
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: she did that to me, I was like, no, I

695
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: do not think I'm smarter than everyone else. Like if

696
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: you flip it that way, it makes me realize, like, no,

697
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: you okay, now you're being a little selfish bitch to

698
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: think that you're so much smarter than everyone. And as

699
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: soon as she just held up that kind of mirror

700
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: and the second that she made me think, like, uh,

701
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: imposter syndrome actually is narcissism because you think you're smarter

702
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: than everyone and you've tricked people even though you.

703
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: Feel like you're worthless. Flip took.

704
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

705
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, but for every therapy pearl you get, you get

706
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: like weeks and weeks of therapy sand you never find

707
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 5: a pearl.

708
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: Therapist.

709
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like it's it's like I feel like going

710
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 5: to therapy is like skiing on a green trail, where

711
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 5: it's like at a certain point you're like I can

712
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 5: do the green trail with out a ski instructor, and

713
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: like they never get to the blue squares and the

714
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: black diamonds. There's just no I feel like at a

715
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 5: certain point you get the tools. I would understand going

716
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: to therapy if you had no clue about having like

717
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 5: any self awareness at all, to never explored your own

718
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: emotions and didn't have any tools at all. But after

719
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: like a couple of years of that, I feel like

720
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: you should go on your own and it's up to you.

721
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 5: It's on you to do that every day, not go

722
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 5: to there.

723
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: You need some you need an outlet that, you need

724
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: a friend that you can talk that openly to. You

725
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 4: need to journal, and people aren't doing those things. So therapy,

726
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: I think gives people that outlet. It's like, yeah, you

727
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: could lift weights in your apartment, but like a gym

728
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: is a place where someone's gonna tell you what ectual.

729
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 4: It's a trainer, you know, like you go do all

730
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: the shit on your own.

731
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of intelligent people talk them

732
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: out themselves out of therapy too, because they're like, I'm

733
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: smarter than that. It's for dummies, or it's for people

734
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: that are really fucked up. But then I've been in

735
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: therapy with incredibly intelligent and both of us can't figure

736
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: dick out, And I'm like, how are two intelligent people

737
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: that have bill been doing therapy for twenty years be

738
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: fighting about the dumbest shit and then I were creatures of.

739
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: Habit because one is a perfect example of therapy working

740
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 4: for someone so much like Noah is always the one

741
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: whenever I'm going off on the girl's chat to be like,

742
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: have you maybe considered getting back into therapy, like she

743
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: always tears me back into therapy because you had such

744
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: profound effects from it, And you're one of the smartest

745
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: people I know, emotionally intelligent, beyond anything I could ever be.

746
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: You always have such poignant the old meaning that I

747
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: used to think words of wisdom, and I know that

748
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: you weren't like that before. I didn't know the Nora

749
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 4: before therapy, but you were like a lost little bird,

750
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: an angry lost little bird. Right, Yes, wasn't therapy your

751
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: turning point?

752
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 5: Right?

753
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: Like for me therapy, I just like knew that I

754
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: was destined to have my parents' relationship. And even though

755
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: like I learned things from my parents that I didn't

756
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: want to be, didn't want to have, even though I

757
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: was like still like I was conscious of that, I

758
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: just kept going in the way of creating the things

759
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: that I didn't want, Like I didn't know how to

760
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: not get those things. And that's where therapy has truly

761
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: helped me. And like I was saying, sometimes I'll revert

762
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: to my old self because it's you know, like this

763
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: is stuff from when I was a baby though that

764
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: started like wiring and like looping together, and now I'm

765
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: like unwiring and then I have to rewire, and I

766
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: think it's just kind of like going to be my

767
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: life's work to do that.

768
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

769
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 4: The amount of times that the person I chose, who

770
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: reminds me nothing of my dad then does something exactly

771
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: like my dad, or like is ex or we act

772
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: out this dynamic that my mom and dad have. The

773
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: number of times that's happened, even though I'm doing everything

774
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 4: to not do that and I don't want that is

775
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: astounding to me. And like through it's just so subconscious

776
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 4: the things that we want to play out.

777
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: You know.

778
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: The big thing is that we are always acting out

779
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: the stories of our childhood to complete them because we

780
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: got these like mixed messages or like these these stories.

781
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 4: Like the story might be like you don't deserve love,

782
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: like your mom didn't give you enough attention, your dad

783
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: didn't wasn't around, he didn't hug you or say I

784
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: love you, so you're trying to complete that story of

785
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: like I am not lovable, like I got this feeling

786
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 4: as a child. I'm not, but like I never hurt,

787
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 4: Like I need to prove that to myself the rest

788
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: of my life. And it feels comfortable because it's what

789
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: you knew as a kid and you don't know anything else.

790
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: And so.

791
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 4: Therapy helps you identify those and do your best, even

792
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: though it's hard to steer clear of that and do

793
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: the opposite. I mean, I think we were talking about

794
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: it yesterday, but Anya, like the reason you ended up

795
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: with Matt was or like we're attracted to someone like

796
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: Matt or got him in the end was you had

797
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: to do the opposite action of what you were naturally

798
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: wanting to do. You naturally wanted to reach out to

799
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: him all the time. You nactually wanted to buy him

800
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: gifts or like write him like sweet things, send him

801
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: like sweet pictures of yourself, convince him like.

802
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Those should be together, tell me how he needs to

803
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: fix himself.

804
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: But the hard thing was telling him like, you know,

805
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 4: this is what I want and I can't really talk

806
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: to you unless we have that, and like and not

807
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: settling for any less and so yeah, just you have

808
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: someone in your corner with therapy to help you figure

809
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: out those kinds of actions and then you know, help

810
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: you stick to them.

811
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, therapy and definitely like non therapy approaches to which

812
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: is really just like Brian's talking about, like self reflective

813
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: work stuff where you truly get to know who you are.

814
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: Like before I would say, before I got sober and

815
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: like started in recovery and all that, I was the

816
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: most passive, aggressive person, had no idea of my own

817
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: intentions at all. And then once I stopped drinking. And

818
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: what's for an example, Like I remember a girlfriend of mine.

819
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: This is such a dumb example, but a girlfriend of

820
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: mine was dating a guy and they broke up and

821
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I ran into him a couple months later, and then

822
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: I texted her, oh my god, I ran into your

823
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: ex and she was like, uh yeah, and I wrote

824
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: back like he's so cute, and she's like, if you

825
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: want to date him, you can date him, and I

826
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: was like lol haha. I would never Oh my god, no,

827
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: like was going this is in my twenties, Like, oh

828
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: my god, I would never not knowing I was attracted

829
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: to him, I probably subconsciously reached out to her to

830
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: get some kind of permission and had no idea about

831
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: anything what you.

832
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: Wanted from her, And yeah, absolutely was Oh my god,

833
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: you should date him.

834
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: I don't care at all. I don't like him at all.

835
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: You should date him, clearly there's something there.

836
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: Yes, And I wasn't giving your a say, stop being

837
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: passive aggressive, Anya, and just do She said, you can

838
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: date him if you want, And then I did this

839
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: whole fucking number. Oh my god, no, no, no, and she said,

840
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: stop being passive aggressive period. You can like just be direct,

841
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. I gave you permission,

842
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: and I called her. She didn't pick up, and she

843
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: was a badass. She was like a recovery badass person.

844
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: And I remember I like looked up passive aggressive, thought

845
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: to myself, this is not the first time someone has

846
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: called me this. I don't know what this is, and

847
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: started like you know, over the years, realizing, oh god,

848
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: I am I do not know my own motives. Why

849
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: do I not know my own motives for stuff? I'm

850
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: too busy people pleasing and trying to do impression management

851
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: and control everybody's impression of me, and like be the

852
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: good girl and be the liked girl that I can't

853
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: be like, dude, I run into your ex, would it

854
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: be so weird if I went out with her like

855
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: we How do you feel about that?

856
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 5: Like?

857
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: No way would I have ever said that?

858
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: So now I scared you. So you learn that in

859
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 5: your twenties. So then you go to therapy now and

860
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 5: you're talking about this stuff to your therapist, and then

861
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 5: your therapist says something like have you ever heard of

862
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 5: the word passive aggressive?

863
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: And then that's exactly what happens in therapy.

864
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: What the fuck? Court you go?

865
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: Whoa mm hmmm.

866
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: I mean that's how still now this is like dating,

867
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: but a good therapist, which is an essential part of life.

868
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 4: I think, or of self care is just as hard

869
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: as finding a partner. It's not gonna you have to

870
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: That's why you've been through ten That's why I've been

871
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 4: through probably over thirty at this point, of different people

872
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: I've met throughout the years, and it takes one.

873
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: I always have to go. It's not like you have

874
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: to go every week or whatever, like I haven't. I've

875
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: been doing some couples therapy, but I haven't been to

876
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: like one on one therapy, I would say in Scott

877
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: several months. So it's not like I'm doing it con.

878
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: Yesterday I had a really good moment, but I felt

879
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: so guilty about it. I was on a call with

880
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: the network that is doing the show, so it's like

881
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: the people that are like in charge of everything, and

882
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 4: they're the ones that you ask the most too yes,

883
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: And I had this zoom call with them that I

884
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: forgot to get on. And by the way, I have

885
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: also I was having voice issues when they wanted me

886
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: to come to this like team meeting with where I

887
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: would meet them, and so I canceled that that day

888
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: because I was like, I just don't have a voice

889
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: for it. And I took care of myself that day.

890
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: And I was also like, we already got the show.

891
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 4: I'm gonna meet them on set like like I don't

892
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: need to do this and they'll understand, Like I really

893
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: couldn't make it. So yesterday we were shooting all day

894
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: and then like on my little one hour break that

895
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: I have from this fucking eleven hour day to eat

896
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 4: lunch and to relax and to get change out of

897
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: my dress and everything like that, they're like, you want

898
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: to jump on the zoom and I'm like, oh fuck,

899
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: it forgot so I get on the zoom and there's

900
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: like these three women that are like so awesome, so nice,

901
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: so excited, and this is the first time I'm meeting

902
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: the network, the big wigs, and we're talking about the

903
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: show and we're so excited and we're like just like

904
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: getting to know each other. But my stomach is desperate

905
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: for the food that I was just stuffing in my

906
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: face in front of me that I had to stop

907
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 4: because now I'm on a zoom. So I'm like looking

908
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: at the food. I realized that in ten minutes I

909
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: have to start getting into hair and makeup again. And

910
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: I'm and we've already covered. We're excited about the show.

911
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: Here's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna meet them tomorrow. They're

912
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: gonna be on.

913
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: Set and da da.

914
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: And then another person jumps on the meeting a little late,

915
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: one of my people on my team, so I already

916
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 4: know that person and they jump on and then I realize,

917
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: oh my god, he's jumped on late. We're gonna have

918
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 4: to do this all over again and go over. We're excited,

919
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: here's what's happened. Like I was just like I see this,

920
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: this is not gonna end anytime soon.

921
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: And I had just low.

922
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 4: Enough blood sugar, not enough caffeine, a little too tired,

923
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: a little too like thinking about my day, and I

924
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: just was like, I want you to know all too well.

925
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: Wasn't about her losing. No, No, I.

926
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: Had that moment though, I just go, guys, I'm really sorry.

927
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: I have to be in my makeup chair in fifteen

928
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 4: s It's something like I have to be back in

929
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: clothes and dressed in fifteen minutes. I haven't eaten lunch.

930
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: I really I can't wait to meet you tomorrow, but

931
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump off.

932
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: I have never once.

933
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: Ever done that to my bosses, Like can you imagine

934
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: doing that to your boss? And I was thinking I

935
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: was trying to channel Whitney Cummings or like someone who's like, girl,

936
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: you need to take care of yourself, like like someone

937
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: just being like listen to me, like holding my face

938
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: and being.

939
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Like you need to take care of yourself, you know,

940
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: like just do it.

941
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: And then I was also had the thought of like, no,

942
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 4: I'm I'm generally a very nice person to everyone on set,

943
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: no matter what level you're at. I'm never like I've

944
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: heard horror stories about celebrities and like them, and and

945
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 4: and the ones that are like aggressive and like stand

946
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: up for themselves and aren't like people pleasing all the

947
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: time tend to get more work than anyone. So I'm like,

948
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: if this goes the way I don't want it to,

949
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: and they think I'm a huge bitch who thinks them

950
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: I'm better than them, and I don't really care about

951
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: this meeting, which is none of that's true. If they

952
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 4: do take that away, it'll only benefit me because everyone

953
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: likes someone who tends to come off like a cunt anyway,

954
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: Like cunts get so much work in this town. So

955
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: and the off chance they do think I'm a cunt,

956
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: which I'm not, it'll probably benefit me.

957
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna do it.

958
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: And I and Brian was in the room when I

959
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 4: did it, because I oh also Brian was at craft

960
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 4: Services and texting me like pictures of what I wanted,

961
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: and I was couldn't get back to him because if

962
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: you go to a different screen on your zoom on

963
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: your phone, you don't, it goes blank and they know

964
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: you're doing something else, and they would have thought I

965
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: was like posting a thread or some shit, So I

966
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: like couldn't look at the pictures he was sending, and

967
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: I was like, and I knew he was not gonna

968
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: just wait there all day for me to get back

969
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: to him, and so I and he was and the

970
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: craft service is far away, and I was like, I'm

971
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: gonna miss out on four food and all I had

972
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: was these two little dumb side salads and I was

973
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: just panicking, and so I just and then Brian walked

974
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 4: back in coming back from Craft Service, and then I

975
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: just like did it, And I was like, I need

976
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: to pull the plug on this, and I was like,

977
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 4: after I said it, I was and just put down

978
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 4: the phone. I was like, oh no, And I instantly

979
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: texted the two other guys on the phone, which are

980
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: also kind of my bosses, the EPs of the show,

981
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: and I'm an EP on the show, but they're like

982
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: EEPs and executive executive piece and so I texted them

983
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: both like I'm so sorry I had to jump, and

984
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: I could tell that they were probably like our talent

985
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 4: is like kind of being a little in the past.

986
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: I will like go down on the network, like I'll

987
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 4: be like, do you want to just step off to

988
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: the side, and I can like blow.

989
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: You for a couple of minutes like, thank you so much.

990
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: I don't deserve this job, like I I will do

991
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: anything for the network. And I was just it was

992
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: the first time I ever stood up for myself and

993
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: was like, I'm I'm doing too much today. There's I

994
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: don't need to be having an innocuous conversation on Zoom.

995
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 4: We've already covered all the bases. It's just going to

996
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: be more like small talk. And I showed up do any.

997
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: More small talk?

998
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: You showed up on time?

999
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it was a little late to that Zoom,

1000
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: but I did show up. I did it.

1001
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 4: And but I would say ninety percent of talent would

1002
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: not have done what I did. And I was a

1003
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: little proud that I did because the old me would

1004
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: not have done that. And maybe it was me. It

1005
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: could have been a bad move. But I'm going to

1006
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: meet them today and I'll probably apologie.

1007
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: I think, very good move. I don't think you should

1008
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 5: apologize profusely Apologe. Now, people, everybody in Hollywood gravitates towards

1009
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: narcissists for a reason. It's because when you are when

1010
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 5: you act like you're better than or whatever, then people

1011
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: think like, oh my god, they're probably better than me.

1012
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 5: Now I have to appease them, So I think the

1013
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: only thing you achieved in that moment is maybe you've

1014
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 5: raised your status in their eyes.

1015
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: I know, it's crazy. The thing that I did not

1016
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 4: want to do is only going to benefit me. Whenever

1017
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: I accidentally come off like a bitch, I'm like, this

1018
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 4: is just don't worry about it, because everyone likes a bitch.

1019
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: Why men love bitch. There's like books about it.

1020
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: I'm not saying this way in life, but in Hollywood,

1021
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 5: it's like the number one thing to get ahead is

1022
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: to act like a narcissist, like you're better than everyone else.

1023
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 5: You walk into the room and you make everyone feel

1024
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: like this is the biggest star I've ever seen in

1025
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 5: my life. And if you go go any lower than that,

1026
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: if you go lower than the people you're talking to,

1027
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: then they're like, this person is a waste of my time.

1028
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 5: I don't need to treat them like anything.

1029
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: Apps to highlight level jobs, yeah, anytime you're like in

1030
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: a high level somewhere, that's just something that you have

1031
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: to bring to the table.

1032
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 6: So why is.

1033
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: It being a bitch to just take care of yourself

1034
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: and you're you're setting the tone and I like that

1035
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: you're doing it early on because these people are getting

1036
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: to know how you work and what you consider productive time.

1037
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: So to you, this is a productive length of zoom.

1038
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: You also are letting them know you have ten minutes

1039
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: until you have to be somewhere and you have to eat,

1040
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: so they're you're setting the tone for how this jounre is.

1041
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: So bravo. Yeah, getting back to Jonah, Yeah, these.

1042
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 5: Are boundaries you're not and also there's a line though

1043
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: that you can cross, because you can get too far.

1044
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 5: We discussed this yesterday. Also that woman for Men in Black,

1045
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 5: which we don't know why. We don't know why that happened.

1046
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 4: This fascinating, I was fascinating. Everyone remembers Men in Black,

1047
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: right the first one. Anya probably didn't see it because

1048
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 4: she did Aladdin or Titanic. This was all during this

1049
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 4: was a phase where Anya was I only knows what

1050
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: you were doing in nineteen ninety eight, during the summer

1051
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 4: when all these blockbuster hits.

1052
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: I Seen Men in Black came out.

1053
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: I think it was ninety eight.

1054
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: It was nineteen ninety seven, Okay, Titanic and Men in Black?

1055
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: Did you see Men in Black?

1056
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 6: Anya?

1057
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: No, it's so good. You have to see it, you

1058
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: really do. It's really good.

1059
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: But there was a woman in it who played the mortician,

1060
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: who was Will Smith's love interest, and she was amazing

1061
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: in it. And then she disappeared from Hollywood, and I

1062
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: thought when Brian told me this, I was like, oh

1063
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 4: my god, we didn't see her in anything else. She

1064
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: must have not fucked Harvey Weinstein, like she must have

1065
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: blacklisted her.

1066
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: That's probably what happened.

1067
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: The initial things where we thought she maybe died. Because

1068
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: I was Ali was watching Men in Black. It's one

1069
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 5: of her comfort movies. She loves Will Smith, even postslap,

1070
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: she loves Will Smith, and I was just walking in

1071
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: I saw this scene with this woman and I was like,

1072
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 5: I've seen this woman in a lot of things. But

1073
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 5: then I looked her up on IMDb, and her IMDb

1074
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 5: critics just stop. After nineteen ninety eight, she did one

1075
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 5: more movie after Men in Black, and then they just stop,

1076
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 5: and she hadn't done anything anything at all since then.

1077
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 5: And like Men in Black was a huge blockbuster movie,

1078
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: so like the biggest of the summer that summer, you know,

1079
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 5: it was. Her career was all but external. Looking at it,

1080
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 5: it seemed like it was going to blow up after this,

1081
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 5: and then it just stopped. Nothing, not even some indie film,

1082
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 5: not even some NYU student called her up. Nothing. So

1083
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 5: she must have died. She must have died or opted

1084
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 5: to retire for some reason. Maybe she's like, I'm going

1085
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 5: to focus on my family. Whatever it was, So you

1086
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 5: dug into it, I dug it. I went on my

1087
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 5: little computer and I have a really small computer, and

1088
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: I went on it and I looked her up.

1089
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: Turns out no one has ever called it a computer

1090
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: for the past, Like.

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00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 5: I went on my personal computer.

1092
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 4: It's on me the other day. That was like, remember

1093
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: when we had a computer room? But you remember, you

1094
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: were like, it's in the computer room.

1095
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: Was the room in their house? No one thinks about

1096
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 3: it anymore?

1097
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: Really, Okay, So anyway, you went in your computer room,

1098
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: you typed in.

1099
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: I went in my computer room, I logged onto AOL

1100
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 5: and I looked up Subtle Thing that was also a

1101
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 5: Dave Matthews song from ninety seven. I looked her up

1102
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 5: and then it turns out that she is hard to

1103
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 5: work with? Was the Fiorentino? Multiple people? Yeah, so what happened?

1104
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: So multiple people said she was hard to work with?

1105
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 5: Now one of them was Harvey Weinstein, So that instantaneously

1106
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: makes this seem questionable, suspicious, Yes, it's suspicious.

1107
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: She was great, wasn't she in Like, what was the movie?

1108
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: The iconic film? Was it The Last Seduction or something?

1109
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: She was so good in anyway.

1110
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 4: Well, what happened with Men in Black two? Because that

1111
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: was an interesting story around that.

1112
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 5: So Men in Black two is going to come out

1113
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 5: because and Men in Black one was such a huge hit.

1114
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 5: And if you watch the end of Men in Black one,

1115
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 5: Tommy Lee Jones's character, it's Emily Jones and Will Smith.

1116
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: Tomily Jones' character gets a great send off. It's like

1117
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 5: he either retires or dies at the end, I can't remember,

1118
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 5: but he's done. He's clearly out. It was a beautiful ending,

1119
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 5: a beautiful movie, and it was clear that it was

1120
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 5: setting up. To me, it was setting up that Will

1121
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 5: Smith and Linda Feartino they're gonna have some kind of

1122
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 5: relationship after this, and if there was a sequel, it

1123
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 5: was clear they would be the leads. But then Men

1124
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 5: in Black two comes out and it's Tommy Lee Jones

1125
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: and Will Smith and Linda Fiorentino is nowhere to be found.

1126
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 5: They don't even mention her in this movie. So it

1127
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 5: turns out that according to accounts that I read on websites,

1128
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 5: so take that for what you will. But Tommy Lee

1129
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 5: Jones was asked, we got to have that chemistry between

1130
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 5: Will Smith and Tommily Jones and Men in Black two,

1131
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 5: you gotta come back. I know you died or whatever,

1132
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: but we're gonna come. You're gonna come back. And then

1133
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 5: he said, I will only do Men in Black two

1134
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 5: if Linda Fiorentino is not in it.

1135
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones said that Tommy Lee.

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 5: Yes, Jones, Yeah, so I wonder what she was like, Yes.

1137
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard Tommy Lee is incredibly difficult to

1138
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: work with too, So it's sad that exactly.

1139
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: Maybe he's like, I'm the one who's difficult.

1140
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 5: And then also any yeah, Kevin Smith said she was either,

1141
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 5: but then he apologized for later. So multiple enough people

1142
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 5: said she was hard to work with, that she never worked.

1143
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: On data about this, well, she listen, she I'm looking

1144
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 4: at IMDb. That is a it's not completely true. She

1145
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: did Dogma with Kevin Smith and that's where that came from.

1146
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: Then she went on to one, two, three, four, five,

1147
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 4: more things. Two thousand she did three movies, but you've

1148
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: never heard of any of them. Two thousand and two

1149
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: she did one more, and then two thousand and nine

1150
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: she did a video. It doesn't even say a movie,

1151
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: it's just a video.

1152
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: Was a sexy actress and great.

1153
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: Ye she was like striking more a tyranny. What about

1154
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: Jett Butler?

1155
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: How she went away? And then we see her again

1156
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: decades later, and she's amazing In the Morning Show.

1157
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: I saw her. Oh was she in the Morning Room?

1158
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 3: Wasn't she? What was she in the Morning Show?

1159
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: She was somebody's mother coming Backspoon's mom.

1160
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well I saw her in The Ralphs in

1161
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: two thousand, probably nine, and she was shopping at like

1162
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 4: three am. Because I used to have an eating disorder

1163
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 4: and that's when I would go grocery shopping for my binges.

1164
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 4: And I started three in the morning and we were

1165
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: both not doing well in that Ralphs. But she was

1166
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 4: buying two gigantic Siberian tiger stuffed animals from.

1167
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: Among other things in her cart, and I just remember

1168
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: being like, she's a legend, you know, she's a stand up.

1169
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 4: Anyway, we got it to go to break we'll come

1170
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 4: back with actual Jonah Hill text and we'll talk about

1171
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 4: them when we get back.

1172
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: All right, we're back. Let's get into this Jonahill thing.

1173
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: Let me read some of these texts.

1174
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 4: So, if you don't know his girlfriend, ex girlfriend, Sarah Brady,

1175
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: they broke up last August. He is now with someone else,

1176
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 4: but they used to wear matching outfits on the red carpet.

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00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 3: She's a she's a surfer girl.

1178
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 4: She's professor surfer and she posted on her Instagram story

1179
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: over the weekend kind of like she The first one

1180
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: is says, this is a warning to all girls. If

1181
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: your partner is talking to you like this, make an

1182
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 4: exit plan. Love, y'all call me if you need an

1183
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 4: ear And so she posted texts exchange from them. This

1184
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: one is a picture of her surfing, and then under

1185
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: it Jonah wrote respect. However you want to live your life,

1186
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: you only get one. And let me just say unless

1187
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 4: I say there's a period, there's not okay.

1188
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: Respect, how you live your life? You only get one?

1189
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: And then the next text says sort of done with

1190
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 4: explaining myself. She said three removed not the video yet?

1191
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 4: Is it my best surf? It is my best surfing

1192
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 4: video would period Would you feel better if the cover

1193
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 4: frame was different?

1194
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: Question mark? Any more specific ones that bother you? Question Mark.

1195
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 4: I have to say, this comes off with someone who

1196
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: knows they're going to post this someday. But maybe it's

1197
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: just an abused girlfriend or like a girlfriend that's feeling

1198
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 4: like like she just I've been that girlfriend before, Like

1199
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 4: whatever you want, is there anything else I can do

1200
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: for you? But this kind of feels to me like

1201
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: and then this is just my spidey sense of someone

1202
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: who knows that they're going to share this with friends

1203
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: and they want to look more victimy.

1204
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: And.

1205
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 5: She's like prepping for her deposition with this text.

1206
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: She was in law school. That's interesting.

1207
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 3: You said that this also could be that she really

1208
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 3: felt this way.

1209
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 4: So I don't want to I'm not don't come at

1210
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: me for about this is just I can't help what

1211
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 4: my thoughts are.

1212
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm just sharing them.

1213
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 4: This is not the truth though, Okay, what I'm thinking

1214
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: about this is not what actually happened, So don't misconstrue

1215
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: that I'm accusing anything. And he wrote back, she said,

1216
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 4: any more specific ones that bother you? He wrote back, Yes,

1217
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: one that isn't of your ass and a song. First

1218
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: of all, that doesn't make any sense. She said, any

1219
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: more ones that bother you? And he said, yes, the

1220
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: one that one that isn't of your ass in a song.

1221
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 4: So the one that isn't of her ass bothers him. No,

1222
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: I meant to say, no, he just the thing that

1223
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: the takeaway from all these I just want to say

1224
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 4: before we really get into them, is that he might

1225
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 4: be illiterate. U he I don't understand why celebrities who

1226
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 4: I really respect to are like when any of this

1227
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: ever comes out.

1228
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 3: My general takeaway is that.

1229
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: People can't write, and people on text message sound like

1230
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: they've had multiple concussions through there, like they sound mentally disabled.

1231
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 4: When they write, they sound like three year olds that

1232
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 4: grabbed their mom's phone and just pressed a bunch of buttons.

1233
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 5: Because he didn't finish college. So it's a good point.

1234
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how he got in with this. He

1235
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: didn't definitely didn't get in through his essay. Okay, So

1236
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 4: then she goes, fuck it, this is the title of

1237
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: this one. She posts another one. He writes a plain

1238
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: and simple colon and then nothing underneath that. Then if

1239
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 4: you need colon, So two things that have colon.

1240
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. And with men you need yeah,

1241
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: what do you mean He's saying.

1242
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: If you need surfing with men modeling, blah blah blah,

1243
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: shots and bikinis. We get that, but then we are

1244
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: not a good match.

1245
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 5: I understand that, but just say that.

1246
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: You don't need to say like if you need and

1247
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 3: then all these lists just right into the scent.

1248
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 5: The thing that's weird to me is that it's plane

1249
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: and simple colon and then if you need colon, So

1250
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 5: there's nothing under the plane and simple. So if you

1251
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 5: need colon is a subcolon of the plane in simple colon.

1252
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 5: So you have to just assume that all of the

1253
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 5: rest of this and if you need colon is being

1254
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 5: plain and simple.

1255
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: By the way, also that you're going to get a

1256
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: take on this relationship, you're not. All we want to

1257
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: do today is talk about the grammar of this.

1258
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: It takes there's a period later in this there's a

1259
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 5: it's a space and then a period. That's just sit

1260
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 5: I see that.

1261
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: Can we stop with the space period space and also

1262
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 4: ellipses being over three dotsmax?

1263
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 2: Can I add one more thing to this plane and simple?

1264
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: I believe that he wrote this in his notepad and

1265
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: then pasted it into texts just by the format.

1266
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 4: Okay, so the next text, plain and simple. If you

1267
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 4: need colon surfing with men, boundaryless inappropriate friendships with the men,

1268
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: to model, to post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit,

1269
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: to post sexual pictures, friendships with women who are in

1270
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 4: unstable places and from your wild recent past. Beyond getting

1271
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: a lunch or coffee or something respectful, then a space.

1272
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: I am not the right partner for you space period. Space.

1273
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 4: If these things bring you to a place of happiness,

1274
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: I support it and there will be no hard feelings.

1275
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: These are my boundaries for a roman, for romantic partnership.

1276
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 4: My boundaries capital w with you based on the ways

1277
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 4: these actions have hurt our trust space period.

1278
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: See what is that?

1279
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 5: This is a person who has been to a lot

1280
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 5: of therapy who is now weaponizing the tools of therapy

1281
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 5: again because he's trying to say like, look, I'm only

1282
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 5: see a boundary boundaries. These are just me setting my boundaries.

1283
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 5: I'm and this is why no one should go to therapy.

1284
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 5: I'm on that train now, Jonah Hill. Let's figure it

1285
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 5: out how to take twist it perverb.

1286
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: People are saying this weaponized therapy thing. What's the difference

1287
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: between a guy just having like he doesn't want to

1288
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: date someone who has model pictures and post pictures of

1289
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: her ass and and him stating that and like that's

1290
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: he's uncomfortable with that, and being a controlling douchebag, Like,

1291
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: what's the difference between those?

1292
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 5: I want to be clear here. I love Jonah Hill.

1293
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 5: I love he's incredibly talented bombing Jonah I if I

1294
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 5: had a reading with him, I hope he likes me anyway.

1295
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 5: Uh well, I think like some of these things he's

1296
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 5: asking for is are unfair, Like if he if he

1297
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 5: was entering a relationship with a professional surfer, he should

1298
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 5: know that she's going to be doing a lot of

1299
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 5: things in his plane and simple colon list like surfing

1300
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 5: with men, modeling, posting pictures of yourself in a bathing suit.

1301
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 5: It's like these are just.

1302
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: He should maybe not date a surfer and just bail

1303
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 4: out on his own without asking her to stop doing

1304
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: all of these things.

1305
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 5: Right in order to be with him. He's shaming her

1306
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 5: for being who she is, and that's not cool.

1307
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: That was my initial reaction. Okay, okay, so then better

1308
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 4: take well, let's keep going. Then she says, uh, she said,

1309
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 4: I guess she's texting. I don't know who she's texting about.

1310
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 4: She's saying, let's see, she wrote. And I asked him

1311
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: to make a list of his needs too, but I

1312
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: think his list ended up being like five rules for me,

1313
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 4: not anything that he needed the freedom to do in

1314
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: his life himself. Like his list of needs was not

1315
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 4: a list of needs. It was a list of expectation

1316
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 4: rules for me. When we ended it is because we

1317
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: couldn't agree on that. And then I stayed friends with

1318
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 4: him for the next six months, and he just kept

1319
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: chalking up our breakup to us being in different places

1320
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 4: in our life, when that's bullshit. That's not the main

1321
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 4: reason it wasn't working. So he kept me on as

1322
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 4: a close emotional confidant after the breakup, sexting me on

1323
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: July thirteenth, twenty twenty two, visiting me, oh, this's almost

1324
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 4: the anniversary of that, visited me in my apartment in

1325
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: my hometown early August twenty twenty two, and then waited

1326
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 4: till a week after I moved to wife for law

1327
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 4: school to sey me a text being like, by the way,

1328
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: I'm in a new relationship. Okay, nothing of that sounds bad, Like,

1329
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: at what point is she going to take any accountability?

1330
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 4: You stayed friends with him, like you don't have to

1331
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 4: be as emotional confidant. Maybe you stop and pull out,

1332
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 4: like I just have a problem a little with like

1333
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 4: why did you keep going? But then then people will

1334
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: come at me like, well she was an abusive relationship.

1335
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 4: You can't get out of that. He tricked her, he manipulated,

1336
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 4: and then she said, well, then there's a textas change

1337
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 4: with them both. And this is from August thirtieth, twenty

1338
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 4: twenty two. That's what she labeled it. She said, what's

1339
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: tomorrow like for you? You free anytime between this and this?

1340
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 4: He said, I don't want to bail on school. On

1341
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 4: you to bailance. I don't want you to bail on school.

1342
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 4: That's important. No, no period, that's all one sentence, you guys.

1343
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: I know I don't need to, but in this spirit

1344
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 4: text school, what'd you say?

1345
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 5: As you can tell from my text, grammar school is important.

1346
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 4: I know I don't need to, but in the spirit

1347
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: of pure respect to our friendship and appreciation for each other,

1348
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 4: I did not want to be transparent that I did

1349
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 4: start dating. I did want to be pret transparent that

1350
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 4: I did start dating someone recently. I'm sorry if this

1351
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 4: is painful. It just happened, and I didn't want to

1352
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 4: not be transparent with you ever as I care about you.

1353
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: She said, thanks for letting me know. Probably best if

1354
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 4: we don't talk for a while and you figure out

1355
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 4: what where that's headed. He said, I appreciate and understand that. Okay,

1356
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: there's nothing bad there. That seems okay. Then the next

1357
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: day she texts, not that it's really my business, but

1358
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: out of my own personal chicks before Dick's code, if

1359
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 4: that's headed anywhere other than hookup or fling, I'd appreciate

1360
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: if you make that woman aware of how recently you've

1361
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 4: been flirting with me, sexting me and learning leaning on

1362
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 4: me for emotional level support, on me for partner level

1363
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 4: emotional support. And he goes, I'm sorry what, and I

1364
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: have the same reaction, Fuck you?

1365
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: He can date. You weren't dating.

1366
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 4: Him, you were texting him, and you guys were both

1367
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 4: probably leaning on each other, and you're fucking mad that

1368
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 4: he's with someone else, and so now you're like you

1369
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 4: gotta let her know that we have been seriously talking

1370
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 4: and everything, and.

1371
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: It's like, what, No, he doesn't.

1372
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: He just put up that boundary with her, like this

1373
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: needs to end because I am in something with someone else.

1374
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 4: I don't need to go backtrack and tell her that

1375
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 4: I've been talking to two women.

1376
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 3: It sounds like they just made it official.

1377
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: Therefore, now is the starting point of you can't talk

1378
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: to anyone else, not before.

1379
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. Everybody in the history of dating has had

1380
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 5: a little bit of an overlap. Like if you're dating

1381
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 5: two people and then you decide to get with one person,

1382
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 5: you gotta then let the other one go or whatever,

1383
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 5: and like you just don't talk about that with your

1384
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 5: current person. That's just the way it goes.

1385
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 4: Right, and he wrote, I have been there for you

1386
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 4: as a friend, which I have made very clear. And

1387
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 4: not only is it not your business, as I only

1388
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 4: mentioned it to you out of respect and friendship, but

1389
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 4: I have not been flirting with you or sexting you

1390
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 4: in any way where it would be inappropriate at this

1391
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 4: time to start dating someone. And if anything, I have

1392
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 4: felt for you, and if anything, I have felt for

1393
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: your change and tried to be a good and supportive friend,

1394
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 4: as you transition to a scary new environment, and to

1395
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 4: be crystal clear, I have not flirted or sexted with

1396
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 4: you in any way, shape or form in months, and

1397
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: went to say goodbye to you as a super kind

1398
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: gesture that you seem to have appreciated because it was kind,

1399
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 4: and then she then I was from continuing on. I'm

1400
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 4: sorry if that's upsetting that I would move on at

1401
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 4: all six months later, but I've handled you and I

1402
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 4: and I with utmost love and respect. Thanks, don't ruin

1403
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: all the kindness. You're better than that, which I never

1404
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: like it. You're better than that. And then she wrote

1405
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 4: in response to as you transition to a scary new

1406
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 4: environment data, she wrote, never really seen it as scary

1407
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 4: and then he and he said I have not you

1408
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 4: know in response to her being like to be crystically

1409
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 4: and in response to him saying I've been I've not

1410
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: flirted or sexted with you in any way, shape orform

1411
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 4: in months, she had searched through her text for holding

1412
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 4: my hand right, that's phrase holding no, just holding my dick, Oh,

1413
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: holding my dick, Sorry, holding my dick, and he had

1414
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 4: written on the thirteenth of July, so that was a

1415
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 4: month removed from that, and she she goes, whatever helps

1416
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: you get through the day, gotta focus on mine now, audios.

1417
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 4: He said, new side of you, Sarah, I care about.

1418
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 3: You and we'll always.

1419
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 5: And then you think that's a typo or is that

1420
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 5: a thing that the kids are saying?

1421
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: Maybe that was their name, you know, like on the way,

1422
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: like by the way.

1423
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 4: I heard a new gen Z phrase the other day.

1424
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: A girl was talking to her friend. I overheard it

1425
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 4: in the shop in New York during on his wedding weekend.

1426
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 4: And this girl's talking to her friend and she was like,

1427
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: and then my dad was like, you're spending too much

1428
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 4: money on clothes. And I was like, Dad, say less,

1429
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 4: and I was like, and then I googled say less

1430
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 4: slang and it's very much a thing.

1431
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, it's it's almost over. Actually say less.

1432
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm really late to that.

1433
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 4: It's like that word shoogie or whatever, which means kind

1434
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 4: of like okay. So he said, new side of you, Sarah,

1435
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 4: I care about you and will always be your friend

1436
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 4: as I have been. Yes, we sexted two months ago.

1437
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 5: That's all right.

1438
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 3: So that was one and a half months.

1439
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 4: But you know who's whatever he's rounding up, he said.

1440
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 4: Screenshotting intimate text between us is a huge triggering violation

1441
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 4: for me in breach of trust as a friend, and

1442
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 4: I have explained to you about breaches of trust.

1443
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: I have been trust.

1444
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 4: This is all one sentence, and I've explained to you

1445
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: about breaches of trust I have been. I have had

1446
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 4: between trusted friends recently that have caused me trauma. I

1447
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: am in oh okay, period. I am incredibly hurt and

1448
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 4: feel a lack of safety where I've always trusted you.

1449
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: Period.

1450
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 4: I'm sorry if a former partner moving on is painful,

1451
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 4: and I empathize with that space period space. But I

1452
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: have done nothing wrong, and if I wasn't a public person,

1453
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have this kind of I wouldn't face this

1454
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 4: kind of violation and have shared with you that and

1455
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 4: have shared that with you, and then watching you be

1456
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 4: like this today shatters my ability to trust anybody even further.

1457
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 3: Period.

1458
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 4: I have always shown you kindness and support. It is extreme,

1459
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 4: but like that is probably extremely triggering to be like, Okay,

1460
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 4: this person, he probably saw all of this coming in

1461
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 4: that moment, like this, what this, what's the word deluged.

1462
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: What's the word when things all come out at once?

1463
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: Wording deluge?

1464
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 5: Like?

1465
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 3: What is it? It's like.

1466
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 4: Deluge of text messages that she shared Like he probably

1467
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: saw this coming in that moment, is freaking out because listen,

1468
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 4: she is capable of this space. He goes on to say,

1469
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 4: i have nothing to decide in my life, but I'm still

1470
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 4: entitled to safety and privacy, just like you were anyone

1471
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 4: else's period space, period space.

1472
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: I thought you'd understand that.

1473
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 4: Oh just you wait, yeah right, this has really shattered

1474
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 4: my sense of faith in you as a human.

1475
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 3: I thought we would always be friends. Sarah.

1476
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: I've done nothing wrong, and I'm sorry if you're bummed,

1477
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 4: but this line of texting today has really deeply let

1478
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: me down and broken my trust as a friend. She said,

1479
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 4: I'm showing your own text to I'm just showing your

1480
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 4: own text to me. Can you put yourself in my

1481
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 4: shoes for a sec? How I might feel gas lit

1482
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: by your behavior in communication?

1483
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: He said, I'm happy to speak on the phone, but no,

1484
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 3: that is a good point.

1485
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't believe you had screenshot text and

1486
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just screenshotting this.

1487
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 4: I but he's triggered because apparently recently he had a

1488
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 4: breach of trust within his close personal friends. He says,

1489
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: so to say, you feel gaslet when I was being

1490
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: nice as absurd. You are hurt that I kissed someone

1491
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 4: and I'm beginning to date fair. You have not been gaslet.

1492
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 4: You have been treated, in fact, incredibly, both emotionally, incredibly,

1493
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 4: both emotionally and financially.

1494
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: Woo, I just saw that. That's a whole other thing.

1495
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: I guess anyway, go on what I believe that because

1496
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: I went down a deep dive on her Instagram story,

1497
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: she said no to a lot of jobs and opportunities

1498
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: because he was asked. I think he paid for her

1499
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: and helped pay for law school and helped pay for therapy.

1500
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: But she was sort of starting to say goodbye and

1501
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: know to work opportunity stuff for him for the relationship.

1502
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, So it seems like at this point there's

1503
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 5: been a transition, whereas before she was prepping for her

1504
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 5: deposition and now Jonah is prepping for his deposition. Because

1505
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 5: everything he's saying at this point is like is like

1506
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 5: very He's aware that he's being screenshot. Yes, I am,

1507
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 5: I know this is coming and I am going to

1508
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 5: say everything perfectly above board here, and I think he's

1509
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 5: doing a pretty good job other than.

1510
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: I mean, this goes on and on. Imagine reading through

1511
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: all of this, I don't care.

1512
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 5: Is like, this is not something that we should be

1513
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: seeing at all. This is just a.

1514
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 3: Break bullshit, fuck final spot.

1515
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 5: Let's just bullshit.

1516
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 4: Say what it is. This is an invasion of privacy.

1517
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 4: Go to therapy, share this with your girlfriends. We've all

1518
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 4: done it. I mean, my fucking I go through my

1519
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 4: photos sometimes and it is literally like, I have probably

1520
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 4: seventy thousand photos of my phone. Ten percent are screenshots

1521
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 4: of texts from guys that would never love me to

1522
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 4: my girlfriends. Okay, I would never, in my wildest dreams

1523
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 4: go on and post them on my Instagram story. It's

1524
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: an unhinged behavior, There's no question about it. It's not

1525
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 4: a good look. I don't Jonah might not have acted

1526
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 4: perfectly in this one thing I did enjoy that isn't

1527
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 4: on this BuzzFeed thing that I was reading from. He

1528
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 4: said that he didn't want pictures of her ass up,

1529
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 4: but it was the number.

1530
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 3: It was the picture.

1531
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: There's an ass picture that she posted, which is the

1532
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 4: reason they started dating and talking responding to it.

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, they should have broken up because Jonah Hill's boundaries

1534
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 5: were crossed. And but he should have known that those

1535
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,480
Speaker 5: boundaries are going to be crossed when he started.

1536
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 4: Because he's dating a girl that he went after. I

1537
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: think he said stripper but surfer, yeah, he yeah, he

1538
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 4: knew what she was when he went in, so he

1539
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 4: should have maybe he learned along the way. He can't

1540
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 4: handle that. Whatever it is, we shouldn't be seeing this.

1541
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 4: This is it's Noah said it before. You feel like

1542
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 4: this is doxing.

1543
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I just don't feel right about tar and

1544
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: feathering someone we weren't there for their relationship. We don't

1545
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 2: know the whole story, and I just agree, Like, to me,

1546
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 2: doxing is one of the most cruel things. I don't

1547
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: care who it's about. I just don't like it, and

1548
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 2: I wish that it won't happen.

1549
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 3: It's cruel.

1550
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 5: I know.

1551
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: As soon as this all was posted, I felt like,

1552
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 4: this girl needs some help and probably needs to go

1553
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 4: see a therapist and get some She seems well, we

1554
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: do have better help as our sponsors, So I want

1555
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,400
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1556
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1557
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 4: listen this people were I think everything. The initial response

1558
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 4: was like how dare this guy? And then I think,

1559
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 4: now the tide is kind of turning and people are

1560
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 4: kind of opening their eyes, like why do we even

1561
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 4: get to see this in the first place?

1562
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 3: And Yeah, I just feel I feel like this girl.

1563
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 4: I felt this way before when people have moved on

1564
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 4: too quickly and you want to you're hurt and you

1565
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 4: know that you can't give them back, so why not

1566
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 4: just and you're kind of releasing it to like warn

1567
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: other women.

1568
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about her endgame or her motive.

1569
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: We were talking about motives earlier and I heard her

1570
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: say in a voice memo that her motive was to

1571
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: reach this new girlfriend and mom of his kid, And

1572
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, why.

1573
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: Why not I just DM her?

1574
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? And also I think to educate other women, like

1575
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: this is not boundaries, this is controlling behavior, This is

1576
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: asking me to.

1577
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 5: Change.

1578
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: Who asked problem to be the savior of all women.

1579
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: I don't think this was healthy on either side, But

1580
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 4: I don't feel like we should be reading these stecks

1581
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 4: and it does.

1582
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 5: It does. The verdict Judge Nick the verdict in the

1583
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 5: case of Jonah versus I don't know the girl's name.

1584
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 3: I don't want to date Jonah Hill.

1585
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 4: I don't feel like this is would be someone that

1586
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 4: I could date because of the way that I would

1587
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 4: feel very upset if someone asked me to remove stuff

1588
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 4: like that or like thought I was being like slutty

1589
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 4: or wanting attention for doing the thing that like is

1590
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,440
Speaker 4: required of my career, Like what does he expect.

1591
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 3: Her to swim in and to surf it like a burn?

1592
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: Don't get I think he asked for a wet suit.

1593
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 4: That's fucking crazy. I'm sorry that it's insane. He shouldn't

1594
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 4: have asked that stuff. But I also the verdict is guys,

1595
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 4: watch out for Yeah, guys, I mean, just know that

1596
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 4: your your texts aren't safe and that and you're every

1597
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: where she was like you could see the shift in

1598
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 4: the way he talked. His grammar got better, his sentence

1599
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: structure got more complete.

1600
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: Right after he.

1601
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 4: Realized she was screenshotting, it was like, uh, oh, time

1602
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 4: for damage control and he's going to be on. He

1603
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 4: should have realized it earlier. You know that this is

1604
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 4: oh fuck my voice lesson? I didn't text my fucking

1605
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 4: teacher that I wasn't happening today, God damn it. But yeah,

1606
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 4: he should have realized it earlier that this was going

1607
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 4: to be a problem. But this is when guys are

1608
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 4: just like horny and they're not thinking and they send

1609
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 4: they shoot off text to some hot girl, like, just

1610
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 4: jerk off before you text someone. Stop dating people who

1611
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 4: are going to screenshot your text. Stop dating girls in

1612
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 4: their twenties. Yeah, is she in her twenties? I'm guessing

1613
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 4: she is. Yeah, and he's like nearly forty. He's my age,

1614
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 4: so yeah, stop dating women in their twenties. And yeah,

1615
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's the takeaway from it.

1616
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 5: There's one line on Jonah Hills and he deserved it

1617
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 5: that says, I want to I want to highlight that

1618
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 5: says you have not been gas lit, which is like,

1619
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 5: I don't think you can say that, So I don't

1620
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 5: think you can say that.

1621
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: You can't.

1622
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 4: It's not wrong, it's not see more on to tell

1623
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 4: someone they haven't been gas lit, you're like gaslighting. Yeah,

1624
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 4: Like grammatically that was correct, But I do believe that

1625
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 4: gaslighting has taken on a new fucking like everything's gaslight lighting,

1626
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 4: like someone on Reddit recently was like, gaslighting, by the way,

1627
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 4: is not if a guy lies to you, it's not

1628
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 4: gaslighting like gaslighting does like does require lying, but not

1629
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 4: every lie is a gaslight like gaslighting, she's lying, but

1630
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 4: lying does not equal gaslight.

1631
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: I was also confused about her calling it gaslighting because

1632
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: I think he said, like, we haven't sexted in four

1633
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: five months or something, and then she screenshotted and he's like, fine,

1634
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: four months or whatever. I'm getting the details wrong, but

1635
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: it was like one month off. That doesn't really make

1636
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: it gaslighting.

1637
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: It's a little it's a little bit because she said

1638
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 4: he said three months, and then she proved him wrong

1639
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 4: with a month and a half earlier.

1640
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: He said, I'm holding my dick, and then he goes

1641
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 3: two months, so it's like, no, it's a month and

1642
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 3: a half.

1643
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: Like that kind of about semantics who care, like it's

1644
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: not a crime.

1645
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 4: Well, now his girlfriend knows now, or his baby mama

1646
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 4: or whoever he's with knows, And honestly, I wouldn't care.

1647
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 4: If I were her, I'd be like I would just

1648
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 4: be like, why did you date a girl that also

1649
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 4: do this?

1650
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: With bachelor last year on the Bachelor. I remember the

1651
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 1: guy like told everyone like, just so I want to

1652
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: be transparent, I fucked everyone on this show, and the

1653
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: girl was like, I don't.

1654
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 3: Want to know that.

1655
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 4: I know I'm going to have people coming after me

1656
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 4: or like thinking that I'm just like anti woman, but

1657
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 4: I just think I'm I'm pro mental health. And I

1658
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 4: think this girl needs a better outlet than her Instagram

1659
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 4: stories to process all of this, and that I don't

1660
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 4: think her motive is to protect women and to educate

1661
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 4: women and to help girls that were in the same.

1662
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 3: Spot as she's with. Maybe she I think it's just

1663
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: to hurt the woman he's with. That's what I think

1664
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 3: she's trying to do because she's jealous, and that's.

1665
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: To be gentle with both of these people because everybody's hurting.

1666
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: And I was twenty and crazy before too, and I

1667
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: remember thinking like, if I found out someone cheated on

1668
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: someone I know, I would tell them because I would

1669
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: want to know. And then as I got older, I'm like,

1670
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: it's none of my business, Like I slowly learned things

1671
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: or not. Some things are my business and some things

1672
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: are not, And this whole thread felt like none of

1673
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: my business.

1674
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 3: And I went I'm glad we're on it.

1675
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 4: I love you guys. Thank you for listening to the

1676
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 4: podcast today. I hope you enjoyed yourselves. I'll see you

1677
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: on set Brian in just a second. And thank you

1678
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 4: Noah and Anya. Happy marriage, Anya, and we'll see you

1679
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 4: next week on the show. Dumbika and Dig Just uh,

1680
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 4: don't text girls that.

1681
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: You might think first guess we try here stuff. Okay,

1682
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 3: come on,