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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Union with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: in to this week's Ozone podcast, and I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to this week's guest. We talked last year, late in

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Speaker 1: the season, but different circumstances. We're doing over zoomed still

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Speaker 1: because of COVID and he really hadn't had a chance

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Speaker 1: to establish himself in the lineup yet. It's Jaguars second

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Speaker 1: year safety now, Andre Cisco, and Andre, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciate you. I'm glad to be here. So tell

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Speaker 1: me about the difference in you, Uh, just in terms

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Speaker 1: of known what the NFL's about. First year, second year.

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Speaker 1: How much more comfortable are you right now? Yeah? Like uh,

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Speaker 1: I would say like light light years ahead of where

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Speaker 1: I was a year ago in terms of mentality. Understand

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Speaker 1: what it takes to be part of the line up

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Speaker 1: each week is a big responsibility. I just understand your opponent.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta get really into it. You gotta have

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Speaker 1: intense focus all the time, and so learning what that's

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Speaker 1: like and how to not burn yourself out. But you know,

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Speaker 1: give it all. You got not to dig in too

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Speaker 1: much of last year, but first third team game didn't

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Speaker 1: play a whole lot. Looking back, did you learn anything

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Speaker 1: you know being on the bench. Uh, obviously you would

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Speaker 1: have liked to have played. Set you back, Where are

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Speaker 1: you in terms of that? You follow me a great question.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm getting? Yeah, Now, I learned a

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Speaker 1: ton last year just learning from Ray, Shawn and Dewey.

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Speaker 1: How they approach it is is very similar to how

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Speaker 1: I see myself doing it throughout my career. So able

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Speaker 1: to learn from those guys and watch some make mistakes

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Speaker 1: and correct and do those things and make plays on

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Speaker 1: the field. So it was it was an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: you know, to learn behind the scenes and not every

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Speaker 1: rookie's ready. Uh, and aspects. So I got to do

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Speaker 1: it a different way. And so I learned a ton

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Speaker 1: last year. I feel like it gave me a good

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Speaker 1: mindset going into O, T A. S. And I've been

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Speaker 1: able to carry it out. And you seem again I've

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Speaker 1: last year and a couple of times in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: but you seem like a confident guy, not necessarily cocky,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily gonna. I said on everybody's face. But you

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Speaker 1: walk with a confidence. Uh did you maintain that through

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Speaker 1: the rookie season? And where's your confidence now? I'll say

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Speaker 1: it's up and down through the rookie season. It's tough,

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Speaker 1: you know, being on the bench, like you said, Um,

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Speaker 1: and then also you know you're playing in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: so guys are better, so you're trying to make make

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Speaker 1: sure that you wanted them, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I had some lessons I had to learn and

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Speaker 1: I aspect and even this year, Um, it's been some

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Speaker 1: ups and downs. Uh, and that comes with the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta sometimes you gotta make place to

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Speaker 1: remember that you Um, you know you can make plays

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Speaker 1: like you get you know what I mean? So, uh,

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Speaker 1: for me, it's been up and down. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you want to stay as steady as possible, not

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Speaker 1: be too low to eye and that safety can be

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Speaker 1: a tough position to maintain confidence because every mistake is magnified,

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Speaker 1: right and that the right Now, where are you at

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Speaker 1: week ten compared to where you were a week one?

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Speaker 1: How much better are you? Where of you got developed? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a much much improved player. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: just mindset wise approach finishing these games. I think was

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing I need to learn just how long

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Speaker 1: they are, the intensity through every play, um and you

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Speaker 1: compared to week one off for like you know, like

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Speaker 1: a year ahead. Honestly, you said something interesting just then.

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Speaker 1: I think people often associate what's It's a big physical difference,

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Speaker 1: but I guess especially it's safety. You're out there seventy

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Speaker 1: make sure I'm accountable to the guys around me, all

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Speaker 1: my coaches and the really whole team, and you come

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Speaker 1: into the league known as an interception guy. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of I think it's a little bit of both. Um,

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Speaker 1: just developing as a player again, more comfortable in this league.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get more physical over time. That's that's your job. So, um,

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Speaker 1: just being able to assort myself in that way has

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Speaker 1: me throughout my especially my college career. But you know,

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Speaker 1: get interceptions. That's the reality of it. Sometimes some teams

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Speaker 1: that when I don't get an interception. It's not like

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Speaker 1: I'm not making an impact Jeff three this year, which

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Speaker 1: has to be something mentally that you do something with

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Speaker 1: the way you read quarterbacks. Why do you think that's

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Speaker 1: such a strength of yours? I think, Uh, if I

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Speaker 1: I just think it's very it's very natural for me

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Speaker 1: film the right way, watch footwork and just tendencies who

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Speaker 1: the ball now. And you have good hands for safety

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Speaker 1: as well. You'll remember this. Do you have any drops

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Speaker 1: Definitely worked on them. I would be honest. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: As the DV. We're not supposed to have great hands,

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Speaker 1: But it's funny when I mentioned that you knew exactly

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Speaker 1: how many. Oh yeah, you don't forget that. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: never gonna leave my mom. What tell me about this team?

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Speaker 1: A little bit? This year? UM struck me in the

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Speaker 1: think the confidence comes from within, Like it's not about

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Speaker 1: so much love and appreciation for each other that we

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Speaker 1: any moment. So we're not giving up on us, um,

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Speaker 1: I think just keeping it close, keeping it tight is

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Speaker 1: you came in when Doug Peterson in the off season

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Speaker 1: and I to you as players. Yeah, he's given us

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Speaker 1: I think it's a player's coach, and he definitely comes

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Speaker 1: us UM on several times, several occasions. Now I'm been

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Speaker 1: I'm as always curious as a player because it's it's

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Speaker 1: It was a bang bang play. A lot of controversy

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Speaker 1: over it, But I don't know what you would have

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Speaker 1: and I felt like it was it's never been a

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Speaker 1: thing for you in your career, has never been a

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Speaker 1: thing where you get a lot of that. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: guess it's something that you just have to as a

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Speaker 1: I have to play my game and I have to

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Speaker 1: do it the way I'm coached and the rules say

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Speaker 1: as best I can, right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's just not those those plays happen so fast that

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Speaker 1: Like but like I said, I'm not a head first hitter,

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Speaker 1: So it's not gonna be a term of terms of

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Speaker 1: you now. Story I've read and heard about you that

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by you played high school football and then

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed talking to you. I can't thank you

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Speaker 1: enough for doing this, look forward to doing it again,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bro,