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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten, touched up. All right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: Charger's Weekly and moving forward. The people demanded it. I

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Speaker 1: I am a I have no hubris, I am an

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Speaker 1: arrogant gentleman. And boy, it was a real It was

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Speaker 1: a real gut punch. I'm not gonna lie, Juliel. It

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Speaker 1: see nothing but Julil's amazing. You got to have him back.

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Speaker 1: He's the best. And I'm like, what about what about me?

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Speaker 1: What about what I'm doing here? Julil's watch is great,

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Speaker 1: Yours is a cassio. It was a humbling experience, Jualil,

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Speaker 1: but we we answered the people and we're stoked. You're

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Speaker 1: season and the people are going to benefit. So thank

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Speaker 1: you for for making time and for for doing Chargers

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Speaker 1: that's great analysis.

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Speaker 2: Now I appreciate the money. I'm excited to be back

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Speaker 2: home with you guys for the second episode. Just a

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Speaker 2: sign of money of the man Okay, don't let those

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Speaker 2: I just bring a little bit of flavor to it.

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Speaker 1: You're bringing more than flavor, Julil, You're bringing more than flavor.

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Speaker 1: and let's let's get after what we saw out there.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts and and I think it's interesting. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to kind of get your impressions of what it's like

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Speaker 1: I'll be damned if they didn't stick to it, you know,

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Speaker 1: because that did not happen in the past to be like, hey, herb,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what was very interesting, right, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: game is not working in the first half, and the

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Speaker 2: fact that the coaching staff stuck with it. That just

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Speaker 2: goes to show you the kind of identity that this organization,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, program wants to have. Right, it's being physical,

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Speaker 2: it's wearing you down for four quarters. And from my experience, money,

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Speaker 2: like when one side of the ball struggling, Hey, it's

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Speaker 2: a team sport, right. Week to week is going to

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Speaker 2: be different. One week it might be the offense that's struggling,

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Speaker 2: for four quarters. And you've seen that's what the Chargers did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, watching watching it back, I'll just you know, let's

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But let's start with joe Walt

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Speaker 1: because man, you go back and you watch that film

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Speaker 1: and holdly Kyle. He was thrown into the fire, and man,

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Speaker 1: He's able to walk through the fire. It was impressive.

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Speaker 2: Well, shout out to Joe Ortiz and Harball on that pick, right,

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Speaker 2: because everybody wanted to go receiver. Everybody wanted neighbors, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we look at the interior and look,

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Speaker 1: And credit to Herbert for protecting the ball and only

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you said, those guys are working with

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Speaker 2: that takes time. Right, you watch the film, you go

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff will work those same pressures, those same

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Speaker 2: I think they'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big hit by the way for Carolina. Since you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just unselfish, right, And that's what you love to

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Speaker 1: in the history of the league. But you've got Michael

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Speaker 1: Bernard Turner, you got Mike Tolbert Matthews, right like this,

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Speaker 1: the lineage of run backs on this team is such

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Speaker 1: that I'd love to see than that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Look, Austin Eckler led the league in touchdowns too straight,

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Speaker 1: you know, thirty six touchdowns in two years, right, So

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Speaker 1: I would love to see I would love to see

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Speaker 1: it put together with Dobbin. Sorry, let's flip to the

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Speaker 1: defensive side. And what an effort, man, right, what an effort?

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Speaker 1: Just up front, what Khalil Mack and Joey Boston. We

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Speaker 1: brought this up and I'm sure you you know it

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Speaker 1: we've said it a million times. When tu Ley, Joey

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Speaker 1: and Khalil were on the field. I went back and

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Speaker 1: watched all forty four snaps ten sacks. That's how dominant

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Speaker 1: they were. And man, you saw it, you say, and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see as they get more comfortable

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Speaker 1: with one another. DJ, who you know is on the

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Speaker 1: broadcast with me, called it the Ferrari package. When you

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Speaker 1: get tu Lee, Bud, Joey, and Khalil out there at

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Speaker 1: the same time, that's going to be fun to watch

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. But but just your

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Speaker 2: Jesse. Hats off to Jesse what he did the game plan.

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Speaker 2: When we talked on the podcast Money, we said there's

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Speaker 2: one guy that cannot wreck the game. It was Davante Adams,

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Speaker 2: number seventeen. So when the Chargers leave the game, win

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Speaker 2: or lose, they cannot say that one guy wrecked the game.

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Speaker 2: And that's what they did. They took him away. And

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Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to the DBS. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm a dB. Joey had a phenomenal game. Khalim Mack

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Speaker 2: had a phenomenal game. Ford had a phenomenal game on

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Speaker 2: the inside right Tito as well. But that secondary quietly

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Speaker 2: shut down the best receiver or one of the best

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Speaker 2: receivers in the league. And it wasn't a lot of

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Speaker 2: doubles Okay, So hats off to Christian Fulton, Sante Samuels

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Speaker 2: and all those guys in coverage, Durren James A Lohi

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Speaker 2: flying downhill, getting those guys lined up in the right calls.

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Speaker 2: But when they took Davante Adams out of the game,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't a lot of double covers from watching

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Speaker 2: the film and watching it live. So hats off to

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Speaker 2: the secondary and that's called secondary coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you outside of really just a couple

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Speaker 1: mistackles combined with a hurdle. You know, they they kept

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Speaker 1: everything in front of them. It's weird. You know. I

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Speaker 1: was on I like to engage with the people on

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Speaker 1: YouTube and I do. I do another show for for

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Speaker 1: Balleys with with Lorenzo Neil, and I mentioned I was

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Speaker 1: like defense dominated the first half, and someone came back

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Speaker 1: and said they didn't dominate. I was like seven points

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Speaker 1: three punts. Yeah, and I say, and then I kind

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Speaker 1: of went back and looked at it, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're they're looking at yardage. They're they're looking at oh,

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Speaker 1: you know here, they they they you know, they broke

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Speaker 1: out for six yards here and eleven yards here and

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Speaker 1: they converted this third down, and it's like, that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, offense, it's offense has it, but.

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Speaker 2: It's called ben don't break, right, It's the NFL. It's

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Speaker 2: the league. We're playing against one of the best wide

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Speaker 2: receivers in the game. Right, So they're gonna get yards.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be leaky yards, just gonna be misstackles week one.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be plays that, you know, team players, you're like,

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Speaker 2: these guys should have made. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, the defense kept this team in the game.

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Speaker 2: Point a period. Is how the defense played allowed them

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Speaker 2: to stay in the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And really I just I just point to one play,

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Speaker 1: fourth and one. Yeah, I think about what think about

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Speaker 1: what that one play did for the rest of the game.

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Speaker 1: How that set that because the and look, there is

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Speaker 1: another thing we have not talked about in a long while,

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Speaker 1: and that's you know, a really really good run defense.

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Speaker 1: And that run defense was stout and then allowed them

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Speaker 1: to keep the offense off schedule. Yeah, and so that

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Speaker 1: fourth and one poona breaks through and it's a loss

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Speaker 1: of two. And you cannot tell me that that did

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Speaker 1: not play into Antonio Pierce making the worst fourth down

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Speaker 1: decision that we've seen in the last five years, and

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Speaker 1: from it from the Chargers forty three on a fourth

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Speaker 1: and one or fourth and one and a half, whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. I mean, but that's that's his reality. He's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, they're getting push and I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like I'd rather rely on my defense, which I feel

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Speaker 1: better about than I do my And I think that's

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Speaker 1: what's not fair for AP is his defense was it

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Speaker 1: was working, and he knows the history of right.

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Speaker 2: That decision makes me wonder because your defense was playing well. Right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times coaches make that decision when they're like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, our defense can't stop a nosebleed right now,

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Speaker 2: we're better off just trying to keep the ball in

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Speaker 2: our possession, milk some time and bet on ourselfs on

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Speaker 2: the offensive side. But that game was stagnant. It was

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Speaker 2: neck and neck, right, it was going back and forth

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Speaker 2: the defensive battle. So that decision was really really interesting.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's I hate saying I think I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced. It's also because Cameron Dicker is so good.

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Speaker 1: That's why you give that guy twenty two million dollars. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because when he bangs that first fifty three yarder and

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Speaker 1: it looks like he's got ten yards to spare, and

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Speaker 1: it's got that perfect dicker draw right through the middle

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Speaker 1: of the uprights, he's saying, okay, forty three, we turn

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Speaker 1: it over. All they need is fifteen yards and it's

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Speaker 1: a two score game. And and that's where for people

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Speaker 1: that say, you know, the old Mike Dicka mid eighties,

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Speaker 1: I wish there were no kickers. I don't give a

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Speaker 1: damn about a kicker that those days are over. They

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Speaker 1: are over. Defens margins are small, yeah, and having what

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Speaker 1: I believe to be say I'm biased, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I believe him to be the best kicker in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think Cameron Dicker is that.

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Speaker 2: Street. His productivity shows it right, how consecutive kicks he's made,

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Speaker 2: how clutch he's been, He's the He is right now

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Speaker 2: the young best kicker in the league. Until he proves

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Speaker 2: this wrong. Knock on wood and he keeps doing this thing,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to scream at weekend and week out.

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Speaker 2: He's an offensive weapon. Okay. The offense knows when they

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Speaker 2: get past the fifty and they get to a certain

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Speaker 2: part of that field, The offensive coordinator can pretty much

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Speaker 2: call what he wants to because he knows he has

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Speaker 2: three three in the bag. Excuse me, right, he knows

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Speaker 2: he has three points. So when you have a kicker

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Speaker 2: like Dicker, the offensive coordinator is allowed to call his

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Speaker 2: plays very, very freely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And I think the other thing that

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Speaker 1: goes with it is you've got sort of this. You

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Speaker 1: always hear the term complimentary football, and I think when

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Speaker 1: people hear complimentary football, they always think of points and

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Speaker 1: how we're going to score points. And it goes the

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Speaker 1: other way too. Defense was dominating. They have one of

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Speaker 1: the best punters in the league in JK. Scott, where

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Speaker 1: you can play the field position game, and they've got

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Speaker 1: Cameron Dicker. So for all the people that were freaking out,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at my Twitter feed and people are

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Speaker 1: Greg Roman's terrible, this offense sucks, You've got to take

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Speaker 1: this is you should have never done this with Herbert.

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Speaker 1: That's complimentary football. Our defense is dominating. JK. Scott can

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Speaker 1: punt the hell out of the ball and Cameron Dicker

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Speaker 1: can boot fifty eight yard field goals, So why am

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Speaker 1: I going to put the ball in Harm's way. When

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Speaker 1: the receivers and Herbert looked like they were sort of

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Speaker 1: struggling to get on the same page early, there wasn't

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Speaker 1: a lot of separation there. That's fine, is okay, Let's

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Speaker 1: play the field position battle, see if we can pop

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Speaker 1: a return, get a play here or there, and like

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Speaker 1: you said, get three. Three is fine. Three is totally fine.

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Speaker 1: And that's I think that's what people sometimes forget. They

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Speaker 1: want to see touchdowns, they want to see explosive vertical

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Speaker 1: passing game. But when the game is being played the

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Speaker 1: way it was and the defense was as dominant as

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Speaker 1: it was, that's that's why you call the game that way.

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Speaker 1: And that's why that game looks that way, because the

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Speaker 1: Chargers defense was the best unit on the field of

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Speaker 1: any of the six units. Far and away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to talk about the old pages,

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Speaker 2: but when you look at the pages, they played stingy defense, right,

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Speaker 2: and they handed the ball off and Tom did his

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Speaker 2: thing when it was time to do his thing. But

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Speaker 2: who did they have a kicker? Adam Vinieri and that

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Speaker 2: guy won them a lot of games, right. They played

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Speaker 2: really good stingy defense, They played really good special teams,

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Speaker 2: and obviously they had to go that quarterback who could

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Speaker 2: distribute the ball at receivers, who people would even call

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Speaker 2: number one. Right, So it's almost like the same formula

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Speaker 2: right now that the Chargers have right, really good special teams,

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Speaker 2: really good defense. They can run the ball. We have

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Speaker 2: a gunslinger at quarterback, and we're still searching to see

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Speaker 2: who are number one is. But with Herbert behind center,

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Speaker 2: he can throw those guys open. And those guys have

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Speaker 2: enough talent with schematics, with stacks, with bunches that they

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Speaker 2: can create separation.

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Speaker 1: So it's funny. As you were talking, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get into this because this to me, Oh shoot, I

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Speaker 1: can't do it. Darn it, hold on, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Can I get it? Yes? I can?

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Speaker 2: You got you got here.

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Speaker 1: Here's JJ McCarthy's here's JJ McCarthy's game log from the

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Speaker 1: National Championship season. Here are his last one, two, three

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Speaker 1: four games as they close with Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: and Iowa in the Big Ten Championship and then play

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Speaker 1: Washington in the National Championship game. He passed four against

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Speaker 1: Penn State sixty yards. He passed for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty one yards against Maryland, one hundred and forty eight

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Speaker 1: yards against Ohio State, one hundred and forty seven yards

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Speaker 1: against Iowa, and one hundred and forty yards against Washington.

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Speaker 1: And they won every one of those games.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think no one's going to complain about

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Speaker 2: winning the National Championship or a Super Bowl if the

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Speaker 2: quarterback only passes for one hundred and forty yards.

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Speaker 1: You hear me money, Yeah, And I think, like, and

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Speaker 1: what all the incoming that he took going into the draft?

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Speaker 1: You know, Harbaugh said something that I'll never forget and

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Speaker 1: it stuck with me. On that third and six when

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Speaker 1: Herbert completed that pass to Lad McConkey, he said, JJ

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Speaker 1: is an incredible quarterback. He's going to be a star

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. When the play demands it, he rises

639
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: to the challenge. And he said, we didn't ask JJ

640
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: to do everything. What we asked him to do was

641
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: win us a game when he needed to. And that's

642
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: what he did against Alabama. Remember, hey, JJ, Okay, now

643
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: you got to go win it. And for Herbert, everyone's like,

644
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: are they just gonna run the ball and run an

645
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: extra forty seconds off the clock, kick the field goal?

646
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, Herb, you want to go win

647
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: the game for us? Go on, go go, because and

648
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: that's I think it's something that people have to kind

649
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: of get their head around that they want to save

650
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: Justin for because the Alabama game two twenty one and

651
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, right for JJ McCarthy, because they and like.

652
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: There's gonna be games like that money, But there's gonna

653
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: be games where Justin has to win the game, right,

654
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: he has to throw three fifty has throw for four hundred.

655
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: But let's not take away the fact that the Chargers

656
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: won a division game Week one against a tough rival, right, Like,

657
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: Justin can go throw for three fifty three three touchdowns

658
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: and I've seen it and the Chargers lost. Right, So

659
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: you got to pick and choose what you want, Right,

660
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: do you want a good game plan in the w

661
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: or do you want Justin to throw these star studded

662
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl all Pro type numbers, which he will get

663
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: because he is who he is. Right, It's a long season.

664
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: Every game won't go like this last game win. There's

665
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: gonna be games where you know, the defense might be

666
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: struggling and it's an air it's an aired out game,

667
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: and Justin has to come through. Every driver put points

668
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: on the board, right, So the fans, we gotta be patient,

669
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: we gotta be patient. When's your key? Right now? When's

670
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: your key?

671
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: And there's something to be said about putting stuff on

672
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: film and just putting on film all these looks and

673
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: all these runs and the next thing you know, it's

674
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: play action. Your guy's got one on one and he's gone,

675
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: and and you got the Chiefs coming to town week four.

676
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: So you're probably gonna need to score some points in

677
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: that game. It's very likely you're gonna need some points

678
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: and youna need some Herbert, you need some merry yards,

679
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna need some passing touchdowns in that game. So

680
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: let's that's perfect opportunity for us to flip to the Panthers.

681
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: It was a hard watch, it was. It was the

682
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: game got away so quickly that it was just kind

683
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: of hard to get four quarters of this team is

684
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: and what they really want to do because of how

685
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: quis thirty three seventeen nothing in the blink of an eye,

686
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: first drop back for Bryce Young is an interception. Then

687
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: we get a fumble seventy to three with out eight

688
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: minutes into the game. It's thirty or seventeen nothing, then

689
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: it's thirty to three in the first half. So it's

690
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: always hard to try to figure out what a team

691
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: is when things go that sideways. But I will say, Julia,

692
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: the first thing that jumped off and going back and

693
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: watching every rep in the game was defense struggled mightily

694
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: last year against the run, and man did they struggle

695
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: against the run again. That Saints front got all the

696
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: push and opened all the holes that they wanted against

697
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: the Panthers in that contest. And you know, we know

698
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: what this team wants to do, so it leads me

699
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: to think that that's what they're probably gonna try to

700
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: do going in.

701
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a copycat league. When I say that money,

702
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna watch the film what happened last week I

703
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: gainst the Saints, and they're gonna say, this is the

704
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: plays that worked, and these are the plays that didn't.

705
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: Then they're going to implement those plays and put a

706
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: little twist to their own to try to make it

707
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: look similar. So you're gonna see they struggle on the run. Listen,

708
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: charge the nation. We're gonna see them run the ball again.

709
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: Hardball is going to run the ball again. But at

710
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: the same time money As a player, you can never

711
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: let your last win or loss beat you the following week, right,

712
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: even though these guys, you know, just be quite honest,

713
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: it didn't look good on film. Offense, defense, on special

714
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: teams for the Carolina Panthers look ugly, right, But the

715
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: Chargers can't just roll the ball out there. But like

716
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: you know, where the Chargers were coming to town, big

717
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: win off the Raiders in an easy dump, right, these

718
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: guys have to put the work in which I know

719
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: they will Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, get on that plane with

720
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: the business like mentality and go take care of business

721
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: because like me and you both know they should go

722
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: down there to Carolina take care of business.

723
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: Dude, you know I can say it's not you can

724
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: just you're in the media, not a player anymore. But

725
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: do you know for us, it's like, hey Man, Steeler's

726
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: coming up week. Boy, would it be great to jump

727
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: these Panthers and get these guys fifteen minutes of rest

728
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: and be able to just chill out in the fourth

729
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: quarter and not have to have Bosa and Mac and

730
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: all those guys out there. It'd be do Is that

731
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: something that players or coaches would ever say, would you

732
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: ever kind of work through, Hey, guys, let's freaking jump

733
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: this team and let's get up big so we can

734
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: get you some rest because we know it is going

735
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: to be a street fight in week three in Pittsburgh.

736
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: We know how that team plays. Let's see if we

737
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: can be the team that ends up getting a little

738
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: bit of an extra rest, you know, the mini mini

739
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: mini buy of a quarter so we can save some

740
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: of those hits for next week. Does that ever get discussed?

741
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: Uh? Not really money, because then you're looking forward, right,

742
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: you're looking past the panthers. It's thought. Obviously we're all human,

743
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: and that thought is in your head and you're like, Okay,

744
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 2: who do we have after the Panthers? But I don't

745
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: think it's ever spoken on. It hasn't been spoken to

746
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: me or in any locker room that I've been in, that, Hey,

747
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: after this week, we have so and so, so let's

748
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: make sure that we put them to bed so we

749
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: can rest up and get you guys going for the

750
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: following week. Right, Because as a coach, you got to think.

751
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: As a coach, you never want to put that mentality

752
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: into your player's head because you're ultimately telling them this

753
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: team is lesser, right, this team is less than excuse me,

754
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: And that's what you never want them to go into

755
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: the game thinking obviously they know that the team has struggled.

756
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: Carolina has struggled tremendously in week one, even dating back

757
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: to last year if you watch their film, But they're

758
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: going in here to put them to sleep, night night,

759
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: night night. Money. No, we're not going in there. We're

760
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: not going in there thinking about getting it early. We're

761
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: thinking about going to play for four quarters and dominating

762
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: for all four quarters. Now, if we get to the

763
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: fourth and things looking up and there's a lot of

764
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: wiggle room, then of course that conversation becomes a real conversation.

765
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: But going into them to that game that week, this week,

766
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: that's not being.

767
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Said, Hey, so here's here's a good one. I guess

768
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of fun. So let's say

769
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: you're let's say you're I don't know, uh, you're Bud Dupree,

770
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: You're you're Joey Bosa, and you're just wrecking shop, you know.

771
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, going back and watching the the

772
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: front wasn't bad against Bryce Young, especially the interior interior

773
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: was stout. It was really a Quantu was the one

774
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: that was struggling a lot, and Chase Young was getting

775
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: after it. So if you're boasting, you got two sacks,

776
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: are you like, would you rather get the fourth quarter rest?

777
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: You're like, you know what, just stay out there, maybe

778
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: get a couple more.

779
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Khalil and I got two sacks going into the fourth

780
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 2: and it's like six minutes left. I'm like, coach pulled

781
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: me out. I'm ready to chill. I've done my work.

782
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: I've done my work right, I've done my work.

783
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: So you'd rather have the rest.

784
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: If those guys dominate early and that fourth quarter comes

785
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: and that that spread is healthy, you should see those

786
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: guys pulled and letting bud dupree and and totally get

787
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: some action.

788
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say, you know, for all of like you said,

789
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: it's one week and it was ugly and Bryce Young,

790
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, he was susceptible, susceptible to pressure. Yeah, they blitzed,

791
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: and whenever they blitzed, it was ugly. It was a sack.

792
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: It was a it was an eran throw that the

793
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: two interceptions were just bad. The pocket held up and

794
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: he sailed one right to the safety and the first

795
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: pass of the game. He just missed his guy was weird.

796
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: And I say it all the time, you know, like

797
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I've you know, my kids went to Modern Day. So

798
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: I watched Bryce Young in high school and I watched

799
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: him dominate and and it's one of the best, if

800
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: not the best high school quarterback I have ever watched

801
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: play because you know, the year before they won the

802
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: national championship with JT. Daniels and I was like, wow,

803
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: that was like watching you know, like a D two

804
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: college team in high school. And then Bryce came in

805
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh man, this totally different level.

806
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: And it's weird for me because that's what he was

807
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: always good at. He always made the right play, He

808
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: always made the right throw. We threw with anticipation. He

809
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: was incredibly accurate. So I know that's in there, and

810
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: it's something that you know, not to name drop, but

811
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: I remember we were talking to our radio station does

812
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, and we were talking to Don matting Lee,

813
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what player he was talking about,

814
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: but he was like, hey, look man, I got a

815
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: season of him hitting three fifteen and twenty two homers.

816
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: It's in there, So I know what's in there, s

817
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: I's got to figure out why it's not here, but

818
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: it was there. And I think that's the case with Bryce.

819
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to write him off yet. After one

820
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: week they brought in Deontay Johnson, who I think is

821
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: a really good player. I think, you know, I don't

822
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: know where Adam Feeling is in his career right now.

823
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: I think that Jonathan Mingo has been a bit of

824
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: a disappointment.

825
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: Have some threat on it.

826
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're but their tight ends are good. Like

827
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I like Chewba Hubbard, I like Miles Sanders. Like they've

828
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: got and like we said, the interior of that line

829
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: is good. That that Austin Corbett, Robert Hunt, you know,

830
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: Damien Lewis. That trio is solid. So it's it's not

831
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be I don't think you can

832
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: go in thinking, oh, yeah, they really have them over matched.

833
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case.

834
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: Right, And that's what I kept saying money. It's like,

835
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: you can't just roll the ball out there and be like,

836
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: you know what, because they played horrible last week and

837
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: they had a bad season last year, that hey, we're

838
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: just gonna go in there and they're gonna lay down

839
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: like this is the National Football League, like the highest

840
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: competitors in the world at the end of the day,

841
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: and it's week one, right, you don't. As a former player,

842
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 2: I've went into many games. There's been games that we've

843
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: lost by three in week one, and I've been a

844
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: part of a team where we lost by a lot

845
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: in the week one. And I'm gonna tell you right now,

846
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: your mentality doesn't go to, oh man, we suck. Oh man,

847
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a long season. It's one week, right,

848
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: It's one week and it's what it is. You have

849
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: to look at the film, take the criticism, the constructive

850
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: criticism from your coaches, and get better as a player,

851
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: get better as a professional. So, like you said, their

852
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: roster has guys who are very, very capable of making plays.

853
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: So the Chargers can't go in this. But I don't

854
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: think so. Being there in the in the training camp,

855
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: part of this coaching staff, being around these group of guys,

856
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: how Harbor has them wired. I don't see them going

857
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: in there taking this team uh lightly at all.

858
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, we talked about separation for you know,

859
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: for these corners, and jac Horn's good cornerback now he is.

860
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: He's a darn good cornerback. He just has not been

861
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: able to stay healthy. They brought in Troy Hill as

862
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: a nickelback, like they got good. Second, they brought in

863
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, a safety like back into that defense pretty good,

864
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: and we saw those receivers struggle to separate in the

865
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: game against the Raiders. Also good secondary, you know, I

866
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: like what they have in their secondary as well. But

867
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: like it's you look on that side of the ball

868
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: and it's it's a huge break. And it sucks for

869
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Derek Brown that he got hurt in Week one because

870
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: he's a great player, But that's a big help. That's

871
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: a big benefit for this team to not have him

872
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: in the middle of that line getting after it. But again,

873
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: I think I look on that side of the ball

874
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, that it goes back to the run.

875
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: This team has got to figure out how to stop

876
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: the run, and they couldn't do it last year. They

877
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: couldn't do it against the Saints, which is why it's

878
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: I kind of I don't know, I don't know what

879
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: else to share. Maybe you have some other things of

880
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: what you think you're gonna see, but to me, I

881
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: just feel like they're gonna run the heck out of

882
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: the ball and see if they can get one hundred

883
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: and eighty yards on the ground like the Saints did last.

884
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: Week money the Chargers ran the heck out of the

885
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: ball for four quarters when they couldn't barely run it

886
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: for two quarters. Yeah. Right, So let's be real, let's

887
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: just be honest. They're gonna go into this game and

888
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: be like, the weakness of this team is stopping the run.

889
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna see on Sunday. Now, if

890
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: they crowd the box with single high safety and it's

891
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: an eight man front, Like, I don't think we're gonna

892
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: waiver from the run. I don't. I think we're still

893
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: gonna ground and pound beat them down. And when you

894
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: go on the road, there's three things you need to pack.

895
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Your run game, your defense, and your special teams. Right,

896
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: your run game takes the crowd out of the game,

897
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: takes the momentium out of the game. Your defense has

898
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: to play stingy in a hostile environment, and your special

899
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: teams needs to come through and give you points. And

900
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: it's a field position battle when you're away. Right, My

901
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: coach always said those are the three things you need

902
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: to pack in your suitcase when you go on the road.

903
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: And that's what the Chargers are gonna have to do.

904
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to play stingy defense right get after

905
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Bryce blitz him, Show different pressures, show double eight gaps,

906
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: drop out, give a man looks, play zone behind it.

907
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: Running game. You're gonna have to run the ball. They

908
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: haven't stopped the run. They have to prove it to

909
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: me that they can stop it. And when they do,

910
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: that opens up the passing game. So Justin Herbert will

911
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: get hit, So before the fans jump in my comments

912
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: and attack me, yes, Justin Herbert will get his on Sunday.

913
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: And obviously the special teams we'll do other thing as well.

914
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: So when you mentioned that it's wild, I'll pull up

915
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: the numbers, the pressure numbers. I went through them and

916
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: I was like, this is here, it is. This is

917
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: jesse Mentor defense. The pressures for the game for the Chargers.

918
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: Five Khalil Mack three, Joey Bosa, I got to a piece,

919
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: Bud Dupree, Pooniford, Tito, Matt Locke, Dayan Henley with two

920
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: and then with one Morgan Fox to her Tart Junior Colson,

921
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: John Taylor.

922
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: You didn't You didn't even mention Derwin, James or Tooley

923
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: right there? How about that?

924
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: Right? Like you don't know where it's coming from. You

925
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: don't you think it's coming from Durwin. But it's not.

926
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: It's coming from day on. It's coming from John Taylor.

927
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what's so wild about what he puts

928
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: together is you have no idea where he's gonna send

929
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: it from. There's six on the line, and like you said,

930
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: double a gap and then maybe they both drop out,

931
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: maybe they both come, maybe one of them comes. One

932
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: does it. It's so wild to watch how he comes

933
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: up with it and how the players they're just they're

934
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: on top run it. They are all connected.

935
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a chess match. And that's what you see

936
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: Jesse Minner playing right now is playing a chess match.

937
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: A lot officer coordinators are playing checkers. He's playing chess.

938
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: He's one step ahead of them. Even in the game

939
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: on Sunday last week for all the more, I think

940
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: it was a third down, right, it was a third

941
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: down or fourth down, excuse me if from wrong, But

942
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: he sent cover zero pressure right. They didn't hide it

943
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: they all lined up on the line. There was motion. Alo.

944
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: He looked at Durwin and communicated like, hey, we're working

945
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: together on the three and two man combination. And if

946
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: Mitchell's looking, if he's looking at the safety, the safety

947
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: right now is telling them it's cover zero. Motion comes

948
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: over Alo. He looks at Durwin and is communicating the

949
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: exchange possibly and they're all lined up double a gap

950
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: everyone on the line of scrimmage. Lo and behold he

951
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: snapped the ball. It was cover zero. I caught it

952
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: out and they got the pressures that they wanted. So

953
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: Jesse Minner has a bag of tricks up his sleeve.

954
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: And the crazy thing about it is a lot of

955
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: time with their pressures, a lot of time with their stunts.

956
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: Everything's going on, but the DB's have his own eyes

957
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: behind him. Other than that play.

958
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: That I just described, Yeah, it was fun to watch.

959
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to watch again. I'll wrap it with this, Julie.

960
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: Now you're in a different point of your life. You

961
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: got little ones and you know you're you're with them

962
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: all the time, and it's wonderful. But I don't know

963
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: how old your kids were when you were still in

964
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: the league. But how would you feel about hitting the

965
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: road for nine days about you know, going east? You

966
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: got back to back ten AM Pacific games, and coach

967
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: Charbas decided, why am I going to be in the

968
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: air for you know, twenty hours or however many about

969
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: twenty hours and lose all that time and then I've

970
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: got to reacclimate to the Eastern time zone. Your idea

971
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: that that, well, I'm gonna be part of it. I'm

972
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna be out there for I don't know if you are.

973
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out there for nine days. Your idea

974
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: of you know, kind of what what Harbaugh wants to do.

975
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: And he's staying in Charlotte. They're gonna they're gonna work

976
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: out at UNC Charlotte and then pop up to Pittsburgh

977
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday.

978
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when I was playing, both my boys were born.

979
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: Obviously I love being around them, so it would be tough.

980
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: But hey, I'm going to tell them. You like, you

981
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: like nice things, right? You like big gifts underath the

982
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: tree for Christmas? Don't you? You want the scooter and

983
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: that kind of bike. So Dad has to go to

984
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: work and I gotta make some money so I can

985
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: provide that. But I like the idea being a player. Man, listen,

986
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: money flying to the East Coast. Those flights suck, bro Like, Yeah,

987
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't understand. When you get on

988
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: the airplane for that long, your body dehydrates, right, so

989
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: you have to continue to flush fluids. You're up using

990
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: a restaurant on the fly. You can't really sleep. You know,

991
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: the altitude you have, your jet lagged and the time zone, right,

992
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: the time zones are different, So I think it's smart

993
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: staying af there. Obviously it's nine days you won't have

994
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: like you're obviously your bed to sleep in or your

995
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: your body where people routine that you go through throughout

996
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: the week. But I'm pretty sure those guys will fly,

997
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: those guys out get the body work, be able to come.

998
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: The charge will accommodate them some kind of way to

999
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: make sure they're taking care of their bodies, and I

1000
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: think they'll be fine. I think it's actually a good, good,

1001
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: good decision on Jim Harball's plate to keep those guys

1002
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: out there so they're not flying back and forth with

1003
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: that wear and tear on their body.

1004
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you know, I don't think people

1005
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: realize and for me, it's not that big of a deal.

1006
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: I get up early every morning anyway. But when we're

1007
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: on the East coast, like, I don't think people realize.

1008
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah they kick off at ten Pacific and you're like, oh, whatever,

1009
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: it's ten am. Yeah, no, you when you have to

1010
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: be downstairs, when you're in meal, when you have to

1011
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: get on the bus to get there, Like essentially I

1012
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: have to be up and ready to go at what

1013
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: is for the most part, five thirty six am Pacific.

1014
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: About five thirty Pacific is when that meal room is

1015
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: packed yeap with players and stuff. That bus is getting

1016
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: boarded by like six thirty seven o'clock our time, and

1017
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: it's it's it's weird, Like it's just it really can

1018
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: throw you off. It's why they make such a big

1019
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: deal about teams from the West time zone having to

1020
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: deal with it.

1021
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. Like being a player, there'd be games

1022
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: where you know, it's the fourth quarter, the first excuse me,

1023
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: the first quarter, and we're in the huddle like, guys,

1024
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: we need to get going, like we got it. We

1025
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: gotta right this up right, and naturally your body's on

1026
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: you're playing a one o'clock game. But back home it's

1027
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: ten o'clock or you woke up back home in terms

1028
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: at seven six thirty, like you said, I know me,

1029
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: I'm getting to the stadium three hours before the game, right,

1030
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: So that means I have to be up at least

1031
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: an hour and a half before get ready. I go

1032
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: over my notes, taking the shower, I'm going downstairs, I'm

1033
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: getting I'm putting my my fresh suit on. Right. So like,

1034
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: it takes time. So a lot of times you would

1035
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: see the Chargers go out and play East or play

1036
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Way in the South, and You're like, why are they

1037
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: starting so slow? It's because of the time different. So

1038
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 2: the fact that Jim is doing that, I think it's

1039
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: gonna pay off.

1040
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say this, and I kudos to you, Julio

1041
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: for wearing the suit for your you know, for your

1042
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: arrival when you're on the road man East Coast games,

1043
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: no chance showing up with your badhead sweatsuit.

1044
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: And I am like, whatever, the team issue jumpsuit.

1045
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Exactly right. I still got four of them. Just rotate those,

1046
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: rotate those. This was fun. This was a lot of fun,

1047
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to doing it all season and

1048
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to discuss and another win with you

1049
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: from from Charlotte. Uh, you know, I'll be doing it

1050
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: from the team hotel from Charlotte next week and then

1051
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: we'll make our way up to Pittsburgh. And it's a

1052
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity for these guys to tell, oh,

1053
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll finish with this, you have finished

1054
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: with something a little fun. Because coach said it, He's like, hey,

1055
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, because you don't hear it. And I'm an

1056
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: old man. You're a lot younger than I am. But

1057
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: I love board games. I love them. We got a

1058
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: ton of them here at the house. We love playing them. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And coaches like, yeah, you know, yeah, bring the board

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Speaker 1: games you get with the guys. And and as someone

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Speaker 1: asked him, you know what your favorite board game? So

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you do you guys? You got you like

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Speaker 1: you said, two little boys. Do you guys play board games

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Speaker 1: at all? Do you? I'm sure you played them growing up?

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Speaker 1: Favorite Jalila Die board game?

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Speaker 2: My favorite My favorite board game would have to be Monopoly.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I'm always interested in that game

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Speaker 2: because now that I'm in real estate, it's like real

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Speaker 2: life Monopoly. Yeah, so that'd be my favorite one, obviously,

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Speaker 2: playing checkers growing up. I never really got with chest. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: my kids don't really do much board games. Those kids

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Speaker 2: are so active. They want to be outside and play sports.

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Speaker 2: They're playing three different sports, and whenever it's time to relax,

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Speaker 2: they want to play the PS five or watch dad

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Speaker 2: on YouTube. And I'm like, there you go, Dad seen

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Speaker 2: this video like ten times already, kids, Dad, look you

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Speaker 2: Daddy's seen this video. That's Daddy's son. So man, it

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Speaker 2: is awesome. Man. The kids are great, the wife's great,

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Speaker 2: and life going good. Man.

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Speaker 1: See that's the that's that's the kids being blessed to

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Speaker 1: grow up in San Diego and Carlsbad. You know when

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Speaker 1: you when you're Jim Harbaugh and you grow up in

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Speaker 1: in western Kentucky and Michigan, and you know, I grew

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Speaker 1: moved out here. Board games, Man, it's too cold. It's

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Speaker 1: it's winter.

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Speaker 2: You're snowed in.

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Speaker 1: You're snowed in exactly, You're snowed in and uh and

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Speaker 1: board games are a way to pass the time. So

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Speaker 1: I think we're bringing a I think Shannon's bringing a

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Speaker 1: travel scrabble, so we'll have a board game.

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Speaker 2: All right, at least one. Let me know how goes man.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, Julia, I look forward to talking you next week.

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