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Speaker 1: Welcome into the NFL Report. James Palmer with you, and

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Speaker 1: look who it is. It's Jane Slater filling in for

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Speaker 1: Steve Wych on this Thursday edition. Thursdays are always great, Jane.

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Speaker 1: You picked a perfect day to come in here and

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Speaker 1: sell that.

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Speaker 2: For Steve whtch.

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Speaker 3: Well, this has been one of my favorite shows on

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Speaker 3: our platforms that we've rolled out. It really allows us

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Speaker 3: to sort of deep dive and open up our notebook

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Speaker 3: because you know, this James is someone who's out in

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Speaker 3: the field. We get so much information and only so

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Speaker 3: much time in the course of a show, so so

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Speaker 3: much to talk about, particularly when you consider the fact

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Speaker 3: that we're already almost through a quarter of the football season.

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Speaker 4: Find that hard to believe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big time.

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Speaker 1: And if I got some baggy eyes and you're watching this,

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Speaker 1: I was up late at Red Rocks watching Burt Kreischer

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Speaker 1: just dominate two hours plus of comedy. He was just like,

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Speaker 1: I'm empting the notebook. I'm at Red Rocks, baby, this

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Speaker 1: is the greatest venue in America. I'm going to go forever.

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Speaker 1: And he did go forever, thankfully. My sister in law

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Speaker 1: was watching our son Nixon for an extended period of

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Speaker 1: time as we rolled in well after midnight, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonna power through because I'm dynamite.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for this show.

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Speaker 1: We got Pep Hamilton Jane, who's been an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach in this league for a long long time.

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Speaker 1: He has an unbelievable take on the evolution of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position in this league over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Baldy joins us like he does every Thursday. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Judy Batista talking about the Dathaniel Hackett Bowl between

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Speaker 1: the Jets and the Broncos. Mj Acosta Rowez is gonna

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Speaker 1: join us as well, talk some international games. But let's

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Speaker 1: get to the big one. This is a playoff game

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Speaker 1: in Week five, Jane. That doesn't happen very often between

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: We know the history these two teams have.

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Speaker 1: When I say a playoff game in week five, it's

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Speaker 1: a measuring stick game in the eyes of the man himself,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 5: They are right now probably the most likely team to

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Speaker 5: go in Super Bowl, but in order for them to

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Speaker 5: get there, they've got to go by us, hopefully two times.

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Speaker 5: If that's the way it falls in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 5: we're in the playoffs. But the bottom line is that

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Speaker 5: you're playing the best. This is certainly you don't need

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Speaker 5: the game to tell you that you're playing the best,

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Speaker 5: but you need the game to show you how you

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Speaker 5: stack up against the best.

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Speaker 4: James, you know, it's fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Listen and Jerry Jones there, you know, we look at

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Speaker 3: the We look at the forty nine ers as the

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Speaker 3: better team just because of what we've seen in the postseason,

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Speaker 3: right and their four and zero record. I would argue

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Speaker 3: if the Cowboys had won that Cardinals game in more

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Speaker 3: of a decisive faction, we might have a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a different conversation about the Cowboys this week. But

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Speaker 3: when you look at this team on paper, James, these

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Speaker 3: are very similar teams.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 3: I was actually shocked by this, And this is how

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Speaker 3: my offic you get when you're covering teams. You know this,

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Speaker 4: This game allowed Cowboys ten point three.

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Speaker 3: You've got the forty nine ers fourteen point five, you know,

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Speaker 4: But I don't know about you, James.

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Speaker 3: I cover this Cowboys team and I just don't Maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't respect the.

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Speaker 3: When I look at some of their offensive weapons and

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's truly in the league of his own.

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts there?

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Speaker 3: Again, you would think me covering this team, I would

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Speaker 3: have a different perspective. But maybe it's just from watching

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Speaker 3: slight edge goes to the forty nine ers right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll start with the forty nine ers, Jane, and

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Speaker 1: I really look at Brock Purty. Obviously, the way he's

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Speaker 1: Weapons he had when they were able to come out

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Speaker 1: And you can be that dominant as an offense. I

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Speaker 1: Though we've seen Christian McCaffrey put himself in the MVP

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Speaker 2: What did they do?

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Speaker 1: They stuck with it, Jane in the second half, and

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Speaker 1: I think they ran the ball for eighty plus yards

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Speaker 2: That's what they wanted to do, right. They wanted to

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Speaker 1: That pass rush that Dallas has and kind of negate

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Speaker 1: it by running the football well, and they stuck with

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Speaker 1: I think the cat and mouse chess game that goes

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Speaker 1: be one that just we all should get the popcorn

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Speaker 1: And we saw that Kyle Shanahan's second half adjustments actually

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in this one on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: You know, James, when you talk about some of those

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. Well, the way you contain him is likely

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Speaker 3: you're getting him at that second level. You know, obviously

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know if I've still got a

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Speaker 1: And to me, Jane, I think that's really falling on

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Speaker 1: the shoulders of one person and I think it's Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I think we know both these defenses are two of

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Speaker 1: going into this game we talk so much about Dan

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Speaker 1: Javon Hargraves, who's been tremendous on the inside part of that,

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Speaker 1: I think on Dak Prescott's shoulders, does he protect the

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Speaker 1: think if they lose the turnover battle, it could be difficult.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into the red.

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Speaker 1: Zone issues that they've had coming up a little bit

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Speaker 1: And I just think Dak Prescott has to finish games strong.

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Speaker 1: You look at the way both of these games ended

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Speaker 1: the last two years, it ended the Cowboys season. Two

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Speaker 1: two years. Let's move on to if you remember Jane

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Speaker 1: in the end of Saving Private Ryan, when Tom Hanks

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Speaker 2: That's reinforcements right there coming in.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams after Week four, coming off

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Speaker 1: of r and because of suspension, teams are getting reinforcements.

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Speaker 1: The number one guy we're looking at is Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Potentially could play this Sunday. But let's look at it

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Speaker 1: on a bigger scale because Jonathan Taylor, everything that's surrounded this,

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Speaker 1: getting a sense of where Jonathan Taylor is mentally.

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Speaker 6: Listen to this, Oh listen, Like I said, I'm here

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Speaker 6: right now and my number one thing is to take

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Speaker 6: what I want. What I want doesn't matter what necessarily

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Speaker 6: I want. What matters is what this team needs, with

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Speaker 6: And while I'm here, that's what I'm gonna work my

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Speaker 6: off to get the opportunity to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the coaching job, Jane, that Shane Stekins

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Speaker 1: has done so far.

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Speaker 2: This sea unbelievable, right, it.

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Speaker 3: Is unbelievable, And you have to ask yourself for Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 4: He says he's doing it for his teams.

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Speaker 3: Was he doing it to put enough of a resume

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Speaker 3: together that maybe the Colts find themselves trading him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Zack Moss has done a really nice job for them

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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis. But I can only imagine that he would

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Speaker 3: help a guy like Zack Moss, a guy like Anthony

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Speaker 3: get him mentally to check back in physically, he's good

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Speaker 3: I can only imagine what he is going to add.

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Speaker 1: I look at this, Jane, and I go, all right,

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Speaker 1: You could say it's Jared Goff and go, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: You can't load the boss when you've got those two

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Speaker 4: So this to me is just added value, not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, Jane.

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Speaker 1: I think this is finally for the Buffalo Bills in

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Speaker 1: And you can maybe have the luxury if you're bringing

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Speaker 2: I'm fine being patient.

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Speaker 1: But this is a great reinforcement for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: And credit to them the fact that you've had Greg

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Speaker 3: Got some really great sounds from Sean McVay James. You know,

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Speaker 2: He's going to go through practice today. We're going to

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, so I just read as like

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Speaker 4: The damn injury report.

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Speaker 5: So he's going through a normal practice.

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Speaker 7: You know, we'll see how he's feeling, and you know

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Speaker 1: You look at this, Jane, and I look back to

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Speaker 1: I think Sean McVay has been creative enough. I'm very

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Speaker 3: It's actually scared for that division, James, when you consider

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Speaker 1: Oh, how creative. To John McVeigh at, that's like music

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Speaker 1: to everyone's ears. It loves football, and everybody who loves

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Speaker 1: football loves Judy Batist.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna come down and break down the Daniel hacketball

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Speaker 2: coming up?

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Speaker 1: That's Jets Broncos next on the NFL report.

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Speaker 2: Who's got the most pressure on them? Judy will tell us.

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Speaker 8: It made me feel bad that someone who's accomplished a

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Speaker 2: That's Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: If you remember from training camp talking about the comments

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Speaker 1: by Judy Bautista. Judy, I know you and I during

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Speaker 1: So much juice for Week five and then the Aaron

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Speaker 2: Where are we right now? Does this game still have steen?

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Speaker 9: I texted somebody in the Jets organization. I said, like,

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Speaker 9: I look forward to Aaron's five hundred yard five touchdown

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Speaker 9: He did say that he has not had any contact

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Speaker 9: actually I thought, you know, he and Zach Wilson and

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Speaker 10: So hope for the future.

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Speaker 4: Judy.

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Speaker 3: Don't you find it fascinating that when we talk about

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Speaker 9: that is big for them, especially, as you said, against

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Speaker 9: the Broncos defense that has been shredded. This would seemed

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Speaker 9: to be a good week for the Jets to play

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Speaker 9: the Broncos because I think they got Zach Wilson into

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Speaker 9: a little bit of.

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Speaker 10: A groove, right.

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Speaker 9: They figured out what he does well and what he's

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Speaker 9: comfortable with against of all teams, the Chiefs, but they

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Speaker 9: were getting them out of the pocket. They were letting

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Speaker 9: it rip a little bit, you know. Against the Patriots,

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Speaker 9: which was just a dreadful game for the Jets offense, they.

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Speaker 10: Were so conservative.

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Speaker 9: They were playing scared. He was playing scared. I think

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Speaker 9: Hackett was calling a scared game. They were so afraid

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Speaker 9: of making mistakes that they were like constricted, and I

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Speaker 9: think against the Chiefs they said, like, you know what,

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Speaker 9: let's just open it up a little bit, and they

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Speaker 9: got him out of the pocket a little bit.

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Speaker 10: He used his legs. He's a really good athlete, and then.

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Speaker 9: You could see his confidence grow as he was hitting

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Speaker 9: some of these passes against the Chiefs. This s feels

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Speaker 9: to me if you're the Jets, all you want now

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Speaker 9: to see is consistency. You want to see if Zach

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Speaker 9: Wilson can string two games together, because that's been a

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Speaker 9: big problem for him. He's shown flashes, but there hasn't

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Speaker 9: been consistency. So this is a pretty good opponent a

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Speaker 9: team that is struggling to particularly on defense. This is

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Speaker 9: a good opponent for the Jets this week.

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Speaker 1: It certainly is, Judy. I talking to people in the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs organization. They were pretty impressed actually with the way

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hacketts set Zach Wilson up to succeed. One note

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Speaker 1: on the Broncos before we move on to those Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: is being in the facility this week. The Randy Gregory release,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion talking to players, seems to have odos

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Speaker 1: overshadowed this game, Judy tremendously because it almost put players

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Speaker 1: on notice, going this guy got what seventy million dollars

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Speaker 1: last off season and they just up and released him

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Speaker 1: before week five. Oh, this is Sean Payton's team. He

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Speaker 1: didn't bring in Randy Gregory. We're all now on notice

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Speaker 1: in this locker room. That's actually the focus in Denver

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Speaker 1: right now. If you were talking to players with the

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Speaker 1: Broncos now I mentioned the Chiefs. Let's move forward, Judy,

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Speaker 1: because you and I were talking offline going it's almost

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Speaker 1: like the defending Super Bowl champs are flying under the

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Speaker 1: radar through the first portion of this season, and there's

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Speaker 1: a bit of an issue going on with the passing game,

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Speaker 1: a lot of new pieces around Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: He blames himself. It's not on Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 10: It's not on Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 9: But first of all, let me back up and let's

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Speaker 9: be candid about what I said to you when you said,

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Speaker 9: let's talk about the struggles of the Chiefs offense. And

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Speaker 9: I was just like, seriously, like I live in New

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Speaker 9: York with the Jets and Giants, like Jets and Gicks

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Speaker 9: fans would kill to have these problems right now. It's

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Speaker 9: not Patrick mahomes fault. I appreciate fact. It's a perspective.

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Speaker 9: It's all relative people. Of course, he's going to say

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Speaker 9: like he was trying too hard. He did make some

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Speaker 9: ill advised passes against the Jets. The Jets have a

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Speaker 9: really good defense or really really good secondary. He made

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Speaker 9: two passes that you certainly should not have made have

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Speaker 9: led to the interceptions. It's not him, they're trying to

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Speaker 9: integrate new receivers, young receivers, and you know, it.

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Speaker 10: Takes a while.

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Speaker 9: I believe they lead the league and drop percentage, which

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Speaker 9: is obviously not where you want to be. But again,

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Speaker 9: we're only coming into a week five now, and I

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Speaker 9: think if you look around the league, you see teams

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Speaker 9: using the games in September as an extension of like

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Speaker 9: training camp and preseason to like evaluate themselves, figure out

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Speaker 9: what they've got to, figure out what they do well,

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Speaker 9: what they don't do well, get that out of the playbook, and.

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Speaker 10: Then you go forward.

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Speaker 9: And I mean, I certainly would not worry about about

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Speaker 9: the Chiefs. It's September and they're three and one. I

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Speaker 9: was at the Eagles game last week and the same thing.

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Speaker 9: They finally had a good passing performance. But going into

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Speaker 9: that game, all of Philadelphia was like, you know, what's

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Speaker 9: wrong with Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 4: Well, nothing's wrong with Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be fine. They're just working their way

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Speaker 9: into the season. As long as you are still winning

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Speaker 9: games while you're figuring things out, and in the Chiefs case,

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Speaker 9: while you're incorporating young receivers, it's fine, Like get back

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Speaker 9: to me in December if they're still not being productive.

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Speaker 9: And the key thing I think also is is Cadarius

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Speaker 9: Tony going to get healthy and assert himself as the

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Speaker 9: number one receiver there? Because that's, you know, probably what

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Speaker 9: you would expect or would have hoped to have happened

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Speaker 9: by now, and it hasn't happened. Giants fans could probably

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Speaker 9: have a few things to say about that as well.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, James, you cover the Chiefs a lot. Do you

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Speaker 3: see Andy Reid? I know that Patrick Mahomes loves to

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Speaker 3: sling the ball, they love to play backyard football, him

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Speaker 3: and Travis Kelcey. But is there a way to help

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Speaker 3: this offense out by getting Isaiah Pacheco a little bit

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Speaker 3: more involved in this offense?

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Speaker 4: Do you see that happening as we move along.

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Speaker 3: And they start getting a feel for some of their

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Speaker 3: personnel in the absence of guys like Tyreek Hill on

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Speaker 3: this roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean having the running game actually perform well

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Speaker 1: in and Andy Reid offense is Judy almost a luxury, right,

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Speaker 1: It's something that you go, oh, wow, we can run

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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit of right, that'll help us

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Speaker 1: out as we go through some of these growing pains

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Speaker 1: when I talk to people in the building.

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Speaker 2: Jane, You're right, it is this.

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Speaker 1: They're been shooting themselves in the foot too many penalties,

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Speaker 1: hurting themselves and moving backwards repeatedly as an offense, and

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Speaker 1: then really just not being on the same page in

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Speaker 1: terms of timing and all those things. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony as their number one team, missed all of camp,

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Speaker 1: He missed all of preseason, as Judy mentioned, getting healthy

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Speaker 1: with the toe, and then you have Sky Moore.

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Speaker 2: They thought he'd take a jump, he hasn't yet.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that we always see

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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs as we wrap this up, is they

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Speaker 1: get better as the season goes on, and it happens

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Speaker 1: usually on the defensive side of the ball, Judy, and

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Speaker 1: I think this year it might be happening on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball where they hit their stride

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Speaker 1: as the season moves on and continue. Speaking of moving on, Judy,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time. As always, we need to move on

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Speaker 1: because we have an international game coming up on Sunday, Jane,

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Speaker 1: do you know what it is. It's NFL Action with

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Bills live on NFL Network on

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Speaker 1: October eighth at nine to thirty am, also streaming on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network with NFL Plus. Sign up today at plus

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Speaker 1: dot nfl dot com. Terms and conditions do apply. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of over season the Jaguars, here's Richard Graves, my good

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Speaker 1: buddy over there in London.

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Speaker 11: The Jags of being in London for a week now

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Speaker 11: having beaten the Atlanta Falcons at Wembley on Sunday, and

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Speaker 11: some of the players of us that time available to

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Speaker 11: the start of the weeks go into the city and

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Speaker 11: see some of the sites here. But the coaching staff

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Speaker 11: have been at pains to point out that players are

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Speaker 11: creatures of habit and to that end they've tried to

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Speaker 11: keep the schedule and daily routine as close to the

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Speaker 11: norm as possible. Some good news for the Jacks to

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Speaker 11: come out of practice today in the open portion of

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Speaker 11: aaible to the media. Both wide receivers Zay Jones and

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Speaker 11: Jamal Agnew were present. As for the Buffalo Bills, where

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Speaker 11: they've got some concerns over the fitness of past Russia

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Speaker 11: Greg Rousseau, who's dealing with a sore futz for von

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Speaker 11: Miller as he tries to work his way back from

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Speaker 11: an aclchair. It's a softly, softly approach and for head

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Speaker 11: coach Sean mcdermotson quarterback Josh Allen, they've both admitted that

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Speaker 11: this weekend is something of a venture into the unknown.

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Speaker 11: Neither have ever been to the UK, Sean mcdermots, in fact,

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Speaker 11: calling himself a homebody, and to that end, they're both

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Speaker 11: relying heavily on the sports science stuff to see them

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Speaker 11: through this weekend as they prepare to fly into London

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Speaker 11: due to arrive here on Friday morning.

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Speaker 1: I miss seeing Richard Graves every time I go overseas,

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Speaker 1: but you get to see j Acosta Rouiz right now,

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Speaker 1: who's going to spend a lot of time overseas on

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Speaker 1: being told, I believe right, MJ. As we continue our

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Speaker 1: international binge here in the middle of this NFL season,

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Speaker 1: if you could just kind of break down what's happening

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Speaker 1: not just in London, but some other places that we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen NFL games and we might be seeing NFL games.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, there's a big, big push, as you guys know,

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Speaker 12: to really grow the game outside of the US. We've

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Speaker 12: seen so much growth in London over the past decade

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Speaker 12: plus Mexico of course, we've seen those games there in

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Speaker 12: Estadia stick on now Germany, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 12: buzz going into Spain and Brazil as well. So our

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Speaker 12: whole NFL international team really making a big push because

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Speaker 12: they're responding to the demand for it in those countries.

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Speaker 12: So that's an exciting part things that we could see

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Speaker 12: in just a couple of years. I think, guys that

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Speaker 12: we should call dibbs now for the Brazil and the

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Speaker 12: Speaking games.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, oh over it.

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Speaker 3: What are you being told right now about? Just we

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Speaker 3: saw how exciting the German Games were last year. Obviously

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Speaker 3: the games will be in Frankfurt this year. The London

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Speaker 3: Games have had such an impressive showing. What do you

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Speaker 3: think the appetite is going to be for it this

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Speaker 3: year coming off of such a big year last year

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Speaker 3: and we sent all the crews over there.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think last year it was sort of the

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Speaker 12: litmus test, right, all right, let's see how much more

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Speaker 12: we've really expanded into a country like Germany right where

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Speaker 12: soccer to US football to them is really the main

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Speaker 12: driver there. And I think what we saw with ticket

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Speaker 12: sales going within minutes, just the amount of people in

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Speaker 12: the queue trying to buy these tickets. It just showed

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Speaker 12: how much of an appetite there really is for these

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Speaker 12: games all throughout the European countries there. So I think

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Speaker 12: that now this year, I think we'll even see more

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Speaker 12: American fans go over there, because who doesn't want to

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Speaker 12: plan a trip around their favorite NFL team, right? I

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Speaker 12: would say say, less, we're going to Frankfurt.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 12: I got to see Dolphins over there. We're going over there.

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Speaker 12: The Chiefs are going to be there. I mean, it's

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Speaker 12: just an incredible opportunity, not just for the fans overseas,

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Speaker 12: but for the US fans to experience their teams in

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Speaker 12: a completely different way.

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Speaker 1: I was just in Frankfort this summer. I thought about

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Speaker 1: staying through this first Frankfort game. I tried to swing

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Speaker 1: it somehow, but it didn't really happen.

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Speaker 2: Blackout date, it's James real, I know, right, real quick?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this matchup coming up Sunday,

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Speaker 1: specifically here in London?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I love this Jaguars and Bills game

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Speaker 12: that we heard Richard Graves talk about it. The Jaguars

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Speaker 12: have been there since Week four. That is a massive

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Speaker 12: advantage that cannot be discounted because that jet lag, as

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Speaker 12: you guys know, is a very very real thing. Plus,

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Speaker 12: the Jaguars have this momentum coming off of this dominant

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Speaker 12: win twenty three to seven over the Falcons. But the

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Speaker 12: Bills are not the Falcons. Okay, this is a completely

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Speaker 12: different team. And really the flight from New York to

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Speaker 12: London is what about five hours. That's the same as

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Speaker 12: coming from the West coast all the way to the

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Speaker 12: East coast. So not an easy trip for sure, but

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Speaker 12: certainly doable and one that the Bills aren't going to

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Speaker 12: be that dissimilar with the Jaguars. Do have a lot

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Speaker 12: of teams. And what I love about the Jaguars and

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Speaker 12: what I saw last week, it really seems like their

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Speaker 12: offense is clicking. Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, Calvin Ridley, all

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Speaker 12: of those guys really getting involved in everything that's going

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Speaker 12: on offensively there. And then of course the Josh Allen Bowl.

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Speaker 12: Who doesn't love that to Josh Allen's in one game

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Speaker 12: and the last time they had each other's number.

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Speaker 2: Very excited.

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Speaker 1: I think it was my favorite play of last year

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. I think it was like my favorite

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Speaker 1: part that was phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: MJ.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It was great to see you enjoy

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Speaker 1: all your international travel. If you need a companion, Jane

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Speaker 1: and I are available. Just let us know if you

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Speaker 1: need some assistance overseas.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. I'm Jason.

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Speaker 4: Report.

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Speaker 2: We have passports already.

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Speaker 1: We have Pat Hamilton, longtime quarterback coach and offensive quarter

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, breaking down some of the things that

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Speaker 1: he's seen at the quarterback position that have adapted been

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Speaker 1: changed over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: This is fascinating. Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: We welcome back to the NFL Report James Palmer alongside

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Speaker 1: Jane Slater filling in for Steve Whitch and I have

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Speaker 1: been excited about this next segment all day long. Pep Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: long time NFL offensive coordinator and quarterback coach, with Pep talk.

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of corny, Pep, but I kind

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Speaker 1: of dig it actually. At the same time, I'm curious

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Speaker 1: about our conversation and I want you to elaborate on

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Speaker 1: it that we had yesterday about the evolution of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback spot. What you're seeing in how this position maybe

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Speaker 1: is thought of now as opposed to a little while ago,

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Speaker 1: and how it's being played as opposed to a little

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Speaker 1: while ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point.

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Speaker 13: I think we're in the midst of a transition of

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Speaker 13: sorts with the quarterback position. Now we're still i think

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Speaker 13: as a league, we're searching for the identity of what

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Speaker 13: winning quarterback play looks like. And you know, we often

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Speaker 13: talk about the National Football League being a copycat league,

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Speaker 13: being somewhat trend driven, and that seems to be the

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Speaker 13: case right now, not just from a schematic standpoint, but

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Speaker 13: even from the standpoint of how we look at, evaluate

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Speaker 13: and actually install game plans for the quarterback position. You know,

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Speaker 13: there's been a change. You know, you think back over

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Speaker 13: recent years. In the last ten years, for sure, you've

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Speaker 13: had Rady's, the Drew Brees, the pocket style passers, and

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Speaker 13: we've done everything that we could to make sure from

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Speaker 13: a scheme standpoint, I'm talking from a coaching standpoint, that

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Speaker 13: we protect that quarterback, that we limit and pretty much

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Speaker 13: eliminate any chances of that quarterback getting hit. But organically,

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Speaker 13: the talent pool has changed and we have a different

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Speaker 13: style of quarterback in the talent pool because of what

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Speaker 13: what what types of offensive systems they're using.

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Speaker 2: College football but I think.

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Speaker 13: More importantly it's changed, and it's changed because of just

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Speaker 13: Pat Mahomes and the success that he's had. Everybody wants

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Speaker 13: a quarterback that can improvise, that's a playmaker, that can

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Speaker 13: run around and and just have fun with the football.

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Speaker 13: Well there's a problem when you play the game that way.

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Speaker 13: There's only one Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: And we often talk about.

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Speaker 13: In coaches meetings, right, the plan for the quarterback is

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Speaker 13: just as just as important as the skill set of

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Speaker 13: that quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But Pat Mahomes, he came.

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Speaker 13: Into a situation to where it was really a perfect storm.

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Speaker 13: It was a playoff team in Kansas City, all right

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Speaker 13: when he started playing. You know, when he became the starter,

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Speaker 13: not only did they have a really good football team,

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Speaker 13: but they you know, they have one arguably one of

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Speaker 13: the best offensive minds that ever coached the game. So,

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Speaker 13: you know, Coach Reid did a great job of making

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Speaker 13: sure that he you know, he put Pat Mahomes in

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Speaker 13: a position to not have to overthink things and he

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Speaker 13: was able to play offense.

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Speaker 2: Stats. But let's talk about the facts.

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Speaker 13: Okay, something that was alarming last year, right, you see

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Speaker 13: Pat Mahomes there, But something that was alarming last year

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Speaker 13: was the fact that we had an NFL record of

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Speaker 13: sixty four starting quarterbacks over the course.

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Speaker 2: Of the twenty twenty two season.

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Speaker 13: So why did that happen? And how does that happen? Well,

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Speaker 13: it happens as a result of attrition, you know, unlike

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Speaker 13: Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes has uncanny pocket awareness, all right,

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Speaker 13: his vision in the pocket, as well as his athletic

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Speaker 13: ability and the ability to extend plays and solve problems

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Speaker 13: with his legs. It's something that we've never seen in

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Speaker 13: the National Football League. He's a combination of Fran targeting

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Speaker 13: and arguably, you know, some of the best passes to

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Speaker 13: ever played in the league. You know, Dan Marino type.

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Speaker 13: He can make every throw that you can imagine. All right,

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Speaker 13: but let's talk about it. Sixty four quarterbacks played last season,

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Speaker 13: all right, and so why does that happen?

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Speaker 2: I'll say it again.

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Speaker 13: First off, the defenses are so much more athletic than

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Speaker 13: they were twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: All Right.

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Speaker 13: You talked a lot about the potential of Von Miller

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Speaker 13: playing this week, and then we have the Aaron Donalds.

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Speaker 13: These are undersized guys, you know, relative to you know,

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Speaker 13: just the position historically, I'm talking about the positions that

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Speaker 13: they played. But what happens now is the defense is

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Speaker 13: fielding eleven guys that can outrun your quarterback. So that

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Speaker 13: makes the game just a big difference where now the

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Speaker 13: quarterback is not thrown from the spot. But I got

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Speaker 13: a couple more points that I want to make. Let

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Speaker 13: me check my notepad and then we can scrimmage a

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Speaker 13: little bit. Okay, all right, sacks per game is on

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Speaker 13: the rise, all right? And why sacks per game on

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Speaker 13: the rise, Well, we have a lot of inexperienced quarterbacks

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Speaker 13: plan Okay, we have guys that they don't have the

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Speaker 13: pocket experience, they don't have the progression experience. And you

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Speaker 13: know something that we can't coach. I don't care how

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Speaker 13: good you are. You can't teach and coach experience. All Right,

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Speaker 13: it takes time, right, all right? Next point, I want

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Speaker 13: to make nine hundred and eighty seven scramble plays.

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Speaker 2: That's unheard of. So from a coaching standpoint, that means.

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Speaker 13: That a lot of times the play that I'm calling

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Speaker 13: in the schedule in which we expect the play.

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Speaker 2: To evolve, it's just not happening.

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Speaker 13: And part of it is the defensive front, the pass rush,

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Speaker 13: the pressures, some of the designer defenses that we're seeing.

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Speaker 13: But a big part of it is also the quarterbacks

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Speaker 13: instinctively now because we have more mobile quarterbacks plan they're saying, Okay,

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Speaker 13: I'm gonna go through my first read and you know what,

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Speaker 13: damn the second read, take off and just scramble and

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Speaker 13: try and make a play.

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Speaker 2: Right, Let's make it fun a bit, right, And.

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Speaker 13: That makes it a bit of a challenge sometime to

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Speaker 13: protect him because you don't know where he's going to

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Speaker 13: be or where you should expect him to be with

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Speaker 13: regards to where he is in the pocket. All right,

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Speaker 13: last thing and last point that I want to make,

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Speaker 13: and then let's let's let's scrimmage. As I mentioned, all right,

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Speaker 13: thirty percent, all right, that number QB carries up thirty

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Speaker 13: percent since twenty twenty. All right, since twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 13: we're talking about a lot of plays are being called

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Speaker 13: where it's expected that the quarterback is going to run

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Speaker 13: the ball. But you know what else is going to happen.

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Speaker 13: The quarterback is going to get some hot leather in

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Speaker 13: his face. You know he's going to get hit, all right, Right,

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Speaker 13: and we know that's the reason, right, A plus B

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Speaker 13: equill see that algorithm. Everybody's got to go back and

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Speaker 13: look at Okay, what does winning quarterback look like? All right,

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Speaker 13: how's it going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Right? Well, getting your quarterback hit? All right?

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Speaker 13: That attrition we talked about may mean at times that

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Speaker 13: your quarterback won't won't be available, and that's a different issue,

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Speaker 13: all right. And I was talking with Jane and we

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Speaker 13: talked about this a bit. You know, we're talking about

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Speaker 13: the Cowboys, all right.

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Speaker 2: At some point, just.

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Speaker 13: The way things are trending, it may make more sense

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Speaker 13: to start to de emphasize the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: Now, you can't win without a good quarterback.

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Speaker 13: You can't win without a quarterback that can function from

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Speaker 13: the pocket in obvious passing situations.

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Speaker 2: All right, you can't win that way. We understand that.

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Speaker 13: But I think it's going to cycle back to Okay,

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Speaker 13: the fantasy owners aren't going to like the fact that

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Speaker 13: you're going to hand the ball off just a little

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Speaker 13: more on first and second down, right, to make sure

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Speaker 13: that you stay out of third in obvious passing situations, right,

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Speaker 13: third in law? Right, Okay, you look at the teams

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Speaker 13: that are winning, Okay, you look at the San Francisco

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Speaker 13: forty nine ers. They call more runs on first and second.

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Speaker 2: Down than any other team in the league. Right.

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Speaker 13: You look at what coach McCarthy's doing down in Dallas

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Speaker 13: with Dak Dak is handing the ball off and then

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Speaker 13: retracting the ball on play action passes, and he's somewhat

834
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Speaker 13: very efficient right now.

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Speaker 2: Right, he's playing good football. They're winning.

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Speaker 13: They're playing winning football, right even with Tua in Miami

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Speaker 13: a couple weeks back against the Denver Broncos defense. All right, right,

838
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Speaker 13: they ran the ball very well, Okay, and and Tua

839
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Speaker 13: was able to get the ball out when his back

840
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Speaker 13: foot hit the ground. That wasn't the case against Buffalo.

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Speaker 13: But my point is we may have to emphasize the

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Speaker 13: quarterback position more importantly. We do not want our quarterbacks

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Speaker 13: to get hit. Said, Hut, you're turned on.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but real quick, it's been that ted talk before it.

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Speaker 6: Let you go.

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Speaker 4: How much of this is just the poor play of

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Speaker 4: the offensive line too? Though?

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Speaker 3: I mean, are you having to limit what your quarterback

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Speaker 3: is doing because we're not seeing the best offensive line

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Speaker 3: play right now?

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Speaker 4: Or healthy offensive line?

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Speaker 2: Meant well?

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Speaker 13: Two point five seconds should be the maximum amount of

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Speaker 13: time that the quarterback is holding the ball in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: That's not the.

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Speaker 13: Offensive line's fault that the quarterback is dropping back, checking one, two, three, scrambling,

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Speaker 13: and sometimes when they scramble, they get caught. So it's

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Speaker 13: a quarterback's job to nowhere to go with the ball

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Speaker 13: and to play on schedule.

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Speaker 1: The thing that I was sent, that we were sent

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Speaker 1: during this PEP that blew my mind from our research department.

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Speaker 1: Look at this seven and eighty six quarterback hits through

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Speaker 1: the first four weeks. That's the most in the history

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Speaker 1: of the NFL in terms of quarterback hits through the

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Speaker 1: first four weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's remarkable. So your point driven home tremendously.

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Speaker 2: PEP talk. I actually just kind of leaned back during this.

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Speaker 1: PEP and just kind of like soaked it all in,

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Speaker 1: Like it was like it was like a class that

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Speaker 1: I was just in.

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Speaker 2: PEP.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure taking notes.

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Speaker 2: It's a show. With that show, you know, let's do.

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Speaker 1: It it man, can't wait to have you back on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: Buddy, appreciate it, Thank you. All right.

877
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Speaker 1: Coming up on the NFL Report, we got Baldy breaking

878
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: things down. Is Christian McCaffrey the perfect fit for Kyle

879
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: Shanahan's offense.

880
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: Baldy's gonna break that down, plus the red zone issues.

881
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: For the Cowboys in this big one. More NFL Report

882
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: coming up. Welcome back to the NFL Report. James Palmer,

883
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Jane Slater filling in for Steve Wisch. And this is

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Speaker 1: my favorite segment every Thursday. It's Baldy's favorite films and

885
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Baldy before we go, favorite movie? What is your favorite

886
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: film of all time?

887
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 7: Summer nineteen seventy five, probably before you and Jane were born,

888
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: Jaws came out. It was that movie. It's still I

889
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 7: don't know how many times I've seen it, you know,

890
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 7: fifty hundred. I can literally recite that movie line by line.

891
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 7: My favorite movie that the story never gets old.

892
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: No, it's the perfect film, broad it's the perfect film.

893
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: I actually did quince monologue. I did Quinn's monologue in

894
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: high school acting class.

895
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: I did. I swear the entire thing of the entire thing.

896
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: We'll do it another time, but listen, let's let's move

897
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: on to actually your your your real favorite films, which

898
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: is football, let's be honest. And Christian McCaffrey and how

899
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: he operates in this Kyle Shanahan offense. It was interesting

900
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: that that now the fort nine Ers, it feels like

901
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: his teammates bad. You are figuring out that he's not

902
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: just this piece that can be in the passing game,

903
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: that can be out in space, that he can be

904
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: a power runner between the tackles as well.

905
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: He can do it all in this offense.

906
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 7: He can, and he's done it really since he first

907
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 7: got there. I mean eleven days after the trade from

908
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 7: Carolina last year. I mean I remember against the Rams,

909
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 7: he was just a safety. Valt right here. I mean, well,

910
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 7: this play last week is ridiculous. I mean, there's one

911
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 7: guy to beat, cat trev Hart. He jumps right over

912
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 7: the top of him right there. But you know, you

913
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 7: mentioned between the tackles, like he's gonna you know, he's

914
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 7: like he's like running water. He's just gonna find the

915
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 7: opening wherever that is of that And that's how he moves.

916
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 7: He moves like he's just running water and he's just

917
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 7: hit his vision.

918
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 10: He just never misses. And when there's his man to

919
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 10: beat where he can only block.

920
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 7: So many, he'll make his man mate. And even right here,

921
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 7: like he's the backside of this three receiver route and

922
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 7: if they don't like it front side, they comes to

923
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 7: the Texas route on the backside. He's the perfect compliment

924
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 7: to how they space things in their screen game, how

925
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 7: they space things in the passing game.

926
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 10: He's literally the perfect fit.

927
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 7: But to your point, James, one of the reasons why

928
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 7: is because his ability to run it and pound it

929
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 7: between the tackles like he did at Stanford, and then

930
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 7: to get out there on the edge behind Trent Williams

931
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Speaker 7: or you know, you know, pick a player out there,

932
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 7: Debo or Kittle, whoever it might be, like, he's excellent

933
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 7: at setting his blockers up.

934
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: M you know, it's fascinating.

935
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: I was just looking at the entry report as look

936
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Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball in the offense

937
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. You know, when they drafted Tyler Smith,

938
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: they were hoping that he'd be part of the best

939
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: starting five. And I think it's been over two thousand

940
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: snaps between the preseason and the regular season of the postseason,

941
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Speaker 3: we've never seen all five of those guys out there

942
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: ahead of this one, Baldy. It looks like Zach Martin

943
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: and Tyron Smith are gonna be good to go. They

944
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 3: had full participation today, so it's looking very very optimistic.

945
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: Can it help the red zone?

946
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: Because last week, watching this game, I'm seeing the Cowboys

947
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: drive the ball down the field numerous times. We're talking

948
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: ten play drives. And then on that first drive of

949
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: the game, I see them go three times to the Titans,

950
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: and then you and I were joking about this. You

951
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: hands it off to Tony Pollard once trying to go right,

952
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: the others trying to go left, and they settle for

953
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: a field goal.

954
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: Should we be concerned about these.

955
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 3: Red zone woes? Well, getting their best starting five help them.

956
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of there. I need you

957
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: to talk me down. I need a little therapy as

958
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: related to I just don't know what to make of them.

959
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 7: I mean, just look from at least standpoint, Buffalo and

960
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 7: Dallas have the most red zone appearances through the first

961
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 7: month of the season. They've both been their nineteen times.

962
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 7: But just to give you some clarity here, Buffalo scored

963
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 7: thirteen touchdowns. The Cowboys just scored seven. I mean, the

964
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 7: red zone has been the dead zone for the Dallas Cowboys.

965
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 7: And if you're not anihacle about your red zone offense,

966
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 7: you're not looking at it the right way, and so

967
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 7: it's a timing issue right now. It's an execution issue issue,

968
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 7: it's the type of plays they're running. I think all

969
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 7: those things are factored. But look, you saw the game

970
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 7: against Arizona. They got down their four straight series in

971
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 7: a row. In the second half, they kicked two field goals.

972
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 7: That's all they got was they got six thicking points

973
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 7: against Arizona.

974
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 10: They lose the game. They had problems last week.

975
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 7: I mean, they put up thirty eight defense, scored two touchdowns,

976
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 7: but they were bad last week. There's Dawn Bentley jumping

977
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 7: right part of a Dak Prescott. You know, they they're

978
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 7: under pressure. So you know, we've seen three backup linemen

979
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 7: against Arizona. We saw a backup left tackle last week.

980
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 7: To get their five in there. You would hope that

981
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 7: the production will get better, Jane, with their best players

982
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 7: up front out there.

983
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: Boy, I'm curious real quick. It would the even just

984
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: the threat of.

985
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Dak using his legs change things for them in the

986
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: red zone.

987
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 10: It can on certain plays.

988
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 7: You know, if you look at Lamar Jackson right now

989
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 7: and what he's doing in the red zone.

990
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 10: He ran for two touchdowns last week.

991
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 7: Now not comparing Dak to Lamar, but if you look

992
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 7: at what's going on around the league, and I know

993
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 7: you just had pet Bond, I mean quarterbacks are running.

994
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 7: I mean Justin Herbert this year has already run for

995
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 7: three touchdowns like he didn't run for one last year.

996
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 7: So I think anytime you put the quarterback in a

997
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 7: position where you have to account for him, whether you

998
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 7: know you're at the eighteen yard line or the eight

999
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 7: yard line or the four, anytime you have to account

1000
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 7: for the quarterback as a runner, I do believe it makes.

1001
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 10: Your offense more difficult to defend.

1002
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, bubbah, Jane, do it, Jane, do it?

1003
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1004
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: Well, Buffalo, I'm just curious. We've got bills, Yeah, bills

1005
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: this weekend. What's standing out in film for you?

1006
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 10: You know right now?

1007
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 7: You know they made a change obviously, leslid Fraser stepped

1008
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 7: away and Sean McDermott took over the play calling. It's impeccable,

1009
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 7: and they have a lot of new faces in there.

1010
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 7: You Cultradavius White get hurt last week, Dane Jackson comes in.

1011
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 7: Terrelbinard is a huge upgrade to me over Tremaine Edmunds.

1012
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 7: Because of his speed and playmaking ability. But they lead

1013
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 7: the league in sacks, they lead the league in interceptions

1014
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 7: right now, and you watch him against Miami Jane like

1015
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 7: they stretch you because of their speed sideline to sideline,

1016
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 7: and if you try to take deep shots their zone

1017
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 7: and they're a zone team, they just expand vertically and

1018
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 7: you can't get the ball over their head. And so

1019
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 7: as TWOA tries to hold it, he doesn't here. But

1020
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 7: you see, you know, Panessa get in the passing lane

1021
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 7: right there. But they couldn't get the ball down the

1022
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 7: field over Buffalo's heads. The safety just kept backing up,

1023
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 7: kept everything in front of him, and the longer two

1024
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 7: held it, the better the chance to rush. Whether it's

1025
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 7: Zusso or Floyd or at Oliver, these guys were getting

1026
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 7: too toa and disrupting things.

1027
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 10: That stands out.

1028
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 7: And I think that the addition of the two guards

1029
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 7: Connor McGovern from Dallas and drafting Osiris Torrens, they're much

1030
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 7: better inside than they ever were last year, and they're

1031
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 7: running the ball much better, and they're protecting Josh much

1032
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 7: better up front.

1033
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: It'd be nice badly if they could be part of

1034
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: that group right that has deep defensive lines like we've

1035
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: seen with the Niners and Philly and teams like that,

1036
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: be a great addition for this Buffalo Bill's team up

1037
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: front and the front seven.

1038
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: You would also hold your own at a table on.

1039
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: The Orca with Robert Shaw, with Richard Dreyfuss, just talking

1040
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: about war wounds, Baldy, You'd be.

1041
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: All over that.

1042
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: You'd be all over that, just sitting there going scar

1043
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: for scar with these guys.

1044
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 7: I can find it for five thousand, but I can

1045
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 7: capture them and kill him for ten.

1046
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 10: I mean, we'll go line for line. I'll go right

1047
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 10: down there and talk about the us SS.

1048
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 7: Indianapolis and how many men went to the water, how

1049
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 7: many men came out and the sharks got the rest.

1050
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 8: I got it.

1051
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like you know we can. I could you guys

1052
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 7: see him one tape, just like Robert Shaw. Give me

1053
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 7: a couple of beers, James. I'll do it in one tape,

1054
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 7: just like Robert Shaw did.

1055
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: I'll get a play. I'll go on a plane for that.

1056
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: I'll never put life. Check it on again. Love it,

1057
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: love it, Baldi. Appreciate see you next Thursday. Man.

1058
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 10: You got it, James, James, you bet coming up.

1059
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: With the NFL reporters.

1060
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: We finished this off. What three and one team do

1061
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: you have faith in? What one in three team do

1062
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: you have faith in?

1063
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: Interesting? Come back a little bit bore.

1064
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: Well, we're wrapping this thing up, Jane, you and I.

1065
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: How about a three and one team that sits right

1066
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: now that will not make the postseason.

1067
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: Ooh, I'm struggling with this one. I'm struggling with this one.

1068
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: Why don't you go ahead and give me a three

1069
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: to one team that won't make the playoffs.

1070
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 4: Let's go the Bucks.

1071
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, the Bucks. I'm gonna go with the Seattle Seahawks.

1072
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Just too tough of a division. I think that might

1073
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: plan to an account here in Seattle. How About a

1074
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: one in three team that will make the postseason?

1075
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: Go?

1076
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 4: I gotta think the Bengals turn this one around, James.

1077
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: I know it's a tough division. I know that.

1078
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: I think it's what fourteen percent of teams that start

1079
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: one in three make the playoffs.

1080
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 4: But give me the Bengals to turn this one around.

1081
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: I like the pick of the Bengals. I'm gonna go with.

1082
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: How about the Minnesota Vikings, a playoff team here a

1083
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: year ago won a lot of one score games. I

1084
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: think maybe they can turn around late in this season

1085
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins and Kevin O'Connell. Jane, thank you so

1086
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: much for stopping by filling in for Steve, which it

1087
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: just felt more comfortable.

1088
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie more.

1089
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: NFL report coming up on Monday, after Week five games,

1090
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Steve will be back.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a blastop